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| 00:28.49 | file | hi CosmicPenguin at home |
| 00:31.27 | cpenguin_home | hello file |
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| 01:32.10 | sorphin | well shit |
| 01:32.17 | sorphin | Out of Memory: Killed process 4079 (XFree86). |
| 01:32.22 | sorphin | damn thing struck anyways |
| 01:32.25 | file | reaper! |
| 01:32.36 | sorphin | "my buffer's not big enough, i think i'll kill REAL processes" :P |
| 01:32.49 | file | rewrite it so it kills low level processes instead of big stuff |
| 01:33.00 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:33.00 | sorphin | file |
| 01:33.05 | sorphin | if it were my choice |
| 01:33.14 | sorphin | 2.4's vm would be what 2.2's was :P |
| 01:33.17 | sorphin | that atleast worked |
| 01:33.20 | file | uh huh |
| 01:56.37 | cpenguin_home | wassup? |
| 01:56.51 | sorphin | nothing |
| 01:59.30 | cpenguin_home | Dangit - I want to watch Christmas Vactation, but don't have a VCR in my office |
| 01:59.49 | cpenguin_home | I have two DVD players though.... is there such a thing as having too much new technology? |
| 02:04.43 | cpenguin_home | hmmm... I wonder where POSman is tonight |
| 02:06.06 | Morn | hi Jordan |
| 02:07.28 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: off brooting i'm sure |
| 02:08.07 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: won one of the pcmcia hdd's the other someone pushed up to 71.. screw that ;p 55 was better, and there's still 2 left that end in 23 hours, so.. |
| 02:08.14 | cpenguin_home | Morn: evening |
| 02:08.35 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: those are for your tux? |
| 02:08.48 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: yup |
| 02:10.23 | cpenguin_home | If it doesn't fit in 4MB, it doesn't belong, thats what I always say |
| 02:13.09 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:13.27 | sorphin | well, it's pcmcia, so it can migrage to whatever too.. |
| 02:25.02 | cpenguin_home | So I gotta assume that something like transcode (http://www.theorie.physik.uni-goettingen.de/~ostreich/transcode/html/index.html) is outputing proper DVD streams |
| 02:25.26 | cpenguin_home | including the NAV packets in the right spots |
| 02:25.30 | cpenguin_home | right? |
| 02:27.40 | sorphin | uhh |
| 02:28.03 | sorphin | you can only assume something is outputting dvd spec video, if it has a "dvd" setting, i.e. mplex |
| 02:28.25 | cpenguin_home | well right. But it is an elementary stream, right? |
| 02:29.31 | cpenguin_home | assuming I do the programs correcty, of course... :) |
| 02:34.24 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: I think I've almost got this menu thing sorted out in my mind |
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| 02:44.39 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: if it's how it sounds |
| 02:44.50 | sorphin | make an image, shove it in the vob, link it |
| 02:49.05 | cpenguin_home | and shut up, is that what you are saying> |
| 02:50.17 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:50.17 | sorphin | no |
| 02:50.48 | sorphin | what it sounds like to me that you do from what little i've glanced at |
| 02:53.02 | cpenguin_home | Oh, yeah.... thats it. |
| 02:53.42 | cpenguin_home | The menu buttons are handed in the stream through the NAV packets. |
| 02:54.20 | cpenguin_home | So the important thing is to get the transcoder to write the NAV packets (at least dummy ones) |
| 02:54.33 | cpenguin_home | Then we can write a post processor that will insert the right packets in the right place |
| 02:54.56 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:55.00 | cpenguin_home | Then its just a matter of sticking the right cells into the MENU_PGC, and Bob is your uncle |
| 02:55.53 | cpenguin_home | Thats what I understand so far, that is |
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| 03:29.16 | cpenguin_home | Bah - you gotta pick up the phone for the new message light to flash |
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| 03:40.18 | BZFlag | hmm. so ibot needs weather ported? That should not be tough... |
| 03:40.30 | MonMotha | ibot weather kind |
| 03:40.33 | MonMotha | I'd say so :) |
| 03:41.26 | prpplague | BZFlag: i want ibot linked to ratebeer.com |
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| 04:09.04 | *** topic/#tuxscreen is #eLinux for general Embedded Linux | http://TuxScreen.net/ | Linux on your phone! | no TuxScreens and no JTAGs | gcc-final fails in current buildroot "ln -s `pwd`/build/stage/lib/* build/stage/arm-linux/lib/" | tinyx builds again |
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| 04:18.26 | cpenguin_home | Alright - so we now have a Tuxphone C++ interface... ;) |
| 04:22.11 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: scary |
| 04:22.32 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: its so I can tie it into FLTK easier |
| 04:22.41 | cpenguin_home | There is a method to my madness,though it isn't exactly obvious at this point |
| 04:24.10 | cpenguin_home | brb - gotta restart X |
| 04:24.12 | cpenguin_home | chat |
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| 04:27.37 | cpenguin_home | ok |
| 04:27.38 | cpenguin_home | better |
| 04:27.40 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: it have to do w/ being pixil'ated? |
| 04:27.41 | cpenguin_home | :) |
| 04:28.05 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: well kinda.... but mainly I want a caller ID app, and Microwin + FLTK is the best way to do that |
| 04:28.17 | cpenguin_home | Plus I can make a dialer and address book and stuff. Maybe even hook pixil to it someday |
| 04:28.18 | cpenguin_home | :) |
| 04:28.36 | sorphin | but can it make toast? *grin* |
| 04:28.41 | cpenguin_home | sure |
| 04:28.45 | cpenguin_home | why not? Its an ARM |
| 04:28.53 | cpenguin_home | Ever feel the back of an Ipaq that has been on for a few hours? |
| 04:29.06 | sorphin | never even touched an ipaq |
| 04:29.19 | sorphin | i do however, know how hot my SS20 gets w/ 2 sm71s |
| 04:33.05 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: but first, I gotta get my NAT working, so I can show my caller ID info on the root window of my desktop |
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| 04:52.21 | cpenguin_home | Ok, so the caller ID doesn't work, is that it? |
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| 05:12.09 | cpenguin_home | Sweet |
| 05:17.50 | cpenguin_home | Ok - its bed time. |
| 05:17.51 | cpenguin_home | later |
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| 13:22.38 | sorphin | Morn: morning julie |
| 13:23.02 | Morn | morning |
| 13:24.52 | sorphin | sup? |
| 13:26.02 | Morn | I need to get a new power supply for my desktop, it smelled like it would start of fire last night |
| 13:26.07 | sorphin | ugh |
| 13:26.13 | sorphin | sure it's just not the fan out ? |
| 13:26.22 | Morn | I think that is it |
| 13:26.29 | sorphin | that's an easy fix |
| 13:26.34 | Morn | really? |
| 13:26.36 | sorphin | yup |
| 13:26.40 | Morn | I'm not a hardware guru |
| 13:26.48 | sorphin | just go up to compusa or whereever local has case fans |
| 13:27.14 | sorphin | pop open the PSU |
| 13:27.47 | sorphin | if the fan is soldered on you'll have to cut the wires about mid way, and then take teh fan out that way, if it has a connector, it's easier |
| 13:28.06 | Morn | I'll have to look, it was a compusa powersupply |
| 13:28.12 | Morn | 500W |
| 13:28.50 | sorphin | you might be able to just toss a case fan in (one w/ a mb type connector), else just snip the connector off on the new fan, twist the wires together obvious how they go, electrical tape em or crimp, and off you go |
| 13:29.20 | sorphin | 1st thing tho is to pop the PSU open to see how it looks/see how the fan's connected |
| 13:29.29 | Morn | yeah |
| 13:29.58 | sorphin | any Q's i should be around all day once i get to work |
| 13:30.11 | Morn | cool |
| 13:30.12 | Morn | thanks |
| 13:30.15 | sorphin | np |
| 13:30.21 | sorphin | how fast does that hp rip dvds? |
| 13:30.39 | sorphin | i caught the PD/sony 1621 maxing out at 4.5x earlier |
| 13:31.14 | Morn | the HP does up to like 7x |
| 13:31.21 | sorphin | nod |
| 13:31.31 | Morn | one of the reasons I want to reinstall it is that |
| 13:31.44 | sorphin | i noticed the sony starts at 2.5-3x, then it it may ramp up a bit |
| 13:32.09 | sorphin | that's my only complaint w/ the drive, it's not a 'quick starter' |
| 13:32.12 | sorphin | what's funny |
| 13:32.35 | sorphin | is as the sony drive, it has mixed reviews, as the Pacific Digital drive it's rebranded as (it's an OEM sony), it has excellent ones.. |
| 13:42.47 | sorphin | the writer maxes out at 2x dvd reading |
| 13:50.18 | sorphin | Morn: heh, false advertising |
| 13:50.29 | sorphin | they say this drive will read dvds at 16x on the box, etc.. |
| 13:50.35 | sorphin | according to cdrecord: |
| 13:50.39 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.13 | Morn | I just checked it is definately the fan that died |
| 13:56.31 | sorphin | nod |
| 13:56.46 | sorphin | opened i already or just powered it up? |
| 13:56.58 | sorphin | putting in a new fan is cheaper than a new psu ;) :) |
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| 15:44.18 | CosmicPenguin | morning folks |
| 15:45.24 | sorphin | lo |
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| 15:56.19 | sorphin | and theres the resident texan |
| 15:56.21 | CosmicPenguin | The man, the myth, the legend |
| 15:56.40 | prpplague | a way of life |
| 15:57.10 | sorphin | the man, the myth, the compulsive masterbator? |
| 15:57.34 | prpplague | only as a texas computer geek can you hack code and then go outside and shoot animals |
| 15:58.38 | sorphin | prpplague: s/can you/would you want to/ |
| 15:59.11 | prpplague | sorphin: what you don't like squirel stew? |
| 15:59.44 | sorphin | i'd rather not have squirrel anything |
| 15:59.47 | prpplague | sorphin: they are really tasty this time of year |
| 16:00.33 | prpplague | sorphin: squirels are better than beef because with each "purchase" you get a free house slipper |
| 16:00.34 | sorphin | no thakns |
| 16:00.43 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:00.50 | sorphin | i'd rather eat chicken or deer |
| 16:01.50 | prpplague | no bear or rattler? |
| 16:02.02 | prpplague | my grandmother makes awesome rattler jelly |
| 16:02.23 | sorphin | umm |
| 16:02.26 | sorphin | no |
| 16:02.38 | sorphin | i don't eat/like/hold/anything snakes :P |
| 16:03.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not true - where I live, you can shoot big animals, like buffalo and moose... :) |
| 16:03.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: out you back door? |
| 16:03.34 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: plus you get a free wall hanging w/ "purchase" |
| 16:03.38 | CosmicPenguin | Well, not buffalo... But in Wyoming, moose for sure... :) |
| 16:03.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool |
| 16:04.18 | CosmicPenguin | Also, bald eagle, cyotee, and porchipine, if you were real lucky.... |
| 16:04.37 | sorphin | i wouldn't go after a bald eagle tho |
| 16:04.49 | sorphin | unless you wanna meet big bubba in prison :P |
| 16:15.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: hopefully bubba likes roasted eagle then... :) |
| 16:16.06 | prpplague | boilied eagle eggs? |
| 16:16.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's just wrong |
| 16:16.43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what did you have for Thanksgiving? |
| 16:16.59 | sorphin | not eagle :P |
| 16:17.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you heard about that indian woman that was making dream catchers from feathers she found in discarded eagle nests? |
| 16:18.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but you probably had turkey - which came real close to being our national bird..... |
| 16:18.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, you guys are a buncha turkeys ;p |
| 16:18.20 | CosmicPenguin | So my point is, its all subjective.... |
| 16:18.24 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:18.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: see sent one of the dream catchers to hilliary clinton as gift, the fbi was at her door the next day, she got sentenced to a year in jail for illegal trade of protected species |
| 16:18.51 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, what a way to say "thanks" eh? |
| 16:19.10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I thought native americans were allowed to use eagle feathers under certain circumstances.... |
| 16:19.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya as long as they stay on tribe land |
| 16:19.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if the leave or trade hands, its no longer convered |
| 16:22.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, they bought the deal with the TT stuff |
| 16:23.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if the customer signes the contract, we'll be purchasing some TT licenses |
| 16:28.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: sweet |
| 16:29.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I would think that the sales man who takes our order at least owes me lunch... :) |
| 16:29.31 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:29.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i was pretty happy that my "proof of concept" worked |
| 16:30.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, we are up against another company pushing m$ terminal server and citrix stuff |
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| 16:30.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: kinda a 50/50 chance deal |
| 16:30.53 | prpplague | BZFlag: got that head janitor title yet? |
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| 16:32.50 | sorphin | prpplague: they'd do better w/ VNC than citrix ;p |
| 16:33.09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, if you take us, you'll have direct access to an engineer that has no qualms about changing the code |
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| 16:34.20 | prpplague | lol |
| 16:34.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i figured that much,lol |
| 17:18.07 | prpplague | BZFlag: gonna be working a beer bottling plant soon? |
| 17:18.54 | prpplague | BZFlag: btw, what was the reason for spinning off snapgear? |
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| 17:19.15 | prpplague | BZFlag: they seem to be pretty profitable, i mean we buy a ton of routers from them, lol |
| 17:22.10 | prpplague | andersee: hey there BB brain |
| 17:22.31 | prpplague | hmm, that didn't sound right, lol |
| 17:22.51 | prpplague | andersee: hey ther BusyBox Brain |
| 17:22.59 | andersee | prpplague: morning purple diseased one |
| 17:23.07 | prpplague | lol |
| 17:23.52 | prpplague | andersee: hey i was wondering if there were any plans to add something like microcom to bb ? |
| 17:24.37 | andersee | prpplague: No immediate plans on my part |
| 17:24.51 | prpplague | andersee: ok thanks |
| 17:25.06 | kergoth`sick | hey andersee, prpplague, BZFlag |
| 17:25.35 | sorphin | kergoth`sick: :P |
| 17:25.43 | prpplague | andersee: are there any guidlines to determine what things should/shouldn't be added to BB? |
| 17:25.49 | kergoth`sick | sorphin: bah, you too |
| 17:25.51 | kergoth`sick | sorphin: heheh |
| 17:25.53 | kergoth`sick | whats goin on |
| 17:26.10 | sorphin | kergoth`sick: well, you didn't say hi to me, like you did the others, so you got bah'd ;p |
| 17:26.32 | prpplague | kergoth`sick: my wife is in surgery to get her dialysis chest tube replace :( |
| 17:26.54 | kergoth`sick | prpplague: ack |
| 17:27.02 | kergoth`sick | prpplague: here's hoping she gets well soon and it goes well |
| 17:27.36 | prpplague | kergoth`sick: its a degenerative problem, all down hill.... |
| 17:28.20 | prpplague | kergoth`sick: did you stay home from work? |
| 17:28.47 | kergoth`sick | yeah |
| 17:29.33 | prpplague | kergoth`sick: me too, the office is a nightmare today, about 4 ppl out, lol |
| 17:29.36 | andersee | prpplague: no fixed guidelines really. It needs to be generally useful to most people, it needs to be using busybox internals for error handling, it needs to not link vs 68 other libraries, it needs to be small... |
| 17:30.16 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: and somebody needs to write it... :) |
| 17:30.53 | andersee | :-) |
| 17:31.39 | prpplague | andersee: hmm, one of those programs that translates everthing to "redneck" would be a nice addition :) |
| 17:33.32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you could just do that in awk |
| 17:33.52 | CosmicPenguin | (ps: If you know how to do that in awk, then you probably need to get out more) |
| 17:34.38 | prpplague | an item i would really like to see is some standard method for sending/receiving fs/system updates to mobile/thinclients |
| 17:34.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
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| 17:35.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: tftp... :) |
| 17:35.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but we've already been through that |
| 17:35.21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i know |
| 17:36.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd like something a little more secure and something that could be initiated from either side |
| 17:36.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but overall something standard |
| 17:36.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: something i could count on being implemented in the same way on lots of devices |
| 17:36.45 | kergoth`sick | prpplague: good luck |
| 17:36.51 | prpplague | kergoth`sick: lol |
| 17:39.16 | prpplague | kergoth`sick: ya well, i've hacked some stuff together with tinylogin and wget, but its still not as clean as i'd like |
| 17:41.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, standard you're not gonna get |
| 17:41.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, just pipe dreams |
| 17:41.58 | CosmicPenguin | if for no other reason, then most of the people making standards have forgotten what its like to have 4MB of storage and 8MB of RAM |
| 17:43.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: something interesting that the ltsp guys are working on its network device nodes, they are using nodes on the server to connect to nodes on thinclients |
| 17:43.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: makes accessing a local floppy or cdrom via the network pretty easy |
| 17:45.25 | CosmicPenguin | like NFS? |
| 17:46.35 | CosmicPenguin | I just don't know how I feel about all that. |
| 17:46.42 | prpplague | more like on the server you'd have a /dev/tc101/fd0 or /dev/tc101/cdrom0 |
| 17:46.55 | prpplague | which actually talks to /dev/fd0 on the thinclient |
| 17:47.13 | CosmicPenguin | how is security handled? |
| 17:50.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not exactly sure, i was under the impression it used openssh somehow |
| 17:51.06 | prpplague | well gotta run, the old shoe is out of surgery..... |
| 18:02.48 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:02.52 | sorphin | "the old shoe" |
| 18:03.36 | sorphin | what is his name anyways? he's the only one who's non irc name i don't know |
| 18:04.00 | kergoth`sick | who? prpplague? |
| 18:04.26 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:04.32 | kergoth`sick | dave anders |
| 18:04.38 | kergoth`sick | ibot: prpplague |
| 18:04.38 | | prpplague is probably mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
| 18:04.41 | kergoth`sick | heh :) |
| 18:07.34 | sorphin | ah yeah |
| 18:08.11 | sorphin | looks like he almost wanted to be an anders(en) *grin* but dropped the last bit ;) |
| 18:09.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did you make your 104 region free? |
| 18:10.00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yup |
| 18:10.13 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i used the 2x4all+RPC-1 firmware |
| 18:10.33 | sorphin | any dvd drive i get, gets made region free |
| 18:11.04 | sorphin | the thinkpad's dvd drive firmware version hadn't been patched yet, so i sent them what they needed to patch it, and got it w/in a week :) |
| 18:15.43 | sorphin | don't think there is any yet |
| 18:15.59 | sorphin | the 103/104 are more stable atm |
| 18:16.04 | sorphin | and the 105 is too new |
| 18:19.35 | CosmicPenguin | Damn straight - bleeding edge |
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| 18:24.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah, so bleeding edge you won't be able to do much w/ it ;) |
| 18:28.16 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 18:28.20 | CosmicPenguin | neither can you, apparently |
| 18:29.17 | sorphin | i can, just not yet properly under linux ;p |
| 18:29.26 | sorphin | which isn't a big deal :P |
| 18:34.08 | sorphin | oh goodie.. another merger |
| 18:34.31 | sorphin | 1st it was 800.com joining w/ circuit shitty, so there went one good site |
| 18:34.38 | sorphin | now, it's cdnow w/ amazon |
| 18:34.57 | kergoth`sick | cdnow and amazon? hmm |
| 18:35.41 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:35.46 | sorphin | just got a mail about it |
| 20:04.51 | kergoth`sick | sorphin: what voltage does your parallel port need to be in order to connect to a jtag without buffering? |
| 20:05.41 | sorphin | 3.3v |
| 20:05.51 | kergoth`sick | thanks, couldnt recall |
| 20:05.58 | sorphin | only my athlon board had it out of all the boxen i have |
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| 20:09.07 | sorphin | Morn: re jules |
| 20:09.12 | Morn | re's |
| 20:09.21 | Morn | I coudldn't just get a fan |
| 20:09.24 | Morn | I had to get a new ps |
| 20:12.52 | sorphin | um... and how is that ? |
| 20:13.17 | sorphin | you didn't ASK them did you? :P |
| 20:18.58 | sorphin | Morn: did you? :P |
| 20:19.30 | CosmicPenguin | Motto of the day: Don't give `sudo` access to somebody who can't explain it to you. |
| 20:21.23 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ;) |
| 20:33.57 | Morn | sorphin: I took the dead fan in to match up |
| 20:34.00 | Morn | and they said they didn't have any |
| 20:36.03 | sorphin | riiight |
| 20:36.16 | sorphin | that's bs |
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| 20:36.21 | sorphin | it's a fscking case fan |
| 20:36.32 | sorphin | shoulda just asked where the case fans were |
| 20:36.34 | sorphin | :P |
| 20:36.51 | Morn | it's a small shop |
| 20:36.57 | Morn | most of the things aren't on display |
| 20:37.09 | Morn | with the way the weather is I couldn't drive all the way to Danbury |
| 20:37.33 | sorphin | umm |
| 20:37.46 | sorphin | small shop? i thought you went to compusa? |
| 20:37.57 | Morn | there is no compusa near by |
| 20:38.08 | Morn | I bought the powersupply at compusa a year ago |
| 20:38.18 | Morn | and we have like 4 inches of snow on the ground |
| 20:38.26 | Morn | I barely made it back up the mountian |
| 20:39.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:39.25 | sorphin | welp.. i tried to help ;p |
| 20:39.38 | Morn | tis ok |
| 20:39.48 | Morn | I'm worn out, I'm going to take a break |
| 20:43.56 | CosmicPenguin | Its a beautiful 50 degrees in Salt Lake City |
| 20:44.01 | CosmicPenguin | stupid freeking el-nino |
| 21:07.36 | signal11 | there are a few runs open here and there |
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| 21:16.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hows the wife? |
| 21:22.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: bitchy, so i guess she is back to normal |
| 21:30.43 | sorphin | prpplague: you just sound so happy ot be married to her :P "the old shoe" :P |
| 21:31.24 | prpplague | sorphin: its not a coincidence that married rymes with burried |
| 21:32.02 | sorphin | prpplague: well, you're the one that got married :P |
| 21:32.11 | sorphin | shouldn't you be talking jordan out of it more then? :P |
| 21:32.43 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, he will find out on his own |
| 21:33.02 | prpplague | sorphin: if something happens to my wife i will _never_ get married again |
| 21:33.21 | sorphin | prpplague: like the 1st time he doesn't see his paycheck, and it's NOT because of taxes? |
| 21:34.18 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, yep |
| 21:34.44 | prpplague | sorphin: <wife>whats yours is ours and whats mine is mine</wife> |
| 21:35.01 | sorphin | prpplague: wrong |
| 21:35.15 | sorphin | prpplague: <wife> what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine </wife> |
| 21:35.23 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: luckly, she's the breadwinner, so I don't have to worry about it |
| 21:35.36 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:35.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: we'll see how long that lasts ;) |
| 21:38.34 | sorphin | prpplague: <wife> now jordan, don't forget to do the dishes and take out the trash and vacuum </wife> |
| 21:38.54 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:39.11 | CosmicPenguin | Small price to pay for being able to sit around all day, drinking beer and watching Jerry Springer |
| 21:39.21 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo! |
| 21:39.59 | sorphin | riiight |
| 21:40.06 | sorphin | like she'll let you get away w/ that |
| 21:40.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: till she starts calling you a lazy fat bit!@ |
| 21:41.30 | sorphin | prpplague: she prolly already does |
| 21:41.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: next thing you know she'll want you to start dressing up for her, aka the french maid outfit |
| 21:41.37 | sorphin | rotfl |
| 21:41.46 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - like that bud light commercial... :) |
| 21:42.19 | CosmicPenguin | Hey! My fiance isn't abusive... shes just very demanding. Yeah, thats the ticket..... |
| 21:42.41 | sorphin | i wanna see what she looks like ;p |
| 21:44.01 | sorphin | prpplague: dunno if you saw, i won one of the pcmcia hdd's for 55 last night, hte other one went up to 71, so i didn't grab that one.. there's the last 2 today.. already at 56 and 58 |
| 21:44.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats her on the left: http://www.eonline.com/On/AnnaNicole/Gallery/ |
| 21:44.41 | CosmicPenguin | :-) |
| 21:47.10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: har har har |
| 21:47.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: if it really was anna nicole. i'd feel really sorry for you |
| 21:49.11 | CosmicPenguin | as do I, which makes the joke even funnier |
| 21:49.29 | CosmicPenguin | But I would definately be rich in that case, wich would be nice |
| 21:50.13 | sorphin | riiight.. |
| 21:50.22 | sorphin | that's why she is tring to marry another rich guy :P |
| 21:50.27 | sorphin | cuz she has no $ |
| 21:50.37 | sorphin | she didn't get the cash from the other guy :P |
| 21:52.03 | CosmicPenguin | She actually did - she won her court case |
| 21:53.04 | sorphin | she sure as hell don't deserve it |
| 21:53.47 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.thedenverchannel.com/sh/entertainment/stories/entertainment-20000927-194346.html |
| 21:53.50 | CosmicPenguin | Watch out for cookies |
| 21:54.10 | sorphin | <cookiemonster>mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm cookies </cookiemonster> |
| 22:09.55 | sorphin | why the hell do people actually bid so damn early |
| 22:10.01 | sorphin | and push hte price up :P |
| 22:40.50 | prpplague | argh, i hate bell south, those morons have 1/2 of their adsl networks running with a mtu of 1492 |
| 22:46.24 | sorphin | hehe |
| 22:46.48 | sorphin | i have no idea what sbc has their shit at.. all i know is i'm usually 15ms to my 1st hop |
| 22:47.03 | sorphin | file: ooh geee.. you're rich :P |
| 22:47.11 | Russ|werk | prpplague: ... |
| 22:47.16 | Russ|werk | prpplague: thats what DSL does |
| 22:47.22 | file | sorphin: eh it's a start :p |
| 22:47.42 | sorphin | file: soon you might be able to pay prpplague back for that lost TCSX-1 :P |
| 22:47.54 | file | sorphin: I never had to pay him :p and Canada took it! |
| 22:47.59 | sorphin | riiight |
| 22:48.01 | sorphin | sure they did |
| 22:48.10 | sorphin | that's what you *say* |
| 22:48.20 | file | sorphin: no, that's what he said |
| 22:48.27 | sorphin | and you believe him? |
| 22:48.30 | file | sure |
| 22:48.35 | Russ|werk | prpplague: or at least pppoe |
| 22:48.37 | sorphin | he works w/ POS devices |
| 22:48.40 | Russ|werk | because pppoe has a header on it |
| 22:49.01 | sorphin | Russ: pppoe is nasty.. tis why i'm glad i'm not forced to use it |
| 22:49.24 | Russ|werk | pppoe is a way for ISP to solve a large number of their problems |
| 22:49.30 | file | like? |
| 22:49.38 | sorphin | yeah, their customers |
| 22:49.46 | sorphin | :P |
| 22:49.53 | Russ|werk | rouge DHCP servers |
| 22:50.03 | Russ|werk | users taking other users static IP blocks |
| 22:50.20 | sorphin | Russ|werk: not possible w/ mine |
| 22:50.27 | Russ|werk | pppoe requires that users authenticate in order to receive an IP |
| 22:50.31 | sorphin | my ip block is specifically routed down my pvc |
| 22:50.43 | sorphin | no other way to touch em |
| 22:51.10 | Russ|werk | personally, I don't mind it, because linux handles pppoe very well |
| 22:51.27 | sorphin | been so long |
| 22:51.28 | Russ|werk | and iptables has an option to clamp to mss |
| 22:51.39 | sorphin | i don't even use their email server at all |
| 22:51.42 | file | Russ|werk: there's a plus on the customers side - with my ISP you can log multiple computers onto the net with a different IP address |
| 22:52.00 | sorphin | file: only because they allow that |
| 22:52.05 | sorphin | they could easily cut that |
| 22:52.07 | file | sorphin: actually they don't |
| 22:52.07 | Russ|werk | file: ah, you mean multiple computers running pppoe? |
| 22:52.12 | file | Russ|werk: yup |
| 22:52.20 | sorphin | file: ok, lemme rephrase |
| 22:52.23 | file | sorphin: your supposed to buy another connection |
| 22:52.26 | sorphin | file: if they enforced it ;p |
| 22:52.33 | Russ|werk | I just need to figure out how to make the 675 forward pppoe packets |
| 22:52.42 | Russ|werk | never been able to figure out how to do that properly |
| 22:52.59 | sorphin | not pppoe |
| 22:53.14 | sorphin | i've only used it once, when i was training on a nortel BSN |
| 22:53.23 | Russ|werk | what would be really nice is one of the ATM cards supported by linux |
| 22:53.33 | sorphin | Russ|werk: $$$ |
| 22:53.35 | file | PPPoA? |
| 22:53.37 | Russ|werk | then you get control of the other end of your connection |
| 22:53.59 | sorphin | Russ|werk: already got control here :) |
| 22:54.17 | sorphin | file: pppoa is just another alternative like pppoe |
| 22:54.25 | file | sorphin: I know |
| 22:54.33 | file | sorphin: not widely used... |
| 22:54.39 | sorphin | won't help w/o an atm nic tho ;) |
| 22:54.41 | Russ|werk | the pppo? terms are never really used properly |
| 22:54.48 | Russ|werk | pppoa is ppp over atm |
| 22:54.53 | Russ|werk | pppoe is ppp over ethernet |
| 22:54.56 | sorphin | yup |
| 22:55.02 | Russ|werk | pppox is ppp over something with authentication |
| 22:55.31 | Russ|werk | if you have a dsl modem doing bridging, the isp is doing pppoa, and your machine does pppoe (or pppox, depending on how you want to define it) |
| 22:55.43 | Russ|werk | most people are just starting to say pppox now |
| 22:55.59 | file | which my modem is doing |
| 22:56.06 | file | it's in bridging mode |
| 22:56.37 | Russ|werk | if you have an actual atm card, you can instruct the remote end to do some throddling before packets get entered into your 640k downstream |
| 22:56.45 | file | ic |
| 22:56.54 | Russ|werk | file: if the modem is doing pppox, it isn't in bridging mode... |
| 22:57.12 | file | Russ|werk: I've got telnet access to my modem - it's in bridging mode |
| 22:57.23 | Russ|werk | file: what is it bridging? |
| 22:57.29 | file | dunnp |
| 22:57.32 | file | er dunno |
| 22:57.35 | Russ|werk | probably nothing |
| 22:57.44 | Russ|werk | stats bridging wan0-0 |
| 22:57.49 | Russ|werk | stats bridging eth0 |
| 22:58.04 | file | telnet to 156.34.182.91 |
| 22:58.11 | file | it's only read-only access |
| 22:58.16 | file | Username: user |
| 22:58.18 | file | Password: user |
| 22:58.37 | file | with my luck it won't work |
| 22:58.47 | Russ|werk | I figured it was a cisco 6xx |
| 22:58.55 | file | nope |
| 22:58.57 | file | Comtrend CT-300 |
| 22:59.20 | file | not very... explored on the net |
| 22:59.44 | file | are you poking around in it? |
| 22:59.50 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 22:59.55 | file | see anything interesting? |
| 22:59.58 | Russ|werk | I don't think it gives exact bridging stats |
| 23:00.15 | Russ|werk | I basically want to make my modem disapear, no ip, etc |
| 23:00.15 | file | oh well |
| 23:00.29 | file | I'd like to get rid of my PPPoE stack |
| 23:00.41 | file | stick it on another computer to manage |
| 23:00.41 | Russ|werk | on the modem? |
| 23:00.46 | file | no - computer |
| 23:01.03 | file | BTW: that modem is a PITA |
| 23:01.05 | Russ|werk | ok, so you are running pppoe on both |
| 23:01.31 | file | when my connection goes down I have to reset the thing or else I can't contact the server |
| 23:02.10 | Russ|werk | thats another reason I want to make the cisco invisible |
| 23:02.15 | Russ|werk | it sometimes has "problems" |
| 23:02.20 | Russ|werk | and has to be power cycled |
| 23:02.43 | file | I just did a reset yesterday - came home today and was still connected though, so I didn't need to |
| 23:03.31 | Russ|werk | I don't see bridging as being enable, I don't even see where pppoa is configured |
| 23:03.44 | file | LOL |
| 23:03.48 | file | I'm not PPPoAa! |
| 23:03.52 | file | er PPPoA |
| 23:04.42 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya but usually the pppoe negotiation sets the mtu at the correct rate |
| 23:04.51 | Russ|werk | ? |
| 23:04.59 | prpplague | Russ|werk: for the dsl mtu |
| 23:05.13 | file | darn it |
| 23:05.28 | Russ|werk | the largest possible mtu if you are using pppoe is 1492 afaik...you mean they use pppoe, but still have the mtu set at 1500 (incorrect setting) |
| 23:05.40 | prpplague | Russ|werk: exactly |
| 23:05.45 | Russ|werk | ok, now I see |
| 23:06.11 | prpplague | Russ|werk: so you have to hard code all routers and such at 1492 to override the negotiated mtu |
| 23:06.52 | file | Russ|werk: are you still poking around? |
| 23:07.02 | Russ|werk | no, but the connection is still open |
| 23:07.05 | file | k |
| 23:07.24 | file | not like you could do any harm as the read-only account sucks |
| 23:07.29 | Russ|werk | I know your mac address though |
| 23:07.34 | Russ|werk | wonder if it'll reboot... |
| 23:10.01 | file | what are you doing... |
| 23:10.06 | Russ|werk | I quit |
| 23:10.14 | file | k |
| 23:22.51 | prpplague | hmm, its about beer:30 |
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