| 01:43:15 | sorphin | eek! it's the weasel |
| 01:43:47 | LIM | pops the weasel in the eye |
| 01:58:32 | scanline | is away: Sleep, that's where I'm a vi king! |
| 01:59:40 | CosmicPenguin | heh.... gotta love simpsons quotes |
| 02:16:00 | MonMotha | well, I finally got this UART and SRAM desoldered...of course I just had to break one pin off each of them |
| 02:16:41 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:18:16 | MonMotha | which of course just happens to be write enable... |
| 02:18:20 | MonMotha | on the UART...grrr |
| 02:18:31 | MonMotha | I guess I'll have to solder a wire onto the pad that's left |
| 02:18:37 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:18:50 | MonMotha | and I can't find docs on the sram :( |
| 02:19:35 | LIM | what mod is this? |
| 02:19:39 | MonMotha | is just tinkering |
| 02:19:43 | LIM | ah |
| 02:19:52 | MonMotha | LIM: it's not a mod, I'm just hanging things off a PC to pass some time |
| 02:19:58 | LIM | heh |
| 02:20:00 | MonMotha | attempting to build a flash burner in the end |
| 02:20:11 | MonMotha | so when people come crawling to me with misflashed BIOSes, I can do something about it |
| 02:20:17 | LIM | I'm determined to add the tuxscreen touchscreen to my mouse driver... |
| 02:20:37 | LIM | I have a misflashed 2MB bios |
| 02:20:45 | LIM | I can't do anything about it :( |
| 02:20:51 | LIM | except order another |
| 02:21:34 | MonMotha | that 2MB or 2Mb? |
| 02:21:47 | sorphin | prolly 2Mb |
| 02:21:48 | sorphin | :P |
| 02:21:50 | LIM | byte |
| 02:21:57 | sorphin | um |
| 02:22:00 | sorphin | doubtful |
| 02:22:08 | sorphin | there is no such thing as a 2Mbyte bios |
| 02:22:18 | LIM | 1Mbyte? |
| 02:22:20 | sorphin | they're 2Mbit which is 256K byte |
| 02:22:32 | sorphin | and 1Mbit which is 128Kbyte |
| 02:23:30 | MonMotha | you can get 2MB flash chips...but they're generally not cheap nor available in a DIP package |
| 02:23:34 | LIM | 131072 byte bios flash file size |
| 02:23:40 | LIM | so I guess 1Mbit |
| 02:23:43 | sorphin | yup |
| 02:23:52 | sorphin | that's 128K or 1Mbit |
| 02:24:11 | LIM | wow, was I messed up. |
| 02:24:18 | LIM | yeah I know the conversion. |
| 02:24:30 | LIM | from the old console cart sizes :) |
| 02:24:47 | LIM | they'd say 24Mbit, I'd say 3MByte |
| 02:25:19 | LIM | ahhh, nintedo |
| 02:28:15 | LIM | I still can't use the bios though :/ |
| 02:29:33 | MonMotha | I will say radio shack's selection of stuff sucks |
| 02:29:46 | MonMotha | I just wanted a few .1uF caps for the second serial port...they don't have them |
| 02:30:21 | legodude | MonMotha: you look in the capacitor assortments? |
| 02:30:25 | legodude | that's where I had to get mine |
| 02:31:59 | MonMotha | legodude: there's a big parts place I can go to, they're just a bit further away |
| 02:32:03 | MonMotha | and I only had $10 on me :) |
| 02:57:01 | sorphin | legodude: here's where the 1st error appears (good thing i don't need appletalk |
| 02:57:04 | sorphin | /bin/sh: tr: not found |
| 02:57:05 | sorphin | ERROR: An error occurred while: |
| 02:57:05 | sorphin | Installing new versions of selected appletalk.sw subsystems |
| 02:57:05 | sorphin | Command "( if test `grep ksd $rbase/var/adm/appletalk/services | wc -l` -eq 0; |
| 02:57:05 | sorphin | then echo "# Start K-AShare Server\\n/usr/etc/appletalk/ksd -f -o -i X/usr/bsd/ |
| 02:57:05 | sorphin | hostnameX" | tr X \\140 >> $rbase/var/adm/appletalk/services; fi )" failed (ret |
| 02:57:07 | sorphin | urn status 127, subsystem appletalk.sw.xinet_base 1430002000) |
| 03:39:27 | legodude | no idea |
| 03:39:34 | legodude | I'll let you know when I get it install this weekend |
| 03:39:37 | legodude | g'nite everybody |
| 12:27:59 | prpplague | morning all |
| 13:07:32 | cosmic_athome | good morning |
| 13:08:02 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 14:40:18) |
| 13:15:36 | sorphin | liar |
| 13:18:55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: don't you have somebody else to bother? |
| 13:19:33 | sorphin | plenty, but i can't skip anyone :P |
| 14:25:11 | prpplague | anyone know a good channel for usb dev? |
| 14:30:42 | LIM | what level of dev? |
| 14:32:58 | prpplague | LIM: i need to get a HID dev up and running |
| 14:35:53 | CosmicPenguin | what type of HID? |
| 14:36:59 | prpplague | combination creditcard reader, signature capture device |
| 14:37:43 | LIM | funky |
| 14:38:02 | LIM | I only know how to hack the event device to use USB... |
| 14:38:16 | LIM | I mean read it |
| 14:38:34 | LIM | it might work for your stuff |
| 14:39:04 | prpplague | LIM: well its showing up as hiddev0, i just need soem pointers |
| 14:39:21 | LIM | hmm |
| 14:39:30 | LIM | I'd try evdev first |
| 14:39:37 | LIM | it's rawer |
| 14:39:45 | LIM | but simple to use |
| 14:39:56 | prpplague | LIM: evdev? ok i'll have a look |
| 14:40:07 | LIM | the kernel docs have a readme for it |
| 14:40:21 | LIM | also see if you have evtest |
| 14:40:41 | prpplague | LIM: ok thanks, thats what i need to start with |
| 14:40:56 | LIM | yeah, it dumps things |
| 14:41:17 | LIM | I dunno if it can send data upstream though |
| 14:41:18 | prpplague | LIM: i try not to pester ppl with RTFM questions, but sometimes i need a push in the right direction for reading material |
| 14:41:33 | LIM | I didn't consider it an RTFM |
| 14:41:40 | LIM | I had no help either... |
| 14:41:41 | sorphin | prpplague: you're not file, you're allowed to ask quesitons ;) |
| 14:41:43 | prpplague | LIM: shouldn't need to, its just a one way data stream |
| 14:41:46 | LIM | when I wanted to do USB stuff |
| 14:42:02 | LIM | cool, might work really well for you too then :) |
| 14:42:32 | prpplague | LIM: i hope so, it'd really hate to have to use the rs-232 version |
| 14:43:06 | LIM | heh |
| 14:43:13 | LIM | yeah, this is so much simpler |
| 14:44:22 | LIM | so what you can try is evtest on the event dev, swipe a card or sign on it, and see if anything comes in |
| 14:44:40 | CosmicPenguin | Better yet, does it work on windows? |
| 14:47:31 | LIM | bah! |
| 14:48:16 | sorphin | who cares ;) |
| 14:48:32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep it works in winblows, but i ain't going there unless there is a dam good reason |
| 14:48:52 | CosmicPenguin | Because you can use Snoopy: http://home.jps.net/~koma/ |
| 14:49:10 | LIM | winshlonker is the reason not to use winshlonker... |
| 14:49:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh nice |
| 14:49:20 | prpplague | bookmarks |
| 14:49:37 | sorphin | http://www-bcs.mit.edu/people/adelson/checkershadow_illusion.html |
| 14:49:56 | LIM | prpplague: there's also a libusb for linux. that is lower level than HID and evdev |
| 14:49:57 | CosmicPenguin | Quite frankly, Snoopy kicks ass - thats how I hacked my Dotpal. |
| 14:50:33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ohh you got a dotpal? |
| 14:50:46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ohh thats right you have homer don't you! |
| 14:50:48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: www.xmission.com/~cpenguin/ |
| 14:51:26 | prpplague | goes to use evtest, brb |
| 14:55:04 | prpplague | is back |
| 14:55:35 | prpplague | LIM: is evtest part of the usb dev package? |
| 15:03:23 | LIM | no |
| 15:03:27 | LIM | input dev perhaps |
| 15:03:36 | LIM | I got the cvs though |
| 15:05:04 | LIM | linuxconsole/ruby/utils |
| 15:08:54 | prpplague | LIM: ok hiddev0 would correspond to /dev/input/event0 right? |
| 15:09:04 | LIM | hrmm |
| 15:09:48 | LIM | ls -al it |
| 15:10:05 | LIM | crw-r--r-- 1 root root 13, 64 Mar 8 2001 /dev/input/event0 |
| 15:10:27 | LIM | I doubt hiddev0 is the same... |
| 15:11:29 | prpplague | LIM: ya the nodes are different, but evtest usage implies that it needs to be run on an input stream |
| 15:14:49 | LIM | but I bet it might pick up your usb device |
| 15:18:30 | prpplague | LIM: i tested with a usb keyboard, looks like my device is getting recognized as hiddev0 but the input0 is not getting associated |
| 15:18:48 | prpplague | LIM: looks like i'm going to have some usb fun! |
| 15:19:04 | LIM | evdump dumps the hiddev0? |
| 15:20:21 | prpplague | LIM: sorry, i've been playing with evtest |
| 15:20:29 | prpplague | LIM: evdump is next |
| 15:22:06 | LIM | oops |
| 15:22:09 | LIM | I mean evtest! |
| 15:22:20 | LIM | <-- sleep deprived |
| 15:25:50 | prpplague | LIM: if i do a evtest on /dev/usb/hiddev0 i get an error something like "can't determine version number" and it bails |
| 15:26:34 | LIM | yeah, figures |
| 15:26:59 | LIM | :( |
| 15:27:01 | prpplague | LIM: guess i need to see why its not associating a input0 device |
| 15:27:32 | LIM | what you want is an event# device |
| 15:27:52 | prpplague | right |
| 15:28:23 | prpplague | then i guess i have to have my app read the event# for input |
| 15:28:56 | prpplague | hmm, i wonder if i have an old copy of evtest |
| 15:29:12 | LIM | nah |
| 15:30:49 | LIM | /usr/src/linux/Documentation/usb/hiddev.txt |
| 15:33:00 | prpplague | LIM: hmm, maybe i should be using hiddev.c to look at the data |
| 15:33:12 | LIM | hiddev.c ? |
| 15:33:23 | LIM | in kernel? |
| 15:33:49 | prpplague | LIM: in the usb programming guide, they have some sample to test usb devices |
| 15:35:00 | LIM | ahh |
| 15:35:10 | LIM | yeah, since you get hiddev0.... |
| 15:35:38 | LIM | I made a usb mouse driver using the event devices...so I was always on the input core... |
| 15:36:15 | LIM | http://www.suse.cz/development/input/ is apparently the home of hid dev |
| 15:36:27 | prpplague | LIM: ya, i'm thinking that this probably doesn't need to go through the input core because i need raw data |
| 15:37:03 | LIM | yep |
| 15:37:22 | LIM | input just looks at the device type and sayd "not mine" or something |
| 15:39:16 | prpplague | LIM: ok thanks for the help, think i'll go hack for a bit |
| 15:40:06 | LIM | fun. |
| 15:41:55 | LIM | I would check here too: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/index.php |
| 15:42:28 | LIM | and here: http://usb.cs.tum.edu/usbdoc/ |
| 15:45:49 | prpplague | LIM: lol, checking it as you sent the url |
| 15:46:50 | LIM | heheh |
| 15:49:06 | LIM | food time! |
| 16:01:59 | sorphin | heh, a pci version of the pc weasel.. bout time :P |
| 16:02:20 | sorphin | too bad it's way overpriced |
| 16:57:04 | prpplague | brains.....need brains...... |
| 16:57:13 | sorphin | sends a truck over |
| 16:57:47 | prpplague | sorphin: i swear if i have to deal with one more POS i'll puke |
| 16:57:56 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:58:10 | sorphin | sends over a truck of barf bags :P |
| 17:10:35 | adam__ | sup people |
| 17:10:41 | prpplague | ssdd |
| 17:11:18 | adam__ | may seem odd to ask this question in a linux room....but does anyone here know a good DNS server for windows |
| 17:11:34 | adam__ | and also, how to get the second IP for the secondart DNS server |
| 17:11:44 | prpplague | adam__: ahh, your right, not a good question to ask around here |
| 17:12:02 | adam__ | ....yeah, thanks anyway |
| 17:12:16 | adam__ | wuit |
| 17:12:18 | adam__ | quit |
| 17:12:24 | adam__ | |
| 17:12:36 | prpplague | sorphin: look, someone has a sense of humor, quote from manpage: |
| 17:12:40 | prpplague | --nikeforced over ride function (just do it) |
| 17:15:49 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:16:09 | sorphin | wonders where the sign is that says "linux support channel" |
| 17:49:27 | file[laptop] | awakens |
| 18:02:55 | sorphin | permanently puts you to sleep |
| 18:03:56 | file[laptop] | ignores sorphin |
| 18:08:51 | sorphin | good |
| 18:09:07 | sorphin | now go do your "homework" |
| 18:10:36 | file[laptop] | sorphin: stop trying to get me to have sex with you - I won't!!! |
| 18:11:39 | sorphin | ummm |
| 18:11:48 | kergoth_ | file[laptop]: liar |
| 18:12:00 | sorphin | wonders where sex came into anything i've said. |
| 18:12:10 | sorphin | kergoth: i think file's just mentally ill |
| 18:12:14 | kergoth_ | sorphin: that too |
| 18:12:35 | sorphin | kergoth: so how's life in digiland? |
| 18:13:01 | kergoth_ | sorphin: amusing. made the boss look fucking incompetent in front of the department in our meeting. |
| 18:13:11 | sorphin | good show ;) |
| 18:13:25 | kergoth_ | man, that feels good |
| 18:13:28 | kergoth_ | doesnt happen often |
| 18:13:29 | kergoth_ | :) |
| 18:13:30 | sorphin | indeed |
| 18:13:54 | sorphin | file[laptop]: btw.. as for you having sex w/ anyone, i severely doubt it'll ever happen, even if you paid them. :P |
| 18:14:15 | file[laptop] | sorphin: everyone is entitled to their own opinion |
| 18:14:39 | sorphin | i'd say, that's more a fact. |
| 18:14:59 | sorphin | but anyways, enough harassing the annoying 15 year old script kiddie. |
| 18:15:21 | file[laptop] | script kiddie? |
| 18:15:28 | sorphin | kergoth: digi came out w/ anything new or is it mostly just supporting old stuff these days? |
| 18:16:26 | kergoth_ | sorphin: they're pushing network attached single port devices for industrial space, supporting modbus and teh like |
| 18:16:37 | kergoth_ | sorphin: and console management, serial on ethernet as though its some new thing |
| 18:16:54 | sorphin | file[laptop]: well, i certainly wouldn't call you a coder. :P you lurk in here, i've never seen any code of yours, you don't even have a bloody tuxscreen, and you keep bugging/begging prpplague for free hardware :P |
| 18:16:56 | kergoth_ | sorphin: still its all serial. half our shit is old, and the other half is transition devices to help people move to ethernet |
| 18:17:13 | file[laptop] | sorphin: no I don't |
| 18:17:16 | sorphin | kergoth: heh |
| 18:17:21 | sorphin | kergoth: scary |
| 18:17:23 | file[laptop] | sorphin: it was his idea to send the TCSX-1 to me and mallum |
| 18:17:32 | sorphin | suuuure it was |
| 18:17:45 | sorphin | and it as his idea for you to bug him about where it s :P |
| 18:17:52 | sorphin | is* |
| 18:18:09 | file[laptop] | wonders why sorphin even picks on him |
| 18:19:44 | kergoth_ | file[laptop]: cause its too easy? :-P |
| 18:27:52 | sorphin | file[laptop]: cuz you annoy me? :P |
| 18:28:13 | file[laptop] | I said one word... and it annoyed you - wow, your easily annoyed |
| 18:31:08 | sorphin | it's cumulative :P |
| 18:31:28 | file[laptop] | uh huh |
| 18:31:28 | sorphin | not to mention, work puts me in a foul mood anyways :P |
| 18:32:03 | sorphin | anyways |
| 18:32:38 | sorphin | kergoth: least your ether transceivers are decent ;) |
| 19:22:23 | sorphin | BZFlag: having fun yet? |
| 19:25:03 | BZFlag | sure |
| 21:10:19 | prpplague | later folks |
| 21:10:28 | CosmicPenguin | bye |
| 21:12:44 | scanline | is back (gone 19:14:12) |
| 21:32:40 | jacques | how's buildroot these days? |
| 21:35:15 | MonMotha | gcc seems to work (despite what the topic says), but tinyx fails for me |
| 21:39:03 | jacques | MonMotha: tinyx build fails? |
| 21:39:13 | MonMotha | does for me |
| 21:39:25 | jacques | MonMotha: OK that's been that way for months then :-\ |
| 21:39:27 | MonMotha | apparently nobody else has problems with it tho |
| 21:39:37 | jacques | MonMotha: why do you say that? |
| 21:40:03 | jacques | MonMotha: I was finding that nobody was complaining because nobody was using the recent buildroots :-\ (at least to build tinyx) |
| 21:40:06 | MonMotha | I've asked around and either nobody else uses buildroot or nobody else has problems with tinyx |
| 21:40:44 | jacques | ok I'm going to try it but I bet x build is still broken (from when they reorganized the directory structure of buildroot) |
| 21:42:29 | jacques | MonMotha: tinyx also broke because wide char support was added to uclibc |
| 21:42:42 | jacques | I would be very surprised if it's currently building for anybody |
| 21:42:54 | MonMotha | that would be more consistant with the error I'm getting (which I forget, but it wasn't anything like file not found related) |
| 21:45:07 | jacques | I kept meaning to fix that but I have been playing with wifi lately |
| 21:59:21 | jacques | heh gcc 3.2 takes a while to dl |
| 22:07:20 | jacques | i wish buildroot would use both my processors |
| 22:08:27 | CosmicPenguin | Hmm.... that would be a cool hack |
| 22:09:08 | jacques | a very useful hack to me |
| 22:11:18 | CosmicPenguin | I thought there was a distributed make available |
| 22:11:29 | kergoth_ | ? |
| 22:11:30 | kergoth_ | make -j2 |
| 22:11:37 | kergoth_ | or make -j -l 4 or what have you |
| 22:11:46 | kergoth_ | distributed mamke, you can use distcc to build on multiple boxes |
| 22:12:09 | sorphin | when i used to compile things on my dual ppro |
| 22:12:15 | sorphin | make -j3 worked best |
| 22:12:56 | CosmicPenguin | or you could always just do a cluster.... :) |
| 22:13:29 | sorphin | mosix |
| 22:16:14 | CosmicPenguin | wishes he had more x86 processors at home so he could have a cluster |
| 22:20:06 | jacques | yeah but more needs to be done for buildroot to work |
| 22:20:14 | jacques | the -j gets lost |
| 22:20:36 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:20:52 | sorphin | you just run it again :P |
| 22:21:04 | jacques | ? |
| 22:21:27 | sorphin | if make -j slips, run it again :P |
| 22:21:32 | jacques | oh heh |
| 22:22:01 | jacques | Connecting to telia.dl.sourceforge.net[204.157.3.229]:80... |
| 22:22:04 | jacques | and hang |
| 22:22:06 | jacques | and hang |
| 22:22:09 | jacques | and hang |
| 22:22:40 | CosmicPenguin | The thing about buildroot, is that you would need to figure out how to distribute the independent targets (busybox, tinylogin, etc...) |
| 22:23:11 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: my altered buildroot supports make -j and -j -l flawlessly :) |
| 22:23:15 | CosmicPenguin | It would be cool to build the kernel on one processor, and in that time, build all of the apps on the other one |
| 22:23:20 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: course its a hefty alteration from the tuxscreen one |
| 22:23:28 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth_: post it to the list - lets see what you've got! |
| 22:23:38 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: it uses roman zippel's linux kernel config system to decide what to build |
| 22:23:42 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 22:23:57 | kergoth_ | CosmicPenguin: and to choose the type of image to create (ext2, jffs2), what have you |
| 22:24:02 | CosmicPenguin | Nice |
| 22:24:47 | kergoth_ | http://openzaurus.sf.net/testing/xconfig.jpg |
| 22:24:51 | kergoth_ | minor glimpse |
| 22:24:54 | kergoth_ | it still needs work |
| 22:24:59 | jacques | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@busybox.net:/var/cvs co udhcp |
| 22:25:03 | jacques | and hang |
| 22:25:06 | jacques | etc etc etc |
| 22:25:19 | sorphin | jacques: um... telia? i always use unc :P |
| 22:25:36 | kergoth_ | unc is more reliable, in my experience |
| 22:25:36 | jacques | sorphin: that's what buildroot tried to use |
| 22:25:47 | jacques | sorphin: AFAIK I ave no control over that |
| 22:25:52 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:25:58 | sorphin | edit buildroot :P |
| 22:26:05 | jacques | oh yeah |
| 22:26:15 | sorphin | kergoth: indeed |
| 22:26:25 | jacques | so what can I edit to stop the hang on the cvs chckout of udhcp? |
| 22:26:44 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: nada |
| 22:26:44 | jacques | it hangs forever after: U udhcp/samples/udhcpd.conf |
| 22:27:59 | CosmicPenguin | See you crazy kids in a few minutes |
| 22:31:10 | jacques | five separate files have telia in them |
| 22:31:15 | jacques | seems like it should be one place |
| 22:34:00 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:34:03 | sorphin | blame andersee |
| 22:48:14 | jacques | MonMotha: yeah xfree build it totally broken |
| 22:48:28 | jacques | it's not working for anybody |
| 22:56:46 | sorphin | prpplague: re, mr pos |
| 22:58:54 | jacques | MonMotha: I'm trying to fix the tinyx build now |
| 22:59:12 | sorphin | jacques: um... why am i seeing 1/2 of this convo? :P |
| 22:59:38 | jacques | sorphin: I guess he god bored with me :-) |
| 22:59:44 | jacques | got |
| 23:00:18 | sorphin | umm |
| 23:00:31 | sorphin | he hasn't responded in a while ;) |
| 23:08:14 | | MonMotha was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 25 minutes and 20 seconds ago, saying: that would be more consistant with the error I'm getting (which I forget, but it wasn't anything like file not found related) [Fri Sep 27 22:42:54 2002] |
| 23:08:14 | jacques | ibot: seen MonMotha |
| 23:21:57 | prpplague | sorphin: evening |
| 23:22:08 | jacques | hm I have tinyx compiling now, we'll see if it links |
| 23:22:17 | jacques | hi prpplague |
| 23:22:36 | prpplague | jacques: hey dude, long time no chat |
| 23:22:41 | prpplague | jacques: how goes it/ |
| 23:22:52 | jacques | prpplague: yeah I'm a gemini - I get sidetracked a lot :-) |
| 23:22:53 | file | waves to prpplague |
| 23:23:06 | jacques | prpplague: lately I've been playing with wifi |
| 23:24:17 | jacques | but now I wanna try wifi on my tuxscreens so I'm back, trying to get tinyx building in latest buildroot |
| 23:24:28 | prpplague | jacques: don't feel bad, i'm a pisces and i'm the same way |
| 23:24:44 | sorphin | prpplague: sup? |
| 23:24:56 | sorphin | jacques: eh? what about a "gemini"? :P |
| 23:25:00 | prpplague | sorphin: building a backpack for my zaurus |
| 23:25:12 | sorphin | cool |
| 23:25:13 | jacques | WOW , it linX0Red |
| 23:26:33 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:27:21 | CosmicPenguin | Someday, around the same time that the Resturant At the End of the Universe opens for business, I'm going to stick the a random Bluetooth module in and see if it works |
| 23:27:33 | CosmicPenguin | But at this point in time, I don't even have enough motivation to go get dinner |
| 23:27:55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not even enough motivation to tell your wife to get a beer for ya? |
| 23:29:24 | sorphin | ;) |
| 23:30:55 | jacques | emacs is pissing me off |
| 23:31:27 | sorphin | that's cuz emacs sucks ;) |
| 23:31:45 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, you prefer Notepad, right? |
| 23:31:48 | prpplague | ha, i love harassing telemarketers! |
| 23:32:35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no, joe, vi, pico, cat << EOF in that order |
| 23:33:07 | jacques | emacs tries to be way too fucking smart |
| 23:33:21 | jacques | it wont let me edit files because it thinks it knows better than I |
| 23:33:43 | sorphin | taht's what you get for using it ;p |
| 23:33:57 | CosmicPenguin | ahh... sorphin quit /ignor'ing me |
| 23:34:14 | jacques | yeah unfortunately I am so used to it :-\ |
| 23:34:23 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i never was ignoring you |
| 23:34:47 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Time to eat |
| 23:34:48 | jacques | bah, I've been using id for 15 years and I still dont know shit abo tit |
| 23:35:23 | sorphin | jacques: 15 years? how old are you? :P |
| 23:35:39 | jacques | sorphin: older than 30 |
| 23:35:53 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:35:54 | jacques | been using it since 87 |
| 23:36:10 | sorphin | jacques: btw.. sorry i didn't catch up w/ you in sunnyvale.. got sidetracked |
| 23:36:24 | jacques | now, who can I talk to to get my patches integrated into buildroot so tinyx can build again? |
| 23:36:31 | jacques | sorphin: 's ok |
| 23:37:18 | sorphin | jacques: andersee prolly |
| 23:37:27 | jacques | nod |
| 23:38:38 | sorphin | jacques: i'll prolly be out there again not too long from now.. still got 2 days vac left i plan to wrap around a weekend |
| 23:38:58 | jacques | sorphin: cool, did you have a good time last time? |
| 23:39:10 | sorphin | yeah, more fun there than vegas |
| 23:39:15 | jacques | :-D |
| 23:41:03 | sorphin | didn't make it to lombard st.. and didn't see the GG (too foggy) |
| 23:43:20 | jacques | ah |
| 23:44:05 | sorphin | did go to alcatraz and such |
| 23:47:26 | jacques | ok I forgot how to use buildroot - how to I get it to regen the jffs2 image? |
| 23:47:42 | jacques | I do make tinyx and it works but does not generate a new image at the end |
| 23:48:21 | sorphin | i just remake |
| 23:48:33 | sorphin | it should skip everythign else since they haven't changed |
| 23:49:26 | jacques | thanks, that's it |
| 23:50:30 | sorphin | nod |
| 23:59:31 | prpplague | kergoth: hey, drunk yet? |
