| 00:26:44 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 00:44:13 | MonMotha | hello |
| 01:04:43 | MonMotha | I'm curious if any attempt has ever been made at doing something with USB? |
| 01:05:50 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:06:03 | MonMotha | it's down on that J602 connector |
| 01:06:17 | sorphin | ironic you mention USB, i'm hacking on the kernel to get my series 2 tivo running a newer kernel so i can use this external USB drive better ;) |
| 01:06:25 | MonMotha | interesting |
| 01:06:41 | sorphin | indeed |
| 01:06:43 | sorphin | time consuming |
| 01:06:46 | MonMotha | I was thinking that perhaps USB ethernet (ala ipaq) might be useful |
| 01:06:58 | MonMotha | since then one woudln't need a PCMCIA ethernet card |
| 01:07:43 | MonMotha | or even just some sort of serial emulaton that one could run PPP over |
| 01:08:12 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:10:22 | MonMotha | do you happen to know if the stock kernel even knows what USB is? |
| 01:12:27 | sorphin | eh? |
| 01:12:43 | sorphin | um.. there's quite a bit of usb support in the kernel dude |
| 01:13:50 | MonMotha | I'm only familiar with USB host on x86 |
| 01:14:07 | MonMotha | I have no idea how the kernel handles the slave functionality on the SA1100 |
| 01:14:15 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:14:21 | sorphin | you asked: <MonMotha> do you happen to know if the stock kernel even knows what USB is? |
| 01:14:37 | sorphin | you didn't say WHAT stock kernel :P |
| 01:14:39 | legodude | how does one test bootp? |
| 01:14:44 | MonMotha | sorphin: booo |
| 01:14:46 | MonMotha | you know what I meant |
| 01:14:54 | sorphin | MonMotha: umm |
| 01:15:01 | sorphin | if i did, i wouldn't have had to point it out |
| 01:15:06 | sorphin | isn't working on tux shit |
| 01:15:12 | sorphin | and haven't for a long time |
| 01:15:21 | sorphin | and no immediate plans to mess w/ the tuxes |
| 01:16:07 | MonMotha | I see :) |
| 01:16:42 | sorphin | is busy tivo-ifying 2.4.19 |
| 02:35:22 | MonMotha | if I upload my new blob then use "reblob", that should allow me to test my new bootloader without changing what's in flash, right? |
| 02:44:03 | sorphin | yes |
| 02:50:27 | sorphin | -:- prpplague is now known as ThePOSMaster(bater) |
| 02:51:29 | prpplague | sorphin: alright file |
| 02:52:10 | sorphin | he's been useful/helpful lately, so that's a compliment atm *grin* |
| 02:54:01 | sorphin | what's up? |
| 02:54:11 | prpplague | ssdd |
| 02:54:45 | prpplague | sorphin: i'm at a hotel in dallas, my flight leaves early out of dfw |
| 02:55:42 | sorphin | to barbados? |
| 02:56:07 | prpplague | ya |
| 02:56:37 | sorphin | checked weather? ;) |
| 03:08:59 | legodude | settin up more servers? |
| 03:09:29 | sorphin | he's fixing shit i think (as usual) |
| 03:10:32 | legodude | ahso |
| 03:10:38 | legodude | who you work for prpplague? |
| 03:10:52 | legodude | sorphin: I'm about ready to throw the octane out the damn window |
| 03:14:59 | sorphin | legodude: throw it here, i'll take it, you can have my easy to use I2 ;) |
| 03:19:03 | sorphin | tries to figure why i get patch: **** malformed patch at line.... |
| 03:31:19 | prpplague | legodude: www.abcsinc.com |
| 03:31:45 | legodude | oh |
| 03:31:51 | legodude | can you get me cheap wood? :P |
| 03:32:05 | legodude | and why does a lumber business need offshore servers? |
| 03:32:55 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:33:06 | prpplague | legodude: we aren't lumber, we sell accounting servers for the lumber industry among others |
| 03:34:14 | prpplague | legodude: we also design and build our own thin clients and handhelds |
| 03:36:16 | legodude | what? |
| 03:36:23 | legodude | accounting services and palm pilots? |
| 03:37:51 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:38:11 | sorphin | prpplague: feel free to beat him over the head w/ old rusty POS's |
| 03:38:27 | legodude | kinda like a place printing bibles and making dildos |
| 03:38:34 | legodude | odd combination |
| 03:38:51 | sorphin | umm |
| 03:39:15 | sorphin | legodude: why do you think i tease him so much about POS stuff? :P |
| 03:39:26 | prpplague | legodude: hmm, i don't recall saying palm pilots |
| 03:39:30 | legodude | I thought you meant point of sale |
| 03:39:42 | sorphin | he does |
| 03:39:52 | legodude | prpplague: I said palms as a generic handhelds type name |
| 03:39:56 | prpplague | legodude: the handhelds are for inventory and receiving |
| 03:40:02 | prpplague | legodude: ohh |
| 03:40:02 | legodude | ahso |
| 03:40:05 | legodude | like the symbol ones? |
| 03:40:09 | sorphin | legodude: you didn't imply that ;) |
| 03:40:18 | prpplague | legodude: similiar but a lot less expensive |
| 03:40:23 | legodude | very neat |
| 03:40:33 | legodude | I've thought of getting some of the symbols to play around with |
| 03:40:37 | legodude | the old school ones with keyboards |
| 03:40:39 | legodude | and rf |
| 03:40:59 | prpplague | legodude: ya most of them won't support linux |
| 03:41:06 | prpplague | legodude: there are a few though |
| 03:41:18 | legodude | do you mean running linux on the client? |
| 03:41:22 | legodude | or on the server system? |
| 03:41:29 | prpplague | on the client |
| 03:41:45 | legodude | that doesn't interest me that much |
| 03:41:50 | prpplague | ohh |
| 03:41:56 | legodude | if they can connect to a linux server I'd like it |
| 03:42:08 | sorphin | legodude: well, it's his job, he doesn't do it to interest you ;) |
| 03:42:12 | legodude | isn't the included software with those decent? |
| 03:42:17 | legodude | SMACKS sorphin |
| 03:42:23 | prpplague | legodude: ya thats just it, once you buy a symbol unit, you have to pay for the software to run it |
| 03:42:26 | sorphin | legodude: you're the one making the comments |
| 03:43:04 | prpplague | legodude: most of the symbol x86 units are running dr-dos with tcp stack |
| 03:43:15 | legodude | isn't it just generic software |
| 03:43:36 | legodude | with support for stuff like "the next item scanned is going to be removed from inventory" |
| 03:43:45 | legodude | or am I completely confused to as how they work? |
| 03:44:02 | prpplague | legodude: most of them have a custom telnet app |
| 03:44:19 | legodude | so you just write the software on the server? |
| 03:44:19 | prpplague | legodude: basically a speciliazed version of netcat |
| 03:44:54 | prpplague | legodude: right, in order to find out about their telnet api, you have to buy the sdk |
| 03:45:00 | legodude | ahso |
| 03:45:01 | legodude | I see |
| 03:45:08 | legodude | so that's where putting linux on them makes sense? |
| 03:45:10 | prpplague | legodude: the sdk's range from $4k to $50k |
| 03:45:20 | prpplague | legodude: eggxactly |
| 03:45:39 | legodude | I getcha now |
| 03:45:53 | legodude | and reverse enginerring them doesn't work? |
| 03:46:05 | legodude | wouldn't it be relatively simple? |
| 03:46:46 | prpplague | legodude: if they get wind of it they sick the lawyers on ya |
| 03:46:53 | legodude | ahso |
| 03:46:56 | prpplague | legodude: now, these guys are gonna rack up - http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2525542505.html |
| 03:46:59 | prpplague | legodude: i' |
| 03:47:03 | prpplague | legodude: i |
| 03:47:09 | prpplague | argh, laptop keyboard |
| 03:47:18 | prpplague | legodude: i've got two of them and they rock |
| 03:49:01 | legodude | it looks very cool |
| 03:49:06 | legodude | I'm reading the article now |
| 03:49:50 | legodude | how much are they? |
| 03:50:54 | legodude | and are they using a nanoengine in there or is the whole thing custom hw? |
| 03:51:26 | prpplague | legodude: retail around $1500 |
| 03:52:25 | legodude | very cool |
| 03:58:48 | legodude | g'nite all |
| 04:02:33 | prpplague | legodude: i'm out here too |
| 04:02:36 | prpplague | later guys |
| 04:22:27 | MonMotha | can't figure out why blob can't load his kernel |
| 04:23:02 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:24:01 | MonMotha | I honestly don't know why |
| 04:24:05 | MonMotha | it's in /boot/linux |
| 04:38:11 | sorphin | heh, an ad for the IQuest |
| 04:40:10 | MonMotha | the IQuest? |
| 04:40:15 | MonMotha | I only know IQuest as a local ISP :) |
| 04:40:20 | MonMotha | they're actually pretty good |
| 04:43:08 | sorphin | it's the lil thing that prpplague bought w/ the bubblechip |
| 05:49:04 | scanline | is back (gone 09:43:31) |
| 06:22:02 | MonMotha | hum...note to self: always replace cap on flux |
| 06:24:22 | as_ | That reminds me, I need to get some flux, this low residue solder is utter rubbish. |
| 06:25:09 | MonMotha | as_: I have a tube you can have :) |
| 06:26:21 | MonMotha | heh, tube says "flux paste", now it really is a paste |
| 06:27:30 | as_ | Cost more to post than to simply buy some here, but thanks anyway ;] |
| 06:28:05 | as_ | I tried using solder paste. Damn stuff goes off. |
| 06:28:32 | as_ | Damn stuff has set like concrete. |
| 06:29:39 | MonMotha | this stuff is pretty "pasty" now |
| 06:29:43 | MonMotha | I can barely squeeze it out of the tube |
| 06:30:43 | MonMotha | ... |
| 06:30:49 | MonMotha | "...now overwhelmingly dominated by Microsoft's inelegant but overwhelmingly dominant Outlook... |
| 06:30:50 | MonMotha | gah |
| 06:30:55 | MonMotha | does that sound a bit redundant? |
| 06:31:02 | MonMotha | needs to stop trying to type with one hand |
| 06:31:21 | as_ | 2 uses of the word dominant, not good. |
| 06:31:53 | as_ | Err, and overwhelmingly. |
| 06:32:10 | MonMotha | two uses of "overwhelmingly dominant" |
| 06:32:18 | as_ | Yes, that. |
| 06:32:51 | as_ | How about unweildy rather than inelegent. |
| 06:33:16 | as_ | And 'overshadowed' might work depending on what the rest of the sentance is. |
| 06:33:52 | as_ | Its neerly 8am, time for me to sleep before my brain unilaterally decides to shut down. GNite ;] |
| 06:34:04 | MonMotha | heh |
| 06:34:04 | MonMotha | gn |
| 08:32:12 | Russ | can someone who has access look at the subscriber list, and see who is *@expertm.com, and remove them? |
| 12:58:25 | scanline | is away: Spam, spam, spam, breakfast, and spam! |
| 13:20:46 | scanline | is back (gone 00:22:20) |
| 14:22:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you alive this morning? |
| 14:37:28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I am now |
| 14:37:31 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 63:24:10) |
| 14:53:22 | kergoth | morning |
| 14:53:23 | kergoth | mornin scanline |
| 14:53:23 | scanline | morning kergoth |
| 14:53:23 | CosmicPenguin | Where is prpplague going? Bahamas? |
| 14:54:26 | scanline | kergoth: took some juicy new scaps this morning :) |
| 14:59:20 | scanline | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.26161.png |
| 14:59:20 | scanline | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.26306.png |
| 14:59:20 | scanline | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1331.png |
| 14:59:20 | scanline | I think those were the coolest |
| 14:59:20 | scanline | might be able to finally fix that field widget today so the apps that require it (xchat!) work right |
| 15:01:27 | kergoth | scanline: nice! |
| 15:01:37 | kergoth | scanline: ljp dug up updated freetype code for opie |
| 15:01:49 | kergoth | scanline: the launcher cant seem to use them, but apps seem able to |
| 15:01:53 | scanline | spiffy! I saw him in the log asking about fonts, but didn't know what it was for |
| 15:02:01 | kergoth | scanline: so i added ttf-openoffice.org to the buildroot |
| 15:02:54 | scanline | kergoth: that include all the openoffice fonts? |
| 15:03:29 | scanline | kergoth: several of them suck and are just a waste of space |
| 15:03:31 | kergoth | scanline: whatever the debian ttf-openoffice.org package includes :) |
| 15:03:36 | kergoth | scanline: i split them into independent ipks |
| 15:03:49 | kergoth | scanline: one per font, which includes whichever versions of that font exit (r/i/b/bi) |
| 15:03:54 | kergoth | s/exit/exist/ |
| 15:03:57 | scanline | kergoth: maybe you could use the pg-fonts package? It has a good cross-section of free fonts from openoffice, ghostscript, and X |
| 21:19:07 | scanline | is away: Dave... my mind is going... |
| 21:19:26 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 22:00:02 | CosmicPenguin | puts on some light music |
