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| 03:16.07 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: whats the problem with the new IDE stuff? |
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| 04:59.00 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 04:59.17 | prpplague | as_: lo |
| 04:59.55 | kergoth | hey |
| 05:02.08 | prpplague | kergoth: hows oz? |
| 05:02.17 | prpplague | kergoth: i've not been able to work on my z in weeks |
| 05:02.22 | kergoth | prpplague: 3.1rc1 releases today or tomorrow, its going quite well |
| 05:02.33 | kergoth | prpplague: the shitty ass atd alarm daemon is dead, thank god |
| 05:02.41 | kergoth | prpplague: and our battery status no longer consists of 3 levels |
| 05:03.07 | prpplague | lol |
| 05:03.35 | prpplague | kergoth: man i envy you your determination and stamina in keep oz going |
| 05:03.43 | kergoth | hah |
| 05:03.47 | prpplague | kergoth: did you order one of the webpals? |
| 05:03.52 | kergoth | only thing that bothers me, is the end user support aspect |
| 05:04.00 | kergoth | prpplague: not yet, spaced it. should do so now |
| 05:13.04 | jacques | hello |
| 05:13.13 | kergoth | hey jacques |
| 05:13.20 | jacques | :-) |
| 05:15.26 | kergoth | hmm |
| 05:15.28 | kergoth | http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h.comp.IBM18415K.html |
| 05:15.35 | kergoth | eek, only 90 day warranty, screw that |
| 05:15.40 | kergoth | ibm drives are always dying on me |
| 05:20.28 | jacques | 90 day!! |
| 05:20.36 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:20.43 | jacques | i lost 3 of 4 personal ibm drives |
| 05:20.52 | jacques | at work we lost like 8 of 9 |
| 05:20.54 | kergoth | 2 here |
| 05:20.55 | kergoth | ouch |
| 05:21.49 | jacques | yeah for a couple of weeks we were replacing like 1 a day almost |
| 05:21.56 | as_ | prp :] |
| 05:26.05 | as_ | 90 days on a HD?!? |
| 05:26.16 | kergoth | as_: scary eh? IBM no less |
| 05:26.24 | as_ | Crikey, and I thought 1 year was terrible for maxtor. |
| 05:26.53 | kergoth | as_: hehe. some form of surplus, doesnt have the factury warranty |
| 05:27.30 | as_ | Sure they quote 20year+ MTBFs but when it comes to the crunch they only give 12months now. :/ |
| 05:36.11 | MonMotha | I just RMAed a hard drive today actually |
| 05:36.16 | MonMotha | had a 5 year warranty |
| 05:36.30 | MonMotha | I have another one I should check on...it's giving the "hoarde of locusts" sound |
| 05:36.37 | as_ | Doh. |
| 05:36.48 | as_ | I want an IDE Raid system. |
| 05:37.12 | as_ | I like the idea of 500years reliable data storage. |
| 05:37.16 | kergoth | i just bought a second 3 channel caching scsi raid controller |
| 05:37.33 | MonMotha | kergoth: jeesh! |
| 05:37.36 | MonMotha | one wasn't enough? |
| 05:37.44 | MonMotha | or are you going to RAID the controllers now? :) |
| 05:37.45 | kergoth | MonMotha: this one supports Ultra2 LVD! |
| 05:37.48 | kergoth | MonMotha: $79!! |
| 05:37.49 | MonMotha | ah |
| 05:37.54 | MonMotha | yeah, mine only does single ended |
| 05:37.55 | MonMotha | not bad |
| 05:37.59 | kergoth | MonMotha: and it takes regular EDO SIMMs instead of this parity crap |
| 05:38.03 | MonMotha | but then, all my drives are only single ended SCSI :) |
| 05:38.56 | MonMotha | I know a place that sells SCSI drives (of varying sorts) for about $50 per drive if you're interested |
| 05:39.01 | MonMotha | sizes range from 2GB-20GB |
| 05:39.14 | MonMotha | prices from $30-$100 or so |
| 05:39.40 | MonMotha | though it is a bricks-n-mortar store, so you might have to use ye olde telephone to make orders :) |
| 05:40.09 | kergoth | MonMotha: hehe. thats what i love about raid, is you can often pick up a number of slightly older drives, throw them into an array, and not have spent a lot of money |
| 05:40.39 | MonMotha | yep |
| 05:40.48 | MonMotha | though you could easily spend a grand or so on a rather small array |
| 05:40.53 | MonMotha | (300GB or so) |
| 05:40.55 | kergoth | indeed. |
| 05:41.12 | MonMotha | though you'll probably max the SCSI bus in terms of transfer speeds...all with no CPU overhead. Yeah! |
| 05:41.14 | as_ | 300G total? |
| 05:41.24 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:42.12 | MonMotha | as_: somewhere in that ballpart |
| 05:42.26 | MonMotha | he's got 6 SCSI channels to work with, so he can get by with small, cheap drives |
| 05:42.29 | as_ | Actually, Id be very dissapointed in that ;] |
| 05:42.30 | MonMotha | now power on the other hand... :) |
| 05:42.44 | as_ | I have a bunch of 120G IDE drives. |
| 05:43.40 | kergoth | MonMotha: shit i could leave the heater off and let my arrays heat my den eh? ;) |
| 05:43.55 | MonMotha | kergoth: pretty much |
| 05:43.58 | as_ | I think I could knock up a 300G+ IDE RAID array for peanuts. |
| 05:44.00 | MonMotha | as_: yes, but are they SCSI? :) |
| 05:44.21 | MonMotha | IDE RAID is probably the way to go these days...too bad all the controllers suck |
| 05:44.26 | MonMotha | even the 3ware's aren't that good... |
| 05:44.34 | kergoth | as_: people underestimate just how amazing SCSI is for real multitasking and real world environments |
| 05:44.45 | MonMotha | software raid I guess...might as well since IDE is horrible to the CPU anyway |
| 05:44.52 | MonMotha | as_: tagged command queueing..yummmm |
| 05:44.54 | kergoth | as_: and RAID gives you the ability to offset the normally higher cost |
| 05:44.56 | as_ | I know its good, but its too expensive for me. |
| 05:45.01 | kergoth | as_: ;) |
| 05:45.43 | as_ | You can make an array for half the amount in IDE and have money left over. |
| 05:46.11 | kergoth | true that. |
| 05:47.34 | as_ | It may not perform as well, but half as much is like HALF AS MUCH WHOAAHHHHAAA!! |
| 05:47.53 | kergoth | as_: hehe |
| 05:49.02 | as_ | Unfortunatly I have a major problem, and its eating 120G drives. |
| 05:49.27 | MonMotha | heh |
| 05:49.36 | as_ | I need to find a solution before all those spare drives can become my monster IDE RAID system from hell. |
| 05:50.05 | kergoth | chomp chomp |
| 05:50.39 | as_ | By the time I'm finished a single IDE 1TB will probably be available and utterly waste my masterplan. |
| 05:53.17 | MonMotha | you should see my monster RAID box |
| 05:53.23 | MonMotha | it's held together using...say it with me folks |
| 05:53.27 | MonMotha | DUCT TAPE! |
| 05:53.30 | MonMotha | ibot duct tape? |
| 05:53.31 | | i don't know, MonMotha |
| 05:53.42 | MonMotha | ibot duct tape is the greatest invention of all mankind |
| 05:53.43 | | MonMotha: okay |
| 05:56.16 | kergoth | mm duct tape |
| 05:56.46 | kergoth | hm question is, do i want 10,000rpm or just 7200, or even 5400, for my next array |
| 05:57.22 | ][N-Flux | 7200 at least |
| 05:57.26 | ][N-Flux | 5400 is too damn dirt slow |
| 05:57.55 | kergoth | ][N-Flux: in an array? when striped, you'll hardly notice. particularly in a personal LAN |
| 05:58.00 | kergoth | ][N-Flux: :) |
| 05:58.05 | ][N-Flux | SLOW :) |
| 05:58.10 | ][N-Flux | I'm jaded is all |
| 05:58.12 | kergoth | bah! |
| 05:58.13 | kergoth | hehe |
| 05:58.21 | ][N-Flux | just had to use an old 20gig 54000 for temp install |
| 05:58.33 | kergoth | ahh, i hate that |
| 05:58.42 | kergoth | but raid makes it all bettre! |
| 05:58.44 | kergoth | heh |
| 05:58.46 | ][N-Flux | yeah |
| 05:58.53 | kergoth | hm, cant type |
| 05:58.55 | kergoth | ah well |
| 05:58.57 | ][N-Flux | but just installed an 80giger |
| 06:00.01 | LIM | duct tape is also conductive...kablam! |
| 06:00.07 | MonMotha | kergoth: 5400, less heat, generally higher reliability, quieter, lower power consumption |
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| 18:16.28 | scanline | hi |
| 18:16.55 | sorphin | problem? |
| 18:18.16 | scanline | When it's first started up the screen is either really wiggly horizontally or it just takes one row of pixels and fills the screen with them.. if I press one of the menu buttons it changes the pattern but it still does something similar. After it's been on for a few minutes it's fine. |
| 18:18.42 | scanline | so I figured the line clock was loose... took apart all the connectors and socketed ICs, cleaned it, reassembled... didn't help |
| 18:19.30 | sorphin | ugh |
| 18:19.45 | scanline | it's a nice 17" LCD monitor too |
| 18:20.05 | sorphin | never had an lcd |
| 18:20.21 | sorphin | too pricey for me and heard things about them w/ fast moving graphics |
| 18:20.31 | scanline | so.. right now all I can figure is there's an oscillator that isn't stabilizing correctly until after it's been on for a while |
| 18:20.36 | scanline | yeah |
| 18:20.50 | sorphin | tis possible |
| 18:20.57 | scanline | for the most part there's nothing about it that bugs me, though if you play a lot of movies or games a CRT is better |
| 18:21.06 | sorphin | what kind/still warrantied? |
| 18:21.26 | scanline | Viewsonic VA800, I don't think it's still under warranty (it's over a year old IIRC) |
| 18:21.33 | sorphin | hmm |
| 18:21.51 | scanline | ah.. screen is completely stable now |
| 18:21.53 | sorphin | 3 year warranty |
| 18:22.00 | scanline | it was still wiggling a little when I joined IRC :) |
| 18:22.17 | scanline | cool. if I do have to have them fix it, hopefully they won't notice I took it apart first :) |
| 18:22.37 | sorphin | scanline: as long as there's no "warranty void if removed" type sticker |
| 18:22.42 | sorphin | and you were careful |
| 18:22.44 | sorphin | you'll be fine |
| 18:22.45 | scanline | yep |
| 18:23.05 | scanline | the only thing they could possibly notice is conductive tape put back in slightly different places.. but I don't think they would notice that |
| 18:23.05 | sorphin | direct from viewsonic's page |
| 18:23.13 | sorphin | Three-year limited warranty on parts, labor and backlight. |
| 18:23.25 | kergoth | my screen likes to periodically jump half a centimeter to the right, or the left |
| 18:23.28 | kergoth | fun stuff |
| 18:23.34 | scanline | spiffy. I still have the original box too |
| 18:23.43 | sorphin | kergoth: it's the digiradiation ;p |
| 18:23.48 | scanline | well, brb.. shower |
| 18:24.22 | kergoth | ~lart sorphin |
| 18:25.00 | sorphin | ~fishslap kergoth |
| 18:25.01 | | ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 18:25.02 | sorphin | ~lart kergoth |
| 18:27.38 | kergoth | hmm |
| 18:27.42 | kergoth | idiot fucking customers |
| 18:27.50 | kergoth | sorry sir, yiou cant put a getty on the port without getty installed |
| 18:27.54 | kergoth | *click* |
| 18:28.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:29.30 | sorphin | kergoth: there a page for the zaurus stuff? (i know it's not gonna have the specs that the devel one they were selling has tho..) |
| 18:29.47 | kergoth | sorphin: myzaurus.com/, zaurus.com/, zauruszone.com/ |
| 18:29.55 | sorphin | heh |
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| 18:51.01 | CosmicPenguin | Or actually, even good afternoon |
| 18:51.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yo |
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| 20:08.26 | file | hey sjhill |
| 20:09.05 | sjhill | hi file |
| 20:10.18 | file | what's up? |
| 20:11.25 | sjhill | nothing much, just doing the job search thing |
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| 21:00.03 | prpplague | julie_: howdie |
| 21:00.08 | prpplague | sjhill: any luck? |
| 21:01.35 | sorphin | prpplague: last he responded to me, he was filling out 3 online applications |
| 21:05.21 | julie_ | hi |
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| 21:15.43 | sjhill | prpplague: not so far |
| 21:16.24 | prpplague | sjhill: Morn is a female character in a scifi novel |
| 21:16.27 | sorphin | sjhill: umm. yeah.. morn has always been a chick ;) |
| 21:17.00 | sjhill | i have trouble keeping up with scifi...oh yeah, that's right...i have a life |
| 21:17.09 | sorphin | prpplague: i meant OUR morn ;p |
| 21:17.22 | prpplague | sjhill: ya well most of us don't |
| 21:17.28 | sjhill | prpplague: i'm joking :) |
| 21:17.35 | prpplague | sorphin: so did i, thats where she got her nick |
| 21:17.42 | sorphin | prpplague: she's quite a cute female at that |
| 21:17.46 | prpplague | sjhill: i wasn't lol, i have no life |
| 21:17.50 | sjhill | lol |
| 21:17.52 | sorphin | prpplague: nono, not where she got her nick |
| 21:18.01 | sorphin | prpplague: i specifically meant julie ;p |
| 21:18.37 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, you have me confused? |
| 21:19.43 | sorphin | prpplague: hmm |
| 21:22.05 | prpplague | sjhill: i'm a real geek, monday night is not for football, but for drinking beer and finding flaws in starwars or LotR, lol |
| 21:22.13 | sjhill | heh |
| 21:22.18 | sorphin | get this |
| 21:22.26 | Morn | yes I took the nick from a characterin a book I related to |
| 21:22.29 | sorphin | tomorrow at 3pm is the group xmas party at a bar ;) |
| 21:22.45 | sorphin | happy hour drink prices ;) |
| 21:23.41 | Morn | I officially hate windows, 2x now the screen saver kicked in and I couldn't get out of it except by rebooting |
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| 21:25.50 | prpplague | Morn: that's winblows for ya |
| 21:26.38 | Morn | very annoying |
| 21:27.22 | prpplague | Morn: kinda like a bartender pouring you a beer into a plastic cup? |
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| 21:29.21 | prpplague | BZFlag: hey |
| 21:29.36 | prpplague | BZFlag: did ya get a webpal? or are to too busy these days? |
| 21:29.51 | BZFlag | to busy at the moment. |
| 21:29.57 | BZFlag | er too... ;-) |
| 21:30.44 | prpplague | BZFlag: thats ok, i'll save you one if you want :) |
| 21:33.54 | Morn | is cosmic around? |
| 21:34.27 | sorphin | he might be on the other channel ;) |
| 21:34.35 | sorphin | all this channel hopping |
| 21:34.40 | sorphin | ;) |
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| 21:36.51 | Morn | what 'other' channel |
| 21:37.00 | prpplague | elinux |
| 21:37.09 | sorphin | the one where everyone else is ;p |
| 21:37.14 | prpplague | BZFlag has evicted everyone |
| 21:38.45 | file | there's a router that's down somewhere... |
| 21:39.00 | file | but I dunno where... |
| 21:39.04 | file | what's the ip of staticky.com? |
| 21:42.49 | Morn | does anyone here use wireless a lot with linux? |
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| 21:52.07 | BZFlag | ~nslookup staticky.com |
| 21:52.22 | file | ooh |
| 21:52.33 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:52.49 | file | now everything works |
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