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| 00:20.01 | russ_ | so who had the master script-fu? |
| 00:22.07 | russ_ | I need to take a device number in decimal, and pass it to mknod |
| 00:22.24 | russ_ | so, like, input is 769, output is mknod /dev/root b 3 1 |
| 00:22.44 | russ_ | ready .... |
| 00:22.46 | russ_ | go! |
| 00:38.35 | russ_ | hmmm |
| 00:38.39 | russ_ | your script |
| 00:38.41 | russ_ | er |
| 00:38.47 | russ_ | your script-fu is weak... |
| 01:02.22 | jacques | my mind is occupied with makefiles right now |
| 01:02.53 | jacques | heading home to see if my latest hacking worked |
| 01:20.05 | BZFlag | mknod /dev/root b `expr 769 / 256` `expr 769 % 256` |
| 01:34.07 | fontenot | why does zmodem backtrack so much? |
| 01:34.12 | fontenot | is it getting that many errors? |
| 01:38.10 | fontenot | arg now the xfer is hung |
| 01:44.49 | fontenot | aborted xfer, tux went nuts, had to reset |
| 01:46.22 | fontenot | is a file compressed as it's written? or do I need to have enough space to hold the whole file uncompressed? |
| 01:48.38 | fontenot | sigh it's hanging in the same place in the xfer again |
| 01:49.10 | fontenot | hmm got a bit farther |
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| 02:17.01 | TomW | fontenot: you around? |
| 02:45.52 | fontenot | TomW: hi! |
| 02:45.58 | fontenot | what a coincidence |
| 02:46.13 | fontenot | I happen to be working on tslib ts driver in latest xfree cvs |
| 02:46.14 | TomW | ... just doing some repair to some PHP code. |
| 02:46.30 | TomW | Good boy! |
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| 02:46.38 | fontenot | tslib has calibration now! |
| 02:46.48 | fontenot | and last night I actually got it to work on the tuxscreen |
| 02:46.50 | TomW | Ah |
| 02:47.04 | TomW | that's the best part, it works! |
| 02:47.05 | TomW | lol |
| 02:47.18 | fontenot | the latest cvs xfree includes a tslib driver, but it's not working yet - no movement at all |
| 02:47.24 | TomW | Isn't X fun to work on? |
| 02:47.26 | TomW | :-/ |
| 02:47.27 | fontenot | might be something simple |
| 02:47.52 | fontenot | well X is not too much fun because every time I want to try a new X server I have to send 700kB+ to the tuxscreen |
| 02:48.04 | fontenot | and it takes a long time what with the flash erasing and compressing |
| 02:48.29 | fontenot | better than flashing a whole new ramdisk I guess |
| 02:48.58 | fontenot | I hope the xfree tslib problem is the same thing that was making the ts_calibrate not work last night - simple fix |
| 02:49.33 | TomW | fontenot: yeah, I had to delete files, then copy them over via ftp, it still took a while for them to write into jffs, but it was faster. |
| 02:49.55 | fontenot | yeah I need to get this particular tux back on the network |
| 02:50.21 | TomW | I have a tux setup behind me, it made it out of the box I had it in, but ... |
| 02:50.49 | fontenot | heh |
| 02:51.01 | TomW | Too much else happening right now, a customer with his ass in the sling and it was my code that needed a massive rewrite. :-( |
| 02:51.17 | fontenot | :-( |
| 02:51.40 | TomW | all he needed was "a simple little addition".... |
| 02:51.58 | TomW | ... that impacted the program enormously! |
| 02:52.21 | fontenot | i hate those |
| 02:52.29 | fontenot | arg! |
| 02:52.31 | TomW | anyway. I do want to get back to playing with the tux, but making money comes before playtime. |
| 02:52.52 | fontenot | looks like the xfree tslib driver needs a lesson in device names |
| 02:52.52 | TomW | my php code failed to mail a file back to me. |
| 02:52.56 | TomW | ... |
| 02:53.49 | fontenot | latest tslib is nice in that it's very configurable with env vars, but the xfree tslib driver (tslib.c) does not appear to use that functionality :-\ |
| 03:01.01 | TomW | ok, I see the problem. I split the single server I had into four seperate machines. Each firewalled from the other to increase security here. The upshot is that there is no "sendmail" to have the apache PHP code to use to mail files to people. |
| 03:01.18 | TomW | sux |
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| 03:01.38 | fontenot | ah |
| 03:02.35 | TomW | this could get interesting, routing the sendmail stuff through the firewall between two machines on the internal network... |
| 03:04.07 | TomW | I got to get another box running on the other static IP I got over at the ISP. I keep his stuff running and in return, I get to stick a machine over there on a static IP and use his 500K T1 connection. |
| 03:04.37 | TomW | ... my own little tcp "kingdom" is growning. |
| 03:04.39 | fontenot | cool |
| 03:05.02 | fontenot | hmm, getting a bit closer now - first touch moves the cursor to the right place, after that, nothing |
| 03:05.17 | TomW | :-) |
| 03:05.51 | TomW | fontenot: time for gdb? |
| 03:06.43 | fontenot | I'm going to look at the tslib.c more first. maybe I'll get lucky |
| 03:07.14 | TomW | I love gdb! The code I was working on for the past two weeks (of hell), was mostly C code that ran on an 8051 derivative. Since it was C, I compiled it under the gcc compiler, then ran it under linux and brought gdb into play to swat the really nasty bugs. |
| 03:07.45 | fontenot | nice |
| 03:08.04 | TomW | I build a virtual environment for the "8051" to run in so it had "access to hardware". |
| 03:08.28 | TomW | s/8051/8051 C code/ |
| 03:09.14 | fontenot | get this - the latest xfree cvs builds against uclibc with *no patches* |
| 03:14.29 | TomW | BZFlag: still awake |
| 03:14.29 | TomW | BZFlag: ? |
| 03:14.29 | TomW | fontenot: lots of people logged in tonite. |
| 03:14.47 | TomW | cool! Eric has been busy, eh? |
| 03:14.51 | TomW | or, have you been into the cvs? |
| 03:16.32 | fontenot | TomW: I don't know how that happened |
| 03:17.28 | fontenot | maybe some other ppl using uclibc - lots of ppl are now |
| 03:17.55 | fontenot | i was meaning to ask andersee if he had anything to do with that |
| 03:19.23 | TomW | I think that the license for the uClibc makes a lot more sense. I'm for open sourcing code, but sometimes it is in your best interest (a customer) that some stuff be kept closed. |
| 03:20.16 | fontenot | i wasnt even aware the license was not lgpl |
| 03:20.25 | TomW | ... besides, it gives andersee something to do with his free time!? <heh> |
| 03:20.51 | fontenot | hoh |
| 03:20.53 | fontenot | heh |
| 03:21.02 | andersee | fontenot: eh? |
| 03:21.35 | fontenot | andersee: did you know xfree cvs builds against uclibc now with no patches at all? |
| 03:21.41 | andersee | :-) |
| 03:21.44 | TomW | IIRC, I spoke with andersee about that and that was the reason for the uClibc, that you could build distributable stuff outside of the GPL using his uClibc. |
| 03:21.53 | andersee | nope, I didn't know. |
| 03:22.07 | fontenot | I'm back to working on the tslib driver |
| 03:22.12 | TomW | andersee: your uClibc, is that lgpl or what? |
| 03:22.17 | fontenot | tslib has calibration now |
| 03:22.23 | andersee | TomW: yup, LGPL |
| 03:22.33 | TomW | okay, lesser GPL. |
| 03:23.44 | TomW | brb, I got to try throwing a copy of sendmail onto the apache server and see if that fixes the email thing easily. |
| 03:23.54 | andersee | I'm not too surprised though. I've been working hard at improving it... I've been building a little standalone uClibc devel system recently... With gcc, g++, bash, coreutils, make, gdb, strace, valgrind, etc. |
| 03:24.31 | andersee | So its coming along pretty nicely. At the current rate, I hope to get uClibc 1.0 out before the end of the year... |
| 03:24.49 | fontenot | andersee: that's great! |
| 03:25.09 | fontenot | andersee: is the standalone system build automated? |
| 03:26.33 | andersee | fontenot: Yup. just grab buildroot from cvs on uclibc.org. Enable the devel targets and run 'make' |
| 03:26.59 | andersee | fontenot: Same build system as the tuxscreen... |
| 03:27.34 | fontenot | cool I'm definitely going to play with that |
| 03:27.54 | fontenot | after I get tslib xfree working |
| 03:28.11 | andersee | fontenot: BTW, I even have a binary release of it. Though I need to update it since that version has g++ broken. Its fixed now... |
| 03:29.06 | andersee | fontenot: I'll probably update that later today |
| 03:29.11 | fontenot | i think I saw gcc 3.2.1 announcement go by on freshmeat last night |
| 03:30.39 | andersee | fontenot: :-) I've already updated to it locally and got a gcc-3.2.1/uClibc ready to release |
| 03:30.57 | fontenot | :-D |
| 03:32.40 | TomW | anyone know what an "PSH" packet is for tcp? |
| 03:32.55 | TomW | PSH flag set anyway... |
| 03:33.46 | fontenot | not I |
| 03:33.57 | TomW | mmmm |
| 03:35.01 | TomW | Firewall is stopping someone trying to connect via TCP to my dns server with "ACK PSH FIN" flags set. Haven't seen / noticed the PSH flag before, didn't know that there was one. |
| 03:35.20 | fontenot | ">Is the PSH tcp flag "dangerous"? |
| 03:35.20 | fontenot | PSH simply means flush queued data from the buffers. I can't imagine |
| 03:35.20 | fontenot | how it would be dangerous. Am I missing something?" |
| 03:35.30 | fontenot | from google |
| 03:35.35 | TomW | ok, tnx |
| 03:36.33 | fontenot | PSH (Push Flag) An upper level protocol requires immediate data delivery |
| 03:36.33 | fontenot | and would use the Push (PSH) flag to immediately forward all of the queued |
| 03:36.33 | fontenot | data to the destination. |
| 03:44.01 | TomW | I hate that! I got 6 desktops with a whole lot of stuff running in them, something beeped the console and I cannot figure out what it was. <heh> |
| 03:44.29 | TomW | maybe I should close some stuff? |
| 03:45.09 | fontenot | nah |
| 03:45.14 | fontenot | i run 12 desktops |
| 03:45.32 | fontenot | use function keys to switch between them |
| 03:46.21 | fontenot | making a bit of progress on the tslib thing. gotta eat tho |
| 03:46.39 | TomW | you are getting sleepy, ... very sleepy ... your eyes are beginning to close ... you are getting sleepy........ zzzzzzzzz |
| 03:46.54 | fontenot | yeah I am getting sleepy |
| 03:46.56 | TomW | heh |
| 03:46.57 | fontenot | :-\ |
| 03:47.06 | TomW | I got to get some ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's |
| 03:47.23 | TomW | I get back here more often, promise. |
| 03:47.28 | fontenot | i should too but i want to get this working |
| 03:47.35 | andersee | later |
| 03:47.36 | TomW | BTDT |
| 03:47.38 | TomW | later |
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| 03:47.45 | fontenot | yeah you should get here more |
| 03:47.56 | fontenot | heh |
| 03:50.24 | fontenot | hmm weird |
| 03:50.33 | fontenot | x server is getting same coords over and over |
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| 08:24.09 | CosmicPenguin | morning folks |
| 08:24.41 | sorphin | lo cp |
| 08:25.31 | CosmicPenguin | I just saw a message on my linux users group mailing list that a guy wanted a linux consultant for some work |
| 08:25.48 | sorphin | cool |
| 08:25.50 | CosmicPenguin | but the company makes web filters - not many geeks I know would be willing to help a company like that |
| 08:26.48 | sorphin | seriously? |
| 08:26.51 | sjhill | ummm....i need a job :) |
| 08:26.54 | sjhill | sorphin: yes |
| 08:26.57 | sorphin | ouch |
| 08:27.06 | sorphin | that why you didn't email me? :P |
| 08:27.17 | sjhill | yeah |
| 08:28.04 | CosmicPenguin | wow - sorry man |
| 08:28.13 | sorphin | sorry to hear |
| 08:28.24 | sorphin | as bad as this sound, istill wish wcom would lay me off :P |
| 08:28.27 | sorphin | +s |
| 08:28.44 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: shareholders...it's all that matters |
| 08:28.50 | sorphin | yup |
| 08:29.04 | sorphin | wcom's HQ is gonna move to ashburn most likely |
| 08:29.12 | CosmicPenguin | ashburn? |
| 08:29.19 | sorphin | expected layoffs in DC and colorado springs |
| 08:29.24 | sorphin | ashburn ,va |
| 08:29.26 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh |
| 08:29.31 | CosmicPenguin | from DC, right? |
| 08:29.36 | sorphin | and closing the clinton, MS headquarters |
| 08:29.39 | CosmicPenguin | Oh |
| 08:29.51 | CosmicPenguin | and in Texas |
| 08:30.05 | sorphin | that's where the lab is |
| 08:30.15 | CosmicPenguin | Luckly, he got canned with severance before the crash |
| 08:30.33 | sorphin | well, they're still giving severance now, so... |
| 08:30.52 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: anything i can do to help you get fired then? :) |
| 08:31.08 | sorphin | the only thing that happened w/ severance, was that before the judgement, the 2nd 1/2 of hte severance was put on hold till the judge approved it |
| 08:31.19 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: fired, no, laid off, i wish :P |
| 08:31.26 | CosmicPenguin | ahh.... |
| 08:31.38 | sorphin | sjhill: :) |
| 08:34.05 | CosmicPenguin | broadcom, up a buck |
| 08:34.12 | sjhill | figures :) |
| 08:34.34 | sjhill | i still have a lot of options that i get to exercise yet, so i'll still make some money |
| 08:34.43 | CosmicPenguin | company cures cancer, saves kittens, promotes world peace - down 25% |
| 08:34.51 | sjhill | lol |
| 08:35.23 | CosmicPenguin | Company destroys ozone layer, and kills off an entire species - up 30% |
| 08:49.24 | sorphin | sounds about right |
| 08:55.16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: stock goes up relative to the # of cattle mutilations |
| 09:08.41 | CosmicPenguin | especially for the company that faked the moon landing |
| 09:09.08 | sorphin | yup |
| 09:10.01 | sorphin | didn't you know all these picstures of other plants are just photoshop images? |
| 09:10.17 | sorphin | pictures even |
| 09:10.19 | sorphin | fwho |
| 09:10.22 | sorphin | grr |
| 09:11.44 | *** part/#tuxscreen sjhill (~NOYB@207-191-210-241.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net) |
| 09:11.46 | CosmicPenguin | what CPU is in the TIvo series 2? |
| 09:12.12 | sorphin | cpu model : R5432 V3.0 |
| 09:12.26 | CosmicPenguin | And a Broadcom encoder, right? |
| 09:12.42 | sorphin | yup.. KFir2 |
| 09:12.48 | sorphin | and a broadcom 7030 decoder |
| 09:12.49 | CosmicPenguin | thaks |
| 09:13.08 | CosmicPenguin | any idea what the BOM price is on a Tivo? |
| 09:13.23 | sorphin | nope |
| 09:14.34 | CosmicPenguin | everybody loves MIPS |
| 09:14.52 | sorphin | of course |
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| 09:52.30 | sorphin | prpplague: mornin |
| 09:52.47 | prpplague | sorphin: morning |
| 09:52.55 | sorphin | prpplague: steve got axed |
| 09:53.07 | sorphin | (sjhill) |
| 09:53.22 | prpplague | what??????????? |
| 09:53.26 | sorphin | yup |
| 09:53.32 | prpplague | fired? |
| 09:53.34 | sorphin | layed off |
| 09:53.39 | sorphin | laid |
| 09:53.40 | sorphin | whatever |
| 09:53.42 | prpplague | bummer |
| 09:53.47 | sorphin | yeah |
| 09:53.55 | sorphin | so he was doing a big ftp earlier over ssh ;) |
| 09:53.57 | prpplague | i would not have suspected sjhill to have gotten laid off |
| 09:54.10 | sorphin | prpplague: you don't understand how these things work then |
| 09:54.28 | sorphin | that's all the do |
| 09:54.29 | prpplague | sorphin: ohh |
| 09:54.49 | CosmicPenguin | hehe - officemax is going to have a DVD R/W for $170 on next Firday |
| 09:54.55 | CosmicPenguin | sign me up! |
| 09:55.02 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: + or - ? |
| 09:55.32 | CosmicPenguin | lemme check |
| 09:55.58 | CosmicPenguin | 2014-6496 dvd-r/rw $170, 50 |
| 09:56.08 | CosmicPenguin | SO that might be $220 is a $50 dollar rebate |
| 09:56.31 | CosmicPenguin | This is a leaked list of prices, so its not very descriptive, you know what I mean? |
| 09:56.59 | sorphin | nod |
| 09:57.12 | CosmicPenguin | Apex DVD player 48.76 |
| 09:57.16 | sorphin | hope it's the pioneer :P |
| 09:57.18 | sorphin | yup |
| 09:57.19 | sorphin | saw that |
| 09:57.24 | sorphin | and a 99$ apex tv |
| 09:57.28 | CosmicPenguin | At wallmart - those are the ones that can be hacked to be multi region |
| 09:57.44 | sorphin | i know |
| 09:58.00 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 09:58.58 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hmm |
| 09:59.14 | sorphin | i can't fin that sku |
| 10:00.03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: all I know is whats on the list |
| 10:00.05 | CosmicPenguin | wanna copy? |
| 10:00.19 | sorphin | i got the list |
| 10:00.23 | CosmicPenguin | kewl |
| 10:00.34 | sorphin | just trying to find the drive on office max's site |
| 10:00.37 | sorphin | so i can see what drive |
| 10:02.48 | CosmicPenguin | ahhh... maybe not in stores yet? :P |
| 10:03.55 | sorphin | should still be on the website :P |
| 10:04.04 | sorphin | there's that sku w/ a 5 instead of 6 on the end :P |
| 10:08.44 | CosmicPenguin | url? |
| 10:20.05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: found it ala google |
| 10:20.29 | sorphin | OfficeMax.com - Cendyne DVD-R drive $150 after rebate |
| 10:20.45 | sorphin | that's what it's been every time |
| 10:20.56 | sorphin | prolly this time too |
| 10:21.37 | CosmicPenguin | Not a RW? |
| 10:24.45 | sorphin | not sure.. there's a -R and a -R/-RW |
| 10:26.50 | prpplague | anyone programmed usb-hid devices? |
| 10:27.14 | Russ|werk | BZFlag: nice script-fu |
| 10:27.17 | Russ|werk | thanks |
| 10:27.35 | Russ|werk | morning |
| 10:28.40 | prpplague | Russ|werk: those parts are on the shipping dock and should go out today |
| 10:28.47 | Russ|werk | thanks |
| 10:29.03 | Russ|werk | I found a 10/100 pc-card on ebay earlier this week |
| 10:29.04 | prpplague | np |
| 10:29.23 | Russ|werk | do you have a shipping number? |
| 10:31.08 | prpplague | not till around 4pm cst |
| 10:31.16 | Russ|werk | k |
| 10:31.42 | Russ|werk | I'm currently working on patches to the initrd-tools deb so that it works with the new initrd system (pivot_root) |
| 10:31.58 | Russ|werk | and can therefore actually mount an nfs root |
| 10:34.08 | BZFlag | Russ|werk: you got my expr stuff then? ;-) |
| 10:34.15 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 10:34.57 | Russ|werk | that should allow me to easily transition the debian stuff to use pivot_root |
| 10:36.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I've played with some USB devices before |
| 10:36.15 | Russ|werk | for 99% of setups, it'll just be an mknod, mount /dev/root, pivot_root |
| 10:36.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ah ha |
| 10:36.33 | sorphin | Cendyne DVD-R/RW CD-R/RW |
| 10:36.39 | CosmicPenguin | url? |
| 10:36.43 | Russ|werk | for nfs, it'll be udhcpc->mount->etc |
| 10:36.45 | sorphin | same sku |
| 10:36.54 | sorphin | http://www.hotdealsclub.com/co/148/ |
| 10:36.59 | sorphin | its from august |
| 10:37.05 | sorphin | but it's the same sku, so... |
| 10:37.13 | sorphin | scroll down mid page |
| 10:37.49 | CosmicPenguin | august 26 entry? |
| 10:38.23 | sorphin | yup |
| 10:38.28 | sorphin | it's gonna be that driv eagain |
| 10:38.32 | Russ|werk | I like the breakdown where it gets to $81+$71 of rebates |
| 10:40.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you know about this stuff - good deal or POS? |
| 10:40.36 | sorphin | damn.. can't find the url i had for the full list.. i pasted it here yesterday.. |
| 10:40.46 | sorphin | as for the drive, i dunno.. lemme research it |
| 10:40.50 | CosmicPenguin | prolly got shut down |
| 10:40.56 | sorphin | no |
| 10:41.02 | sorphin | i mean i can't find what the url IS |
| 10:41.11 | CosmicPenguin | This is what I have: http://www.columbia.edu/~sp2015/blackfriday.txt |
| 10:41.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: anyone know the major/minod number for hiddev0 ? |
| 10:42.12 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ya know |
| 10:42.20 | sorphin | it looks like the pioneer drive, rebranded |
| 10:42.23 | sorphin | if it is |
| 10:42.25 | sorphin | it's a good drive |
| 10:43.08 | sorphin | yup |
| 10:43.10 | sorphin | CenDyne's DVR-104 DVD-RW drive is the latest version of the DVR-103, the Pioneer drive that started the home-movie-burning revolution. |
| 10:43.19 | sorphin | it's a rebrand is all |
| 10:43.26 | sorphin | so that's cheep for the drive |
| 10:44.51 | Russ|werk | crap |
| 10:44.57 | Russ|werk | I'm getting bug response spam |
| 10:45.05 | Russ|werk | bug#1281: cheap smokes |
| 10:48.56 | prpplague | crap, that sucks |
| 10:49.23 | sorphin | i get atleast 50+ a day on each email account in my caughtspam folder |
| 10:49.36 | prpplague | anyone know where i can get a fairly simple example of a end user hid application? |
| 10:49.44 | sorphin | nope |
| 10:49.48 | sorphin | never even used usb hid |
| 10:50.04 | sorphin | what's this one? |
| 10:50.08 | sorphin | device |
| 10:50.26 | prpplague | another sig capture device |
| 10:50.53 | sorphin | ahh |
| 10:51.20 | sorphin | saw one of those wesley-allen or whatever ones on ebay not long ago |
| 10:51.35 | prpplague | sorphin: ya they aren't too unix friendly |
| 10:51.46 | sorphin | was funny |
| 10:51.53 | sorphin | ran into one of the ones at worstbuy |
| 10:51.57 | sorphin | you couldn't even sign your name |
| 10:52.03 | sorphin | the pen went everywhere on the screen |
| 10:52.16 | prpplague | sorphin: this company called "topaz" is pretty open on their specs and support |
| 10:52.28 | sorphin | cool |
| 10:52.50 | sorphin | i've never been able to get a good signature on one of those devices |
| 10:53.01 | sorphin | cept the receipt signing ones |
| 10:53.24 | sorphin | cuz i'm signing the receipt and it just catches it under the recepit |
| 10:53.30 | sorphin | the screen ones don't pick up right |
| 10:56.15 | prpplague | sorphin: this one seems to be pretty clear |
| 10:58.40 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: wrock on! |
| 10:58.51 | CosmicPenguin | s/w// |
| 10:59.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 10:59.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the skeleton file in the usb directory is the best example for USB |
| 11:03.31 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: the 104 only does 2.4x, not 4x, but since 4x media isn't exactly cheap nor easily acquirable.. |
| 11:03.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which skeleton file? |
| 11:22.49 | Russ|werk | hey BZFlag, with udhcp running an nfs root, what do you suppose would happen if the DHCP server had some downtime, and udhcp lost its lease (ifconfig eth0 0.0.0.0)? |
| 11:23.30 | Russ|werk | or, the server sent it a DHCP NAK |
| 11:42.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ummm..... |
| 11:43.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: drivers/usb/usb-skeleton.c in 2.4 |
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| 12:25.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ohh, i'm look for end user apps example |
| 12:30.53 | CosmicPenguin | you mean on the other side of /dev/input/* ? |
| 12:39.30 | sorphin | ok, my brain isn't on today.. |
| 12:39.48 | sorphin | what's the easiest way to dump a module's symbols? (that isn't stripped) |
| 12:41.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was to read in from /dev/usb/hiddev0 |
| 12:41.31 | prpplague | s/was/want |
| 12:43.31 | CosmicPenguin | ahh |
| 12:43.51 | CosmicPenguin | I thought you needed a driver |
| 12:44.05 | CosmicPenguin | so no, I don |
| 12:44.09 | CosmicPenguin | 't know what to do there |
| 12:44.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 12:50.01 | Russ|werk | I have a simple app that just reads input events |
| 12:50.18 | Russ|werk | prpplague: don't you want /dev/input/mice anyway? |
| 12:50.50 | Russ|werk | probably something with objdump |
| 12:51.46 | Russ|werk | objdump -t module.o might be what you want |
| 12:52.10 | sorphin | Russ|werk: that'll work |
| 12:52.54 | AlHaz | How much need is there for jtag hardware? I have the wherewithall (and copious time on my hands) to work up instructions for a DIY jtag dongle that should cost about $5 and an hour to make |
| 12:53.50 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: or nm |
| 12:54.50 | sorphin | AlHaz: if you have a 3.3v parallel port, there's nothing but a cable required ;) |
| 12:54.51 | AlHaz | But, you know, if nobody gives a darn . . |
| 12:54.55 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: I don't think that anyone would begrudge instructions for a JTAG dongle |
| 12:54.59 | AlHaz | sorphin: heh |
| 12:55.07 | AlHaz | sorphin: not if you value your hardware |
| 12:55.19 | sorphin | AlHaz: hey, it worked fine for me :P |
| 12:55.21 | AlHaz | ayway |
| 12:55.22 | sorphin | AlHaz: however |
| 12:55.23 | CosmicPenguin | I would think that we should see more devices soon with JTAG (right prpplague?) |
| 12:55.23 | AlHaz | *anyway |
| 12:55.24 | AlHaz | rather |
| 12:55.32 | AlHaz | Well |
| 12:55.32 | sorphin | the normal way |
| 12:55.36 | sorphin | is just a buffer |
| 12:55.45 | AlHaz | I came across instructions for a jtag dongle for some *ahem stmicro devices |
| 12:55.46 | sorphin | and correct mapping |
| 12:55.55 | AlHaz | just a 74hc244 and a few resistor networks |
| 12:56.03 | sorphin | right |
| 12:56.04 | AlHaz | I built one in about 45 minutes |
| 12:56.15 | AlHaz | fits inside a db25 hood |
| 12:56.20 | AlHaz | no board |
| 12:56.24 | AlHaz | anyway |
| 12:56.39 | AlHaz | I could adapt the instructions to work w/ the tux |
| 12:56.55 | AlHaz | I just haven't bothered yet |
| 12:57.00 | AlHaz | I even have parts layin around |
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| 12:57.23 | sorphin | you're more than welcome to toss it up on the wiki or such |
| 12:57.33 | AlHaz | Yeah, I figured |
| 12:57.43 | AlHaz | I wonder if i can remember my sourceforge login |
| 12:57.45 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: heck, I would like instructions - it would keep me from bothering andersee every time I want to flash something |
| 12:58.03 | AlHaz | CosmicPenguin: Yeah, and you can get all the parts at local electronics stores, more or less |
| 12:58.11 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: but i thought you liked bugging andersee? |
| 12:58.19 | file | I need to clean up my workstation's monitor... brb |
| 12:58.29 | sorphin | file: we don't wanna know, file |
| 12:58.47 | AlHaz | anybody know anyone hiring testers, btw? |
| 12:58.58 | AlHaz | I'm about 6 weeks from my parents basement at this point |
| 12:58.58 | file | dust you dimbo |
| 12:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: nah - he has more important things to do. I still want the ISOS for his uclibc based distro |
| 12:59.14 | CosmicPenguin | AlHaz: sorry man - its bad around these here parts |
| 12:59.32 | CosmicPenguin | Worse than normal, I suppose... |
| 12:59.43 | AlHaz | Yup |
| 13:00.44 | sorphin | AlHaz: i'm already in the basement :P |
| 13:01.51 | AlHaz | I've probably hung onto my rental too long. |
| 13:03.57 | AlHaz | OK, I guess i'll work it out |
| 13:04.04 | AlHaz | shouldn't be too hard |
| 13:04.15 | AlHaz | very nearly tab a into slot b anyhow |
| 13:04.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i hope |
| 13:04.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the two prototypes are being picked up today |
| 13:08.20 | file | prpplague: oh did oyu get those things yet? |
| 13:17.06 | prpplague | file: which things are you refering to? |
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| 14:16.54 | file | hi mallum |
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| 14:36.25 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 14:36.30 | sorphin | lo |
| 14:41.56 | andersee | evening |
| 14:44.57 | sorphin | lo erik |
| 14:49.00 | andersee | howdy sorphin |
| 14:49.14 | andersee | Anything interesting happening? |
| 14:50.43 | sorphin | sjhill got laid off |
| 14:51.21 | file | WHAT?!?!?!?!? |
| 14:51.48 | file | sorphin: like when don't you |
| 14:52.02 | sorphin | normally, till you say something that annoys me |
| 14:54.10 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:54.16 | sorphin | ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! annoys me |
| 14:54.46 | MonMotha | how can ?!?!?!? possibly annoy you!?!?!?!?!?!? |
| 14:54.51 | MonMotha | :) |
| 14:54.59 | file | MonMotha: he's strange sometimes |
| 14:55.05 | MonMotha | file: I've noticed :) |
| 14:55.15 | sorphin | MonMotha: because it's pointless |
| 14:55.29 | file | if it was pointless - why would it be on the keyboard? |
| 14:55.30 | MonMotha | sorphin: no, that's WHY it annoys you, not how :) |
| 14:55.39 | sorphin | it's as pointless to me as people j0 sp33k l1k3 th35 |
| 14:55.44 | sorphin | th15 even |
| 14:55.52 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:55.53 | sorphin | file |
| 14:55.54 | file | you just annoyed yourself |
| 14:56.02 | sorphin | ? |
| 14:56.05 | sorphin | is on the keyboard |
| 14:56.09 | sorphin | ! is on the keyboard |
| 14:56.16 | sorphin | !? 50 times, is not |
| 14:56.43 | file | why?!?!?!?!? |
| 14:57.24 | file | ever wonder what would happen if there's bugs in the debugger? |
| 14:58.24 | MonMotha | file: I guess you'd have to debug the debugger |
| 14:58.32 | file | uh huh |
| 15:08.49 | andersee | sorphin: were you serious re sjhill? |
| 15:10.40 | sorphin | yes |
| 15:10.48 | sorphin | he told us this morning |
| 15:11.12 | file | ibot: seen sjhill |
| 15:11.13 | | sjhill <~NOYB@207-191-210-241.cpe.ats.mcleodusa.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #tuxscreen, 6h 36m 22s ago, saying: 'lol'. |
| 15:22.36 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: I confirm |
| 15:36.38 | prpplague | ya thats bad news about sjhill |
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| 15:37.39 | file | hi ade |
| 15:38.06 | ade | hi |
| 15:41.08 | andersee | bummer |
| 15:44.27 | jacques | arg why cant tslib stuff ever work right |
| 15:46.16 | prpplague | jacques: fun isn't it |
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| 15:46.27 | file | heat is good |
| 15:46.27 | file | bbl |
| 15:46.57 | jacques | prpplague: sometimes it's fun, sometimes it's very frustrating |
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| 16:53.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:53.33 | sorphin | just opened my postal mailbox |
| 16:53.48 | sorphin | and found "RealView ARM Developer Suite 1.2" :) |
| 17:42.23 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: you around? |
| 17:42.51 | Russ|werk | holy crap |
| 17:42.56 | Russ|werk | have you seen lasagne? |
| 17:45.27 | andersee | Russ|werk: ??? |
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| 17:45.45 | Russ|werk | some guy just droped a link to his project on geda-dev |
| 17:45.49 | Russ|werk | http://lasagne.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:46.04 | Russ|werk | http://lasagne.sourceforge.net/screenshots/1.jpg |
| 17:46.05 | sorphin | wtf is geda ? |
| 17:46.13 | Russ|werk | http://lasagne.sourceforge.net/screenshots/4.jpg |
| 17:46.22 | Russ|werk | http://lasagne.sourceforge.net/screenshots/5.jpg |
| 17:48.24 | andersee | Russ|werk: What is it? |
| 17:48.51 | andersee | Russ|werk: Some sortof multilayer pcb? |
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| 17:49.30 | andersee | Ahh. PCB layout! |
| 17:49.35 | Russ|werk | he reached the limits of PCB, so designed his own pcb software based on gtk+gtkglarea |
| 17:49.43 | Russ|werk | even does neato stuff like blind vias |
| 17:50.04 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:50.39 | andersee | We need to get the shanip modeled up and get a pack of them built. |
| 17:54.10 | jacques | yeah I would like some |
| 17:54.42 | Russ|werk | I'll take two |
| 17:55.07 | sorphin | but which one? |
| 17:57.43 | file | Russ|werk: home is good |
| 17:57.57 | jacques | I'll take 4 |
| 17:58.14 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:59.14 | jacques | I'm not familiar with the variations |
| 17:59.54 | jacques | I mainly want sound out, but I guess line in would be nice, and an additional serial port could be useful |
| 18:05.13 | jacques | i guess sound out and line in would be enough for me |
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| 18:06.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:06.05 | Cuda | Anyone know where i can get a jtag dongle? |
| 18:06.09 | jacques | oooh, and how about a builtin lirc transciever |
| 18:06.39 | file | Cuda: heaven |
| 18:07.18 | Cuda | but seriously... |
| 18:07.32 | sorphin | Cuda: no |
| 18:07.56 | sorphin | jacques: better design your own then ;p |
| 18:08.18 | jacques | i dont have those skills |
| 18:08.30 | file | develop them |
| 18:56.53 | MonMotha | jacques: the second serial port is surprisingly simple to add |
| 18:57.13 | MonMotha | basically all you need is to cut a line to ground, solder on a couple wires, and run them through an RS-232 line driver |
| 19:01.46 | jacques | then add a couple of parts to that and you have a lirc transceiver |
| 19:01.59 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 19:02.20 | MonMotha | question is...what would be required to mod the built in IR (for keyboard) to be send/receive? |
| 19:02.26 | MonMotha | I haven't even looked into that |
| 19:03.51 | jacques | i thought it was irda based but not irda compliant |
| 19:04.02 | jacques | but not CIR |
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| 19:05.25 | jacques | i bet the wiki has some info |
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| 19:44.49 | cpenguin_home | evening good people, and sorphin |
| 19:53.07 | jacques | heh |
| 19:54.17 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: whatever jordan |
| 20:13.28 | cpenguin_home | andersee: you around? |
| 20:14.28 | MonMotha | jacques: as I recall, the wiki says that the IR is CIR receive only |
| 20:20.54 | sorphin | who here is a usb ethernet/pegasus expert? |
| 20:24.18 | jacques | MonMotha: ah hmmm |
| 20:25.35 | cpenguin_home | ibot: pegasus? |
| 20:25.36 | | cpenguin_home: bugger all, i dunno |
| 20:25.54 | cpenguin_home | Damn - I was hoping that somebody would have already taught ibot about mythology |
| 20:26.13 | cpenguin_home | ibot: zeus? |
| 20:26.14 | | cpenguin_home: i don't know |
| 20:26.20 | cpenguin_home | ibot: venus? |
| 20:26.20 | | cpenguin_home: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 20:27.25 | sorphin | umm |
| 20:27.30 | sorphin | wrong pegasus dork |
| 20:29.50 | cpenguin_home | I know.... I just thought ibot would be funny about it |
| 20:29.52 | cpenguin_home | Seesh |
| 20:31.17 | andersee | cpenguin_home: yup |
| 20:31.29 | andersee | cpenguin_home: Was putting my son in bed |
| 20:31.31 | sorphin | esp when i keep having to contend w/ |
| 20:31.48 | sorphin | Nov 22 02:18:41 TiVoS2 kernel: pegasus.c: eth0: TX status -145 |
| 20:31.53 | sorphin | Nov 22 02:18:41 TiVoS2 kernel: hub.c: already running port 1 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling... |
| 20:31.54 | sorphin | Nov 22 02:18:41 TiVoS2 kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 3 |
| 20:31.54 | sorphin | Nov 22 02:18:41 TiVoS2 kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus1/1, assigned device number 4 |
| 20:32.31 | MonMotha | sorphin: my ipaq does that if I plug it into my external hub |
| 20:32.41 | MonMotha | plugging it directly into my comp fixes it |
| 20:33.16 | sorphin | there is no hub here tho |
| 20:33.25 | sorphin | it's direct from tivo usb port to usb ethernet |
| 20:33.28 | MonMotha | might be a power consumption issue (though the USB power lines on the ipaq don't power anything) |
| 20:33.32 | sorphin | it only does this after being stressed a while |
| 20:33.49 | MonMotha | maybe it is EMI? |
| 20:33.57 | MonMotha | excessive errors so the hub disables the poer |
| 20:33.58 | MonMotha | port |
| 20:35.52 | cpenguin_home | andersee: give any more thought to distributing the .iso for the uclibc distro? |
| 20:36.12 | sorphin | MonMotha: there is no hub tho |
| 20:36.32 | sorphin | it's just tivo -> cable -> adapter, not even a foot away |
| 20:37.26 | MonMotha | sorphin: there's your USB root hub |
| 20:37.32 | cpenguin_home | hub.c is just a driver, not an actual device |
| 20:37.50 | MonMotha | all USB systems have a hub...there's always the root hub |
| 20:37.54 | cpenguin_home | So basically, what I see is that the device is reseting itself |
| 20:38.25 | MonMotha | that's saying that the hub disabled the port for some reason, as opposed to a device disconnect (which basically means it removed the pull up resistors from the data lines) |
| 20:38.41 | cpenguin_home | Not nessesarly |
| 20:38.50 | cpenguin_home | disable != disconnect |
| 20:38.54 | MonMotha | definately a difference between the device disconnecting and the hub disabling the port for some odd reason |
| 20:39.01 | MonMotha | exactly, that's what I'm saying |
| 20:39.04 | sorphin | well, regardless |
| 20:39.06 | cpenguin_home | not it wasnt |
| 20:39.07 | sorphin | this is fscking annoying |
| 20:39.16 | sorphin | i'm in the middle of xfering video |
| 20:39.19 | sorphin | and it does this |
| 20:39.27 | sorphin | if i knew wtf |
| 20:39.31 | sorphin | kernel: pegasus.c: eth0: TX status -145 |
| 20:39.32 | sorphin | means |
| 20:39.46 | cpenguin_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.46 | cpenguin_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.46 | cpenguin_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.46 | cpenguin_home | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:39.46 | MonMotha | I know when a device disconnects itself the log message is different |
| 20:40.22 | MonMotha | yeah, I get that on my mouse every once in a while too...but my ipaq would do it constantly |
| 20:40.28 | MonMotha | I think my hub might be cheap |
| 20:40.46 | andersee | cpenguin_home: I've not made an iso, but I have made an ext2fs with my uClibc devel system.... ftp://ftp.uclibc.org/uClibc/root_fs_0.9.16.bz2 |
| 20:41.11 | cpenguin_home | andersee: sweet |
| 20:41.24 | andersee | cpenguin_home: Has gcc, g++, make, gdb, etc all dynamically linked vs uClibc |
| 20:41.33 | cpenguin_home | coreutils too? |
| 20:41.35 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: and that's from.... |
| 20:41.36 | andersee | cpenguin_home: Yup |
| 20:41.47 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: drivers/usb/hub.c |
| 20:42.02 | cpenguin_home | line 844 in 2.4.18+ |
| 20:42.21 | andersee | cpenguin_home: I built the thing using buildroot... http://www.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ |
| 20:42.46 | cpenguin_home | andersee: buildroot? Whats that? :-) |
| 20:43.08 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: i should see if it's in the kernel this is using.. since it's not .18 |
| 20:43.20 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: what are you using? |
| 20:44.14 | sorphin | 2.4.5ish (this is a tivo kernel, so...) |
| 20:45.01 | cpenguin_home | ahh |
| 20:45.05 | sorphin | yup |
| 20:45.06 | sorphin | it has it |
| 20:45.08 | cpenguin_home | I don't have anything that goes that far back |
| 20:45.09 | cpenguin_home | sorry |
| 20:45.32 | sorphin | doesn't need to |
| 20:45.37 | sorphin | it has that "hack" you mentioned |
| 20:45.43 | sorphin | that's the only reason the usb comes back up |
| 20:45.57 | sorphin | however, it of course screws the connection, and nukes eth0 from ifconfig |
| 20:46.07 | sorphin | i don't see how it could be EM tho |
| 20:46.17 | sorphin | this goes for an extended period before it dies |
| 20:46.19 | sorphin | every time |
| 20:46.40 | cpenguin_home | Well, EMI is just a guess - it basically resets if the status is not enabled, but the thing still shows a connection |
| 20:47.03 | cpenguin_home | So I bet your TX error is causing the status to get foobared |
| 20:47.12 | cpenguin_home | and this "EMI" thing is coming up |
| 20:48.09 | sorphin | nothing on google or kernel |
| 20:48.20 | sorphin | even finds error -145 |
| 20:52.28 | cpenguin_home | Looks like all the lasers are firing tonight... :) |
| 21:05.17 | LIM | lasers? |
| 21:05.25 | LIM | in peoples dvd/cdrom drives... |
| 21:05.36 | LIM | zap zap! |
| 21:09.32 | cpenguin_home | Lasers as in the fiber optics |
| 21:09.39 | cpenguin_home | but thanks for playing |
| 21:28.57 | LIM | bah |
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| 22:59.28 | sorphin | welp, i'd say this person wasn't very bright: |
| 22:59.29 | sorphin | lsanca1-ar2-008-186.lsanca1.dsl-verizon.net - - [21/Nov/2002:08:32:15 -0600] "CONNECT maila.microsoft.com:25 / HTTP/1.0" 405 231 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows NT 5.0)" |
| 23:06.24 | LIM | hmm, SMTP through HTTP... |
| 23:06.30 | LIM | a new form of tunneling |
| 23:08.05 | cpenguin_home | No, actually that would be HTTP through SMTP |
| 23:08.41 | LIM | uh...not from a web log... |
| 23:08.59 | LIM | ohhh |
| 23:09.01 | LIM | I see. |
| 23:09.30 | LIM | but it was from a webbroswer |
| 23:13.05 | sorphin | someone was trying to connect to that server |
| 23:13.09 | sorphin | via MY webserver |
| 23:21.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:21.09 | sorphin | ARM devel tools that supports Windows*.* |
| 23:21.13 | sorphin | lovely |
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| 23:46.01 | AlHaz | sorphin: It's not that far fetched. Most of it is just compiling the cross-compiler with cygwin. |
| 23:46.11 | AlHaz | sorphin: The question is *why |
| 23:46.32 | AlHaz | sorphin: the folks at lineo always fed me the line that "there are a lot more potential customers using windows" |
| 23:46.46 | AlHaz | that's what Caldera people tell me their strategy is, too. Seems to be working out great for 'em. |
| 23:46.53 | andersee | AlHaz: And a lot of good it did them... ;-) |
