| 00:02:37 | CosmicPenguin | Time head home write perl go crazy watch tv then something something |
| 00:02:54 | file[laptop] | CosmicPenguin: hack toaster? |
| 00:03:21 | CosmicPenguin | sure, why not |
| 00:03:27 | file[laptop] | cheers |
| 00:03:34 | file[laptop] | create memory cards out of toast! |
| 00:03:44 | file[laptop] | burnt is 0, not burnt is 1! |
| 00:03:45 | sorphin | thinks file musta been smoking something today |
| 00:04:13 | file[laptop] | sorphin: Djembe. |
| 00:04:22 | CosmicPenguin | thinks that its almost time to start learning PHP |
| 00:04:40 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
| 00:04:48 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, later folks - I'll see you from home |
| 00:04:49 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 23:29:33) |
| 03:14:21 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: you around? |
| 03:15:26 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Do you agree with the updated ipcalc applet from Stephan Linz? |
| 06:27:35 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: hows life? |
| 06:39:45 | prpplague | oops i missed cp |
| 06:39:53 | prpplague | andersee: working hard today |
| 06:39:54 | prpplague | ? |
| 06:53:23 | andersee | prh: yup |
| 06:53:42 | andersee | err |
| 06:54:38 | sorphin | too slow |
| 06:58:33 | andersee | seems so |
| 07:20:11 | Russ | heh |
| 07:20:14 | Russ | someone has a bunch of embedded boxes running udhcp |
| 07:20:31 | Russ | and when they all start up at the same time, they all use the same xid because I use time(0) for a seed |
| 07:21:03 | Russ | which do you think is a better solution, use /dev/urandom for a seed and have /etc/init.d/urandom seed it with something (like the mac address) |
| 07:21:13 | Russ | or use time(0) + mac address for a seed |
| 07:56:40 | andersee | hehe |
| 07:56:42 | andersee | Hmm |
| 07:57:56 | andersee | How about some junk from /dev/urandom + mac address |
| 08:05:42 | Russ | I'm thinking, use /dev/urandom |
| 08:06:02 | Russ | and let people write a /etc/init.d/urandom script |
| 08:06:17 | Russ | if there system has any entropy, they won't need one |
| 08:08:22 | andersee | k |
| 08:08:25 | andersee | That works |
| 08:08:55 | Russ | I just don't know how well ifconfig eth0 > /dev/urandom works |
| 08:09:34 | andersee | Linux gathers entropy from the network, so if they are on a network (reasonable if they are using udhcp) they should have some entropy... |
| 08:10:40 | Russ | udhcp is the first thing that runs... |
| 08:10:52 | Russ | and if all the boxes are on the same network, and they all start at the same time |
| 08:11:00 | Russ | they'll be getting the same stuff |
| 08:11:03 | andersee | Hmm |
| 08:14:37 | Russ | the mac address makes sense to use |
| 08:15:38 | Russ | but that seems like it should be the choice of whoever implements the system |
| 08:17:22 | andersee | I find that having a sane default generally saves a lot of bother/questions later on... |
| 08:17:42 | andersee | I think it will always be sane to mix in the mac addr |
| 08:18:15 | Russ | on 99.9% of systems, /dev/urandom will be a sane default |
| 08:18:32 | Russ | hmm.. |
| 08:18:48 | Russ | I suppose it wouldn't hurt to add the mac address to /dev/urandom |
| 08:19:32 | Russ | anyway, time to sleep |
| 08:20:38 | andersee | night |
| 15:06:31 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
| 15:06:35 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 15:06:35 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 15:08:43 | kergoth`zzz | hey |
| 15:11:39 | sorphin | waves all around |
| 16:48:59 | sorphin | Morn: allo jules |
| 16:50:02 | Morn | hi |
| 16:51:12 | sorphin | sup? |
| 17:34:15 | CosmicPenguin | wb andersee |
| 17:34:42 | CosmicPenguin | and Russ |
| 17:34:57 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: howdy |
| 17:35:13 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: BTW, do you agree with the updated ipcalc applet from Stephan Linz? |
| 17:35:32 | CosmicPenguin | I saw your conversation about udhcp and the random problem on the logs - thats a pretty good solution that you came up with |
| 17:35:54 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: yep... it seems to do everything that we want in a small amount of space. Assuming of course, that our math is right. |
| 17:36:28 | CosmicPenguin | parses his previous sentence |
| 17:37:03 | CosmicPenguin | When I said on the logs, I mean I saw the conversation on the IRC logs |
| 17:38:51 | CosmicPenguin | For all those who know him, our good friend signal11 (Mark Leher) is today the proud father of a new baby boy |
| 17:39:19 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: cool |
| 17:41:22 | sorphin | cool |
| 17:41:30 | sorphin | pass on congrats to him for me |
| 17:59:09 | CosmicPenguin | Greg: Jordan, give me a copy of the tarball |
| 17:59:10 | CosmicPenguin | Jordan: It doesn't compile |
| 17:59:13 | CosmicPenguin | Greg: Thats ok, I just want to see the code |
| 17:59:21 | CosmicPenguin | Greg (two days later): Why doesn't this code compile? |
| 17:59:27 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:03:40 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, so has anyone else built 2.5.44 with cardbus support? |
| 18:03:53 | sorphin | haven't touched any 2.5.xx kenrel |
| 18:03:56 | sorphin | kernel |
| 18:37:25 | sorphin | lo tim |
| 18:37:52 | kergoth | hey tim |
| 18:42:03 | sorphin | kergoth: sup digiboy |
| 18:42:13 | kergoth | nada, pretending to work |
| 18:42:14 | kergoth | you? |
| 18:42:18 | sorphin | same |
| 18:42:37 | sorphin | just had a friend send me CrossoverOffice |
| 18:42:44 | kergoth | any good? |
| 18:43:03 | sorphin | i'll have to let you know.. tis at home on one of my boxen |
| 18:43:24 | kergoth | ah gotcha |
| 18:43:26 | sorphin | if it'll run visio 2002 ok, then it does what i need :P |
| 18:43:36 | sorphin | and maybe protel dxp |
| 18:44:27 | sorphin | no more cheap ceivas on ebay.. they're all days out and people are stupid and bid that far out and shove the price up.. (and i missed that one for $89.99 buy it now).. |
| 18:46:46 | sorphin | and it seems compuseless has the UPS just below mine on sale atm.. (i missed it when mine was, cuz i need another one) |
| 18:46:53 | sorphin | 900VA isn't enough |
| 18:49:39 | CosmicPenguin | For some fun reason, 2.5.44 doesn't want to show me a framebuffer console |
| 18:49:57 | CosmicPenguin | Thats just ducky |
| 18:50:12 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:50:30 | sorphin | what i hated is when my kernel forced the framebuffer |
| 18:50:52 | LIM | 2.5 is smurfed |
| 18:52:55 | sorphin | that's why i don't use "test kernels".. i need a stablish kernel since the servers don't need to be bounced often |
| 18:57:27 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: don't you like to just play around sometimes? |
| 18:57:37 | CosmicPenguin | Its not like I'm sticking this on anything critical... I'm bored |
| 18:58:18 | sorphin | if there's something in it i'd wanna play around with, sure |
| 18:58:18 | sorphin | but from what i've read.. most of the 2.5/2.6 crap.. i won't even use |
| 18:58:54 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, well.... thats what you get from getting most of your news from MSN... :P |
| 19:46:22 | CosmicPenguin | Hey guys, quit jumping around... :) |
| 19:47:27 | file[laptop] | hehe |
| 22:29:00 | CosmicPenguin | where is prpplague when you really need him? |
| 22:31:47 | LIM | looking at pr0n... |
| 22:32:39 | sorphin | looking at pr0n on a plane, or a train, or a boat, or in a car |
| 22:33:26 | LIM | green star trek women pr0n |
| 23:17:38 | CosmicPenguin | downloads the OS/360 operating system and source code |