00:00.58 | peno | maybe that's the problem, they're a little short on their medicine |
00:01.12 | Heartsbane | You ever noticed that if you google Fun utah county the 3rd thing on the list is The Utah County Jail |
00:01.39 | troseph | hahaha |
00:02.39 | troseph | Inmate Search -- even better |
00:03.01 | peno | but if you google heartsbane+fun+utah+county you get a few results. |
00:03.02 | Heartsbane | :) |
00:03.09 | Heartsbane | Really |
00:03.24 | peno | irc logs ftw |
00:03.57 | Heartsbane | pwn'd by Tim Riker and his bot |
00:04.22 | Heartsbane | ~slap jbot |
00:04.23 | jbot | ACTION slaps jbot, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
00:04.40 | Heartsbane | ~lart jbot. |
00:04.40 | jbot | chops jbot. in half with a free AOL CD |
00:04.53 | bigfox | LOL |
00:05.29 | troseph | haha |
00:06.56 | peno | ugh. lousy mismatched duplex settings. |
00:08.08 | troseph | print? |
00:08.16 | troseph | I worked in a print shop for years. |
00:08.24 | peno | either that or the 1841 can't handle the same throughput as the 2621. |
00:08.30 | troseph | oh lol |
00:09.53 | peno | :) |
00:10.34 | peno | good to know though, tells me which rooter to use whenever Utopia is rolled out to my area. |
00:44.48 | bigfox | Does anybody know how to make Sound Juicer encode MP3 (All codecs are installed.) |
00:45.03 | bigfox | It just won't actually let me select MP3 as an option. |
01:02.59 | bigfox | There appears to be a couple bug reports already. 109849 & 84007 |
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03:27.43 | Heartsbane | FESTIVUS is tomorrow |
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05:46.53 | Zelut | herlo: ping |
06:11.03 | herlo | Zelut: pong |
06:12.06 | herlo | Zelut: quit and come back, you'll enjoy it... :) |
06:17.14 | Heartsbane | Zelut: tomorrow is Festivus |
06:17.39 | herlo | for the rest-of-us |
06:19.30 | herlo | immediately afterward, we must perform our "Feats of Strength" |
06:22.27 | mheath | Evening all |
06:22.47 | mheath | Heartsbane: sorry I didn't catch you earlier, I ended up going to a movie with my fiance |
06:22.57 | Heartsbane | its okay |
06:23.37 | Heartsbane | I kinda got pre-occupied talking to that crackbaby HERLO |
06:23.58 | mheath | Heartsbane: Want me to take a screenshot of my desktop? |
06:24.19 | Heartsbane | Ya I would like to see that |
06:25.36 | mheath | hmm |
06:25.53 | mheath | they always move that around on me |
06:26.05 | mheath | used to require a third party app, then it was integrated with gnome, now I can't find it again |
06:26.39 | Heartsbane | printscreen |
06:27.33 | herlo | only takes a pic of the current window |
06:28.15 | mheath | Heartsbane: no, we want the whole desktop :) |
06:28.57 | Heartsbane | then touch the desktop and hit printscreen, works for me |
06:30.06 | herlo | me too |
06:32.36 | mheath | http://www.mtheath.net/Screenshot.png |
06:32.48 | mheath | Yes, I like the look and feel of Mac OS X somewhat |
06:33.33 | mheath | Heartsbane: It has interactive applets, too. That terminal icon on the right pops open a hovering quick-access terminal window right above the bar |
06:33.57 | mheath | Theres teh CPU applet, the trash applet, clocks, media control, and others |
06:34.39 | mheath | I was going to show a screenshot with the mini-terminal popped open, but I wanted to show off my global menu bar too, and that doesn't show anything there. |
06:34.39 | Zelut | herlo: I was wondering if you know what port 50 |
06:35.00 | Zelut | herlo: ..is used for. I notice it in the default F8 firewall as ACCEPT. |
06:35.26 | mheath | Zelut: "Remote Mail Checking Protocl" |
06:36.01 | Zelut | mheath: I saw that in /etc/services too.. just wondering what it means. |
06:36.13 | Heartsbane | mheath: interesting you have giving me something to think about |
06:36.28 | herlo | Zelut: http://www.auditmypc.com/port/udp-port-50.asp |
06:36.37 | herlo | Zelut: quick google search turned that up |
06:36.50 | mheath | Heartsbane: I really like my global menu bar :) |
06:37.07 | herlo | seems unhelpful though |
06:37.18 | mheath | Only downside is, I had to switch to Epiphany as Firefox doesn't work with it (it's a GTK patch, doesn't effect XUL stuff) |
06:37.49 | mheath | http://www.networksorcery.com/enp/rfc/rfc1339.txt |
06:38.38 | mheath | Apparently, it's a quick mail checker |
06:38.59 | mheath | rather than having to deal with the overhead of POP or IMAP, its a real simple protocol for quickly checking if you have new mail |
06:39.19 | Zelut | interesting. |
06:39.28 | Zelut | ..something I won't use. DELETED |
06:39.34 | mheath | heh |
06:39.35 | mheath | yeah |
06:39.39 | mheath | I'd never heard about it before |
06:39.47 | mheath | Curious that'd be supported in your routers default settings |
06:40.00 | mheath | I wonder if some common bit of Microsoftness makes use of it or something? |
06:40.56 | Zelut | what about 51? I don't see that even in /etc/services |
06:41.38 | mheath | "IMP Logical Address Maintenance"? hmm |
06:41.47 | Heartsbane | Zelut: http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers |
06:42.24 | Zelut | la-maint 51/tcp IMP Logical Address Maintenance |
06:42.25 | Zelut | la-maint 51/udp IMP Logical Address Maintenance |
06:42.29 | Zelut | never heard of it |
06:42.41 | Heartsbane | mheath: I will have to give it a shot on another box |
06:43.08 | mheath | Heartsbane: takes Compiz support, just so you know |
06:43.16 | Heartsbane | Zelut: there are a buncha things in there that are not even common anymore |
06:43.24 | mheath | Zelut: Apparently its some antiquated part of Arpanet? |
06:43.31 | Heartsbane | Zelut: I have never heard of it either |
06:43.44 | mheath | IMP = "Interface Message Processor" I think? |
06:43.53 | mheath | Which is the Arpanet version of a router |
06:43.57 | Zelut | odd. its a default line in the firewall on fedora 8 on the box I'm tinkering with |
06:44.21 | Zelut | I'm actually putting together a "default" firewall for distributing in ubuntu.. trying to cover all the bases |
06:44.24 | peno | 50, 51 are used for vpn these days |
06:44.39 | herlo | ipsec, to be exact |
06:44.46 | Zelut | right now it allows ssh, dns and mdns is all.. |
06:44.59 | mheath | Zelut: thats the thing, you can't go with what a port is 'supposed' to be fore |
06:45.07 | mheath | YOu have to go with what its frequently used for |
06:45.48 | mheath | Zelut: as its been pointed out, I guess 50 and 51 are used by VPN, even though VPN stuff officially has no entitelement to it. |
06:45.56 | mheath | Wait, though... |
06:46.39 | peno | cisco uses 50,51 & 500 commonly for vpn connections. |
06:48.41 | mheath | night, folks. Gotta open tomorrow at 5:30AM :( |
06:49.39 | Zelut | I'm going to bed too, but if there are any suggestions on this: http://pastebin.ca/829528 |
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06:56.51 | Heartsbane | Zelut went to bed before Festivus |
06:57.03 | Heartsbane | :( |
07:02.04 | herlo | Happy Festivus!!! |
07:02.52 | Heartsbane | peno: Festivus is your heritage |
07:04.19 | Heartsbane | Night all |
07:04.34 | herlo | gnight |
07:04.38 | herlo | thanks |
07:05.09 | Heartsbane | Zelut: is that the IPTables for your laptop or your server? |
07:07.33 | peno | Heartsbane: uh. ok. |
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07:23.16 | bigfox | Hay Heartsbane, I am at a night job I do every so often and I have the thin client with me. What is the program to check the temperature? |
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07:27.15 | herlo | conky? |
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07:41.07 | herlo | kkubasik: !!! welcome! |
07:41.24 | kkubasik | herlo: happy holidays! |
07:41.32 | kkubasik | hehe, sorry home to md |
07:41.36 | herlo | kkubasik: are you in Utah still? Or did you go home for holidays |
07:41.39 | herlo | hehe... |
07:41.48 | herlo | hey, np, just thought I'd say hello |
07:41.59 | Heartsbane | bigfox: conky or lmstat(I think) |
07:42.03 | kkubasik | hahaha, yeah its good to see linux didn't disapear |
07:42.06 | Heartsbane | Hey Kevin |
07:42.16 | kkubasik | Heartsbane: hows it going? |
07:42.18 | herlo | kkubasik: like it would... |
07:42.35 | kkubasik | btw, im seeing janx tomorrow |
07:42.40 | Heartsbane | its going alright |
07:42.42 | kkubasik | in dc, it will be funny |
07:43.16 | Heartsbane | kkubasik: when do I get my wua hook up |
07:43.17 | Heartsbane | ??? |
07:43.50 | kkubasik | Heartsbane: wua? |
07:43.50 | bigfox | Heartsbane: got conky installed, but it isn't saying anything about cpu temp. |
07:43.57 | bigfox | how do I configure it? |
07:44.19 | herlo | bigfox: here |
07:44.36 | Heartsbane | bigfox: hold on |
07:45.34 | herlo | http://pastebin.ca/829563 |
07:45.49 | herlo | Heartsbane would be correct, but it is Heartsbane's .conkyrc file |
07:46.19 | Heartsbane | Frack that |
07:46.39 | kkubasik | btw i just finished season 3 of bsg |
07:46.40 | herlo | :^0 |
07:46.45 | herlo | bsg rocks! |
07:46.46 | kkubasik | HOOOZOLLLY FRACK!!!! |
07:46.59 | Heartsbane | kkubasik: do you have the original DVD's? |
07:47.05 | Heartsbane | or just rips? |
07:47.17 | kkubasik | rips on 3 |
07:47.21 | Heartsbane | ah |
07:47.22 | kkubasik | original of 1 and 2 |
07:48.22 | Heartsbane | kkubasik: same here I have originals on 1 & 2, and wua.la/en/home.html that looks pretty slick |
07:48.39 | kkubasik | oooo yeah |
07:48.44 | kkubasik | its soooo oawesome |
07:49.15 | Heartsbane | bigfox: you will need to make some adjustments |
07:49.41 | Heartsbane | to the .conkyrc that is |
07:49.44 | bigfox | Just creating the file now. Machine is a bit on the slow side. |
07:49.49 | Heartsbane | so |
07:49.55 | Heartsbane | :) |
07:51.33 | bigfox | Ok, the file is created. |
07:52.23 | Heartsbane | k hack it to hell of being cut to peices |
07:52.28 | Heartsbane | I am going to bed |
07:52.40 | Heartsbane | and someone get me a part time job like bigfox |
07:52.44 | Heartsbane | night all |
07:53.19 | bigfox | I can probably get you one here. |
07:53.34 | bigfox | Will you pass a background check? |
07:56.38 | bigfox | CPU temp 32F |
07:56.56 | herlo | its freezing? |
07:57.13 | bigfox | Thats the reading it gives. |
07:57.20 | herlo | could be busted |
07:57.27 | bigfox | Its warm to the touch. |
07:57.30 | herlo | or its in C |
07:57.53 | bigfox | It has an F in back of the 32 in back of where it says Temp: |
07:57.56 | herlo | its in the format |
07:58.10 | herlo | Temp: ${acpitempf}F |
07:58.23 | herlo | which probably means its based upon what acpi reports... |
07:58.33 | herlo | and the .conkyrc is just reporting F |
07:58.44 | herlo | even though it would have to be C for it to be semi-accurate |
07:58.53 | bigfox | I doubt this thing knows what its temp is. Its possible that this CPU cannot tell. |
08:06.22 | bigfox | It has no idea what the temp is. I covered the vent for a bit while the processor was being hammered and it hasn't changed from 32 F |
08:06.44 | herlo | haha, yeah, that's probably the default reporting from acpi |
08:08.53 | bigfox | The machine doesn't get very warm. I had to cover its vents for a while to get it to feel hotter to the touch. Even then, it isn't that warm. |
08:09.46 | herlo | mine runs at 158F right now |
08:09.54 | herlo | its a lappy |
08:10.46 | bigfox | Its also a million times faster then this thin client. |
08:11.24 | bigfox | Its a Via low power chip running at 800 MHz |
08:11.56 | herlo | :) yeah for sure |
08:12.17 | bigfox | I was planning on using it as a car computer. |
08:12.31 | bigfox | All solid state makes it perfect. |
08:12.48 | bigfox | It also accepts a 12 volt power supply. |
08:13.25 | bigfox | Only problem I am having now is figuring out where to mount the monitor. |
08:15.52 | herlo | under the radio imo |
08:16.29 | bigfox | I can't find a monitor that small that has a VGA input. |
08:16.59 | herlo | ooh, they are out there, I've used them... |
08:17.07 | herlo | but you could just modify one as well... |
08:18.23 | bigfox | There is also the problem of protecting the monitor from the cold and heat. The computer isn't hard, just put it in the trunk with solar powered fan to keep it aired out. |
08:19.26 | herlo | lcd is *much* more resistant to temperature changes. I recommend this for both size and temp handling among other visual reasons. |
08:19.52 | bigfox | It is? |
08:20.22 | bigfox | In my experience, too much heat or cold will destroy them. |
08:20.26 | herlo | why wouldn't it be? LCD is just a diode |
08:20.42 | herlo | well, sure, they'll degrade over time, but not compared to a crt IMO |
08:21.43 | herlo | and that there is much more to a crt than the lcd panel |
08:22.25 | bigfox | A CRT is not an option anyway. I already looked into that. There is no space big enough to install one. |
08:22.44 | herlo | right |
08:23.19 | herlo | I'd say that the biggest thing is the cold, heat is only an issue if its direct sunlight and can melt the bezel and stuff |
08:23.47 | herlo | having the car warm up before turning on the display might be a recommendation I would make... |
08:24.00 | bigfox | I'll have to keep a sun block for the windshield. |
08:24.16 | herlo | yeah, or just have a cover |
08:24.25 | herlo | which might help in both cold and hot |
08:24.35 | herlo | something simple like a lid |
08:24.41 | bigfox | How would it help in cold? |
08:26.30 | herlo | well, I was thinking it would keep the heat in a bit and cool it down slower |
08:26.51 | herlo | and when you warm up the car, it would be able to warm a bit more even... |
08:28.56 | bigfox | Another idea I came up with would be to build a low power heating element into the monitor. |
08:29.39 | bigfox | Not very hot mind you, just a few hundred miliamps. |
08:29.42 | herlo | yeah, tunnel some of the vehicle heater core heat back into the |
08:29.49 | herlo | there |
08:30.14 | herlo | but a heating element might work too, it might be a small drain on the battery, but hopefully not too much |
08:30.19 | bigfox | The heater in my saturn and LeSabre is a heater core that gets its heat from the engine. |
08:30.38 | herlo | yeah, pretty standard these days... |
08:31.07 | bigfox | It would be less then the dome light. With a good Diehard battery (The only kind I will use) it won't be a problem. |
09:11.46 | RedHeron | And install Ubuntu as the control OS for the distributor, right? |
09:21.50 | sontek | :O |
09:24.01 | sontek | my friend has a touch screen lcd that hasn't had any problems in the heat or cold |
09:40.58 | bigfox | distributor? |
09:42.12 | bigfox | No, I will only rig the computer will only monitor the cars computer through the cars ODB2 port. |
09:44.26 | bigfox | That will come after I get the computer installed and working. |
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16:46.42 | Zelut | morning |
17:06.53 | Heartsbane | morning |
17:09.39 | Zelut | Heartsbane: when do you sleep? I see you in here until the wee hours of the morn.. and you're back |
17:18.21 | Heartsbane | I don't want to sound weird or nothing .....hahahaha..... but I usually do about 6 hours a night then by like the 4th or 5th day ... I do a 10 to 12 hour death coma |
17:18.50 | Heartsbane | The funny part is I am always up at 4:00AM |
17:18.59 | Heartsbane | for breakfast |
17:22.32 | Heartsbane | Zelut: BTW Happy Festivus |
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17:43.52 | *** topic/#ubuntu-us-ut by Zelut -> Happy Festivus! - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Festivus | ...and for everyone else, have a Happy Tuesday! |
17:43.58 | Zelut | Heartsbane: how's that? |
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18:09.38 | Heartsbane | works for me |
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19:39.48 | tgelter | hey all |
19:54.29 | Zelut | hi |
19:55.39 | undertakingyou | hello |
20:05.45 | herlo | hello |
20:10.20 | Heartsbane | sup |
20:12.58 | Zelut | I have been tinkering with XP in VirtualBox and I realize I don't trust pretty much anything! |
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20:13.52 | Zelut | how much I take gpg-signed package management for granted anymore. There is no way to tell that *anything* you've installed isn't corrupted or altered with spyware. |
20:15.01 | mheath | Hmm, anyone here use Thoggen? |
20:15.49 | Zelut | mheath: I've been using acidrip vs Thoggen, but I have used it before. |
20:16.50 | mheath | I'm just wondering...if you do the option to determine output size by quality %, it only lets me go up to 63%. Why? |
20:29.36 | herlo | depends on the codec, size of the output and compression |
20:30.18 | mheath | herlo: well, you can't alter any of that in thoggen can you? |
20:30.24 | mheath | I have the picture size set to full |
20:30.38 | herlo | for instance, if you have a DVD at 4.3G, its encoded MPEG-2 at a higher bitrate than a 700M CD of the same video encoded in Xvid |
20:31.02 | herlo | mheath: well, I've not used thoggen, but you can tweak things to make it look better, but it depends on what you are trying to accomplish... |
20:31.19 | herlo | if thoggen can't do it, try acidrip as I know it can |
20:33.03 | mheath | herlo: I just use thoggen because its so simple. |
20:33.13 | mheath | A couple of clicks through two simple menus and your ripping |
20:33.26 | mheath | Everything else I found required complex configurations and multiple steps |
20:33.27 | herlo | mheath: acidrip isn't much harder |
20:34.02 | mheath | yeah, I used to do the same. |
20:36.45 | herlo | anyone heard of revolution? |
20:36.48 | herlo | the movie |
20:38.23 | Heartsbane | Al Pacino & Don Sutherland in it? |
20:38.51 | herlo | no |
20:39.01 | herlo | its a indie film about a boxer... |
20:39.11 | herlo | http://www.revoloutionmovie.com/indexflashparadise.html |
20:40.21 | herlo | beware, flash! |
20:40.37 | herlo | this also looks good: http://www.atasteforthetheatrical.com/deathtrap/default.htm |
20:41.04 | Heartsbane | oh |
20:42.27 | herlo | anyone heard of userful? http://userful.com/products/free-2-user-license |
20:46.40 | Heartsbane | nope |
20:46.50 | herlo | looks interesting, but non-free |
20:47.00 | herlo | wonder if there's anything like that that's FOSS |
20:54.24 | herlo | undertakingyou: ping |
20:59.11 | mheath | Wow |
20:59.15 | undertakingyou | pong |
20:59.16 | mheath | Have any of you used Wine Doors before? |
20:59.20 | mheath | I'm amazed by it. |
20:59.24 | RedHeron | Doors? |
21:00.22 | mheath | RedHeron: It's a utility for Wine, to install applications with |
21:00.24 | mheath | really sleek |
21:00.28 | mheath | really neat |
21:01.01 | mheath | First time you run it, it (for legal reasons) firsts asks you if you have a Windows license. If you reply yes, it then goes and downloads a bunch of extra stuff that makes Wine work better |
21:01.19 | mheath | Then, it brings up a sleek graphical list of programs you can install off the internet or local media.. |
21:01.20 | RedHeron | Hrm! And it just so happens I do. :-) |
21:01.24 | RedHeron | And it's not in use. |
21:04.10 | mheath | wow |
21:04.18 | mheath | it even automatically handles the applications installer for you |
21:04.33 | mheath | I just installed a working copy of Steam with one click, on Ubuntu :P |
21:35.36 | Zelut | fa-reak there are way too many people shopping today |
21:36.06 | herlo | really? that sucks |
21:39.00 | herlo | crap |
21:39.04 | Zelut | mheath: so is doors a package available or part of wine? |
21:39.42 | Zelut | herlo: my VirtualBox solution is working great now, and it can rip to .avi too |
21:40.57 | mheath | Zelut: a package (though not in any repos at the moment, apparently) |
21:41.43 | Zelut | mheath: got a link? |
21:42.45 | mheath | Zelut: http://www.wine-doors.org/ |
21:42.51 | mheath | Zelut: Its really neat |
21:43.08 | mheath | Zelut: Metainfo for various programs is pulled from an online repository and/or locally |
21:43.37 | mheath | Zelut: This metainfo can instruct on how to install a Windows program on CD, or it can download the program. |
21:46.46 | Zelut | mheath: I haven't used Wine now for ages. The one app I want to work doesn't |
21:48.04 | mheath | Zelut: Which app is that? |
21:48.45 | Zelut | mheath: slysoft.com anydvd and clonedvd2 |
21:49.10 | Zelut | mheath: dead-easiest solution I've found for archiving my DVDs and shrinking to DVD5 |
21:49.35 | mheath | hey, can anyone point me to a tutorial on setting up a Ubuntu third party sotware repo on a non-ubuntu-or-debian host? |
21:50.13 | Zelut | mheath: I do that pretty regularly using my local mirror |
21:50.23 | Zelut | mheath: creating a repo however I don't know how to do |
21:51.09 | mheath | Theres a couple apps that theres .debs for, but no repo, and I figured I'd be nice and setup a repo for the benefit of others. |
21:51.54 | Zelut | mheath: I think the unofficial common way to do that is use a PPA on launchpad. |
21:52.18 | mheath | Zelut: PPA? |
21:52.33 | Zelut | mheath: personal package archive |
21:54.04 | Zelut | mheath: on your user home page there is an 'activate PPA' button to allow you to add packages and share them in repo form with others |
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22:49.59 | Zelut | anyone use evolution with gmail imap? |
22:55.37 | herlo | Zelut: I think sontek does/is |
22:59.40 | Zelut | seems slow to me |
22:59.56 | sontek | Zelut: gmail's imap is slow |
23:00.15 | sontek | Zelut: but I switched to thunderbird, it seems to handle it a little better |
23:01.21 | sontek | Zelut: gmail doesn't tag their messages properly, so youo wont be able to filter new messages properly either |
23:02.04 | Zelut | sontek: does it work right if the filtering is done on gmails side? |
23:03.08 | sontek | Zelut: Yeah |
23:03.15 | sontek | Zelut: you just have to tell it to check every foldr |
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