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| 00:43.31 | file | hi Russ |
| 00:43.52 | Russ | hey file |
| 00:44.32 | file | Russ: what is new in your world? |
| 00:45.01 | Russ | eh, not much |
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| 01:25.04 | file | hey CosmicPenguin at home |
| 01:25.35 | cpenguin_home | hey iback to you file |
| 01:26.17 | file | cpenguin_home: Compgeeks hasn't sent my MMC out :( |
| 01:26.44 | cpenguin_home | Bastards |
| 01:26.57 | file | it's because they were closed for many ays |
| 01:26.59 | file | er days |
| 01:27.00 | file | and took many orders |
| 01:35.01 | cpenguin_home | file: sad |
| 01:35.31 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: you around? |
| 01:35.33 | file | cpenguin_home: well I don't even know if my USB Controller was sent out... |
| 01:37.24 | cpenguin_home | file: how much of your stuff do you suppose is floating around North America at this point? |
| 01:37.36 | cpenguin_home | I mean, have you *ever* recieved anything in the mail? |
| 01:37.41 | file | cpenguin_home: yup! |
| 01:37.52 | file | ...I got my Paypal card a week ago |
| 01:37.57 | file | that's mostly it though |
| 01:37.59 | file | (recently) |
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| 02:02.23 | MonMotha | well, phil blundel helped me spot it :) |
| 02:07.11 | file | and it was? |
| 02:08.35 | MonMotha | race condition in wheaties_init |
| 02:09.18 | MonMotha | interrupt handler being set up before the message buffer was malloced, meaning that if an interrupt occured before the next part of the code finished, the offset of the buffer was 0 |
| 02:10.32 | MonMotha | hence, NULL pointer at 0 |
| 02:11.29 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: are you really not around? |
| 02:12.13 | cpenguin_home | Wierd, I ran cdrecord once - and it wouldn't let me write - but then I ran it again, and everything worked |
| 02:12.35 | cpenguin_home | It said it didn't support DVD-R (which I expected), but I was trying to do CD-R |
| 02:14.45 | file | shoot it |
| 02:15.40 | cpenguin_home | ibot: lart my cd-r |
| 02:16.01 | cpenguin_home | Wow - a little machine on machine lovin' |
| 02:16.47 | MonMotha | using "himself" is better |
| 02:16.51 | MonMotha | ibot lart himself |
| 02:21.36 | file | mmm |
| 02:22.31 | file | anybody want a PCI 56k Conexant chipset modem? |
| 02:23.12 | cpenguin_home | file: hell no... in fact, I'm trying to dump an extern modem myself |
| 02:23.52 | file | I should hook this up and see what happens |
| 02:26.50 | file | mmm RingCentral... |
| 02:27.04 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: you rang? |
| 02:33.43 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: nah, it worked out |
| 02:33.58 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: oddly, cdrecord acted evil to me the first time I ran it, but it was cool the second time |
| 02:34.06 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:34.11 | cpenguin_home | Its like it detected it as a DVD-R the first time, and a CD-R the text |
| 02:34.14 | cpenguin_home | s/text/next/ |
| 02:34.15 | sorphin | cdrecord or cdrecord-ProDVD ? |
| 02:39.51 | file | computer manufacturers are smart... they don't always put their full programs online for customers who lose their restore stuff |
| 02:42.04 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: cdrecord - this is just cd-r stuff, nothing special |
| 02:42.09 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:47.52 | file | mmm |
| 02:47.57 | file | I'm checking my e-mail and then heading to bed |
| 02:49.47 | cpenguin_home | Oops - I burned that with root permissions... :-) |
| 02:54.17 | cpenguin_home | ?? |
| 02:55.09 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: I think this menu thing could be a reality |
| 02:57.28 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: maybe, but burning correctly seems to be a prob ;p |
| 02:59.23 | sorphin | this is why i test on rw 1st w/ this crap |
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| 15:25.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ping |
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| 15:33.19 | prpplague | GPSFan: morning |
| 15:33.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: did you see i got rmk to enlighten me on the usage of the LDM,BAM and ERM |
| 15:33.48 | prpplague | GPSFan: on the LAK list? |
| 15:36.29 | prpplague | andersee: i've not been keeping with BB dev, has there been any work on including a microcom type module? |
| 15:37.04 | kergoth | hey |
| 15:37.26 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 15:37.34 | prpplague | kergoth: whats cooking today? |
| 15:37.43 | kergoth | not a damn thing, barely conscious |
| 15:37.44 | kergoth | you? |
| 15:37.49 | prpplague | kergoth: i hope your day at digi is gonna be better than mine |
| 15:38.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: pong |
| 15:38.23 | kergoth | fireman eh? fun fun |
| 15:38.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: in a political or actual sense? |
| 15:38.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey does TT for linux support transparent printing |
| 15:38.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: did you let the blue smoke out? |
| 15:38.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: funny you should say that.... :) |
| 15:39.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: political, i'm having to clean up about 15 items that the sales zombies have promisied customers |
| 15:39.40 | GPSFan | hi prpplague: |
| 15:39.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its like "how the hell do you expect me to make this happen in less than 24 hours? shit it?" |
| 15:40.26 | GPSFan | prp: no, I didn't see, i don't watch the LAK list. what's the scoop? |
| 15:42.25 | prpplague | GPSFan: LDM,BAM and ERM are for controling a third party lcd controler, only needed if you are not driving the lcd panel directly from the strongarm |
| 15:42.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: in other words, for basic stuff they just need to be turned off |
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| 15:43.52 | GPSFan | prpplague: ah, I see, the new ipaq 5000 series uses a Media-Q lcd controller, so I guess that the new kernel drivers for it will be using those bits. |
| 15:44.17 | prpplague | GPSFan: thats what i would gather |
| 15:44.49 | GPSFan | good, so tux, & your Hack-Kit are ok without them. |
| 15:45.48 | prpplague | right |
| 15:46.33 | GPSFan | prpplague: do you have any pix of your board? |
| 15:48.31 | sjhill | hi prpplague |
| 15:48.38 | sjhill | lo' GPSFan |
| 15:48.41 | sjhill | howdy sorphin |
| 15:48.44 | GPSFan | hi sjhill |
| 15:49.39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: transparent printing from what sort of device? |
| 15:51.52 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did you see? FatWallet is fighting back |
| 15:52.21 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: i think sorphin is dead |
| 15:53.58 | prpplague | sjhill: hey |
| 15:54.03 | prpplague | sjhill: whats the story? |
| 15:54.19 | sjhill | prpplague: you mean besides me looking for a job? not much |
| 15:54.25 | prpplague | GPSFan: http://hackkit.eletztrick.de/ |
| 15:54.32 | prpplague | sjhill: ya about the job |
| 15:54.38 | prpplague | sjhill: sorry to hear about that |
| 15:54.42 | sjhill | prpplague: i've been searching hard, nothing yet |
| 15:54.45 | sjhill | prpplague: thx |
| 15:54.49 | prpplague | sjhill: bummer |
| 15:55.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you need to quit, start your own production house, and hire us all to telecommute |
| 15:55.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its the perfect solution! |
| 15:56.55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, i told you i'm going to open a pub/nudie bar/open source think tank |
| 15:57.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: mmm... fat salaries and fat boobies... |
| 15:57.18 | CosmicPenguin | I like it! |
| 16:12.46 | GPSFan | prpplague: are those BGA flash chips? |
| 16:16.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you never told me what sort of transparent printing you needed |
| 16:25.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just need to receive the transparent on and then route to the lpt port |
| 16:26.23 | prpplague | GPSFan: yes i think they are |
| 16:26.31 | prpplague | GPSFan: i didn't do the actual pcb layout |
| 16:34.56 | GPSFan | prpplague: looks like a nice layout, a few cuts & jumpers, but that's to be expected. How's the Linux port, and how's the hardware working? |
| 16:36.03 | GPSFan | bbl |
| 16:37.22 | prpplague | GPSFan: fine so far, we have blob and blob-diag's working fine at 206mhz |
| 16:42.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we don |
| 16:43.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what? |
| 16:43.42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we don't handle that transparent printing at this point on the Linux side. We sort of do for TT on Windows (with a built in LPD) |
| 16:44.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but we're currently working on IBM 3278 transparent printing for Windoze. |
| 16:44.07 | CosmicPenguin | No plans currently for Linux |
| 16:45.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 16:48.53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we see to be having problems coloaborating on our terminology lately - did I answer your question? |
| 16:49.22 | sorphin | i fucking hate snow |
| 16:54.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 16:55.03 | prpplague | no snow here |
| 16:55.27 | sorphin | guess how long it took me to get to work today |
| 16:55.34 | prpplague | "if god wanted texains to feel like they have snow, he'd made cow patties white |
| 16:56.06 | sorphin | 2 1/2 hours, normally takes bout 35-40 mins |
| 16:57.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and yes i saw about fat wallet fighting back, and i hope they win. |
| 16:58.34 | prpplague | as do i |
| 17:19.03 | sorphin | see the crap about pgp8 ? |
| 17:19.14 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 17:19.25 | sorphin | and speaking of new things.. i need to go grab the RC5-72 clients :P |
| 17:20.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, wy60 function key hell! |
| 17:31.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm sure |
| 17:32.01 | sorphin | prpplague: old Wyse terminal ? |
| 17:41.43 | prpplague | sorphin: ya trying to do some emulation stuff |
| 17:42.18 | prpplague | sorphin: can you believe this, they want all these wyse terminals to view a web page on an inhouse server using lynx |
| 17:42.24 | Russ|werk | morning |
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| 17:47.22 | prpplague | morning Russ|werk TomW_ |
| 17:48.02 | TomW_ | mornin' |
| 17:48.36 | TomW_ | 32 built, 78 more boards to go.. |
| 17:49.36 | sorphin | prpplague: um... i have but one thing to say... WHY? :P |
| 17:50.00 | kergoth | hm |
| 17:51.39 | sorphin | what're you hm'in at digiboy? |
| 17:52.00 | kergoth | trying to figure out how to get my ass out of tech support, thats what |
| 17:52.01 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:52.13 | sorphin | won't happen |
| 17:52.23 | prpplague | sorphin: they got this stupid in house pricing stuff that is web based only |
| 17:52.40 | kergoth | sorphin: fucker |
| 17:52.49 | sorphin | kergoth: that's like saying prpplague won't ever have to work with another piece of POs equipment ever again ;p |
| 17:53.48 | prpplague | sorphin: bastard |
| 17:54.01 | sorphin | yup |
| 17:54.21 | sorphin | hey, not like i don't have it just as bad :P |
| 17:55.50 | TomW_ | kergoth: digikey? |
| 17:56.09 | kergoth | TomW_: nope, digi international, aka digiboard |
| 17:56.19 | sorphin | aka serialportmongers ;) |
| 17:56.24 | kergoth | heheh |
| 17:56.33 | TomW_ | kergoth: yeah, got a few of those multi serial boards here. |
| 17:57.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the F1 key is 0x01 A 0x0a but the 0x0a is no getting intercepted as a CR |
| 17:57.49 | TomW_ | I think I got one or two left over from a project about 4 years ago. I forgot to return them to the customer... :-/ |
| 17:58.01 | sorphin | TomW_: they make good kindling ;) |
| 17:58.28 | TomW_ | sorphin: yeah, I thought they'd be useful.. they are, they take up space. |
| 17:58.38 | TomW_ | sorphin: on the shelf |
| 17:59.05 | sorphin | any sharp edges at all? make good weapons ;) |
| 17:59.11 | TomW_ | heh |
| 17:59.24 | sorphin | bout all they're good for ;) |
| 17:59.29 | TomW_ | lots of chips on the boards. |
| 17:59.44 | TomW_ | maybe I will keep them to rob parts off of 'em some day? |
| 18:00.18 | TomW_ | hmmm, maybe e-bay them? |
| 18:03.03 | sorphin | both possibilities |
| 18:05.51 | sorphin | shesh |
| 18:05.55 | sorphin | talk about a power seller |
| 18:06.07 | sorphin | 1174 positive feedbacks in the last 7 days |
| 18:06.33 | sorphin | total feedbacks, over 24,xxx |
| 18:06.36 | TomW_ | time to start squeezing solder paste onto boards. |
| 18:07.01 | sorphin | TomW_: i heard it's good on toast too *grin* |
| 18:07.16 | TomW_ | :P |
| 18:14.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 18:14.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm doing some testing with TT for linux |
| 18:14.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm getting an error "can't find term.cmd" |
| 18:18.30 | Russ|werk | TT? |
| 18:18.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how did you install it? |
| 18:19.20 | CosmicPenguin | tarball or RPM? |
| 18:19.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: per the instruction and install script, tarball |
| 18:20.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nm, found the problem, no path set for /usr/local/term |
| 18:20.08 | CosmicPenguin | wait a sec |
| 18:20.14 | CosmicPenguin | dammit |
| 18:21.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: one more thing, how do you use the function keys? |
| 18:21.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hold on a sec |
| 18:30.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, the readme references a TERM manual |
| 18:31.33 | prpplague | its that available in electronic format? |
| 18:49.50 | prpplague | Russ|werk: TinyTerm |
| 18:56.13 | prpplague | anyone know the console based version of xev? |
| 18:57.12 | Morn | re's |
| 19:07.37 | sorphin | Morn: lo julie |
| 19:08.10 | sorphin | cool |
| 19:08.45 | Morn | I needed to keep the cost down, and I compromised on the processor, but a good deal overall |
| 19:11.01 | sorphin | what is it ? |
| 19:12.52 | Morn | I got a discontinued Gateway |
| 19:13.03 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:13.08 | sorphin | i meant the specs |
| 19:13.27 | Morn | Celeron 1.33Ghz 256MB 30GB DVD/CD-RW |
| 19:13.34 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:13.43 | sorphin | faster than my ibm |
| 19:13.56 | sorphin | tho, my ibm's faster than it was since i foudn the damn trick to speedstep ;p |
| 19:13.57 | Morn | $899 |
| 19:14.27 | sorphin | even at that price, i, for me, wouldn't buy it |
| 19:14.33 | sorphin | but i don't like gateway tho |
| 19:14.35 | Morn | I'm reformating the harddrive to make space for linux |
| 19:14.52 | Morn | I didn't have much choice, I needed a new laptop for school and a specific budget |
| 19:14.57 | Morn | plus I HATE thinkpads |
| 19:15.01 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:15.07 | sorphin | the new ones aren't bad |
| 19:15.13 | sorphin | the 600s were |
| 19:15.43 | Morn | I had a 755 around 1994-5 |
| 19:15.47 | Morn | It drove me nuts |
| 19:16.01 | sorphin | well |
| 19:16.30 | sorphin | i've had -0- probs w/ the a21p (other than my not reading what settings meant what for speedstep, but that's intel's damn fault) |
| 19:17.00 | sorphin | disabling speedstep should NOT put it at lowest speed, it should fscking turn off speedstep and make the proc run NORMAL |
| 19:17.00 | Morn | well, I don't like that knobby mouse thing |
| 19:17.02 | sorphin | but noooooooo |
| 19:17.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:17.05 | Morn | I like touch pads |
| 19:17.12 | sorphin | i prefer that nubby mouse thing |
| 19:17.30 | sorphin | damn touch pads always think i'm clicking when i'm not |
| 19:19.07 | Morn | so other than the processor not a bad deal |
| 19:19.19 | Morn | and the fact that it came with XP Home pre-installed |
| 19:19.32 | sorphin | heh "other than the proc not a bad deal" ? |
| 19:19.52 | sorphin | that thing's faster than any of the machines i have |
| 19:19.58 | sorphin | and it's a damn laptop ;p |
| 19:20.26 | Morn | my other laptop is literally falling apart |
| 19:20.36 | Morn | pieces fall out when you move it |
| 19:21.23 | Morn | and the ram was going bad, I couldn't even compile with gcc |
| 19:21.36 | Morn | and in evolution if I tried to do anything serious it crashed X |
| 19:21.38 | Morn | sigh |
| 19:28.53 | Russ|werk | I have my sony celery 400 |
| 19:29.07 | Russ|werk | need to find another cpu module and a second battery |
| 19:31.51 | Russ|werk | I got it for cheap (free), only had to get a screen and battery |
| 19:32.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:32.52 | sorphin | Russ: ok file jr :P |
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| 19:38.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: sorry, I had stuff hapenning |
| 19:39.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no manual in electronic form |
| 19:39.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: as for the function keys, they should work unless you are A) telneting/sshing to a box, and *then* running term, or b) if you are at the connect to: prompt |
| 19:39.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: A) is a design flaw with remote connections, and B) is annoying, but apparently, "thats how our clients want it" |
| 19:41.34 | Russ|werk | sorphin: what? its a good laptop |
| 19:42.01 | Russ|werk | even the modem works |
| 19:42.02 | sorphin | Russ|werk: i was talking about the "free" part ;p |
| 19:42.24 | Russ|werk | oh, ya, when I got it for free, screens for it were going for around $1000 |
| 19:42.34 | Russ|werk | but I waited a while, and got one for a little under $200 |
| 19:43.06 | Russ|werk | er, sorry, its a PIII-450, not a celery 400 |
| 19:45.39 | sorphin | well, now that i got speedstep sorted out, my 850 seems faster than my damn athlon 1ghz |
| 19:46.53 | sorphin | i hate sourcefuckup |
| 19:47.04 | jacques | you mean sourcescourge? |
| 19:47.04 | sorphin | even the mirrors suck now |
| 19:47.10 | sorphin | that too |
| 19:47.16 | jacques | i know how you feel |
| 19:47.31 | CosmicPenguin | Its a good idea that didn't scale |
| 19:47.31 | sorphin | unc's gotten ungodly slow as of late |
| 19:47.47 | jacques | amn was missing files last time I tried them |
| 19:47.49 | CosmicPenguin | geez, I wonder why - since they give everything away for FREE |
| 19:47.50 | jacques | umn |
| 19:48.00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
| 19:48.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: don't you have some pixil for finish? ;) |
| 19:49.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, well, since its for free also, its on the all important "whenever I want to" schedule |
| 19:49.15 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:49.28 | sorphin | ok, s/pixil/some important pressing work/ |
| 19:49.51 | CosmicPenguin | Nope - actually my assignment this week is to sit here and irritate you |
| 19:49.55 | jacques | lol |
| 19:50.04 | CosmicPenguin | I would say my performance review up to now is exceeding expectations |
| 19:50.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you're not doing a very good job of it ;) |
| 19:50.53 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: actually, I'm gonna start looking at the menu stuff again |
| 19:51.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, if we can't even burn correctly |
| 19:51.14 | sorphin | menus won't matter ;) |
| 19:51.37 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: There are people who are burning correctly, for example.... http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/ |
| 19:51.40 | CosmicPenguin | Its not like its impossible |
| 19:52.07 | sorphin | never said it was |
| 19:52.15 | sorphin | however |
| 19:52.25 | sorphin | following the steps on that one page |
| 19:52.37 | CosmicPenguin | I want to figure out how to combine several mpeg streams into a VOB |
| 19:52.39 | CosmicPenguin | Thats my goal for today |
| 19:52.49 | sorphin | i mkiso'd w/ the proper mkisofs (cept there is no -dvd-vidoe option, just UDF) |
| 19:52.59 | sorphin | then burn |
| 19:53.02 | sorphin | it burned ok |
| 19:53.04 | sorphin | put into dvd player |
| 19:53.07 | CosmicPenguin | And, I want to find a DVD that has a less complicated menu system |
| 19:53.12 | sorphin | dvd playe rsees it's a dvd, but that's all |
| 19:53.18 | file | well I gotta go mail something. |
| 19:53.20 | sorphin | umm |
| 19:53.20 | CosmicPenguin | how many dvd players did you try it in? |
| 19:53.31 | CosmicPenguin | Did it work in the burner itself? |
| 19:53.46 | sorphin | does if burned w/ nero ;p |
| 19:53.59 | sorphin | in the dvd player, and both readers |
| 19:54.14 | sorphin | burned under linux, it's shite |
| 19:54.19 | sorphin | on the same disc |
| 19:57.31 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: lets give up then. Where's my win2k disc? |
| 19:58.21 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:59.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: thought XP was your windows of choice ;p |
| 19:59.34 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: only at home |
| 19:59.52 | CosmicPenguin | I dig the look - it makes me feel comfortable |
| 20:00.20 | sorphin | uh huh |
| 20:00.33 | sorphin | prpplague prolly like how longhorn looks ;p |
| 20:00.48 | sorphin | damn texans |
| 20:04.34 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
| 20:04.40 | sorphin | from the looks of what dvdrip says |
| 20:04.46 | sorphin | they rip and burn svcd/vcd :P |
| 20:04.49 | sorphin | not dvd again |
| 20:10.47 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what do I care? I'm already reformatting my hard drive |
| 20:11.12 | sorphin | you're not serious |
| 20:21.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, as best i can tell, all the functions are connected to menu stuff |
| 20:21.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i must be issuing the term command incorrectly |
| 20:22.41 | jacques | i need to sniff a switched net |
| 20:23.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whats on your screen |
| 20:24.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: when i issue term i get a menu across the top |
| 20:25.38 | CosmicPenguin | there you go |
| 20:27.03 | file | my post office forgot to charge me for sending a parcel via Express to the US |
| 20:27.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: but thats not what i want |
| 20:27.54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i want the function keys to function just like they do on a wyse60 |
| 20:28.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: term is useless if the function can't be used |
| 20:30.00 | sorphin | file: uhh.. how can they forget to charge you? you have to pay right there |
| 20:30.22 | file | sorphin: they stuck everything on my parcel and said "Bye" then I left |
| 20:30.28 | file | I did go back and pay for it though |
| 20:30.29 | sorphin | jacques: get a sniffer or do it on the switch |
| 20:30.59 | file | I walked in and she was like, "What - couldn't stay away?" but then I said "you forgot to charge me" which she combated with "oh right... I would have remembered" |
| 20:31.14 | file | sorphin: how long did it take for your thing to get there Xpresspost USA? |
| 20:32.06 | sorphin | file: umm.. few daysish |
| 20:33.51 | file | sorphin: k |
| 20:40.46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ahhh, I see |
| 20:40.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, you're screwed... :( |
| 20:41.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you were joking, right? :P |
| 20:41.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, why no function key support? thats aweful |
| 20:41.22 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no way, man. I'm tierd of this crappy kernel with its stupid mascot |
| 20:41.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: does term for linux support remapping of keys? |
| 20:41.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, there is function key support, but you would need to remap the keys |
| 20:41.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 20:42.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the physical F keys are spoken for |
| 20:42.26 | sorphin | ~fishslap cosmicpenguin |
| 20:42.27 | | ACTION slaps cosmicpenguin up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 20:42.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: right but could i remap the numpad? |
| 20:43.55 | AlHaz | sorphin: Stupid question - have you consulted vcdhelp.com wrt which kinds of media your dvd player supports? |
| 20:44.37 | sorphin | AlHaz: yes, if you're refering to the burning problem, i'm using the exact same disc i used to burn this movie w/ nero (it's a rw disc :P ) |
| 20:45.09 | sorphin | something w/ the mkisofs or the cdrecord-ProDVD session was wrong |
| 20:45.18 | sorphin | cuz the player saw it as a dvd |
| 20:45.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yes you could |
| 20:45.30 | sorphin | flipped to searching, then still, the timed out |
| 20:46.03 | sorphin | unless dumping it from ntfs hosed it, but the driver didn't report any errors in the xfer |
| 20:46.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did you try to run it with a linux DVD program - that would give you lots more debug messages |
| 20:46.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is the wy60 emulation fully implemented? i.e. the reprogram keys escape codes work? |
| 20:47.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: like vlc ? |
| 20:47.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: or ogle |
| 20:47.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm not entirely sure |
| 20:47.40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i thought term for linux was your code? |
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| 20:47.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not from scratch its not |
| 20:47.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 20:48.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but if you call up today, and promise to buy 150 copies if we fix wy60 - I'll be the one doing the coding |
| 20:48.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you know of any other embeddable wyse emulators? |
| 20:48.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this is more like 1k copies |
| 20:48.52 | CosmicPenguin | the program you showed me yesterday didn't work? |
| 20:48.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 20:49.00 | sorphin | vlc: ifo_read.c:421: ifoRead_VTS: Assertion `vtsi_mat->vtsi_last_sector*2 <= vtsi_mat->vts_last_sector' failed. |
| 20:49.00 | sorphin | Aborted |
| 20:49.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the program keys escape codes don't appear to be working |
| 20:49.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: apparently this legacy app reprograms the function keys on the fly |
| 20:49.47 | CosmicPenguin | damn.... |
| 20:51.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, the program we talked about yesterday has nice support for transparent printing |
| 20:51.20 | sorphin | [/clear |
| 20:51.22 | sorphin | grr |
| 20:52.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: term also has transparent printing for wy60 |
| 20:55.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i thought you said it wasn't supported? |
| 20:55.11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I liked |
| 20:55.15 | CosmicPenguin | s/liked/lied/ |
| 20:55.18 | prpplague | ohh |
| 20:55.41 | CosmicPenguin | You're killing me here man.... :) |
| 20:57.48 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: might wanna just clone yourself, or have a maniquin made of yourself to respond to all these term Q's ;) |
| 20:58.07 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm just trying to keep my job... :) |
| 20:58.33 | prpplague | sorphin: hey, i'm a potential customer :) |
| 20:58.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: afraid prp will call in again? ;) |
| 20:59.14 | sorphin | prpplague: well, you're a wcom customer too, but do you see me caring? *grin* |
| 20:59.33 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: as long as he doesn't admit that he knows me, we'll be ok |
| 20:59.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: does anyone admit to that? *grin* |
| 21:00.24 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: gladly, they don't |
| 21:00.30 | sorphin | jordan who? i don't know any jordan |
| 21:00.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: and thats why they're my friends... :) |
| 21:00.54 | sorphin | indeed |
| 21:01.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its an absolute NO on the function key reprogramming |
| 21:01.25 | sorphin | prpplague: just tell them to toss the fscking Wyse's and get something that works :P |
| 21:01.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: definately not implemented |
| 21:02.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok |
| 21:02.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't see how anyone could use term without function key capabilities |
| 21:03.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: they just redefine the menus to something else |
| 21:03.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the scripting language is the biggest seller |
| 21:06.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: for example, check out /usr/local/term/wp50.cmd |
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| 21:10.56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok so the menu functions can be remapped to alt keys, if that is done how are the normal function keys handled? |
| 21:13.56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I think that they will then work as advertised - though in most cases you would probably end up re-maping them too |
| 21:14.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, if i want to refer to the standard f keys in the script what is the context? |
| 21:14.31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lemme do a test |
| 21:15.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nm, found it |
| 21:15.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ktest.cmd works nicely |
| 21:18.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok one more question and i'll leave you alone |
| 21:18.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all i need to place on a thin client would be the term binary and my command script? |
| 21:18.52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my freeking alt keys don't work |
| 21:19.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep - the term binary is static |
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| 21:20.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what about licensing code? |
| 21:20.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: make me an offer.... j/k |
| 21:21.21 | file | my MMC got shipped out half an hour ago |
| 21:21.32 | sorphin | file: that's nice |
| 21:21.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: seriously, call in and tell them what you want. Remember that number I gave you before? |
| 21:21.50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the worse they can do is say no. |
| 21:22.05 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: and whats more, you know who will be doing your development |
| 21:22.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 21:22.31 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: doesn't Wcom give you a phone? |
| 21:22.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:22.55 | sorphin | no |
| 21:23.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm allowed to emulate as many terminals as I want, free of charge.... :) |
| 21:23.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya, i'll do a couple more tests and see if its gonna work |
| 21:23.06 | sorphin | and this was my final balance w/ tmobile :P |
| 21:23.22 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: https://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=3456&group_id=5776#ss7.8 |
| 21:23.37 | CosmicPenguin | good howto from the mpg2enc folks |
| 21:24.25 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm especially interested in how to combine a set of stills and/or video into a single vob |
| 21:24.36 | sorphin | nod |
| 21:24.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: and not only that, but to be able to know which is which - so I can point a menu at a particular cell |
| 21:25.48 | sorphin | this howto is cute, but focuses on + |
| 21:25.59 | sorphin | and growisofs doesn't apply to - |
| 21:26.13 | sorphin | atleast that's what the other howto said |
| 21:26.25 | sorphin | they need to make up their mind ;) |
| 21:27.47 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm going off of what dvdauthor does as far as that is concerned |
| 21:28.10 | sorphin | nod |
| 21:28.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, your wy60 emulation even supports dynamic reprogramming of the function keys |
| 21:30.08 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's nice, except dvdauthor doesn't say what to do |
| 21:30.21 | sorphin | Also these tools do not deal with generating a UDF image. This can be |
| 21:30.24 | sorphin | done with cdrtools. Find a version that supports thd DVD format --...... |
| 21:30.41 | sorphin | been there |
| 21:30.44 | sorphin | done that |
| 21:31.01 | sorphin | generates an iso that is mountable as udf or iso9660 |
| 21:31.10 | sorphin | the image "looks" ok |
| 21:31.19 | sorphin | but obviously either isn't or is burning wrong |
| 21:32.35 | CosmicPenguin | but that error message implies that the .IFO is incorrect |
| 21:33.12 | sorphin | file: fi:E tu es tres stupide ;p |
| 21:33.16 | sorphin | wtf |
| 21:33.21 | sorphin | damn bx |
| 21:33.32 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: what error ? |
| 21:33.47 | CosmicPenguin | <sorphin> vlc: ifo_read.c:421: ifoRead_VTS: Assertion `vtsi_mat->vtsi_last_sector*2 <= vtsi_mat->vts_last_sector' failed. |
| 21:34.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: funny how when i burn the exact files that i'm using now w/ nero, it burns fine and plays fine |
| 21:34.29 | sorphin | only thing i can think of then |
| 21:34.43 | sorphin | is the xfer from the ntfs drive hosed it up somehow |
| 21:34.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but are you burning the exact same .IFO? |
| 21:34.53 | sorphin | yes |
| 21:34.59 | sorphin | every file is the same |
| 21:35.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: oh, I thought you were generating new ifos. Sorry |
| 21:35.22 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: diff? |
| 21:35.26 | file | oh my, Compgeeks is b0rken |
| 21:35.39 | sorphin | file: non, as i said |
| 21:35.48 | sorphin | file: tu es tres stupide :P |
| 21:35.58 | file | sorphin: that's an incorrect statement |
| 21:36.02 | sorphin | nope |
| 21:36.08 | sorphin | it's quite correct :P |
| 21:36.19 | CosmicPenguin | children, please..... |
| 21:36.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i guess i'll try that |
| 21:39.15 | sorphin | sometimes, i hate diff |
| 21:39.22 | sorphin | diff: extra operand |
| 21:39.24 | CosmicPenguin | n a live chat on Home Theater Forum, Peter Staddon of 20th Century Fox said that they expect to get The Complete Third Season DVD boxed set out in May 2003. |
| 21:39.27 | sorphin | my ass there is |
| 21:39.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: of.... |
| 21:40.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: oops, sory. The Simpsons |
| 21:40.15 | sorphin | ah |
| 21:40.40 | sorphin | prolly already out in the uk :P |
| 21:40.55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: actually not yet. |
| 21:41.28 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: actually, May is probably the UK date |
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| 21:41.59 | sorphin | allo tim |
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| 21:42.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: since diff won't cooperlate |
| 21:43.09 | sorphin | and while i do that, i guess i'll grab the damn rc5 clients now |
| 21:43.56 | CosmicPenguin | I'm gonna try to make the IFOs from scratch |
| 21:44.17 | sorphin | glad they give us a RW w/ it ;) |
| 21:45.01 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: are you saying that it was mandatory for you to do the ac3 audio? |
| 21:45.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: from everything i read |
| 21:54.58 | sorphin | either have ot have ac3 or pcm |
| 21:55.05 | sorphin | then can have mpeg as optional |
| 21:55.22 | sorphin | according to everything i've read... doesn't mean that you might not be able to get away w/ just mpeg |
| 21:55.26 | sorphin | haven't gotten to check yet |
| 21:57.26 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: got it |
| 21:58.15 | sorphin | you're more than welcome to test it :) |
| 21:58.25 | sorphin | all the better if we don't need ac3 |
| 21:58.35 | sorphin | converting is annoying and then remuxing |
| 22:00.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm leaving that to you |
| 22:00.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: my goal is menus, baby |
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| 22:07.05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, they won't matter if you burn it and it don't work ;) |
| 22:07.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, you mentioned that |
| 22:09.06 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: menus, bah.. all you need is gimp and a hexeditor :P |
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| 22:11.06 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: fyi, md5sums match |
| 22:11.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so the files are ok, gotta be the burn or the image |
| 22:13.57 | sorphin | good luck on your burn/generating :) |
| 22:14.43 | CosmicPenguin | heh.... thanks |
| 22:16.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks like i got it working |
| 22:17.03 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 22:21.11 | sorphin | prpplague: using the darkest POS voodoo black magicks? |
| 22:21.31 | file | sorphin: he actually... read the manual!! |
| 22:22.24 | sorphin | file: i doubt that |
| 22:22.55 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, its called RTFM |
| 22:23.14 | file | I was right :p |
| 22:23.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how did you RTFM? |
| 22:23.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the term.hlp has a complete reference |
| 22:23.34 | CosmicPenguin | And I work here! |
| 22:23.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: even some interesting remarks including "NOTE: this is undocumented" |
| 22:23.56 | file | bbl |
| 22:24.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you need one of those shirts that says "I don't work here" |
| 22:24.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: kudos to you... :) |
| 22:25.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: now if i can convince my boss to buy some |
| 22:25.45 | prpplague | :(] |
| 22:33.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you predict issues? |
| 22:34.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I can't promise you anything, but I would expect that at 1k+ quantities, the price should drop dramatically |
| 22:34.47 | CosmicPenguin | And if it doesn't then our sales plan is screwed up |
| 22:37.04 | prpplague | lol |
| 22:37.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well, we've been using OS for awhile now, its gonna be hard to explain why we need a proprietary solution |
| 22:38.35 | sorphin | prpplague: cuz there isn't a good enough OS solution? |
| 22:39.31 | prpplague | sorphin: no, because there isn't enough time to implement what they want in 24 hours |
| 22:39.42 | sorphin | or that |
| 22:39.50 | sorphin | that's all you really have to explain |
| 22:40.18 | sorphin | how much you think a: Toshiba 2.0GB PCMCIA HDD should go for ? |
| 22:40.31 | andersee | sorphin: $10 |
| 22:40.44 | sorphin | andersee: i'm being serious, erik |
| 22:40.56 | andersee | sorphin: I dunno, check ebay |
| 22:41.02 | sorphin | i am :P |
| 22:41.11 | sorphin | i was seeing if anyone here had opinion :P |
| 22:41.19 | sorphin | cuz i'm watching 4 of em |
| 22:41.22 | prpplague | sorphin: 2gb? is it a micro-thin drive? |
| 22:41.42 | sorphin | the whole thing plugs into the slot |
| 22:42.20 | sorphin | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31567&item=2077516930&rd=1 |
| 22:42.22 | Russ|werk | at least 14 camels |
| 22:42.23 | sorphin | that's one of em |
| 22:42.28 | prpplague | sorphin: ohh you said pcmcia, i can't imagin more than $75 |
| 22:42.39 | sorphin | prpplague: k |
| 22:42.49 | sorphin | highest of em so far is 56 |
| 22:44.06 | sorphin | as long as it's not like the damn ibm laptop HD's i bought back i nthe day ;p |
| 22:44.09 | sorphin | i'll be fine |
| 22:44.23 | sorphin | one was hosed, so i returned it to the guy |
| 22:44.25 | sorphin | he sends another |
| 22:44.36 | sorphin | fscking thing sounds like a siren (literally) |
| 22:46.41 | sorphin | least these are new so i shouldn't have that prob |
| 22:46.53 | sorphin | damn other drives were OEM'd... from PB... *shiver* |
| 22:46.58 | sorphin | so ibm wouldn't touch eh |
| 22:53.59 | Morn | ibot: weather 06776 |
| 22:54.58 | sorphin | Morn: the new ibot don't work w/ that |
| 22:55.17 | Morn | ah |
| 22:55.36 | Morn | it's SOOOO cold right now |
| 22:55.42 | sorphin | it's 25 here |
| 22:55.45 | sorphin | and still snowing i think |
| 22:56.28 | Morn | 22 here |
| 22:57.22 | sorphin | Morn: you can have our snow ;p |
| 22:57.31 | Morn | with a wind chill putting it at 10 |
| 22:57.44 | sorphin | WC 16 here |
| 23:07.31 | Morn | It turns out I have to put a hack into the source of XFree86 to get my video card to run on the gateway laptop |
| 23:07.44 | Morn | for some reason linux only thinks it has 1Meg of video ram |
| 23:07.47 | file | Morn: evil |
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| 23:46.03 | prpplague | i'm out of here guys |
| 23:46.17 | prpplague | had all the fun i can stand with tiny torture today |
| 23:48.42 | CosmicPenguin | See, that wasn't very nice |
| 23:48.49 | CosmicPenguin | That wasn't designed to make me feel good |