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| 01:00.57 | Zelut | man, primary results on nearly every channel |
| 01:01.07 | mheath | yeah :P |
| 01:01.17 | mheath | Zelut: Are you running hardy? |
| 01:09.14 | Zelut | mheath: not yet |
| 01:09.26 | Zelut | mheath: i've tried a few previous alphas but it was too unstable |
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| 01:52.49 | atoponce | i think it's going to be an obama/mccain race |
| 01:53.59 | Zelut | mccain is a cheater |
| 01:54.50 | atoponce | poor romney. he's getting slaughtered |
| 01:54.58 | atoponce | Zelut: how's that? |
| 01:55.09 | Heartsbane | Poor Romney? |
| 01:55.28 | atoponce | Heartsbane: yeah. he doesn't have a prayer (no pun intended) |
| 01:55.49 | Heartsbane | if you leave the pun in it funnier |
| 01:55.51 | peno | prima-whaty? |
| 01:56.04 | Heartsbane | s/it/it is/ |
| 01:56.14 | Zelut | atoponce: from what i heard there was some vote trading going on |
| 01:56.49 | atoponce | Zelut: orly? |
| 01:56.54 | Zelut | only link i can find at the moment - http://www.peterabowen.com/?p=66 |
| 01:57.18 | Zelut | i was seeing it on the news too just a bit ago. |
| 01:59.06 | atoponce | hmm. interesting |
| 01:59.17 | atoponce | it would be nice if he could back up his story |
| 02:00.18 | Zelut | i'll find some links.. it was on cnn earlier |
| 02:00.55 | Heartsbane | Zelut: I take it you voted from the way you are talking |
| 02:01.21 | Zelut | Heartsbane: i'm out of town and didn't vote. |
| 02:01.52 | Zelut | i have no faith in our election system. our next president has been bought and paid for years ago. |
| 02:02.20 | Heartsbane | oh so who did they buy? |
| 02:02.57 | Zelut | we'll find out ;) |
| 02:03.30 | atoponce | they bought obama |
| 02:03.58 | Zelut | hillary has a lot of money from china i hear.. |
| 02:07.21 | Heartsbane | atoponce: you think so because the entire time that I have been eligable to vote the winning choice have been; Bush, Clinton, Bush... and if I see Clinton again I just don't want to be responsible for my actions |
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| 02:07.34 | atoponce | heh |
| 02:07.54 | atoponce | father son, husband wife |
| 02:07.58 | peno | if clinton is elected, I blame heartsbane. |
| 02:08.48 | Heartsbane | peno: you would |
| 02:09.03 | peno | Heartsbane: just keeping it honest. |
| 02:10.10 | Heartsbane | Clinton gets elected I am kicking you in the knee, just keeping it honest |
| 02:11.04 | peno | do that and I'll have claud talk to you |
| 02:11.37 | Heartsbane | you mean Bob Newhart |
| 02:11.56 | peno | rofl |
| 02:12.34 | Zelut | atoponce: http://www.ajc.com/opinion/content/shared-blogs/ajc/thinkingright/entries/2008/02/05/mccain_gangs_up_on_west_virgin.html |
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| 02:13.27 | Zelut | still looking for other articles |
| 02:16.26 | Zelut | http://thehill.com/campaign-2008/romney-camp-accuses-mccain-huckabee-of-shady-w.-va.-deal-2008-02-05.html |
| 02:16.30 | Zelut | ...you get the idea. |
| 02:16.38 | herlo | ~tinyurl Zelut |
| 02:16.38 | jbot | ACTION runs '/exec tinyurl.sh http://maps.google.com//maps/ms?ie=UTF8&addr=Zelut' and laughs maniacally! |
| 02:18.13 | Zelut | we're having a nasty thunder storm down here tonite. |
| 02:18.27 | herlo | Zelut: where is you? |
| 02:18.35 | Zelut | herlo: houston-town |
| 02:18.45 | herlo | Zelut: ooh, fun |
| 02:19.00 | Zelut | tv is freaking out. must be satellite. |
| 02:19.21 | herlo | woo |
| 02:19.49 | Zelut | i guess i'll go back to reading my book |
| 02:28.05 | peno | have the same thing in Richardson.. |
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| 02:54.24 | atoponce | you know. the more i learn about that w.va thing, the more i think it's just competitive |
| 02:54.39 | atoponce | no rules say he can't tell his own voters to vote for someone else |
| 03:00.53 | atoponce | herlo: what version of moinmoin is the fedora wiki running? |
| 03:01.04 | herlo | old |
| 03:01.24 | herlo | atoponce: don't actually know, but its older than 1.5 whcih is what utosf is running |
| 03:02.30 | findlay | ~update herlo |
| 03:02.46 | herlo | atoponce: probably because moinmoin is such a pita to update |
| 03:03.10 | atoponce | really? why's it so difficult? |
| 03:03.11 | herlo | every time they move to a new version, they change enough to make it not completely compatible with the last |
| 03:03.19 | atoponce | that's lame |
| 03:03.25 | herlo | so little things get dropped |
| 03:03.26 | herlo | yeah |
| 03:03.34 | herlo | tell me about it |
| 03:03.42 | herlo | the transition from 1.5 to 1.6 is better |
| 03:03.51 | herlo | no really bad transitions |
| 03:04.02 | herlo | just nitpicky stuff that can be scripted |
| 03:04.12 | atoponce | so, i'm like really impressed with upstart |
| 03:04.23 | atoponce | i'm surprised we haven't had a solid sysvinit replacement earlier |
| 03:04.24 | herlo | cool |
| 03:04.51 | atoponce | sysvinit may not be "broken", per se, but it certaninly needs updating, just as cron does |
| 03:04.59 | herlo | maybe |
| 03:05.24 | atoponce | i had no idea, but there are a lot of init replacements, not just upstart |
| 03:05.58 | herlo | right, knew that |
| 03:12.14 | Zelut | how can i tell tar to unarchive its files to a specific directory? |
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| 03:33.41 | herlo | -C |
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| 03:43.58 | tgelter | hey all, I've run into a problem that I can figure out |
| 03:44.42 | Zelut | tgelter: good for you |
| 03:45.08 | tgelter | http://pastebin.com/m53018986 |
| 03:45.59 | tgelter | I think I could probably fix it by recreating /lib/modules/2.6.24 but I'm not sure it'd be the same as I had before |
| 03:46.12 | tgelter | is there any easier way to fix dpkg? |
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| 03:52.59 | herlo | reinstall it? |
| 03:55.52 | tgelter | herlo: it was a custom kernel |
| 03:58.34 | herlo | hnnn |
| 03:58.44 | herlo | or hmmm |
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| 04:05.05 | tgelter | got it fixed |
| 04:05.46 | herlo | kewl |
| 04:05.46 | tgelter | tgelter@guapura:~$ sudo update-initramfs -d -k 2.6.24 |
| 04:05.46 | tgelter | tgelter@guapura:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a |
| 04:05.54 | herlo | looks easy enough |
| 04:06.15 | herlo | course finding those commands could be tricky |
| 04:06.39 | herlo | tgelter: how was ur lan party? |
| 04:06.44 | tgelter | a lot of fun |
| 04:06.50 | tgelter | we had classroom #1 completely full |
| 04:07.41 | herlo | wow |
| 04:08.01 | herlo | wish I had come, but was *so* tired |
| 04:08.52 | Heartsbane | what did you play? |
| 04:10.41 | herlo | sleep wars |
| 04:11.04 | Heartsbane | oh |
| 04:11.30 | herlo | hehe, I wasn't there |
| 04:14.11 | tgelter | ah, sorry, I was reading |
| 04:14.56 | tgelter | we played: World of Padman, Armagetron Advanced, MOHAA, Giants, and a couple more that I can't recall right now |
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| 04:15.27 | Heartsbane | people still play Mohaa? |
| 04:15.33 | Heartsbane | j/k |
| 04:15.58 | tgelter | seriously? I love that game |
| 04:15.59 | herlo | hehe |
| 04:16.09 | tgelter | half of us wanted to play the original quake too |
| 04:17.29 | herlo | hehe, should have |
| 04:18.39 | tgelter | well, I've got to study for tomorrow's troubleshooting class |
| 04:18.42 | tgelter | g'night all |
| 04:19.06 | herlo | night |
| 04:59.30 | Yorokobi | yeeaargh |
| 05:11.40 | redbeard2 | what's this tracker indexing thing in ubuntu? |
| 05:11.56 | herlo | redbeard2: torrents! |
| 05:12.20 | redbeard2 | herlo: it seems to be more focused on general file indexing... am i missing something? |
| 05:15.44 | herlo | redbeard2: I just heard tracker |
| 05:15.47 | herlo | and reacted! |
| 05:16.08 | redbeard2 | herlo: yeah, i kind of figured |
| 05:16.26 | herlo | :) |
| 05:22.15 | redbeard2 | herlo: remember old siam? |
| 05:22.58 | herlo | uh, no |
| 05:23.07 | redbeard2 | in sunnyvale |
| 05:23.13 | redbeard2 | it's a thai restaurant |
| 05:24.14 | herlo | oh, right |
| 05:24.21 | herlo | yeah, wht about it? |
| 05:25.09 | redbeard2 | i picked up dinner from there tonight. not quite as good as i remember, but close |
| 05:25.31 | herlo | hmm |
| 05:25.33 | herlo | cool |
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| 15:16.17 | atoponce | Zelut: you know you're not in the guru chat? |
| 15:17.19 | Zelut | atoponce: yeah my bitlbee isn't logged in. i'm not in any chat. |
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| 15:18.14 | atoponce | ok |
| 15:19.39 | atoponce | Yorokobi: what do the *bsds use for their init system? is it sysvinit? |
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| 15:46.26 | Yorokobi | atoponce, sort of |
| 16:08.19 | atoponce | http://acid3.acidtests.org/ |
| 16:09.32 | atoponce | crashes konqueror |
| 16:10.28 | Heartsbane | chokes at 50 for firefox |
| 16:11.24 | sontek | it doesn't even render in ie7 |
| 16:12.17 | atoponce | sontek: and this surprises you? |
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| 16:28.43 | Zelut | 51 for epiphany |
| 16:37.25 | Zelut | man, logwatch is awesome |
| 16:38.40 | atoponce | yes it is. :) |
| 16:39.53 | Zelut | logwatch + denyhosts are new favorite apps |
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| 17:16.26 | mheath | atoponce: crashes konqueror? Wow, thats kind of surprising. |
| 17:19.35 | tonedevf | now if you were to say, 'it crashes nautilus' that would be in no way surprising |
| 17:22.08 | mheath | tonedevf: a properly configured Nautilus wouldn't crash. |
| 17:22.26 | mheath | As Nautilus is a _FILE BROWSER_, it would correctly open that URL in the correct application - Firefox :-) |
| 17:25.21 | tonedevf | uh huh |
| 17:27.21 | tonedevf | that's like, 'a properly configure Windows Explorer...' most people don't realize this fundamental piece of the operating environment IS an app AND that they must learn to properly configure it ; ) |
| 17:31.33 | Kemotaha | tonedevf: IE can be properly configured? |
| 17:31.54 | tonedevf | not IE, Windows Explorer |
| 17:31.59 | tonedevf | and yes, it can |
| 17:32.02 | Kemotaha | Is that just del explorer.exe? |
| 17:32.51 | tonedevf | no no, a much more thorough way would be to use fdisk, but that's another topic |
| 17:32.56 | atoponce | mheath: try it |
| 17:33.15 | Kemotaha | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/windows? |
| 17:40.37 | mheath | atoponce: meh, it doesn't do anything, I guess |
| 17:40.51 | mheath | Just "Couldnt display 'http://acid3.acidtets.org - The location is not a folder" |
| 17:42.30 | atoponce | crashes every time here |
| 17:44.18 | tonedevf | why oh why doth it sucketh so |
| 17:46.32 | atoponce | i thought it was a good browser |
| 17:47.02 | Zelut | what sucketh so? |
| 17:47.18 | atoponce | konqueror |
| 17:47.31 | Zelut | sucketh +1 |
| 17:47.46 | atoponce | i like webkit over gecko |
| 17:48.14 | atoponce | more standards compliant in a smaller footprint |
| 17:48.30 | atoponce | faster too |
| 17:48.31 | Zelut | man why does 1G have to take so long to download on my DSL |
| 17:48.55 | atoponce | cuz you're on dsl? |
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| 17:49.36 | Zelut | why did i have to leave my glorious fiber :( |
| 17:50.35 | atoponce | http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=147959 |
| 17:55.18 | Zelut | how to install 145 os's. actually used? probably 1-2. |
| 17:55.40 | Zelut | or, hey, i can cut down those steps to about 2. |
| 17:55.51 | Zelut | install virtualization solution. install additional os. |
| 17:56.38 | atoponce | http://new.jabber.org |
| 17:57.17 | Zelut | sounds like someone is enjoying his days off :) |
| 17:57.58 | atoponce | that i am |
| 18:02.58 | Hunding | be back later |
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| 18:19.37 | tonedevf | Zelut: did you ask Qwerst about a 5 Mb down / 1Mb up line? |
| 18:21.12 | tonedevf | i've had that service from them for several years now. everytime the promo rate expires, i call them with a threat to leave and they reinstate the promo rate for another year |
| 18:22.03 | tonedevf | this ain't bad, considering fiber will never appear in my neck of the woods. cable is soooo bad. |
| 18:22.15 | tonedevf | ...the bad kind of bad. |
| 18:23.16 | atoponce | is there a good kind of bad? |
| 18:24.13 | tonedevf | there is. for instance, "super bad" |
| 18:24.24 | atoponce | heh |
| 18:25.26 | atoponce | so, i just can't find a good use for helios. and having him just sit powered on, with nothing to do, is a waste |
| 18:25.50 | atoponce | he sucks a good deal of power too |
| 18:33.34 | maquis | ~lart redbeard2 |
| 18:33.34 | jbot | cuts off redbeard2's head with a halberd that could have been a little bit sharper |
| 18:35.14 | mheath | hmm, this is turning out to be the most immensely complex database Ive ever had to create. |
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| 18:53.22 | Zelut | tonedevf: i'm far enough away all i get can is 1.5M/7xx |
| 18:54.30 | tonedevf | bummer |
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| 19:06.16 | Yorokobi | what is the vim command-line argument to tell it to start editing at the bottom of the file? |
| 19:07.35 | Zelut | +# tells it on a line number.. not sure |
| 19:09.19 | Yorokobi | ah, just + will do it |
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| 20:34.19 | Heartsbane | tonedevf: yeah I am on 7mb/1mb line its not bad, but I want my fiber |
| 20:48.58 | tonedevf | we all want fiber, that's why they call it fiber ; ) |
| 20:49.09 | tonedevf | (props to David Mammet) |
| 20:50.05 | tonedevf | Heartsbane: who's your isp? |
| 21:00.01 | Zelut | so ufw in hardy is pretty simple--pretty cool. |
| 21:00.17 | Zelut | sudo ufw default deny; sudo ufw allow 22/tcp. firewall done. |
| 21:32.11 | atoponce | Zelut: ufw is the frontend to netfilter? |
| 21:32.18 | Zelut | yeah |
| 21:32.32 | Zelut | really easy syntax. you don't need to know iptables at all. |
| 21:32.59 | atoponce | does it handle everything? like the nat and magle tables and connection tracking? |
| 21:33.00 | Zelut | sudo ufw allow proto udp 53 192.168.0.254 to any port 53. |
| 21:33.18 | atoponce | what's the package name? is it nufw? |
| 21:33.25 | Zelut | that allows udp connections on 53 to server1 from any --sport 53, for example. |
| 21:33.34 | Zelut | ufw i believe.. probably only available in hardy. |
| 21:33.44 | atoponce | ok. didn't see it in gutsy |
| 21:34.07 | Zelut | sudo ufw allow 22/tcp. - open 22/tcp on any |
| 21:34.26 | Zelut | sudo ufw default allow|deny is similar to iptables -P INPUT drop|accept. |
| 21:34.38 | atoponce | interesting |
| 21:40.00 | Zelut | we've also got selinux testable in permissive mode on the ubuntu-hardened team. |
| 21:40.11 | Zelut | packages available on the hardened ppa |
| 21:58.02 | Yorokobi | heh, that looks a lot like pf syntax |
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| 22:06.15 | Zelut | Yorokobi: it does mention similarities with pf in the man page, yeah |
| 22:07.10 | Heartsbane | tonedevf: xmission |
| 22:08.31 | Yorokobi | yeah, I heard of some effort to make iptables more pf-like; I guess a wrapper is the best way to go since pf isn't easily portable to the Linux kernel. |
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| 22:14.56 | Zelut | will utahns ever vote on anything other than party and religion? |
| 22:15.40 | Yorokobi | heh, I didn't vote for Romney, then again, I'm not a Republican :) |
| 22:16.32 | Zelut | looking at the results he got WAY more than anyone else and i'm sure most of those voters couldn't tell you the first thing about his policies. |
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| 22:17.36 | tapH20guru | from the peaceful shores of ubuntu to the fiery caves of religion and politics |
| 22:18.16 | Gate | fiery *demon ridden* caves. |
| 22:18.19 | Zelut | i'm just getting some out of my system after yesterday.. i'm sure it'll be quiet for some time after. |
| 22:18.58 | Zelut | brb - heading home |
| 22:29.23 | tapH20guru | will launchpad let you search across all ppa's for a certain package? |
| 22:30.16 | tapH20guru | wait - scratch that |
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