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| 00:11.24 | Zelut | atoponce: ok.. I don't quite understand the MUC stuff.. |
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| 00:21.08 | Zelut | synic: can you explain why I would want to use MUC? |
| 00:21.48 | synic | *shrug*, if there were a jabber chatroom you wanted to join, you could. I don't see any advantage over creating one to just using IRC. |
| 00:25.41 | Zelut | well we have the GL chatroom at work, which I can't join from bitlbee |
| 00:26.10 | Zelut | but I guess if I use MUC I can join gurus@our.jabber.server room? |
| 00:30.19 | synic | yeah |
| 00:30.21 | synic | brb |
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| 01:12.34 | mheath | Careful tonight, folks...roads are trecherous up this way, at least. |
| 01:13.52 | synic | what way? |
| 01:14.12 | mheath | synic: snow and rain seems to ahve fallen in a perfect combination to make them as slippery as possible |
| 01:14.20 | synic | I mean, where? |
| 01:14.20 | mheath | I passed 4 accidents on the freeway between Kaysville and Riverdale |
| 01:14.31 | mheath | nearly slid off the road several times myself |
| 01:14.42 | mheath | and a drive taht should have taken 20 minutes ended up taking closer to an hour |
| 01:18.09 | Zelut | what is the syntax to write a CD from the CLI? wodim -v file /dev ? |
| 01:18.28 | mheath | O.o |
| 01:18.33 | mheath | What? What kind of CD? |
| 01:18.40 | Zelut | yeah |
| 01:19.00 | mheath | what the heck is wodim? |
| 01:19.02 | Zelut | I always use nautilus write-to-disk, just trying to remember the CLI syntax |
| 01:19.08 | Zelut | mheath: wodim is the replacement for cdrecord |
| 01:19.27 | mheath | ... |
| 01:19.37 | mheath | cdrecord is gone? |
| 01:22.24 | mheath | Zelut: didn't notice that.. |
| 01:22.42 | mheath | Zelut: but, no. apparently its like cdrecord... |
| 01:22.55 | mheath | wodim dev=/dev/hdn foo.iso |
| 01:23.39 | mheath | ah, it's just a branch of cdrecord |
| 01:25.52 | Zelut | the cdrecord devel is a retard so its a branch/fork as I understand it |
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| 01:30.47 | clutchmm | who knows how to get an ipod to work with amarok? |
| 01:32.29 | mheath | Zelut: hey, just so you know, theres some broken bits on your PXE netboot tutorial |
| 01:32.43 | Zelut | like? |
| 01:32.59 | mheath | Zelut: dhcp3-server's config is now in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf |
| 01:33.08 | clutchmm | Amarok detects the ipod and says there are a bunch of music files on it and plays the files from it, the ipod says that there is just over 9 gigs of data stored on it but doesn't show any of the music files or play them |
| 01:33.10 | mheath | Zelut: You say all you have to do is get up and running is add those two lines, too.. |
| 01:33.21 | mheath | Zelut: and dhcp3-server's default config fails to start with just the addition of those two lines |
| 01:33.50 | Zelut | does it fail to start by default? |
| 01:33.55 | mheath | Yep |
| 01:34.09 | Zelut | so the default config is broken? |
| 01:34.17 | mheath | Zelut: no, it requires basic config |
| 01:34.19 | mheath | doesn't work out of the box |
| 01:34.26 | mheath | you have to uncomment / edit a subnet configuration blog |
| 01:34.27 | mheath | *block |
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| 01:35.24 | Zelut | ok, that makes sense but I didn't want to get into teaching people how to configure their dhcp server too |
| 01:35.32 | mheath | Zelut: I know |
| 01:35.35 | Zelut | I suppose I could add that, but I assumed a working dhcp |
| 01:35.59 | clutchmm | any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? |
| 01:36.06 | clutchmm | or is it just me? |
| 01:38.18 | Zelut | atoponce: so I think I got the MUC connected to gurus@conference... but it looks really screwey |
| 01:39.55 | mheath | Zelut: another thing |
| 01:40.05 | mheath | mkdir /var/www/html/ubuntu7.10 |
| 01:40.10 | mheath | default apache root is now /var/www apparently |
| 01:40.14 | mheath | minus the html |
| 01:40.24 | Zelut | mheath: yeah, I think I was testing on rhel5 which has the html |
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| 01:45.23 | mheath | Zelut: oh, you never go over wehere to get pxelinux.0 either |
| 01:45.28 | mheath | Zelut: you setup the DHCP server to go to it |
| 01:45.33 | mheath | and you setup the pxelinux.0 configuration |
| 01:45.41 | mheath | but you never put a pxelinux.0 in /tftpboot |
| 01:46.26 | clutchmm | Heartsbane: ping |
| 01:46.33 | Heartsbane | clutchmm: sup |
| 01:46.56 | clutchmm | Heartsbane: do you know how to get an ipod to work with Amarok? |
| 01:47.14 | Heartsbane | negateev |
| 01:48.06 | Heartsbane | I am old school, I don't need all that jibba jabba |
| 01:51.08 | Zelut | clutchmm: I don't think any of us have ipods to help unfortunately.. |
| 01:51.38 | Heartsbane | sontek does |
| 01:52.01 | clutchmm | Zelut: I don't have one either but my brother does and I seem to be the family ubuntu guru |
| 01:52.12 | clutchmm | sontek: ping |
| 01:52.21 | Heartsbane | but I think he wears his ipod as a backpack |
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| 01:58.12 | fizz | clutchmm: what are you trying to get working? |
| 01:58.52 | Zelut | herlo: ping |
| 02:00.11 | fizz | clutchmm: try this: http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Media_Device:IPod |
| 02:01.19 | Heartsbane | herlo: ping [fixed] |
| 02:01.40 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: ping |
| 02:03.59 | herlo | Zelut: pong |
| 02:04.01 | herlo | Heartsbane: pong |
| 02:04.36 | Heartsbane | herlo: fixed, not nearly easy as I thought, but I did it |
| 02:04.47 | Heartsbane | check it and see |
| 02:05.39 | herlo | Heartsbane: .540 |
| 02:09.15 | sontek | amarok is a waste |
| 02:09.18 | sontek | use a real player |
| 02:09.21 | sontek | BANSHEE |
| 02:09.23 | sontek | :D |
| 02:09.23 | herlo | banshee! |
| 02:09.26 | sontek | it'll "just work" |
| 02:09.29 | sontek | (c) |
| 02:09.31 | herlo | or rhythmbox! |
| 02:09.40 | sontek | rythm is a waste too! |
| 02:09.42 | herlo | rhythmbox ftw! |
| 02:10.03 | herlo | nin |
| 02:10.17 | Heartsbane | sontek and the ipod backpack have spoken, so shush herlo |
| 02:10.50 | clutchmm | sontek: so ditch amarok and get banshee? |
| 02:10.55 | Heartsbane | rhythmbox is the sux |
| 02:11.08 | sontek | herlo: Muine is acceptable |
| 02:12.08 | Heartsbane | sontek: can you sync banshee with the ipod? |
| 02:12.26 | atoponce | Zelut: how does it look screwey? |
| 02:12.35 | Zelut | atoponce: I was looking at the wrong window |
| 02:13.05 | Heartsbane | you would |
| 02:13.09 | herlo | what's wrong with it? |
| 02:13.18 | herlo | name 43 things and I'll believe you |
| 02:13.38 | Heartsbane | it not VLC, I hate the list on the right side |
| 02:13.56 | Heartsbane | It has Goom visualizations |
| 02:13.58 | herlo | Heartsbane: the list isn't on the right side |
| 02:14.01 | herlo | its on top |
| 02:14.14 | Heartsbane | sorry |
| 02:14.47 | atoponce | ok |
| 02:14.47 | Heartsbane | last time I used it the shuffle didn't work right |
| 02:17.30 | clutchmm | sontek: ok the music shows up in banshee but still doesn't show up on the ipod, but the ipod says that 9gigs of it is used |
| 02:17.45 | herlo | Heartsbane: it works alright! |
| 02:18.08 | Heartsbane | so |
| 02:18.10 | sontek | clutchmm: so banshee can read the music from the ipod, but the ipod itself doesn't see it? |
| 02:18.30 | clutchmm | yes, amarok did the same thing |
| 02:18.49 | Heartsbane | herlo: argue with me, its just a debate of personal preference :) |
| 02:18.52 | sontek | clutchmm: can you go into console and type 'podsleuth' |
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| 02:19.02 | clutchmm | sontek: I think banshee is reading from the ipod anyway |
| 02:19.49 | clutchmm | sontek: says command not found |
| 02:20.11 | sontek | clutchmm: hmm, that means you are running a pretty old banshee that doesn't have the latest ipod support |
| 02:20.30 | sontek | I have to go to the gym, but when I get back I can try to help ya |
| 02:20.33 | clutchmm | I installed it from synaptic |
| 02:20.39 | clutchmm | ok |
| 02:21.16 | herlo | Heartsbane: no, I don't wanna argue, its more fun |
| 02:21.32 | herlo | to be indignant |
| 02:21.40 | Heartsbane | Hehehe |
| 02:30.03 | Zelut | herlo: so I guess I never set a hostname during installation so I'm just getting one via dhcp. |
| 02:30.18 | Zelut | herlo: I did set the hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network, but it must not be sticking.. |
| 03:10.46 | PenguinHunter_ | Hello you all |
| 03:11.00 | PenguinHunter_ | May the penguins not eat everything |
| 03:11.21 | herlo | Zelut: did you try hostname <yourhostname> ? |
| 03:24.04 | PenguinHunter_ | Anyone know of solid automated radio software |
| 03:24.41 | PenguinHunter_ | Working with a radio engineer who would like to change their three FM stations to running open source |
| 03:47.56 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: pong |
| 03:56.34 | PenguinHunter_ | ping |
| 03:56.43 | PenguinHunter_ | any ideas on my question |
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| 04:20.55 | Heartsbane | PenguinHunter_: no ideas |
| 04:21.09 | Heartsbane | undertakingyou: ping |
| 04:21.36 | undertakingyou | Heartsbane: pong |
| 04:23.55 | undertakingyou | yeah. |
| 05:32.35 | sontek | clutchmm: yeah, thats the biggest problem with ubuntu/mono, they don't have any really good packagers, so they are always waaaayyy behind |
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| 07:54.01 | thenetduck | I need to get out more |
| 09:00.39 | sontek | lol |
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| 15:40.11 | herlo | me too! |
| 15:52.46 | Zelut | morning |
| 15:53.00 | herlo | hi |
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| 16:32.51 | nearn | hehe i forgot about losing connection to this channel |
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| 16:45.01 | Zelut | does this link work for everyone? http://tinyurl.com/2yq493 |
| 16:45.07 | Zelut | should be my slides from the last meet |
| 16:46.16 | Yorokobi | Zelut, affirmative |
| 16:46.48 | Kemotaha | Zelut: I have to signinto to google but yes |
| 16:47.07 | Zelut | any way to export google presentation for import into OOo? |
| 16:47.19 | Kemotaha | i thought so |
| 16:47.49 | Zelut | can't seem to find the option if there is |
| 16:48.31 | Zelut | I can save as .html but the formatting gets a little screwed |
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| 16:50.12 | *** mode/#ubuntu-us-ut [+o Zelut] by ChanServ |
| 16:50.54 | *** topic/#ubuntu-us-ut by Zelut -> If you missed last saturday's meeting, the podcast is available here: http://podcast.utosf.org | Slides also available here: http://tinyurl.com/2yq493 | |
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| 16:54.04 | sontek | I prefer http://urlenco.de/ |
| 17:22.08 | herlo | I'd like to be able to think a thought and it automagically be formatted how I thought it and show up on the web already published by me :) |
| 17:24.52 | sontek | herlo: the web is not ready to handle your thoughts |
| 17:24.57 | sontek | herlo: you'll crash the internet! |
| 17:24.59 | herlo | sontek: probably true! |
| 17:25.14 | herlo | sontek: but I thought it might be a good idea for everyone ! |
| 17:26.48 | Zelut | herlo: you'll clog the pipes with your thought-diahrea |
| 17:28.31 | herlo | Zelut: that's hurtful and that's not how you spell diarhea |
| 17:28.35 | herlo | er diarrhea :) |
| 17:30.00 | herlo | I don't have dirty thoughts, very often.... |
| 17:30.11 | herlo | only every third second... |
| 17:38.32 | Zelut | so one of my students gave me a copy of Solaris 10 for my Sparc but I wonder if I'll even use it. |
| 17:43.40 | herlo | Zelut: it is *open* solaris 10 |
| 17:44.26 | Zelut | herlo: is there an open and a non-open solaris? |
| 17:44.33 | herlo | I think so |
| 17:44.45 | herlo | but I know they've been promoting openSolaris 10 |
| 17:45.17 | Zelut | I don't think this copy is the open copy, but I'm not sure. |
| 17:45.34 | Zelut | I asked about the license and he didn't know what I was talking about.. "uhh, the solaris license?" |
| 17:46.27 | herlo | looks free either way |
| 17:46.33 | herlo | http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/get.jsp |
| 17:46.44 | herlo | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/ |
| 17:47.02 | herlo | though I'm not sure about the first one's license either |
| 17:50.44 | thaddeusq | I know when I received my Solaris Certification, you were licensed to run it on any Sparc hardware. |
| 17:57.27 | herlo | thaddeusq: Zelut: the license for solaris 10 is not an open license beyond personal use |
| 18:00.10 | thaddeusq | herlo: I thought it was only the Open Solaris that had an "open" license. |
| 18:00.46 | thaddeusq | I was under the impression that the license for Solaris 10 is a propietary license |
| 18:01.28 | herlo | thaddeusq: right |
| 18:06.11 | Zelut | herlo: ...am I missing an /etc/syslog.conf on F8? |
| 18:10.36 | herlo | Zelut: its now called rsyslog.conf IIRC |
| 18:10.47 | herlo | new utility called rsyslogd replaced syslog |
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| 18:34.11 | Zelut | herlo: thanks |
| 18:37.49 | herlo | Zelut: so it was there? yea |
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| 19:05.19 | Zelut | kkubasik: duder, you must login to enter a comment? c'mon |
| 19:10.21 | Zelut | I'm very interested in changing to MTOS as well. WP has burned me too often lately. |
| 19:10.38 | Zelut | is there an actual stable release yet though? last I looked it was devel branches were available |
| 19:10.44 | nearn | good afternoon. |
| 19:11.11 | kkubasik | Zelut: yeah, im in a dev branch now |
| 19:11.24 | kkubasik | do you want me to give you an acccunt? |
| 19:11.31 | kkubasik | MT is inherently multiuser etc. |
| 19:11.57 | Zelut | kkubasik: tell me MT has an option of open commenting? |
| 19:12.17 | Zelut | if not I can't switch. requiring accounts to comment is teh suck |
| 19:12.40 | herlo | Zelut: IIRC it does |
| 19:16.26 | kkubasik | Zelut: yeah, it has open commenting |
| 19:16.35 | kkubasik | I just wanted to enable askismet before I allowed it |
| 19:17.23 | herlo | kkubasik: does it support akisment too? |
| 19:17.43 | herlo | wow, that's cool |
| 19:17.50 | Zelut | my askimet sucks right now. its not catching anything. |
| 19:20.16 | kkubasik | herlo: yeah |
| 19:20.25 | kkubasik | it supports a ton of stuff out of the box |
| 19:21.48 | Zelut | kkubasik: I'm tempted to switch but with the amount of traffic I get every day I have to be pretty particular and careful |
| 19:22.41 | herlo | Zelut: run them in parallel for a while |
| 19:22.55 | herlo | kkubasik: cool beans, I may consider deploying it. What is the backend language? |
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| 19:24.05 | kkubasik | a mix |
| 19:24.13 | kkubasik | perl, php, |
| 19:24.25 | kkubasik | iits worth playing with |
| 19:25.11 | herlo | intersting, I might just do that... |
| 19:29.58 | herlo | he always leaves when the conversations get interesting... |
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| 20:15.02 | synic | Zelut: define "active". I want a t-shirt!!! :) |
| 20:18.15 | Zelut | synic: you're active in my book |
| 20:18.25 | synic | sweet. I'm medium. |
| 20:18.39 | synic | depending how medium the medium is. |
| 20:18.46 | Zelut | synic: if you don't mind replying to the thread.. if its written down I won't forget :) |
| 20:18.54 | synic | understandable |
| 20:19.24 | Heartsbane | Zelut: updated the wiki with your slides |
| 20:19.44 | Kemotaha | am I active :) |
| 20:20.07 | Kemotaha | or just a pest? |
| 20:20.24 | Zelut | Kemotaha: well.. I suppose |
| 20:20.24 | Heartsbane | Oh no.. I got that one way before you do |
| 20:20.33 | Zelut | hell, just everyone reply with their size and I'll get as many as I can |
| 20:21.52 | Kemotaha | Zelut: I think it was just the way you put it. |
| 20:22.10 | Kemotaha | You classified us in a way that we haven't been classified before |
| 20:23.02 | Heartsbane | synic: tell cyclone he can't have one |
| 20:23.52 | synic | if he ever comes to work again. |
| 20:24.43 | Heartsbane | Did you guys superglue his keyboard to his desk, again. |
| 20:26.22 | synic | we haven't ever done that. I'll have to make a note. |
| 20:27.19 | herlo | Kemotaha: pest |
| 20:40.06 | Heartsbane | herlo: clown |
| 20:42.27 | herlo | Heartsbane: fool |
| 20:42.41 | synic | fannies. both of you. |
| 20:47.49 | Heartsbane | Damn |
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| 21:15.26 | Zelut | crap crap crap crap |
| 21:15.41 | Zelut | just realized I lost my 0.6 code when I reinstalled the other day.. and it was almost done too :( |
| 21:17.53 | Zelut | folding will be stuck at 0.5.2.1 without backup/restore functionality |
| 21:19.01 | Kemotaha | I am not sure where to laugh at you or mourn your loss |
| 21:19.35 | Zelut | I'll just chalk it up to a learning experience and it'll make me re-write the code for practice. |
| 21:19.42 | Zelut | I think it was a little bloated anyway :) |
| 21:19.47 | Kemotaha | :) |
| 21:20.01 | Kemotaha | Code is always better the second time around anyways |
| 21:41.03 | Zelut | ok I'm going to give Thunderbird a try again with gmail imap |
| 21:41.14 | Zelut | let's see if it sucks less than it did before |
| 21:44.51 | atoponce | it does |
| 21:44.58 | atoponce | a lot less |
| 21:47.24 | Zelut | atoponce: how do I specify pgp/mime with enigmail? |
| 21:48.20 | Zelut | found it |
| 21:48.29 | atoponce | its in the prefs smewhere |
| 21:48.34 | atoponce | ok |
| 21:49.21 | atoponce | so, testing.bitlbee.org sucks |
| 21:49.35 | atoponce | back to localhost |
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| 21:55.22 | Zelut | died on you too ehh? |
| 21:55.33 | Zelut | I'd like to just get a copy of the MUC code and run it from home |
| 21:55.43 | Zelut | it was nice being able to get in there within irssi/bitlbee |
| 21:58.17 | Zelut | nice, looks like enigmail can do the granular level GPG rules I want |
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| 22:07.56 | synic | testing.bitlbee.org had been working fine for months for me. |
| 22:08.05 | synic | theyn you two noobs got on there and it's crashed three times today. |
| 22:08.11 | synic | -y |
| 22:08.29 | synic | what did you do? |
| 22:09.13 | Zelut | got me.. |
| 22:12.35 | Zelut | is there a way to set the default sort-by value in thunderbird for *all* folders? |
| 22:22.34 | atoponce | ~blame synic |
| 22:22.35 | jbot | ACTION blames synic (and Canada) for all the evil in the world |
| 22:22.54 | atoponce | noob. heh. |
| 22:23.17 | atoponce | i could jabber circles aroun you in seconds |
| 22:23.56 | atoponce | Zelut: not that i know of |
| 22:32.05 | Zelut | atoponce: what size did you say you needed? XL? |
| 22:38.34 | atoponce | yeah |
| 22:41.55 | Zelut | is there a thunderbird equivalent button/setup to the gmail 'archive' button? |
| 22:44.43 | atoponce | Zelut: no |
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| 22:55.59 | Zelut | how about a way to lower the font size in the folder/email view? |
| 22:56.18 | Zelut | when I read/write an email its in a smaller font but the main organization view is the larger |
| 22:57.16 | atoponce | not sure |
| 22:57.54 | sontek | Zelut: have you used gmail's imap with thunderbird? |
| 23:00.45 | Zelut | sontek: using it now |
| 23:02.01 | Zelut | I almost prefer the web interface to gmail + filters/labels, but I can't create rules on signing/GPG |
| 23:02.11 | Zelut | that's really the only main limitation/complaint I have |
| 23:04.25 | herlo | I'm getting a lot of replies on my suse comparison... |
| 23:05.13 | herlo | Heartsbane: thanks for the comment ROFL for about 1 whole minute! |
| 23:06.56 | Heartsbane | herlo: I would never pass up a good opportunity to have some fun |
| 23:07.30 | Heartsbane | and I did, point out 3 of the same things you did, over the phone. |
| 23:11.53 | herlo | Heartsbane: I bet you did, |
| 23:11.59 | herlo | its not that I don't believe you... |
| 23:12.21 | herlo | Its that I get much more readership when I post controversial statements, its just fun! |
| 23:13.12 | herlo | I've already exceeded my daily readers already today |
| 23:19.30 | Heartsbane | The shockjock of linux blogging has left the building |
| 23:37.04 | atoponce | ~clown Heartsbane |
| 23:37.05 | jbot | ACTION puts on a red nose and attacks Heartsbane in his sleep |
| 23:38.33 | Heartsbane | hehehe |
| 23:45.45 | atoponce | 30 min until boarding... |
| 23:46.40 | atoponce | i've been here for 3 hours thus far |
| 23:46.52 | atoponce | *very* bored |
| 23:47.12 | Heartsbane | you know you could hang out somewhere other than the airport |
| 23:47.31 | atoponce | but what would i do? |
| 23:47.54 | Heartsbane | Well where are you for starters? |
| 23:48.23 | atoponce | dallas fort worth |
| 23:49.13 | Heartsbane | Ever been to 'sneaky Pete's' north of town, on the shores of Lake Lewisville |
| 23:49.49 | Heartsbane | Could have gone to Arlington and caught a Ranger's Game |
| 23:49.54 | atoponce | nope |
| 23:50.04 | atoponce | heh |
| 23:50.13 | Heartsbane | Last time I was in Dallas/Fort Worth... this is a good one |
| 23:50.35 | sontek | Zelut: the reason I ask is because gmail's implementation is actually wrong (new messages aren't actually tagged as 'new'), so I was wondering if thunderbird's filtering worked properly on incoming mail |
| 23:51.09 | Heartsbane | I went to a Dairy Queen, where Mark Cuban owner of the Mavericks was force to work because he shot his mouth off how easy a job that was |
| 23:51.32 | atoponce | haha |
| 23:51.39 | Heartsbane | I got pics somewhere |
| 23:51.56 | atoponce | graet. plane delayed |
| 23:52.01 | atoponce | this blows |
| 23:52.38 | atoponce | not that you're not entertaining me, because you are. :) |
| 23:53.46 | atoponce | i need donuts |
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| 23:54.50 | Heartsbane | You don't need donuts |
| 23:54.55 | Heartsbane | you want donuts |
| 23:55.13 | atoponce | same thing |
| 23:56.23 | atoponce | need vs wantvthat is |