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| 08:20.21 | kergoth | morning |
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| 08:40.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 08:41.45 | kergoth | hey CosmicPenguin, prpplague |
| 08:43.29 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 08:44.14 | prpplague | kergoth: got to get my backpack fedex'd to raj at comdex today |
| 08:44.26 | kergoth | nice |
| 08:46.40 | prpplague | kergoth: not too nice :( i promised him i'd ship it saturday and i didn't finish till late saturday |
| 08:46.54 | kergoth | doh |
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| 09:13.38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hello hello |
| 09:13.49 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how cool are you? |
| 09:13.58 | prpplague | cool? |
| 09:14.21 | kergoth | cool'dom? |
| 09:14.50 | prpplague | lol |
| 09:15.06 | kergoth | you groovy frood you |
| 09:15.13 | kergoth | god i hate mondays |
| 09:15.29 | prpplague | kergoth: i should have used the <sarcasism> tag |
| 09:16.32 | prpplague | kergoth: you and me both |
| 09:17.11 | prpplague | kergoth: today is a rehash of the "why don't we fix these problems so we don't have to deal with them over and over and over" |
| 09:17.33 | kergoth | hah |
| 09:17.39 | kergoth | been there, done that |
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| 09:28.59 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats better than "lets just do all this custom work for a customer today, and we can worry about the bugs when the next customer comes along" |
| 09:32.59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no thats the meeting after lunch! |
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| 09:48.25 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=2161 |
| 09:56.40 | fontenot | is that the moxi thing? |
| 09:59.57 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 10:00.03 | CosmicPenguin | pretty sexy looking |
| 10:02.38 | Russ|werk | morning |
| 10:02.48 | fontenot | yeah but not optimized for function |
| 10:03.00 | fontenot | their GUI looks like a bad set top box |
| 10:03.14 | fontenot | I mean the layout - not the graphics quality |
| 10:03.30 | fontenot | i hope that "evolves" before launch |
| 10:03.59 | fontenot | they should have just copied the tivo |
| 10:08.26 | prpplague | i was thinking about hacking my digital cable box, the gui is terrible |
| 10:08.43 | prpplague | its a jarold unit |
| 10:11.52 | fontenot | yeah mine is incredibly bad in so many ways |
| 10:11.59 | fontenot | slow, unreliable |
| 10:12.14 | fontenot | even using its own remote sometimes it changes to the wrong channel - drops digits |
| 10:13.42 | fontenot | happens when my tivo tries to change the channel sometimes too |
| 10:13.46 | fontenot | extremely annoying |
| 10:13.55 | fontenot | it's made by "general instrument" |
| 10:14.31 | fontenot | has an incredibly bright led clock |
| 10:14.44 | fontenot | terrible guide |
| 10:14.59 | fontenot | banner with ads which cannot be shortenned past 3 seconds |
| 10:15.37 | fontenot | i could go on but I'll stop |
| 10:28.40 | CosmicPenguin | fontenot: assuming that you can't get rid of the ads, what is the number one thing you would change about your STB? |
| 10:30.41 | fontenot | CosmicPenguin: I would have it change channels reliably |
| 10:31.15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, just got a call from a sales guy about term for linux |
| 10:31.29 | fontenot | next would probably be svideo output |
| 10:32.37 | prpplague | fontenot: my main thing is that the online tv guide starts at the first channel everytime and not at the channel you are on |
| 10:34.35 | CosmicPenguin | Mine does that - it pisses me off to no end |
| 10:34.50 | fontenot | prpplague: if I actually had to use the guide on mine I would go insane - luckily I like the tivo guide just fine |
| 10:34.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: did he say what his name was? And more importantly, did utter any profanities? |
| 10:35.13 | CosmicPenguin | (insert a you in that sentence somewhere) |
| 10:36.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, no, i just told him the app was garbage |
| 10:37.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: didn't catch his name |
| 10:37.17 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 10:37.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no offense, just not what i needed |
| 10:38.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not at $500 a pop |
| 10:39.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hahaha, just checked my mail...... |
| 10:40.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sam lowery |
| 10:40.20 | CosmicPenguin | hehehehe..... |
| 10:40.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: shall i spam back? |
| 10:41.20 | prpplague | signal11: ok if i send...oh how about 1000 emails back saying "i'm not interested!" |
| 10:41.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nah... poor Sam has to call pissed off people all day long, he deserves a break |
| 10:41.39 | CosmicPenguin | No wonder he is such a grouch |
| 10:42.14 | signal11 | i'll have your spam, dear. i love it! |
| 10:42.49 | prpplague | lol, i just sent a polite "remove me" note |
| 10:45.57 | signal11 | nice fonts and fancy graphics take up too much space. the tivo interface is the best tv interface ever. |
| 10:46.29 | signal11 | i'll have the autoresponder say "remove THIS" |
| 10:47.01 | prpplague | lol |
| 10:47.40 | CosmicPenguin | procmail: *@abcinc.com -> /dev/null |
| 10:47.46 | prpplague | lol |
| 10:48.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: don't forget i have almost 5000 net connected servers at my disposal |
| 10:51.30 | CosmicPenguin | <bad japanese dubbing> So the fight has been joined. We shall defeat you </dubbing> |
| 10:54.19 | signal11 | someone set up us the bomb! |
| 10:56.05 | prpplague | signal11: all your terms belong to us |
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| 11:33.14 | sjhill | anyone running Debian stable? |
| 11:33.21 | sjhill | i just need a 'cat /etc/issue' |
| 11:33.28 | sjhill | for some scripts i'm writing |
| 11:33.52 | prpplague | sjhill: "hello and welcome to something that isn't red hat!" |
| 11:34.10 | sjhill | no no |
| 11:34.23 | sjhill | 'Debian GNU XXXXX' is what i'm after |
| 11:35.38 | prpplague | sjhill: lol, sorry, debian here yet |
| 11:36.17 | signal11 | sorry, using unstable here |
| 11:36.25 | signal11 | stability is overrated |
| 11:37.22 | kergoth | unstable here as well |
| 11:37.32 | sjhill | k, thx anyway guys |
| 11:37.37 | sjhill | i'll improvise something |
| 11:41.05 | signal11 | Debian GNU/\s stable \n \l |
| 11:41.12 | signal11 | how about that |
| 11:41.18 | sjhill | signal11: perfect, thx |
| 11:41.33 | signal11 | that's just the one from stable with the "un" removed |
| 11:41.36 | signal11 | er from unstable |
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| 11:45.13 | CosmicPenguin | wait a second - compatability between versions? Nahhh..... |
| 11:46.49 | signal11 | compatibility is also overrated |
| 11:46.58 | signal11 | just use xp on everything and you'll be compatible |
| 11:47.10 | signal11 | uh oh, i'm asking to get kickbanned, aren't it |
| 11:47.17 | signal11 | s/it/I/ |
| 11:48.29 | andersee | signal11: I wasn't previously aware of you non-gender status. :) |
| 11:48.29 | andersee | s/you/your/ |
| 11:51.42 | signal11 | heh |
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| 12:43.56 | file | this is odd |
| 12:44.16 | file | something from NH... |
| 12:44.25 | sjhill | file: i'll show you odd...take a look at this mole on my butt |
| 12:44.39 | file | sjhill: that's... alien! |
| 12:44.47 | sjhill | heh |
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| 12:45.14 | file | hey mallum... |
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| 13:01.47 | CosmicPenguin | I dig the new newsforge look |
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| 14:03.44 | sorphin | "Paul Allen, co-founder of Microsoft, has embraced Linux in his latest product offering, Moxi. " |
| 14:03.47 | sorphin | God help us all |
| 14:03.53 | kergoth | hah |
| 14:04.20 | sorphin | heh, funny |
| 14:04.24 | sorphin | the name of hte company mentioned |
| 14:04.26 | sorphin | is Digeo |
| 14:04.32 | sorphin | sounds a lot like digi :P |
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| 14:04.57 | kergoth | bah |
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| 14:09.01 | sorphin | sup ker(non)goth ? |
| 14:09.16 | kergoth | nada, work sucks more than usual |
| 14:09.18 | kergoth | its monday |
| 14:09.38 | sorphin | no shit |
| 14:10.04 | sorphin | i was on a conference bridge w/ cisco, 3rd and 2nd level support since 9:30 this morning, just got off of it like an hour ago |
| 14:12.29 | kergoth | jeeze |
| 14:12.49 | sorphin | all becayse of that damn app i support |
| 14:12.56 | sorphin | heh, funny |
| 14:12.56 | sorphin | it broke |
| 14:12.59 | sorphin | then fixed itself |
| 14:13.02 | sorphin | damn jafa CRAP |
| 14:13.08 | kergoth | HEH |
| 14:13.14 | kergoth | i need to get the hell out of work before i kill something |
| 14:14.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:14.15 | sorphin | my food so far |
| 14:14.21 | sorphin | has been a cheese danish i just had |
| 14:14.23 | sorphin | and some fake juice |
| 14:14.26 | sorphin | and i leave at 5 |
| 14:14.33 | kergoth | heh |
| 14:14.34 | kergoth | that blows |
| 14:15.49 | sorphin | yupyup |
| 14:15.50 | sorphin | AND |
| 14:15.56 | sorphin | giga rejects all ssh connections |
| 14:16.02 | sorphin | prolly the fscking libc update |
| 14:16.14 | sorphin | if memory serves |
| 14:16.20 | sorphin | when you update glibc |
| 14:16.27 | sorphin | yhou usually have to restart the master sshd |
| 14:19.20 | andin | sorphin: and what kind of app did u have prob with ? :) |
| 14:19.43 | sorphin | tis out vpn provisioning app, it's a POS |
| 14:19.50 | sorphin | s/out/our/ |
| 14:20.13 | andin | hm. vpnsc ? |
| 14:20.20 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:20.25 | sorphin | you work for cisco? :P |
| 14:20.31 | andin | yup. ;) |
| 14:20.39 | sorphin | know joy lavigne? |
| 14:20.52 | andin | ...and support ipsec vpns stuff :) that's why I was intested :) |
| 14:21.25 | andin | hm. well, she looks pretty cute but I never met her ;) |
| 14:21.32 | sorphin | hehe |
| 14:21.41 | sorphin | she's our tac person |
| 14:21.47 | sorphin | just got married this past june |
| 14:21.52 | andin | i'm in bru, and she's somewhere in sj... |
| 14:22.00 | sorphin | yup |
| 14:22.10 | sorphin | was supposed to meet her when i was out in the bay area |
| 14:22.17 | sorphin | but she got trapped in work |
| 14:22.26 | sorphin | one thing i wish cisco woudl do |
| 14:22.37 | andin | heheh :) well, it's 10:30 pm now and i'm still in the office... :) |
| 14:22.52 | sorphin | is actually TEST IOS in real situations :P.. saying it'll run in 16/8 |
| 14:23.01 | sorphin | and it does, but not w/ anything going on it :P |
| 14:23.48 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: nah - its SOP to plug in a traffic generator, watch the lights go, and then call it good |
| 14:23.51 | andin | heh. well, that's something i say as well sometimes, but being in enterprise support... man...people find som many ways to fsck the things up... ;) |
| 14:23.53 | sorphin | bru == brussels ? |
| 14:24.04 | andin | sorphin: yup. |
| 14:24.28 | sorphin | actually, you're in close to the right "nitch".. but we do MPLS vpns |
| 14:24.33 | sorphin | not ipsec |
| 14:24.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: true.. till you try and have ipv6 and BGP running at the same time :P |
| 14:26.59 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: nah - why would we test that? Nobody will never have ipv6 and BGP running at the same time </sarcasm> |
| 14:27.36 | CosmicPenguin | Seriously though - most network gear makers don't have an adequate in house test lab |
| 14:27.46 | CosmicPenguin | They just do basic testing, send it off for standards testing, and thats that |
| 14:28.23 | sorphin | yeah |
| 14:28.27 | andin | sorphin: well, i'm only touching the vrf thingie when it comes to terminating the vpn clients on the same box and then throwing them into different vrfs... i've enuff things to do with other stuffs :) now tracing some other cool bug... looks like a flawed logic down at the basement somewhere - thanks god u can call my checking function every entry and exit point... otherwise would've been impossible... |
| 14:29.20 | sorphin | what's annoying here |
| 14:29.25 | sorphin | is how picky vpnsc is |
| 14:29.30 | andin | CosmicPenguin: well, in fact afaik, the IOS is being tested couple of weeks... the problem is that there's gazillion of test scenarios... :( |
| 14:29.35 | sorphin | if it doesn't get an error it recognizes |
| 14:29.42 | sorphin | it sits there and twiddles its thumbs |
| 14:29.56 | sorphin | instead of there being a last resort catchall |
| 14:30.37 | andin | heh. yeah, that's kinda bad :( although I don't believe too much in management apps. all of the best management things are home-made. |
| 14:30.49 | CosmicPenguin | andin: I used to work for a competitor - bashing IOS was pretty much what I was brought up to do... :) |
| 14:31.00 | sorphin | andin: we don't ahve a choice when it comes ot using vpnsc |
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| 14:31.07 | sorphin | blame backbone |
| 14:32.05 | andin | sorphin: ah, so u're forced.. well hopefully they could file a bug on that or something... all of those management apps are ever evolving. ....and once it's working, it gets off the shelves ;)) |
| 14:32.18 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:32.21 | sorphin | you don't wanna know |
| 14:32.26 | sorphin | what i had to go through before |
| 14:32.35 | sorphin | just to get you guys to admit |
| 14:32.38 | sorphin | that something was a bug :P |
| 14:32.54 | sorphin | "that's a feature request" |
| 14:32.58 | sorphin | my arse it was |
| 14:33.09 | sorphin | finally, it was admitted it was a bug and a fix was made |
| 14:34.15 | andin | *lol* :) well error handling is something i'm very picky about normally. if the features of the app does not include sufficient error handling - then it's a flawed design, imo. |
| 14:34.24 | sorphin | actually |
| 14:34.27 | sorphin | the bug was something else |
| 14:34.40 | sorphin | when we create/modify/whatever |
| 14:34.45 | sorphin | a svc request |
| 14:35.03 | sorphin | we almost always have redist static/connected route checked |
| 14:35.18 | sorphin | vpnsc doesn't follow through and SET that in the RPM |
| 14:35.35 | sorphin | it just ignores it, or in cases where it was there, removes it |
| 14:35.39 | sorphin | taking a cust down |
| 14:36.00 | andin | whoops... doesn't look like a feature req to me ;) |
| 14:36.17 | sorphin | exactly ;) |
| 14:36.52 | andin | ok. yet another debug image put on the box. now i can smoke for the next two hours probably... ;) |
| 14:37.00 | sorphin | hehe |
| 14:37.07 | sorphin | and now |
| 14:37.13 | sorphin | you basts EOL my damn router |
| 14:37.16 | MonMotha | hum, speaking of cisco stuff... |
| 14:37.35 | sorphin | MonMotha: shaddup :P *grin* |
| 14:37.37 | MonMotha | anyone happen to know the settings for the console port on a 2820 off the top of their head? |
| 14:37.41 | MonMotha | or am I gunna have to google? |
| 14:37.58 | sorphin | what you mean the settings? |
| 14:38.08 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 14:38.10 | sorphin | all cisco use 9600/n/8/1 no flow ctrl |
| 14:38.13 | MonMotha | bitrate, etc |
| 14:38.16 | MonMotha | hum, that's what I've got |
| 14:38.21 | sorphin | unless on the newer crap |
| 14:38.27 | sorphin | you implicitly say otherwise |
| 14:38.32 | sorphin | rolled cable? |
| 14:39.25 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 14:39.30 | sorphin | hmm |
| 14:39.31 | MonMotha | I think this thing's set in modem mode |
| 14:39.35 | MonMotha | I jsut got "ATQ0Z" over the port |
| 14:39.40 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:39.44 | sorphin | on the *console* port ? |
| 14:39.53 | sorphin | maybe on the au x port |
| 14:39.53 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 14:39.58 | MonMotha | it says console port |
| 14:41.02 | sorphin | hmm |
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| 14:41.18 | sorphin | can you get in the router at all? even on telnet? |
| 14:41.27 | andin | MonMotha: and the cable is rolled & the adapter is labeled "terminal" ? |
| 14:41.37 | andin | or u use some home-made stuff ? :) |
| 14:41.45 | sorphin | andin: got any lead on a cheap price on a 7121? ;) |
| 14:41.56 | sorphin | erm |
| 14:41.56 | MonMotha | andin: the cable is rolled and the adapter labeled terminal |
| 14:41.59 | sorphin | make that |
| 14:42.01 | sorphin | 1721 |
| 14:42.09 | sorphin | the replacement for my 16xx series routers |
| 14:42.12 | MonMotha | I'm definately getting valid data, but it's trying to talk to a modem |
| 14:42.22 | andin | sorphin: no idea - i'm in no way involved into sales :) that was one of the reasons i quit prev job ;) |
| 14:42.33 | andin | MonMotha: hm. did you try answering "OK" ? :) |
| 14:42.41 | MonMotha | andin: that's what Im' doing |
| 14:42.51 | sorphin | andin: cisco way overprices hardawre :P |
| 14:42.59 | sorphin | i'm just glad i don't have to pay for IOS :P |
| 14:43.53 | andin | sorphin: well maybe. that's not anything I can decide/influence anyway ;) I just have those cases to fix ;) |
| 14:44.38 | sorphin | andin: now that i know who you are :P |
| 14:44.43 | sorphin | i'll have to open a case w/ you :P |
| 14:45.34 | andin | sorphin: heheh :) well, if you get some pix stuff for me during your nite - would be fun ;) |
| 14:45.47 | MonMotha | all I can get out of this thin is ATQ0H0 |
| 14:45.58 | sorphin | MonMotha: it's sacked |
| 14:46.21 | sorphin | andin: heh, i read that one article about building a pix |
| 14:46.21 | MonMotha | well, I got an init string |
| 14:46.38 | sorphin | andin: only hard piece ot get is the flash bit |
| 14:47.42 | andin | sorphin: yup. luckily ;) otherwise we'd have smart techies building the stuff and selling those to clueless [...], who would then call us "how do I assign the IP address here?" :)) |
| 14:47.52 | MonMotha | sorphin: it doesn't even give me any text on startup...you'd think it would at least give startup text |
| 14:48.15 | sorphin | MonMotha: done a "break" |
| 14:48.16 | sorphin | ? |
| 14:48.58 | MonMotha | sorphin: nothin |
| 14:49.09 | sorphin | within the 1st 30 seconds ? |
| 14:49.13 | MonMotha | oh, hang on |
| 14:51.08 | MonMotha | immediately sends back a modem init string |
| 14:51.15 | andin | hm. wtf... looks like the pinout is screwedon that box or something.. hang on, I'm gonna check out some cases.. |
| 14:51.15 | MonMotha | I guess I could hook a modem up to it... |
| 14:52.03 | MonMotha | hum, I wonder if it's got an IP |
| 14:53.01 | andin | hang on... but the 2820 has the DB9 console port, rite ? |
| 14:53.15 | MonMotha | yes |
| 14:53.19 | MonMotha | I'm getting valid data off of it |
| 14:53.24 | MonMotha | using a null modem cable |
| 14:53.31 | MonMotha | just modem stuff |
| 14:54.07 | andin | heh. but how do you make the null-modem cable - is it two "cisco" rj45-to-db9 adapters ? |
| 14:54.29 | MonMotha | yeah, but I've also tried a commercially made null modem cable |
| 14:54.33 | MonMotha | dunno how it's wired tho |
| 14:54.39 | MonMotha | I could hack one together really quick if I had to |
| 14:55.25 | andin | looks like there's some quirk with this... lemme check out further... |
| 14:55.39 | MonMotha | heh, figures |
| 14:58.19 | andin | MonMotha, what's your email - looks liek there's some kind of tip with regards to it - but the contents are too US-localized for me to understand.. wonder if it would make any sense 4u.. |
| 14:58.29 | MonMotha | ibot monmotha |
| 14:58.29 | | extra, extra, read all about it, monmotha is mailto:zbazbgun@vaql.ee.pbz (un-ROT13) |
| 15:02.08 | andin | hm. kewl.. :) ...sent. |
| 15:02.59 | sorphin | andin: while you're here |
| 15:03.05 | sorphin | maybe you can help w/ this |
| 15:03.14 | sorphin | aka dual ether |
| 15:03.20 | sorphin | BECAUSE it's dual ether |
| 15:03.27 | sorphin | i can't do IP unnumbered |
| 15:03.36 | sorphin | cuz they aren't PtoP interfaces |
| 15:04.23 | sorphin | i need this router as a gateway/firewall, but i don't have a shiteload of IPs to give it, and i DETEST NAT, since the hosts on my side of it, have real public ips that need to be reachable |
| 15:04.25 | sorphin | ideas? |
| 15:04.55 | andin | hm. lemme think.. |
| 15:05.50 | andin | and what is the addressing scheme that you have ? |
| 15:06.05 | andin | say, on the outside - do you just have one def gw for it & that's it ? |
| 15:06.44 | sorphin | well, currently, all the public IP hosts don't even live behind anything |
| 15:07.06 | andin | aha. so what we need is something like a "firewalling bridge" :) |
| 15:07.10 | sorphin | they're just all on my switch, and both ethers on hte 1605 are as well (so my non public ip boxes can get to the net) |
| 15:07.12 | sorphin | yes |
| 15:07.20 | sorphin | my dsl modem already bridges too |
| 15:08.59 | MonMotha | fireawlling bridge? get a linux box :) |
| 15:09.04 | sorphin | MonMotha: no |
| 15:09.09 | sorphin | ibot: tell monmotha |
| 15:09.15 | sorphin | bah |
| 15:09.18 | sorphin | stupid ibot |
| 15:09.21 | sorphin | ibot: die |
| 15:09.21 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless. |
| 15:09.26 | MonMotha | ibot you're stupid |
| 15:09.26 | | parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, MonMotha |
| 15:09.30 | MonMotha | ibot you suck |
| 15:09.30 | | :( |
| 15:09.31 | sorphin | cool |
| 15:09.36 | sorphin | you can make it commit suicide |
| 15:09.38 | sorphin | ibot: die |
| 15:09.38 | | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples lifeless. |
| 15:13.04 | andin | sorphin: hm. well, static host routes on the def gw & static arps on the inside hosts would probably do the trick but looks like it sucks ;) |
| 15:13.35 | andin | nope. wont work.. |
| 15:13.44 | MonMotha | thx andin |
| 15:13.46 | MonMotha | looks interesting |
| 15:14.00 | andin | unless you would also get the policy routing from the outside interface towards inside intf... |
| 15:14.20 | andin | MonMotha: as I said, I have no clue what they meant by "kit available in majority of the shops" :) |
| 15:14.51 | sorphin | andin: eh? |
| 15:14.57 | andin | MonMotha: let me see, maybe there's something more detailed on the TacWeb there.. |
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| 15:15.36 | sorphin | andin: dunno if monmotha has cco access ;) |
| 15:17.41 | andin | http://www.groupstudy.com/archives/ccielab/200101/msg01596.html |
| 15:17.42 | andin | :) |
| 15:18.04 | andin | that doc is more understandable to me. :) no "kits available at your local grocery" bs ;) |
| 15:19.14 | andin | MonMotha: from that doc looks like you can sacrifice one of the db9-to-rj45 converters and hack it a bit.. ;) |
| 15:19.24 | andin | because majorly the wiring is the same.. |
| 15:22.20 | sorphin | andin: so.... |
| 15:22.35 | MonMotha | no I don't have any access to cisco stuff |
| 15:22.41 | MonMotha | but I can just make it using a couple DB9 ends |
| 15:23.04 | andin | sorphin: hm. actually, if the default GW is the cisco rtr with something later than 12.1.5T (let's say 12.2mainline), and you put something bleeding onto this 1605, you could do pppoe client on the 1605's outside, and terminate that on the def gw ;) |
| 15:23.19 | andin | MonMotha: the doc from groupstudy has the pinouts. |
| 15:24.06 | andin | sorphin: ...but I am not sure you still would be able to use ip unnum... could an interesting test to make ;) |
| 15:24.08 | sorphin | andin: ummmm.. but i have nothing to pppoe to.. |
| 15:24.29 | sorphin | one of my live IPs is taken my by upstream, just so i don't have to |
| 15:24.33 | sorphin | they put it on their end |
| 15:24.39 | sorphin | and route my whole block down my dsl |
| 15:25.24 | andin | wait. but if you have the dsl this _means_ you _have_ pppox. |
| 15:25.39 | sorphin | nope |
| 15:25.42 | MonMotha | not all DSL is PPPoE |
| 15:25.44 | sorphin | not required |
| 15:25.50 | andin | ahm. just pure pvc ? |
| 15:25.51 | sorphin | not for static |
| 15:25.53 | sorphin | yes |
| 15:26.00 | sorphin | i have an ATM pvc to them |
| 15:26.02 | andin | MonMotha: rite. i forgot about static pvc... |
| 15:26.22 | MonMotha | I've set up DSL lines where the "modem" just acts as a bridge between the local ethernet and the ATM line at the other end |
| 15:26.30 | sorphin | damn c(r)isco :P |
| 15:26.37 | andin | hm. but the dsl rtr - is this a cisco stuff ? |
| 15:26.39 | sorphin | MonMotha: tha's what mind does |
| 15:26.52 | sorphin | andin: the dsl "router" is actually a bridge |
| 15:27.06 | sorphin | cuz it's just as useless as my damn cisco gear atm :P |
| 15:27.32 | sorphin | i've tried making a tunnel out of the 2 ethers |
| 15:27.34 | sorphin | no luck |
| 15:27.48 | andin | sorphin: nah. this wont work.. ok brb - phone... |
| 15:27.53 | sorphin | k |
| 15:28.22 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: where am i? |
| 15:28.22 | | CosmicPenguin: I give up, what is it? |
| 15:28.32 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ciscoland |
| 15:28.35 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: forget it, I thought that I had been transported to #cisco |
| 15:28.35 | | CosmicPenguin: i didn't have anything called 'it, i thought that i had been transported to #cisco' |
| 15:28.52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: least it's not Pixilland :P |
| 15:29.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you wish |
| 15:29.36 | sorphin | i'm glad it's not |
| 15:29.47 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, you say that now |
| 15:29.53 | sorphin | and tomorrow |
| 15:29.56 | sorphin | and the next day |
| 15:29.57 | sorphin | .... |
| 15:30.04 | CosmicPenguin | but once it goes open, I know I'll see your IP address on the download logs |
| 15:30.11 | CosmicPenguin | Kinda like your hidden XP fetish |
| 15:30.12 | sorphin | doubtful :P |
| 15:30.16 | sorphin | eh? |
| 15:30.27 | sorphin | much less have a fetish for it |
| 15:32.29 | CosmicPenguin | denial is the first stage |
| 15:32.50 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:32.53 | sorphin | denial? |
| 15:32.56 | sorphin | it's a fact |
| 15:33.20 | sorphin | all that lovely DRM crap |
| 15:35.30 | CosmicPenguin | on a completely different subject, anyone going metor watching tonight? |
| 15:36.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i going to go see some heavenly bodies........ |
| 15:36.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: at the nudie bar |
| 15:38.27 | sorphin | prpplague: ok Al |
| 15:39.12 | prpplague | al is my hero |
| 15:39.39 | prpplague | actually a mutant combination of al/homer/dexter |
| 15:42.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: mmm.... nudie bar |
| 15:42.24 | Russ|werk | afternoon |
| 15:42.31 | Russ|werk | I saw a pos truck today |
| 15:42.45 | Russ|werk | personel overall suppliers |
| 15:43.08 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so where's the meteor sky wise tonight? |
| 15:43.28 | Russ|werk | probably right where the big, bright, full moon is |
| 15:43.34 | Russ|werk | just look in that direction |
| 15:44.28 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:44.28 | sorphin | k |
| 15:45.52 | CosmicPenguin | apparently everywhere - everyone says that this will be the best metor shower for the next 100 years |
| 15:46.09 | CosmicPenguin | for the lenoids, there is no one origin point, apparently |
| 15:46.32 | sorphin | too bad it's gonna be cloudy here :/ |
| 15:46.41 | CosmicPenguin | doh |
| 15:46.55 | CosmicPenguin | NASA is doing a webcast, if you feel like staying up until 4:30 to watch it... :) |
| 15:47.04 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:47.07 | signal11 | Tonight: Clear to partly cloudy. Low 29F. |
| 15:47.25 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: you going out? |
| 15:47.34 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: after all, your son should be keeping you up anyway |
| 15:47.34 | signal11 | if I can stay awake, I'll try to watch |
| 15:47.36 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 15:47.38 | signal11 | heh |
| 15:47.40 | signal11 | indeed |
| 15:49.01 | signal11 | that's a great idea |
| 15:49.06 | CosmicPenguin | actually, I liked - apparently they are going to originate from the east here, so maybe I should go up emmigration |
| 15:49.08 | signal11 | but a long ass drive |
| 15:49.17 | CosmicPenguin | http://starryskies.com/leonids/star-charts-mst.html |
| 15:49.34 | Russ|werk | perfectly clear here in phoenix |
| 15:49.43 | Russ|werk | have to drive a long way to get away from the lights though |
| 15:49.44 | signal11 | i don't think it matters as long as the city lights are blocked |
| 15:50.00 | Russ|werk | with the amount of haze there is today, it will |
| 15:50.14 | signal11 | pollution rules |
| 15:50.21 | signal11 | we get a lot of that here |
| 15:51.32 | Russ|werk | its mainly dust and stuff like that here |
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| 16:20.35 | andersee | Russ|werk: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/debian-boot-200211/msg00486.html and http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2002/debian-boot-200211/msg00498.html |
| 16:32.12 | andin | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:35.23 | Russ|werk | prpplague: did you get a chance to drop that stuff off in the mail? |
| 16:36.58 | prpplague | negative, i've been swamped, scouts honor tomorrow morning |
| 16:37.06 | Russ|werk | no hurry |
| 16:37.15 | Russ|werk | I'm still trying to get the nfsroot setup and working |
| 16:38.57 | Russ|werk | andersee: he isn't using the scripts |
| 16:39.15 | Russ|werk | andersee: the first thing the script does is ifconfig $interface 0.0.0.0 |
| 16:39.48 | Russ|werk | andersee: It might be a good idea to allow the compiling in of a small c script that handles udhcpc stuff |
| 16:40.21 | Russ|werk | but really, for the debian boot disks, they should have some kind of custorm script that does things in a really inteligent way |
| 16:40.29 | andersee | Russ|werk: agreed |
| 16:40.37 | andersee | Russ|werk: A simple c app would be nice |
| 16:41.02 | andersee | Russ|werk: I think Tim's script for the tuxscreen is quite nice |
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| 16:43.43 | CosmicPenguin | I've used Tim's script on other devices with no problems |
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| 17:02.53 | CosmicPenguin | Uh oh - here come the clouds |
| 17:14.01 | Russ|werk | its a little early for that CosmicPenguin |
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| 17:25.51 | sorphin | heh, it's not every day M$ sends you a check.. heh ;) |
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| 18:42.16 | Morn | sorphin: you there? |
| 18:43.40 | sorphin | Morn: yup |
| 18:44.09 | Morn | I got the $1.04 DVD-R's today |
| 18:44.15 | Morn | but they only write at 1x |
| 18:44.16 | Morn | :-( |
| 18:44.31 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:44.33 | sorphin | i know |
| 18:44.57 | sorphin | if no speed is mentioned, always assume 1x |
| 18:45.23 | sorphin | the 2x media -> meritline was a bit more than the 1x obviously |
| 18:45.25 | sorphin | and so on |
| 18:46.43 | Morn | oh well |
| 18:46.47 | Morn | it'll work for what I need |
| 18:46.50 | Morn | just take longer to write |
| 18:47.41 | jacques | Morn: you produce dvds? |
| 18:47.49 | jacques | do you use linux software? |
| 18:48.07 | Morn | jacques: no, to my knowledge there is no linux software author a video dvd |
| 18:48.29 | jacques | damn |
| 18:48.38 | jacques | i was hoping there was |
| 18:50.29 | sorphin | nope |
| 18:50.29 | sorphin | tisn't any |
| 18:50.29 | sorphin | well |
| 18:50.34 | sorphin | except for Gear |
| 18:50.39 | sorphin | there's a linux and unix version |
| 18:51.04 | Morn | that just burns the dvd |
| 18:51.08 | Morn | not author the dvd |
| 18:52.09 | sorphin | i know |
| 18:52.22 | sorphin | twas just pointing out it's the only linux stuff i've seen |
| 18:53.06 | Morn | and UDF support under linux is poor at best anyway |
| 18:53.44 | sorphin | nod |
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| 18:57.16 | fishhead | uhh |
| 18:57.21 | fishhead | what is this about |
| 18:57.24 | fishhead | a linux powered phone ? |
| 18:57.29 | Morn | yeah |
| 18:57.30 | file | yes yes yes |
| 18:57.35 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:57.37 | fishhead | oh |
| 18:57.42 | Morn | I agreed to be contracted to fix a VB app |
| 18:57.46 | fishhead | anyone here done any lcd hacking by chance ? |
| 18:57.50 | sorphin | Morn: you must be insane |
| 18:58.03 | Morn | sorphin: $50/hr is $50/hr |
| 18:58.26 | sorphin | not if it costs you your soul ;) |
| 18:58.46 | Morn | I don't think it is that dire |
| 18:59.09 | Morn | and if they contract for 200 hours of work, I won't argue |
| 18:59.32 | sorphin | nod |
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| 19:31.03 | sorphin | Morn: still alive? |
| 19:32.17 | Morn | kinda |
| 19:32.24 | Morn | nero locked up |
| 19:32.30 | Morn | one blank coaster |
| 19:32.38 | sorphin | you have any other dvd reading drive? trying to decide on a dvdrom drive too |
| 19:32.38 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:32.55 | sorphin | that's why it never hurts to "simulate" 1st ;) |
| 19:33.23 | Morn | I actually have 3 DVD devices |
| 19:33.36 | Morn | a genric ROM, a HP 100i an the Sony DRU-500A |
| 19:34.36 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:34.45 | sorphin | just wanna get a "generic" that read decent |
| 19:37.38 | Morn | I'm not sure who makes this one |
| 19:37.56 | Morn | the Sony drive only reads video at 2x max, which is weird |
| 19:38.02 | Morn | my HP reads video at like 5.5x |
| 19:38.08 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:38.19 | sorphin | prolly an eventual firmware could fix it |
| 19:38.29 | Morn | I'm trying gear now |
| 19:38.39 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:48.52 | jacques | there was a formware update for the sony a few days ago |
| 19:48.57 | jacques | firmware |
| 19:49.09 | jacques | dont remember what it did tho |
| 19:49.54 | Morn | a new one? |
| 19:50.00 | Morn | I thought I checked in the last week |
| 19:51.32 | jacques | http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/021118/sfm066_1.html |
| 19:51.58 | jacques | "The firmware upgrade will add support for up to 4X DVD+R recording and will enhance DVD reading performance" |
| 19:52.20 | jacques | I originally saw it on cdrlabs.com |
| 19:56.09 | Morn | hmmm |
| 19:56.12 | Morn | try to download it though |
| 19:56.15 | Morn | it's a loop |
| 19:56.34 | jacques | oh crap - it looks like it's not out yet |
| 19:56.44 | jacques | I didnt get that from reading the articles :-( |
| 19:56.45 | Morn | http://sony.storagesupport.com/dvdrw/dru500adwn.htm |
| 19:57.04 | Morn | the yahoo article indicates it'll be out on or before Dec 9 |
| 19:57.27 | jacques | well I thught they meant something like it was only free on or before, but I guess that makes no sense |
| 19:58.02 | jacques | sorry to get your hopes up |
| 19:58.14 | Morn | tis ok |
| 19:59.03 | jacques | Morn: do you already have 1.0d ? |
| 19:59.11 | jacques | apparently that's available |
| 19:59.31 | Morn | yes |
| 19:59.41 | jacques | nod |
| 20:00.18 | Morn | I've got to be like the the only technically unemployed person with 2 DVD burners |
| 20:00.57 | jacques | heh |
| 20:07.18 | Morn | gear doesn't give as good a feedback on progress as nero |
| 20:13.44 | jacques | jeez is anything up right now? |
| 20:14.07 | jacques | sourceforge is down, my att.net account is down |
| 20:24.18 | Morn | I think I frustrated my doctor today |
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| 20:58.36 | Morn | woot! |
| 20:58.51 | cpenguin_home | Morn: thanks, its good to be back... :-) |
| 20:59.09 | Morn | giggle |
| 20:59.38 | Morn | the 2nd dvd from the pack of 100 I burned works in my dvd player |
| 21:00.26 | jacques | Morn: what player do you have? |
| 21:00.52 | Morn | jvc dual deck |
| 21:00.59 | jacques | dual? |
| 21:01.10 | jacques | not familiar with that |
| 21:01.18 | Morn | both dvd and vcr |
| 21:01.27 | jacques | ah |
| 21:01.36 | jacques | biab - food |
| 21:03.54 | MonMotha | jacques: well, my DNS is down too...add that to the list |
| 21:10.31 | jacques | MonMotha: :-( |
| 21:11.01 | jacques | now i just need my home dsl to go down |
| 21:11.02 | MonMotha | jacques: only certain hosts tho...I think it might be a problem on their end |
| 21:11.22 | jacques | MonMotha: i have been noticing a lot of dns problems recently |
| 21:11.38 | jacques | remote dns servers going down or being off-net |
| 21:12.57 | cpenguin_home | is that still a DoS issue? |
| 21:13.06 | jacques | possibly |
| 21:13.07 | MonMotha | that was jsut some idiot DoSing the root servers |
| 21:13.11 | MonMotha | should effect higher level domains |
| 21:13.36 | MonMotha | unless the cache time on the higher level ones is longer than the root domain and recursive lookups start failing |
| 21:13.43 | jacques | crap |
| 21:14.01 | cpenguin_home | I'll bet there are still more broken binds out there than fixed, sadly |
| 21:14.03 | jacques | hmm maybe just netsplit |
| 21:14.14 | MonMotha | just looks like a split |
| 21:14.17 | jacques | my fontenot (home) acct just droipped off |
| 21:14.45 | sorphin | i've had 0 dns probs |
| 21:14.48 | cpenguin_home | Oddly, signal11 and CosmicPenguin should have been on the same net |
| 21:15.19 | sorphin | no necessarily the same server tho |
| 21:15.22 | sorphin | not even |
| 21:15.36 | cpenguin_home | sure |
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| 21:15.56 | sorphin | seen any flying rocks yet? |
| 21:16.32 | cpenguin_home | Nope, and I hope the clouds are not an issue in 5 hours |
| 21:16.36 | sorphin | supposed to clear here after midnight |
| 21:16.44 | cpenguin_home | right now its mostly cloudly |
| 21:16.49 | sorphin | this kinda reminds me of when i had the telescope i had |
| 21:16.52 | cpenguin_home | quick, to the weatherchannelmobile |
| 21:17.05 | sorphin | the 1st time i ever saw saturn w/ my own eyes |
| 21:17.13 | sorphin | was just.. weird |
| 21:17.40 | sorphin | seeing the stuff (to me anyways) on tv, etc.. is nothing compared to seeing it for yourself |
| 21:17.49 | jacques | too much light where i am :-( |
| 21:18.21 | cpenguin_home | I see clearing |
| 21:19.41 | cpenguin_home | Hmmm.... its gonna be hit or miss |
| 21:20.31 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: good luck |
| 21:20.32 | jacques | when i was driving cross country i saw a huge meteor |
| 21:20.47 | sorphin | jacques: it almost hit your car? |
| 21:20.52 | jacques | it left a trail over most of the sky |
| 21:20.57 | jacques | and was really bright |
| 21:21.07 | sorphin | sure it wasn't the UFO coming back for you? ;) |
| 21:21.25 | jacques | and at the end it broke into several pieces |
| 21:21.31 | jacques | and they all left trails |
| 21:21.43 | jacques | it was cool |
| 21:21.44 | sorphin | never seen any meteors |
| 21:21.47 | cpenguin_home | jacques: I've seen one like that but not that big |
| 21:21.53 | cpenguin_home | but that kind of thing stays with you for the rest of your life |
| 21:22.00 | jacques | yep |
| 21:22.09 | sorphin | just like my seeing saturn |
| 21:22.13 | sorphin | and tonight |
| 21:22.18 | sorphin | if i manage to see any meteors |
| 21:22.19 | cpenguin_home | I used to live in Northern Wyoming (in other words, zero light pollution) |
| 21:22.24 | jacques | yeah my dad had a telescope when i was a kid |
| 21:22.46 | cpenguin_home | In fact, I couldn't figure out why people didn't know how to find the Milky Way, because I saw millions of stars every night when I was growing up |
| 21:22.48 | jacques | we used to look at the mon, saturn, jupiter |
| 21:23.01 | sorphin | jacques: the only thing out at the time was saturn |
| 21:23.03 | jacques | yeah i lived in small towns mostly too |
| 21:23.06 | sorphin | lil orangish star |
| 21:23.08 | sorphin | wasn't sure what it was |
| 21:23.15 | sorphin | till i got the scope on it |
| 21:23.30 | cpenguin_home | Anyway, one time we were driving back from some place, and we were in the middle of the badlands when a metor shower picked up |
| 21:23.32 | cpenguin_home | It was very cool |
| 21:23.33 | jacques | sorphin: did you see some of the moons? |
| 21:23.55 | sorphin | jacques: unfortunately no, tho i could make out some ringage... twas winter |
| 21:24.04 | jacques | nod |
| 21:24.27 | sorphin | that was the $600 telescope i couldn't justify keeping |
| 21:24.34 | jacques | :-( |
| 21:24.51 | jacques | the good ones do cost $$ |
| 21:24.57 | sorphin | i'd love to get to see through one of those big telescope |
| 21:24.59 | sorphin | s |
| 21:25.05 | sorphin | heh, this one was a smart one |
| 21:25.07 | cpenguin_home | One of my co-workers has a calendar with pictures from Voyager |
| 21:25.14 | sorphin | based on time/date/where you were |
| 21:25.18 | sorphin | it knew where *everything* was |
| 21:25.22 | cpenguin_home | One of the pictures is of Io, in front of jupiter |
| 21:25.34 | sorphin | cool |
| 21:25.40 | cpenguin_home | Can you imagine standing on one of those moons, and having a planet so big, that its like a huge wall in front of you? |
| 21:25.53 | jacques | heh |
| 21:26.02 | sorphin | a planet |
| 21:26.05 | cpenguin_home | I mean, an entire 180 degrees of vision is just some clouds? |
| 21:26.06 | sorphin | that almost is a sun |
| 21:26.14 | sorphin | but just not quite |
| 21:27.00 | sorphin | and of course you'd see the red spot pretty damn well |
| 21:27.43 | Morn | sorphin: the dvd that gear made works in my player! |
| 21:27.46 | jacques | which is a huge storm |
| 21:27.51 | sorphin | Morn: cool |
| 21:27.52 | cpenguin_home | I don't think mankind is build to handle that sort of size scale |
| 21:27.54 | sorphin | jacques: yup |
| 21:28.04 | jacques | Morn: congrats |
| 21:28.06 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: i agree.. that'd be why we're on lil old earth ;) |
| 21:28.23 | Morn | right now I'm just buring the dvd's I had stored on my hard drive |
| 21:28.26 | sorphin | isn't it like a few hundred earth's could fit into jupiter? |
| 21:28.41 | cpenguin_home | More than that isn't it? |
| 21:28.52 | jacques | did you see there is a runaway black hole heading our way? |
| 21:28.56 | sorphin | don't remember.. haven't had astronomy since HS |
| 21:29.02 | cpenguin_home | 117, actually |
| 21:29.17 | sorphin | jacques: i'll stick w/ the movie ;) |
| 21:29.23 | sorphin | Maximillian! |
| 21:29.27 | jacques | heh |
| 21:29.36 | cpenguin_home | I lied again |
| 21:29.36 | jacques | i saw that as a kid |
| 21:29.38 | cpenguin_home | # It has a diameter that is about 11.25 times the diameter of the Earth, therefore about 1,400 Earths can fit inside Jupiter. |
| 21:29.40 | jacques | never understood the ending |
| 21:30.23 | sorphin | and if it were a bit more dense |
| 21:30.27 | sorphin | it'd be sun #2 |
| 21:30.39 | cpenguin_home | http://www.ferris.edu/HTMLS/News/fyi/dec1197/redspot/jupefact.htm |
| 21:30.44 | cpenguin_home | Its such a failure... :) |
| 21:31.20 | sorphin | "....and it is sometimes said that |
| 21:31.21 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:31.22 | sorphin | " |
| 21:31.43 | jacques | hmm good source of volatiles tho |
| 21:31.45 | sorphin | it makes up for it in it's size tho |
| 21:31.52 | sorphin | big mofo |
| 21:32.08 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:32.09 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.09 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.09 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.40 | sorphin | i'd weigh about 550 then |
| 21:32.40 | sorphin | eesh |
| 21:33.21 | sorphin | heh, the red spot could hold 3 earths |
| 21:34.15 | sorphin | man.. i gotta get back into astronomy |
| 21:35.42 | jacques | they keep making new discoveries |
| 21:36.15 | MonMotha | The best way to accellerate a windows machine is at 9.8 meters per second squared. |
| 21:36.36 | jacques | heh |
| 21:37.18 | jacques | just think how fast one would be on jupiter |
| 21:37.42 | cpenguin_home | MonMotha: thats only if you don't have access to a good cannon... :) |
| 21:38.10 | MonMotha | cpenguin_home: true |
| 21:46.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:46.55 | sorphin | imagine 10 hour days |
| 21:47.47 | *** join/#tuxscreen Morn (~julie@ultrasparc.ipv6.magenet.com) |
| 21:48.14 | Morn | shoot, gear locked up my machine 2x after finishing the dvd |
| 21:48.20 | Morn | I thought it was a fluke the first time |
| 21:50.26 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:50.28 | sorphin | And if you are watching at just the right time: you could see over five thousand meteors per hour! |
| 21:50.33 | sorphin | that's alotta rocks |
| 21:57.14 | cpenguin_home | no doubt |
| 21:57.44 | sorphin | ditto |
| 21:57.52 | cpenguin_home | http://www.weather.com/maps/maptype/satelliteusnational/westcentralussatellite_large.html |
| 21:58.12 | cpenguin_home | Apparently, the visible cloud satellite is taking a sabatical |
| 21:58.26 | sorphin | none shown here |
| 21:58.46 | sorphin | think i'll go peek out |
| 21:58.59 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: the forcast looks good for you |
| 22:01.14 | sorphin | maybe, but not right atm |
| 22:01.16 | sorphin | i just went out |
| 22:01.32 | sorphin | moons out, but still a haze in the sky, tho i can see a few stars |
| 22:01.49 | sorphin | too bright right around here tho, might try and find a field if i see anythign at all later |
| 22:16.53 | cpenguin_home | clearing up - now hopefully it will stay like this |
| 22:24.18 | cpenguin_home | sadly, I have nothing better to do than watch weather channel satellite updates...:( |
| 22:44.23 | andersee | cpenguin_home: bummer. |
| 22:44.34 | andersee | cpenguin_home: The SO sleeping? |
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| 23:15.30 | kergoth | hey sorphin |
| 23:24.21 | sorphin | lo |
| 23:33.55 | sorphin | kergoth: got any view yet? |
| 23:34.02 | kergoth | nada |
| 23:34.29 | jacques | i cant see a thing |
| 23:34.32 | sorphin | i might sleep for a couple hours and get up around 4ish |
| 23:34.34 | jacques | just looked |
| 23:34.45 | sorphin | when the "prime time here" is supposed to start |