| 00:00:39 | Morn | eLinux? |
| 00:01:33 | BZFlag | e - embedded |
| 00:01:38 | Morn | ah |
| 00:02:00 | BZFlag | will be http://eLinux.org/ though SF probably does not know that yet. |
| 00:02:44 | BZFlag | http://eLinux.SourceForge.net/ should work but I don't have anything up there yet. |
| 00:24:18 | Russ|werk | hey andersee |
| 00:26:50 | andersee | hey |
| 00:28:00 | andersee | Russ|werk: what can I do for you? |
| 00:40:13 | jacques | ok I checked in the tinyx patch |
| 00:40:16 | jacques | testing it now |
| 00:58:53 | Barbicane | andersee: will you be ready? |
| 01:00:08 | jacques | damn are we ever going to fix the udhcp cvs checkout hang? |
| 01:01:11 | andersee | Barbicane: should be |
| 01:01:23 | jacques | at least let's make it a tarball |
| 01:12:16 | jacques | ok it appears to have worked, tinyx compiles again in cvs buildroot |
| 01:12:58 | jacques | hmm I forgot to commit the rxvt.mk file which also needs fixing |
| 01:16:30 | jacques | committed |
| 01:24:41 | jacques | hmm ncurses build is broken |
| 02:02:38 | prpplague | hey cpenguin_home |
| 02:04:14 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: hello |
| 02:04:41 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: argh, having problems with a router in barbados |
| 02:12:22 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: yeah, thats what you were saying before |
| 02:17:06 | sorphin | prpplague: did someone say router? |
| 02:17:45 | prpplague | sorphin: actually its a cisco layer 3 |
| 02:17:54 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:18:01 | sorphin | dude, all i do at work is deal w/ cisco gear :P |
| 02:18:10 | prpplague | sorphin: oh ya? |
| 02:18:16 | sorphin | we do layer 3 vpns :P |
| 02:18:52 | sorphin | whas the prob? |
| 02:19:02 | prpplague | sorphin: well, this layer 3 was working fine, all of suden the status light turned right and now i can't get it to come up |
| 02:20:08 | prpplague | sorphin: i think the frekin config has been lost |
| 02:20:10 | sorphin | grins |
| 02:20:17 | sorphin | got remote console? |
| 02:20:37 | prpplague | sorphin: working on that now |
| 02:20:48 | prpplague | sorphin: whats the deal, bad config file? |
| 02:21:47 | sorphin | i could be.. what's the *actual model* of it? :P to my recollection there's no actual router called a 'layer 3', they all *work* at layer 3.. |
| 02:21:48 | sorphin | grins |
| 02:21:52 | sorphin | s/i/it/ |
| 02:22:13 | prpplague | sorphin: point taken , iirc its a 3900 series |
| 02:22:26 | sorphin | ah, k |
| 02:22:45 | sorphin | well, you definately need console |
| 02:22:53 | sorphin | only way to tell for sure what's going on |
| 02:23:04 | prpplague | sorphin: ya i need to find out what the problem is |
| 02:24:01 | sorphin | well, once you're in the console, you can do a show start to see if it still has it's boot up config, and a show run to see if it has a running config, next would be to check that all interfaces are up (none are admin down) |
| 02:24:29 | sorphin | if they are, check your routing table, i assume you're running BGP? |
| 02:25:20 | prpplague | sorphin: ya |
| 02:27:10 | sorphin | grins as he looks at cco |
| 02:27:31 | sorphin | Cisco Catalyst 3900? :P~ |
| 02:28:19 | prpplague | sorphin: ya |
| 02:28:23 | sorphin | grins |
| 02:28:31 | prpplague | sorphin: this is a mess |
| 02:28:32 | sorphin | that's a switch :P |
| 02:28:58 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah, you could say that |
| 02:29:42 | sorphin | where were you doing to it/trying to do to it? |
| 02:29:54 | prpplague | sorphin: the problem is this company doesn't like to pay for on site tech support they insist on doing this shit themselves |
| 02:30:06 | sorphin | of course |
| 02:30:19 | sorphin | and they're doing layer 3 switching |
| 02:30:21 | sorphin | lovely |
| 02:30:25 | prpplague | sorphin: ya |
| 02:30:35 | prpplague | sorphin: now they have it all blown up |
| 02:30:51 | prpplague | sorphin: and we have 6 hours before the stores start opening |
| 02:32:50 | sorphin | is the main ip of the switch pingable at all? |
| 02:33:11 | prpplague | nope, looks like the switch is totally dead to tcp/ip |
| 02:33:39 | sorphin | it quite possibly lost it's config then |
| 02:33:55 | sorphin | i hope these numbnuts have sense to write net to somewhere :P |
| 02:34:02 | prpplague | got them setting up a linux box so i can ssh into the network, then use minicom to go through the console |
| 02:34:35 | sorphin | k |
| 02:34:46 | prpplague | sorphin: i bet the config is ther just screwed up |
| 02:34:55 | sorphin | we'll see |
| 02:35:07 | prpplague | ya well, its going to be a long night |
| 02:35:09 | sorphin | or more to the point you'll see, since i'll just have to listen to you :P |
| 02:35:14 | prpplague | lol |
| 02:35:42 | sorphin | now you know why i support our techs and not customers ;) |
| 02:35:57 | prpplague | sorphin: kergoth and i both know why |
| 02:36:23 | sorphin | if you ever hear any mention of Worldcom Private IP |
| 02:36:43 | prpplague | sorphin: don't tell me you work for worldcom |
| 02:36:43 | sorphin | or Private IP VPN, or Secure Internet Gateway |
| 02:36:50 | sorphin | yup, i do |
| 02:37:09 | prpplague | sorphin: argh, i curse worldcoms frame relay service almost daily |
| 02:37:14 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:37:16 | sorphin | so do we ;) |
| 02:37:47 | sorphin | the going name internally for lucent is looseend |
| 02:38:22 | sorphin | that's why "Real Men Use ATM" *grin* |
| 02:41:24 | sorphin | i really wish opn/freenode would get off the ident kick |
| 02:41:32 | sorphin | you can't come from a firewall proper w/ it |
| 02:41:55 | [sorphin] | pokes prpplague ;) |
| 02:43:29 | prpplague | [sorphin]: whats up? |
| 02:44:12 | [sorphin] | hehe |
| 02:44:17 | [sorphin] | look at the hostmask :P |
| 02:44:33 | prpplague | [sorphin]: whats that you say? |
| 02:44:49 | sorphin | -:- [sorphin] [~dans@claudia.wcomnet.com] has joined #tuxscreen |
| 02:47:35 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 02:48:49 | [sorphin] | prpplague is nothing but a POS lover ;) |
| 02:50:13 | prpplague | [sorphin]: i'd settle for a dirty cisco bastard right now |
| 02:57:55 | Barbicane | andersee: 20 minutes? |
| 02:58:30 | sorphin | Barbicane: /m him? :P |
| 02:58:31 | prpplague | [sorphin]: yep the config has been lost |
| 02:58:37 | sorphin | prpplague: figured as much |
| 02:58:49 | prpplague | sorphin: freaking cisco crap |
| 02:58:56 | sorphin | prpplague: don't suppose some brainchild there has EVER DONE a write net? |
| 02:59:05 | sorphin | hey, don't blame the gear |
| 02:59:15 | sorphin | it's the lusers who can't type 'write mem' and 'write net' |
| 02:59:25 | sorphin | or that can and do it at the wrong time |
| 02:59:35 | prpplague | sorphin: as soon as i can get into the server to check, i sure hope they dude |
| 02:59:40 | prpplague | dide |
| 02:59:47 | sorphin | did |
| 02:59:53 | prpplague | that too |
| 03:00:23 | sorphin | if not, i think we need to both fly to barbados w/ baseball bats ;) |
| 03:02:42 | sorphin | or send em file ;) |
| 03:03:19 | prpplague | sorphin: !$@#%@!$%@$, i can't get these guys to get me a net connection so can ssh in |
| 03:03:37 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:03:51 | sorphin | for a moment there, i thought i heard surprise in your "tone" |
| 03:04:22 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, i'm suppose to go down there later this month to clean up this network nightmare |
| 03:04:28 | prpplague | sorphin: might just be headed out early |
| 03:05:04 | sorphin | yup, better throw some stuff into a bag |
| 03:05:17 | prpplague | kergoth: its your turn to shoot me! |
| 03:05:39 | prpplague | bangs head on desk |
| 03:05:47 | prpplague | bangs head on desk again |
| 03:05:57 | prpplague | bangs head on desk and again |
| 03:06:05 | sorphin | prpplague: now you know what i do all day |
| 03:06:14 | | ACTION shoots prpplague |
| 03:06:14 | kergoth | ibot shoot prpplague |
| 03:06:23 | sorphin | >BANG< |
| 03:08:52 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well i do this too, its normally just not quite this bad |
| 03:08:52 | prpplague | sorphin: normally i only get this frustrated dealing with verizon |
| 03:08:52 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:08:52 | sorphin | if they get me involved |
| 03:08:52 | sorphin | it's *at least* this bad ;) |
| 03:08:53 | prpplague | sorphin: i realy, really believe that verizon hires homeless ppl to staff its noc |
| 03:08:53 | sorphin | our group is mostly ccnps now or people becoming ccnps |
| 03:08:53 | sorphin | atleast when they were bell atlantic/nynex, you could smack em around a lil |
| 03:08:54 | prpplague | sorphin: "you there! you want a hot shower and a meal? come answer this phone and say 'it must be your equipment!'" |
| 03:09:05 | sorphin | ;) |
| 03:09:23 | prpplague | www.verizoneatspop.com |
| 03:10:15 | sorphin | +o |
| 03:10:24 | sorphin | ;) |
| 03:10:24 | prpplague | yep |
| 03:11:18 | sorphin | trust me, i know |
| 03:11:18 | sorphin | i used to be a floor install tech |
| 03:11:18 | sorphin | mighta even installed some of your ckts :P |
| 03:12:30 | sorphin | was trained in private line, frame, HS frame, ATM, etc.. |
| 03:12:30 | sorphin | has a right scary CV ;) |
| 03:12:32 | prpplague | we have a dds circuit in NY right now that giving us headaches |
| 03:12:40 | prpplague | sorphin: IIRC we sent a tech out via plane this afternoon |
| 03:12:45 | sorphin | shivers |
| 03:12:50 | sorphin | wanna hear something pathetic |
| 03:12:52 | sorphin | ? |
| 03:12:58 | prpplague | sorphin: bad tx pair but the telco doesn't care |
| 03:13:01 | prpplague | sorphin: sure |
| 03:13:08 | sorphin | think it was a provisioner |
| 03:13:29 | sorphin | she ordered a ckt, for.. i forget if it was 768 or wahte it was |
| 03:13:33 | sorphin | guess how she ordered it |
| 03:13:46 | prpplague | sorphin: do tell? |
| 03:13:48 | sorphin | go ahead, guess ;) |
| 03:14:06 | prpplague | hmmm .768 of a t3? |
| 03:14:39 | sorphin | 56k dds ckts.. (so not only would that not work, but the cust would have to have a router w/ far too many serial ports and CSU/DSUs) |
| 03:15:10 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh, i thought you meant something really creative |
| 03:15:18 | prpplague | sorphin: the best one i had was with bell south |
| 03:15:33 | sorphin | that's all you have to say is bell south ;) |
| 03:15:38 | sorphin | i'm sure i've seen it ;) |
| 03:15:38 | prpplague | sorphin: this woman provisioner was setting up 10 frame dlci's |
| 03:16:13 | prpplague | sorphin: she assigned 101 - 110 , i asked her why because we normaly get 16 up on standard annex-d stuff |
| 03:16:21 | sorphin | is this like a woman walks into a bar? |
| 03:16:21 | sorphin | grins |
| 03:16:44 | prpplague | sorphin: she answered "no reason other than it look really cute when i configure it in the switch...." |
| 03:16:55 | kergoth | prpplague: haha |
| 03:17:06 | sorphin | lovely |
| 03:17:24 | sorphin | one of the more fun things i've had to diagnose |
| 03:17:35 | sorphin | is when someone has a mux set wrong |
| 03:18:09 | sorphin | everything else is fine, cept that mux decides it wants to be AMI |
| 03:18:14 | sorphin | call the tech |
| 03:18:19 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 03:18:19 | sorphin | he reboots the mux |
| 03:18:24 | sorphin | everythings fine |
| 03:19:10 | Morn | you guys remember me complaining that I couldn't install linux on my dual athlon? |
| 03:19:12 | sorphin | so what company exactly do you work for? |
| 03:19:16 | kergoth | i love calling a telco, reporting a problem, and having it 'magically' start working, as they figured out somebody tripped over a cable or something |
| 03:19:20 | sorphin | i'll watch for any of your ckts ;) |
| 03:19:24 | sorphin | Morn: aye |
| 03:19:25 | kergoth | while they tell me to my face nothing is wrong |
| 03:19:27 | kergoth | stupid fuckers |
| 03:19:36 | prpplague | sorphin: ya then when the adaptive managment kicks in again their back down again |
| 03:19:37 | sorphin | kergoth: they do that to us too |
| 03:19:38 | Morn | sorphin: If I put a different video card in I can install |
| 03:19:54 | sorphin | still agp or pci ? |
| 03:20:02 | Morn | I saw a post on google about someone with the same trouble as me |
| 03:20:03 | prpplague | kergoth: oh ya thats one of my favorites |
| 03:20:05 | Morn | still agp |
| 03:20:06 | sorphin | prpplague: *points at his Q* |
| 03:20:20 | sorphin | Morn: what card vs what card? |
| 03:20:22 | Morn | it seems GeForce 3 Ti 200/500 is the problem |
| 03:20:26 | prpplague | kergoth: "ya let me run a test, yep no problems" "ahh thats strange the circuit is working now" |
| 03:20:30 | Morn | I put a GeForce 200MX in |
| 03:20:57 | MonMotha | hey, what's everyone's favorite method for making small PCBs? |
| 03:20:57 | prpplague | sorphin: i work for http://www.abcsinc.com ya crappy web site, but hey, i'm not in media |
| 03:21:02 | sorphin | Morn: here's oen for ya jules |
| 03:21:08 | kergoth | prpplague: yep |
| 03:21:16 | sorphin | giga, is an athlon w/ an IWill KK266 board |
| 03:21:22 | sorphin | and a GeForce256 |
| 03:21:30 | sorphin | the Geforce 256 has no probs in my other box |
| 03:21:33 | sorphin | but in THIS box |
| 03:21:43 | sorphin | it's tempermental if you power cycle |
| 03:21:48 | Morn | sorphin: I'm 'hoping' that if I get linux setup and configured on the box, I can tweak the heck out of and get the other card working |
| 03:21:50 | sorphin | on whether the machine wants to come up |
| 03:21:52 | prpplague | kergoth: my other favorite is when we are installing a new frame circuit and i get lmi but no dlci's and the telco "oh ya we got every thing running on the line" |
| 03:21:59 | sorphin | yet the TNT worked fine when it was in here |
| 03:22:01 | Morn | sorphin: mine does the same |
| 03:22:15 | Morn | sometimes you have to power cycle it instead of just reboot |
| 03:22:23 | prpplague | kergoth: its like "no you idiot, you need to build out the dlci's!!!!!!" |
| 03:22:31 | sorphin | i have to sit and tweak how the cards sitting :P |
| 03:22:46 | kergoth | prpplague: oh those are fun... |
| 03:22:51 | kergoth | mutters under his breath |
| 03:22:51 | sorphin | prpplague: um.. someone have a broken space bar? |
| 03:22:59 | sorphin | prpplague: Advantage Business ComputerSystems, Inc. |
| 03:23:17 | prpplague | sorphin: like i said we have our own idiots in the media department |
| 03:23:22 | Morn | any idea how to easily convert 200 Gig of NTFS partitions to ext3 without losing the data? |
| 03:23:31 | sorphin | Partition Magic |
| 03:23:31 | Morn | I don't have enough space to just copy the files off |
| 03:24:01 | Morn | it's mostly video files |
| 03:24:01 | sorphin | only thing i've ever seen that can convert NTFS to anything |
| 03:24:04 | prpplague | sorphin: we do accounting systems for comapnies/countries that have special needs |
| 03:24:14 | sorphin | prpplague: aka are retarded |
| 03:24:27 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:24:29 | prpplague | sorphin: that too |
| 03:24:52 | prpplague | sorphin: we preffered common sense challenged |
| 03:25:05 | Morn | sorphin: plus my printer/scanner are useless under linux :-( |
| 03:25:05 | Morn | I need to deal with that |
| 03:25:23 | sorphin | Morn: next time, don't buy a *lexmark* combo unit ;) |
| 03:25:33 | sorphin | lexmark is notorious for being like that |
| 03:25:35 | Morn | sorphin: for the cost it was a good deal |
| 03:25:47 | prpplague | i thought ibm was making sure that lexmark products were linux compatible? |
| 03:25:55 | sorphin | Morn: oh, you mean it was worth the cost of your sanity? ;) |
| 03:26:11 | sorphin | prpplague: there you go... THINKING when it comes to IBM again |
| 03:26:14 | Morn | I'll need to have a vmware windows install just to use that and some other things |
| 03:26:19 | prpplague | sorphin: ha |
| 03:26:34 | sorphin | prpplague: here's one for you |
| 03:26:43 | sorphin | long over due |
| 03:26:46 | prpplague | sorphin: so you going to give me your direct access number to give you a call on these worldcom installs? |
| 03:26:51 | sorphin | i pulled the power on my A21p last night |
| 03:27:05 | sorphin | battry runs down ,turns off |
| 03:27:10 | sorphin | i hit power, it comes back up |
| 03:27:15 | sorphin | it says 0% available |
| 03:27:18 | sorphin | yet |
| 03:27:24 | sorphin | it's still pushing out 1.5-2.5 amps |
| 03:27:27 | sorphin | at 10.8 |
| 03:27:34 | sorphin | for atleast 30 mins or so |
| 03:27:42 | sorphin | when it claimed NO time remaining |
| 03:27:46 | sorphin | it never used to do that |
| 03:27:59 | prpplague | A21p? |
| 03:28:01 | sorphin | maybe i misjudged the tolerance of LIon? |
| 03:28:22 | sorphin | an actual decent thinkpad (not stinkpad) |
| 03:28:30 | prpplague | ahh |
| 03:28:31 | sorphin | 15" lcd |
| 03:28:32 | prpplague | gotcha |
| 03:28:34 | sorphin | 1280x1024 |
| 03:28:37 | sorphin | 32G |
| 03:28:39 | sorphin | 128M |
| 03:28:43 | sorphin | PIII 850 |
| 03:28:49 | sorphin | dvd |
| 03:28:55 | sorphin | got minipci ethernet |
| 03:29:06 | prpplague | did i tell you guys about my new toshiba laptop? |
| 03:29:08 | sorphin | the modem part is winmodem, but it's linuxable even tho i don't use it |
| 03:29:15 | sorphin | nope |
| 03:29:32 | prpplague | i bought a 2405 and the boss liked it so much we started selling them to our customers |
| 03:30:01 | prpplague | well i left mine at the office friday over the weekend, and someone thought it was a customers and shipped it to saudi |
| 03:30:02 | sorphin | prpplague: i think where i screwed up, is i never let it run off battery, it sits on the AC all the time, mostly idle.. and from what a guy at work told me (who knows alot about everything)... even LIon doesn't like that |
| 03:30:11 | sorphin | prpplague: ROTFL |
| 03:30:21 | sorphin | now they have all your pr0n? |
| 03:30:24 | prpplague | :( |
| 03:30:30 | prpplague | sorphin: exaclty |
| 03:30:50 | prpplague | sorphin: now they are calling and saying "send us 10 more JUST LIKE this one!" |
| 03:30:55 | sorphin | find that someone, kick their ass |
| 03:30:58 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 03:30:59 | sorphin | i bet |
| 03:32:40 | kergoth | lmao |
| 03:32:42 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 03:34:01 | prpplague | kergoth: man i think i should have just went to the nudie bar this evening |
| 03:34:08 | sorphin | prpplague: that'll teach ya |
| 03:34:10 | kergoth | prpplague: definately. |
| 03:36:13 | prpplague | funny thing is one of the women in inventory works nights at one of the local nudie bars |
| 03:37:40 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:38:50 | sorphin | anyone else here have an xbox? |
| 03:39:37 | prpplague | sorphin: as much as i like the idea of hacking a m$ product to run linux, i can't justify sending money to the software nazis |
| 03:39:55 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:40:04 | sorphin | i just pretend its going somewhere else |
| 03:40:15 | sorphin | you get a lot for that $199 |
| 03:40:28 | sorphin | i frankly don't care if M$ designed it or not |
| 03:40:34 | kergoth | i really really really despise the xbox controllers |
| 03:40:42 | prpplague | sorphin: ya $199 goes a long way at the nudie bar |
| 03:40:45 | sorphin | kergoth: they're just USB |
| 03:40:52 | sorphin | prpplague: don't talk to me about that |
| 03:40:56 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 03:40:57 | sorphin | i wasted $850 in vegas |
| 03:41:04 | jacques | heh |
| 03:41:08 | jacques | how? |
| 03:41:15 | sorphin | $50 was on getting scammed |
| 03:41:26 | jacques | scammed? |
| 03:41:27 | sorphin | 800 as other "recreational" |
| 03:56:14 | Morn | anyone here speak esperanto? |
| 03:56:38 | sorphin | i don't even know what that is ;) |
| 03:57:19 | Morn | it's a language that was created to be easy for everyone to learn and give a nationality neutral language |
| 03:57:36 | sorphin | ah |
| 03:57:58 | sorphin | well, english isn't exactly nationality tied.. ;) |
| 03:58:12 | Morn | I was just reminded of it since it is one of the languages that mandrake gives you the option of using |
| 04:00:01 | sorphin | ah |
| 04:02:26 | prpplague | Morn: i didn't know esperanto was taught in the US |
| 04:02:41 | Morn | I found a web site about it |
| 04:02:49 | Morn | I even signed up for a course, just curious |
| 04:03:18 | prpplague | Morn: IIRC its a primary school class in the UK |
| 04:03:54 | Morn | ah |
| 04:05:22 | sorphin | heh, nice how trying to find a page ABOUT it, i find pages IN It instead :P |
| 04:08:54 | sorphin | Morn: so if this is supposed to be nationality independant, who came up w/ it? |
| 04:11:13 | Morn | Esperanto, the international language, is a language developed to make it |
| 04:11:13 | Morn | easier for people of different cultures to communicate. Its author, Dr. L. |
| 04:11:14 | Morn | L. Zamenhof (1859-1917), published his "Lingvo Internacia" in 1887 under |
| 04:11:14 | Morn | the pseudonym "Dr. Esperanto". |
| 04:11:45 | sorphin | so where'd you sign up for this course, where's a _good_ page about it? |
| 04:12:09 | Morn | http://www.esperanto-usa.org/lessons.html |
| 04:13:38 | sorphin | email course, html course ? |
| 04:14:03 | Morn | I signed up for the email course |
| 04:17:24 | Morn | I wonder if it is worth recompiling the default kernel for Mandrake to add athlon specific stuff |
| 04:17:53 | sorphin | i never use a dist kernel |
| 04:18:55 | Morn | I think first I need to see how I'm going to move all these files around |
| 04:19:49 | sorphin | andersee: didn't miss your interview did you? *snicker* |
| 04:23:55 | andersee | sorphin: nope |
| 04:24:01 | andersee | sorphin: didn't |
| 04:26:23 | MonMotha | w00t! tinyx fixed? |
| 04:27:43 | sorphin | MonMotha: can the w00t :P |
| 04:29:09 | MonMotha | this isn't quake 3? :) |
| 04:29:32 | MonMotha | anyway, I'm going to bed |
| 04:29:32 | MonMotha | gn |
| 04:30:58 | sorphin | MonMotha: if this were quake |
| 04:31:02 | sorphin | i'd have to frag you :P |
| 04:31:28 | MonMotha | "QUAD DAMAGE!" :() |
| 04:31:32 | MonMotha | :) |
| 04:31:32 | MonMotha | gn :) |
| 04:32:07 | Morn | hmmm |
| 04:32:14 | Morn | linux seems to work great til I start compiling |
| 04:32:17 | Morn | then it locks up |
| 04:35:47 | sorphin | Morn: um.. i dunno bout this being easy to learn..i think french was easier :P |
| 07:02:21 | fontenot | yes virginia, there is a santa clause |
| 11:23:46 | TomW | Monning all. |
| 11:24:02 | TomW | er, Morning all. |
| 11:24:15 | TomW | Too early to spell properly.. |
| 11:24:26 | prpplague | hidy ho TomW |
| 11:24:31 | prpplague | TomW: long time |
| 11:24:55 | prpplague | TomW: heard anything from intel rep? |
| 11:24:56 | TomW | Hey, I finally put xchat on the new workstation and found my old config files. |
| 11:25:39 | TomW | No, I have to call again today. Intel is a pain to work with, they are too big. Ever look for something on the Intel site? Too much stuff up there! |
| 11:26:00 | prpplague | TomW: been there done that |
| 11:26:34 | TomW | I am going to teke a close look at that schematic this morning and see if I can find any glaring errors in the SDRAM stuff. |
| 11:26:46 | prpplague | TomW: ok thanks |
| 11:27:08 | prpplague | TomW: the board layouts should be done thursday or friday and ready for review as well |
| 11:27:17 | TomW | The schematic that the group I am tangled up with have some real problems with theirs... |
| 11:28:07 | TomW | They are only up to the point of having the schematic done, they haven't done the layout yet. Maybe you could contract that out for them? heh. |
| 11:29:37 | TomW | The guy they have has obviously NOT done anything like the SA processor before. I don't have much say as to who does what, I am not even sure that I want to get that deeply involved, otherwise I could find myself being asked to do the layout and I don't wish to tackle BGA stuff just yet. |
| 11:29:45 | prpplague | TomW: ha! this is my first arm board, i'm not an expert |
| 11:30:08 | TomW | I would rather their guy screw up on the BGA stuff so that I can learn what the pitfalls are. |
| 11:30:12 | prpplague | TomW: lol |
| 11:30:52 | prpplague | TomW: hey while i got you here, can pest you for a basic electronics question? |
| 11:31:02 | TomW | ok |
| 11:31:27 | TomW | keep it simple as I am feeling a bit stupid this morning. |
| 11:31:50 | prpplague | TomW: i've got a device powered by 5vdc, i want to control the power via one of the control lines on a rs-232 port ( i.e. the dcd or rts) |
| 11:32:04 | prpplague | TomW: whats the best transistor for the job? |
| 11:33:23 | TomW | Well, I would look at a 2N7000 FET. It is a general purpose type of FET, has diode protection (to avoid puncturing the gate at reverse bias) and is good for switching applications. |
| 11:34:10 | prpplague | TomW: ok thanks, i'll have a look |
| 11:35:09 | TomW | I seldom use bipolar transistors anymore as I do very little analog work. Most of my stuff is digital and most analog stuff that I need is power supply related. |
| 11:35:25 | prpplague | TomW: that was a concern since if i use a line like rts then i will potentially have the value of -5v or +5v |
| 11:36:06 | TomW | yup, use a limiting series resistor / diode to avoid loading / shorting the RTS line. |
| 11:36:39 | prpplague | TomW: i wish i had more time to dive into more hardware |
| 11:36:59 | prpplague | TomW: cool |
| 11:37:37 | prpplague | TomW: thanks for the info, that'll send me in the right direction |
| 11:37:45 | TomW | something like a 1N4148 switching diode in series with the RTS signal, then a 4.7K load resistor following the diode at the 2N7000 gate. |
| 11:39:53 | TomW | Or, since the 2N7000 does have an internal clamping diode, simply put a 4.7K resistor in series with the gate lead. Check on the dissipation of the clamp diode to see how much current it is rated for, then adjust the 4.7K value if needed, but 4.7K should be fine. |
| 11:40:20 | prpplague | TomW: great i new you could help :) |
| 11:40:33 | prpplague | s/new/knew |
| 11:40:51 | TomW | Yeah, some of this stuff I know... ;) |
| 11:41:24 | prpplague | TomW: normally for digital stuff you don't want to use linear voltage regulators right? |
| 11:41:49 | TomW | Depends. |
| 11:42:20 | prpplague | TomW: on what? how tolerant the device is to power margins? |
| 11:42:37 | TomW | Your problem is efficiency. A series regulator is only about 30% efficient. That means that 70% of the current passing through it gets dissapted as heat. |
| 11:43:22 | TomW | if your voltage drop is only a few volts and the load on the regulator is tens of milliamps, you probably could afford to waste the heat. |
| 11:43:51 | prpplague | TomW: ahh, i'm running 6v down to 5v, and using a good old 7805, but i've not notice any significant heat |
| 11:44:04 | prpplague | TomW: at only about a peek of 275ma |
| 11:44:25 | TomW | but, say you need 1 amp of current at +5v with a +12v supply to the regulator, then Watts law says: 7 volts times 1 amp is 7 watts of heat that you have to dissapte. |
| 11:44:56 | prpplague | TomW: ahh gotcha |
| 11:45:02 | TomW | er, 70% of 7 watts, roughly 5 watts of heat. |
| 11:45:58 | prpplague | so i'm looking at around .190 watts to dissipate |
| 11:46:43 | TomW | Try it sometime, then go to Thermalloy (or other heatsink vendor), they have math formulas to determine how much heatsink surface area would be required to dissapate a specific amount of waste heat. |
| 11:47:40 | prpplague | TomW: thanks for the |
| 11:47:43 | prpplague | ee101 class |
| 11:48:10 | prpplague | TomW: lol, you need to hold irc based classes..... |
| 11:49:12 | TomW | 200 milliwatts of heat does put you over the limit of a 78L05ACZ device, you could get a 1 watt surface mount device, but you would need some copper foil area of the board to dissapate the waste heat. Usually, you can dissapte the heat into the ground plane on a two layer board. On multilayer it becomes problematic to dissapate the heat as the power layear are generally internal foil layers. |
| 11:50:50 | TomW | that is why switching regulators are so common in multilayer board designs: less waste heat to get rid of. A swither is around 80%..93% efficiency, usually the case of the device is able to dissapate the needed heat. |
| 11:51:28 | TomW | if one switcher is not enough to get rid of the waste heat, consider adding another switcher to the board and divide the load. |
| 11:51:46 | prpplague | TomW: ahh, that would make much better sense for extending battery life as wekk |
| 11:51:55 | prpplague | wll |
| 11:51:57 | TomW | yup. |
| 11:51:57 | prpplague | argh |
| 11:52:00 | prpplague | lack of sleep |
| 11:52:06 | TomW | heh |
| 11:53:05 | TomW | I have been getting plenty of sleep lately. Change of attitude as I am getting older, "screw 'em, the deadline ain't that important..." |
| 11:54:16 | TomW | trick is to spec your work out with a comfortable amount of time to do it in, then convince the customer that you need all that time to do it in.. |
| 11:54:38 | prpplague | TomW: ya well, i had 17 stores down last night because some joesmoe decided to play with a layer3 switch |
| 11:58:04 | sorphin | prpplague: aww.. was tomw teaching you electrical theory again? ;) |
| 11:58:15 | TomW | heh |
| 11:58:33 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 11:58:39 | TomW | sorphin: someone has to keep that boy on the right track. |
| 11:58:39 | sorphin | grins |
| 11:58:45 | sorphin | TomW: hey, i was dealing w/ him last night |
| 11:58:54 | prpplague | TomW: i still think you need to do irc classes, i'd pay, lol |
| 11:59:03 | sorphin | prpplague: i'm an EE too btw. |
| 11:59:45 | TomW | Naw, I find other things to do with my excess time, girl watching is a much better use of spare time.. |
| 12:00:05 | sorphin | i do that regardless of what i'm doing ;) |
| 12:00:46 | TomW | biological necessity |
| 12:01:57 | prpplague | sorphin: ya but TomW is cooler |
| 12:01:58 | TomW | prpplague: btw, not much on that board of yours, seems like you could cram a bit more complexity onto it... say, PC-CARD? |
| 12:02:43 | prpplague | TomW: thats just it, what i'm looking for is a core board with just the items that have to be there because they require special manufacturing techniques |
| 12:02:48 | TomW | prpplague: ... Compact Flash card, ethernet, ... |
| 12:03:23 | TomW | prpplague: heh |
| 12:03:27 | prpplague | TomW: the headers will be a standard .1" header so ppl can use a perf board, or other with standard pieces and play |
| 12:04:27 | prpplague | TomW: i'll be selling the board with a two layer daughter board which will include a cf slot, power connector, rs-232 db-9 , and a large perf section |
| 12:04:44 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i'll remember that. :P |
| 12:04:53 | prpplague | TomW: as well as a lcd, a 4x4 keypad, and as many other cool gadgets i can find for cheap |
| 12:05:08 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 12:05:10 | prpplague | sorphin: jk |
| 12:05:50 | sjhill | howdy prpplague |
| 12:05:51 | sorphin | right right, that's like saying your boy file is cooler than sjhill.. *grin* |
| 12:05:51 | sjhill | hey CosmicPenguin |
| 12:06:03 | sorphin | sjhill: oh hey there ;) |
| 12:06:04 | sorphin | grins |
| 12:06:08 | sorphin | didn't see you come in |
| 12:06:10 | sorphin | winks |
| 12:06:22 | prpplague | sjhill: morning |
| 12:06:35 | sjhill | swings 2x4 at sorphin an misses |
| 12:07:01 | TomW | I will be spec'ing out a new design for a customer shortly: Cirrus 7312 processor, 64Meg SDRAM, 8Meg Flash, 10BaseT, total of 4 serial ports. I would like to put that on a 144 pin DIMM card. |
| 12:07:07 | TomW | sjhill: morning |
| 12:07:15 | sjhill | hey TomW |
| 12:07:25 | sorphin | sjhill: that was intentional, i was poking shit back at prpplague and you just happened to walk in, so i said a definate obvious wrong thing (aka, cuz we know you're cooler than file, easily ;) ) |
| 12:07:34 | TomW | sjhill: yeah, found my config files for xchat today... |
| 12:07:56 | sjhill | sorphin: yeah, i know... |
| 12:07:59 | sjhill | is ubercool |
| 12:08:05 | sorphin | easy there Ego Boy |
| 12:08:08 | sorphin | :P |
| 12:08:09 | sjhill | lol @ TomW |
| 12:08:12 | sjhill | heh |
| 12:08:37 | sorphin | all taht on an sodim eh? |
| 12:08:44 | sorphin | man you don't mess around do you? :P |
| 12:09:25 | TomW | I had to take my Atlon system offline, I had it filled with too much krap and it was a mess. Better to start over again. Funny thing is that the ITX system I have now is faster than the U160 SCSI + Athlon that it replaced. |
| 12:09:54 | prpplague | TomW: ya i'm trying to keep the board simple to most of the stuff you can learn from connecting a daughter board and doing your own design |
| 12:10:43 | TomW | Pentium-III 1 GHz, 512M RAM and two 40Gig UDMA-100 drives. The drives are a bit faster on the transfer rate than my U160 setup was. |
| 12:11:09 | sjhill | TomW: what was your scsi adapter? |
| 12:11:30 | TomW | prpplague: Understood. I need some core functionality that I can reuse on some other projects that they want me to do for them. |
| 12:12:19 | prpplague | TomW: btw, we have been testing the p4 2.2 2.4 and 2.53 and we are actually getting much better db performance from the 2.2's than the 2.4 and 2.53's |
| 12:12:50 | TomW | sjhill: it was an integrate Adaptec controller on the motherboard. Surprise the hell out of me that the UDMA-100 stuff was a bit faster: U160 was abt 34MB/s and the UDMA-100 is 39MB/s. |
| 12:13:19 | TomW | prpplague: figures, less kernel overhead. |
| 12:13:49 | sorphin | bbl. off to make the dreaded commute. |
| 12:14:06 | prpplague | TomW: less kernel overhead? |
| 12:14:07 | TomW | sorphin: carefull of road-rage. |
| 12:15:14 | TomW | prpplague: I would expect that to be the case, there was a lot of rework between 2.2 and 2.4 in many areas wasn't there? |
| 12:15:29 | TomW | prpplague: scheduler, MMU, ... |
| 12:15:34 | prpplague | TomW: ohh, sorry, 2.2ghz 2.4ghz and 2.53ghz |
| 12:15:45 | TomW | ok |
| 12:15:57 | TomW | prpplague: dummy, say what you mean. |
| 12:16:06 | TomW | sheesh |
| 12:16:08 | prpplague | TomW: ya ya, lol, its that sleep thing |
| 12:16:10 | TomW | :D |
| 12:17:22 | TomW | prpplague: I recall the time that I was working 50..70 hours per week on a regular basis. Let me tell you, I did finally hit the wall and burned out.. Wasn't fun. |
| 12:17:42 | TomW | prpplague: took me a year to recover. |
| 12:18:39 | TomW | prpplague: my performance was way down during that year, I just couldn't concentrate. |
| 12:19:36 | TomW | prpplague: anyway, do you think that the speed difference could be cache related? |
| 12:19:39 | prpplague | TomW: ya my limit is about 4 weeks straight before i need a break |
| 12:19:49 | prpplague | TomW: not sure |
| 12:20:06 | prpplague | TomW: we used the same mb, with the same hd and linux install |
| 12:20:14 | prpplague | TomW: just swapped processors |
| 12:21:16 | prpplague | TomW: we spoke to intel(its was an intel board) and they gave us the impression that they had different firmware controls on the different processor that might account for the speed differences |
| 12:21:23 | TomW | or, maybe it is a thread related issue where code is not ready to hand something over to another thread that finishes sooner and there is a time interval before that thread checks the other to see if it completed yet. |
| 12:22:13 | prpplague | TomW: ya thats also a possibility so the software boys are looking over the the i/o wait states in our db |
| 12:22:55 | TomW | the thread synchronization issue may be more severe on the faster processor. Optimization of execution times being lowered due to a reduction in machine cycles of some opcodes within the higher end processors. |
| 12:22:56 | TomW | ? |
| 12:22:58 | prpplague | well, looks like the stores are out of the woods, so i'm going to get some sleep |
| 12:23:41 | TomW | prpplague: k, I'll get back to you on the schematic, I got to get to work now.. |
| 12:23:52 | prpplague | TomW: ya this has been developer over many years and many *nix platforms so i suspect there is something nasty lurky in the code |
| 12:24:02 | prpplague | TomW:thanks for the help this morning |
| 12:24:05 | prpplague | later all |
| 12:24:07 | TomW | np |
| 12:30:07 | TomW | sjhill: I had to retire that U160 system, too much trouble with it. I was using IBM UltraStar U160 drives and the damned things were failing after about a year of service. I ran them 24/7 and they would not stand up! |
| 12:30:41 | sjhill | TomW: ah, that was your problem...i bought U160 Fujistus at 15K RPM and they run flawlessly |
| 12:30:50 | sjhill | wishes he was at home to hug his dual athlon system |
| 12:31:18 | sjhill | 's spelling sucks |
| 12:31:22 | TomW | I figured that I was spending $165 per 18G drive and the UDMA-100 40G drives are only $70 per, makes more economic sense to use the IDE stuff. |
| 12:31:49 | sjhill | TomW: yeah, everyone's needs are different...i wanted reliability |
| 12:32:12 | sjhill | TomW: the MTBF for my Fujitsus is...oh...on average 70 yrs |
| 12:32:14 | TomW | IBM refused to warranty the second drive that had failed, they insisted that I was brutalizing the drives somehow. |
| 12:32:29 | sjhill | they're actually U320 drivers |
| 12:32:31 | sjhill | drives |
| 12:32:35 | sjhill | *gah* |
| 12:32:52 | TomW | Pissed me off when they did that.. |
| 12:32:57 | sjhill | TomW: yeah, we had a similar problem here at work w/IBM scsi drives |
| 12:34:29 | TomW | If they had a thermal problem with the 3" platters then why didn't they make them as a 5" platter with a larger casting to dissapate the heat? I didn't see anthing in the documentation for the drive that said I had to provide some level of airflow to the casting. |
| 12:34:56 | TomW | sjhill: maybe that is why IBM is getting out of the drive market, they cannot make a decent drive? |
| 12:35:18 | sjhill | TomW: that's my opinion for sure |
| 12:35:56 | TomW | What hurt, and it was my own damned fault, I lost some data. I didn't do any backups for abt two months. I lost the Tux IDE drive PCB data. |
| 12:36:48 | TomW | Live and learn. |
| 12:37:19 | TomW | have you seen the ITX motherboards that they have now? Tiny stuff. |
| 12:38:39 | TomW | Book PC is what they are calling them. I have one for my server and another at a customer site for their daily use. Seem to work out okay. I got the boards from FreeTech and Linux installed without problems. |
| 12:40:41 | sjhill | TomW: nope...my next PC purchase will be that cute little Shuttle boxen that looks like a toaster |
| 12:40:53 | sjhill | gonna' get it for my future wife |
| 12:41:43 | TomW | sjhill: Shuttle? |
| 12:42:21 | sjhill | 'sec |
| 12:42:39 | TomW | sjhill: http://www.caseoutlet.com/case/checkercube/checkercube.html |
| 12:42:57 | TomW | sjhill: that is my workstation now. |
| 12:44:07 | TomW | sjhill: I am going to order another one that I can stick my 19160 Adaptec card into and get the CDRW + DAT3 Tape drive working again. |
| 12:44:17 | sjhill | TomW: it's sooo cute -> http://www.shuttleonline.com/spec.php3?model=sv25 |
| 12:44:53 | sjhill | TomW: ah, your machine is similar then |
| 12:45:11 | TomW | sjhill: was just going to say that. |
| 12:45:48 | TomW | 150Watt supply, I have a P-III 1GHz in mine, plus two UDMA-100 40G drives. |
| 12:46:05 | TomW | sjhill: ... CDROM and a floppy. Seems to handle the power load okay. |
| 12:47:24 | sjhill | TomW: cool |
| 12:48:27 | TomW | sjhill: I'll try using one of the 18G IGM U160's in the new box, no sense in throwing them out. |
| 12:49:02 | sjhill | sure |
| 12:49:06 | TomW | It will be interesting stuffing 5 feet of U160 SCSI cabling into one of those boxes! |
| 12:50:46 | TomW | BTW, you can get a second serial port from the FreeTech motherboard. They list is as an IR/DA port in their manual, but it configures as a standard serial port. Then all you need is the correct header / cable combo and mount it on the rear panel. |
| 12:52:09 | TomW | sjhill: http://www.caseoutlet.com/case/2677/CS-2677.html |
| 12:52:21 | TomW | sjhill: my webserver. |
| 12:53:26 | sjhill | TomW: neat |
| 12:53:53 | sjhill | TomW: i'm still using a 75MHz Dell Pentium for my firewall and an old dual PII-266MHz for my webserver |
| 12:54:06 | TomW | it is only a 50W supply though, www.freetech.com has their G168 case which is the same form factor but is a 130W supply. |
| 12:55:22 | TomW | sjhill: heh. I am using a 1100MHz P-III, but I am using VMWare on it to run three virtual machines: DNS+Mail, HTTP, and FTP. The VMWare host is the FireWall. |
| 12:56:23 | TomW | It was an experiment, I don't like the performance of running that many VMWare virtual machines though. I'll change the configuration in the future to run discrete boxes. |
| 12:57:45 | TomW | What I wanted to do was to, again, allow FTP so that webpages could be better maintained by site owners. The SSH stuff was driving them nuts. |
| 12:59:03 | CosmicPenguin | Hello |
| 12:59:13 | sjhill | dude |
| 12:59:16 | TomW | CosmicPenguin: finally wake up? |
| 13:03:11 | TomW | later guys, time to be "productive". :( |
| 13:07:16 | CosmicPenguin | Drive by burning... :) |
| 13:09:10 | sorphin | why hasn't anyone shot lilo yet? |
| 13:10:13 | CosmicPenguin | what did he do? |
| 13:10:28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: the question is, what hasn't he done :P |
| 13:12:32 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: did he come shave your cat or someting? |
| 13:12:50 | sorphin | heh, i wouldn't even wanna be in the same state is lilo :P |
| 13:15:25 | CosmicPenguin | So much hatred for some guy that lets you use his network for free |
| 13:17:43 | sorphin | heh, "his" network? |
| 13:17:50 | sorphin | last i checked, lilo doesn't evne donate a server |
| 13:19:32 | CosmicPenguin | sooo.... I still don't understand.... why would you be angry then? |
| 13:23:41 | CosmicPenguin | Bah - no time for you - this zmodem won't fix itself |
| 13:35:27 | sorphin | it just doesn't like you :P |
| 13:35:41 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: nobody likes me |
| 13:37:21 | sorphin | grins, obviously someone does, if you're engaged (if i remember right) |
| 13:41:31 | sjhill | likes CosmicPenguin |
| 13:41:31 | sjhill | $!#@T!$!@# makefile |
| 13:42:21 | sorphin | uclinux again? |
| 13:47:09 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: thanks... :) |
| 13:47:15 | CosmicPenguin | has to go to register his car |
| 13:47:30 | CosmicPenguin | I'm on 54th south, the place is on 8th north..... |
| 13:47:33 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm...... |
| 13:47:50 | sorphin | should be fun then |
| 13:48:10 | CosmicPenguin | And its raining dogs and cats |
| 13:48:17 | sorphin | even better |
| 13:48:26 | sorphin | what is this vehicle? |
| 13:48:26 | CosmicPenguin | which is a bit messy, and very annoying especially for the aformentioned dogs and cats |
| 13:48:43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you know what I'm like - what kind of car do you think I drive? |
| 13:49:06 | sorphin | has no clue, i don't corelate car vs person, doesn't always match up |
| 13:49:18 | CosmicPenguin | drives a Volvo |
| 13:49:26 | sorphin | wouldn't have guessed |
| 13:49:30 | CosmicPenguin | Really? |
| 13:49:33 | sorphin | really |
| 13:49:40 | sorphin | what model? |
| 13:50:02 | CosmicPenguin | '97 850 Turbo wagon |
| 13:50:14 | sorphin | now that i really wouldn't have guessed ;) |
| 13:50:32 | CosmicPenguin | I love that car, but my whole family hates it... I have no idea why |
| 13:50:41 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, I gotta go.... see you all in a bit |
| 13:50:46 | sorphin | drive safe |
| 13:50:49 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Off to register my car (stupid DMV) |
| 13:51:29 | sorphin | ROTFL.. no way.. i just found your car.. http://www.edgecombs.com/moreinfo.cfm?ProdID=616 |
| 13:52:38 | sorphin | took all of 1 min to find a pic.. not bad for a wagon |
| 13:53:02 | sorphin | and there's the 2 ipv6 mo's |
| 14:11:55 | scanline | is away: breakfast! for great justice! |
| 14:29:25 | scanline | is back (gone 00:17:27) |
| 15:08:02 | sorphin | prp-zzzz: yo POS bitch |
| 15:08:43 | sorphin | bah, sleep is for wussies |
| 15:18:28 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 01:27:39) |
| 15:22:20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: have fun ? |
| 15:22:45 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
| 15:39:07 | samual | how does remote ppp and local ppp work ? |
| 15:39:48 | samual | with each other ? |
| 15:40:43 | sorphin | umm, might i suggest you go to a general unix/linux channel for that? |
| 15:40:51 | sorphin | this isn't one. |
| 15:41:10 | samual | with dial-up as the method? |
| 15:41:30 | sorphin | repeats himself |
| 15:44:31 | Morn | can someone help me with what strace is doing? |
| 15:44:46 | sorphin | Morn: i can try |
| 15:45:27 | Morn | it just prints select(0, NULL, NULL, NULL, {1, 0}) = 0 (timeout |
| 15:45:37 | Morn | over and over |
| 15:45:49 | sorphin | it's waiting, polling a socket |
| 15:45:59 | sorphin | generally |
| 15:46:04 | sorphin | what's this on? |
| 15:46:10 | Morn | why the heck would rpm be doing that? |
| 15:46:16 | sorphin | ewww |
| 15:46:17 | sorphin | rpm |
| 15:46:55 | spse | what does /proc/<pid>/fd/0 point to? |
| 15:47:07 | spse | sory, ignore that |
| 15:47:14 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:47:38 | spse | instint it just using selct as a timer there with no fds |
| 15:48:37 | Morn | it has a boat load of files open |
| 15:49:41 | Morn | hmm, it just installed a package and I got a db4 error Cache flush was unable to complete |
| 15:49:47 | Morn | I think that is bad (tm) |
| 15:51:48 | sorphin | um.. yeah.. prolly |
| 15:51:55 | levi | It's not polling a socket, it's doesn't have anything in the FD_SETs. It's being used as a sub-second sleep or something. |
| 15:52:14 | sorphin | levi: well, i'm 1/2 awake and working, so don't blame me ;p ;) |
| 15:52:30 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: any idea of the timeout period? |
| 15:52:36 | levi | I've been staring at strace output for the last week straight, so I've become all too familiar with it... |
| 15:53:18 | Morn | it doesn't seem to time out |
| 15:53:24 | Morn | I've left in that state for a LONG time |
| 15:53:28 | Morn | then killed it |
| 15:53:40 | levi | Well, the select is timing out after 1 second, I think. |
| 15:53:50 | CosmicPenguin | oh, yeah |
| 15:53:55 | CosmicPenguin | kicks himself in the head |
| 15:55:20 | sorphin | indeed |
| 15:55:45 | levi | I've been tracking down this fun deadlock dealing with socket buffer sizes and telnetd, where both ends block on writes and never recover. |
| 15:57:05 | Morn | I think I fixed it |
| 15:57:14 | Morn | there were these 2 files __db<blah> |
| 15:57:18 | Morn | and I deleted them |
| 15:58:09 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:58:18 | Morn | yep, it's fixed now |
| 15:59:53 | sorphin | andersee: away you evil daemon! away! |
| 16:00:47 | andersee | is away: I'm busy |
| 16:01:09 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:01:13 | andersee | is back (gone 00:00:27) |
| 16:01:16 | sorphin | :P |
| 16:09:09 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: how was your interview last night - did anyone record it? |
| 16:11:01 | Russ|werk | andersee: any chance to integrate the udhcp patches? |
| 16:22:56 | andersee | Russ|werk: I'll try to get that this week. I'm leaving for a few days of vacation, but I'll have my laptop |
| 16:23:03 | Russ|werk | ah |
| 16:23:10 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: went just fine. Dunno if anyone recorded it... |
| 16:25:51 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: mmm.... vacation. Anywhere fun? |
| 16:26:03 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: someplace where its not raining, perhaps? |
| 16:28:22 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: vegas. per your suggestion |
| 16:32:26 | sorphin | andersee: be careful |
| 16:33:34 | andersee | sorphin: Just seeing the shows... |
| 16:33:34 | sorphin | where you gonna stay? |
| 16:33:39 | andersee | doesn't gamble |
| 16:33:40 | sorphin | ha |
| 16:33:43 | sorphin | umm |
| 16:33:53 | sorphin | i didn't lose $800 of the $850 by gambling :P |
| 16:34:16 | sorphin | anyways, good luck actually getting tkts to the shows :P |
| 16:34:46 | sorphin | apparently unless your name is CosmicPenguin, cirque is sold out |
| 16:34:52 | andersee | We're bringing the kids, so we'll be mostly sticking to the free stuff... Let the kids see lions, tigers, and bears and they are happy. |
| 16:34:52 | sorphin | usually |
| 16:34:57 | sorphin | ah |
| 16:35:13 | sorphin | then you'll wanna see sigfried and roy's secret garden thing |
| 16:35:26 | sorphin | tisn't free, but ya see all their animals, and see dolphins |
| 16:36:03 | sorphin | and there's a glass cage while walking through the hotel that always has a tiger in it, and i think MGM keeps a couple lions around |
| 16:36:27 | andersee | That'll work |
| 16:37:23 | CosmicPenguin | last time I was there, they had lion cubs at the MGM |
| 16:37:36 | sorphin | yup |
| 16:37:48 | sorphin | and there's always circus circus for the circus stuff for the kids |
| 16:39:17 | andersee | sorphin: yup, thats where we're going. |
| 16:39:36 | sorphin | if you ever go w/o the kids, don't stay there ;) |
| 16:39:36 | andersee | sorphin: The kids should like that |
| 16:43:15 | sorphin | andersee: just don't take busybox along ;p |
| 16:43:22 | sorphin | you're supposed to be there to ENJOY yourself |
| 16:43:48 | andersee | sorphin: hehe |
| 16:43:51 | andersee | is outta here |
| 16:43:56 | sorphin | enjoy |
| 16:43:59 | sorphin | be safe |
| 16:51:11 | scanline | is away: ZzZzZzzz.... |
| 18:17:13 | sorphin | prpplague: bout time biotch |
| 18:17:13 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:17:20 | kergoth` | hey prpplague |
| 18:17:21 | prpplague | sorphin: ya ya |
| 18:17:25 | sorphin | prpplague: btw |
| 18:17:37 | prpplague | kergoth`: hows life at digi today? |
| 18:17:42 | sorphin | i sit in here w/ the main cust svc frame engineer here |
| 18:17:52 | kergoth` | prpplague: shitty as hell |
| 18:17:57 | sorphin | and he told me if you gave us any ckt ids of shit you're having probs w/.. |
| 18:17:58 | prpplague | kergoth`: rofl |
| 18:17:59 | sorphin | grins |
| 18:18:14 | kergoth` | prpplague: support site b0rked, web site b0rked, search engine b0rked |
| 18:18:50 | sorphin | prpplague: and he aws quite serious, after i mentioned that you curse our frame network daily ;) |
| 18:19:03 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 18:20:39 | prpplague | sorphin: tell him, to stop hiring beauty school drop outs to work in the provisioning department i won't have a problem, lol |
| 18:20:48 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:21:13 | sorphin | come up w/ some ckt ids of anything that's having a prob and we'll look at it. *shrug* |
| 18:22:15 | prpplague | sorphin: we rarely have problems after the circuit is up, its mainly when we try to get the line up for the first time |
| 18:22:23 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:22:32 | sorphin | well, that's the dept i *used* to work in :P |
| 18:24:12 | prpplague | kergoth`: well i'd wish you some lucky on things getting better, but lets get real, mine sure at getting better and from what i can tell neither is your's! lol |
| 18:24:26 | kergoth` | prpplague: yeah, gotta stay realistic |
| 18:24:27 | prpplague | s/at/aint |
| 18:24:35 | sorphin | and mine is? :P |
| 18:24:52 | prpplague | sorphin: ya but you aren't and cool, AND you work for worldcom |
| 18:24:55 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 18:24:56 | prpplague | sorphin: jk |
| 18:25:02 | sorphin | glares |
| 18:25:15 | sorphin | makes SURE that if reincartation is real |
| 18:25:26 | sorphin | you come back as either file or as an IBM POS :P |
| 18:25:48 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, just kidding around |
| 18:25:51 | sjhill | strips |
| 18:25:53 | kergoth` | if you make me come back as a portserver, i swear to god i'll haunt you indefinately |
| 18:25:57 | kergoth` | !@#% |
| 18:26:01 | sorphin | kergoth`zzz: don't tempt me |
| 18:26:03 | file | nooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 18:26:11 | sjhill | strips his binaries |
| 18:26:15 | sorphin | haha |
| 18:26:28 | sorphin | sjhill: careful, i think you were turning file on |
| 18:26:40 | sjhill | heh |
| 18:26:41 | sorphin | :P |
| 18:27:10 | prpplague | ok its 2:30 time for a beer, lol |
| 18:27:26 | sjhill | prpplague: drink one for me dude |
| 18:27:33 | sorphin | kergoth`: i'll make sure to have you come back as something simple like an ether tranceiver |
| 18:27:43 | sorphin | that atleast works |
| 18:27:54 | sorphin | has a couple of those from digi |
| 18:27:56 | sorphin | work fine |
| 18:28:16 | CosmicPenguin | I like hardware that rhymes |
| 18:28:40 | sorphin | kergoth`: i'd never inflict being a portserver on anyone ;) |
| 18:28:48 | sjhill | lol |
| 18:29:01 | sorphin | hmm.. as for cosmic, i think i'll make him come back as a copy of microwindows |
| 18:29:47 | sorphin | sjhill: and you'll just be a bcm chip in some ugly chick's cable box ;) |
| 18:30:03 | sjhill | deserves it |
| 18:30:05 | sjhill | ;) |
| 18:33:32 | kergoth` | sorphin: whats funny as hell, is those ether trancievers that *work* were part of one of hte acquisitions we sold off, and we kept the crap |
| 18:33:53 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:34:13 | sorphin | kergoth`: sounds about right ;) |
| 18:34:16 | CosmicPenguin | back as a copy of microwindows? I would be incomplete and buggy, but at lest I would be small |
| 18:34:29 | CosmicPenguin | ARGH! ASH "read" doesn't support the -n charater |
| 18:34:29 | kergoth` | hehe |
| 18:34:38 | CosmicPenguin | s/charater/paramater/ |
| 18:35:48 | sorphin | out of boredom just started seti running on the U5 and the SS20 |
| 18:36:11 | sorphin | actually wanted to run the merrseine prime search |
| 18:36:34 | sorphin | but their client source isn't C and their binary won't run on the SS20 |
| 18:38:54 | prpplague | sorphin: can i come back as a cheap multimeter? |
| 18:39:55 | sjhill | increases prpplague 's karma |
| 18:40:30 | sorphin | prpplague: on who's bench? |
| 18:40:50 | sjhill | sorphin: a sexy lady engineer's bench of course |
| 18:41:04 | sorphin | sjhill: well, if he gets to that means you can't |
| 18:41:35 | sorphin | andersee will of course be forced to come back as busybox |
| 18:41:35 | CosmicPenguin | THe hard part there will be finding a sexy lady electrical engineer |
| 18:41:45 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i've seen/known a few |
| 18:41:58 | sorphin | hell, i was in class w/ a few |
| 18:42:03 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: yeah, that's true...prpplague doesn't have enough karma for that |
| 18:42:12 | sjhill | sorphin: me too...*gah* |
| 18:42:30 | | prpplague has neutral karma |
| 18:42:30 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: karma prpplague |
| 18:42:36 | sorphin | hmm |
| 18:42:41 | sjhill | "let's take turn blowing each other's fuses" ... whoops did i just say that? |
| 18:42:42 | | sorphin has neutral karma |
| 18:42:42 | sorphin | ibot: karma sorphin |
| 18:43:05 | | sjhill has neutral karma |
| 18:43:05 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill |
| 18:43:14 | | sjhill: i'm not following you... |
| 18:43:14 | sjhill | ibot: sjhill has bad karma |
| 18:43:14 | CosmicPenguin | My first year of CS, there were at least 30 women, and 15 good looking ones |
| 18:43:15 | sorphin | ibot: sjhill++ |
| 18:43:27 | | sjhill has karma of 1 |
| 18:43:27 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill |
| 18:43:30 | CosmicPenguin | By my senior year, the number in my class had dwindiled to 4/0 |
| 18:43:31 | sjhill | ah |
| 18:43:53 | sorphin | sj : i just increased your karma :P |
| 18:43:56 | | sjhill--2 has neutral karma |
| 18:43:56 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill--2 |
| 18:44:03 | | sjhill-- has neutral karma |
| 18:44:03 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill-- |
| 18:44:07 | | sjhill-- has neutral karma |
| 18:44:07 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill-- |
| 18:44:10 | sorphin | stop it :P |
| 18:44:16 | sjhill | lol |
| 18:44:22 | | bzflag has karma of 3036873698723 |
| 18:44:22 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: karma BZFlag |
| 18:44:28 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 18:44:30 | kergoth` | hah |
| 18:44:32 | sjhill | whoa |
| 18:44:34 | | kergoth has karma of 13 |
| 18:44:34 | kergoth` | ibot karma kergoth |
| 18:44:38 | | kergoth` has neutral karma |
| 18:44:38 | sorphin | ibot: karma kergoth` |
| 18:44:45 | | file has neutral karma |
| 18:44:45 | file | ibot: karma file |
| 18:44:45 | | sjhill=423423 has neutral karma |
| 18:44:45 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill=423423 |
| 18:44:50 | sjhill | fsck |
| 18:44:54 | sorphin | sjhill: um... no |
| 18:44:58 | | sjhill 423423 has neutral karma |
| 18:44:58 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill 423423 |
| 18:45:07 | sorphin | not how it works steve :P |
| 18:45:09 | file | bleh |
| 18:45:12 | sjhill | *whack* *whack* *whack* |
| 18:45:17 | sorphin | ibot: file-- |
| 18:45:22 | sorphin | :P |
| 18:45:25 | | help has karma of -6 |
| 18:45:25 | sjhill | ibot: karma help |
| 18:45:30 | | file has karma of -1 |
| 18:45:30 | sorphin | ibot: karma file |
| 18:45:33 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:45:33 | CosmicPenguin | ibot help karma |
| 18:45:41 | file | ibot: file++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 18:45:45 | | file has karma of -1 |
| 18:45:45 | file | ibot: karma file |
| 18:45:49 | CosmicPenguin | hah! |
| 18:45:52 | sorphin | ibot: cosmicpenguin++ |
| 18:45:54 | file | bah I can't |
| 18:45:55 | CosmicPenguin | started a bad trend |
| 18:46:04 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: see? i do like you :P |
| 18:46:10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thanks... :) |
| 18:46:12 | | cosmicpenguin has karma of 2 |
| 18:46:12 | sorphin | ibot: karma cosmicpenguin |
| 18:46:40 | CosmicPenguin | What do you mean I can't get the job? I have an Openprojects.net karma of 2!!!! |
| 18:46:44 | sorphin | haha |
| 18:46:53 | sorphin | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 18:47:05 | | russ has karma of -1 |
| 18:47:05 | sorphin | ibot: karma russ |
| 18:47:09 | sorphin | awww |
| 18:47:15 | sorphin | ibot: russ++ |
| 18:47:19 | | russ has neutral karma |
| 18:47:19 | sorphin | ibot: karma russ |
| 18:47:26 | file | ibot: sorphin------------------------------- |
| 18:47:29 | | sorphin has karma of -1 |
| 18:47:29 | file | ibot: karma sorphin |
| 18:47:32 | sorphin | file: um.. shithead |
| 18:47:46 | sorphin | try: ibot: help karma |
| 18:47:49 | sorphin | :P |
| 18:47:59 | Russ|werk | ibot: sorphin++ |
| 18:48:04 | sjhill | ibot: help karma |
| 18:48:09 | sorphin | file: now sod off and go do your homework |
| 18:48:14 | Russ|werk | ibot: karma-- |
| 18:48:28 | sjhill | ibot: karm sjhill-- |
| 18:48:35 | | sjhill-- has neutral karma |
| 18:48:35 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill-- |
| 18:48:37 | sorphin | ibot: ibot-- |
| 18:48:38 | | sjhill-- has neutral karma |
| 18:48:38 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill-- |
| 18:48:43 | sorphin | sjhill: no |
| 18:48:47 | sorphin | it's: |
| 18:48:58 | sorphin | ibot: <name>++/-- |
| 18:49:00 | | sjhill -- has neutral karma |
| 18:49:00 | sjhill | ibot: karma sjhill -- |
| 18:49:10 | | sjhill: what? |
| 18:49:10 | sjhill | ibot: you little bastard |
| 18:49:33 | | sjhill: excuse me? |
| 18:49:33 | sjhill | ibot: take your 'don't karma yourself' and cram mit |
| 18:49:47 | sjhill | i can't believe this, i'm fighting with a fscking bot |
| 18:50:19 | | Russ|werk: excuse me? |
| 18:50:19 | Russ|werk | ibot: IT'S A RUM THING, POKEY... THE SMOKE DETECTORS SAID THE CONSERVATORY WAS ON FIRE! AND THEN I FIND YOU HERE!! |
| 18:50:39 | | ...but russ is ibot's big hunk of man-love... |
| 18:50:39 | sorphin | ibot: russ is on crack. |
| 18:50:45 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 18:50:54 | sorphin | almost falls out of his chair |
| 18:51:06 | | ...but russ is ibot's big hunk of man-love... |
| 18:51:06 | Russ|werk | ibot: no, russ is on crack |
| 18:51:06 | sorphin | "big hunk of man love" eh? |
| 18:51:08 | sjhill | that's awesome |
| 18:51:09 | | ...but russ is ibot's big hunk of man-love... |
| 18:51:09 | Russ|werk | ibot: no, russ is on crack |
| 18:51:15 | | Russ|werk: I forgot russ |
| 18:51:15 | Russ|werk | ibot: forget russ |
| 18:51:19 | | OK, Russ|werk. |
| 18:51:19 | Russ|werk | ibot: russ is on crack |
| 18:51:23 | Russ|werk | much better |
| 18:51:25 | Russ|werk | russ++ |
| 18:52:00 | | sjhill++ has neutral karma |
| 18:52:00 | twit | ibot: karma sjhill++ |
| 18:52:05 | Russ|werk | wonders why str r1, [r0, #GPCR] would cause his board not to boot |
| 18:52:06 | | sjhill++ has neutral karma |
| 18:52:06 | twit | ibot: karma sjhill++ |
| 18:52:52 | prpplague | sjhill: just finished reading back, lol, a sexy engineer would be a problem |
| 18:53:21 | sorphin | sjhill: that's not how you do it |
| 18:53:29 | sorphin | you don't put karma in the line |
| 18:53:37 | sjhill | ah |
| 18:53:44 | sorphin | you'd do: ibot: sjhill++ |
| 18:53:50 | twit | ibot: sjhill++ |
| 18:54:20 | twit | whoa, looks like he went to lunch |
| 18:54:23 | sorphin | and i fixed your ibot entry |
| 18:54:25 | sorphin | nope |
| 18:54:28 | sorphin | he doesn't reply |
| 18:54:31 | | sjhill has karma of 3 |
| 18:54:31 | twit | ibot: karma sjhill |
| 18:54:35 | twit | ah |
| 18:54:37 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:54:44 | | sorphin has neutral karma |
| 18:54:44 | sorphin | ibot: karma sorphin |
| 18:54:44 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:45 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:46 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:47 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:47 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:48 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:49 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:50 | twit | ibot: sjhill-- |
| 18:54:51 | sorphin | stop spamming |
| 18:54:52 | | sjhill has karma of -5 |
| 18:54:52 | twit | ibot: karma sjhill |
| 18:54:59 | twit | much better |
| 18:54:59 | CosmicPenguin | loads windows 95 against his will |
| 18:55:02 | sorphin | /m it :P |
| 18:55:03 | Russ|werk | twit: you are pushing it... |
| 18:55:09 | sjhill | ah |
| 18:55:21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: my condolences |
| 18:55:24 | sorphin | why? |
| 18:55:35 | sorphin | in a masochistic mood? |
| 18:55:37 | sjhill | Russ|werk: sorry ;) |
| 18:56:01 | prpplague | has been winblows free for 4 years on this past july 27th |
| 18:56:02 | sorphin | sjhill: so what's the j? |
| 18:56:03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I need DOS |
| 18:56:10 | sjhill | sorphin: James |
| 18:56:14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
| 18:56:22 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: there are other ways of getting dos you know |
| 18:56:25 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: flash? |
| 18:56:40 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: DOC |
| 18:56:46 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: how about i send you a DOS boot floppy image that i use to flash my PC bios's? |
| 18:56:50 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: you don't use grub? |
| 18:56:58 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, but it had to be on a laptop hard drive, and since I had this one laying around |
| 18:57:06 | sorphin | ahh |
| 18:57:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: why not load drdos or freedos? |
| 18:57:06 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: they won't let me... :( |
| 18:57:07 | sorphin | explains it then |
| 18:57:22 | sorphin | corporate meanies |
| 18:57:57 | CosmicPenguin | And this idiot^H^H^H^H^Hclient that we have can't figure out how to use dd, so I need to use the M Systems utilities to get an image, and they are DOS only |
| 18:58:08 | sorphin | hopes this drive that showed up today works as i hope it will |
| 18:58:19 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: ya know |
| 18:58:37 | sorphin | i've yet to be able to strip the msystems crap off a getimage'd image |
| 18:58:43 | sorphin | annoying as fsck |
| 18:58:58 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - they put something propriatary in there, huh? |
| 18:59:13 | sorphin | something like that |
| 18:59:34 | sorphin | nother nice annoyance is how qnx works in a DOC/flash device |
| 18:59:45 | CosmicPenguin | A 16MB DOC gets an image of 16,416,416 bytres, so they are obviously doing some wierdness |
| 18:59:45 | sorphin | since you can't mount a loopfs partitioned |
| 18:59:48 | sorphin | it SUCKS |
| 18:59:58 | sorphin | cuz qnx images are partitioned |
| 19:00:06 | CosmicPenguin | ok, rebooting into Linux to get the image and send it |
| 19:00:41 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: I really wish I could dump NFTL though |
| 19:00:50 | Russ|werk | I really only need grub, some raw sectors, and NFTL |
| 19:01:07 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: I would kill for a JFFS style filesystem right now |
| 19:01:17 | Russ|werk | jffs2 should work on those afaik |
| 19:01:24 | sorphin | i haven't messed around on my DOC box in a while |
| 19:01:24 | Russ|werk | I don't think yaffs is ready yet though |
| 19:01:36 | sorphin | WebSurfer Pro |
| 19:01:39 | sorphin | aka |
| 19:01:42 | Russ|werk | I really dislike NAND flash for what I'm doing |
| 19:01:49 | sorphin | slightly stripped down appliance |
| 19:02:17 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: really? I got the impression that JFFS2 wasn't quite working on these |
| 19:02:29 | Russ|werk | I keep hearing stuff on the mtd mailing list |
| 19:02:32 | Russ|werk | are you subscribed? |
| 19:03:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've had problems using the msystems getimage utility before when using a linux mtd on the DOC |
| 19:03:52 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: no - I checked the archives and infradead.org though |
| 19:04:07 | Russ|werk | take a look at the mtd cvs |
| 19:04:14 | Russ|werk | if jffs2 isn't there yet, its really close |
| 19:04:31 | Russ|werk | I haven't touch the actualy msystems utility of driver for a while |
| 19:04:44 | Russ|werk | s/of/or/ |
| 19:05:12 | sorphin | Russ|werk: infradead has been dead every time i've looked at it |
| 19:05:25 | Russ|werk | sorphin: is that an attempt at humor? |
| 19:05:59 | sorphin | no |
| 19:06:04 | sorphin | i was being serious |
| 19:06:09 | sorphin | i never saw any updates |
| 19:06:24 | Russ|werk | oh, the webpage no |
| 19:06:31 | Russ|werk | the cvs, yes |
| 19:06:34 | Russ|werk | there is also a cvs commit mailing list |
| 19:06:34 | sorphin | ah |
| 19:06:59 | as | Evnin all. |
| 19:07:08 | sorphin | as: lo |
| 19:07:23 | as_ | sorphin :] |
| 19:08:04 | Russ|werk | very odd indeed |
| 19:08:17 | Russ|werk | if I clear this gpio, it never makes it into C code... |
| 19:08:36 | Russ|werk | if I clear it, then set it again, the LED comes back on, but it still never makes it into C code |
| 19:08:46 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:08:59 | Russ|werk | er... |
| 19:09:28 | Russ|werk | ..and then after 2 seconds, it turns back off, what up with that |
| 19:09:33 | Russ|werk | thi board is whack, but what is broken |
| 19:13:43 | Russ|werk | hmm...3.3V is dropping off to 2.8V |
| 19:13:51 | Russ|werk | that could be a problem |
| 19:15:01 | sorphin | maybe |
| 19:18:58 | sorphin | and there's the karma king himself |
| 19:42:53 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... |
| 19:43:24 | Russ|werk | hmm...nm, the voltage isn't dropping off |
| 19:43:30 | Russ|werk | but this board won't do an endless blink |
| 19:48:55 | CosmicPenguin | I wonder if anyone would get mad if I set up the BB ash 'read' command to read raw text from stdin instead of buffered text |
| 19:51:11 | sjhill | whacks head against desk a few times |
| 19:52:06 | sjhill | ah, much better |
| 20:35:49 | file | hey LIM |
| 20:38:12 | LIM | hi file |
| 22:16:55 | CosmicPenguin | is away: offffffffffff |
| 22:58:31 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: uh oh, the weasel got out again ;) |
| 23:00:03 | LIM | grills the weasel...mmm good |
| 23:01:53 | sorphin | hehe |
| 23:08:24 | LIM | sorphin: you have time to help me with that keyboard Q I had about a day ago? |
| 23:08:59 | LIM | or are you busy... |
| 23:44:09 | prpplague | howdy all |
| 23:44:23 | prpplague | anyone looked at hacking any of the leapfrog products? |
| 23:44:27 | as_ | prp :] |
| 23:44:59 | prpplague | as_: hows it going? |
| 23:45:00 | MonMotha | prpplague: interesting idea... |
| 23:45:15 | prpplague | http://www.leapfrog.com/products/prdt_quantum.jhtml?id=iquest |
| 23:45:42 | as_ | With the regard to the tuxscreen Ive been amazingly short of time. |
| 23:45:56 | prpplague | as_: ya meeee to |
| 23:46:17 | as_ | I have partial dump of the next box I'm hacking before IVe finished the last one. |
| 23:46:48 | prpplague | as_: lol |
| 23:47:08 | prpplague | i wonder if i can get one locally...... |
| 23:47:22 | MonMotha | btw, if anyone wants to sell their Tux, I've got a buyer |
| 23:47:27 | MonMotha | willing to pay $110 + shipping even |
| 23:47:34 | MonMotha | so you'd make a $11 profit |
| 23:48:29 | prpplague | MonMotha: maybe for a $1010, lol |
| 23:48:34 | MonMotha | heh |
| 23:48:41 | MonMotha | in binary or decimal? :) |
| 23:49:16 | prpplague | dec |
| 23:49:17 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:49:21 | MonMotha | darnit :) |
| 23:49:29 | | MonMotha: sorry... |
| 23:49:29 | MonMotha | ibot convert 1010b to decimal |
| 23:49:34 | MonMotha | stupid bot |
| 23:49:42 | MonMotha | it's 18 |
| 23:49:45 | sorphin | haha |
| 23:49:47 | MonMotha | quicker to just do it in my head |
| 23:49:50 | sorphin | you'll sell for $18 ? |
| 23:50:51 | MonMotha | not I |
| 23:52:39 | as_ | I'll try that on my tax return form, but I doubt even they would think 1010 was 18. Worth a try though. |
| 23:52:51 | LIM | damn MMJ ports...grrr |
| 23:52:58 | scanline | is back (gone 07:01:46) |
| 23:53:24 | as_ | I'll put it in the section I justify using hexidecimal to use less space. |
| 23:55:32 | LIM | anyone have a spare MMJ to DB9 for a VT320 terminal to connect ot a PC serial? |