| 00:01.30 | CosmicPenguin | and he borrowed much of it |
| 00:01.50 | CosmicPenguin | Check out PicoGUIs calibration stuff - its very good |
| 00:02.09 | file | :) |
| 00:02.25 | mastermnd | CosmicPenguin: THANK YOU! :) That K8000 i/o board is just what I need! |
| 00:02.31 | CosmicPenguin | Eh> |
| 00:02.32 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 00:03.00 | mastermnd | you posted a link a day or 2 ago. I just caught it as I was going through the logs.. the alarm system thing.. |
| 00:03.43 | CosmicPenguin | Oh - wow |
| 00:03.46 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, pretty cool huh? |
| 00:04.14 | CosmicPenguin | That must have been the world record for the longest time for a response to a IRC comment |
| 00:04.15 | mastermnd | very cool.. any you can chain up to 4 of 'em off your lpt port.. that's alot of IOs |
| 00:04.40 | mastermnd | hehe.. I just lurk, and scroll through the backlog when I get a chance.. |
| 00:06.38 | CosmicPenguin | I thought those keychains were way wicked cool |
| 00:06.41 | CosmicPenguin | Those would be fun to have |
| 00:07.08 | mastermnd | the remotes? |
| 00:07.20 | CosmicPenguin | Especially if I could figure out how to unlock / open my front door with one |
| 00:07.41 | mastermnd | I'd been thinking about that in the past.. |
| 00:07.49 | mastermnd | RF makes me too nervous though.. |
| 00:07.55 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: thanks I will checkout picogui's calib stuff |
| 00:08.11 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: its good stuff (but mainly because it was stolen from Microwindows.... :P) |
| 00:08.17 | jacques | lol |
| 00:08.25 | scanline | haha |
| 00:08.48 | scanline | it ended up getting modified quite a bit |
| 00:09.02 | file | scanline turned it from an orange into a peach |
| 00:09.10 | file | it's still roughly orange in color, but totally different |
| 00:09.19 | CosmicPenguin | Well, it was Bradley LaRonde's code |
| 00:09.29 | mastermnd | CosmicPenguin: I was thinking along the lines of a spring-loaded selenoid to act as a deadbolt. then it stays locked when the power's out. but then you have to have one door still use a regular key so you can get in and out when the power's out.. |
| 00:10.33 | CosmicPenguin | I would be cool with it just opening the door, like if I was carrying in groceries |
| 00:10.37 | CosmicPenguin | I could still lock it manually |
| 00:11.11 | mastermnd | I was thinking lock and all - push the button on my way to the door, then just have to nudge it open. |
| 00:11.32 | mastermnd | of course the screen would still be a problem.. |
| 00:12.05 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, fun with electronics |
| 00:13.07 | mastermnd | yup.. lots of plans, little time.. home automation is cool.. |
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| 15:20.15 | sorphin | prpplague: morning mr pos |
| 15:20.28 | prpplague | sorphin: morning crack baby |
| 15:21.23 | sorphin | prpplague: looks like that frame's just gonna be anoher hack toy, since it's the kodak that has the CF slot, and i'm not paying over $3xx for a kodak.. (found a place that has em for $179, but they're sold out) |
| 15:22.25 | prpplague | sorphin: agreed |
| 15:23.43 | sorphin | personally i think the kodak one looks better, cuz it looks more like a real frame.. if the polaroid was smaller and didn't have that matte around it |
| 15:23.56 | sorphin | tho prolly could fake the server side crap if you knew what they did |
| 15:26.18 | sorphin | anyways |
| 15:26.39 | sorphin | prpplague: what're you trying to break today? (besides that scanner w/ a sledge hammer) |
| 15:29.16 | prpplague | sorphin: still working on the imaging project |
| 15:29.21 | prpplague | sorphin: it really sucks |
| 15:29.27 | prpplague | sorphin: just not my cup of tea |
| 15:29.32 | sorphin | sounds like it |
| 15:34.12 | CosmicPenguin | good morning |
| 15:38.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning term-terror |
| 15:38.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 15:38.31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: whats cookin at censoft today? |
| 15:42.47 | sorphin | prpplague: you didn't see the hot coals they're making them all sit on now? |
| 15:43.42 | CosmicPenguin | hehe |
| 15:43.44 | CosmicPenguin | funny |
| 15:44.09 | sorphin | roasted penguin |
| 15:44.27 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:44.56 | sorphin | fine by me, you just won't hear any results of any testing done on the dvd drive ;p |
| 15:46.46 | CosmicPenguin | ok, I'll put you on probation then |
| 15:46.52 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:47.23 | sorphin | why in testing would a drive one time show up CLV and hte next time CAV ? |
| 15:50.39 | CosmicPenguin | Bad drivers? |
| 15:51.54 | sorphin | actually oddly enough it changed after finding dma was mysteriously turned off |
| 15:52.09 | sorphin | take the drive forever to get up to 24x reading :P |
| 15:52.25 | sorphin | so i wouldn't really adv it for that |
| 15:52.42 | sorphin | i found a firmware that'll make it burn all media at 2x |
| 15:52.47 | sorphin | well |
| 15:52.49 | sorphin | all dvd media |
| 15:52.51 | sorphin | thatis |
| 15:53.26 | sorphin | so that should be interesting, if i can burn decent quality 1x media at 2x |
| 15:53.31 | sorphin | i'll be quite pleased ;) |
| 15:55.29 | sorphin | digiboy |
| 15:55.36 | kergoth | hey |
| 15:55.47 | sorphin | back under the whip again yet? |
| 15:55.53 | kergoth | hehh |
| 15:55.54 | kergoth | naw |
| 15:55.56 | kergoth | its dead here today |
| 15:55.58 | kergoth | not a damn thing to do |
| 15:56.07 | kergoth | which is good, since i'm not entirely conscious yet |
| 15:56.13 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:56.20 | kergoth | hows it goin? |
| 15:56.57 | sorphin | eating breakfast, hitting a firmware page, trying to figure out what to do w/ the ceiva exactly, plotting out my testing on the dvd drive today |
| 15:57.02 | sorphin | s/today/tonight/ |
| 15:57.24 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: document everything you do, will ya? |
| 15:57.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: fyi, http://firmwares.co.uk/ |
| 15:57.41 | sorphin | v1.33 (RPC-1 + 2x for all) |
| 15:57.41 | sorphin | Enable any media to burn @ 2x on DVR-A04/104 |
| 15:57.42 | sorphin | :) |
| 15:57.47 | sorphin | indeed i will |
| 15:58.13 | sorphin | even if yo udon't use that firmware, you *do* want to upgrade to 1.32 |
| 15:58.19 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats great - but I does it work with the penguin? |
| 15:58.24 | sorphin | else if you bring any 4x media anywhere near the drive |
| 15:58.38 | sorphin | you'll kill the drive ;) |
| 15:59.09 | sorphin | the drive will burn under linux, i already know that.. you just can't author under the penguin |
| 15:59.16 | sorphin | unless you wine a lot :P |
| 16:05.37 | CosmicPenguin | alright |
| 16:06.07 | sorphin | s/can/can't/ |
| 16:06.46 | CosmicPenguin | See? Everyone knew what I meant |
| 16:07.37 | sorphin | feel free to test for yourself if you want, doesn't matter to me either way |
| 16:07.56 | CosmicPenguin | no, I actually appreciate your input |
| 16:08.29 | sorphin | if nothing else, i am good at finding flaws in things ;) |
| 16:09.56 | sorphin | if it works, we'll be region free and be able to get away w/ more media wise.. (i'll prolly grab a 1x blank at compuseless or something), if it does 2x on that fine, then it should be fine w/ the Accu media |
| 16:12.26 | CosmicPenguin | Kewl |
| 16:12.38 | sorphin | whoa |
| 16:12.42 | CosmicPenguin | region free is always good |
| 16:13.09 | sorphin | someone made their own "digital pic frame" out of an old apple Duo.. (just found it).. actually looks good too, heh |
| 16:13.11 | sorphin | yup |
| 16:13.14 | sorphin | t'is |
| 16:13.35 | sorphin | when i got hte thinkpad, they hadn't made a patch for the firmware ver my dvd drive has |
| 16:13.53 | sorphin | so i mailed the guy and guineapigged *grin*, hey it worked.. |
| 16:14.06 | CosmicPenguin | I still wanna get that Apex DVD drive |
| 16:14.16 | sorphin | drive? |
| 16:15.50 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005UWNO/ref=sr_aps_dvd_1_2/026-3432728-4750041 |
| 16:15.55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I meant player |
| 16:16.08 | sorphin | ahh.. was gonna say.. |
| 16:16.20 | sorphin | ahh |
| 16:16.29 | sorphin | futurama fan eh? |
| 16:16.49 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005OL9E/ref=_/026-3432728-4750041 |
| 16:16.56 | sorphin | reminds me, i should check for the buffy stuff over there |
| 16:16.58 | CosmicPenguin | I would absolutely *love* to get those DVD sets |
| 16:17.06 | sorphin | since htey have more seasons out in europe than the US |
| 16:17.33 | CosmicPenguin | I see season 1, 4 and 5 on Amazon.co.uk |
| 16:17.55 | sorphin | they only have 1 2 and maybe 3 over here |
| 16:17.56 | CosmicPenguin | and 2 and 3 |
| 16:18.13 | sorphin | actually i think 3 is just coming out soon.. |
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| 16:34.14 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:34.24 | sorphin | for less |
| 16:34.26 | sorphin | doh |
| 16:34.38 | sorphin | 100 Pack 4.7GB Accu DVD-R (Silver/Purple) |
| 16:34.40 | sorphin | $84 |
| 16:34.53 | sorphin | w/ free gnd shipping |
| 16:35.03 | sorphin | meritline wants $104 |
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| 17:03.50 | sorphin | re tim |
| 17:08.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh , if you want a fast cd burner.. and have staples nearby, just noticed this on the list |
| 17:08.21 | sorphin | 488960 cendyne 40x12x48 burner $59.98 - $50 mir = $9.98 |
| 17:10.41 | kergoth | $10? heh, hell of a deal |
| 17:10.53 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:10.57 | sorphin | kergoth: haven't looked at the list yet? |
| 17:11.09 | kergoth | naw |
| 17:11.09 | kergoth | url? |
| 17:11.52 | sorphin | http://www.aliendeals.com/blackfridaysales.htm tho that one doesn't list the dvd drive, but the one i have does |
| 17:12.25 | kergoth | hmm, price match game does seem teh way to do it |
| 17:12.36 | kergoth | i fucking hate fighting the crowds |
| 17:12.37 | sorphin | kergoth: the dvd drive bit i mention is the Cendyne DVR-104 (pioneer drive), for $179 i think it was, final price after friday and a $50 MIR |
| 17:13.07 | jjshoe | you can get that at your local staples for $200 after the mail in |
| 17:13.11 | jjshoe | if you dont want to pay shipping |
| 17:14.15 | sorphin | umm |
| 17:14.15 | sorphin | what shipping? |
| 17:14.15 | sorphin | i was talking about local ;) |
| 17:14.15 | jjshoe | oh ok |
| 17:14.15 | jjshoe | *shrug* |
| 17:14.15 | sorphin | the dvd drive is at officemax for $179 ;) |
| 17:14.15 | sorphin | friday w/ the rebate |
| 17:14.15 | jjshoe | cool |
| 17:14.15 | sorphin | there's no local staples here, so.. |
| 17:14.16 | jjshoe | i got a nice usb2 external 120 gig from staples for $90 |
| 17:14.28 | jjshoe | i missed all the 80's going at $30 |
| 17:14.31 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:14.47 | jjshoe | however i've found that you can use the usb cdrom casing for ide drives just fine |
| 17:15.13 | sorphin | less than i paid for the drive i got |
| 17:16.31 | jjshoe | shoulda mailed one to your workplace :) |
| 17:16.32 | sorphin | </hindsight> |
| 17:16.32 | sorphin | as long as these stupid things take, it doesn't really matter too much |
| 17:16.37 | sorphin | my damn $30 m$/xbox rebate came back faster |
| 17:16.43 | sorphin | and i mailed them all on the same day :P |
| 17:16.49 | sorphin | i got it last week |
| 17:17.31 | sorphin | ha |
| 17:17.41 | sorphin | no staples' w/in 100 miles of me :P |
| 17:32.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: check it out, we got the board registered - http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/?action=list&id=254 |
| 17:33.04 | sorphin | Tech Specs: |
| 17:33.04 | sorphin | - SA1110 B4 |
| 17:33.04 | sorphin | - 2x 28F128J3a-150 Flashes (16MB total) |
| 17:33.04 | sorphin | - 2x SAMSUNG K4S5161632C-TC75 256MBit SDRAMs (64MB total) |
| 17:33.06 | sorphin | - MAX3229 @ seial port #1 |
| 17:33.10 | sorphin | not bad ;) |
| 17:33.14 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:33.19 | prpplague | thats the main board |
| 17:33.36 | prpplague | sorphin: of course all of the sa-1110 pins are available on the header |
| 17:33.36 | sorphin | who's stefan ? |
| 17:33.45 | prpplague | sorphin: my partner in .de |
| 17:33.49 | sorphin | ahh |
| 17:33.54 | sorphin | the alternate prpplague |
| 17:34.18 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, naw, but he is a riot though |
| 17:34.41 | prpplague | sorphin: he is this huge austrian |
| 17:34.51 | sorphin | ah, so he doesn't share your affinity for POS devices? ;) |
| 17:34.57 | prpplague | sorphin: naw |
| 17:35.00 | sorphin | prpplague: hey now.. my family is from over there ;) |
| 17:35.04 | sorphin | so watch what you say ;) |
| 17:35.39 | prpplague | sorphin: only good things |
| 17:35.45 | sorphin | hmm |
| 17:35.49 | prpplague | sorphin: we met at OLS |
| 17:35.50 | sorphin | a nice empty web dit :P |
| 17:35.51 | sorphin | dir |
| 17:36.01 | sorphin | http://hackkit.eletztrick.de |
| 17:36.06 | sorphin | Index of / |
| 17:36.08 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:36.51 | prpplague | sorphin: yep, still on the way |
| 17:37.08 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm planning to grab thehackkit.com |
| 17:37.11 | sorphin | how much? :P |
| 17:37.51 | prpplague | sorphin: the core board will be $400, and a complete dev kit $450 |
| 17:37.56 | sorphin | ugh |
| 17:37.59 | sorphin | count me out :P |
| 17:38.27 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well you try finding a SA dev kit for less than $1k |
| 17:38.43 | jjshoe | thats a bad url |
| 17:38.48 | sorphin | jjshoe: i just said that |
| 17:39.01 | prpplague | sorphin: the cost will come down as the qty increases |
| 17:39.05 | sorphin | ~fishslap jjshoe |
| 17:39.06 | | ACTION slaps jjshoe up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 17:39.31 | prpplague | sorphin: i already have the first 200 units sold to universities and tech schools for embedded linux training |
| 17:39.39 | sorphin | prpplague: any chance you can hook up your fellow tuxscreen/elinux "partners"? ;) |
| 17:39.43 | jjshoe | of all the ccheap shit im intrested in this # 1 http://www.chipcenter.com/circuitcellar/july99/c79bl1.htm home automation is screamed by this |
| 17:41.05 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:41.07 | sorphin | cute |
| 17:41.20 | prpplague | jjshoe: nice, but they could have done even better by using the bootrom socket |
| 17:41.46 | jjshoe | prpplague yeah.. i thought i saw a site one that did, but ir ecently lost all m7y bookmarks |
| 17:42.41 | sorphin | jjshoe: ok, hold out your fingers, typoboy ;) |
| 17:42.55 | jjshoe | im in the process of dressing |
| 17:43.00 | jjshoe | have a class in a few minutes |
| 17:43.07 | sorphin | ah, fun fun |
| 17:44.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: just read back |
| 17:44.32 | CosmicPenguin | Rock on on the device - its nice looking |
| 17:44.42 | jjshoe | hrum? |
| 17:45.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: why is it all arm gear costs exactly an arm? :P |
| 17:45.11 | jjshoe | lol |
| 17:45.38 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: because if you are willing to pay that much for a development board, they know they've got a sucker |
| 17:45.43 | sorphin | true |
| 17:46.07 | sorphin | i think prpplague intentionally avoided my question about the hookup *grin* |
| 17:46.28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah |
| 17:46.36 | CosmicPenguin | or rather, sorphin: yeah |
| 17:46.39 | sorphin | hehe |
| 17:46.46 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats what happens when you get too big for your friends |
| 17:47.15 | sorphin | speaking of friends |
| 17:47.33 | sorphin | figured sjhill would have appeared sometime this week |
| 17:47.51 | sorphin | guess i gotta mail him |
| 17:47.53 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, just busy |
| 17:48.21 | sorphin | prpplague: quit scanning pictures of your arse to wallpaper the boss's office w/ :P |
| 17:48.44 | prpplague | sorphin: once i get the initial 50 sold and cash in hand, i'll start a "hardware for projects" program |
| 17:49.03 | sorphin | he already sees it every monday morning when you go in for your weekly ahem... "meeting" |
| 17:49.27 | sorphin | prpplague: cool |
| 17:49.30 | prpplague | sorphin: ha ha |
| 17:49.36 | prpplague | sorphin: no board for you |
| 17:51.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: just don't wait too long - or else all the fun will have already been had |
| 17:52.13 | prpplague | jjshoe: that project would have been even cooler if the firmware was loaded via punch card :) |
| 17:52.13 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: so if there is no CF, how do you get new pictures on the thing? |
| 17:52.37 | jjshoe | prpplague hrm? |
| 17:52.50 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: modem via their service.., hence why it's becoming an arm hack device |
| 17:53.01 | CosmicPenguin | damn - thats not very convienient |
| 17:53.03 | sorphin | unless i knew how to emulate their "headend server" |
| 17:53.06 | CosmicPenguin | must be why they didn't sell |
| 17:53.09 | prpplague | s/think/thing |
| 17:53.15 | CosmicPenguin | JCL rules! |
| 17:53.16 | sorphin | and unlucky for me |
| 17:53.31 | sorphin | i missed when compgeeks had the kodak frame on "sale" |
| 17:53.52 | sorphin | the "non-networked" version |
| 17:54.13 | prpplague | jjshoe: i have a ir device i made that lets you use a receipt or calculator paper roll and a hole punch to encode 8 bit data |
| 17:54.14 | sorphin | course, i wasn't even messing w/ embedded back then |
| 17:54.31 | jjshoe | lol |
| 17:54.56 | prpplague | jjshoe: the average roll you can get about 1k of data |
| 17:55.23 | jjshoe | damn |
| 17:55.42 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: speaking of receipts |
| 17:55.53 | sorphin | local radio station has htis up on their website |
| 17:55.54 | sorphin | http://www.kpnt.com//pics/woody/jehad.gif |
| 17:56.22 | sorphin | extra / in the paste, but it don't matter.. |
| 18:01.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i guess i could do a developer package for $99 |
| 18:01.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: atlest i'd get some money |
| 18:01.33 | file | CosmicPenguin: O.O |
| 18:01.39 | file | oops wrong person |
| 18:01.41 | file | prpplague: O.O |
| 18:02.35 | file | Enjoy your food. |
| 18:08.37 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, well - thus the the lament of the poor hacker |
| 18:08.53 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone feel like recommending a Linux friendly portable MP3 player? |
| 18:12.22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: would if i knew of one |
| 18:13.15 | file | CosmicPenguin: mmm can't say I know of one... |
| 18:15.24 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - my two top sources, denied! |
| 18:16.22 | sorphin | i know the nomad uses an ISD200 usb-> ide deal, and that's linux driverable |
| 18:16.43 | sorphin | dunno what all you can do w/ the whole player linuxy |
| 18:17.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i thought you were anti mp3 anyways? since only people that "steal music" use mp3s :P |
| 18:28.59 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.archos.com/lang=en//products/prw_500204.html?country=us |
| 18:29.06 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did I say that |
| 18:29.16 | CosmicPenguin | No - I just prefer ogg whenever available |
| 18:29.51 | file | is $34 for a 64mb MMC card a good deal? |
| 18:30.03 | sorphin | heh, another digital picture frame.. nicer looking than the kodak/ceiva, and has smartmedia and a cf slot |
| 18:30.11 | sorphin | can't find any specs on the internals tho.. |
| 18:30.22 | sorphin | DF-560 "DigiFrame" |
| 18:31.01 | file | http://www.soyocom.com.tw/esoyocom/product/product2.htm |
| 18:31.04 | file | there's a little info... |
| 18:31.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: seen those.. i'm a lil leary of carrying around a 20gig HD.. stabilty wise ;) |
| 18:32.06 | sorphin | file: ya.. i was looking for any proc info.. i.e. if it's an ARM or proprietary |
| 18:32.08 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: how come? |
| 18:32.20 | CosmicPenguin | the frame has a rs232 connection - thats good news |
| 18:32.56 | sorphin | yeah, damn thing's $400 tho, and another hard to finder |
| 18:33.02 | CosmicPenguin | Big screen, menuing system, transition effects - sound like a MMU is involved? |
| 18:33.03 | sorphin | heh, there's a 17" version |
| 18:33.09 | sorphin | that costs bout $3k |
| 18:33.09 | jjshoe | correct me if im wrong |
| 18:33.14 | jjshoe | but why not chop up an old laptop? |
| 18:33.17 | sorphin | and can play mpeg1 movies.. heh |
| 18:33.24 | sorphin | jjshoe: saw that on /. |
| 18:33.41 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: then it probably does have a MMU - prolly ARM or MIPS |
| 18:34.01 | CosmicPenguin | That wood panel picture frame is butt ugly, though |
| 18:34.03 | jjshoe | i have a laptop mounted beneath the cabnet behind the sink |
| 18:34.09 | jjshoe | so when your doing dishes you can watch movies |
| 18:34.12 | sorphin | and if it's $500.. prolly a mips ;) |
| 18:34.27 | sorphin | s/mips/arm/ |
| 18:34.40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: true, it has replaceable "frames" |
| 18:35.56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: well, an ARM should be easy enough to smack around |
| 18:36.05 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:36.13 | sorphin | just the cost of these things suck |
| 18:36.16 | CosmicPenguin | but I'm not spending $500 bucks to find out |
| 18:36.21 | sorphin | exactly |
| 18:36.33 | CosmicPenguin | My CEO contributes to a project that hacked the firmware on that Archos device, BTW |
| 18:36.44 | sorphin | if i could snag a cheap kodak/DF-560, i'd actually *use* it |
| 18:36.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh, cool |
| 18:36.58 | sorphin | hacked how? |
| 18:37.47 | file | sorphin: http://www.the-gadgeteer.com/digiframe-df560-review.html |
| 18:37.50 | file | that's a review with actual pictures... |
| 18:38.00 | sorphin | prpplague: yo |
| 18:38.08 | sorphin | prpplague: found another soon to be out frame |
| 18:38.08 | file | wow, nice form |
| 18:38.17 | sorphin | but can't find proc specs |
| 18:38.21 | file | even screenshots |
| 18:38.21 | prpplague | hmm |
| 18:38.41 | sorphin | prpplague: DF-560 |
| 18:39.14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: they replaced the firmware from scratch. Why, I have no idea |
| 18:39.25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh. weird.. |
| 18:40.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what ya think about a $99 dev package for 20 or 30 units? |
| 18:40.27 | sorphin | prpplague: you mean allocating 20 or 30 units at that price? |
| 18:40.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: is there any value beyond the hackability? |
| 18:40.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I mean, the tuxscreen functions as a phone, so it still has value when you are tired of it |
| 18:41.02 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:41.40 | CosmicPenguin | heh - that reviewer was bitching because the frame only had a serial connection, and not USB or firewire |
| 18:41.42 | CosmicPenguin | boo-hoo |
| 18:41.50 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:41.57 | sorphin | hey, least it has serial :P |
| 18:42.06 | sorphin | and w/ the cf/sm slot |
| 18:42.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, its like a trizeps or nano engine, its a core board, its meant to be build into something |
| 18:42.13 | sorphin | that's a lot right there |
| 18:42.46 | file | evil... a 4 port internal pci router card |
| 18:43.03 | sorphin | file: more like scary |
| 18:43.50 | file | http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=AL500P |
| 18:44.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Well, say I was trying to explain it to a fiance who would rather spend the money on a wedding? |
| 18:44.15 | sorphin | file: that's scary |
| 18:44.41 | sorphin | hehe |
| 18:45.01 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you don't need a fancy wedding ;) |
| 18:45.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you don't need a wedding :] |
| 18:45.32 | CosmicPenguin | file: thats kinda cool. Toss in a built in DHCP server, and I'm there |
| 18:45.46 | file | CosmicPenguin: yeah |
| 18:45.54 | file | maybe it's in the software? |
| 18:46.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah, but I already bought the ring and what not.... it sure would be a shame to drop everything now |
| 18:46.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: put that on a thin client and you can create an all in one device, print server, router, vpn device, switch |
| 18:46.40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: um.. you don't need to not have the ring, to not have a BIG wedding |
| 18:46.50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: get a belly piecing with the ring |
| 18:46.50 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: just get married at city hall or something :P |
| 18:46.52 | file | integrated network firewall... |
| 18:47.04 | sorphin | file: interesting lil toy for $30 |
| 18:47.11 | file | sorphin: aye |
| 18:47.28 | CosmicPenguin | I think we're losing sight of the original argument |
| 18:47.28 | file | http://www.leadman.com.tw/english/al500p.HTM |
| 18:47.32 | sorphin | i really do need to chekc compgeeks more often |
| 18:47.38 | CosmicPenguin | As insightful as those comments are |
| 18:47.55 | file | sorphin: Compgeeks is where I found that MMC for cheap |
| 18:47.56 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: her parents aren't paying anything? |
| 18:48.17 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no, they are paying for everything |
| 18:48.28 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but you know how it is (or maybe you don't) |
| 18:48.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nope, never actually made it that far.. |
| 18:48.47 | file | why am I looking at a router?!?!? I've got a hub in 'da mail |
| 18:49.02 | sorphin | file: nope, customs stole that too |
| 18:49.08 | file | sorphin: I got another sent out |
| 18:49.14 | sorphin | they stole that one too |
| 18:49.22 | file | sorphin: actually it hasnt' |
| 18:49.27 | file | sorphin: actually it hasn't been sent yet :p |
| 18:49.31 | sorphin | ok |
| 18:49.35 | sorphin | they WILL steal it ;p |
| 18:49.39 | sorphin | no toys for f1l3 |
| 18:49.45 | file | hahahaha |
| 18:49.53 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:49.54 | file | and my new video card? and PCI USB card? and my RAM? |
| 18:50.00 | sorphin | 128MB USB Pen Drive $49.00 |
| 18:50.04 | prpplague | sorphin: that new frame is $549 |
| 18:50.10 | sorphin | prpplague: actually less |
| 18:50.15 | sorphin | if you shop around |
| 18:50.20 | CosmicPenguin | But it plays MPEG1 |
| 18:50.25 | CosmicPenguin | </sarcastic> |
| 18:50.52 | file | what's Wake up on LAN? |
| 18:51.02 | sorphin | you ping the mac addr |
| 18:51.05 | sorphin | and the machien wakes up |
| 18:51.08 | file | uh huh |
| 18:51.10 | sorphin | persay |
| 18:51.21 | sorphin | file: i'm serious |
| 18:51.36 | file | just wondering something... |
| 18:51.40 | sorphin | the machine waits for a specific type of packet addressed to it's mac |
| 18:51.48 | sorphin | when it gets it, it "wakes up" |
| 18:51.54 | file | on Win2k it detects when connected to a network on newer NICs, how does that work? |
| 18:52.42 | file | on my friend's 2k machine, when the cable is unplugged it says "Network cable unplugged" |
| 18:53.12 | prpplague | sorphin: you can get the hack kit and drop a lcd on it for less than $500 |
| 18:53.44 | sorphin | prpplague: but when? :P |
| 18:54.07 | prpplague | sorphin: mid-jan |
| 18:54.44 | sorphin | prpplague: how much adapting will armlinux need? |
| 18:54.55 | prpplague | sorphin: hmmm, let me think....... |
| 18:55.00 | prpplague | sorphin: none? |
| 18:55.13 | sorphin | well |
| 18:55.25 | sorphin | it'd need a driver of some sort for whatever lcd gets smacked on |
| 18:55.33 | prpplague | sorphin: the hack kit is nothing more than the assabet reference design on a custom pcb |
| 18:55.48 | CosmicPenguin | mmm.... assabet |
| 18:56.03 | sorphin | never heard of assabet |
| 18:56.05 | prpplague | sorphin: no, because the sa-1110 already has a lcd driver, all you need to do is plug in the lcd timming |
| 18:56.09 | sorphin | but then, i'm not as army as you ;) |
| 18:56.41 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, the ARM pretty much has everything worked out |
| 18:57.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: UCB1200, right? |
| 18:57.15 | CosmicPenguin | That chip driver could use some serious overhaul |
| 18:57.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no, we dropped the ucb |
| 18:57.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: what are you using for digital->analog then? |
| 18:57.34 | sorphin | prpplague: when i said driver, i meant framebuffer code, etc.. plus what lcds can it support? |
| 18:57.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nothing |
| 18:57.53 | prpplague | sorphin: all that is already there in the assabet |
| 18:58.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm.... so sound and touchscreen will be add on packages? |
| 18:58.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this is strictly a core board |
| 18:58.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 18:58.30 | sorphin | prpplague: got a link to anything about "assabet"? :P |
| 18:58.33 | sorphin | since i'm in the dark here |
| 18:58.37 | prpplague | ibot: assabet |
| 18:58.38 | | it has been said that assabet is http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/Linux%20On%20Assabet |
| 18:58.56 | sorphin | umm |
| 18:59.04 | sorphin | not it isn't |
| 18:59.13 | sorphin | Site Error |
| 18:59.13 | sorphin | An error was encountered while publishing this resource. |
| 18:59.13 | sorphin | Resource not found |
| 18:59.14 | sorphin | Sorry, the requested resource does not exist |
| 18:59.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: its basically the Intel reference platform - its almost idential to 99% of the ARM devices on the planet today |
| 19:00.11 | CosmicPenguin | In fact, the Tuxscreen is pretty damn close, with the exception of the telcom chip |
| 19:00.17 | sorphin | prpplague: what're you clocking at? |
| 19:01.29 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:01.30 | sorphin | cool |
| 19:01.39 | prpplague | sorphin: the complete info on the reference design for sa-1110 is at http://www.intel.com/design/pca/applicationsprocessors/schems/index.htm |
| 19:01.40 | sorphin | a symbol barcode scanner for 30$ :P |
| 19:01.58 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what was your problem with the 20Gig HD on the MP3 player? |
| 19:02.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, depending on how you handle that device, that seems a bit risky |
| 19:02.43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: why? Because of the heads? |
| 19:02.54 | CosmicPenguin | I would think they would have had that covered |
| 19:02.55 | sorphin | yeah, that might have something to do w/ it |
| 19:03.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all of the pins for the sa-1110 are available on the dual pc/104 headers |
| 19:03.09 | file | laser radio terminal? |
| 19:03.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so you can build anything you want |
| 19:03.21 | sorphin | and if you say, take a normal HD while it's running, and gyro it |
| 19:03.26 | sorphin | it doesn't get very happy |
| 19:03.29 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: after all, the IBM microdrives are designed for portabliity |
| 19:03.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya but still are pretty fragile |
| 19:03.55 | sorphin | file: eh? |
| 19:04.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've had 2 replaced under warranty |
| 19:04.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: true |
| 19:04.28 | CosmicPenguin | Well, I've got a few happy users here at the office, I'll do a little investigation |
| 19:05.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well *you* might be able to build anything you want, but I'm kinda stuck with whatever any other geniuses pull out of their hat |
| 19:05.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.diamondsystems.com/products/proto104 |
| 19:05.41 | file | mmm a Sonicblue Rio 600 for $42, 32mb version |
| 19:06.04 | sorphin | prpplague: i just love places like that |
| 19:06.05 | CosmicPenguin | file: any idea how sonicblue works with !Windows? |
| 19:06.06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed, thats why i want a little exchange program, hardware for projects |
| 19:06.12 | sorphin | no price till you sign up |
| 19:06.36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sonicblue has a serious attitude regarding GPL |
| 19:06.47 | file | CosmicPenguin: ... |
| 19:06.50 | file | what prpplague said |
| 19:06.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i had hell with them over source code to the progear frontpath unit |
| 19:07.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hows about a bluetooth module and a MPEG decoder? :) |
| 19:07.15 | CosmicPenguin | I don't care about their GPL issues, I just want to know if the damn thing will work or not |
| 19:07.16 | sorphin | prpplague: yet they have no probs w/ allowing you to "steal video" aka the replay 4000 |
| 19:07.24 | file | http://rio500.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:07.34 | file | there's experimental code supporting the Rio 600 |
| 19:07.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well, maybe we could get sjhill to get broadcoms new bluetooth chip working |
| 19:08.04 | sorphin | file: plus there's mention of the Rio500 in the kenrel |
| 19:08.05 | sorphin | kernel |
| 19:08.26 | file | sorphin: ic |
| 19:08.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, getting married is just like using drugs, you need to just say NO |
| 19:08.46 | CosmicPenguin | file: yeah, that support looks fairly solid |
| 19:08.54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but I like drugs |
| 19:09.11 | file | the Rio 600 looks neat |
| 19:09.18 | sorphin | prpplague: he doesn't like drugs.. he just like still getting some from his fiancee, which he wouldn't if he stopped the wedding ;p |
| 19:09.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well before long you'll be handing over you pay check to your dealer :) |
| 19:09.41 | sorphin | indeed |
| 19:10.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: Compaq PM-1 Personal Portable Mini-CD/MP3 Player w/Software $54 |
| 19:10.43 | sorphin | dunno anything about it tho, just appeared in a "banner" on compgeeks |
| 19:11.03 | file | it's a CD player that reads CDs with MP3s too |
| 19:11.14 | sorphin | file: like my soulplayer |
| 19:11.41 | sorphin | file: well, he said a portable mp3 player that might be linux friendly |
| 19:11.49 | sorphin | he didn't say what kind :P |
| 19:11.54 | file | oh - it's on Compgeeks too |
| 19:12.04 | sorphin | yes, it is |
| 19:12.18 | file | CosmicPenguin: did that Rio help? |
| 19:12.29 | file | er what do you think... |
| 19:12.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2525542505.html |
| 19:12.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: check that out |
| 19:12.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got a pair of those here |
| 19:13.19 | sorphin | nother big ole POS pda ;) |
| 19:14.07 | CosmicPenguin | There was new RIO software released 2 days ago... :) |
| 19:14.13 | prpplague | sorphin: yep with a barcode scanner |
| 19:14.22 | CosmicPenguin | file: yes it did - I'm not sure what I want to buy |
| 19:14.29 | sorphin | prpplague: but... it's not vaporware w/ a color screen ;) |
| 19:14.32 | file | CosmicPenguin: buy the Rio and tell me what it's like! |
| 19:14.39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: almost the entire unit is off the shell |
| 19:14.40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I've seen that link before |
| 19:15.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: a sim sa-1110 board, generic lcd, sony camcorder battery, dlink cf 802.11b |
| 19:15.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the only thing special is the keyboard and case |
| 19:16.08 | sorphin | prpplague: speaking of vaporware, smacked around Royal lately? |
| 19:16.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm..... and the keyboard has its uses |
| 19:16.25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: definetly |
| 19:16.42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: although i don't like the fact that its not a qwerty style |
| 19:16.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: prolly have to redo the root image from scratch though, right? |
| 19:16.53 | prpplague | sorphin: negative |
| 19:17.17 | sorphin | prpplague: see my Q about clock on the core board ? |
| 19:17.23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya, but from what i can tell its an assabet ref anyway |
| 19:17.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: meh - qwerty is overrated unless you can actually type by touch on the keyboard |
| 19:17.39 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i can ;) |
| 19:17.40 | prpplague | sorphin: no, what? |
| 19:17.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: keyboard might be tricky to interface to |
| 19:17.52 | sorphin | prpplague: running at 133 or 206 ? |
| 19:17.59 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, but you've got little hobbit fingers... :P |
| 19:18.05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no i don't |
| 19:18.16 | prpplague | sorphin: it can be scaled |
| 19:18.20 | prpplague | sorphin: up to 206 |
| 19:18.27 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i've just been typing since i was 5 :P |
| 19:18.33 | sorphin | prpplague: k |
| 19:18.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: they are using a pic processor to do the keyboard |
| 19:19.05 | file | CosmicPenguin: your making me want the Rio now |
| 19:19.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: so you could type by touch on a keyboard as small as the one that prpplague showed us? |
| 19:19.15 | sorphin | any MIPS experts in here other than when sjhill's in here? |
| 19:19.32 | CosmicPenguin | file: I can't decide - Rio or Archo |
| 19:19.32 | prpplague | sorphin: doubt it |
| 19:19.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: it'd take me an hour or so to adapt |
| 19:19.52 | file | CosmicPenguin: RIO!!!! |
| 19:20.12 | file | CosmicPenguin: looks well supported in Linux |
| 19:20.15 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: whichever one can alternately store your pr0n, i say go for it |
| 19:20.36 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, the Archo doubles as a USB storage unit - not that I really care |
| 19:21.02 | file | CosmicPenguin: you must choose |
| 19:22.08 | CosmicPenguin | file: does the Rio have the potential of upgrading the firmware to handle .ogg, or is it all in hardware? |
| 19:22.53 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:22.56 | file | CosmicPenguin: dunno |
| 19:22.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: oddly enough |
| 19:23.16 | sorphin | i searched for Rio + .ogg and came up to a dir /rio/ogg heh |
| 19:24.25 | sorphin | fyi jordan |
| 19:24.28 | sorphin | From: Paul Crossley <pcross@sonicblue.com> |
| 19:24.28 | sorphin | gatofisch: 'Dax Kelson' <dax@gurulabs.com> |
| 19:24.28 | sorphin | Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2002 08:21:31 -0800 |
| 19:24.28 | sorphin | Subject: RE: OGG support in Rio Riot? |
| 19:24.28 | sorphin | Hi Dax, |
| 19:24.28 | sorphin | We have no current plans to support OGG, but our firmware is upgradeable so |
| 19:24.30 | sorphin | that we could add support at some future point in time. Our main concern now |
| 19:24.33 | sorphin | is to support the most widely used codecs and they continue to be MP3, WMA |
| 19:24.34 | sorphin | and Audible. |
| 19:24.36 | sorphin | Thanks, |
| 19:24.39 | file | CosmicPenguin: I don't think it'll ever suppor tOGG |
| 19:24.43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats the most important thing, of course |
| 19:24.48 | sorphin | file: read above |
| 19:24.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: upgradablity is the key |
| 19:25.01 | file | sorphin: I know it's upgradeable, but I doubt they'd do it |
| 19:25.06 | CosmicPenguin | Alright - it looks like the Rio is the one |
| 19:25.16 | CosmicPenguin | http://rioutil.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:25.19 | file | CosmicPenguin: and all for the low low price of $42 USD! without shipping |
| 19:25.20 | sorphin | file: that doesn't mean someone else couldn't hack it in |
| 19:25.31 | CosmicPenguin | file: I'm shooting for the Rio800 |
| 19:25.35 | file | CosmicPenguin: bah |
| 19:25.43 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: there goes that wedding ;) |
| 19:25.53 | file | maybe I can find a review on the 600 |
| 19:27.17 | CosmicPenguin | THe 600 looks good, but 64MB? |
| 19:27.25 | CosmicPenguin | Seriously, beavis..... |
| 19:27.27 | file | you can expand it |
| 19:27.33 | CosmicPenguin | For 150 dollars more, I can get a 20gig hard drive |
| 19:27.39 | file | well pick! |
| 19:27.54 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, upgrade for $199.99 to 128MB |
| 19:29.01 | sorphin | hack it to use a USB "key" :P $50 for a 128M one |
| 19:29.02 | levi_ | Mmmm iPod. |
| 19:29.05 | sorphin | less than $!99 |
| 19:29.14 | sorphin | 199 even |
| 19:29.34 | sorphin | levi_: now don't go steeling s0ftware off the machines in the store ;) |
| 19:31.03 | levi_ | I don't have any room for software on my iPod, it's too full of music. |
| 19:31.20 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:32.06 | CosmicPenguin | file: I'm not buying anything today |
| 19:32.22 | file | CosmicPenguin: bah |
| 19:32.27 | CosmicPenguin | don't bah me |
| 19:32.37 | sorphin | file: he has to clear it w/ his fiancee 1st ;) |
| 19:32.39 | levi_ | My previous mp3 player was a Rio500, which I never used because it didn't even hold a decently-encoded full album and it was a pain to use its software to transfer stuff. |
| 19:33.02 | file | my Cybiko Xtreme's software is... simple |
| 19:33.09 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, but the iPod? Gag me with a spoon.... |
| 19:33.26 | file | it's integrated into Windows - the MMC card shows up as a Removable Device |
| 19:33.31 | file | drag and drop... |
| 19:33.41 | levi_ | CosmicPenguin: What don't you like about it? |
| 19:35.19 | CosmicPenguin | levi: well, first of all, the whole Apple connection |
| 19:35.39 | CosmicPenguin | But the big $400 question is - how well does it with with Linux? |
| 19:38.09 | file | CosmicPenguin: http://www.cybimunk.com/images/Xtreme_MP3_package.jpg |
| 19:38.23 | file | that black thing in the left hand corner is my MP3 player :) |
| 19:38.36 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:38.45 | sorphin | looks like a blob |
| 19:39.02 | file | http://www.cybimunk.com/images/Xtreme_MP3_Sizes.jpg |
| 19:39.06 | file | there it is on the Xtreme |
| 19:39.09 | levi | Doesn't have particularly nice Linux support, but that's not a concern to me since I've got a Mac. |
| 19:40.15 | levi | With that much storage space on the device, though, I rarely connect it to a computer. |
| 19:40.18 | sorphin | levi: sellout ;) |
| 19:40.52 | file | http://www.cybimunk.com/images/Xtreme_MP3_Right.jpg -> a nice side view |
| 19:41.16 | levi | sorphin: I use MacOS, Linux, AND Windows. And I don't feel guilty about it. Ha! |
| 19:41.50 | CosmicPenguin | levi: yeah, well, some of us are cheap |
| 19:42.08 | file | CosmicPenguin: my MP3 player was free :) |
| 19:42.34 | levi | I got a good deal through a friend at Apple, or I probably wouldn't have bought it. |
| 19:44.28 | levi | That, and I've already got a Mac (which cost $300... gotta love surplus sales). But seriously, aside from connections with Apple and its interface to computers, the iPod is a very nice piece of hardware. |
| 19:44.59 | file | uh huh |
| 19:45.09 | file | sorphin: I think he's an agent sent in by Apple to persuade us |
| 19:45.24 | CosmicPenguin | levi: I'm sure it is |
| 19:48.02 | levi | What have you guys got against Apples? I mean, they come with a unix-based OS and you can install Linux on them if you want. |
| 19:48.12 | CosmicPenguin | I have nothing against Apple hardware |
| 19:48.12 | file | levi: nothing :) just bored |
| 19:48.28 | CosmicPenguin | I want an XServe really badly |
| 19:48.51 | CosmicPenguin | But I have hated Apple software most of my life, and there is nothing to stop me now |
| 19:50.35 | levi | See, I started out with Apple software with an apple II clone and a Mac Plus. Then got dragged into DOS and Windows, escaped to Linux, and came back to OS X. I have a love/hate relationship with most software. |
| 19:50.39 | file | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1941076718 |
| 19:51.14 | CosmicPenguin | file: the Rio 800 seems to be not as liked as the Rio 600 |
| 19:51.20 | Russ|werk | apple hardware is just unjustifiably pricey |
| 19:51.35 | file | CosmicPenguin: uh huh |
| 19:51.39 | Russ|werk | I would like to have it for a fair price though |
| 19:52.35 | levi | They're pricey, but I wouldn't say they're unjustifiably so. |
| 19:53.57 | levi | Well, high-end TiBooks, maybe. |
| 19:54.16 | Russ|werk | I haven't seen any "good deals" |
| 19:54.27 | Russ|werk | I can always get a high quality x86 solution for cheaper |
| 19:57.27 | levi | Sure, but then it's a high quality x86 system. If that's what you want, fine. But if you want an Apple computer, they're not insanely priced anymore. |
| 19:58.18 | sorphin | levi: yes htey are |
| 19:59.51 | levi | If 'not cheaper than a comparable x86 system' means insanely priced, then you have a point. |
| 20:00.06 | sorphin | that's exactly what i mean |
| 20:00.24 | CosmicPenguin | file: I'm a bit iffy on the Rio drivers |
| 20:00.24 | levi | That's a silly definition for 'insanely priced', but you can stick with it if you want. |
| 20:00.30 | sorphin | and what they want for a decent machine |
| 20:00.31 | CosmicPenguin | file: though, it might be fun to help develop for them |
| 20:00.32 | sorphin | sucks ass |
| 20:00.34 | file | CosmicPenguin: uh huh |
| 20:02.05 | sorphin | levi: i see it's all Dual G4 now.. heh |
| 20:02.25 | sorphin | $4,599.00 for 2x 1.25ghz |
| 20:02.28 | sorphin | riiight |
| 20:02.41 | sorphin | do they throw in the vasoline? |
| 20:03.01 | CosmicPenguin | file: For $100 bucks more, I can have a 10gig HD |
| 20:03.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: just pick something already :P |
| 20:03.17 | file | CosmicPenguin: so do it - and then pay the $42 for the Rio 600 to experiment with it |
| 20:03.26 | file | your almost as worse as me |
| 20:03.31 | sorphin | ~fishslap cosmicpenguin |
| 20:03.32 | | ACTION slaps cosmicpenguin up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 20:03.39 | levi | Yeah, find me one computer reseller that doesn't have a huge markup on their top-of-the-line system. |
| 20:03.46 | sorphin | levi: umm |
| 20:03.51 | CosmicPenguin | Bah to all of you |
| 20:03.54 | sorphin | levi: i don't buy "prebuilt" machines |
| 20:04.06 | sorphin | peecee wise anyways |
| 20:04.21 | file | CosmicPenguin: make a plan and do it, but tell us the plan first |
| 20:04.42 | sorphin | file: "cuz you love it when a plan comes together?" |
| 20:05.05 | file | sorphin: no - I want to know if he's getting the Rio 600 :p |
| 20:05.21 | sorphin | file: just buy it for him :P |
| 20:05.30 | file | no :p |
| 20:06.20 | file | CosmicPenguin: SO???? |
| 20:08.47 | CosmicPenguin | file: Probably the Archo - I like the size addition |
| 20:08.57 | CosmicPenguin | But I might buy a Rio too - at that price, anything goes |
| 20:09.41 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i.e. the faster pioneer drive will be less than what we're getting this one for |
| 20:09.53 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats the price you pay, I guess |
| 20:10.01 | sorphin | yup |
| 20:10.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:10.31 | sorphin | ibot: slashdot |
| 20:10.42 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 20:10.46 | sorphin | [ibot(ibot@rikers.org)] exceeded allowed forked count: zippy, zsi |
| 20:10.52 | sorphin | wtf |
| 20:10.57 | kergoth | hah |
| 20:11.01 | sorphin | ah well |
| 20:11.02 | kergoth | ibot is a bit hosed atm |
| 20:11.03 | | kergoth: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 20:11.03 | sorphin | Philips' JackRabbit32 DVD/CD-RW External Drive |
| 20:11.06 | file | ibot: slashdot |
| 20:11.13 | file | "_ |
| 20:11.14 | file | :) |
| 20:11.27 | file | works for me |
| 20:11.28 | sorphin | file :someone else musta been querying something |
| 20:11.37 | sorphin | since ibot is multihomed |
| 20:11.42 | file | uh huh |
| 20:11.45 | sorphin | hmm |
| 20:11.51 | sorphin | i thought it was |
| 20:11.54 | sorphin | weird |
| 20:12.08 | sorphin | guess it's just cuz blootbot is crap ;) |
| 20:13.14 | MonMotha | ibot change pi usd to gbp |
| 20:13.25 | MonMotha | awww, it doesn't know what pi dollars is? :) |
| 20:13.30 | sorphin | um |
| 20:13.33 | MonMotha | yep, blootbot is crap :) |
| 20:13.34 | sorphin | even i don't :P |
| 20:13.36 | andersee | ibot: 6*9? |
| 20:13.37 | | i heard 6*9 is 42 |
| 20:13.46 | andersee | hehe |
| 20:13.50 | sorphin | ibot: is andersee really the devil? |
| 20:13.51 | | sorphin: no idea |
| 20:14.05 | sorphin | i think he is |
| 20:14.32 | andersee | ibot: sorphin worships Satan and all his little devils |
| 20:14.33 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, andersee |
| 20:14.33 | sorphin | ~fishslap andersee |
| 20:14.34 | | ACTION slaps andersee up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 20:14.35 | sorphin | afternoon eric |
| 20:14.42 | andersee | hehe |
| 20:14.43 | sorphin | s/c/k/ |
| 20:15.30 | sorphin | andersee: sup mr uCbusyboxlibc? |
| 20:16.09 | andersee | sorphin: not much. Busy making uClibc's ctor/dtor support configurable |
| 20:16.21 | sorphin | uh huh |
| 20:17.07 | andersee | short for constructor and destructor. Like with C++ |
| 20:17.36 | file | oh dingo - Compgeeks is shutdown till December 2nd |
| 20:18.23 | sorphin | of course |
| 20:18.28 | sorphin | andersee: ugh |
| 20:19.03 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: sweet - no more 200 limit, eh? |
| 20:20.29 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I already fixed that. No this is to allow people not using ctors/dtors to entirely eliminate support for them. Can save ~1k per binary. |
| 20:20.31 | file | CosmicPenguin: psst |
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| 20:20.46 | file | andersee: always trying to shrink the binaries eh? |
| 20:21.06 | *** mode/#TuxScreen [+o BZFlag] by ChanServ |
| 20:22.41 | andersee | file: yup. Mainly this is for uclinux folk. When all you have is 1 or 2 MB... |
| 20:22.59 | sorphin | and ever K counts |
| 20:23.01 | sorphin | every |
| 20:24.41 | file | I am billgatus of borg. You will be *erk* General Protection Fault at 0xFFFF0000 |
| 20:25.07 | LIM | lol |
| 20:25.26 | LIM | at 0xDEADBEEF |
| 20:25.46 | sorphin | LIM: eh? |
| 20:25.55 | sorphin | tivo uses that a lot |
| 20:26.15 | LIM | used for memory leak problem debugging mostly... |
| 20:26.34 | sorphin | not why they use it |
| 20:26.47 | LIM | to mark bad things... |
| 20:26.59 | sorphin | still nope |
| 20:27.06 | LIM | why then? |
| 20:27.39 | sorphin | because they're truely sad |
| 20:27.45 | sorphin | they use 0xFEEDBEEF too |
| 20:28.12 | sorphin | and abbafeed |
| 20:28.33 | LIM | where? |
| 20:29.03 | CosmicPenguin | file: what? |
| 20:29.13 | LIM | I won't get a tivo2 unless they transfer my lifetime subscription. |
| 20:29.14 | file | CosmicPenguin: hello |
| 20:29.52 | LIM | you explode in three short bursts? |
| 20:29.52 | file | CosmicPenguin: what's up? |
| 20:29.58 | CosmicPenguin | file: ssdd |
| 20:30.02 | file | CosmicPenguin: ic |
| 20:30.09 | CosmicPenguin | u? |
| 20:30.26 | file | CosmicPenguin: laying in bed feeling miserable, and wishing my USB was up and I had my MMC card |
| 20:30.41 | CosmicPenguin | file: damn |
| 20:31.30 | CosmicPenguin | Hey spanish speaking people, what does this mean: Assine UOL! |
| 20:31.40 | sorphin | LIM: won't ever happen |
| 20:31.45 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: xlate Assine UOL from sp to us |
| 20:31.46 | | no idea, CosmicPenguin |
| 20:31.58 | LIM | sorphin: of course... |
| 20:32.30 | sorphin | ibot: should CP refrain from smoking crack rock for breakfast? |
| 20:32.31 | | wish i knew, sorphin |
| 20:32.44 | sorphin | ibot needs 8ball capability again :P |
| 20:32.44 | | sorphin: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 20:32.49 | sorphin | ibot: shut up |
| 20:32.49 | | sugar quote OKFA |
| 20:32.57 | CosmicPenguin | crack rock? |
| 20:33.14 | CosmicPenguin | Like pop rocks? |
| 20:33.15 | sorphin | from your crack pipe |
| 20:33.27 | CosmicPenguin | Oh.... rock crack! |
| 20:34.19 | CosmicPenguin | And what the hell does 'sugar quote OKFA' stand for? |
| 20:35.43 | sorphin | i have no idea |
| 20:35.51 | sorphin | atleast w/ the bot we used to have in #tivo |
| 20:36.01 | sorphin | telling the bot to shut up, would do just that |
| 20:36.10 | sorphin | it would /ignore you |
| 20:37.44 | CosmicPenguin | You wanna know who is smoking crack? This guy: http://www.developer.com/article.php/1548611 |
| 20:39.06 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i'd tend to agree w/ you |
| 21:03.34 | BZFlag | ibot 8ball |
| 21:03.35 | | BZFlag: are you smoking crack? |
| 21:03.41 | sorphin | :P |
| 21:03.58 | sorphin | ibot: no, but cosmicpenguin is :P |
| 21:03.59 | | sorphin: what are you talking about? |
| 21:04.18 | BZFlag | ~eight ball |
| 21:04.18 | | hmm... eight ball is Without a doubt |
| 21:04.24 | BZFlag | ~eight ball |
| 21:04.24 | | [eight ball] Signs point to yes |
| 21:04.55 | sorphin | :) |
| 21:05.05 | BZFlag | ~forget shut up |
| 21:05.05 | | i forgot shut up, BZFlag |
| 21:05.16 | BZFlag | ~shut up |
| 21:05.17 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, BZFlag |
| 21:05.22 | BZFlag | hmm |
| 21:05.22 | sorphin | ~shutup |
| 21:05.23 | | i haven't a clue, sorphin |
| 21:05.27 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:05.30 | sorphin | doesn't like either |
| 21:05.44 | sorphin | ibot: do you know ANYTHING? |
| 21:05.45 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, sorphin |
| 21:06.39 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: just ignore him |
| 21:06.40 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, CosmicPenguin |
| 21:06.56 | sorphin | ibot: ignore cosmicpenguin |
| 21:06.57 | | i haven't a clue, sorphin |
| 21:06.59 | sorphin | damn |
| 21:07.23 | sorphin | ~fishslap CosmicPenguin |
| 21:07.24 | | ACTION slaps CosmicPenguin up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 21:09.00 | sorphin | [08:59] <CosmicPenguin> I would even wear a tie |
| 21:09.07 | sorphin | you sellout! |
| 21:09.29 | sorphin | gawd.. you even said "Woot!" |
| 21:10.05 | sorphin | the same convo |
| 21:10.06 | sorphin | [11:54] <CosmicPenguin> :) I just got my first penis enlargement spam |
| 21:10.06 | sorphin | [11:55] Action: CosmicPenguin now feels more part of the collective internet experience |
| 21:10.23 | sorphin | bet you felt so proud :P |
| 21:14.07 | CosmicPenguin | It worked too |
| 21:14.13 | CosmicPenguin | Wanna see? |
| 21:14.17 | sorphin | umm |
| 21:14.24 | sorphin | i'll leave that between you and your boss |
| 21:14.52 | sorphin | boss/fiancee, same thing |
| 21:14.59 | sorphin | boredom |
| 21:15.29 | sorphin | found tuxpal because of it, heh |
| 21:16.38 | CosmicPenguin | Did you see cosmicpenguin.com - some socialistic crap |
| 21:16.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: fascist anarchist |
| 21:16.56 | sorphin | ;) |
| 21:17.18 | CosmicPenguin | It expires here in a moht |
| 21:17.30 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:17.44 | CosmicPenguin | Registrant: |
| 21:17.44 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.44 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.44 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.44 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.45 | CosmicPenguin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.48 | sorphin | lot more matches for sorphin since i actually am involved in things now |
| 21:19.36 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you like that tuxpal? |
| 21:19.48 | sorphin | "D'OH" |
| 21:20.09 | sorphin | heh, apparently i have a cd out |
| 21:20.15 | CosmicPenguin | URL? |
| 21:20.16 | sorphin | Sorphin "Apocokalypsens Angel" CD |
| 21:20.17 | sorphin | Price (excluding VAT) : £10.20 |
| 21:20.38 | sorphin | 2nd non me sorphin reference i've found htis year |
| 21:21.00 | sorphin | which is interesting since i made sorphin up back in 1995 |
| 21:21.16 | sorphin | the other ref is some artist in NY named Diane Sorphin |
| 21:21.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:21.20 | CosmicPenguin | Fun |
| 21:21.35 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:22.10 | sorphin | scanline: brag brag brag |
| 21:22.12 | sorphin | 00:20 < scanline> psypete_: I used to hang out in #linuxdc, but not much happened. I helped Sorphin set up linux on his dreamcast so andersee could test code though |
| 21:23.00 | file | not me |
| 21:27.59 | CosmicPenguin | I did one for giggles - it was just some random chick talking on a microphone and typing on IRC at the same time |
| 21:29.00 | LIM | I listened when a guy I knew was interviewed |
| 21:29.58 | CosmicPenguin | wait a second - don't you do interviews? |
| 21:30.04 | LIM | me? |
| 21:30.29 | sorphin | scanline and andersee have |
| 21:30.30 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah you |
| 21:30.37 | LIM | I've never done one. |
| 21:31.03 | sorphin | nope |
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| 22:47.03 | CosmicPenguin | later gator - its holiday time baby |
