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| 03:24.13 | fontenot | new blob not working |
| 03:24.21 | fontenot | keyboard hangs on reblob |
| 03:36.02 | fontenot | ah it's this bug: There's a bug in blob which prevents it from receiving keys when you press more than one key to stop autobooting |
| 03:36.11 | sorphin | yup |
| 03:36.21 | sorphin | i've only hit that bug once |
| 03:39.57 | fontenot | i was hitting it consistently because I was not hitting the space key at the right time, then I was hitting it again when the "1 second |
| 03:39.59 | fontenot | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:40.22 | fontenot | anyway it flashed and seems happy now |
| 03:41.00 | sorphin | i hit it ahead of time |
| 03:41.02 | sorphin | and it always worked |
| 03:42.13 | fontenot | which blob version? |
| 03:42.25 | sorphin | .6 |
| 03:42.39 | sorphin | haven't used anything newer |
| 03:42.42 | sorphin | if there is anything |
| 03:42.48 | fontenot | i never saw the bug in 2.0.4, but I see it consistently on the 0.6 blob - ids as 2.0.5pre-something |
| 03:43.10 | fontenot | hmm I wonder is there are newer versions about |
| 03:43.26 | fontenot | i wanted the xdownload functionality |
| 03:43.30 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:03.57 | fontenot | hmm, looks like it's trying to start X on boot, and it's failing with an ioctl error. also maybe related I get no login prompt on serial, tho I cal login on console |
| 04:04.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:07.09 | fontenot | hmm inittab is spawning tuxphone, which is constantly bailing |
| 04:07.48 | fontenot | minisys (part of matchbox wm I think) is causing an unhandled page fault on boot |
| 04:08.16 | fontenot | but I cant find where X is being started - it's not in inittab and cant find it in init.d |
| 04:08.42 | sorphin | sounds like you have a bad buildroot ;) |
| 04:09.07 | fontenot | ah interesting - now I can see other errors in the log (tuxphone was masking) /dev/ttySA0 not a character device |
| 04:09.15 | fontenot | it does seem rather messed up |
| 04:10.24 | sorphin | indeed |
| 04:10.27 | fontenot | whoah - about half of the devices in /dev are owned by my unix uid |
| 04:10.47 | fontenot | I dont remember having to buildroot as root... |
| 04:10.54 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:11.00 | sorphin | i dunno about "have" |
| 04:11.05 | sorphin | but i always do |
| 04:11.10 | sorphin | i build most things as root |
| 04:11.11 | fontenot | hmm |
| 04:11.13 | sorphin | easier that way |
| 04:11.26 | fontenot | i used to |
| 04:11.30 | fontenot | years ago |
| 04:11.44 | fontenot | until one build on an AIX3 machine unlinked /lib |
| 04:13.51 | fontenot | I already know this buildroot is trying to link something into /lib |
| 04:14.11 | sorphin | mine never did, but then, it was set for /usr/local, so... |
| 04:36.46 | fontenot | uh-oh - this will sound crazy but I downloaded a new ramdisk image and flashed it and nothing changed - the inittab I edited is still as I left it |
| 04:43.17 | LIM | did you flash it? |
| 04:43.31 | LIM | oh |
| 04:43.32 | LIM | nm |
| 04:44.12 | fontenot | this time I manually erased the ramdisk partition and then reset the tuxscreen |
| 04:44.21 | fontenot | xdownloading again |
| 04:44.44 | fontenot | i tried booting after I manually erased and it could not find anything so at least that seems to have worked |
| 04:52.09 | fontenot | aah much better |
| 04:52.26 | fontenot | the secret was to remove the image from the build dir and do make as root |
| 04:52.34 | fontenot | so that the devicetable was done as root |
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| 05:12.58 | fontenot | hi Morn |
| 05:13.30 | Morn | morning |
| 05:13.38 | Morn | seems like a storm is headed my way |
| 05:16.40 | fontenot | snow? |
| 05:17.30 | Morn | freezing rain |
| 05:17.33 | Morn | maybe turning to snow |
| 05:17.58 | fontenot | fun |
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| 11:41.13 | andin | hi all :) |
| 11:49.08 | CosmicPenguin | 'ello |
| 11:51.50 | andin | do you know what's up with the tuxscreen.net ? |
| 11:52.48 | andin | either dns went bananas, or somewhere there's a burnt hdd now :) |
| 11:54.05 | file | it's Surceforge :) |
| 11:54.07 | file | er Sourceforge |
| 11:54.36 | file | most of sf is down for maintenance... |
| 12:01.20 | andin | ..and of course no banner with any sorts of timelines till when... too bad:) |
| 12:03.52 | andin | the site status shows them as "expected to be up on 15th" :) I was accessing the site in links but then wanted to print a page...and ... ooops ;)) ok. then next time ;) |
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| 13:55.20 | CosmicPenguin | gothicfury? |
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| 13:58.54 | Russ | ya, I'm at my new apt |
| 13:59.17 | Russ | I'm currently in the process of attempting to setup a diskless router, but having difficulty getting the nfsroot working |
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| 14:02.17 | Russ | it mounts the nfs root, and then periodically attempts to read init |
| 14:02.27 | Russ | but seems to ignore the responses |
| 14:15.48 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 14:24.15 | Morn | Russ: can I ask you fstab question? |
| 14:25.01 | sorphin | if not you can ask me too, fstab's trivial |
| 14:25.15 | Morn | thanks this is critical |
| 14:25.28 | Morn | normally you mount /home and root owns it and users have dirs |
| 14:25.48 | Morn | I have one user (me) with my own partition and when I mount /home/julie it gets owned by root |
| 14:26.01 | Morn | how do I make my user own the root of the partition |
| 14:27.24 | sorphin | use uid= as one of the options |
| 14:27.39 | Morn | I tried that |
| 14:27.42 | Morn | it wouldn't mnt |
| 14:27.43 | sorphin | according to this nice long man page |
| 14:27.53 | Morn | I think the uid is just for fat partitions |
| 14:27.56 | sorphin | no |
| 14:28.06 | Morn | well mounting and THEN doing another chown on the dir seems to be a work around |
| 14:28.24 | sorphin | ext2 fs i'm guessing? |
| 14:28.28 | Morn | yes |
| 14:28.38 | sorphin | ah |
| 14:29.06 | sorphin | so you're wanting /home/julie to be owned by you? or /home ? |
| 14:29.13 | Morn | just /home/julie |
| 14:29.27 | sorphin | if it's the former, do you already have it chown'd to you before mounting? |
| 14:29.32 | Morn | yes |
| 14:29.40 | Morn | but after the mount it becomes root.root |
| 14:29.55 | Morn | see, this wasn't trivial |
| 14:29.57 | sorphin | try setting option user ? |
| 14:30.06 | Morn | user just means a user can mount it |
| 14:30.16 | Morn | but then ANY user could mount my home dir |
| 14:30.19 | Morn | bad! |
| 14:30.22 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:30.28 | Morn | considering there are 500 users on the box |
| 14:36.58 | Russ | ya Morn? |
| 14:37.39 | Russ | oh, you guys figured it out |
| 14:37.44 | Morn | not really |
| 14:37.53 | Morn | I just mounted it and then chown'd the dir |
| 14:38.04 | Morn | work around, but not good for the next reboot |
| 14:42.02 | Russ | just change your home dir to /home/morn/morn |
| 14:42.09 | Morn | it doesn't actually work |
| 14:42.11 | Morn | sigh |
| 14:46.46 | Morn | ok |
| 14:46.48 | Morn | I created /home2 |
| 14:46.52 | Morn | and put my home dir in there |
| 14:46.56 | Morn | and symlink'd it back |
| 14:49.41 | Morn | ack! |
| 14:49.48 | Morn | all my . files are gone! |
| 14:51.29 | sorphin | you sure it's just not the way you have it setup atm? |
| 14:51.47 | Morn | no, when I moved the dir I must have not moved the . files |
| 14:51.54 | Morn | shit |
| 14:52.06 | Morn | my .procmailrc file was huge |
| 14:52.19 | Morn | and my .muttrc was complicated |
| 14:52.57 | sorphin | oh |
| 14:53.51 | Morn | I had a drive failing |
| 14:54.04 | Morn | so I rushed around to put a new drive in and move dirs around |
| 14:54.30 | Russ | always do cp -a |
| 14:54.33 | Russ | not just cp |
| 14:57.09 | sorphin | Russ|werk: ditto |
| 14:58.10 | CosmicPenguin | a-a=0 |
| 14:58.14 | CosmicPenguin | didn't you know that? |
| 14:58.41 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:58.52 | sorphin | whatever jordan |
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| 15:24.54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you testing me? |
| 15:25.26 | sorphin | eh? |
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| 15:38.02 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 15:38.10 | Morn | re's |
| 15:38.16 | Morn | we blew a circuit here |
| 15:38.22 | Morn | and my room went dead |
| 15:39.33 | sorphin | doh |
| 15:43.03 | sorphin | Morn: went looking for the sony yesterday.. best buy don't carry shit anymore, and compuseless was out |
| 15:43.21 | Morn | Circuit City seems to have them |
| 15:44.26 | sorphin | hmm |
| 15:44.49 | sorphin | still been eyeing up the pioneer drive too since i'll prolly only use -R/RW |
| 15:46.38 | Morn | I use +RW and -R |
| 15:46.47 | Morn | which is what my DVD player uses best |
| 15:49.04 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:49.20 | sorphin | i assume just +rw for testing of the disc and then -R for final |
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| 16:05.47 | Morn | right |
| 16:06.03 | Morn | +RW has been very useful for learning menus |
| 16:06.43 | sorphin | k |
| 16:08.06 | prpplague | howdy Mo |
| 16:08.08 | prpplague | morn |
| 16:08.16 | prpplague | sorphin: lo |
| 16:08.19 | Morn | hi prpplague |
| 16:08.35 | sorphin | prpplague: yo |
| 16:08.42 | prpplague | Tangent: hey you alive? |
| 16:08.51 | sorphin | ibot: seen tangent |
| 16:08.51 | | i haven't seen 'tangent', sorphin |
| 16:09.04 | prpplague | ibot: seen Tangent |
| 16:09.04 | | i haven't seen 'tangent', prpplague |
| 16:09.11 | sorphin | see? :P |
| 16:09.23 | sorphin | now |
| 16:09.26 | sorphin | if you whois him ;) |
| 16:09.28 | sorphin | : idle : 0 hours 15 mins 27 secs (signon: Fri Nov 8 16:38:47 2002) |
| 16:09.47 | prpplague | sorphin: its because ibot is set for tolower |
| 16:10.09 | sorphin | either way |
| 16:10.14 | sorphin | he's 16 mins idle ;p |
| 16:12.44 | sorphin | Morn: heh, all the local CC's are out of stock of the sony |
| 16:13.15 | Morn | wow |
| 16:19.56 | prpplague | CC's ? |
| 16:20.23 | sorphin | Circuit Citys |
| 16:20.43 | sorphin | or Circus Shitty if you prefer |
| 16:21.21 | prpplague | lol, ya thats what was about to say, i would have recognized SC (Shitty City) |
| 16:21.37 | prpplague | or WB for Worst Buy |
| 16:21.43 | sorphin | i.e. their price (just like worst buy) on the HP 200i |
| 16:21.54 | sorphin | "was $449.99, now $399" |
| 16:21.56 | sorphin | riiiight |
| 16:22.02 | prpplague | i did the unthinkable, i bout a bunch of stuff at radio shit this weekend |
| 16:22.11 | sorphin | prpplague: careful, morn works there now ;) |
| 16:22.26 | file | everybody clear their schedule for a party in December, cause I'll be gone :) |
| 16:22.26 | prpplague | ha |
| 16:22.36 | prpplague | Morn: sorry to here that |
| 16:22.48 | sorphin | file: oh? canada throwing you out? |
| 16:23.01 | file | sorphin: nah my dad is making me go down with his family for Christmas... |
| 16:23.52 | file | sorphin: where there's only very basic cable (30 channels?!?!?) and a 56k connection on rural telephone lines (ha) |
| 16:23.55 | file | down there for a week... |
| 16:24.16 | sorphin | <simpsons bully voice> HA-HA </simpsons bully voice> |
| 16:24.56 | CosmicPenguin | file: I grew up in a place like that - |
| 16:25.07 | file | CosmicPenguin: bah |
| 16:25.20 | CosmicPenguin | file: I still remember hearing pops and whistles from the old copper long distance lines up unil I was about 16 years old |
| 16:25.33 | file | CosmicPenguin: uh huh |
| 16:25.53 | file | I... hate it down there |
| 16:26.24 | file | I've avoided the last few times going down... |
| 16:26.37 | file | but alas - I can't escape now |
| 16:26.42 | prpplague | ha i live in that place |
| 16:28.34 | sorphin | prpplague: with all your stray POS equip? |
| 16:29.21 | file | a modem connection rigged through two Furby's talking to eachother would probably be faster than what I'm expecting when I get down there |
| 16:29.43 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:29.54 | sorphin | maybe you should try that :P |
| 16:30.07 | file | ha |
| 16:30.53 | file | *sigh* I've got english and science homework to do |
| 16:31.08 | file | nothing like poetry analysis and balancing chemical equations |
| 16:33.16 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:58.58 | MonMotha | speaking of furbys....any good links on hacking them? |
| 16:59.55 | prpplague | MonMotha: i have a link at the office where someone turn a furby into a print server |
| 17:00.15 | prpplague | MonMotha: the ethernet connect is in the furby's ass |
| 17:00.39 | MonMotha | prpplague: doesn't speak to it over irda? |
| 17:00.40 | MonMotha | :) |
| 17:02.06 | sorphin | prpplague: speaking of print servers |
| 17:02.12 | sorphin | there are no screws on mine.. |
| 17:02.18 | sorphin | can't find how to get this sodding thing open |
| 17:02.38 | prpplague | sorphin: one word.... |
| 17:02.41 | prpplague | dremel |
| 17:02.47 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:02.57 | MonMotha | I still say a hammer is the way to go |
| 17:02.57 | sorphin | as i told MonDestructo |
| 17:03.02 | sorphin | i need to USE this thing |
| 17:03.14 | sorphin | it prolly uses clips |
| 17:03.44 | prpplague | sorphin: another tool..... |
| 17:03.48 | prpplague | electric-tape |
| 17:04.07 | sorphin | nah, duck/ducttape works better ;) |
| 17:04.12 | sorphin | it fixes anything ;) |
| 17:04.17 | prpplague | electric-tape...the universal "put back together" utility |
| 17:05.46 | sorphin | maybe i'll wait and see what you find in yours :P |
| 17:08.00 | fontenot | is there a newer tuxscreen blob than 0.6 about? |
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| 17:15.51 | ay | yo again all ;) I finally managed to get my tuxscreen up after quite some time of laziness ;) |
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| 17:24.52 | Morn | actually I just gave notice at Radio Shack |
| 17:24.52 | Morn | my last day is this friday |
| 17:24.54 | prpplague | Morn: good |
| 17:29.25 | prpplague | Morn: i get mad everytime i go into RS |
| 17:29.49 | Morn | you wouldn't if I helped you |
| 17:30.54 | prpplague | Morn: agreed, but i hate some moron who barely knows what a transistor is trying to tell me i need a npn instead of a pnp |
| 17:35.49 | Russ | prpplague: you ever do nfsroot? |
| 17:36.35 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya with the ltsp stuff |
| 17:37.00 | Russ | do you use an initrd, or mount it directly |
| 17:43.56 | prpplague | Russ: with a initrd |
| 17:44.11 | prpplague | Russ: which is pulled down via tftp |
| 17:44.28 | prpplague | Russ: but they have versions that are direct mounts |
| 17:44.54 | prpplague | Russ: you can look at the etherboot page |
| 17:45.16 | prpplague | Russ:http://www.etherboot.org/ |
| 17:45.21 | prpplague | Russ: http://www.etherboot.org/ |
| 17:45.51 | prpplague | Russ: they have howto's for lilo and grub, and it probably wouldn't be hard to do arm as well |
| 17:46.56 | Russ | I'm trying to do it off grub |
| 17:47.02 | Russ | into a debian chroot |
| 17:47.06 | Russ | it mounts it, mounts /dev |
| 17:47.28 | Russ | but then seems to not get the responses from the server for its read requests of /sbin/init |
| 17:49.03 | prpplague | so it actually mounts the nfsroot, but then has problems? |
| 17:51.26 | Russ | yes, it keeps reading the first 4096 bytes of /sbin/init |
| 17:52.11 | prpplague | hmm, sounds odd, what nfs server version are you running? |
| 17:52.21 | prpplague | v1 or v2? |
| 17:52.21 | Russ | dunno |
| 17:52.46 | Russ | its not my box, how do I check |
| 17:52.48 | prpplague | Russ: i have had problems with some of the nfs server types that are configured |
| 17:53.45 | prpplague | Russ: you can check the kernel config and also using the exportfs command |
| 17:54.22 | Russ | there is no exportfs command |
| 17:54.57 | prpplague | on the nfs server? |
| 17:56.37 | Russ | right |
| 17:56.56 | Russ | hmm...debian doesn't want to make a initrd image because it doesn't understand fstab |
| 17:57.18 | prpplague | Russ: i'm no nfs expert, but i'd suspect that something is not complete on your nfs install |
| 17:57.57 | Russ | the is a share on there that has been in use for some time |
| 17:58.17 | prpplague | did you add a new share? |
| 17:58.48 | Russ | yes |
| 17:59.26 | prpplague | and restarted the nfs daemon? |
| 17:59.42 | Russ | I didn't see anywhere to restart it |
| 17:59.52 | prpplague | ohh |
| 18:00.55 | Russ | oh crap, I think my box might have oopsend |
| 18:00.55 | prpplague | if you don't have a services function like redhat, you'll need to kill the daemon and restart them, or you can go to /etc/rc.d/init and find the nfs startup script and do #./nfs restart |
| 18:01.16 | Russ | there is no /etc/init.d/nfs |
| 18:01.58 | Russ | and ls is hanging on the box I'm on now |
| 18:02.06 | Russ | so....bbiaw |
| 18:02.15 | prpplague | hmm, i'm not familiar with debian, but if you have nfs installed properly there should be an item to start nfs somewhere |
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| 18:36.30 | prpplague | andersee: good morning |
| 18:36.42 | prpplague | andersee: whats on the plate for today? |
| 18:38.29 | andersee | prpplague: noda. Just hanging out with my family |
| 18:39.07 | prpplague | andersee: good to hear |
| 18:39.30 | kergoth | hey andersee |
| 18:41.00 | prpplague | andersee: silly guestion, will sysv style init every make it into bb? |
| 18:53.44 | andersee | whats the difference? Just mash all your initscrits into one file... But what has to change in busybox? |
| 18:57.39 | prpplague | andersee: mainly the support of different run levels |
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| 18:58.21 | prpplague | andersee: i could move my sysv stuff over to bb init, and really thats on the agenda, but i was just curious |
| 19:03.54 | fontenot | is there a newer tuxscreen blob than 0.6 about? |
| 19:04.01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hey |
| 19:04.12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: why would you want runlevels, if I so may ask? |
| 19:05.04 | fontenot | 0.6 blob has some annoying bugs |
| 19:06.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: my thin client uses them, 1 initialization , 2 setup, 3 serial terminal, 4 telnet/ssh terminal , 5 x windows client |
| 19:07.15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yuck |
| 19:07.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but obviously nessesary |
| 19:07.38 | CosmicPenguin | How do you select the runlevel that you want? |
| 19:07.53 | CosmicPenguin | Or more importantly, how does your average secretary select the runlevel that she needs? |
| 19:08.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the default run level is 1 if during the initialization the end user presses s for setup then run level 2 is entered else the runlevel in the stored config file is entered |
| 19:09.17 | CosmicPenguin | Wow |
| 19:09.44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: in run level 2 a setup program lets them configure the device, if serial mode is selected the serial attributes are also asked for, or if for run level 4 or 5 then ip settings |
| 19:09.57 | CosmicPenguin | I see |
| 19:10.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i have an early version of the rootfs available for dl if you are interested |
| 19:10.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this way we can sell one thin client as a replacement for wyse terminals, spotline/telnet terminals, and x-terminal clients |
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| 19:52.20 | fontenot | hi Russ what's the latest recommended blob? |
| 19:52.32 | fontenot | I'm hitting a couple of bugs in 0.6 blob |
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| 20:20.01 | Russ | cvs |
| 20:20.40 | fontenot | Russ: recommended xcompiler? |
| 20:20.58 | Russ | 2.95.[34] |
| 20:21.19 | fontenot | ok thanks |
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