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| 02:04.29 | MonMotha | yeah...a rather painful process of rebuilding everything tends to follow |
| 02:04.33 | MonMotha | Russ|werk: you here? |
| 02:06.11 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... bond and hacking or Christmas Vaction and vegging on the couch |
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| 08:14.56 | TomW | andersee: Erik, do I need a special version of busybox to run the 2.5 kernel? It looks like busybox is complaining "not configured to run old kernels", is that your error? |
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| 08:33.58 | andersee | TomW: That is busybox modutils whining. Module support in 2.5.50 is a total mess, that hasn't yet been fully mopped up yet... It will require some busybox work one the kernel folk and modutils folk finish sorting out the implementation details for Rusty Russel's new in kernel loader. |
| 08:34.19 | andersee | s/work one/work/once/ |
| 08:34.47 | andersee | Fortunately, the user space side should be relatively simple... |
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| 13:32.05 | sorphin | LIM|Away: alive? |
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| 14:20.40 | jscoggs27 | hello? |
| 14:20.59 | file | hello jscoggs27 |
| 14:21.29 | jscoggs27 | ok great...its only taken me 5 days to make this work!! ty |
| 14:21.52 | file | hehe |
| 14:22.20 | jscoggs27 | im not sure how this works you appear on my list as file? |
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| 14:35.38 | file | hey GPSFan |
| 14:57.44 | GPSFan | hi file: |
| 15:57.03 | sorphin | file: um.. why the hell was that dork even in here? |
| 15:58.04 | file | dunno |
| 15:58.59 | sorphin | file: you saw my mention that they dropped that rio to 79 ? |
| 15:59.08 | file | nope |
| 15:59.44 | file | good good |
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| 17:16.39 | TomW | morning |
| 17:17.59 | sorphin | allo tom |
| 17:19.31 | file | sorphin: it must not like you |
| 17:19.40 | sorphin | file: piss off |
| 17:19.52 | file | and I see why. |
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| 17:21.02 | ade | lo folks |
| 17:21.13 | sorphin | file: uh.. you're the one that instigated |
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| 17:21.39 | sorphin | or did someone else named file, say: <file> sorphin: it must not like you |
| 17:21.39 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:21.52 | file | that was a joke |
| 17:22.08 | sorphin | you don't know me well enough to "joke" with me. |
| 17:22.08 | file | when something doesn't work for you, I usually say to the person it must not like you |
| 17:22.36 | TomW | sorphin: you two work at the same company or something? |
| 17:22.42 | sorphin | TomW: uhhh no |
| 17:22.47 | sorphin | he's in some part of canada |
| 17:23.02 | TomW | just wondering, seems you're always stepping on his tail. |
| 17:23.09 | sorphin | TomW: not to mention, file is a bit too young to work where i do :P |
| 17:23.28 | ade|lite | file: how old are you ? |
| 17:23.30 | TomW | ah retirement community, eh? |
| 17:23.45 | TomW | he could intern... |
| 17:23.50 | sorphin | TomW: uhh |
| 17:24.01 | sorphin | TomW: not a wcom he wouldn't |
| 17:24.15 | sorphin | at |
| 17:24.15 | TomW | yeah |
| 17:24.21 | ade|lite | whats the min age then sorphin ? |
| 17:24.46 | sorphin | ade|desk: prolly 18 |
| 17:25.08 | sorphin | unless he were in the call centers, then he might get away w/ 17 |
| 17:25.23 | ade|lite | wee babies then |
| 17:25.29 | sorphin | no call centers in my dept tho |
| 17:25.35 | sorphin | anyways |
| 17:25.51 | sorphin | now it's time to figure out the *real* reason why this thing is misbehaving this time |
| 17:26.09 | TomW | I have an interesting problem to poke at. This P4 motherboard has some bleedin' edge Intel chipset in it. I wonder how much of a problem it would be to migrate some 2.5.50 drivers down to 2.4.19? |
| 17:26.20 | ade|lite | sorphin: what's up with what? |
| 17:27.03 | ade|lite | TomW: most 2.5 stuff backports fairly easily atm |
| 17:27.30 | sorphin | ade|lite: this tux |
| 17:27.46 | ade|lite | TomW: except the build sys and vfs layer |
| 17:27.53 | TomW | yeah, you know, it is probably something simple like just entering the #def's into drivers/pci/pci-ids.h or something. |
| 17:28.35 | TomW | I tried building and booting 2.5.50... :P |
| 17:28.50 | ade|lite | TomW: check the lk-ml and see if someone has a 2.4 patch |
| 17:29.13 | ade|lite | sorphin: what wrong with your tux ? |
| 17:29.46 | TomW | I don't need the machine right now, so I'll play with it as I go along. Interesting problem. |
| 17:30.03 | TomW | s/problem/puzzle/ |
| 17:30.25 | sorphin | ade|lite: not responding to infernoremote |
| 17:30.30 | sorphin | and they used ot |
| 17:30.31 | sorphin | to |
| 17:30.37 | ade|lite | TomW: knowing AC he'll have backported it to 2.4 by mid dec |
| 17:30.59 | sorphin | ade|lite: i'm a bit miffed at alan atm |
| 17:31.05 | sorphin | his damn -ac1 for 2.4.20 |
| 17:31.08 | TomW | yeah I should check his stuff too. |
| 17:31.14 | sorphin | causes panic when you do anything to the ide |
| 17:31.22 | ade|lite | sorphin: hmm bugger.. have you changed your linux inferno part lately ? |
| 17:31.28 | sorphin | nope |
| 17:31.37 | sorphin | the inferno is the same as it was |
| 17:31.56 | ade|lite | yeah AC put the 2.5 ide bit in ... big mistake atm IMHO |
| 17:32.00 | TomW | sorphin: don't say that, that is where I am having the problem. The ide chipset is not recognized under 2.4.19 and it drops back to PIO mode 0. |
| 17:32.30 | ade|lite | generic dma not working? |
| 17:32.44 | TomW | naw "resource conflict" |
| 17:32.59 | TomW | it doesn't know what the chipset it. |
| 17:33.04 | TomW | s/it/is/ |
| 17:33.09 | ade|lite | james bond calls ... got to go ... will chat soon |
| 17:33.09 | sorphin | TomW: i'd be lucky if it did that |
| 17:33.16 | sorphin | TomW: it kernel panics |
| 17:33.34 | TomW | hee hee, nice puzzle to work on. Had a few of those. |
| 17:33.58 | sorphin | i don't feel like trying to diagnose that crap |
| 17:34.01 | sorphin | that's why i backed out |
| 17:34.20 | sorphin | i've had less probs w/ mainstream kernels compiling since marcelo took over 2.4 |
| 17:34.25 | sorphin | whereas w/ linus |
| 17:34.34 | sorphin | i NEVER had a mainstream 2.4 compiled w/o an ac patch |
| 17:35.00 | TomW | well, I have an ATA100 120Gig drive in that system, I would like it to run faster than 4 MB/s. |
| 17:35.58 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:35.59 | TomW | the machine is a P4 2GHz, from freetech.com, they claim that all their stuff is linux tested. |
| 17:36.14 | sorphin | TomW: you'd be lucky to get ATA100 to run that fast :P |
| 17:36.21 | TomW | ? |
| 17:36.30 | sorphin | they don't run that fast ;p |
| 17:36.53 | TomW | I do too, the one system has two 40's in it and the xfer rate is around 43 MB/s |
| 17:36.56 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.56 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.11 | TomW | sorphin: must be your chipset. |
| 17:37.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:37.28 | TomW | or the drive. |
| 17:37.36 | sorphin | maxtor 60G's |
| 17:37.50 | TomW | yeah, I got a 10G ATA100 that is only doing 26 MB/s |
| 17:38.05 | sorphin | board chipset is via 686 |
| 17:38.31 | TomW | The two 40G drives are IBM series, they are FAST. |
| 17:39.13 | TomW | Let me boot the other box, it is a VIA chipset. The one I am using here is the Intel Chipset. I'll see if any diff. |
| 17:41.55 | TomW | no hdparm on that box, got to install it. |
| 17:42.22 | sorphin | heh |
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| 17:45.32 | TomW | sorphin: 37.87MB/s |
| 17:46.35 | TomW | that is a Seagate ST340016A drive, Celeron 1100, Via chipset. |
| 17:47.25 | TomW | IIRC, the maxtor drive that I have (40G) was a slower xfer rate. Mind is still fuzzy from sleep though.. |
| 17:49.59 | TomW | I was shocked when I ran the hdparm on the ATA100 setup and then against my U160 SCSI setup and found that the ATA100 drives were faster than the SCSI!!! |
| 17:50.28 | TomW | the U160 clocked in at 34MB/s and the ATA100's were coming in at 43MB/s |
| 17:51.50 | sorphin | there, finally, damn tux |
| 17:51.56 | TomW | That was after IBM shafted me and refused to honor the warranty on a bad DeskStar 18G drive. I figured that for the price I was paying for the darned SCSI drives and having them fail every year or so, it made more sense to use cheap-o IDE drives. |
| 17:52.00 | sorphin | and it worked |
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| 17:55.46 | sorphin | TomW: hmm |
| 17:55.59 | sorphin | ctrl-a won't work, but - does, tho i don't get the prompt.. |
| 17:56.12 | TomW | doing a "new" tux? |
| 17:56.35 | TomW | maybe you need to use the JTAG on that one? |
| 17:56.48 | sorphin | no |
| 17:56.53 | sorphin | there, worked this time |
| 17:57.14 | TomW | I just love "shorts and intermittants", don't you? |
| 17:57.35 | TomW | nothing like having stuff run predictably. |
| 17:58.05 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:58.06 | sorphin | yeah |
| 17:58.10 | sorphin | speaking of shorts *grin* |
| 17:58.16 | sorphin | how'd those remaining boards go? |
| 17:58.58 | TomW | I got 96 done, then I ran out of 0.1uf chip caps. That is ok. I will "back order" the remaining boards. |
| 17:59.36 | TomW | reminds me, I have to clean the flux off those boards today before it sets up too much. |
| 18:00.30 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:01.24 | TomW | I messed up, I didn't make a boot disk for the P4 system and now I cannot get into it to "rescue" it. |
| 18:01.51 | TomW | Why did Mandrake goto 700M CDROM images anyway! drat! |
| 18:02.08 | TomW | all I have here is 650Meg media. |
| 18:02.34 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:02.35 | sorphin | no idea |
| 18:03.02 | TomW | some cool stuff coming up early next year. I have all the fast-food stores running linux and we just installed the last broadband connection. |
| 18:04.29 | TomW | I met up with a guy that is running a small ISP and switch his operation over to linux for him. The guy is a database programmer, and as I need to develop a similar approach (remote SQL, PoPToP), we are collaborating on the thing. |
| 18:04.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:04.46 | TomW | He is writing his stuff in Delphi 6 and I am doing mine in Kylix 3. |
| 18:06.00 | sorphin | whoever put that 1sec delay in blob needs to be shot |
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| 19:00.30 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:00.48 | sorphin | buildroot hung during compile.. stopped during uClibc config.. waiting for input |
| 19:00.52 | sorphin | Support global constructors and destructors (UCLIBC_CTOR_DTOR) [Y/n/?] (NEW) |
| 19:00.54 | sorphin | :P |
| 19:01.18 | TomW | yeah... |
| 19:01.28 | sorphin | and atexit |
| 19:01.43 | TomW | trouble is, when you exist on the bleeding edge, sometimes you get cut. |
| 19:02.19 | sorphin | well, i have to wait for erik to reappear so i can prod about it ;p |
| 19:03.47 | TomW | well, it is obviously a C++ thing, I don't see an issue with supporting the global constructors & destructors, do you? If it don't work, say NO next time.. :D |
| 19:05.35 | sorphin | it was just the fact that buildroot STOPS and waits for you to respond :P |
| 19:07.33 | TomW | yeah, I don't much care for c++, to me (expert c programmer), I view c++ in the same vien as I do Macro Assembler. |
| 19:07.43 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:08.07 | sorphin | when i moved to linux, i stopped using it |
| 19:08.21 | TomW | Both of them are half-assed approaches to doing the job. They both were designed by individuals too lazy to build something the right way. |
| 19:08.58 | TomW | Although, Macro Assembler does have it's uses, I suppose that is true of c++. <sigh> |
| 19:10.05 | sorphin | c++ was easy to breeze through when i had to take the class for my bachelors |
| 19:10.33 | TomW | mmm |
| 19:11.01 | TomW | kind of like taking World History? You need it to get the degree. |
| 19:11.24 | TomW | about as usefull, IMNSHO. |
| 19:11.50 | TomW | s/IMNSHO/IN(not-so)HO/ |
| 19:12.00 | TomW | whatever. |
| 19:12.50 | TomW | not the time to go bashing c++, you never know when there is some peice of c++ code you need to get working and if you piss the c++ programmers off, they won't help you. :-/ |
| 19:15.05 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:20.41 | TomW | sorphin: so, how is it that you are panic-ing the 2.4.20-ac kernel? |
| 19:28.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:28.38 | sorphin | hdparm -c1 -d1 -u1 /dev/hda :P |
| 19:28.47 | sorphin | then try and do something that accesses the disk |
| 19:28.49 | sorphin | even a ps |
| 19:30.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:30.32 | sorphin | didn't fix squat |
| 19:30.41 | sorphin | checking whether the C compiler (/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/gcc-final/gcc/xgcc -B/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/gcc-final/gcc/ -B/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/arm-linux/bin/ -B/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/arm-linux/lib/ -isystem /root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/arm-linux/include -g -Os ) works... no |
| 19:30.41 | sorphin | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 19:30.41 | sorphin | make[1]: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1 |
| 19:30.41 | sorphin | make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/gcc-final' |
| 19:30.56 | TomW | the -c1 & -d1 flags seem ok, why you messing with the -u (the interrupt)?! |
| 19:31.59 | TomW | my tux development stuff is so old, I'd be afraid to get the latest dev stuff. |
| 19:32.00 | sorphin | it paniced even w/o -u1 tho ;p |
| 19:33.09 | TomW | where did you get alan's patches from? |
| 19:36.20 | sorphin | kernel.org as usla |
| 19:36.23 | sorphin | usual |
| 19:36.31 | sorphin | main page |
| 19:45.26 | TomW | k, I got the 2.4.20 tarball, I'll see if my hardware is defined in there before I start patching anything. |
| 19:48.38 | file | TomW: good luck |
| 19:49.00 | TomW | it is in there, now just doing menuconfig. |
| 19:57.15 | TomW | sorphin: you were messing with the hdparms on that Maxtor drive to get the MB/sec xfer rate to go over 26MB/sec? |
| 19:57.37 | TomW | sorphin: is that why you were doing it? |
| 19:58.42 | TomW | IIRC, the 40Gig Maxtor was installed in one of my machines that had an ATA66 ide chipset, the xfer rate was only at 26MB/s. |
| 19:59.15 | sorphin | TomW: i was doing it cuz on boot it said it was turning off dma ;p |
| 19:59.28 | TomW | hmmm |
| 20:00.02 | TomW | did you try hdparm -p4 /dev/hda? |
| 20:00.25 | sorphin | umm |
| 20:00.35 | sorphin | why the hell would i wanna turn on pio mode 4? :P |
| 20:00.37 | sorphin | that's slow |
| 20:00.51 | TomW | checking |
| 20:01.18 | sorphin | dma works fine here, that ac patch is just crap |
| 20:01.24 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.25 | TomW | --------------- Primary Channel ---------------- Secondary Channel ------------- |
| 20:01.25 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:01.25 | TomW | --------------- drive0 --------- drive1 -------- drive0 ---------- drive1 ------ |
| 20:01.25 | TomW | DMA enabled: yes yes yes no |
| 20:01.25 | TomW | UDMA enabled: yes yes yes no |
| 20:01.28 | TomW | UDMA enabled: 5 5 2 X |
| 20:01.29 | TomW | UDMA |
| 20:01.32 | TomW | DMA |
| 20:01.33 | TomW | PIO |
| 20:01.38 | TomW | cat /proc/ide/piix |
| 20:02.09 | sorphin | blk: queue c036d2e4, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) |
| 20:02.09 | sorphin | hda: 120060864 sectors (61471 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=119108/16/63, UDMA(100) |
| 20:02.09 | sorphin | blk: queue c036d420, I/O limit 4095Mb (mask 0xffffffff) |
| 20:02.09 | sorphin | hdb: 120060864 sectors (61471 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=7473/255/63, UDMA(100) |
| 20:02.18 | sorphin | those blk lines are new w/ .20 |
| 20:02.25 | TomW | k |
| 20:02.47 | sorphin | mini spam |
| 20:02.48 | sorphin | -------------------drive0----drive1----drive2----drive3----- |
| 20:02.48 | sorphin | Transfer Mode: UDMA UDMA UDMA UDMA |
| 20:02.48 | sorphin | Address Setup: 30ns 30ns 30ns 30ns |
| 20:02.48 | sorphin | Cmd Active: 90ns 90ns 90ns 90ns |
| 20:02.48 | sorphin | Cmd Recovery: 30ns 30ns 30ns 30ns |
| 20:02.50 | sorphin | Data Active: 90ns 90ns 90ns 90ns |
| 20:02.52 | sorphin | Data Recovery: 30ns 30ns 30ns 30ns |
| 20:02.54 | sorphin | Cycle Time: 20ns 20ns 60ns 60ns |
| 20:02.55 | TomW | it is still compiling, will let you know abt the results. |
| 20:02.56 | sorphin | Transfer Rate: 99.9MB/s 99.9MB/s 33.3MB/s 33.3MB/s |
| 20:03.22 | sorphin | drive's 2 and 3 are dvd drives, so... |
| 20:03.27 | sorphin | won't get better than 33 even w/ good cables ;p |
| 20:03.36 | TomW | yeah |
| 20:04.44 | sorphin | interesting that it prints the cable type, tho wrong |
| 20:05.00 | sorphin | it just assumes a 40 wire since there's only udma33s on that secondary chain |
| 20:05.12 | sorphin | when there is an 80 pin cable ;p |
| 20:05.16 | sorphin | s/pin/wire/ |
| 20:07.13 | sorphin | wish i could remember the fix for this buildroot issue |
| 20:07.23 | sorphin | since the one in the topic isn't the one ;p |
| 20:09.28 | TomW | sorphin: AHH! 46MB/sec now. |
| 20:09.55 | TomW | still complains about a "resource conflict" on the ide, but it still works. |
| 20:10.45 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.46 | TomW | --------------- Primary Channel ---------------- Secondary Channel ------------- |
| 20:10.46 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:10.46 | TomW | --------------- drive0 --------- drive1 -------- drive0 ---------- drive1 ------ |
| 20:10.46 | TomW | DMA enabled: yes no no no |
| 20:10.46 | TomW | UDMA enabled: yes no no no |
| 20:10.50 | TomW | UDMA enabled: 5 X X X |
| 20:10.52 | TomW | UDMA |
| 20:10.54 | TomW | DMA |
| 20:10.56 | TomW | PIO |
| 20:11.23 | TomW | /dev/hda: |
| 20:11.23 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.23 | TomW | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.41 | sorphin | TomW: try doign what i did tho ;p |
| 20:11.47 | TomW | why!? |
| 20:11.48 | sorphin | TimRiker: you there ? |
| 20:11.59 | sorphin | TomW: heh, as proof ;p |
| 20:12.03 | TimRiker | here. sup? |
| 20:12.10 | TomW | <sob> it's working now, why fsck with it? |
| 20:12.11 | TomW | heh |
| 20:12.24 | TimRiker | what's wrong with buildroot? |
| 20:12.31 | sorphin | TimRiker: forgot the fix for this one (the thing in the topic doesn't fix this (for me anyways)) |
| 20:12.49 | sorphin | checking whether the C compiler (/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/gcc-final/gcc/xgcc -B/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/gcc-final/gcc/ -B/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/arm-linux/bin/ -B/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/arm-linux/lib/ -isystem /root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/arm-linux/include -g -Os ) works... no |
| 20:12.49 | sorphin | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 20:12.51 | sorphin | that one |
| 20:13.07 | TimRiker | that's the topic one. |
| 20:13.12 | sorphin | well |
| 20:13.15 | sorphin | i did what the topic says |
| 20:13.18 | TimRiker | erik might have changed something though. |
| 20:13.25 | sorphin | and got a bunch of file exists |
| 20:13.35 | sorphin | and the error continues |
| 20:13.41 | TimRiker | rebuild the world? |
| 20:14.01 | sorphin | bah |
| 20:14.07 | sorphin | this was a new build, fresh from cvs |
| 20:14.47 | sorphin | the topic fix just does |
| 20:14.47 | sorphin | ln: `build/stage/arm-linux/lib//crt0.o': File exists |
| 20:15.01 | sorphin | everything else is already linked |
| 20:15.24 | TomW | sorphin: no change: hdparm -c1 -d1 /dev/hda, still comes up at 46MB/sec and the drive is ok. |
| 20:15.43 | sorphin | TomW: try w/ u1 :P |
| 20:17.22 | TomW | Why use -u1, I don't see the point. |
| 20:18.38 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:18.52 | sorphin | TomW: forget it ;p |
| 20:19.05 | TomW | k |
| 20:25.07 | MonMotha | ibot seen russ|werk |
| 20:25.15 | | russ|werk is currently on #tuxscreen (8h 59m 44s) |
| 20:25.27 | MonMotha | ibot: well thanks...mind giving me his idle time? |
| 20:25.29 | | MonMotha: are you smoking crack? |
| 20:25.34 | MonMotha | or is that the idle time? |
| 20:25.38 | TomW | heh, LOL |
| 20:25.40 | MonMotha | great number without qualifications |
| 20:25.51 | MonMotha | it used to give context (last message said) and timestamp |
| 20:26.07 | TomW | MonMotha: you really must have pissed ibot off! |
| 20:26.46 | TomW | ibot seen sorphin |
| 20:26.49 | | sorphin is currently on #tuxscreen (9h 1m 18s). Has said a total of 132 messages. Is idling for 7m 57s |
| 20:27.10 | sorphin | MonMotha: umm |
| 20:27.18 | TomW | looks like ibot gave you the login time, not idle. |
| 20:27.19 | sorphin | MonMotha: ever heard of typing /whois russ|werk ? :P |
| 20:27.40 | sorphin | : idle : 20 hours 47 mins 43 secs (signon: Mon Dec 2 13:49:52 2002) |
| 20:27.46 | sorphin | :P |
| 20:28.08 | TomW | whois russ|werk |
| 20:28.12 | TomW | ? |
| 20:28.15 | sorphin | you forgot the / |
| 20:28.18 | sorphin | :P |
| 20:28.28 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.32 | TomW | doesn't do anything here. |
| 20:28.38 | sorphin | what client? :P |
| 20:28.43 | MonMotha | if they're not on the same server as you you have to use /wii |
| 20:28.45 | TomW | X-Chat |
| 20:28.57 | sorphin | MonMotha: umm |
| 20:29.02 | TomW | phfft |
| 20:29.08 | sorphin | MonMotha: i've never had to use anything other than /whois ;p |
| 20:29.25 | MonMotha | sorphin: BX might do that for you, dunno why tho as that's not the pure WHOIS command |
| 20:29.31 | MonMotha | you run WHOIS :user user |
| 20:29.38 | MonMotha | that will query the server they're on, rather than the server you're on |
| 20:30.36 | TomW | ok, I got the ide stuff working, later I'll tackle XFree and see why it insists on an 85HZ video rate. Got to run and go shopping for a shirt for tonite's party. Later. |
| 20:30.48 | sorphin | cya tom |
| 20:43.14 | TimRiker | if ibot does not report idling then he has not seen the nick talk since ibot joined. |
| 20:49.20 | file | mmm |
| 20:51.01 | sorphin | yup |
| 20:51.36 | MonMotha | TimRiker: does it still give the context line? |
| 20:51.39 | MonMotha | ibot seen monmotha |
| 20:51.43 | | monmotha is currently on #tuxscreen (9h 26m 12s) #handhelds.org (9h 26m 12s) #kiss (9h 26m 12s). Has said a total of 65 messages. Is idling for 4s |
| 20:51.56 | MonMotha | guess not |
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| 21:08.14 | sorphin | TimRiker: welp, i did a complete make distclean, make world, when it died i did the ln fromthe topic, make world again, still fails.. ideas? |
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