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| 01:16.45 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 01:21.29 | Morn | re's |
| 01:21.41 | sorphin | sup? |
| 01:22.00 | Morn | just reading some forums on the pvr card |
| 01:22.33 | kergoth | hey morn, sorphin |
| 01:22.48 | sorphin | allo chris |
| 01:25.37 | sorphin | kergoth: sup ? |
| 01:25.46 | kergoth | nada |
| 01:25.48 | kergoth | sick |
| 01:25.51 | kergoth | you? |
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| 01:51.56 | sorphin | lo jordo |
| 01:55.11 | CosmicPenguin | evening |
| 01:55.38 | CosmicPenguin | can't talk .... simpsons .... |
| 01:56.27 | sorphin | hmm |
| 02:02.38 | as_ | You laugh so much you get lockjaw? |
| 02:04.57 | CosmicPenguin | Good stuff |
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| 02:11.37 | as_ | We get them about 5 years behind here. |
| 02:12.05 | sorphin | as_: but you get everything else 1st :P |
| 02:12.20 | sorphin | you have more seasons of buffy on dvd avail already than we do |
| 02:12.26 | as_ | Everything else? |
| 02:12.41 | as_ | Thats interesting. And very strange. |
| 02:13.33 | as_ | Usually its people over here that order DVDs from the US so they can have a film at home before anyone here has had a chance to see it in the cinima. |
| 02:14.02 | CosmicPenguin | NOt at all - most of the popular shows are still in syndication here |
| 02:14.20 | CosmicPenguin | And most people won't make DVDs of shows while they are still in syndication (at least in 1st syndication) |
| 02:14.33 | sorphin | yah |
| 02:15.05 | as_ | I think I half know what syndication is, but its at this point you have to tell me so I dont sound like an idiot when I next put a line. |
| 02:15.51 | CosmicPenguin | Its basically the scheme under which shows are rebroadcast on various channels |
| 02:16.08 | CosmicPenguin | basically, they sell the rights to the show to a particular local channel, and they have the right to replay the shows |
| 02:16.32 | sorphin | like TNN w/ STNG |
| 02:17.04 | as_ | Hmm. |
| 02:17.26 | as_ | Hmm = Oh dear that wasnt what I thought it was so Id better shut up. |
| 02:18.14 | as_ | Most films are very slow to the cinima here, so that could be different. |
| 02:18.39 | CosmicPenguin | Thats just a language / formatting thing really |
| 02:18.59 | sorphin | as_: kinda funny |
| 02:19.04 | sorphin | since harry potter 2 |
| 02:19.06 | sorphin | was there 1st |
| 02:19.09 | sorphin | :P |
| 02:19.20 | sorphin | hence where i got the CAM version |
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| 02:19.46 | as_ | Re. |
| 02:19.51 | sorphin | as_: last thing you saw? |
| 02:20.02 | as_ | <CosmicPenguin> Thats just a language / formatting thing really |
| 02:20.11 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - but then again, HP is an completely english thing |
| 02:20.26 | as_ | HP? |
| 02:20.28 | sorphin | <sorphin> as_: kinda funny |
| 02:20.28 | sorphin | <sorphin> since harry potter 2 |
| 02:20.28 | sorphin | <sorphin> was there 1st |
| 02:20.28 | sorphin | <sorphin> :P |
| 02:20.28 | sorphin | <sorphin> hence where i got the CAM version |
| 02:20.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: not "completely english" by fanbase |
| 02:21.06 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I mean as far as the production of the movie |
| 02:21.31 | sorphin | true |
| 02:21.32 | as_ | Harry potter was written by a brit who insisted only brits be in it, which is probably the buggest thing any author has done for this country. |
| 02:21.45 | as_ | Err, Biggest. |
| 02:22.18 | CosmicPenguin | Except for some bloke named William Shakesphere? |
| 02:22.28 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: spell Shakesphere |
| 02:22.28 | | possible spellings for Shakesphere: Shake sphere Shake-sphere |
| 02:22.52 | as_ | He spelt his own name 11 different ways. |
| 02:23.44 | as_ | I think if hollywood had been up and about, hed have moved in about a heartbeat. |
| 02:24.31 | as_ | Usually we get films last, and pay more for them. |
| 02:24.39 | sorphin | as_: he'd ? |
| 02:24.56 | as_ | Will. |
| 02:25.01 | sorphin | hollywood didn't exist in shakespheres time :P |
| 02:25.04 | as_ | Same with electronics etc. |
| 02:25.14 | as_ | Err, that was rather my point. |
| 02:25.29 | CosmicPenguin | my Simpsons review - some funny parts, OK writing, poor ending |
| 02:26.01 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: I'll agree |
| 02:26.49 | as_ | Family guy is airing on sat here, its a lot more willing to go weird for the sake of jokes. |
| 02:27.31 | sorphin | MonMotha: you'll agree to disagree? |
| 02:28.00 | as_ | He'll agree to put down the knife and take the red pill. |
| 02:29.08 | sorphin | as_: ok you neo wannabe |
| 02:29.36 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: well, technially Morphous handed out the pills, but who's nitpicking? |
| 02:29.47 | as_ | I was going to say 'white' but I felt a matrix moment on the horizon. |
| 02:30.29 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i know |
| 02:30.43 | as_ | I personally think it would have been more fun to take both and go into the bonus round. |
| 02:30.50 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:30.52 | sorphin | weirdo |
| 02:31.25 | as_ | In which you get to win a car, a TV, and a dream vacation before learning they arnt real. |
| 02:31.54 | sorphin | as_: don't forget a date w/ the woman in the red dress ;) |
| 02:31.59 | CosmicPenguin | uhh, right... |
| 02:32.04 | CosmicPenguin | I have to go over here now |
| 02:32.16 | as_ | Dont walk away. |
| 02:32.19 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: messed w/ the writer yet? |
| 02:32.24 | as_ | I want you to be my friend. |
| 02:32.40 | as_ | You want to be my friend dont you Cosmic? |
| 02:32.56 | sorphin | as_: as long as you're not from wales, he should be safe ;p |
| 02:33.10 | as_ | Christ No. |
| 02:33.34 | as_ | If only to avoid that accent. |
| 02:33.57 | sorphin | as_: mainly was refering to the sexual preference that seems to be dominate there |
| 02:34.31 | as_ | I suspect less sheep bothering goes on that is publically joked about. |
| 02:34.44 | sorphin | i was refering to same gender |
| 02:34.51 | sorphin | demark is the sheep capital |
| 02:34.55 | sorphin | denmark even |
| 02:35.49 | as_ | Hmm. Chinese whispers. |
| 02:36.34 | sorphin | ? |
| 02:37.06 | as_ | How things change in the retelling, noone here would think anything other than 'sheep' for wales. |
| 02:38.52 | as_ | Except for possibly Cerys from catatonia. |
| 02:40.07 | as_ | Thats rather puzzling then. |
| 02:40.54 | sorphin | london, cheswick, reading, tadley, cambridge |
| 02:41.35 | as_ | Where did the wales rumor come from? |
| 02:42.44 | sorphin | various brits i know, things i've read |
| 02:54.24 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: seen andersee? |
| 02:54.24 | | andersee is currently on #uclibc #tuxscreen |
| 02:54.36 | sorphin | : idle : 2 hours 45 mins 49 secs (signon: Fri Nov 29 10:26:06 2002) |
| 02:54.48 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: I know that you worthless bunch of bits |
| 02:54.49 | | CosmicPenguin: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 02:55.04 | sorphin | no |
| 02:55.08 | sorphin | it IS a breadbox |
| 02:55.09 | sorphin | :P |
| 02:55.20 | CosmicPenguin | Only the breadbox has more personality |
| 02:55.51 | as_ | Whos a worthless bunch of brits? |
| 02:56.08 | sorphin | as_: all of wales? |
| 02:57.26 | as_ | Most of wales, ireland, scotland south england and the far north, but hey, I'm not judgemental. |
| 02:57.42 | sorphin | hey now |
| 02:58.56 | as_ | I'll have to be careful, if he ever sobers up, he might get upset at that. |
| 02:59.04 | as_ | >:] |
| 02:59.11 | sorphin | he's not a drunkard |
| 02:59.21 | sorphin | he actually works for Sun |
| 02:59.56 | as_ | Ok, I'd probably better not tell you how far below 'drunkard' that puts him. |
| 03:00.19 | sorphin | umm |
| 03:00.51 | CosmicPenguin | as_: tell me the story of the Ashes. |
| 03:02.07 | as_ | I dont know it tbh, just that they were at a famous cricket match and ended up being burned. |
| 03:02.42 | CosmicPenguin | I only know what HHGTTG says. |
| 03:02.58 | CosmicPenguin | But I didn't know that there was *really* an Ashes match |
| 03:04.01 | as_ | I understood they were cerominial for some reason before they were torched. |
| 03:05.50 | CosmicPenguin | http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/the_ashes/history/2190854.stm |
| 03:06.07 | CosmicPenguin | My other question is for our Canadian friends |
| 03:06.21 | file | eh? |
| 03:06.23 | CosmicPenguin | I went to Old Navy this weekend, and they were handing out game pieces for a sweepstakes |
| 03:06.33 | file | yes. |
| 03:06.47 | CosmicPenguin | And basically, you scratch a box, and you win a prize (usually a discount of some sort) |
| 03:06.59 | file | I love those |
| 03:07.14 | CosmicPenguin | But the wierd thing was - it said on the ticket, that in Canada, you had to answer a math question |
| 03:07.26 | file | yup |
| 03:07.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i guess they figure, most can't ;) |
| 03:07.28 | file | very common |
| 03:07.39 | CosmicPenguin | file: is that a law or something? |
| 03:07.42 | file | I had to answer a math question for my bag of chips |
| 03:07.44 | file | dunno |
| 03:07.53 | file | maybe age requirement thing? |
| 03:08.00 | CosmicPenguin | And it wasn't an "whats 2+2 question" either. It was fairly complicated |
| 03:08.18 | file | the thing to remember with those: order of operations |
| 03:08.29 | file | most stores don't care if you do 'em out... |
| 03:08.49 | as_ | Interesting, thats the one, 'the worse cricket match in living memory' it was called at the time. |
| 03:09.48 | CosmicPenguin | file: anyway, it was wierd to me |
| 03:10.05 | file | CosmicPenguin: I live with it all the time |
| 03:10.17 | as_ | Rather symbolic of the current state of english cricket, but thats cricket for you. |
| 03:10.38 | CosmicPenguin | file: Not that its bad - it would do this country well to answer a math question every once in a while |
| 03:10.54 | file | haha |
| 03:11.10 | CosmicPenguin | But as a geek, I was wondering what the reasons were |
| 03:11.18 | file | dunno |
| 03:11.34 | CosmicPenguin | Bummer - you were my "expert"... :) |
| 03:11.44 | file | I hate being sick... wish advil lasted longer |
| 03:11.59 | file | bbl |
| 03:12.14 | file | sleep is good... after I watch Tallship Chronicles |
| 03:12.33 | as_ | Whats in advil? |
| 03:13.15 | as_ | Ibuprofen is rather good. |
| 04:05.51 | CosmicPenguin | Heh - Henry Kissinger is on the TV - he looks awful |
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| 04:36.27 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... uclibc doesn't include monetary.h |
| 04:37.24 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:39.00 | CosmicPenguin | so how the hell am I supposed to use strfmon? |
| 04:41.14 | CosmicPenguin | 2.3MB total for Pixil |
| 04:41.17 | CosmicPenguin | damn |
| 04:42.20 | CosmicPenguin | too much |
| 04:46.38 | sorphin | esp for the tux |
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| 05:00.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: actually not because of JFFS2, but thats not the point |
| 05:00.06 | CosmicPenguin | its a matter of principal |
| 05:03.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: jffs2 is a compressing filesystem |
| 05:03.14 | sorphin | true |
| 05:03.19 | sorphin | but there are compressing limits |
| 05:03.30 | sorphin | the end all is still the size of the flash |
| 05:04.27 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, but 3MB compresses down to well within the bounds of the Tux - with mucho room to spare |
| 05:05.06 | sorphin | depends on what's in that 3M i guess |
| 05:08.15 | CosmicPenguin | very funny |
| 05:10.24 | as2 | Nite all. |
| 05:25.42 | CosmicPenguin | Final JFFS2 image is 3538944 |
| 05:25.56 | CosmicPenguin | Leaving just about 500k for database |
| 05:26.01 | CosmicPenguin | Which isn't alot |
| 05:28.28 | MonMotha | has anyone actually made a call via SIP or H.323 from a tux running linux via a normal VoIP infrastructure? or is this all some sort of pipe dream? |
| 05:28.48 | MonMotha | I know it's theoretically possible, but I'm curious if it's actually been done |
| 05:30.55 | CosmicPenguin | Well, since you have no way of actually recording any sound, its a bit moot |
| 05:31.11 | MonMotha | how is that? |
| 05:31.22 | MonMotha | you'd need a shanip mod obviously |
| 05:31.30 | MonMotha | so the system can actually talk to the handset |
| 05:38.05 | CosmicPenguin | Well, the answer is no - nobody has even tried to do any VoIP with the Tuxscreen, as far as I know |
| 05:38.18 | CosmicPenguin | And if they have, they didn't share the secret with us |
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| 13:11.09 | sorphin | Morn: morning julie |
| 13:14.06 | Morn | is it? |
| 13:16.06 | sorphin | unfortunately |
| 13:17.42 | Morn | make it go away! |
| 13:18.10 | sorphin | heh, wish i could :P |
| 13:22.42 | Morn | I wonder if the young kids will make fun of the old woman when I go to college next fall |
| 13:26.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 13:34.15 | Morn | ack! |
| 13:34.22 | Morn | cfg posted to the tuxscreen list |
| 13:49.50 | sorphin | eh? |
| 14:02.48 | Morn | chris faylor of redhat |
| 14:02.50 | Morn | cgf |
| 14:04.12 | Morn | he runs or ran, I haven't kept up recently |
| 14:04.25 | sorphin | oh |
| 14:04.25 | Morn | he was just such an ass to newbies on the list about cygwin |
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| 15:09.30 | prpplague | morning all |
| 15:10.49 | sorphin | lo |
| 15:17.55 | prpplague | bork or pork? |
| 15:17.58 | sorphin | stupid module says it can't find end_buffer_io_sync, i checked the source, it uses it once, can't find where it's defined yet tho.. or supposed to be |
| 15:18.11 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:18.13 | prpplague | fun |
| 15:18.19 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:18.26 | sorphin | tis the new ntfs code |
| 15:18.48 | prpplague | ahh, i was talking to a friend this weekend about support for ntfs |
| 15:18.52 | sorphin | since fat32 didn't seem to like a 60G partition |
| 15:19.03 | sorphin | or atleast acted like it didn't |
| 15:19.16 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, m$ has included a hardcoded limit of 32gb partition |
| 15:19.39 | sorphin | and yet, i heard fat32 was supposed to support bigger, so much for that lie |
| 15:19.41 | prpplague | sorphin: seems too many ppl were staying with fat32 and not moving to ntfs |
| 15:19.54 | prpplague | sorphin: so what is the level of ntfs support under linux these days? |
| 15:20.10 | sorphin | still not RW, still recomment RO |
| 15:20.15 | sorphin | recommend |
| 15:20.44 | sorphin | least according to the doc, and linux-ntfs.sf.net |
| 15:41.03 | andersee | sorphin: ntfs rw is started, but not done. Visit #ntfs for details if you want |
| 15:42.00 | sorphin | andersee: i may visit there if nothing else to point out this missing symbol (tho i did apply against 2.4.20).. |
| 15:42.49 | sorphin | andersee: btw.. you're up late ;) |
| 15:44.26 | andersee | sorphin: nah. I'm on a day schedule today. I woke up at 6:30 this morning. :) |
| 15:45.09 | sorphin | scary ;) |
| 15:45.31 | sorphin | did you see that jordan was looking for you yesterday? |
| 15:45.53 | sorphin | andersee: <CosmicPenguin> hmm.... uclibc doesn't include monetary.h |
| 15:46.13 | prpplague | andersee: got a great idea for an addition to BB, we can add "mid-level managment" mode, where ever time you tell bb what you need it to do it ask another 6 or 7 times before storing the answer and waits a significate period time before acting on the answer |
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| 15:46.52 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:46.55 | sorphin | and speak of the devil |
| 15:47.10 | CosmicPenguin | >:-) |
| 15:47.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i just pointed andersee at your monetary.h prob |
| 15:47.34 | sorphin | so when he wakes back up in hte next min or so, he might see it ;) |
| 15:47.58 | sorphin | and there's chris |
| 15:48.00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: heh - thanks. It was just a minor concern. I'm trying to get Pixil as ready as I can |
| 15:48.50 | prpplague | kergoth: must have been a hell of a tv show, you've been there since last night |
| 15:48.55 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:49.17 | sorphin | prpplague: prolly fell asleep in front of it |
| 15:49.34 | sorphin | musta been some boring pr0n |
| 15:49.49 | andersee | sorphin: CosmicPenguin: monetary.h is part of locale support. Isn't checked into CVS yet. |
| 15:50.50 | sorphin | andersee: that'd explain it then ;) |
| 15:53.22 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: k - I've got a whole boatload of locale stuff that I need. Can I be of assistance in getting it worked out? |
| 15:54.54 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: not really. Though you will be able to help with testing... |
| 15:55.57 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Manuel has a big chunk of stuff that should be doing into CVS later today. |
| 16:05.17 | sorphin | andersee: it'll be a while before there's a .20 patch they said |
| 16:05.31 | sorphin | and as for write support, they can overwrite files, but no delete/create yet.. |
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| 16:16.35 | prpplague | GPSFan: yo! |
| 16:16.39 | prpplague | GPSFan: mr.lcd |
| 16:16.45 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:20.54 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Let me know... I'm this close to getting Pixil ready to go on the Tuxscreen |
| 16:21.16 | GPSFan | Hi prpplague: |
| 16:21.16 | CosmicPenguin | WIth uclibc, I can fit it all in a 3.5MB JFFS2 image |
| 16:21.19 | CosmicPenguin | Still a little chunky |
| 16:21.37 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Still, pretty cool it'll all fit. |
| 16:22.12 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Keep in mind that with uClibc locales enabled, that will add a bit of space too... |
| 16:22.24 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Yeah, I know |
| 16:22.40 | CosmicPenguin | The main culprit right now is the pixil widgets library - 1MB strong by itself |
| 16:23.01 | sorphin | ugh |
| 16:23.04 | CosmicPenguin | But I think that I can milk a little more out of it with some coaxing |
| 16:23.14 | file | hehe |
| 16:23.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: debugging all turned off and stripped ? |
| 16:23.35 | CosmicPenguin | I can cut down Microwindows by a lot, and there are some FTLK tricks that we haven't been playing yet |
| 16:23.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: stripped yes, the debugging is sporatic |
| 16:23.58 | scanline | blame the C++ :) |
| 16:24.07 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey, do you know how to calculate the lcd values when using the sa-11x0 lcd controler? |
| 16:24.15 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I am going to try to build it with a static library - I don't know if that will help or not, though... :( |
| 16:24.40 | scanline | femto-X |
| 16:24.49 | scanline | atto-GUI! |
| 16:25.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hopefully it will |
| 16:25.39 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm using the old ntfs driver now, seems to be reading just fine atleast |
| 16:26.20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: why? |
| 16:26.21 | GPSFan | prpplague: I have gone through all the Intel/Dec cocs on how to do that, and tried it once on an ADS Graphics Client, but totally screwed it up. ;>( |
| 16:26.44 | sorphin | doh |
| 16:27.10 | GPSFan | prpplague: I think I have some examples for some different LCD's. let me look through my old Graphics Client stuff and see what I can find. |
| 16:27.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: why what? |
| 16:27.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: why on the lcd bit? he's trying to break that dev kit ;) |
| 16:27.46 | CosmicPenguin | sorry, oops.. wrong person |
| 16:27.57 | prpplague | sorphin: other way around, try to build up the dev kit |
| 16:27.58 | CosmicPenguin | I was talking to sorphin re the Microwindows name change |
| 16:28.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 16:28.33 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: actually i was more talking size reduction, so the name would have to change ;) |
| 16:29.03 | sorphin | and nano has one less letter too ;) |
| 16:29.19 | sorphin | there, you already saved 1 byte ;) |
| 16:29.46 | CosmicPenguin | s/Micro/Nano/ |
| 16:29.48 | CosmicPenguin | Done... :) |
| 16:30.11 | sorphin | "and one byte can make a difference" *grin* |
| 16:31.14 | sorphin | fyi, incase anyone cares |
| 16:31.21 | sorphin | avoid 2.4.20-ac1 |
| 16:31.51 | sorphin | 2.4.20 seems ok, but -ac1 caused panics every time i did anything w/ hdparm+ide and then ran any command |
| 16:33.13 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I've been getting OOM messages from 24.20-ac1.... I can't keep it going for more than about 12 hours |
| 16:33.14 | CosmicPenguin | Sadlly |
| 16:33.44 | file | what's the ac stand for? |
| 16:33.50 | sorphin | alan cox |
| 16:34.02 | file | ic |
| 16:34.13 | sorphin | -ac is his patches |
| 16:34.24 | sorphin | anyways |
| 16:34.24 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, its an iffy release at this point |
| 16:34.27 | file | ..bad patches |
| 16:34.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you turned on overcommit btw ? |
| 16:34.56 | sorphin | actualy, it's kinda stupid to run w/o overcommit turned on |
| 16:35.20 | sorphin | very easy to run OOM otherwise, since the kernel doesn't like to reclaim it's cache otherwise :P |
| 16:35.30 | sorphin | despite what Russ thinks it SHOULD be doing ;p |
| 16:35.36 | sorphin | it doesn't |
| 16:36.18 | *** join/#tuxscreen TomW (tom@147seg-pc-1624-14.msns.str.ptd.net) |
| 16:36.41 | sorphin | the moon must be blue ;) |
| 16:36.50 | sorphin | cuz there's tomw ;) |
| 16:36.53 | prpplague | TomW: yo! |
| 16:36.56 | prpplague | TomW: dude! |
| 16:37.01 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no - I'm quite cautious with my IDE |
| 16:37.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nono, not ide |
| 16:37.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: memory |
| 16:37.19 | TomW | been too busy working, did Pepsi Cola purchase the moon? |
| 16:37.20 | prpplague | TomW: long time no see here on irc |
| 16:37.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: memory overcommit |
| 16:37.42 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ahh, now I'm with you |
| 16:37.47 | prpplague | TomW: hey, we got our first two boards done |
| 16:38.04 | TomW | prpplague: I have 100 SMD boards to build today, just waiting for the solder paste to warm up. |
| 16:38.12 | prpplague | TomW: doh |
| 16:38.16 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: anyway, I'm either recompiling or pulling back to 2.4.19 |
| 16:38.23 | TomW | prpplague: big question, do they run? |
| 16:38.27 | prpplague | TomW: you doing them by hand |
| 16:38.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: 2.4.20 seems fine w/o the AC |
| 16:38.34 | TomW | prpplague: yup |
| 16:38.40 | prpplague | TomW: got blob booting within 20 minutes |
| 16:38.54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: fyi, /proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory that's the magic thing to set :) |
| 16:39.09 | prpplague | TomW: man, i'd like to know what kind of setup you have sometime |
| 16:39.12 | TomW | prpplague: no big deal, there are only 3 ICs and 7 1206 chip caps / resistors. |
| 16:39.27 | sorphin | TomW: bah, that's easy ;) |
| 16:39.45 | sorphin | file: hope they're clean :P |
| 16:39.45 | prpplague | TomW: still, i've not done SMD work before |
| 16:39.49 | file | sorphin: of course |
| 16:40.01 | prpplague | TomW: you farm out the pcb stuff somewhere? |
| 16:40.12 | sorphin | prpplague: i've done some, depending on what it is, you can do it w/ a simple small pencil tip |
| 16:40.17 | TomW | prpplague: www.zephyrtronics.com |
| 16:40.23 | prpplague | TomW: thanks |
| 16:40.47 | sorphin | there, finally, 4G copied |
| 16:40.53 | TomW | prpplague: I get the PCBs done at Advanced Circuits: www.4pcb.com, they do nice work. |
| 16:40.57 | prpplague | TomW: hey, can you recomend some docs on calculating lcd timmings for the sa-11x0 controler |
| 16:40.58 | prpplague | ? |
| 16:41.02 | sorphin | now i can attempt to burn this damn dvd under linux :P |
| 16:41.20 | TomW | prpplague: naw, I haven't done anything with that yet. |
| 16:41.52 | file | alas... compgeeks hasn't sent out my MMC |
| 16:42.04 | TomW | sorphin: hello dude. |
| 16:42.04 | prpplague | TomW: ok thanks |
| 16:42.08 | sorphin | prpplague: looks like you might have to slap around some Intel engineer ;p |
| 16:42.16 | TomW | heh |
| 16:42.36 | prpplague | TomW: which model of zephy do you use? |
| 16:42.39 | sorphin | prpplague: tho after doing it to IBM, etc, you should manage ;) |
| 16:42.42 | TomW | prpplague: so, your abortion actually runs, eh? |
| 16:42.58 | sorphin | rotfl |
| 16:43.02 | sorphin | abortion ? |
| 16:43.31 | prpplague | TomW: yep |
| 16:43.45 | TomW | prpplague: ZT-1-CLS-MIL, ZT-2, ZT-3, ZT-4 |
| 16:43.50 | prpplague | TomW: although we are having some minor problems the ram timming |
| 16:44.09 | prpplague | TomW: we should be able to iron that out and get another 10 made by the end of dec. |
| 16:44.22 | TomW | prpplague: not suprising that SDRAM would be an issue, is it? |
| 16:44.31 | prpplague | TomW: no |
| 16:44.41 | TomW | prpplague: really high speed stuff. |
| 16:45.07 | TomW | a nano here or there and you miss the data bit(s). |
| 16:45.15 | prpplague | TomW: i was more concerned with the flash and jtag, i figured we might have some bugs to work out on the ram |
| 16:46.18 | TomW | Hey, at least you have something that is working. Initial proto, so, now you find all the mistakes that you missed on the schematic. It is almost a given that the first proto is screwed in some way. |
| 16:46.37 | prpplague | TomW: agreed |
| 16:46.38 | TomW | sometimes you find it right away, other times it takes several months before it appears. |
| 16:47.27 | CosmicPenguin | I'm real good at finding those.... |
| 16:47.41 | CosmicPenguin | For some reason, when I work on code, its almost always the hardware's fault... I wonder why? |
| 16:47.55 | prpplague | lol |
| 16:48.04 | prpplague | TomW: hey i can't find the zt-1 on the list |
| 16:48.08 | TomW | I did a simple RS232 --> RS485 convertor board, it took a few days before I found the mistake. It was that two pins were connected together to signal the presence of the interface. somehow, during routing, I connected both to GND. |
| 16:48.19 | prpplague | TomW: nm, jsut found it |
| 16:48.37 | prpplague | TomW: doh |
| 16:48.47 | TomW | the whole setup cost about $2400. |
| 16:49.07 | prpplague | TomW: you need all of those to do SMD ? |
| 16:49.13 | TomW | ... more than a Weller solder station, but inexpensive as SMD goes. |
| 16:49.18 | TomW | prpplague: yup\ |
| 16:49.36 | sorphin | prpplague: unless you wanna hand solder w/ a good tip ;) :) |
| 16:49.43 | TomW | get the air-pick, even if you don't think you need it. |
| 16:50.26 | prpplague | sorphin: radioshack special....... |
| 16:50.34 | sorphin | prpplague: actually |
| 16:50.37 | sorphin | all the SMT i've done |
| 16:50.44 | sorphin | i've used ratshack's pencil tip |
| 16:50.53 | TomW | also, use lithium grease on the threads of the air pencil "jets" (ZT-2), they have a tendancy to weld themselves to the barrel. |
| 16:51.28 | TomW | I use thermal grease to lubricate the threads. |
| 16:51.49 | prpplague | TomW: i'll have to wait till i get this board moving, i've got a significate amount of money invested in this project :( |
| 16:51.54 | sorphin | TomW: i do that sometimes just on my normal iron tops |
| 16:51.58 | sorphin | s/tops/tips/ |
| 16:52.05 | sorphin | otherwise they seize |
| 16:52.33 | prpplague | sorphin: ya the little blue 15w ratshack special is actually pretty decent for most stuff |
| 16:52.41 | TomW | the bitch of the whole process is dispensing the paste. They use a form of hypodermic to squeeze the paste out in a thin "rope". Kills your hand after a while squeezing the paste out. |
| 16:52.52 | sorphin | prpplague: actually i get the pencil tip, and i use a switchable 15/30W |
| 16:52.58 | sorphin | both from RS |
| 16:53.03 | TomW | sorphin: yeah, esp with RS irons. |
| 16:53.14 | sorphin | TomW: i had a weller before |
| 16:53.16 | prpplague | sorphin: ya i don't like the switchable one much |
| 16:53.19 | sorphin | that thing was horrible |
| 16:54.04 | TomW | sorphin: had a weller TC201 for years. I got really got at using it. Didn't know that anyone else made irons.. ;) |
| 16:54.13 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:54.24 | sorphin | i've only had 1 RS iron that disappointed me |
| 16:54.44 | sorphin | twas a 30w iron w/ a grey rubber bit to hold it by, was supposed to stay cool |
| 16:54.48 | sorphin | it didn't |
| 16:54.53 | sorphin | by any stretch of the imagination |
| 16:55.14 | TomW | Well, I have to purchase a new TC201 iron, both the heater and thermostat went in the one I have. It lasted about 6 years. |
| 16:55.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: btw.. |
| 16:55.47 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: on the linux dvd burning bit, this isn't valid: mkisofs -dvd-video -udf -o dvd.iso dvd/ |
| 16:56.03 | sorphin | even the dvdrtools mkisofs doesn't have a -dvd-video option |
| 16:56.07 | sorphin | tho it does have udf |
| 16:57.30 | TomW | prpplague: Zephyr has an interesting way of removing ICs off the board. They use a low-temp alloy to dilute the solder. You head the board to 150C and the alloy melts. The other systems I looked at used HUGE amounts of heat and you could potentially de-laminate the fiberglass PCB or vaporize traces at the temperatures they used! |
| 16:57.46 | TomW | s/head/heat/ |
| 16:57.54 | sorphin | TomW: heh, i wish i had somehting like that |
| 16:58.04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I don't have the URLs with me, but it seems to me that it shouldn't be a huge issue |
| 16:58.16 | prpplague | TomW: ya i was reading about the mass pin de-soldering unit |
| 16:58.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: it's not, just letting you know |
| 16:58.23 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: good to know |
| 16:58.59 | TomW | sorphin: you have a tivo? |
| 16:59.09 | sorphin | TomW: you could say that ;) |
| 16:59.42 | sorphin | TomW: the damn prom chip on the 60 hour series 2's was a bitch to get off compared to the S1s :/ |
| 16:59.43 | TomW | sorphin: fontenot had told me about his tivo, interesting unit. It is on my Christmas list. |
| 17:00.01 | sorphin | i lifted traces |
| 17:00.13 | sorphin | finally i gave up and sent the damn board to someone to have them pop it off |
| 17:00.50 | TomW | yeah, the problem with the Zephyr low-temp alloy is chasing the little balls of alloy/solder around the board after you remove the chip. |
| 17:00.58 | sorphin | hehe |
| 17:01.21 | sorphin | just as long as it doesn't attack the 2 bga chips ;) |
| 17:01.22 | sorphin | i'd be ok |
| 17:01.46 | sorphin | actually make that 4 bga chips |
| 17:01.47 | TomW | you use some 110lb card stock to "sweep & scoop" them off the board. Only the card stock has a tendancy to get heated to the ignition point, LOL. |
| 17:02.00 | sorphin | haha |
| 17:02.13 | prpplague | TomW: fun |
| 17:02.36 | TomW | naw, I cannot do BGA with the Zephyr unit. They do have a BGA setup, but that costs $11K. |
| 17:02.46 | prpplague | ouch |
| 17:02.47 | sorphin | on the S2 |
| 17:02.58 | sorphin | the mips, the 2 broadcom chips, and the asic are all bga |
| 17:03.13 | prpplague | TomW: ya everyone that can do bga wants and arm(no pun) and leg |
| 17:03.21 | TomW | sorphin: you don't have to remove those on the S2, do you? |
| 17:03.31 | sorphin | TomW: nah, thankfully |
| 17:03.36 | TomW | good. |
| 17:03.44 | sorphin | the decoder and the mips are heatsinked permanently tho |
| 17:04.02 | sorphin | they use that special thermal compound ;p |
| 17:04.03 | TomW | I bookmarked some links that Fontenot gave me abt modifying the S2 unit. |
| 17:04.08 | sorphin | the kinda that won't get go :P |
| 17:04.12 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:04.31 | sorphin | s/can'/can/ |
| 17:04.52 | TomW | sorphin: I got to wait for someone to pay their invoice first. :-/ |
| 17:05.03 | sorphin | actually |
| 17:05.15 | sorphin | if you're interested, and don't care if it's one of the 60 hour ones |
| 17:06.09 | TomW | Well, the 60 hours is not a big issue, I planned to stick a 120Gig drive into the tivo anyway and get it integrated into my LAN. |
| 17:06.14 | TomW | ASAP. |
| 17:06.35 | TomW | Freakin' commercials are driving me nuts! |
| 17:07.51 | TomW | What would be cool is if someone came out with a unit (VCR, etc.) that would keep the video sync pulses timing so you could "ultra fast forward" the recording and skip the commercials quicker. |
| 17:08.12 | TomW | yeah |
| 17:08.15 | TomW | heh |
| 17:08.45 | TomW | must be nice, hit skip and it skips, rather than fast forwards for 30 seconds worth. |
| 17:08.54 | sorphin | and atleast the older S2 doesn't wanna see the lock from some devices |
| 17:09.06 | TomW | lock? |
| 17:09.10 | sorphin | singal |
| 17:09.13 | sorphin | signal |
| 17:09.15 | sorphin | it won't lock |
| 17:09.21 | sorphin | s1 is fine |
| 17:09.31 | sorphin | s2 won't see my vcr nor another guy's camera |
| 17:09.39 | sorphin | but it sees the xbox fine |
| 17:09.50 | sorphin | both on composite and RF |
| 17:09.57 | TomW | eyyyh, that is not good. |
| 17:09.58 | sorphin | what's really odd |
| 17:10.06 | sorphin | is on hte RF |
| 17:10.08 | sorphin | i show it locked |
| 17:10.17 | sorphin | but their sw shows a lock and lost lock |
| 17:10.32 | sorphin | i thikn they made it want a stronger signal or somesuch |
| 17:11.12 | TomW | Well, Cinemax does rebroadcast a lot of the stuff that I already have on tape, so, I'll just have to be patient. |
| 17:12.07 | sorphin | TomW: for example |
| 17:12.09 | sorphin | [console@TiVoS2 ~]# videostatus.mips |
| 17:12.09 | sorphin | status is 0x21 |
| 17:12.09 | sorphin | Video lock: OK |
| 17:12.09 | sorphin | input: (0xc0) RF Tuner |
| 17:12.22 | sorphin | now if you were looking on the tv screen, or at their logs |
| 17:12.27 | sorphin | you'd see otherwise |
| 17:12.32 | file | Pay It Forward, Against All Odds, and Exit Wounds is on Cinemax right now |
| 17:13.05 | TomW | sorphin: maybe it is the quality of the recording. You might be correct, lousy image quality (comparitively) and low signal strength. Maybe put a RF pre-amp on the output of the VCR? The kind that were used to boost / split CATV signals to multiple tv sets? |
| 17:13.27 | TomW | file: pretty brutal fare, eh? |
| 17:13.34 | sorphin | TomW: actually, it won't even show hte menu |
| 17:13.49 | file | I find better stuff on HBO |
| 17:14.05 | file | like "The Net" |
| 17:14.06 | sorphin | TomW: the fact that it works on hte S1 but not the S2, and the chips that matter (the 7114/7120, etc) are the same |
| 17:14.18 | sorphin | it makes me wonder what they tweaked |
| 17:14.32 | TomW | file: yeah, but, I like movies, I don't care to see standup comedy or other specials. Although, sometimes Cinemax has crap on... |
| 17:14.32 | sorphin | and until i can confirm a "new version" s2 does the same thing |
| 17:14.51 | sorphin | file: stop drooling over Sandra :P |
| 17:14.55 | file | TomW: yup |
| 17:14.58 | file | sorphin: ha |
| 17:14.58 | TomW | sorphin: probably copyright concerns? |
| 17:15.06 | file | sorphin: I just laugh at all the old hardware - older than mine |
| 17:15.08 | sorphin | TomW: no |
| 17:15.23 | sorphin | TomW: i'm not exporting, i'm importing |
| 17:15.30 | sorphin | and they still have "save to vcr" |
| 17:15.33 | sorphin | so... |
| 17:15.46 | sorphin | the tivo honor macrovision |
| 17:15.51 | sorphin | not that i care |
| 17:16.35 | sorphin | right damn now |
| 17:16.40 | TomW | file: tcp/ip over ham radio? |
| 17:16.42 | sorphin | ~fishslap file |
| 17:16.43 | | ACTION slaps file up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:16.54 | file | TomW: it was a joke |
| 17:16.58 | TomW | sorphin: LOL |
| 17:17.33 | sorphin | i forget which |
| 17:17.46 | file | I use public frequencies. |
| 17:18.06 | sorphin | file: quit using the local police frequencies, they've been complaining again |
| 17:18.10 | TomW | file: about 9 years ago, I was using a NOS computer hooked up to my 2 meter Ham rig to attempt to get into the Internet node at Penn State U in Philadelphia. |
| 17:18.21 | file | sorphin: ha |
| 17:18.26 | sorphin | TomW: you h4x0r you ;) |
| 17:18.45 | file | TomW: hahaha |
| 17:18.59 | TomW | file: never got into the Philadelphia network, I didn't know what I was doing with this thing called "ARP". |
| 17:19.12 | file | TomW: haha |
| 17:19.19 | file | sorphin: it usually doesn't affect it |
| 17:19.22 | prpplague | my local PD uses these motorola car terminals with a basic xor encryption |
| 17:19.38 | sorphin | prpplague: wow, that's so advanced *smirk* |
| 17:19.46 | sorphin | only in tx ;) |
| 17:19.48 | TomW | file: somehow, I did get into the Valley Forge network. I had no idea how I did that. Fortunately, the phone company offered Internet access about a year later. |
| 17:19.56 | file | TomW: neat |
| 17:20.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:20.03 | prpplague | sorphin: no apparently these are sold nation wide |
| 17:20.12 | sorphin | bout 9 years ago, i was using someone's unix VAX account ;p |
| 17:20.22 | TomW | file: ping ke3dp.arpa.org |
| 17:20.25 | sorphin | s/unix/uni/ |
| 17:20.46 | file | TomW: doesn't work |
| 17:20.49 | sorphin | TomW: ping: unknown host ke3dp.arpa.org |
| 17:21.15 | TomW | file: yeah, just tried it, wonder why. Maybe my old IP finally died after 8 years? heh. |
| 17:21.24 | sorphin | ya think? :P |
| 17:21.33 | TomW | :P |
| 17:22.01 | TomW | Ah geez, I should mess with that stuff again. I have a 2 meter radio doing nothing. |
| 17:22.01 | sorphin | file: as long as i can have sandra, it's fine by me ;) |
| 17:22.13 | TomW | sorphin: Sandra? |
| 17:22.13 | file | sorphin: too bad - her purse just got stolen |
| 17:22.20 | sorphin | TomW: i need to snag another rig |
| 17:22.25 | sorphin | TomW: bullock |
| 17:22.37 | TomW | sorphin: hey, she's my babe! |
| 17:22.41 | file | and the stealer just got shot... |
| 17:22.42 | sorphin | she's in the movie "the net" file's obsessed w/ |
| 17:22.51 | file | I like to laugh at it! |
| 17:23.08 | file | all the crummy hardware |
| 17:23.09 | TomW | sorphin: she is a good actress. It seems a little strange to see her in non-techie roles though. |
| 17:23.19 | prpplague | anyone got experience pcl/ps code? |
| 17:23.28 | sorphin | prpplague: unfortunately |
| 17:23.43 | TomW | prpplague: some. |
| 17:23.46 | file | I think I'll go eat finally |
| 17:23.49 | prpplague | sorphin: is there an easy way to convert pcl to ps? |
| 17:23.50 | sorphin | TomW: what class are you ? |
| 17:23.58 | sorphin | prpplague: actually, yeah |
| 17:24.12 | TomW | prpplague: I use a perl script to take the PCL raster image and convert it to XPM. |
| 17:24.17 | sorphin | prpplague: find the lovely tool called pcl2ps ;) |
| 17:24.27 | TomW | sorphin: extra: WN3L |
| 17:24.32 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, i've been look for it |
| 17:24.36 | sorphin | TomW: bast |
| 17:24.52 | sorphin | prpplague: http://www.maths.usyd.edu.au:8000/u/psz/ps/pcl2ps |
| 17:25.07 | TomW | sorphin: I worked for it, I earned it, and I'll pay for it (WN3L == vanity). |
| 17:25.10 | sorphin | TomW: i'm just a lowly tech no code |
| 17:25.13 | prpplague | doh, i can't get port 8000 |
| 17:25.25 | sorphin | prpplague: quit firewalling yourself :P |
| 17:25.32 | prpplague | sorphin: not my problem |
| 17:25.38 | sorphin | use an external proxy :P |
| 17:25.48 | prpplague | sorphin: we are still clean up after firing our winblows sysadmin last year |
| 17:26.01 | TomW | prpplague: URL works here. |
| 17:26.10 | sorphin | TomW: he's behind a lame firewall |
| 17:26.44 | sorphin | prpplague: i usually have to go the other way, ps2pcl :P |
| 17:26.57 | prpplague | sorphin: can't dcc either |
| 17:26.57 | sorphin | since my HP only does pcl or text, etc |
| 17:26.58 | sorphin | no PS |
| 17:27.06 | TomW | prpplague: what, no dcc! |
| 17:27.17 | prpplague | TomW: ya i'm lucky to have irc |
| 17:27.18 | sorphin | prpplague: you need an outside shell :P |
| 17:27.30 | prpplague | sorphin: ya thats what i was doing now |
| 17:27.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:27.44 | sorphin | i can understand keeping people out |
| 17:27.48 | sorphin | but keeping people in |
| 17:27.50 | sorphin | is just lame |
| 17:28.03 | TomW | sorphin: our poorer friends with limited 'net access.... |
| 17:28.14 | sorphin | TomW: indeed |
| 17:28.19 | TomW | sorphin: ... and limited IP resources. |
| 17:28.35 | sorphin | which reminds me |
| 17:29.00 | TomW | sorphin: at least on some port like 9000 or something, that always gets around the firewalls. |
| 17:29.15 | sorphin | yeah |
| 17:29.21 | sorphin | or lie and use 8080 |
| 17:29.27 | TomW | heh |
| 17:29.39 | sorphin | since it's a proxy port, they should allow it |
| 17:29.57 | sorphin | when work shut down AIM one time |
| 17:30.01 | sorphin | cuz of the bug |
| 17:30.27 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:30.37 | sorphin | they allowed port 8080, so... |
| 17:30.42 | sorphin | that's their fault ;) |
| 17:31.25 | prpplague | hey be nice, just remember lots of tribes believed that if you eat the brains of your enemey you get their knowledge.......... |
| 17:31.43 | sorphin | TomW: if you ever get on the air again, and somehow hear n0yyw, that's my other friend tom *grin* |
| 17:32.04 | sorphin | prpplague: um.. put down the POS pipe, and no one gets hurt |
| 17:32.15 | prpplague | lol |
| 17:32.36 | GPSFan | prpplague: I found some settings for a Sharp LQ64D343 a TFT color VGA, would that be of any use to you? |
| 17:35.40 | sorphin | bah |
| 17:38.06 | Russ|werk | hey TomW |
| 17:38.20 | Russ|werk | hey prpplague |
| 17:38.22 | sorphin | and there's russ |
| 17:39.00 | prpplague | GPSFan: ya, at least something to compare to would be nice |
| 17:39.04 | prpplague | ibot: prpplague |
| 17:39.05 | | methinks prpplague is mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
| 17:39.11 | prpplague | Russ|werk: hey |
| 17:39.28 | prpplague | Russ|werk: in about 30 minutes, i'll check on your stuff |
| 17:39.31 | TomW | Russ|werk: hi Russ |
| 17:39.35 | GPSFan | prpplague: ok, ++++SPAM COMMING+++ (not much) |
| 17:39.36 | GPSFan | 0xC0000F04 0x00000008 ; 8 BPP |
| 17:39.37 | GPSFan | ;SHARP LQ64D343 VGA 640x480 TFT LCD |
| 17:39.37 | GPSFan | 0xB0100000 0x00000080 ; LCCR0 |
| 17:39.37 | GPSFan | 0xB0100020 0x50502270 ; LCCR1 |
| 17:39.37 | GPSFan | 0xB0100024 0x141421DF ; LCCR2 |
| 17:39.38 | GPSFan | 0xB0100028 0x00300003 ; LCCR3 |
| 17:39.40 | sorphin | fsck |
| 17:39.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: houston, we have a problem |
| 17:40.09 | prpplague | GPSFan: ok thanks |
| 17:40.16 | sorphin | dvdrecord won't write a disc not in it's table |
| 17:40.26 | TomW | well guys, it is time for me to goto the Health & Fitness center and trot my fat but for a few miles on the treadmill. :-/ |
| 17:40.30 | sorphin | Disk type: unknown |
| 17:40.30 | TomW | later |
| 17:40.30 | sorphin | Manuf. index: -1 |
| 17:40.30 | sorphin | Manufacturer: unknown (not in table) |
| 17:40.40 | sorphin | TomW: cya |
| 17:40.57 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what does that mean? |
| 17:41.01 | *** part/#tuxscreen TomW (tom@147seg-pc-1624-14.msns.str.ptd.net) |
| 17:41.15 | sorphin | that means it can't id the media by the ATIP |
| 17:41.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: shouldn't be much to stick the ID in the table, right? |
| 17:41.19 | sorphin | so it won't touch it |
| 17:41.26 | GPSFan | prpplague: I have some others too, but they are SVGA. |
| 17:41.40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, i'd have to find out the id |
| 17:41.42 | prpplague | GPSFan: i'll see what i can do with what you gave me |
| 17:41.47 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats why God invented printf() |
| 17:41.48 | sorphin | and shove it in the right place |
| 17:42.05 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, that pcl2ps ignores all graphics and extended fonts |
| 17:42.08 | prpplague | sorphin: :( |
| 17:42.20 | sorphin | no idea if the memorex or the accu will show up |
| 17:42.22 | sorphin | prpplague: hmm |
| 17:42.34 | GPSFan | prpplague: remember TFT and DSTN timings ar very different, as is the way the data is presented to the panel. |
| 17:42.40 | sorphin | prpplague: fyi |
| 17:42.42 | sorphin | If you have graphics, then may want to check out http://www-wisconsin.cern.ch/~lishka/progs/lj2ps/lj2ps_intro.html (also in comp.sources.misc/volume13) and/or http://ftp.ru.xemacs.org/pub/graphics/hp2pbm-pl3.tar.Z (also in comp.sources.misc/volume26). |
| 17:42.43 | sorphin | Maybe the best is GhostPCL from http://www.artifex.com/downloads/. |
| 17:43.41 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:43.52 | sorphin | now here's a page greeting if i've ever read one |
| 17:44.00 | sorphin | Playing DVDs on Linux |
| 17:44.01 | sorphin | By Tunji Durodola |
| 17:44.01 | sorphin | -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 17:44.01 | sorphin | Hello dear readers. |
| 17:44.01 | sorphin | My name is Tunji Durodola and I write from Nigeria, West Africa, the largest collection of black peoples on the face of the planet. |
| 17:44.48 | sorphin | and texas has the largest collection of tumble weeds that i know of (i think) |
| 17:45.15 | *** part/#tuxscreen GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130) |
| 17:45.55 | Russ|werk | HELLO FRIEND |
| 17:46.13 | file | HELLO RUSS |
| 17:46.48 | Russ|werk | I WRITE TO YOU IN STRICTIST CONFIDENCE |
| 17:46.50 | sorphin | umm |
| 17:47.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: why am i getting your mail again? |
| 17:47.02 | sorphin | Subject: *****SPAM***** Increase your penis 3 inches in 22 days |
| 17:47.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: hey, it worked for me |
| 17:47.23 | CosmicPenguin | Except for me it was 22 inches in 3 days |
| 17:47.32 | CosmicPenguin | I guess i shouldn't have doubled up the dosage, eh? |
| 17:48.05 | sorphin | sound like you musta read THIS mail |
| 17:48.07 | sorphin | Subject: *****SPAM***** Give Her Something Bigger! |
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| 17:49.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: here's my fav most of all |
| 17:49.13 | sorphin | Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2002 17:41:27 +0100 |
| 17:49.13 | sorphin | From: dans@captainrock.com |
| 17:49.13 | sorphin | To: dans@captainrock.com |
| 17:49.13 | sorphin | Subject: *****SPAM***** Believe or not! All famous russian teens getting |
| 17:49.13 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:49.16 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well thats better than "Subject: need bigger breast" |
| 17:49.17 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: don't scar the kids for life |
| 17:49.17 | sorphin | like i'd mail myself that |
| 17:49.33 | Russ|werk | all of them? |
| 17:49.36 | sorphin | prpplague: umm.. you haven't seen the spam i get |
| 17:49.36 | Russ|werk | really? |
| 17:50.13 | sorphin | Russ: here's the one file would need |
| 17:50.17 | sorphin | Subject: *****SPAM***** 2 New ways of "Tricking" Sluts into having Wild sex |
| 17:50.31 | prpplague | sorphin: thats good one |
| 17:50.57 | sorphin | hmmm |
| 17:51.04 | sorphin | only 10 so far on captainrock.com... |
| 17:51.07 | sorphin | they're slacking today |
| 17:51.09 | Russ|werk | ummm...someone needs to tell these people that by definition, sluts do not need tricking |
| 17:52.00 | sorphin | but spam assassion has a habit of periodically flagging valid mail as spam |
| 17:52.06 | sorphin | just because of the RBLs |
| 17:52.42 | sorphin | oh gawd |
| 17:52.55 | sorphin | i think the guy that i pasted above w/ his "dear readers" |
| 17:52.59 | sorphin | has probs |
| 17:53.09 | sorphin | further down, before listing the hw he's using |
| 17:53.12 | sorphin | he says: |
| 17:53.13 | sorphin | Just to get you warm, I'll tell you what system I've got in my crib. |
| 17:53.44 | sorphin | "just to get you warm" ? |
| 17:53.46 | sorphin | i don't wanna know |
| 17:53.50 | kergoth | lol |
| 17:54.08 | sorphin | kergoth: bout time you woke back up mr tv |
| 17:54.21 | kergoth | yeah yeah, i'm doing real work over here |
| 17:54.24 | kergoth | so i dont get my ass canned |
| 17:54.31 | sorphin | riiiight |
| 17:54.32 | sorphin | sure you are |
| 17:55.10 | sorphin | yeah, that looks like work |
| 17:55.22 | sorphin | not the kind digi's payin for tho ;) |
| 17:55.56 | prpplague | kergoth: ya ya, we know you have a pr0n window on your desktop |
| 17:56.09 | kergoth | shhh |
| 17:56.10 | sorphin | prpplague: doesn't everyone tho? |
| 17:57.40 | sorphin | "hello, are you chris larson's boss?" "well, i heard he's been surfing kiddie pr0n sites at work, and just thought you'd like to know" :P |
| 17:57.47 | kergoth | hah |
| 17:58.02 | sorphin | 5 seconds later |
| 17:58.13 | sorphin | security comes to kergoth's desk |
| 17:58.33 | sorphin | and escorts him out to the waiting police car :P |
| 17:59.45 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:59.46 | sorphin | cute |
| 18:00.06 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: someone has a prob w/ dvdrecord, and so posts to the cdrecord list and bugs Jorg about it |
| 18:02.54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ok, from reading |
| 18:03.09 | sorphin | use cdrecord-ProDVD for dvd burning on our burners |
| 18:03.21 | sorphin | and it's "Free for non commercial use" now, heh |
| 18:10.35 | sorphin | heh, prodvd understands what hte disc is... typical |
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| 18:34.30 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: still under Linux? |
| 18:34.34 | sorphin | yes |
| 18:34.38 | CosmicPenguin | but closed source |
| 18:34.46 | sorphin | im burning right now w/ it |
| 18:35.13 | sorphin | joerg is being closed about the dvd bit it seems.. |
| 18:35.37 | sorphin | but considering his ftp lives on Fraunhofer :P |
| 18:35.40 | sorphin | that doesn't surprise me |
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| 19:29.20 | sorphin | allo tim |
| 19:29.51 | file | BZFlag: still got a Tuxscreen available? |
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| 19:40.39 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if the preempt patch is OOMing my system under 2.4.20.... |
| 19:41.02 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 19:41.14 | sorphin | turn on overcommit and see how it acts? |
| 19:41.39 | sorphin | since i haven't ran w/o it for a long time now, i can't tell you if it's preempt or not |
| 19:42.51 | CosmicPenguin | I dobut that overcommit wil help - the 2.4 tree hasn't changed *that* much in two months |
| 19:43.01 | CosmicPenguin | And I have never OOMed before |
| 19:43.27 | sorphin | even w/ 1.5G of memory :P |
| 19:44.45 | CosmicPenguin | I do have a bunch of iptables rules... maybe somebody wrote in a hole and forgot to take it out |
| 19:44.56 | sorphin | dunno |
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| 19:46.02 | CosmicPenguin | heh.... well, I'll know when I go home - if its down again, then I'll know the jig is up |
| 19:46.10 | sorphin | yeah |
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| 19:46.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: btw, the dvd burned ok |
| 19:46.46 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: good news |
| 19:47.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I kinda hate using closed source, but thats sometimes the breaks |
| 19:47.06 | sorphin | unfortunately, just like nero, it forced the rw to burn at 1x |
| 19:47.19 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: here's hoping the Accu works with the open code |
| 19:47.27 | sorphin | yeah |
| 19:47.33 | CosmicPenguin | BTW, email me the link where you got the Accu discs, will ya? |
| 19:47.35 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: CosmicPenguin |
| 19:47.36 | | from memory, cosmicpenguin is Jordan Crouse or mailto:jordan@cosmicpenguin.net |
| 19:47.49 | sorphin | tho from what i read, might be more than just the media type |
| 19:49.58 | BZFlag | file: all sold out, there was one guy on the list that had one for sale. I've got some that need jtag recovery but I've been too swamped to get them resurrected. |
| 19:50.11 | file | BZFlag: k |
| 19:50.22 | *** topic/#tuxscreen by BZFlag -> #eLinux for general Embedded Linux | http://TuxScreen.net/ | Linux on your phone! | no TuxScreens and no JTAGs | gcc-final fails in current buildroot "ln -s `pwd`/build/stage/lib/* build/stage/arm-linux/lib/" | tinyx builds again |
| 19:50.32 | file | darn it, you beat me to it |
| 19:51.25 | sorphin | file: got a 3.3v parallel port? ;) |
| 19:51.35 | file | why? |
| 19:52.15 | file | uh huh |
| 19:52.24 | sorphin | all the dongle does is beat the 5v parallel port V to 3.3v |
| 19:52.32 | sorphin | and buffers |
| 19:53.14 | sorphin | be trivial to jtag one of the ones tim has that needs it |
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| 19:57.57 | byronb | hello all .. to update to newest blob from 2.0.4, do i need to uuencode the file for transfer? |
| 19:58.49 | BZFlag | byronb: does "help" show "xdownload" ? if not then you need to uuencode to use "download" |
| 19:59.18 | byronb | ok .. it does show download .. thanks =) |
| 20:15.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you've got mail. *smirk* |
| 20:20.45 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: do you suppose the specification for the DVD menus is freely available? |
| 20:21.11 | sorphin | should be, dunno where tho |
| 20:24.28 | CosmicPenguin | The redbook isn't freely available, is it? |
| 20:24.29 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: http://www.calvid.com/dvd/menus_spec.pdf |
| 20:24.54 | sorphin | google is your friend |
| 20:24.59 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, I saw that |
| 20:25.11 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: doesn't mention the scripting language though |
| 20:25.13 | sorphin | http://www.actionduplication.com/dvdmenu.htm |
| 20:25.13 | sorphin | too |
| 20:25.35 | sorphin | ah, that part of it |
| 20:25.45 | CosmicPenguin | well, kinda |
| 20:25.55 | sorphin | think the ifo might cover it |
| 20:26.20 | CosmicPenguin | page 7: Motion menu description |
| 20:26.24 | CosmicPenguin | Thats what I want to know |
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| 20:55.37 | Morn | re's |
| 20:56.55 | prpplague | Morn: howdy there person formerly know as "radio shack associate" |
| 21:01.44 | kergoth | hmm. why does busybox login fail to let you login if securetty doesnt exist? doesnt gnu login behave differently than that? |
| 21:03.21 | sorphin | no idea |
| 21:03.49 | kergoth | andersee: ping |
| 21:03.54 | sorphin | gawd i'm tired |
| 21:03.58 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:04.00 | kergoth | poder! |
| 21:04.07 | kergoth | god i hate mondays |
| 21:04.13 | sorphin | listen here digibitch |
| 21:04.49 | kergoth | eheh |
| 21:05.02 | sorphin | and now it's haunting me |
| 21:05.16 | ][N-Flux | what's a good cheap pcmcia that works with the tux? |
| 21:05.29 | sorphin | [: stop sneaking up on people ;p |
| 21:05.32 | ][N-Flux | network that is |
| 21:05.35 | sorphin | ]: stop sneaking up on people ;p |
| 21:05.46 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:05.48 | sorphin | that's odd |
| 21:05.54 | sorphin | its not matching on you now |
| 21:05.56 | sorphin | weird |
| 21:06.21 | sorphin | anyhow, not a clue |
| 21:06.30 | andersee | kergoth: pong |
| 21:07.15 | andersee | kergoth: Regarding /etc/securetty, that has been changed in CVS. I suppose I should make a release... |
| 21:07.53 | kergoth | andersee: i'm using cvs... still cannot login as root when securetty doesnt exist.. |
| 21:08.20 | andersee | kergoth: tinylogin cvs? |
| 21:08.30 | kergoth | busybox cvs, that is |
| 21:08.36 | andersee | kergoth: When did you last do a 'cvs up'? |
| 21:09.07 | kergoth | andersee: last night, around 12am central time |
| 21:09.16 | kergoth | andersee: just did one now, no changes |
| 21:09.40 | sorphin | kergoth: won't work |
| 21:09.47 | sorphin | kergoth: you're insane |
| 21:09.49 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:09.51 | kergoth | saw that coming |
| 21:09.52 | sorphin | there's not denying it |
| 21:09.53 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:10.01 | sorphin | s/not/no/ |
| 21:11.17 | kergoth | andersee: looking in the code, if the fopen fails, it returns 0, not 1. isnt 1 success in this context? |
| 21:11.42 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: the DVD-Video spec is 10,000 |
| 21:12.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i'll enquire w/ people i know that might know |
| 21:12.14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: or |
| 21:12.23 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: maybe dvd demystified might have it |
| 21:12.32 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you have dvd demystified? |
| 21:13.28 | CosmicPenguin | we have video demystified too |
| 21:13.49 | andersee | kergoth: could be. Does changing: |
| 21:13.49 | sorphin | some of dvd demyst is online too |
| 21:13.51 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.52 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.59 | andersee | to be /* A missing securetty file is not an error. */ |
| 21:13.59 | andersee | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.02 | andersee | fix it? |
| 21:14.08 | kergoth | andersee: havent had a chance to test that yet :) |
| 21:14.23 | kergoth | andersee: i suspect it will, given the inline check_tty which is used when securetty is disabled returns 1 |
| 21:14.27 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:19.43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: http://members.aol.com/mpucoder/DVD/ifo.html |
| 21:20.49 | sorphin | and there ifo tools in the stuff we found, the generator doesn't do menus, but ifo_dump might help some being used on some existing ifos |
| 21:21.32 | CosmicPenguin | oogle can handle menus - thats another source. I don't know if xine can |
| 21:22.37 | sorphin | the menu will be in video_ts generally |
| 21:22.55 | sorphin | was semi amusing |
| 21:23.13 | sorphin | dvdxcopy sneaks in it's own lil copyright thing into your ocpy before the FBI warning |
| 21:23.22 | sorphin | saying it's an archival backup.. |
| 21:34.02 | Morn | doh! |
| 21:34.10 | sorphin | Morn: hmm? |
| 21:34.14 | Morn | xine can handle menus |
| 21:34.26 | Morn | I saw your thing about dvdxcopy sneaking in a copyright thing |
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| 21:34.38 | Morn | I never got dvdxcopy to make a proper dvd |
| 21:34.54 | sorphin | i let it burn the 1st disc just for grins |
| 21:34.58 | sorphin | and saw that |
| 21:35.11 | sorphin | Morn: had to use cdrecord-ProDVD ot burn w/ linux |
| 21:35.21 | ][N-Flux | FA411NA <------that works witht he tux, does the FA411 |
| 21:35.33 | sorphin | Morn: oh, dunno if you saw |
| 21:35.34 | sorphin | <prpplague> Morn: howdy there person formerly know as "radio shack associate" |
| 21:35.40 | Morn | Yeah, I saw that |
| 21:35.46 | Morn | I chuckled |
| 21:36.21 | sorphin | "You got questions? Too bad, we don't have the answers, but we WILL try and sell you 800 other things w/ your batteries" ;) |
| 21:36.33 | prpplague | ya what you would guys do w/o prpplague's very bad geek humor |
| 21:36.44 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 21:36.47 | prpplague | sorphin: thats the truth |
| 21:37.57 | Morn | BTW, I made a big decision this weekend |
| 21:38.03 | sorphin | oh? |
| 21:38.06 | Morn | one of those life changing ones... |
| 21:38.13 | sorphin | and what's that? |
| 21:38.37 | Morn | I've decided to go to college (haven't done that yet) and work on an advanced degree |
| 21:38.51 | Morn | my game plan at this point is to become an professional student for the next 8-10 years |
| 21:38.58 | sorphin | ack |
| 21:38.59 | prpplague | Morn: ohh, i thought you were gonna say you decided to re-arrange your sock drawer |
| 21:39.21 | sorphin | prpplague: hey, least she didn't say somehting truely low, like that she wantd to marry someone like you ;p |
| 21:39.25 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks i needed that |
| 21:39.33 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 21:39.39 | prpplague | Morn: jk, congrads |
| 21:39.48 | sorphin | 8-10 years |
| 21:39.54 | sorphin | i could barely stand 3 years :P |
| 21:39.58 | prpplague | Morn: you got some money saved up or gonna get a grant/loan? |
| 21:40.08 | andersee | Morn: Any degrees already? |
| 21:40.13 | sorphin | prpplague: i sure hope she gets tons of grants |
| 21:40.18 | sorphin | cuz loans will kill |
| 21:40.19 | Morn | I have not had a single college course |
| 21:40.20 | sorphin | for that long |
| 21:40.36 | Morn | I should qualify for grants and stuff since my main source of income is SSDI |
| 21:41.28 | sorphin | which is why i ended up 26k in the hole |
| 21:41.46 | Morn | I'm listed as 100% disabled |
| 21:41.46 | sorphin | expensive piece of paper |
| 21:41.49 | andersee | Morn: Social Security Death Index? Solid State Devices Inc? |
| 21:41.58 | Morn | Social Security Disability |
| 21:42.01 | andersee | ahh |
| 21:42.12 | andersee | disabled? |
| 21:42.18 | sorphin | prpplague: ah, the army, that explains it all now ;) |
| 21:42.38 | prpplague | Morn: are you claiming that IRC usage is a addiction that doesn't allow you to work? lol |
| 21:42.39 | andersee | Morn: I'd guess not major carpal tunnel problems? |
| 21:43.06 | Morn | it's a bit complicated, but I spent over 2 years of my life in hospitals |
| 21:43.12 | Morn | and then another year in a halfway house |
| 21:43.19 | sorphin | ouch |
| 21:43.36 | Morn | I went from making $200k / year to nothing |
| 21:43.40 | Morn | not a fun transition |
| 21:43.42 | Morn | but I'm surviving |
| 21:44.10 | sorphin | 'it can't |
| 21:44.25 | Morn | sorphin: I was working 100+ hours a week |
| 21:44.29 | Morn | but it was cool |
| 21:44.31 | Morn | I enjoyed it |
| 21:44.38 | sorphin | but then, i can't even comprehend the $120k/year my friend daniel in SF makes |
| 21:45.02 | sorphin | Morn: i remember when i worked something like that |
| 21:45.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: good stuff.... this has the break down of the commands, and ifo_dump knows how to find the commands |
| 21:45.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 21:45.25 | CosmicPenguin | http://members.aol.com/mpucoder/DVD/index.html |
| 21:45.29 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: how comes the pixil open sourcing? |
| 21:45.40 | sorphin | Morn: he's stuck on andersee :P |
| 21:45.43 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: so-so at this point - I had other things pop up |
| 21:45.52 | Morn | ah |
| 21:46.03 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: but hopefully soon. I actually built a JFFS2 image last night 3.5MB for all the PIMS |
| 21:46.04 | sorphin | Morn: erik has missing monetary.h files laying around :P |
| 21:46.19 | sorphin | so, as usualy |
| 21:46.22 | sorphin | -y |
| 21:46.28 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: very cool |
| 21:46.29 | sorphin | it's andersee's fault ;) |
| 21:46.36 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: the inital release will probably not feature the system configurator or the gobal find app |
| 21:46.54 | CosmicPenguin | I want to make sure that the apps themselves are stable before I move on |
| 21:47.02 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: trick question, will it support the touch screen? |
| 21:47.27 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: we've got touchscreen support now if you want - Microwindows is already completely open |
| 21:47.37 | CosmicPenguin | Its just the PIMS themselves that are not |
| 21:47.47 | Morn | I thought that it didn't work in microwindows? |
| 21:47.52 | sorphin | decisions decisions |
| 21:48.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: convert to ac3 or just hope my player likes mpeg 1 layer 2 audio ? |
| 21:48.30 | Morn | I need to find a new laptop, mine is falling apart and I'll need it for school, any ideas on getting a decent priced laptop? |
| 21:48.46 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: no, it works great. Right now I'm fighting with Greg over the calibration, but the default calibration is suprisingly close enough |
| 21:48.56 | sorphin | Morn: got my a21p from ibm off ebay, got an excellent price |
| 21:49.01 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ac3 shouldn't be a requirement |
| 21:49.04 | CosmicPenguin | I would think |
| 21:49.06 | sorphin | ibm auctions on ebay |
| 21:49.12 | Morn | I'll check them out |
| 21:49.16 | sorphin | :) |
| 21:49.22 | sorphin | i had -0- complaints |
| 21:49.29 | Morn | this compaq is really just falling apart |
| 21:49.34 | sorphin | they evne shipped it saturday delivery, no extra cost |
| 21:49.36 | Morn | I've had it like 3 years |
| 21:49.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, it's noted that not all players like you using mpeg audio |
| 21:50.04 | Morn | I can't even compile on it, gcc seq faults, I think the ram is going bad |
| 21:50.06 | sorphin | dunno why |
| 21:51.09 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:51.16 | sorphin | Here's the new Pioneer 105 / A05 for £187 inc. VAT! |
| 21:51.33 | CosmicPenguin | How much is that? |
| 21:51.34 | sorphin | too bad that's GBP and |
| 21:51.37 | sorphin | such |
| 21:51.39 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:52.01 | sorphin | 1 GBP = 1.66 US on avg |
| 21:52.20 | CosmicPenguin | RIght.... so we're looking at 240ish |
| 21:53.29 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:53.37 | sorphin | actually at 1.55720 now |
| 21:53.51 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you're a bit off |
| 21:53.58 | sorphin | 187 British Pound = 291.196 US Dollar |
| 21:54.00 | sorphin | ;) |
| 21:54.11 | sorphin | but for them |
| 21:54.14 | sorphin | that's cheap |
| 21:54.23 | sorphin | considering what it normally costs |
| 21:54.56 | sorphin | over there for the same meal |
| 21:55.11 | sorphin | so i jus tpaid $6 :P |
| 21:59.34 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: How much do you use strfmon() in pixil? |
| 22:00.54 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: For now, I expect you could do an #ifdef __UCLIBC__ and use printf |
| 22:00.59 | Morn | Swap: 249440 124984 124456 |
| 22:01.01 | Morn | ack! |
| 22:01.18 | Morn | I just removed the 128MB ram module from the laptop to see if it was what was going bad |
| 22:01.24 | Morn | but 64MB just isn't enough |
| 22:01.46 | sorphin | Morn: heh |
| 22:03.09 | Morn | oh cool |
| 22:03.22 | Morn | ncftp -R dirname does a tar of the remote dir then downloads that |
| 22:03.25 | Morn | neat |
| 22:07.28 | prpplague | Morn: any, glad you have the opportunity to go to school, hope it'll bring you a little personal satisfaction |
| 22:07.42 | Morn | I think it will |
| 22:07.58 | Morn | hopfully I don't feel too out of place being older |
| 22:09.19 | sorphin | Morn: you'll be fine |
| 22:12.36 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I just use it in one area for now, the system config |
| 22:12.45 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: it never got implemented anywhere else |
| 22:12.58 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Should be easy enough to work around the lack for now. |
| 22:13.17 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Especially since I don't think the sysconfig is ready for release yet |
| 22:13.58 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: That good then. Since tt'll probably not be in the upcoming uClibc 0.9.17 release. strfmon isn't gonna be ready |
| 22:14.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I've been poking around in ogle and this is what I've found so far |
| 22:15.15 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you have byte code that indicates a simple programming language - basically math functions and jump functions |
| 22:15.53 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: The jump functions just tell you to play a certain cell of data from the vob, which is your still or mpeg data, or whatever |
| 22:16.24 | sorphin | right |
| 22:16.37 | sorphin | Morn: i meant quite a bit older than you :P |
| 22:16.46 | sorphin | Morn: you're young ;p |
| 22:17.06 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: and eventually, one of the commands jump you to the title track |
| 22:28.51 | Morn | is there a simple cvs command to sync everything (not update, get it again) |
| 22:30.11 | CosmicPenguin | rm -rf; cvs co |
| 22:30.33 | sorphin | only prob there |
| 22:30.38 | sorphin | is you need to know hte path again :P |
| 22:30.46 | sorphin | if you nuke hte CVS dir |
| 22:30.54 | Morn | oh |
| 22:31.00 | Morn | just nuke everything but the CVS dir |
| 22:31.04 | sorphin | so don't nuke the CVS dir ;) |
| 22:31.34 | sorphin | unless it's uClibc or busybox |
| 22:31.39 | sorphin | in which case |
| 22:31.44 | sorphin | get that virus off your machine ;) |
| 22:31.50 | kergoth | hehe |
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| 22:40.44 | Morn | hmmm |
| 22:40.51 | sorphin | mmh |
| 22:40.59 | Morn | to get it to work I nuked everything but CVS but then you need to do cvs co buildroot-tux |
| 22:41.05 | Morn | and it creates a new dir |
| 22:41.15 | Morn | so I'm in ~user/buildroot-tux/buildroot-tux |
| 22:41.24 | sorphin | so, cd to the 2nd one |
| 22:41.26 | sorphin | and mv * .. |
| 22:41.29 | Morn | yeah |
| 22:41.34 | Morn | well, I'm lazy :-) |
| 22:41.38 | sorphin | :P |
| 22:41.48 | sorphin | obviously, ms sony drive :P |
| 22:41.57 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dvd/ |
| 22:43.11 | Morn | is it just me, but ftp.us.kernel.org never seems to resolve properly in the make and if I change it to ftp.kernel.org it works fine |
| 22:49.58 | sorphin | bbl, going home now |
| 23:06.04 | MonMotha | ftp.us has got to be one of the worse mirrors of kernel.org |
| 23:06.24 | MonMotha | at least all the ones that I've used |
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