| 02:30:45 | MonMotha | note to self...when using 5.0V Vcc devices, don't hit the 12V line |
| 03:24:52 | LIM | eek |
| 09:29:37 | scanline | is away: ZzzzZzZz.... |
| 13:09:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:09:43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey you know a good site to dl rhat8? |
| 13:23:37 | prpplague | sjhill: morning |
| 13:26:32 | sjhill | howdy prpplague |
| 13:26:49 | sjhill | ok, where the heck is this 'buildroot' thing? |
| 13:27:48 | | hmmm... buildroot is a cool system for building embedded root file systems and can be found at http://uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/buildroot/ |
| 13:27:48 | prpplague | ibot: buildroot |
| 13:28:09 | prpplague | kergoth: morning |
| 13:28:11 | prpplague | kergoth: you get cvs updated? |
| 13:31:18 | sjhill | prpplague: thx, how does this differ from 'uClinux'? |
| 13:33:16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: other than redhat itself? |
| 13:45:48 | prpplague | sjhill: well the buildroot is really just kindofa more flexible "make" system with the goal of creating the a kernel and root fs, as far as how it differs from uclinux, i'm not sure because i'm still uclinux handicaped |
| 13:46:11 | sorphin | prpplague: hey, it's mr POS ;) |
| 13:46:43 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
| 13:46:55 | sorphin | allo |
| 13:58:16 | prpplague | sjhill: you going to use buildroot for your mips board? |
| 13:58:23 | sjhill | yup |
| 13:58:26 | sjhill | well, try anyway |
| 13:58:35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: had to defend pixil last night in #zaurus |
| 13:59:42 | prpplague | sjhill: if your package will be going through alot of reversion and development buildroot is a great way of keeping things up todate and flexible |
| 14:01:39 | legodude | hey sorphin |
| 14:01:45 | legodude | no good from irix-land |
| 14:01:48 | sjhill | prpplague: man, this thing is downloading a ton of stuff |
| 14:01:55 | legodude | fx.64 won't load from my overlay cd |
| 14:02:05 | sjhill | moves back to uClinux for a bit |
| 14:02:41 | sorphin | legodude: for me it was x_eoe |
| 14:03:31 | legodude | I can load sash fine |
| 14:03:36 | legodude | then get errors loading fx |
| 14:03:42 | legodude | I'm not sure if it's scsi issues |
| 14:03:46 | legodude | as I don't have termination |
| 14:03:56 | legodude | or if it's corrupt cd |
| 14:04:05 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:04:06 | legodude | I'll end up doing a stupid net install probably |
| 14:04:14 | sorphin | you don't need to load sash 1st :P |
| 14:04:41 | legodude | for cd install you do |
| 14:04:43 | sorphin | you will however have probs w/ a few packages from the overlays :P |
| 14:04:47 | legodude | at least according to Ian Mapleson's site |
| 14:04:58 | sorphin | esp x_eoewhatever.sw |
| 14:05:08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you had to defend pixil - who is evil enough to bad mouth dead projects? |
| 14:05:16 | legodude | I might download .17 overlays and use those instead of whatever I have |
| 14:05:20 | CosmicPenguin | They won - they put a whole division out of business... :) |
| 14:06:16 | sorphin | legodude: was trying to figure out how to best do that.. i found out the hard way too that you do from, then open, open, open :P |
| 14:06:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: bunch of qt yahoo's |
| 14:06:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 14:07:10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, we could've beaten them - they know that we had the size advantage, but alas, they had the marketing skills |
| 14:07:35 | CosmicPenguin | Oh well |
| 14:08:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, that seems to be the pattern of computer tech, not whos got better software but whos got a better pr/marketing staff |
| 14:08:27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I am trying to get the window manager open sourced so I can put it on the tuxscreen |
| 14:08:32 | legodude | tech quality doesn't matter a damn bit |
| 14:08:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that would be nice |
| 14:08:59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its all fltk/flnx right? |
| 14:09:30 | legodude | naps |
| 14:13:33 | sorphin | legodude: don't remember if it was you or who it was that i was debating dvd-r/rw w/, but as i noticed last night, the dvr-105/avr05 is due soon (that's 4x dvd-r, 2x dvd-rw) |
| 14:14:42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the window manage isn't |
| 14:15:31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the window manager is pure C, the the rest of the apps are all C++. I doubt that I will be able to get the apps open sourced, but I am real close to getting approval for the window manager, the XML parser and possibly the IPC server |
| 14:16:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats a real shame about the apps, i think with it being open sourced it would give a real boost to using fltk instead of qt |
| 14:16:41 | sjhill | *sigh* uClinux doesn't run any 'configure' scripts !@#$%!%!# |
| 14:16:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we really need a good Opensourced alternative to qt |
| 14:18:07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lots of programming went into Qtopia though - its highly doubtful that any other company will have the resources to match that and to stick on a completely open license to boot |
| 14:19:11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed, but i would suspect that if we had a good core to start with, many ppl would support it |
| 14:21:05 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: those QT folks tend to be very territorial - of course, most of the guys in #zaurus know that their back is up against the wall |
| 14:22:25 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm.... when did familiar replace Opie with GPE? |
| 14:22:29 | CosmicPenguin | is out of the loop |
| 14:22:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, there are alway ppl like me who will probably never use qt |
| 14:22:47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just recently |
| 14:23:18 | kergoth | prpplague: <pester> Add X build to OZ buildroot </pester> |
| 14:23:20 | kergoth | prpplague: :) |
| 14:23:23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the guys on the gpe project has been doing great stuff, i just don't care for gtk, but i'd rather use gtk that qt |
| 14:23:27 | kergoth | prpplague: i'll sync cvs in a few, thanks for the pester |
| 14:23:42 | kergoth | yawns |
| 14:23:43 | prpplague | kergoth: hey i wanted to last night, but someone didn't sync last night |
| 14:23:45 | kergoth | hehe |
| 14:23:46 | kergoth | yeah yeah |
| 14:23:51 | kergoth | sleep = good |
| 14:24:12 | prpplague | throws kergoth caffine spiked granola bar |
| 14:24:58 | kergoth | mm |
| 14:25:24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we've been trying to build gtk-2.0 under Microwindows.... its like pulling teeth out of a hungry alligator suffering from hemroids |
| 14:25:36 | CosmicPenguin | With no anethesia |
| 14:25:49 | prpplague | thank you for that metnal image |
| 14:27:30 | kergoth | shudders and slams his mt dew |
| 14:28:03 | sjhill | kergoth: feel like a real main now? |
| 14:28:08 | sjhill | s/main/man/ |
| 14:28:42 | sorphin | sleep? whassat? |
| 14:32:14 | prpplague | sorphin: you know...that thing that normal ppl do at night |
| 14:32:27 | kergoth | normal ppl? |
| 14:32:32 | sorphin | oh, you mean what i didn't do last night? |
| 14:32:34 | kergoth | I dont think i've ever met a so-called 'normal' person |
| 14:32:36 | kergoth | :) |
| 14:32:37 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh, no wait thats sex |
| 14:32:52 | sorphin | glares at the POS whore |
| 14:33:10 | sorphin | now listen here you file wannabe |
| 14:33:22 | sjhill | lol |
| 14:33:22 | sorphin | ;) |
| 14:34:49 | sorphin | sjhill: so how's things at bcm? |
| 14:34:57 | sorphin | or rather |
| 14:34:59 | sorphin | in bcm land |
| 14:35:02 | sjhill | sorphin: oh....they suck right now |
| 14:35:05 | sorphin | since you telecommute |
| 14:35:12 | sorphin | whys that? |
| 14:35:33 | sjhill | 'cause i'm doing this uClinux build crap for a customer and it has to be done today and nothing is working |
| 14:35:50 | sorphin | oops :P |
| 14:35:56 | sorphin | blame andersee |
| 14:36:04 | sorphin | it's always his fault if there's a uC in the name |
| 14:36:13 | sjhill | nah, uClibc is fine |
| 14:36:21 | sorphin | irrelevant |
| 14:36:24 | sjhill | uClinux's busybox is out of date and i had to hack it |
| 14:36:25 | sorphin | it's always his fault if there's a uC in the name <---- |
| 14:36:32 | sorphin | *always* |
| 14:36:37 | sorphin | doesn't matter if he wrote it or not |
| 14:36:40 | sorphin | ;) |
| 14:36:52 | sjhill | it appears no one has ever built uClinux for anything other than ARM |
| 14:36:54 | sjhill | !#$%#!@%# |
| 14:37:03 | sorphin | well, i've never built it at all, so... |
| 14:37:03 | sjhill | has a potty mouth today |
| 14:37:10 | sorphin | fscking A |
| 14:37:23 | sjhill | heh |
| 14:37:46 | sorphin | you don't wanna know the lame thing my ex gf used to say if i said fscking A (w/ a u instead of s) |
| 14:38:03 | sjhill | sorphin: sure we do |
| 14:38:14 | sorphin | "fsck a B it has more holes" |
| 14:38:26 | sjhill | gah |
| 14:38:31 | sorphin | exactly |
| 14:38:44 | sorphin | told ya that ya wouldn't wanna know |
| 14:39:31 | kergoth | hah |
| 14:39:38 | kergoth | thatd get annoying |
| 14:39:48 | sorphin | oh, it did |
| 14:39:50 | sorphin | trust me |
| 14:40:10 | sorphin | she was good in bed atleast |
| 14:40:18 | kergoth | well thats some consolation |
| 14:40:33 | CosmicPenguin | thinks that netcraft is down |
| 14:40:38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: good |
| 14:40:46 | sorphin | i'm tired of them scanning my damn webserver |
| 14:40:46 | CosmicPenguin | oops - it just reimerged |
| 14:41:04 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: you gotta keep a close watch on those IIS boxes... :) |
| 14:41:06 | sorphin | netcraft needs to permanently oops |
| 14:41:14 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i already know where they all are |
| 14:41:23 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: they all try and codered/nimda me daily |
| 14:41:45 | sorphin | has been meaning to put in that perl script |
| 14:41:56 | sorphin | to send back the command to shut down the offending windows box |
| 14:43:02 | sorphin | on a different note |
| 14:43:09 | sorphin | bought an xbox yesterday to hack on |
| 14:44:58 | CosmicPenguin | when your ISP sends you an unsoliticted report on how unhackable they are, thats probably a bad sign |
| 14:44:58 | sjhill | wishes he had money to blow |
| 14:45:17 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, i'm gonna be down to low funds soon |
| 14:45:38 | sorphin | after bills, this xbox, 1-2 SunPCI II cards @ 165 each |
| 14:50:54 | sorphin | starting to wonder if i should take mine back.. it has a philips dvd drive... |
| 14:55:19 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... maybe I should put an Ipod on my christmas list |
| 14:55:59 | levi | I just got an iPod. I love it. |
| 14:56:35 | sorphin | levi: were you the one i was debating dvd-r w/ ? |
| 14:56:55 | levi | sorphin: Nope. |
| 14:56:55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: speaking of iis server, anyone know some good exploits? i've tracked a spamer down...... |
| 14:57:13 | sjhill | prpplague: did you want to build uClinux for MIPS? |
| 14:57:13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: is he patched for nimba, etc? |
| 14:57:34 | CosmicPenguin | s/nimba/nimda/ |
| 14:57:42 | CosmicPenguin | apparently has The Lion King on the brain |
| 14:59:40 | sjhill | prpplague: i highly suggest that you don't until i put a ton of patches in |
| 14:59:50 | sjhill | uClinux sucks rocks |
| 15:01:27 | sjhill | i'm pretty sure i'll need an instrument to commit suicide with by the end of today |
| 15:04:59 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: I've got a Windows 3.1 hard drive here - is that a sufficent device? :) |
| 15:12:02 | prpplague | sjhill: ya, but not had time yet, i'm still working on the zaurus |
| 15:12:27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: based on what i've seen probably not |
| 15:16:13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not that I would recommend anything, but..... *wink* |
| 15:17:40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: if he really wants to kill himself, let him work at your place for a day ;) |
| 15:18:06 | sorphin | that'll drive him so nuts, he'll walk into traffic |
| 15:18:44 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no doubt |
| 15:19:21 | CosmicPenguin | I would walk into traffic, but I just don't have the motivation |
| 15:19:38 | sorphin | yup. censoft drains the life outta ya eh? ;) |
| 15:20:24 | CosmicPenguin | No, its not that bad really - good place to work, nice hours, good dress code, beer on Fridays.. :) |
| 15:20:57 | sorphin | good dress code must mean casual |
| 15:27:34 | sorphin | andersee: well speak of the devil and he appears |
| 15:27:37 | sorphin | grins |
| 15:27:50 | sorphin | andersee: hey satan, what's shaken? *grin* |
| 15:28:29 | prpplague | kills a chicken and lights candles to send back the codepoet daemon |
| 15:28:44 | sorphin | mmmmmm chicken |
| 15:28:56 | sorphin | <homer simpson drool> |
| 15:29:32 | andersee | sorphin: morning |
| 15:29:43 | andersee | sorphin: Anything evil I can do for you? |
| 15:29:59 | sorphin | nah, busybox is evil enough for the world |
| 15:30:06 | andersee | sorphin: Flood, famine, pesilence? |
| 15:30:12 | CosmicPenguin | New release going out - so they have the laminator going in the back room - it goes through the heating vents, and smells just like burning PCB in my office |
| 15:30:12 | sorphin | tho poor sjhill is fighting w/ uClinux |
| 15:30:20 | CosmicPenguin | I keep looking around for something on fire |
| 15:31:02 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you mean censoft actually sells shrinkwrap software? scary.. |
| 15:31:13 | sorphin | andersee: he's trying to mips it and it's not mipsing |
| 15:32:24 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: its a successful business |
| 15:32:57 | sorphin | i suppose |
| 15:38:42 | CosmicPenguin | keeps the beer flowing, which is nice |
| 15:39:37 | sorphin | unless you're prpplague in which case, you need beer to forget why you work where you do ;) |
| 15:39:40 | prpplague | ok guys, everyone keep your fingers crossed that the servers in grand caymans get flooded........ |
| 15:40:04 | sorphin | prpplague: you just wanna go to grand cayman again :P |
| 15:40:15 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, the beer is just for fun, the prozac is for forgeting why i work here |
| 15:43:08 | Barbicane | andersee: are you around? |
| 15:43:59 | andersee | sorphin: whats not working on mips? |
| 15:44:04 | andersee | Barbicane: yup |
| 15:44:44 | Barbicane | andersee: excellent, are you still okay with doing it tonite? |
| 15:45:01 | sorphin | andersee: either/or buildroot or uClinux, something like that.. prod sjhill w/ a sharp object for details |
| 15:45:29 | andersee | Barbicane: sure |
| 15:46:14 | Barbicane | dances a little a jig |
| 15:47:49 | andersee | is away: eating breakfast |
| 15:49:19 | LIM|Away | hey, anyone know why my pageup key doesn't work? and what's this blank key for? |
| 15:49:25 | sorphin | eh? |
| 15:49:32 | sorphin | crack what smokin you? |
| 15:49:35 | LIM | on tuxscreen |
| 15:49:52 | sorphin | bad key map/bad key? :P |
| 15:49:55 | CosmicPenguin | Thats the bluesmoke key |
| 15:50:08 | LIM | does it work on everyone elses? |
| 15:53:05 | kergoth | prpplague: oz cvs is synced back up. finally nailed the procedure down so i can automate it |
| 15:53:47 | LIM | ok, how do I get the "right" keymap... |
| 15:55:54 | LIM | man, sometimes I get good help, other times, I get screwed. |
| 15:57:25 | sorphin | LIM: and sometimes, some of us are busy working like mofos, and can glance over randomly and sometimes can't, don't bitch. |
| 15:57:45 | LIM | hey, I'm just giving you a hard time...perhaps. |
| 15:57:57 | LIM | I have been working too, I can understand :) |
| 15:58:07 | sjhill | *munch* *munch* good lunch |
| 15:58:19 | LIM | ahha, he's not working! |
| 15:58:34 | sorphin | sjhill? work? as if |
| 15:58:38 | sorphin | he works for broadcom |
| 15:58:45 | sorphin | as a linux monkey |
| 15:58:47 | LIM | wazzat? |
| 15:58:49 | sorphin | he doesn't work |
| 15:58:57 | LIM | broadcom? |
| 15:59:00 | sjhill | sorphin is correct, i play for a living |
| 15:59:00 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:59:09 | LIM | sounds like a pr0n site for large women |
| 15:59:11 | sorphin | sjhill: wow, someone who doesn't know who broadcom is ;) |
| 15:59:25 | sorphin | LIM: www.broadcom.com |
| 15:59:35 | sjhill | sorphin: i'm guessing he's a monk with a dialup connection |
| 15:59:38 | LIM | nicely redundant address |
| 15:59:45 | LIM | I have comcast cable... |
| 15:59:47 | sorphin | sjhill: something like that |
| 16:00:06 | sorphin | sjhill: btw.. you just missed andersee, he is acquiring breakfast atm. |
| 16:00:07 | prpplague | kergoth: great, i'll start back with oz-x tonight |
| 16:00:31 | sjhill | prpplague: i found a cool new anime series that's distributed on the 'net in Flash format |
| 16:00:54 | sjhill | prpplague -> http://www.brokensaints.com |
| 16:01:01 | prpplague | looks |
| 16:01:44 | prpplague | sjhill: interesting |
| 16:02:10 | sjhill | prpplague: i haven't had the chance to go through everything yet |
| 16:16:47 | kergoth | hahaha |
| 16:16:54 | kergoth | digi's support site is borked |
| 16:16:55 | kergoth | fun |
| 16:18:54 | prpplague | kergoth: ya well, thats not the only digi thing borked |
| 16:19:06 | kergoth | prpplague: lol |
| 16:19:08 | prpplague | kergoth: looks like there might be a problem with realport |
| 16:19:09 | kergoth | prpplague: true that |
| 16:19:14 | kergoth | prpplague: what sort of problem |
| 16:21:25 | prpplague | kergoth: i seem to be getting a bunch of tcp traffic from realport devices directed to random ports on the server |
| 16:21:58 | kergoth | prpplague: not traffic to the seemingly random outbound port used for the realport connection from the daemon? |
| 16:22:32 | prpplague | kergoth: i don't think so, this is below 1024 |
| 16:22:59 | CosmicPenguin | hey signal11: http://pvrusb.sourceforge.net/ |
| 16:23:14 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm not sure that its not something that is configured incorrectly, but i'll know more in a couple of days, we have a tech on the way down there |
| 16:24:24 | LIM | CosmicPenguin: nice! |
| 16:25:03 | kergoth | prpplague: okay, keep me posted |
| 16:25:14 | prpplague | kergoth: will do |
| 16:25:47 | prpplague | heads to lunch and hopefully pack his bags for the caymans |
| 16:34:30 | sjhill | gets a successful build of uClinux for MIPS...sheesh |
| 16:34:48 | sjhill | a lot of hacking mind you |
| 16:35:09 | sjhill | adjusts belt...'yessir that's why they pay me the big bucks' |
| 16:46:52 | sorphin | sjhill: riiiiight |
| 16:47:02 | sjhill | heh |
| 16:47:31 | sorphin | dares you to get him specs so he can learn :P |
| 16:47:39 | andersee | is back (gone 00:59:47) |
| 16:47:46 | sjhill | gives sorphin an 'A' for effort |
| 16:48:09 | sorphin | atleast some reference code :P |
| 16:48:41 | sorphin | tho, i guess the Kfir ref code that's out there will do once i actually LOOK at it |
| 16:48:49 | sjhill | *gah* the 'configure' script for 'e2fsprogs' in uClinux is crap! |
| 16:48:58 | sjhill | sorphin: probably |
| 16:48:58 | sorphin | sjhill: blame andersee |
| 16:49:16 | sjhill | andersee? |
| 16:49:29 | sorphin | everything's andersee's fault, i told you that |
| 16:49:37 | sjhill | sorphin: yup, you're right |
| 16:49:42 | sorphin | tis that damned codepoet daemon |
| 16:55:47 | andersee | feels guilty |
| 16:56:57 | sorphin | andersee: as you should. busybox, uClibc, breaking makefiles, configure scripts and build trees, you oughta be ashamed ;) |
| 16:57:38 | sjhill | wonders who the primary uClinux maintainers are |
| 16:57:46 | sjhill | looks for people to strangle |
| 16:57:52 | sorphin | sjhill: you really think anyone would really admit to that? |
| 16:57:56 | legodude | sjhill: my hamster had a hand in it |
| 16:58:01 | legodude | er |
| 16:58:02 | sjhill | sorphin: yeah, you're probably right |
| 16:58:02 | legodude | paw |
| 16:58:50 | sorphin | legodude: did you see my mention before? was it you i was debating dvd-r w/ ? |
| 16:59:04 | legodude | I don't think so |
| 16:59:10 | sorphin | dammit, who was it |
| 16:59:10 | prp_lunch | sjhill: http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT3267251481.html |
| 16:59:15 | | i think uclinux is http://www.uclinux.org/ or http://www.uclinux.org/ports/ or http://www.uclinux.com/ |
| 16:59:15 | prp_lunch | ibot: uclinux |
| 16:59:27 | | okay, prp_lunch. |
| 16:59:27 | prp_lunch | ibot: uclinux is also http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT3267251481.html |
| 16:59:52 | sorphin | too bad ibot doesn't archive convos from here |
| 16:59:56 | sorphin | i could have it search :P |
| 17:11:24 | | no idea, sjhill |
| 17:11:24 | sjhill | ibot: do you log? |
| 17:11:29 | sjhill | idiot |
| 17:11:37 | | well, log is This is a record of events. |
| 17:11:37 | sjhill | ibot: log |
| 17:13:15 | | LIM: what? |
| 17:13:15 | LIM | ibot: make a log |
| 17:13:34 | | LIM: sorry... |
| 17:13:34 | LIM | ibot: captain's log |
| 17:15:38 | CosmicPenguin | Seesh, if we set up ibot to log everytime Sorphin gets into a debate, we would have to chip in to buy BZFlag a new hard drive or two |
| 17:35:47 | prpplague | signal11: enjoying another award winning day at censoft? |
| 17:37:04 | signal11 | heh you bet |
| 17:37:26 | signal11 | though win4lin is giving me trouble today |
| 17:38:32 | prpplague | signal11: stop trying to play starcraft under win4lin and you won;t have a problem, lol |
| 17:39:43 | signal11 | heh |
| 17:44:31 | sjhill | anyone hear work for/at SnapGear? |
| 17:44:34 | sjhill | s/hear/here/ |
| 17:45:01 | file | nope |
| 17:45:13 | sjhill | file: hell, you don't work at all |
| 17:46:44 | file | sjhill: I got a contract on one of my projects |
| 17:46:53 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: nope... but all their developers work in Oz |
| 17:47:09 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: Oz? |
| 17:47:19 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: like the Wizard? |
| 17:47:35 | sjhill | sorry |
| 17:47:44 | CosmicPenguin | australia |
| 17:47:51 | sjhill | k |
| 17:49:37 | prpplague | sjhill: i think they got spun off out from BZFlags control |
| 17:50:01 | prpplague | sjhill: they seem to be pretty nice on tech support, but very short on code exchange |
| 17:51:27 | sjhill | :/ ok, thx |
| 17:54:35 | prpplague | sjhill: i was hoping next week sometime to try my hand at uclinux on one of the coldfire based boards from snapgear |
| 18:03:42 | scanline | is back (gone 08:34:18) |
| 18:07:26 | sorphin | lego: there's still 5 of those sunPCI II cards left ;) |
| 18:07:35 | sorphin | damn |
| 18:07:50 | sorphin | i'll have to tease him when he reappears :P |
| 18:08:10 | sorphin | guess for now i'll have to sends tons of broken POS for prpplague to fix ;) |
| 18:11:09 | sjhill | sorphin: what's so special about these sunPCI II cards? |
| 18:12:03 | sorphin | hehe |
| 18:12:08 | sorphin | $165 each |
| 18:13:06 | CosmicPenguin | hates it when he forgets to run lilo |
| 18:13:26 | sjhill | laughs at CosmicPenguin |
| 18:13:40 | kergoth | thanks god for grub |
| 18:13:51 | sorphin | kergoth: or in your case, thanks digi |
| 18:13:59 | CosmicPenguin | Unfortunately, this is a DOC - so they won't let me use grub... :( |
| 18:14:10 | sorphin | Disk On Chip ? |
| 18:14:17 | sorphin | you can grub it |
| 18:14:22 | kergoth | thanks digi? oh hell no |
| 18:14:23 | kergoth | fuck digi |
| 18:14:43 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I know you *can* grub it, but mangement won't let me |
| 18:14:50 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:14:54 | sorphin | the hell w/ management |
| 18:15:26 | kergoth | sorphin: here her |
| 18:15:28 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:15:48 | CosmicPenguin | plus, what do I care? Its not like its my box or anything |
| 18:15:54 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:15:58 | sorphin | no biggie then |
| 18:16:09 | prpplague | kergoth: whats up with "thanks digi"? |
| 18:16:25 | sorphin | well, digi is his prison |
| 18:16:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, one of those quality managment decisions? |
| 18:17:54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: good, cheap, quick - pick two |
| 18:18:05 | CosmicPenguin | they picked cheap and quick |
| 18:19:04 | CosmicPenguin | isn't complaining though - its better than debugging zmodem |
| 18:44:16 | scanline | is away: class |
| 18:56:11 | kergoth | BZFlag: hey tim |
| 19:02:41 | prpplague | BZFlag: when can we place our "high priority orders" for a vercel? |
| 19:03:02 | sorphin | vercel? |
| 19:03:38 | BZFlag | prpplague: who knows. they are still fighting the funding war afaik |
| 19:03:54 | BZFlag | buy a Z, at least they are shipping. =( |
| 19:04:05 | prpplague | BZFlag: already have 8 |
| 19:04:06 | BZFlag | heh |
| 19:04:25 | prpplague | BZFlag: ha, i even got my barcode scanner backpack running this weekend! |
| 19:11:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: just great, looks like redhat has jacked with the ansi emulation on the console |
| 19:11:38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've tried 5 legacy apps and they are all messed up |
| 19:14:02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: typical |
| 19:15:11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: looks like rhat8 will be almost totaly usuable for use |
| 19:15:17 | prpplague | s/use/us |
| 19:16:23 | kergoth | rhat8 is going to be a nightmare here. epca dies if you build it with 2.96, its probably the case with 3.2 also. fun stuff. |
| 19:16:48 | CosmicPenguin | Same old fun from redhat |
| 19:17:23 | prpplague | kergoth: ya our digi install already has failed |
| 19:17:43 | prpplague | kergoth: she chokes on the build |
| 19:17:48 | kergoth | fun |
| 19:18:55 | prpplague | as well as all of the fun stuff such as our ssh packages, legacy applications, doublevision and the a long list |
| 19:19:13 | sjhill | that's just fscking great, 'www.ssleay.org' is gone |
| 19:22:11 | sjhill | it brings up an adult type search engine *sigh* |
| 19:34:49 | prpplague | kergoth: argh, looks like dgrp just kernel paniced this server |
| 19:42:01 | CosmicPenguin | Mmm.... another Redhat .0 release |
| 19:42:06 | CosmicPenguin | looks around for his Gentoo boot disk |
| 19:45:04 | sorphin | WTF |
| 19:45:23 | sorphin | /. news that could affect *ME* (and pattieja) |
| 19:45:42 | sorphin | The Future of Game Dev (Except in St. Louis) |
| 19:49:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: where did you get the rh8 ISO? |
| 19:49:18 | sorphin | shivers at yet another mention of Red Scum |
| 19:49:44 | file | sorphin: atleast we agree on one thing - that Redhat is bad |
| 19:50:12 | sorphin | yup.. i made the mistake of using RH 5.0 back in the day... baaaaaaaaaaad move |
| 19:53:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got it from a oz site |
| 20:31:02 | CosmicPenguin | Ack! Windows protection error |
| 20:34:28 | Russ|werk | awww...so sad |
| 20:35:03 | Russ|werk | what distro is out there using pre-releases (cvs) of glibc btw? |
| 20:35:39 | CosmicPenguin | ??? I dunno - the usual suspects would be Gentoo and Debian, but I don't know for sure |
| 20:36:52 | sorphin | well, you definately can rule out slackware, they didn't even drop libc5 till after everyone else was using glibc2/libc6 for 2 years :P |
| 20:47:14 | scanline | is back (gone 02:02:57) |
| 20:52:12 | Russ|werk | its not debian |
| 21:13:40 | prpplague | heads home |
| 21:13:58 | prpplague | got a late night coming, got some router work to do at midnight |
| 21:14:04 | prpplague | later folks |
| 21:43:05 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... would anyone else like to see a ipcalc style applet in busybox, or is that just me? |
| 21:44:47 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: yeah, it's just you |
| 21:45:02 | sjhill | ;-P |
| 21:52:57 | jacques | heh |
| 21:53:07 | | andersee was last seen on #uclibc 57 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: sandman: I thought they did not provide one for respawn actions [Mon Sep 30 21:55:49 2002] |
| 21:53:07 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 21:53:14 | | BZFlag was last seen on #uclibc 54 minutes and 33 seconds ago, saying: should probably look at the code. =) [Mon Sep 30 21:58:41 2002] |
| 21:53:14 | jacques | ibot: seen BZFlag |
| 21:53:56 | Barbicane | andersee: still on to do an interview in 5 hours, 20 minutes? |
| 21:54:19 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:54:25 | jacques | andersee and BZFlag: the revised patch for compiling tinyx along with updated .conf files are at: http://intimate.handhelds.org/jacques/xcompile/tuxscreen/ |
| 21:54:27 | sorphin | ask him in 4 hours :P |
| 21:56:41 | scanline | is away: dinner |
| 21:56:42 | jacques | to anyone who's interested, tinyx compiles again (if you get the new patch and conf files) |
| 21:58:58 | | tomw was last seen on #tuxscreen 55 days, 7 hours, 18 minutes and 32 seconds ago, saying: jtag was not meant for doing very much... [Tue Aug 6 15:40:26 2002] |
| 21:58:58 | jacques | ibot: seen tomw |
| 21:59:05 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 21:59:20 | jacques | heh |
| 22:04:14 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:12:07 | BZFlag | jacques: you have write access to cvs? what's your SF id? |
| 22:14:34 | BZFlag | jacques: djf or fontenot ? you seem to have two SF accounts |
| 22:15:58 | DarkDream | which version of linux do you put on the TuxScreen ? |
| 22:16:13 | DarkDream | Kernel I mean |
| 22:19:57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hows the beer tonight? |
| 22:23:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not bad, shiner blonde |
| 22:24:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=910 |
| 22:25:08 | jacques | BZFlag: hi sorry was hacking a little perl |
| 22:25:16 | prpplague | any hardware experts around tonight? |
| 22:25:42 | prpplague | jacques: that sounds kinda qinky |
| 22:26:07 | jacques | BZFlag: let me check which SF acct I still have the password to |
| 22:26:10 | jacques | prpplague: :-D |
| 22:26:18 | prpplague | jacques: btw, evening |
| 22:26:27 | kergoth | dies |
| 22:26:52 | prpplague | shouts "kergoth is dead, long live kergoth!" |
| 22:26:52 | jacques | prpplague: how;s it going? |
| 22:27:21 | prpplague | jacques: seeing how many beers i can drink before i start work on this router in barbados |
| 22:27:22 | scanline | is back (gone 00:30:39) |
| 22:27:50 | kergoth | prpplague: i'm working late |
| 22:27:54 | kergoth | prpplague: somebody needs to kill me |
| 22:28:05 | sorphin | >BANG< |
| 22:28:10 | kergoth | thanks |
| 22:28:24 | sorphin | of course ;) |
| 22:28:33 | sorphin | tho, if you work for digi, you're already dead ;) |
| 22:28:40 | kergoth | true that |
| 22:29:06 | prpplague | sorphin: i see it now "resident evil II: the return of digi" |
| 22:29:16 | kergoth | prpplague: scary |
| 22:29:42 | sorphin | and the next fighting game |
| 22:29:50 | sorphin | prpplague vs. the POS |
| 22:29:53 | kergoth | hah |
| 22:29:54 | BZFlag | DarkDream: 2.4.18-rmk6-tux1 is current in buildroot |
| 22:29:57 | prpplague | sorphin: ha |
| 22:30:14 | BZFlag | jacques: word? |
| 22:31:41 | prpplague | sorphin: "haha, all your pos belong to us" |
| 22:32:30 | BZFlag | jacques: and you should open a ticket on SF to have the non-active account closed. |
| 22:36:34 | DarkDream | BZFlag: when you want a new kernel, you compile it on the tux ? |
| 22:43:57 | prpplague | holy-splits batman! |
| 22:46:22 | BZFlag | neat, there are a ton of little OPNs now. ;-) |
| 22:56:44 | jacques | BZFlag: sorry, work keeps intruding - my active account on SF is djf |
| 22:59:15 | BZFlag | adding to the project... |
| 23:01:44 | jacques | BZFlag: cool |
| 23:01:50 | prpplague | andersee: good morning |
| 23:06:02 | BZFlag | jacques: added. does your patch include the .def files? |
| 23:06:37 | BZFlag | as those are small, they could either be added to the patch or added directly to sources. |
| 23:06:43 | jacques | BZFlag: the .def files *did* change, those are in the same dir on intimate.handhelds.org - I thought the build downloaded them from there |
| 23:07:03 | jacques | BZFlag: good point, but I have not done that |
| 23:07:04 | BZFlag | it could. just that they are small enough that sources/ would be fine too. |
| 23:07:45 | andersee | prpplague: morning |
| 23:11:13 | jacques | hell since we are downloading our own tarball for xfree, they could be in there, but they were changing a lot for a while, and I also had this dream about being able to build the xfree cvs head |
| 23:12:05 | BZFlag | nods |
| 23:13:13 | prpplague | jacques: xf86 build is soooo much fun |
| 23:15:12 | jacques | prpplague: I need to email the montavista guy about his tslib ts patch |
| 23:15:58 | jacques | once that works, we may be able to use the cvs head |
| 23:16:25 | prpplague | jacques: nice |
| 23:16:44 | prpplague | jacques: i need to get the tslib stuff done for the z |
| 23:20:33 | jacques | prpplague: well it's nice that more ppl seem to be getting expertise with tslib - more ppl to ask questions of |
| 23:27:11 | prpplague | jacques: or more ppl to cry to when it doesn't work,lol |
| 23:28:30 | Morn | hey |
| 23:30:00 | BZFlag | jacques: well, commit something that works, ok? ;-) |
| 23:33:56 | jacques | BZFlag: OK, I'll do my best (a bit later tonight) |
| 23:34:13 | jacques | hi Morn |
| 23:34:21 | kergoth`argh | sighs |
| 23:35:21 | Morn | how goes? |
| 23:58:29 | BZFlag | starts up a SF project for eLinux |