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02:48.10file[JamesBond]hello GPSFan
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04:21.50peekhi
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06:35.01anderseeCosmicPenguin: you around?
06:55.59fontenothow set tz in uclibc?
06:56.50fontenot/etc/localtime ?
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07:28.54fontenotno that does not work
07:39.53LIMfontenot: export TZ=EST (or whatever timezone...) (I dunno if this works with ulibc)
07:46.39Russhmm...
07:46.54Russwent through all this trouble to make debian boot nfsroot via pivot_root
07:47.00Russuse a default debian kernel
07:47.02Russbut still:
07:47.12Russnfs: server 192.168.0.10 not responding, still trying (after mounting)
07:47.20sorphinheh
07:47.54Russare you using a stock kernel
07:48.28sorphinwell, using tivo's kernel (tho i bumped it up to 2.4.5)
07:50.07Russdo I need portmap running if I mount with -o nolock
07:50.17LIM|Awayyeah
07:50.27LIM|Awaynfs uses rpc
07:50.35RussI thought the tuxscreen did it without portmap by using -o nolock
07:50.48sorphin-o nolock just means you don't need lockd
07:50.49LIM|Awayhrm...lemme see what I have
07:50.52LIM|Awayyeah
07:50.55LIM|Awaylockd
07:51.36LIM|AwayI dunno how it would work without it
07:51.50sorphinusually won't for me
07:52.12sorphintho
07:52.14Russwhat happens if you restart portmap while its mounted?
07:52.14LIM|Away#insmod sunrpc
07:52.19RussI have that
07:52.20sorphinif it's the kernel mounting
07:52.28sorphinportmap is irrelevant
07:52.50LIM|AwayI didn't run portmap..
07:53.05Russwhat about ro vs rw
07:53.10sorphin?
07:53.15LIM|AwayI used to do this: insmod sunrpc; insmod nfs
07:56.19Russits still sitting there and reading the first block of /sbin/init over and over again
07:56.30LIM|Awayover and over?
07:56.38Russyea
07:56.52LIM|AwayI don't understand
07:56.58Russevery now and then, I get an arp who has 192.168.0.10 or whohas 192.168.0.100
07:57.11RussI can send you an ethereal dump
07:57.16LIM|Awayno responses?
07:57.25Russno, there are responses
07:57.30LIM|Awayoh
07:57.34LIM|Awayroute?
07:57.47anderseefontenot: i.e. echo MST7MDT > /etc/TZ
07:57.49sorphinRuss: same segment ?
07:57.58Russya
07:58.07Russthe ordey is confusing me though
07:58.25sorphinthe what?
07:58.30LIM|Awayoreder?
07:58.33LIM|Awayorder?
07:58.45LIM|Awayof what?
07:58.54Russthe reply
07:59.11Russit goes client: READ Reply XID 0x....
07:59.16LIM|Awaywell, as long as it goes out...
07:59.23Russserver READ Call XID 0x...
07:59.31Russfrag off=2960
07:59.38Russfrag off=1480
08:00.06LIM|Awaycan you mount the pivot root after booting the tuxscreen up all the way?
08:00.14LIM|Away(not to actually pivot)
08:00.21RussI assume so
08:00.25Russthis is an x86 board though
08:00.26LIM|AwayI'd try that...
08:00.35Russusing an initrd image from tftp
08:00.50sorphinheh
08:00.53sorphintftp eh?
08:01.08sorphinthere's a tftp issue i always run into
08:01.08RussI can show you the ethereal dump
08:01.33sorphinRuss: you have ip_no_pmtu_disc set ?
08:01.42Russ*shrug*
08:01.47Russits a LAN
08:01.51sorphinumm
08:01.51Russand its UDP
08:01.54fontenotandersee: thanks!
08:01.54sorphinirrelevant
08:01.54LIM|Awayyay!
08:02.04sorphinRuss: if you're doing tftp from a linux box
08:02.08sorphinyou need to set that
08:02.13Russthe tftp part works great
08:02.28sorphinheh, then you're lucky
08:02.36Russcourse, all those packets are 660b
08:02.56sorphinthe tftp won't ever happen
08:02.59RussI'm not changing ip_no_pmtu_disk anywhere
08:03.00fontenothmm I'm not familiar with that zone format - would california time be PST8PDT ?
08:03.14sorphinfone: yes
08:03.20sorphinfontenot: yes
08:03.23fontenotthanks
08:03.29sorphinand central is CST6CDT
08:03.43fontenotcool it works
08:03.48Russhmm...the cap includes the initrd and kernel, its 10M
08:03.52Russanyone want it?
08:03.58LIM|Awaysorphin: what about indiana?
08:04.08LIM|AwayEST5EST?
08:04.12sorphinheh
08:04.14sorphinno idea
08:04.18LIM|Awayargh
08:04.23sorphini wouldn't live in indiana ;)
08:04.35LIM|AwayI'm am in IN
08:04.40sorphinmy sympathies ;)
08:04.45LIM|AwayI like it
08:04.51sorphin<PROTECTED>
08:04.52LIM|Awayexcept in this instance.
08:04.55LIM|AwayNO
08:04.57LIM|Awayew....
08:05.08LIM|Awaycrime capital
08:05.12sorphinheh
08:05.14sorphinsomething like that
08:05.17LIM|Awaymurder king
08:05.21sorphinGary is Indiana's south compton
08:05.46LIM|Awaylast I heard it's like murdertown USA
08:06.07LIM|AwayI live in Fort Wayne.
08:06.08sorphinLIM|Away: there's other timezone formats, btw
08:06.19LIM|Awayso EST might work?
08:06.34LIM|Awayor GMT+5 or something?
08:06.55LIM|Awaywell, I don't care about it
08:06.57sorphini.e.
08:06.58sorphinAmerica/New_York
08:07.02LIM|Awayoh.
08:07.12sorphinand ummm
08:07.18sorphinEST is != GMT+5
08:07.20LIM|Awaythat's for the dir structure though, ain't it?
08:07.21sorphinit's -5 :P
08:07.24LIM|Awayyeah
08:08.05LIM|AwayI run debian off of my pcmcia HD anyways
08:08.28LIM|Awaymy pcmcia card doesn't always reset correctly
08:08.33LIM|Awaynet card that it
08:08.37LIM|Aways/it/is/
08:09.07LIM|Awayso I boot and have no net sometimes...I have to pull the card in and out and reset just right...
08:09.12LIM|AwayI don't know why
08:10.14LIM|Away03:13:49 up 23 days, 22:36,  1 user,  load average: 0.16, 0.06, 0.01
08:10.17LIM|Awaywhee!
08:12.52sorphin?
08:14.49sorphin[m: did you ever bother w/ getty ?
08:15.46sorphingrr
08:15.48sorphinwrong channel
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20:03.57MonMothawhat prog were the schematics on tuxscreen.net drawn in?
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20:13.13sjhill*wiggle* *wiggle* *smack* *smack*
20:13.27sjhillright on cue :)
20:15.25MonMothahi sjhill
20:15.37MonMothaI guess I'm a luser too
20:16.11sjhillhi MonMotha
20:16.32MonMothasjhill: do you happen to know what prog the schematics on tuxscreen.net were drawn in?
20:17.10sjhilli've never looked at them
20:19.09MonMothago figure
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21:24.01Russmounting 192.168.0.10:/mnt/share/192.168.0.100
21:24.01Russwarning: can't open /etc/mtab: No such file or directory
21:24.01Russnfs: server 192.168.0.10 not responding, still trying
21:24.18file[laptop]must, fix.
21:24.37Russwould it make a differnce if I used nfsv3 instead?
21:25.22sorphinit might
21:28.14Russhow would I go about changing that, the server is running userspace nfs
21:30.26sorphinit would just natively support it the client picks the version to use
21:31.02Russare nested nfs mounts bad?
21:31.20Russie, on the server, I have /mnt/share exported
21:31.29Russand I have /mnt/share/192.168.0.100 exported
21:33.08sorphinnah, you can do that
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21:35.30file[laptop]hi mallum
21:37.56sorphinRuss: only thing you have to remember is to unmount in the right order ;)
21:42.28Russhmm...I moved it to its own mountpoint, same problem
21:42.36Russthe client just ignores the servers replies
21:54.35sorphinhmm
21:54.41sorphinsame version ?
21:59.33sorphingawd.. that "Longhorn" preview is pathetic
22:03.06Mornsorphin: you have it?
22:03.28MornI saw it was in the newsgroups
22:03.34MonMothaat least it doesn't look like something out of fisher price anymore
22:04.09sorphinno
22:04.13sorphinsaw it on /.
22:04.16sorphinMonMotha: it doesn't?
22:04.52sorphinMorn: i have 2k on the thinkpad and on giga for dual booting, but that's as high as i go, no XP (shaddup jordan), nor that longhorn crap
22:05.36MornI have XP on some machines
22:05.45MornWanted to look at the longhorn preview
22:05.56MonMothasorphin: not as badly as XP
22:07.08MonMotha2k is the first, and last, usable version of Windows MS put out
22:07.11MonMothaNT 3.51 was OK too
22:07.16MonMothabut 2k was actually decent
22:10.04sorphingawd that longhorn looks like it should be George Bush Windows :P after all, he flies in that plane w/ horns on it
22:12.31Russok, I switch to 2.4.19 (from 2.4.18)
22:12.32Russand now kmod fails to exec /sbin/modprobe
22:12.44Russkmod: failed to exec /sbin/modprobe -s -k net-pf-10, errno = 2
22:12.58Russif I drop to a shell in the initrd, I can exec modprobe just fine
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22:37.28file[laptop]ARG
22:43.42Russok
22:43.47Russon the nfsroot, I can read little files
22:44.00sorphinnfs3 will allow big files
22:44.20RussI mean, big as in 3.9k
22:45.09RussI read a 1.6k file just fine
22:45.27sorphinheh
22:45.29sorphinweird
22:46.02Russit seems like its not reassembling the fragments
22:46.27Russ'192.168.0.10:/192.168.0.100 /new_root nfs rw,v2,rsize=4096,wsize=4096,hard,udp,lock,addr=192.168.0.10 0 0' is the moutn
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22:47.15Russalso, kmod doesn't complain if I run things from an interactive shell
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23:05.58Russhow can I mount with a different block size
23:24.50sorphinRuss: i.e. rsize=8192,wsize=8192
23:25.10file[laptop]ST: TNG marathon alert!
23:26.56sorphinfile[laptop]: uh.. no kidding :P
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23:44.30MonMothafile[laptop]: really...
23:44.42file[laptop]MonMotha: affirmative
23:45.36MonMothaTNN?
23:45.45file[laptop]yes
23:45.53MonMothawith their patented "image squashing so everybody looks really fat" technology? :)
23:45.59file[laptop]haha
23:46.41Russsorphin: I tried that with -o rsize=800,wsize=800, but it didn't change the block size
23:49.42sorphinumm
23:49.50sorphinyou can't go that low i don't this
23:49.55sorphini think the minimum is 1024
23:51.47Russthe cutoff for it locking up is somewhere between 2.2k and 3.2k
23:53.06Russso its like it can handle one fragment, but not two
23:54.44MonMothabah, just crank the MTU up to 65535 :)
23:55.08Russok, the 1024 part helps
23:55.15Russbut now I'm failing to exec init

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