| 00:03.27 | andin | whoa. :) something got compiled ;) |
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| 00:17.49 | CosmicPenguin | Time to blow this popsicle stand |
| 00:29.24 | andin | hm. seems like besides kernel nothing wants to work ;) starts scrolling some wonderful register dump over the screen ;) |
| 00:34.44 | andin | aha. seems like i needed to erase the flash. kewl! i'm up and running with my own compiled kernel! :) |
| 00:42.17 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:51.47 | andin | aha, and to rebuild the image properly seems like one needs to smash build/root - or is there a cleaner way ? |
| 01:15.26 | andin | interestingly - immediately after the netcard is there, the kbd starts losing characters... |
| 01:20.49 | andin | lovely. so PS-CE2-10 seems to work just fine with 3.3v physical power.. |
| 01:21.18 | andin | ...and aironet 352 as well - but i don't have the access point to test... |
| 01:33.58 | andin | well, i guess enuff with my newbie screams... time to go to bed ;) cya all :) |
| 01:46.24 | jacques | hello |
| 01:47.11 | sorphin | allo frenchy *grin* |
| 01:48.32 | jacques | heh |
| 01:48.54 | sorphin | sorry, had to atleast *once* |
| 01:51.13 | jacques | i wish I did |
| 01:51.47 | sorphin | just got the name? |
| 01:51.58 | jacques | yeah my father is cajun |
| 01:52.01 | sorphin | ahh |
| 01:52.03 | jacques | he speaks cajun |
| 01:52.13 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:52.22 | sorphin | never heard of a cajun language :P |
| 01:52.42 | jacques | well it's like french, but a very different dialect |
| 01:52.51 | sorphin | ah |
| 01:52.58 | jacques | french ppl would probably barely nuderstand it |
| 01:57.34 | jacques | anyone know if we ever figured out the "blue scren" problem? |
| 01:57.36 | jacques | screen |
| 01:57.54 | jacques | that's where starting a fb app from the console results in everything being blue |
| 01:58.08 | jacques | this includes Xfbdev |
| 01:58.38 | jacques | I'm seeing the same effect with slib test apps, which access the fb directly |
| 01:58.42 | jacques | tslib |
| 01:58.46 | jacques | dammit I cant type |
| 01:58.59 | sorphin | you're doing stuff i haven't went near |
| 02:00.16 | jacques | it sucks because I cant start x from the console - have to start it from a remote login for it to look right |
| 02:01.25 | sorphin | hmm.. never had that prob when i was workin on my tuxes |
| 02:03.01 | jacques | which GUIs did you use? |
| 02:03.17 | jacques | picogui? microwindows? |
| 02:03.39 | sorphin | microwindows |
| 02:04.01 | jacques | maybe they figured out how to get around the problem |
| 02:04.04 | sorphin | i quickly went back to inferno ;) |
| 02:06.20 | jacques | wow I think you are the only person I know using inferno :-) |
| 02:07.42 | sorphin | actually not using anything atm, haven't touched the tuxes in months |
| 02:08.00 | Morn | I actually use my tux as a phone every day |
| 02:08.10 | jacques | Morn: cool! |
| 02:08.21 | Morn | It's got an anchient version of the text only interface on it right now |
| 02:08.30 | jacques | what's pixil? |
| 02:08.36 | Morn | it's a gui |
| 02:08.59 | sorphin | jacques: they're obsessed w/ it ;) |
| 02:09.01 | Morn | I'm trying to think of the underlying system |
| 02:09.11 | Morn | It starts with a f |
| 02:10.09 | Morn | http://embedded.centrysoft.com |
| 02:10.20 | jacques | is pixil optimized for telecom ? |
| 02:10.22 | Morn | ooops |
| 02:10.24 | Morn | bad link |
| 02:10.38 | Morn | it was done for embedded systems |
| 02:10.45 | Morn | I used the ipaq version |
| 02:10.48 | Morn | it's slick |
| 02:11.03 | Morn | http://embedded.censoft.com |
| 02:11.17 | Morn | that works |
| 02:11.23 | Morn | and then use the pixil link |
| 02:11.47 | Morn | from the rumor they are going to open source pixil |
| 02:11.50 | jacques | very interesting |
| 02:11.57 | Morn | which will let CosmicP do a tux version |
| 02:13.42 | Morn | what is the toolkit |
| 02:13.47 | Morn | it's fltc? |
| 02:13.50 | Morn | something like that |
| 02:14.01 | Morn | same toolkit that is used for the POSE |
| 02:14.45 | Morn | I had a really weird idea in the car earlier |
| 02:14.50 | jacques | flwm ? |
| 02:15.00 | jacques | sorry fltk |
| 02:15.00 | Morn | I hate to admit it, but I use outlook for contact management |
| 02:15.19 | Morn | I was thinking about writing something to allow the tux to access my outlook contacts for dialing the phone |
| 02:15.22 | Morn | fltk yeah |
| 02:15.27 | Morn | I think thats it |
| 02:15.35 | jacques | yeah i like fltk |
| 02:15.41 | jacques | i use flwm |
| 02:15.55 | jacques | which is wm based on fltk |
| 02:17.30 | Morn | jacques: remember I'm pulling this info from quite some time ago when I messed with pixil |
| 02:17.55 | Morn | I sent so many emails to Centry Soft that I think they had my picture on the wall with a warning not to respond message |
| 02:18.15 | Morn | but Cosmic said they were listening to my intput |
| 02:18.27 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:18.40 | sorphin | julie on a "Wanted" poster (persay) |
| 02:18.55 | Morn | I liked the interface, I was just concerned at the 'lack' of applications |
| 02:19.06 | Morn | but if they opensource it then interest may pick up |
| 02:19.21 | Morn | Opie is worlds ahead on total number of usable apps |
| 02:19.31 | Morn | I have by the way gotten Opie to run on the tux |
| 02:19.33 | Morn | just not well |
| 02:19.51 | Morn | Opie would work better if I had full access to the 32Meg SODIMM |
| 02:20.09 | jacques | Morn: how much RAM can you access? |
| 02:20.10 | Morn | but with just 16Meg after the UI is loaded theres not room to run apps |
| 02:20.44 | Morn | jacques: the tux has 8Meg internal and can see 8Meg of the 32Meg SODIMM I have installed |
| 02:20.56 | Morn | someone was working on a patch for that but I never heard the results of that |
| 02:21.00 | jacques | Morn: that's no better than me! |
| 02:21.29 | jacques | 16MB is not enough esp with the stupid kernel reaping processes when it gets down to 4MB free |
| 02:22.03 | Morn | yeah |
| 02:22.10 | Morn | Opie doesn't like that |
| 02:22.44 | Morn | to run Opie I had to nfs mount a drive with everything other than a barebones boot and get networking up ramdisk |
| 02:28.10 | jacques | I was having problems with X - once server and wm were running, not much space was left for apps with the crazy reaper |
| 02:32.53 | Morn | the weird thing is that it didn't seem to account for cache space in ram |
| 02:34.38 | jacques | the reaper? |
| 02:42.46 | Morn | yeah |
| 02:43.01 | Morn | I would have large amounts of space being used as cache space |
| 02:43.11 | Morn | yet processes were getting killed |
| 02:45.02 | jacques | ah yeah I saw that too now that you mention it |
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| 03:04.54 | sorphin | it's kernel overcommit |
| 03:05.06 | sorphin | Morn: i had to toggle overcommit on |
| 03:05.14 | sorphin | to get the damn VM killer to piss off |
| 03:05.54 | jacques | yeah someone told me that and I havent had a chance to try it yet |
| 03:05.56 | Morn | sorphin: where is that? |
| 03:05.58 | jacques | good to know it works |
| 03:06.05 | jacques | somewher ein /proc I was told |
| 03:06.42 | sorphin | hold |
| 03:07.00 | sorphin | ./proc/sys/vm/overcommit_memory |
| 03:07.05 | sorphin | set that to 1 |
| 03:07.22 | sorphin | i have 1.5G of memory |
| 03:07.31 | sorphin | and it would start nuking crap |
| 03:07.32 | Morn | in a tux? |
| 03:07.36 | sorphin | no |
| 03:07.38 | sorphin | on igga |
| 03:07.39 | sorphin | giga |
| 03:07.40 | Morn | :-) |
| 03:07.43 | sorphin | yet |
| 03:07.48 | sorphin | the vm killer started killing shit |
| 03:07.55 | sorphin | with OUT pulling from it's "cache space" 1st |
| 03:07.59 | sorphin | which is a big nono |
| 03:08.10 | Morn | I should see if buildroot will work on a solaris box |
| 03:08.11 | sorphin | it should allocate from the cache 1st |
| 03:09.29 | Morn | is www.tuxscreen.org down? |
| 03:09.45 | file[bed] | probably |
| 03:09.51 | Morn | ugh |
| 03:09.53 | Morn | it's .net |
| 03:09.53 | sorphin | .org ? |
| 03:09.54 | file[bed] | Sourceforge has been... undergoing maintenance alot |
| 03:09.56 | Morn | I'm an idiot |
| 03:09.58 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:09.59 | sorphin | yup |
| 03:10.01 | file[bed] | k |
| 03:10.32 | Morn | for some reaso I always have to look up the cvs command to get build root |
| 03:10.39 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:10.42 | sorphin | cvs update :P |
| 03:11.01 | Morn | oh cool |
| 03:11.13 | Morn | I didn't know it would save the cvs options |
| 03:11.14 | sorphin | just get in the "main dir" |
| 03:11.24 | sorphin | as long as there's a dir w/ a CVS dir in it |
| 03:11.37 | sorphin | make that a CVS dir in your current dir |
| 03:11.38 | sorphin | it'll use it |
| 03:12.31 | Morn | one of these days I need to setup a cvs server |
| 03:13.26 | Morn | since tar on solaris isn't gnu tar |
| 03:13.45 | sorphin | or |
| 03:13.55 | sorphin | make gnu tar the 1st in the path :P |
| 03:13.57 | sorphin | or like me |
| 03:14.02 | sorphin | remove solaris tar all together ;) |
| 03:14.08 | Morn | actually I renamed gnu tar to gtar |
| 03:14.24 | Morn | because something else broke when I removed solaris tar |
| 03:33.50 | sorphin | never had that prob |
| 03:34.13 | sorphin | actually |
| 03:34.18 | sorphin | that's not where the shell starts |
| 03:34.20 | sorphin | grr |
| 03:34.22 | sorphin | ignore that |
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| 04:32.36 | Morn | anyone here? |
| 04:33.32 | sorphin | yes |
| 04:34.40 | Morn | have you tried buildroot recently? |
| 04:36.26 | sorphin | no |
| 04:36.35 | sorphin | why? |
| 04:36.58 | Morn | it's failing on the binutils |
| 04:37.14 | Morn | bash-2.05$ make |
| 04:37.14 | Morn | mkdir -p /export/home0/julie/buildroot-tux/build/binutils-build |
| 04:37.14 | Morn | (cd /export/home0/julie/buildroot-tux/build/binutils-build; CC=gcc /export/home0/julie/buildroot-tux/build/binutils-2.12.1/configure --disable-shared \ |
| 04:37.14 | Morn | --target=arm-linux --prefix=/export/home0/julie/buildroot-tux/build/stage \ |
| 04:37.14 | Morn | --enable-targets=arm-linux \ |
| 04:37.16 | Morn | --program-transform-name=s,^,arm-uclibc-,); |
| 04:37.17 | Morn | /bin/sh: ,arm-uclibc-,: not found |
| 04:37.57 | sorphin | id' say |
| 04:37.58 | sorphin | --program-transform-name=s,^,arm-uclibc-, |
| 04:38.03 | sorphin | is your problem ;) |
| 04:38.09 | Morn | no kidding |
| 04:38.14 | Morn | I just did that part by hand |
| 04:38.19 | Morn | and it seems to be configuring |
| 04:38.37 | sorphin | never seen it done like that before |
| 04:41.13 | Morn | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.16 | Morn | :-) |
| 04:45.39 | Morn | FYI |
| 04:45.46 | Morn | if you run the configure command by hand |
| 04:45.54 | Morn | touch the .configure in the build area |
| 04:46.01 | Morn | or the makefile tries to run the configure again |
| 04:48.58 | Morn | welp, I'm gonna crash |
| 04:49.00 | Morn | big weekend |
| 04:49.04 | sorphin | oh? |
| 04:49.22 | Morn | did I tell you we are remodelling the attic for my new room? |
| 04:49.28 | sorphin | nope |
| 04:49.30 | Morn | ah |
| 04:49.38 | Morn | yeah, and we're moving more stuff up for the work |
| 04:49.48 | sorphin | cool |
| 04:49.54 | Morn | that flooring is pretty heavy and akward to move up 3 stories |
| 04:50.00 | sorphin | hehe, yeah |
| 04:50.22 | Morn | and we need 15 sheets for the floor up there |
| 04:50.41 | sorphin | fun fun |
| 04:51.00 | Morn | this must be some strange new usage of the word fun I was not previously made aware of |
| 04:51.34 | sorphin | sarcasm |
| 04:51.55 | Morn | me? nah, never! |
| 04:52.04 | sorphin | i was being sarcastic :P |
| 04:52.16 | Morn | I was too |
| 04:52.40 | Morn | have you heard my answer for "What's up?" |
| 04:52.48 | sorphin | don't say the sky |
| 04:53.07 | Morn | a two letter word that generally indicates a direction opposite the pull of gravity |
| 04:53.18 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:53.51 | Morn | anyway |
| 04:53.55 | Morn | I need to crash |
| 04:53.57 | Morn | see ya later |
| 04:54.09 | sorphin | nini |
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| 08:54.57 | sorphin | oops :P |
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| 12:28.17 | fontenot | i dont think that overcommit thing is working for me |
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| 16:34.20 | souslik | Hi, anybody here? When is the IRC meeting planned for? |
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| 20:09.33 | file[livingroom] | hi LIM |
| 20:10.31 | LIM | woo file |
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| 21:27.09 | file[bed] | hi Morn |
| 21:27.21 | Morn | hey |
| 21:27.27 | Morn | something weird just happened |
| 21:27.40 | Morn | I was running build root (on solaris) and all my X windows closed |
| 21:43.38 | LIM | you ran out of ram... |
| 21:43.50 | LIM | thus the reaper came along. |
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| 21:47.47 | file[bed] | hi sjhill |
| 21:48.55 | sjhill | hi file |
| 21:50.21 | file[bed] | what's up? |
| 21:54.16 | MonMotha | I didn't think solaris had the OOM killer |
| 21:56.19 | LIM | perhaps it couldn't help it...as in, it couldn't swap stuff in... |
| 22:00.28 | sjhill | file[bed]: i got laid off, didn't you hear? |
| 22:01.06 | file[bed] | sjhill: yes, but I meant have you got any places lined up yet? |
| 22:15.34 | sjhill | file[bed]: nope...it will take some time |
| 22:21.07 | file | k |
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