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| 08:30.17 | CosmicPenguin | My e-mail decided to take a break last night... :( |
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| 09:17.24 | CosmicPenguin | bbiab - installing a new drive |
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| 10:03.24 | sorphin | prpplague: mornin bitch |
| 10:05.04 | prpplague | sorphin: morning worldcom slut |
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| 10:09.01 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i feel like it |
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| 10:54.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey |
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| 11:05.00 | Russ|werk | hey prpplague |
| 11:05.04 | Russ|werk | did you find those parts? |
| 11:05.52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hello |
| 11:06.08 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya |
| 11:06.31 | Russ|werk | are you familiar with ci2t.com ? |
| 11:06.42 | Russ|werk | er |
| 11:07.14 | Russ|werk | now I went and forgot the url |
| 11:07.39 | prpplague | no |
| 11:08.12 | Russ|werk | c2it.com |
| 11:09.16 | prpplague | whats it for? |
| 11:09.59 | prpplague | is it suppose to be a citibank web page? |
| 11:11.08 | Russ|werk | its a paypal alternative |
| 11:16.01 | prpplague | Russ|werk: are you implying you want to pay me for this stuff? |
| 11:16.07 | Russ|werk | course |
| 11:16.27 | prpplague | Russ|werk: naw, don't bother |
| 11:16.39 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i'll get it shipped monday if thats ok |
| 11:17.02 | Russ|werk | the stuff is worth some money, and you are paying for shipping |
| 11:18.03 | prpplague | Russ|werk: don't worry i'll take care of it |
| 11:18.14 | Russ|werk | do you still have my 4121 address? |
| 11:19.35 | prpplague | Russ|werk: appears i've del'd that email |
| 11:19.41 | prpplague | Russ|werk: drop me another |
| 11:19.44 | prpplague | ibot: prpplague |
| 11:19.44 | | rumour has it, prpplague is mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
| 11:19.57 | Russ|werk | do you use evo? |
| 11:20.35 | prpplague | Russ|werk: naw, pine-n-mozilla |
| 11:29.02 | sorphin | wtf is evo? |
| 11:30.26 | Russ|werk | evolution |
| 11:30.33 | sorphin | which is.... |
| 11:30.34 | Russ|werk | has support for easily sending contacts |
| 11:30.39 | Russ|werk | an email client... |
| 11:30.47 | Russ|werk | sorphin: do you live in a cave? |
| 11:30.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 11:30.59 | sorphin | no, i just don't watch every sw release that comes out :P |
| 11:31.33 | Russ|werk | I live having the calender and all the pointy clickly |
| 11:31.42 | Russ|werk | er, clicky |
| 11:31.55 | sorphin | s/live/love/ ? |
| 11:32.16 | sorphin | Russ|werk: in other words, you like pseudo outlook |
| 11:32.16 | Russ|werk | that too |
| 11:32.37 | Russ|werk | I don't think I'd like outlook...I don't think it has the same vfolder support |
| 11:34.27 | Russ|werk | I'm sure you have killer script-fu |
| 11:38.59 | sorphin | true |
| 11:42.39 | prpplague | hmm, let the fun begin, just got a fujitsu scanner in, 48ppm with 100 page sheet feeder |
| 11:42.47 | prpplague | anyone want to guess the cost? |
| 11:43.24 | sorphin | free? |
| 11:44.06 | prpplague | <hertz> no exactly! </hertz> |
| 11:44.55 | sorphin | $.50 ? |
| 11:45.48 | prpplague | sorphin: x10000 |
| 11:48.17 | sorphin | $5k ? |
| 11:48.19 | Russ|werk | you could really go scan crazy with that |
| 11:58.44 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 12:02.53 | CosmicPenguin | I hope you have some decent OCR software |
| 12:03.10 | CosmicPenguin | otherwise, thats the most expensive p0rn scanner in the world |
| 12:04.33 | Russ|werk | that assumes he has 100's of pages of pr0n |
| 12:07.05 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: thats why he got a camera at the same time |
| 12:07.37 | Russ|werk | wouldn't a digital camera have been cheaper? |
| 12:09.53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i've been playing with clara, that seems to do very nice |
| 12:22.29 | CosmicPenguin | I have 259 .RPM packages on my harddrive - no wonder I have no room |
| 12:33.17 | Russ|werk | I have 1409 .deb packages on my drive |
| 12:41.01 | CosmicPenguin | And only 109 of them are installed / up-to-date |
| 12:41.07 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a bunch of dead weight |
| 12:45.32 | Russ|werk | thats why I'm going to start running apt-proxy-v2 on my new network and not have clients cache anything |
| 12:45.47 | Russ|werk | it'll purge stuff older than n revisions |
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| 13:50.51 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 13:53.24 | Morn | re's |
| 13:53.29 | sorphin | sup? |
| 13:53.49 | Morn | just got my new phone line |
| 13:53.53 | Morn | trying to test it |
| 13:58.39 | sorphin | nod |
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| 14:12.20 | Russ|werk | ew |
| 14:17.08 | CosmicPenguin | damn telcos..... |
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| 18:11.39 | MonMotha | hum, openssh in buildroot seems broken |
| 18:12.32 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:12.44 | andersee | MonMotha: openssh is a pain in the butt to cross-configure.... |
| 18:13.21 | MonMotha | andersee: this I can believe |
| 18:13.40 | andersee | MonMotha: I can build it for x86. If I have a /lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 symlink pinting to a working x86 version of uClibc... |
| 18:15.34 | MonMotha | andersee: well, it fails on the configure |
| 18:15.47 | MonMotha | I haven't even looked into the cause yet, was wondering if it was known |
| 18:16.11 | sorphin | andersee: it is? |
| 18:16.41 | andersee | MonMotha: Exactly. And exactly for the reason I just mentioned. You don't have a /lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 symlink pointing to a working x86 version of uClibc... The configure script it horribly broken for cross-configuration |
| 18:17.01 | MonMotha | andersee: ah, I see what you're saying |
| 18:17.18 | andersee | s/ script it/ script is/ |
| 18:18.13 | MonMotha | I thought you were talking about linking |
| 18:18.25 | MonMotha | as in at the end of build, not during configure |
| 18:19.19 | andersee | Basically, openssh tries to use your target compiler to run target stuff on your host system. Unsurprisingly, this fails when both cross-configuring _and |
| 18:19.19 | Morn | too late |
| 18:19.29 | andersee | Basically, openssh tries to use your target compiler to run target stuff on your host system. Unsurprisingly, this fails when both cross-configuring _and_ cross-compiling |
| 18:19.31 | sorphin | Morn: nope, i found it |
| 18:20.02 | sorphin | andersee: doesn't seem to stop others from cross compiling ;) |
| 18:20.33 | Morn | with tivo can you get the video OFF the unit? |
| 18:20.41 | Morn | to say burn to DVD? |
| 18:21.01 | sorphin | if you have the necessary tools, yes |
| 18:21.47 | Morn | such as? |
| 18:22.34 | sorphin | um.. stuff to read the video from mfs, convert it to mpeg |
| 18:22.43 | Morn | mfs? |
| 18:22.48 | Morn | what the heck is that? |
| 18:22.58 | sorphin | their filesystem that the video, etc resides on :P |
| 18:23.04 | sorphin | what'd you think it was on? ext2? |
| 18:23.32 | sorphin | tivone 4876 1 |
| 18:23.33 | sorphin | 8390tridge 7328 0 [tivone] |
| 18:23.37 | sorphin | ignore that |
| 18:23.50 | sorphin | wrong chan |
| 18:23.55 | Morn | sure! |
| 18:23.59 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:24.01 | sorphin | no |
| 18:24.09 | Morn | is there a tivo channel? |
| 18:24.26 | sorphin | the video is on a filesystem w/ a db structure, and other "goodies" |
| 18:24.27 | sorphin | yes |
| 18:24.53 | Morn | may I join? and be enlightened? |
| 18:24.58 | sorphin | however talk about extraction could get you booted ;) |
| 18:25.03 | Morn | ack! |
| 18:25.15 | Morn | that's my main intrest in the unit |
| 18:25.23 | Morn | to be able to back up video I record |
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| 18:25.46 | sorphin | the current tool i'm working w/ is very non public, i'm lucky to even have it |
| 18:26.14 | Morn | I'm starting to think my best bet is to get a hardware encoding capture board and write a program to schedule programs to record |
| 18:26.24 | Morn | and thumb my nose at the rest of the world |
| 18:26.40 | sorphin | Morn: or use show shifter ;) |
| 18:26.43 | sorphin | file: shaddup |
| 18:26.58 | Morn | I don't like the showshifter interface |
| 18:27.04 | Morn | I use Snapstream |
| 18:27.08 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:27.16 | Morn | but neither of them support hardware encoding |
| 18:29.10 | sorphin | Morn: well the stuff to get the video FROM mfs, is public, just the current program i'm using, takes that video and makes it a perfect mpeg stream (removes all the tivo stuff).. all the other stuff out there, still lacks a bit, but works, you have to extract, split (demux), clean up, remux, or slight variations on that |
| 18:29.35 | Morn | ah |
| 18:29.45 | Morn | I wonder if the replay is any easier to use? |
| 18:29.54 | sorphin | Morn: hit up www.dealdatabase.com |
| 18:29.56 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:30.21 | sorphin | the replay can't even extract video :P (least older replay models can't), no clue about new stuff |
| 18:30.54 | sorphin | there is no turnkey method ;) won't ever be one, you'll always have to do some work |
| 18:33.48 | MonMotha | ah, got it fixed |
| 18:34.03 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:36.38 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:52.19 | Morn | sorphin: I'm trying to get starwars ep2 to fit on one dvd |
| 18:52.50 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:52.57 | sorphin | ripped out all the extras? |
| 18:53.12 | Morn | yeah, but even so it's too long |
| 18:53.15 | Morn | so I re-encoded it |
| 18:53.29 | Morn | dropped it from 6Mb/s to 4Mb/s |
| 18:53.59 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:54.48 | MonMotha | the movie itself is more than one DVD? |
| 18:55.00 | Morn | no, they used a dual layer dvd to do it |
| 18:55.01 | Morn | I can't |
| 18:55.07 | MonMotha | oh, I see |
| 18:55.10 | Morn | it's 2 hours and 22 minutes |
| 18:55.16 | MonMotha | yeah, long movie |
| 18:55.24 | MonMotha | they had to cut out like 20min of stuff to get it to fit on an IMAX reel |
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| 18:56.10 | sorphin | only care about #3 |
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| 18:57.47 | MonMotha | BZFlag: I got my kernel load from jffs2 problem fixed. Dunno what it was, but making a new image from scratch fixed it |
| 18:57.48 | MonMotha | it was the image itself, not as flashed on the unit |
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| 19:42.38 | BZFlag | MonMotha: I know there are bugs in mkjffs2 I've not gotten around to tracking them down though. |
| 19:43.08 | MonMotha | BZFlag: that could be a possibility |
| 19:44.07 | MonMotha | unfortunately it looks like I lost that specific image in a HDD crash |
| 19:44.10 | MonMotha | should ahve downloaded it from my tux |
| 19:46.03 | BZFlag | np. I'm sure I could get it to bomb if I tried. ;-) |
| 19:46.44 | MonMotha | heh |
| 19:47.23 | cpenguin_home | So, say I have an Perl web interface that uses a module, but I'm not on a virtual machine, so I don't have rights to install it |
| 19:47.30 | cpenguin_home | Whats the best way to sneak that sucker in? |
| 19:48.01 | MonMotha | do you have a shell? |
| 19:49.08 | cpenguin_home | yep |
| 19:50.06 | MonMotha | run your own little apache on a high port and suck the content off your vhost from that :) |
| 19:50.21 | MonMotha | now, the admin may not like that, but it's possible :) |
| 19:52.01 | cpenguin_home | uhhh.... |
| 19:52.08 | cpenguin_home | thats probably not the right thing to do |
| 19:52.14 | MonMotha | no, but it would work :) |
| 19:52.19 | cpenguin_home | well yeah |
| 19:52.29 | MonMotha | really, if you don't have the access to load an apache module, you don't have the access to load an apache module...ask the admin |
| 19:53.39 | cpenguin_home | Well, I guess I could stick it in my home directory and mess with the INC path |
| 19:54.46 | cpenguin_home | or I could technically stick it in . |
| 19:54.48 | cpenguin_home | but that would prolly be bad |
| 19:55.33 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hows the pixil stuff going? |
| 19:56.15 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: badly |
| 19:56.24 | prpplague | doh |
| 19:57.01 | cpenguin_home | Dammit - I should have known better than this.... |
| 19:57.21 | prpplague | lol |
| 19:57.36 | cpenguin_home | I went with a friend for hosting, and he promised me that he would give me a virtual machine, but after I gave him my check, he turned out not to know jack shit |
| 19:57.55 | cpenguin_home | So here I am trying to stick a round peg in a square hole |
| 19:58.27 | prpplague | bummer |
| 20:00.46 | sorphin | that'd work too ;) |
| 20:01.35 | MonMotha | ibot lart cpenguin_home's webserver admin |
| 20:03.36 | cpenguin_home | thanks, ibot! |
| 20:23.27 | cpenguin_home | where did he go? |
| 20:38.02 | cpenguin_home | angry e-mail sent |
| 20:38.04 | cpenguin_home | I feel better |
| 20:41.09 | cpenguin_home | hmmm... we may be looking at the last Comdex |
| 20:44.56 | sorphin | why? |
| 20:51.21 | cpenguin_home | ibot: slashdot |
| 20:51.38 | cpenguin_home | cause /. said so, thats why |
| 20:54.19 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:54.25 | sorphin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.56 | andersee | cpenguin_home: evening |
| 21:03.10 | sorphin | eek! it's andersee! |
| 21:03.34 | sorphin | andersee: a better busybox^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hmousetrap? |
| 21:05.08 | andersee | I've built a uClibc only development system. gcc, binutils, make, coreutils, etc. All linked vs uClibc. |
| 21:05.52 | sorphin | that must mean you fixed the merge? ;) |
| 21:06.24 | andersee | Oh that. Yeah, I know what the deal is. I'll update buildroot-tux this evening. |
| 21:06.52 | andersee | sorphin: btw, I think I'll switch buildroot to busybox 0.61.x as well. |
| 21:07.27 | sorphin | andersee: oh.. so it was just buildroot that had a bad merge, but uclibc .16 was ok |
| 21:11.08 | andersee | sorphin: uclibc 0.9.16 or arm has a bug in crt0 where I put _fini in the wrong register (because I was an idiot) |
| 21:12.42 | cpenguin_home | andersee: good job - when will the ISOs be available? :) |
| 21:14.31 | andersee | cpenguin_home: hehe |
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| 21:58.01 | jacques | andersee: any updated toolchains yet? |
| 22:02.25 | andersee | jacques: I have gcc 3.2 done |
| 22:02.47 | andersee | jacques: gcc 2.95 will be done tonight, and I'll release them |
| 22:04.08 | andersee | jacques: I also plan to update buildroot-tux tonight |
| 22:04.55 | jacques | andersee: excellente |
| 22:05.25 | MonMotha | andersee: hum, just after I got it working too :) |
| 22:06.49 | andersee | :) |
| 22:07.00 | jacques | heh |
| 22:11.47 | MonMotha | hey, I've got PPP up and running and I'm attempting to remote display over to it's X server |
| 22:11.54 | MonMotha | of course, I'm finding that a bit difficult at 115.2kbps |
| 22:12.36 | jacques | arg |
| 22:12.47 | jacques | x is terrible on small pipes |
| 22:13.27 | jacques | it's not optimized for bandwidth at all |
| 22:14.01 | MonMotha | yeah, I've noticed |
| 22:14.01 | MonMotha | heck, it doesn't like my 10Mbit line |
| 22:14.06 | MonMotha | I've debated loading up tightVNC |
| 22:14.08 | jacques | i had an idea the other day to try to get the wifi mesh router stuff working on the tuxscreen |
| 22:14.29 | MonMotha | jacques: I still see great possiblity in the IP Telephony areas |
| 22:14.35 | MonMotha | need to get a NIC for it first tho |
| 22:14.57 | jacques | my netgears NICs work great |
| 22:15.01 | jacques | netgear |
| 22:15.36 | jacques | dont remember exact model number :-\ |
| 22:16.42 | MonMotha | FA411? |
| 22:16.45 | jacques | http://www.netgear.com/products/prod_details.asp?prodID=95&view= |
| 22:16.49 | MonMotha | 10/100 3.3V PCMCIA |
| 22:16.54 | jacques | yeah those work great |
| 22:16.59 | MonMotha | that's what I'll get then :) |
| 22:17.01 | jacques | only problem is you cant put 2 in at once |
| 22:17.14 | jacques | since they have that big plastic bit |
| 22:17.21 | MonMotha | you can still fit other PCMCIA cards in, that don't stick out |
| 22:17.30 | MonMotha | like HDDs, CF cards in sleds, etc |
| 22:17.31 | MonMotha | right? |
| 22:17.32 | jacques | correct |
| 22:17.54 | jacques | even if they stick out you can put them in the bottom slot |
| 22:17.58 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 22:18.10 | MonMotha | quite nice actually |
| 22:18.15 | jacques | yep |
| 22:18.22 | jacques | i need to start playing with my tuxes again |
| 22:18.31 | jacques | try to get recent cvs xfree working |
| 22:18.39 | MonMotha | how many you have jacques? |
| 22:19.53 | jacques | MonMotha: 4 |
| 22:20.04 | jacques | but one is in lots of tiny pieces right now |
| 22:20.11 | MonMotha | heh |
| 22:20.13 | jacques | I was trying to fit it into a metal case |
| 22:20.37 | MonMotha | if anyone does want to sell one, I have someone who's willing to pay whatever you paid for it (with shipping) + $10 + shipping to them |
| 22:20.46 | MonMotha | so net $10 and get your money back if you didn't want it anymoer |
| 22:20.59 | MonMotha | unlikely, but you never know :) |
| 22:21.09 | jacques | personally I keep thinking up new potential uses for them |
| 22:21.25 | jacques | so I am unwilling to part with any yet |
| 22:21.27 | MonMotha | as do I |
| 22:21.41 | MonMotha | the problem is that I only have one, so I can't start tearing it apart on a whim |
| 22:21.58 | MonMotha | doesn't mean I don't mod it, just don't start tearing it out of it's casing :) |
| 22:22.13 | jacques | yeah 2 is s omuch better than 1 |
| 22:22.16 | MonMotha | I have two serial ports and shanip2 on mine |
| 22:22.29 | jacques | ooh nice I keep meaning to do the shanip mod |
| 22:22.33 | jacques | i want sound |
| 22:22.52 | MonMotha | and should I ever need to solder on the header for JTAG, I'm gunna bring that to a DB-15 connector or something so I won't have to take it apart :) |
| 22:22.53 | jacques | did you build a pcb or wire-wrap? |
| 22:23.03 | MonMotha | I built it on a proto board |
| 22:23.11 | MonMotha | those premade PCBs with standard traces |
| 22:23.17 | MonMotha | I managed to get it pretty small actually |
| 22:23.22 | jacques | nice |
| 22:23.44 | MonMotha | it's not much bigger than the PCB Tangent used to do the second serial port and shanip2, but I didn't use a custom PCB |
| 22:23.53 | jacques | hmm looks like tux has enough RAM to run the mesh stuff - now to see if I think the proc can handle it |
| 22:23.55 | MonMotha | fits nicely under the handset |
| 22:24.16 | andersee | Anybody see this: http://www.linuxandmain.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=286 |
| 22:24.17 | MonMotha | still trying to think of something to do with the parallel interface |
| 22:25.16 | MonMotha | BZFlag said to expect big news |
| 22:25.28 | MonMotha | so at least there's reason to expect such a thing |
| 22:26.10 | jacques | whoah |
| 22:28.24 | andersee | I suspect Metrowerks won't be wanting an extra CTO... |
| 22:28.50 | andersee | So perhaps Tim will be looking for a job... |
| 22:29.16 | jacques | maybe he'll have lots of spare time to do open source development :-D |
| 22:29.34 | MonMotha | having capital helps for that too... |
| 22:29.42 | jacques | wow xine has really improved since I last looked at it |
| 22:30.55 | jacques | remember when the linux flash plugin used to have a stop selection in the menu? |
| 22:30.57 | jacques | no more |
| 22:32.25 | MonMotha | that would allow you to stop the distracting animation on those annoying ads! |
| 22:33.27 | jacques | exactly |
| 22:33.42 | jacques | i have 4-5 galone windows open with 4-10 tabs each |
| 22:33.53 | jacques | all that CPU usage adds up |
| 22:35.25 | *** part/#tuxscreen GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130) |
| 22:38.11 | jacques | :-) |
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| 22:41.09 | kergoth | hey Russ, jacques, BZFlag |
| 22:41.37 | Russ | andersee: you around? |
| 22:42.28 | jacques | hi kergoth |
| 22:42.58 | andersee | Russ: yup |
| 22:43.34 | Russ | andersee: why did you add udhcpc to buildroot? |
| 22:43.38 | Russ | its in busybox cvs |
| 22:50.28 | jacques | We're Sorry. |
| 22:50.29 | jacques | The SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance. |
| 22:50.29 | jacques | We will be back shortly |
| 22:50.42 | jacques | it has been saying that for > 5 hours |
| 22:50.46 | jacques | maybe longer |
| 23:28.03 | andersee | Russ: I added it to buildroot since I havn't updated buildroot to use busybox devel |
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