| 01:20:12 | sorphin | IRIX6.5.17_1of4.tar.gz IRIX6.5.17_3of4.tar.gz IRIX6.5.17_4of4.tar.gz |
| 01:20:14 | sorphin | ;) |
| 01:21:33 | sorphin | legodude: support.sgi.com, upper right where it mentions .17 |
| 01:21:35 | sorphin | click |
| 01:43:34 | sorphin | legodude: i can't figure out which cd should be the boot cd (and none of em are iso format, typical) |
| 01:48:06 | legodude | don't you have choices in your bootup menu? |
| 01:48:06 | legodude | like "install system software" |
| 01:53:51 | sorphin | i meant which "iso" image to use :P |
| 01:53:51 | legodude | ooh |
| 01:53:52 | legodude | that's complicated |
| 01:53:52 | sorphin | still uses a miniroot :P |
| 01:53:52 | sorphin | btw |
| 01:53:52 | legodude | I think you have to boot overlay |
| 01:53:52 | sorphin | you CAN switch between maint and feature |
| 01:53:52 | legodude | then put other stuff in |
| 01:53:52 | legodude | or something |
| 01:53:52 | legodude | you can? |
| 01:53:52 | sorphin | yes |
| 01:53:53 | legodude | people on usenet are wrong then |
| 01:53:53 | sorphin | well, sgi says you can |
| 01:53:54 | sorphin | and since they apparently didn't lie... ;) |
| 01:53:57 | legodude | of course they don't |
| 01:53:58 | sorphin | we're just blind ;) (and they hid it well :P ) |
| 02:01:17 | legodude | hexes sgi |
| 02:01:29 | sorphin | wha? |
| 02:01:51 | sorphin | oh lord.. a mcdonalds hotel |
| 02:05:29 | legodude | oh jebus |
| 02:05:32 | legodude | g'nite |
| 02:06:59 | sorphin | heh, night.. |
| 02:38:50 | LIM | crap, I just did a builroot and now it says init= (blank) seems that to bootparams aren't set :( so what do I do? |
| 02:43:48 | scanline | is back (gone 08:00:58) |
| 02:44:42 | LIM | anyone every build a ramdisk from the cvs and have to tweak it? |
| 02:44:51 | LIM | ever |
| 03:38:40 | LIM | yay, got it going :) |
| 06:46:35 | sorphin | allo tim |
| 13:08:13 | cpenguin_home | I'll see you guys in 10 minutes |
| 13:14:36 | sorphin | dir |
| 13:14:38 | sorphin | grr |
| 13:14:46 | prpplague | sorphin: morning |
| 13:14:50 | sorphin | lo |
| 13:15:38 | sorphin | just discovered these lovely sgi "isos" are efs.. woulda been nice ot know before i used up 13 cdr blanks, since i coulda just loopfs'd em all, but i suppose it's good to have a non thrashable backup.. |
| 13:16:13 | sorphin | and now i must acquire food before my stomach eats itself |
| 13:26:19 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 13:27:26 | sorphin | sjhill: :P |
| 13:28:14 | sjhill | oh |
| 13:28:23 | sjhill | and hello to you too sorphin |
| 13:28:28 | sjhill | ;-) |
| 13:28:31 | sorphin | :) |
| 13:28:34 | sorphin | mornin |
| 13:28:35 | sjhill | is confused |
| 13:28:55 | sorphin | after hanging around echostar ppl |
| 13:28:57 | sjhill | i can't check out uClinux from CVS....'userland' repository doesn't exist *gah* |
| 13:29:00 | sorphin | it's understandable ;) |
| 13:29:12 | sjhill | heh |
| 13:29:42 | sjhill | whoa...my computer clock is way off |
| 13:29:46 | sorphin | they just had a special here, 2 receivers, install, etc all for $1, and the dish top 50 for $10.88/month |
| 13:30:09 | sjhill | i believe...they're trying to build a customer base currently |
| 13:30:15 | sorphin | indeed |
| 13:31:03 | prpplague | sorphin: the echostar stuff has been giving us headaches here |
| 13:31:22 | prpplague | sorphin: we are getting very slow data downloads at some of customer sites |
| 13:32:44 | prpplague | sjhill: you trying to get started on uclinux? |
| 13:32:46 | sjhill | prpplague: so stop downloading pr0n |
| 13:32:52 | sjhill | prpplague: yep |
| 13:32:53 | prpplague | sjhill: lol |
| 13:33:00 | sorphin | sjhill: he shouldn't have ot stop downloading pr0n |
| 13:33:14 | sjhill | heh |
| 13:33:31 | prpplague | sjhill: what platform are you going to start with? |
| 13:33:35 | sjhill | prpplague: i have to do 3 different root filesystems for a customer |
| 13:33:40 | sjhill | prpplague: mips of course |
| 13:33:52 | prpplague | sjhill: lol, ok which board? |
| 13:34:16 | sjhill | prpplague: Broadcom specific...r5kc core LE |
| 13:36:10 | sjhill | ahha! |
| 13:36:24 | sjhill | 'uClinux-dist' NOT 'userland' |
| 13:38:41 | prpplague | speak the incandation of "uclinux" and the daemon appears(aka andersee) |
| 13:38:51 | andersee | muhahahaha |
| 13:39:49 | prpplague | andersee: do we need to kill a few chickens to send you back? |
| 13:41:54 | prpplague | sjhill: bummer, i was hoping you were using something off the shelf |
| 13:42:11 | prpplague | andersee: whats the best board for a uclinux-newbie to start with? |
| 13:43:07 | andersee | prpplague: Either one of the snapgear boxes or the arcturusnetworks boards. |
| 13:43:27 | prpplague | andersee: oh, like one of the snapgear lite's ? |
| 13:43:36 | andersee | sure. That works |
| 13:44:27 | prpplague | andersee: lol, cool, i've got a whole lot of them in inventory |
| 13:46:06 | prpplague | brb, mozilla is sick...... |
| 13:53:33 | kergoth | morning |
| 13:54:08 | sorphin | indeed |
| 13:56:05 | prpplague | kergoth: howdy |
| 13:56:10 | CosmicPenguin | andersee! How was the show? |
| 13:56:19 | prpplague | kergoth: hey did you get a copy of the z service manual? |
| 13:56:47 | kergoth | prpplague: yeah, i have it |
| 13:57:56 | prpplague | kergoth: i've got to get one soon, you have to sign an nda for it? |
| 13:58:16 | sorphin | prpplague: nda schmenda :P |
| 13:58:16 | kergoth | prpplague: yep. it has schematics and shit |
| 13:58:46 | kergoth | prpplague: they should split it up, create a doc for programming for the unit. with info on registers and the like, but with no schematics and details on locomo and scoop |
| 13:59:17 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: dunno. Didn't end up going. |
| 13:59:26 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: doh. |
| 13:59:34 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: just been programming lots then... haven't seen you around |
| 14:00:01 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Yup. I finally managed to finish a job I've been working on for the last yesr.... |
| 14:00:17 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: offically declared bug free yesterday. :) |
| 14:00:48 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: the same one that you've been working on lately? Congrats! |
| 14:01:10 | sorphin | andersee: till someone finds one you missed |
| 14:01:14 | sorphin | ;) |
| 14:02:04 | andersee | sorphin: I'm sure... |
| 14:02:31 | sorphin | i've yet to see truely 'bug free' code.. |
| 14:02:44 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: thx. I'd sortof put my uClibc work on hold for the past week. Time to get back to it. |
| 14:02:48 | sorphin | one person's feature is another's bug ;) |
| 14:02:59 | sorphin | just ask cisco |
| 14:03:01 | sorphin | :P |
| 14:03:12 | andersee | :) |
| 14:03:18 | sorphin | somethign we have as a flaw in our provisioning app |
| 14:03:26 | sorphin | they're trying to say needs to be a feature request |
| 14:03:40 | sorphin | when the app blatently isn't doing what it should |
| 14:03:54 | sjhill | reboots laptop so he can play alpha centauri |
| 14:04:15 | sjhill | yup...working REAL hard today...yessir |
| 14:04:33 | sorphin | sjhill: ditto :P i'm hiding from some ppl |
| 14:04:56 | sjhill | sorphin: i'm waiting for uClinux to check out from CVS...omg it's huge |
| 14:05:05 | sorphin | indeed |
| 14:05:10 | CosmicPenguin | thats ironic |
| 14:05:24 | sorphin | Morn: allo you |
| 14:05:46 | Morn | hi |
| 14:05:57 | Morn | I just upgraded my mandrake box to 9.0 |
| 14:05:58 | sjhill | lol @ CosmicPenguin |
| 14:06:20 | sorphin | Morn: cool, i'm about to install irix on the I2 finally |
| 14:06:41 | andersee | prpplague: was it you that was getting a dreamcast ready for devel? |
| 14:06:46 | sorphin | no |
| 14:06:48 | sorphin | twas me |
| 14:06:51 | Morn | I might get an indigo 2 (a friend just replaced them with Octane 2's) |
| 14:06:54 | prpplague | andersee: negative |
| 14:07:05 | sorphin | Morn: teal or purple? |
| 14:07:12 | Morn | I can't believe he bought 4 Octane 2's |
| 14:07:15 | Morn | it's purple |
| 14:07:20 | sorphin | andersee: sorry bout the delay :/ |
| 14:07:26 | sorphin | Morn: bah :P i hate you now :P |
| 14:07:35 | Morn | frowns |
| 14:07:54 | sorphin | thinks about the teal I2 at home |
| 14:07:58 | sorphin | blahs |
| 14:08:22 | sjhill | complete checkout of uClinux-dist is 225MB...*gurgle* |
| 14:08:29 | andersee | sorphin: ahh |
| 14:08:36 | prpplague | kergoth: on the cf slot are both slot select pins available, or did they use the second line for something? |
| 14:08:49 | andersee | sorphin: I bought a dreamcast on ebay last week. :) |
| 14:08:52 | sorphin | andersee: been getting beaten to death by wortk since i got bakc fro mholiday |
| 14:08:54 | kergoth | prpplague: i dont believe they use the second, but let me doublecheck |
| 14:09:00 | andersee | sorphin: Did you get ssh running on yours? |
| 14:09:26 | sjhill | sorphin: has anyone got the graphics on the Dreamcast working? |
| 14:09:29 | sorphin | didn't try ssh, but shouldn't be a prob.. |
| 14:09:48 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, yeah, i think so.. |
| 14:10:16 | andersee | sorphin: are you building everything from scratch? Or using a pre-built something? |
| 14:10:58 | sorphin | andersee: um.. there's a slightly old (but sitll 2.4) dreamcast linux image (whole dist) |
| 14:11:54 | andersee | sorphin: This one? http://www.m17n.org/linux-sh/dreamcast/distribution |
| 14:11:59 | sorphin | aye |
| 14:12:24 | andersee | sorphin: ok cool. I got that one booting yesterday evening. |
| 14:12:25 | sorphin | i have that, plus a bunch of stuff scanline tossed me |
| 14:12:40 | sorphin | cool |
| 14:12:59 | sorphin | like gcc |
| 14:13:04 | sorphin | uclibc ;) |
| 14:13:12 | sorphin | tho old |
| 14:13:13 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: didn't you have a working dreamcast? |
| 14:13:14 | scanline | sjhill: linux framebuffer works, but no acceleration under linux |
| 14:13:25 | sorphin | scanline: speak of the devil ;) |
| 14:13:51 | scanline | sorphin: wouldn't have noticed the dreamcast conversation except that you mentioned my nick :) |
| 14:13:57 | scanline | xchat kinda hilights channels when you do that |
| 14:14:17 | sorphin | indeed ;) |
| 14:14:19 | CosmicPenguin | scanline: you can make it hilite for other keywords, though.... |
| 14:14:27 | CosmicPenguin | for example, Microwindows... |
| 14:14:29 | scanline | true.. |
| 14:14:30 | scanline | hehe |
| 14:14:32 | sorphin | shivers |
| 14:14:33 | CosmicPenguin | That hilites mine |
| 14:14:44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: who the hell would wanna talk about microwindows tho? ;) |
| 14:14:46 | scanline | should add a bunch of GUI and embedded linux stuff to his hilight list |
| 14:15:06 | sorphin | makes sure not to mention PICOGUI |
| 14:15:10 | sorphin | grins |
| 14:15:23 | prpplague | scanline: you need to get that text widget done, so i can get started on some pos stuff! |
| 14:15:36 | scanline | prpplague: terminal or textbox? |
| 14:15:53 | scanline | tests his hilighting |
| 14:15:54 | scanline | dreamcast |
| 14:15:59 | scanline | hm... |
| 14:16:04 | scanline | someone else say it :) |
| 14:16:07 | sorphin | scanline: picogui |
| 14:16:10 | sorphin | dreamcast |
| 14:16:13 | scanline | ah, cool |
| 14:16:21 | scanline | wonders if it works under xchat-picogui too... |
| 14:17:12 | prpplague | scanline: textbox |
| 14:17:34 | prpplague | scanline: i've already started looking at adding all the correct esc codes to the terminal |
| 14:17:36 | scanline | prpplague: ok. just that I thought you mentioned you needed a terminal emulator that works.. |
| 14:17:51 | scanline | prpplague: on a whim I cleaned up the terminal emulator code and added some new escape codes this morning |
| 14:18:05 | prpplague | scanline: problems is time and motivation, currently my day job is sucking the intelligence and life out of me |
| 14:18:13 | scanline | prpplague: if I implement the scrolling escape codes, it should be enough for emacs or vim |
| 14:18:14 | scanline | nods |
| 14:21:24 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: i had some trouble getting my dreamcast to work |
| 14:21:43 | CosmicPenguin | true or false: The charater console in linux is more ANSI compliant than the framebuffer console |
| 14:21:47 | signal11 | i'll dig it out again one of these days |
| 14:23:38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: true |
| 14:24:14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: frame doesn't support asni functions such as flashing text and some extended ibm grpahics line modes |
| 14:24:15 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... but I wanted the progress patch though |
| 14:24:46 | sorphin | well, no one needs flashing text ;) |
| 14:24:52 | sorphin | and anyone that does needs to be shot anyways |
| 14:24:52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: frame or char has been a nightmare for me on the geode due to that fact |
| 14:25:36 | prpplague | sorphin: you do if you are running point of sale and you need to mark something of interest (i.e. sale price, under stock, wrong price) |
| 14:25:56 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: lots of legacy apps use blinking text, and quite effectively too |
| 14:25:57 | sorphin | prpplague: well, i don't work on POS equipment ;) |
| 14:26:23 | prpplague | sorphin: and you should be thankful for that! |
| 14:28:00 | CosmicPenguin | has to stick term 4 linux on this geode POS (not point of sale, but the other abbreviation) |
| 14:28:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fun |
| 14:31:19 | sorphin | fights w/ nfs, once again |
| 14:31:36 | sorphin | NFS, the other pos :P |
| 14:32:22 | sorphin | theoretically, if you export a dir, you should be able to mount any dirs under it, no? or do you have to export those seperate? |
| 14:32:39 | sorphin | i.e.: |
| 14:32:40 | sorphin | mount giga.rfc:/mnt/overlays1/stand /mnt |
| 14:32:56 | sorphin | Sep 26 10:36:39 giga rpc.kmountd: getfh failed: Operation not permitted |
| 14:33:06 | sorphin | which of course means, it's not exported right |
| 14:33:18 | sorphin | for the mounting host to access it |
| 14:35:05 | sorphin | doh |
| 14:35:12 | sorphin | i see.. it's trying to tftp, not nfs.. |
| 14:38:29 | scanline | is away: "breakfast" |
| 15:00:10 | scanline | is back (gone 00:21:41) |
| 15:00:29 | sorphin | kicks this stubborn I2 |
| 15:04:31 | sorphin | Nermal: eek |
| 15:04:35 | Nermal | lo :) |
| 15:04:56 | sorphin | argues w/ remote irix installation |
| 15:06:56 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:07:07 | sorphin | rc5-64 finally broken.. bout time |
| 15:09:44 | CosmicPenguin | They are saying that if they tried to break it again starting today, it would take half the time |
| 15:10:09 | sorphin | yeah |
| 15:11:00 | CosmicPenguin | Moores law in action |
| 15:12:39 | sorphin | indeed |
| 15:46:19 | scanline | is away: class |
| 16:03:07 | sorphin | grrr |
| 16:07:53 | prpplague | eeaat |
| 16:57:18 | sorphin | legodude: well |
| 16:57:33 | sorphin | got all 13 isos burned, and found out the cds use EFS (which i didn't know)... |
| 16:57:49 | sorphin | got 8 of em loopfs mounted (so i don't need the cds themselves) |
| 16:58:01 | sorphin | but it's being stubborn to get the remote install going |
| 16:58:12 | sorphin | keeps bitching about my SystemPartation format.. |
| 16:58:59 | legodude | hrm |
| 16:59:16 | legodude | irix is known to be a bitch to install |
| 16:59:19 | sorphin | Bad device format in $SystemPartition |
| 16:59:28 | legodude | wtf |
| 16:59:36 | sorphin | that's right after tftping dist/sa |
| 16:59:47 | sorphin | i ran fx to repartition.. |
| 16:59:49 | legodude | you're trying a net install then? |
| 16:59:57 | sorphin | SystemPartition is currently set to: |
| 17:00:09 | sorphin | SystemPartition=scsi(0)disk(1)rdisk(0)partition(8) |
| 17:00:12 | sorphin | yes |
| 17:00:19 | sorphin | im going to |
| 17:00:20 | legodude | http://www.futuretech.vuurwerk.nl/netboot.html |
| 17:00:22 | sorphin | no choice |
| 17:00:24 | legodude | have you seen that? |
| 17:00:34 | sorphin | i can't use my scsi cdrom |
| 17:00:40 | sorphin | no sca connector for it |
| 17:00:44 | sorphin | and the I2 is all SCA |
| 17:00:49 | sorphin | nope, didn't see tthat |
| 17:00:49 | legodude | no |
| 17:00:56 | legodude | I2 is not sca |
| 17:00:59 | legodude | it's like sca |
| 17:01:02 | sorphin | well |
| 17:01:04 | legodude | but not sca |
| 17:01:05 | sorphin | lemme rephrase |
| 17:01:12 | legodude | you can't plug it in |
| 17:01:13 | sorphin | it's NOT usable w/ my cdrom as is :P |
| 17:01:17 | legodude | ja |
| 17:01:21 | legodude | I get cha |
| 17:01:54 | sorphin | go access to you box atm that you can look in your prom? |
| 17:01:59 | sorphin | got even |
| 17:02:32 | legodude | whatcha need me to look at? |
| 17:02:48 | sorphin | what your SystemPartition is set to :P |
| 17:02:56 | legodude | k |
| 17:02:57 | legodude | one sec |
| 17:04:11 | legodude | where is that? |
| 17:04:15 | legodude | I'm in prom right not |
| 17:04:16 | legodude | now |
| 17:04:27 | sorphin | command monitor |
| 17:04:30 | sorphin | printenv |
| 17:05:08 | legodude | I don't see |
| 17:05:19 | sorphin | wha tyou got? |
| 17:06:01 | legodude | this is gonna flood methinks |
| 17:06:02 | legodude | >> printenv |
| 17:06:02 | legodude | AutoLoad=Yes |
| 17:06:02 | legodude | console=g |
| 17:06:02 | legodude | diskless=0 |
| 17:06:02 | legodude | dbaud=9600 |
| 17:06:04 | legodude | volume=80 |
| 17:06:06 | legodude | sgilogo=y |
| 17:06:08 | legodude | autopower=y |
| 17:06:10 | legodude | netaddr=192.168.0.234 |
| 17:06:12 | legodude | eaddr=08:00:69:0a:10:dd |
| 17:06:14 | legodude | boottune=1 |
| 17:06:16 | legodude | cpufreq=174 |
| 17:06:17 | legodude | NoAutoLoad=CONSOLE OPEN FAILED. |
| 17:06:20 | legodude | ConsoleOut=serial(0) |
| 17:06:22 | legodude | ConsoleIn=serial(0) |
| 17:06:24 | legodude | >> |
| 17:06:26 | legodude | you get all that? |
| 17:06:26 | sorphin | k |
| 17:06:28 | sorphin | yeah |
| 17:06:35 | legodude | ooh |
| 17:06:36 | legodude | I know why |
| 17:06:38 | legodude | one sec |
| 17:06:42 | sorphin | ? |
| 17:06:49 | legodude | I think it's cause there is no disk attached |
| 17:06:53 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:06:55 | sorphin | maybe |
| 17:07:27 | sorphin | this thing on every boot keeps attempting to find a keyboard 1st :P |
| 17:07:45 | legodude | damn is this comp loud |
| 17:07:53 | sorphin | BZFlag: ack! it's LineoMan ;) |
| 17:08:24 | legodude | nope |
| 17:08:28 | legodude | no sys partition |
| 17:08:41 | sorphin | maybe i should just resetenv ? :P |
| 17:08:51 | legodude | possibly |
| 17:09:01 | legodude | brb |
| 17:09:03 | sorphin | k |
| 17:10:21 | sorphin | btw.. my 4 sunpci cards are jus tgonna be shipping today, bastards dropped the ball, cuz the original guy that mailed me the total, left the damn company.. heh |
| 17:17:20 | legodude | sucks for the delay |
| 17:17:29 | sorphin | yup |
| 17:17:34 | sorphin | don't forget |
| 17:17:44 | sorphin | the celeron 600 ones end saturday ;) |
| 17:17:53 | sorphin | yay |
| 17:17:55 | legodude | does that installing irix thing say anything about systempartition? |
| 17:18:03 | sorphin | Copying installation program to disk. |
| 17:18:04 | legodude | problem is my u30 is at home and I'm here |
| 17:18:09 | sorphin | works now |
| 17:18:16 | sorphin | i did a resetenv |
| 17:18:16 | legodude | and my two dlink routers seem to have trouble with certain kinds of connections |
| 17:18:27 | legodude | they always drop the ssh sessions |
| 17:18:32 | sorphin | points up |
| 17:18:55 | legodude | wha? |
| 17:19:02 | sorphin | resetenv fixed it |
| 17:19:05 | legodude | ja |
| 17:19:07 | legodude | I got that |
| 17:19:11 | sorphin | i'm not in hte miniroot install stuff :) |
| 17:19:14 | sorphin | now even |
| 17:19:29 | sorphin | Make new file system on /dev/dsk/dks0d1s0 [yes/no/sh/help]: |
| 17:19:30 | sorphin | :) |
| 17:19:58 | sorphin | hmm |
| 17:20:14 | sorphin | 512 bytes or 4096 bytes ? |
| 17:20:30 | sorphin | block size |
| 17:20:40 | legodude | ja |
| 17:20:41 | legodude | no idea |
| 17:20:52 | sorphin | randomly picks 512 |
| 17:21:06 | sorphin | coo |
| 17:21:10 | legodude | ian says 512 |
| 17:21:12 | sorphin | Invoking sw install |
| 17:21:18 | sorphin | looks like i'm gonna be ok |
| 17:21:51 | legodude | thinks about net install |
| 17:21:52 | sorphin | here i was fighting w/ nfs earlier, and here i found out that it bootp booted.. but i still need to fix nfs so it can hit the cds |
| 17:22:07 | legodude | you mean tftp booted? |
| 17:22:31 | sorphin | well, yeah, but it bootps 1st |
| 17:22:44 | legodude | ja |
| 17:23:01 | legodude | I think I will netinstall |
| 17:23:03 | sorphin | i am now at Inst> :) |
| 17:23:19 | sorphin | hey, i netinstalled linux on here before |
| 17:23:21 | legodude | still wants a fddi card for his octane |
| 17:23:22 | sorphin | painlessly |
| 17:23:35 | legodude | that;s coo |
| 17:23:59 | legodude | non-solaris netinstalls usually give me trouble |
| 17:24:06 | legodude | like I've only gotten openbsd to do it once |
| 17:24:20 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:25:30 | sorphin | welp, now i have to sort out this stupid nfs permissions problem.. |
| 17:25:36 | sorphin | grr i hate knfs |
| 17:25:47 | legodude | knfs? |
| 17:25:51 | legodude | shit\ |
| 17:25:52 | sorphin | kernel nfs |
| 17:25:56 | legodude | has nfs problems too |
| 17:26:08 | legodude | why? |
| 17:26:14 | sorphin | why what? |
| 17:26:19 | legodude | why you hate it? |
| 17:26:30 | legodude | linux and solaris have problems with ip frag |
| 17:26:34 | sorphin | cuz i actually have to exportfs, etc now... |
| 17:26:41 | sorphin | legodude: fyi |
| 17:26:54 | sorphin | i had to do the ip_*pmtu thing |
| 17:27:04 | legodude | what's that? |
| 17:27:06 | sorphin | as always for anything that tftps :P |
| 17:27:17 | sorphin | if you don't set that true, in proc |
| 17:27:26 | sorphin | tftp will generally fail on big files |
| 17:27:32 | legodude | ooh |
| 17:27:40 | legodude | that might have explained some problems I was having back in the day |
| 17:27:55 | legodude | I use solaris for tftp server now |
| 17:28:02 | sorphin | /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_no_pmtu_disc |
| 17:28:17 | sorphin | as do i, usually |
| 17:28:21 | legodude | you create that file? |
| 17:28:22 | legodude | or what? |
| 17:28:38 | sorphin | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_no_pmtu_disc |
| 17:28:46 | legodude | k |
| 17:31:28 | legodude | oooh |
| 17:31:33 | legodude | wonderful |
| 17:31:38 | sorphin | ? |
| 17:31:39 | legodude | that works for my fddi problems too methinks |
| 17:31:45 | sorphin | coo |
| 17:31:48 | legodude | just looking at what I had to change for solaris |
| 17:31:59 | legodude | unfortunatly I can't connect to network at home |
| 17:32:12 | sorphin | obviously, i can :P |
| 17:32:23 | sorphin | beats nfs w/ a large stick |
| 17:32:30 | sorphin | stop arguing w/ me :P |
| 17:32:47 | legodude | hehe |
| 17:32:51 | sorphin | legodude: correct me if i'm wrong |
| 17:32:59 | sorphin | when you export say.... /mnt |
| 17:33:16 | sorphin | anything mounted under /mnt will be exported too for nfs mounting, no? |
| 17:33:19 | legodude | ja |
| 17:33:33 | prpplague | andersee: that article on linuxdevices.com regarding uclinux seems to give you some good pr |
| 17:33:34 | legodude | that's how every nfs I've ever used works |
| 17:33:36 | sorphin | doesn't seem to be the case |
| 17:33:54 | legodude | maybe there is a no subdir option somehwere |
| 17:33:56 | sorphin | i have all 8 cd loopfs's mounted under /mnt |
| 17:34:02 | sorphin | i.e. |
| 17:34:06 | legodude | ooh |
| 17:34:10 | sorphin | /mnt/overlays1 |
| 17:34:11 | sorphin | /mnt/overlays2 |
| 17:34:12 | legodude | that might be a problem somehow |
| 17:34:13 | sorphin | etc |
| 17:34:20 | legodude | I don't see why it would be |
| 17:34:31 | legodude | can you connect from say, another linux or solaris machine? |
| 17:34:34 | sorphin | ah ha |
| 17:34:45 | sorphin | or as you'd say |
| 17:34:45 | legodude | ? |
| 17:34:46 | sorphin | ahso |
| 17:34:48 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:34:51 | legodude | hehe |
| 17:34:56 | sorphin | need to flag it 'nohide' |
| 17:35:08 | legodude | it doesn't do that by default? |
| 17:35:12 | sorphin | no |
| 17:35:18 | legodude | wtf |
| 17:35:20 | legodude | mine does |
| 17:35:32 | sorphin | nohide This option is based on the option of the same name |
| 17:35:32 | sorphin | provided in IRIX NFS. Normally, if a server |
| 17:35:32 | sorphin | exports two filesystems one of which is mounted on |
| 17:35:32 | sorphin | the other, then the client will have to mount both |
| 17:35:32 | sorphin | filesystems explicitly to get access to them. If |
| 17:35:32 | sorphin | it just mounts the parent, it will see an empty |
| 17:35:34 | sorphin | directory at the place where the other filesystem |
| 17:35:36 | sorphin | is mounted. That filesystem is "hidden". |
| 17:36:20 | sorphin | fsck |
| 17:36:22 | legodude | ahso |
| 17:36:23 | sorphin | dammmit |
| 17:36:36 | sorphin | still got the fscking errors |
| 17:36:42 | sorphin | -s |
| 17:36:47 | sorphin | can't getfh |
| 17:36:50 | sorphin | which means |
| 17:36:52 | legodude | have you looked at the nfs faq? |
| 17:36:55 | andersee | prpplague: :-) |
| 17:36:58 | sorphin | sorry, you don't have permission |
| 17:37:00 | andersee | prpplague: so it seems |
| 17:37:26 | legodude | sorphin: that's what it says? |
| 17:37:28 | sorphin | legodude: i had to deal w/ this once before recently and it was a pain then too |
| 17:37:33 | legodude | what's your /etc/exports file? |
| 17:37:38 | sorphin | [root@wibble ~]# mount giga.rfc:/mnt/overlays1/stand /mnt |
| 17:37:38 | sorphin | mount: giga.rfc:/mnt/overlays1/stand failed, reason given by server: Permission denied |
| 17:37:47 | sorphin | /mnt 192.168.1.0/24(rw,no_root_squash,nohide) |
| 17:37:53 | sorphin | and exportfs says: |
| 17:38:01 | sorphin | /mnt 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 17:38:10 | legodude | hrm |
| 17:38:30 | prpplague | andersee: i've got to get up to speed on uclinux, looks likes its starting the heat up on the development end |
| 17:38:32 | sorphin | and of course |
| 17:38:36 | sorphin | the log says: |
| 17:38:37 | sorphin | Sep 26 13:42:41 giga rpc.kmountd: authenticated mount request from wibble.rfc.captainrock.com:635 for /mnt/overlays1/stand (/mnt) |
| 17:38:37 | sorphin | Sep 26 13:42:41 giga rpc.kmountd: getfh failed: Operation not permitted |
| 17:38:52 | sorphin | which means, you don't have permission to mount that, biotch |
| 17:39:09 | legodude | what's getfh? |
| 17:39:18 | sorphin | get filehandle |
| 17:39:20 | legodude | k |
| 17:39:23 | legodude | that's what I tought |
| 17:39:31 | sorphin | you dunno how far i had to dig |
| 17:39:38 | sorphin | just to find out whta this meant |
| 17:39:39 | legodude | haha |
| 17:39:59 | legodude | that means the linux machine is not permitting the sgi to mount its disks? |
| 17:40:11 | sorphin | well, not that dir anyways |
| 17:41:32 | andersee | prpplague: uclinux can be nice. |
| 17:41:45 | andersee | prpplague: can also be a royal pain in the butt... |
| 17:42:25 | prpplague | andersee: well, i've got to find a board thats relatively friendly, i've got a snapgear lite here, i'm hoping that will od |
| 17:42:30 | prpplague | s/od/do |
| 17:42:46 | andersee | prpplague: Whether it is worth it or not really depends if the product volume will be sufficiently huge that the cost of an mmu will really make a difference |
| 17:43:04 | andersee | prpplague: that should do just fine. Those are coldfire iirc |
| 17:43:06 | Russ|werk | hey andersee |
| 17:43:11 | andersee | Russ|werk: hey |
| 17:43:16 | prpplague | andersee: ya coldfire |
| 17:43:19 | legodude | sorphin: maybe chmod -R 777 *? |
| 17:43:46 | sorphin | eh.. i'll figure it out eventually |
| 17:43:55 | Russ|werk | andersee: isn't memory usage a lot less efficient without an mmu? (no cow/shared pages) |
| 17:44:07 | legodude | I'm looking in google groups and that was a suggestion |
| 17:44:13 | legodude | seems to have fixed one person's problem |
| 17:44:25 | andersee | Russ|werk: that is true |
| 17:44:40 | sorphin | can't |
| 17:44:44 | sorphin | r/o fs's :P |
| 17:44:50 | andersee | Russ|werk: on the other hand, _everything_ is shared. So some types of things are easier |
| 17:45:02 | legodude | you can't mount isos rw? |
| 17:45:09 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:45:13 | Russ|werk | andersee: have you looked into integrated those bb patches? |
| 17:45:17 | andersee | Russ|werk: like you can write user space device drivers |
| 17:45:35 | sorphin | legodude: if you could, you wouldn't ever need to remkisofs :P |
| 17:45:46 | andersee | Russ|werk: not yet. I just finished a major project yesterday. So far today I've been doing all the paperwork I've been procrastinating. |
| 17:48:20 | sorphin | legodude: it's definately the subdir issue, cuz i can mount /mnt irectly |
| 17:48:23 | Russ|werk | I'll post it to bugs.busybox.net so its out there |
| 17:48:49 | legodude | sorphin: maybe you should copy everything from iso to a real directory? |
| 17:48:57 | sorphin | grr |
| 17:49:00 | legodude | and not bother with trying to mount loopbacked stuff? |
| 17:49:08 | andersee | Russ|werk: yes, thats best |
| 17:49:43 | sorphin | legodude: more time wasting and disk space on the server that i don't have.. hell, the isos are on a diff box as it is.... |
| 17:50:08 | legodude | sorphin: you're loopbacking stuff from nfs and then reexporting it? |
| 17:50:25 | sorphin | pretty much |
| 17:50:33 | legodude | brave brave man |
| 17:50:37 | sorphin | i.e. |
| 17:50:39 | sorphin | /bigdrive/irix/overlays/overlays1of3+inst.iso |
| 17:50:40 | sorphin | 509952 500172 9780 99% /mnt/overlays1 |
| 17:50:51 | sorphin | /bigdrive is an nfs mount |
| 17:51:04 | legodude | that is more complex than I like |
| 17:51:05 | sorphin | only drive i have decent space atm |
| 17:51:07 | legodude | it should work in theory |
| 17:51:07 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:51:09 | legodude | but... |
| 17:52:37 | legodude | fux0r |
| 17:52:56 | legodude | still running into nfs problems |
| 17:53:00 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:53:11 | sorphin | whats yours? |
| 17:53:20 | legodude | well |
| 17:53:25 | legodude | ipfrag related |
| 17:53:36 | legodude | I have a fddi and fast ethernet network |
| 17:53:56 | legodude | and the 4500-1500 frames cause problems with nfs and fragmentation |
| 17:54:01 | legodude | I fixed it on solaris somehow |
| 17:54:11 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:54:19 | sorphin | sticks w/ one network :P |
| 17:55:05 | legodude | I found the fix I did to get fddi to work with sol9 in the first place |
| 17:55:15 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:56:56 | legodude | echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_no_pmtu_disc |
| 17:57:01 | legodude | what does that do exactly? |
| 17:57:16 | legodude | turns off ip path mtu discovery? |
| 17:57:17 | legodude | er |
| 17:57:20 | legodude | turns on |
| 17:57:40 | sorphin | notice |
| 17:57:46 | sorphin | the _no_ |
| 17:57:50 | legodude | er |
| 17:57:51 | legodude | hehe |
| 17:57:53 | legodude | turns off |
| 17:57:54 | sorphin | turns off |
| 17:58:03 | legodude | that's what I want then |
| 17:58:15 | legodude | I did the same thing on solaris and nfs started working |
| 17:58:29 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:59:08 | legodude | is there a ssh break command like ctrl ] ? |
| 18:02:17 | legodude | mount_nfs: bad MNT RPC: RPC: Timed out |
| 18:02:19 | legodude | wtf does that mean |
| 18:06:21 | Russ|werk | legodude: ya |
| 18:06:22 | Russ|werk | there is |
| 18:06:32 | Russ|werk | legodude: maybe you don't have rpc? |
| 18:07:10 | legodude | I can nfs stuff fine over fddi |
| 18:07:16 | legodude | just when connecting ethernet |
| 18:07:18 | legodude | stuff breaks |
| 18:07:31 | legodude | that's when trying to connect to a Solaris NFS server |
| 18:07:40 | legodude | other clients can connect to the solaris server fine |
| 18:07:54 | legodude | my HP xterms can connect fine |
| 18:08:55 | legodude | oh well |
| 18:09:06 | legodude | seems I won't be able to netinstall irix from the linux server |
| 18:09:15 | legodude | maybe the solaris one will work |
| 18:12:56 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:13:07 | sorphin | i won't be doing it either till my nfs perms are fixed :P |
| 18:13:35 | Russ|werk | andersee: can you make cvs commit messages show a unified diff? |
| 18:14:33 | sorphin | Morn: re julie |
| 18:14:36 | Russ|werk | yikes...somewhere along the line smtp ate my patches |
| 18:14:39 | Morn | re's |
| 18:14:41 | Russ|werk | s/-/=3D |
| 18:15:15 | Russ|werk | er |
| 18:15:22 | Russ|werk | s/=/=3D/ |
| 18:15:39 | prpplague | Russ|werk: doh |
| 18:16:00 | Russ|werk | well, if someone just dumps them through mimetools, it'll come out |
| 18:16:02 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i've found that alot lately on patches from digi |
| 18:17:49 | Russ|werk | and s/\\n\\n/\\n=20\\n/ |
| 18:17:52 | legodude | anybody know of a free 2d cad program that works nice with windows? |
| 18:18:06 | Russ|werk | cad for what? |
| 18:18:20 | legodude | just wanna draw up some wood plans |
| 18:18:32 | legodude | very basic stuff needed |
| 18:20:15 | Russ|werk | qcad maybe? |
| 18:20:19 | legodude | ja |
| 18:20:21 | Russ|werk | I'm trying it out now |
| 18:20:25 | legodude | that's what I was trying to remember |
| 18:20:28 | legodude | I'm getting it now |
| 18:20:58 | Russ|werk | looks pretty nice |
| 18:22:01 | Russ|werk | http://www.qcad.org/img/qcadscreen11.png |
| 18:22:09 | Russ|werk | geez, people use this for some pretty cool stuff |
| 18:22:44 | Russ|werk | I'm liking how more and more, there is cool software for linux, that gets ported to windows (as apposed to vice versa) |
| 18:24:39 | legodude | ja |
| 18:26:44 | legodude | what's a 2x4s actual width? |
| 18:27:02 | legodude | 1.5? |
| 18:27:07 | sorphin | 1.5x3.5 approx |
| 18:27:15 | sorphin | if memory serves |
| 18:27:25 | legodude | thanks |
| 18:27:43 | sorphin | now "unpacks" the isos... grrr |
| 18:27:57 | legodude | my roommate is gonna hate me |
| 18:28:03 | sorphin | why? |
| 18:28:26 | legodude | cause I'm building a huge desk in my room |
| 18:28:34 | legodude | and he doesn |
| 18:28:34 | sorphin | ah |
| 18:28:37 | mallum | out of lego ? |
| 18:28:43 | sorphin | mallum: prolly |
| 18:28:44 | legodude | 't like to feel claustrophonic |
| 18:28:50 | legodude | mallum: yes |
| 18:28:51 | legodude | of course |
| 18:28:53 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:28:57 | legodude | duplo actually |
| 18:29:23 | sorphin | made any lego puter cases yet? :P |
| 18:29:47 | andersee | Russ|werk: I probably can. I've not figured out how to do that yet. |
| 18:30:33 | legodude | nope |
| 18:30:34 | mallum | doh I hate hitting the sleep keep |
| 18:30:37 | mallum | key |
| 18:30:49 | sorphin | so don't and you won't fall asleep :P |
| 18:31:16 | mallum | sorphin: witness the speed of a powerpc sleep wakeup cycle |
| 18:31:39 | sorphin | must not be a 403gcx ;) |
| 18:31:50 | legodude | qcad is a bit funky |
| 18:31:59 | legodude | not so intuitive as I would have liked |
| 18:33:04 | mallum | legodude: anit there some lego cad program ? |
| 18:33:12 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:33:14 | legodude | couple actually |
| 18:33:18 | legodude | lego makes one |
| 18:33:23 | sorphin | then use it :P |
| 18:33:25 | legodude | then there are various freeware ones |
| 18:33:34 | legodude | I did for a paper for german 2years ago |
| 18:33:46 | legodude | I did a children's book illustrations in lego cad |
| 18:35:15 | mallum | so you really are lego dude then ? |
| 18:36:15 | legodude | yup |
| 18:36:52 | sorphin | legodude: does hammycorp mean anything to you? |
| 18:36:54 | sorphin | grins |
| 18:37:03 | legodude | hehe |
| 18:37:07 | legodude | yup |
| 18:37:15 | legodude | that would be my domain name :) |
| 18:37:15 | mallum | legodude: you have a webpage with your 'creations' ? |
| 18:37:18 | sorphin | From legodude@hammycorp.com |
| 18:37:23 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:37:45 | legodude | nope mallum |
| 18:37:50 | legodude | got no time no more to build |
| 18:37:53 | legodude | and no decent digicam |
| 18:38:43 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:38:51 | sorphin | legodude: title: CEO |
| 18:38:54 | sorphin | cute |
| 18:39:07 | legodude | haha |
| 18:39:14 | legodude | my friend and I were really bored a couple years ago |
| 18:39:23 | legodude | and I have a pet hamster |
| 18:40:55 | legodude | likes qcad now |
| 18:41:04 | legodude | it seemed to have gotten confused a while ago |
| 18:41:07 | legodude | then I restarted and it works much better |
| 19:16:54 | sorphin | legodude: heh, funny |
| 19:17:02 | sorphin | 2 of the cds are iso9660 |
| 19:55:16 | sorphin | anyone awake? |
| 19:55:46 | levi_ | Kind of. |
| 19:56:26 | sorphin | seems this solaris net install is trying to hit on port 514 (which my /etc/services shows as shell/syslog).. which doesn't make sense for pulling files.. |
| 19:56:35 | sorphin | s/solaris/irix/ |
| 19:56:48 | sorphin | sorry, not completely alive, work takes care of that.. |
| 19:56:58 | sorphin | know of anything else that would live on 514 ? |
| 19:57:47 | levi_ | Nothing I'm aware of... not that I'm aware of much relating to irix. Maybe it's trying to send syslog messages about its progress? |
| 19:58:17 | sorphin | ERROR: Can't set up network connection to host 192.168.1.10: 192.168.1.10: Conn |
| 19:58:17 | sorphin | ection refused |
| 19:58:24 | sorphin | and tcpdump shows 514, so.... |
| 19:59:00 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:59:16 | sorphin | it's trying to rsh? wtf... (rsh seems to be the 514 tcp) |
| 20:04:43 | levi_ | Weird. |
| 20:09:29 | sorphin | levi_: welp, i've confirmed it's rsh'ing (i turned it on), but i dunno how to tell what login it's attempting |
| 20:09:50 | sorphin | syslog only logs the connection |
| 20:10:49 | levi | Hrm. tcpdump again? |
| 20:11:15 | sorphin | won't log the user name attempted.. |
| 20:14:55 | sorphin | heh, ok, the auth log shows it.. |
| 20:14:59 | sorphin | now this.. bothers me... |
| 20:15:07 | sorphin | rsh denied to root@indigo2.rfc.captainrock.com as root: cmd='exec /bin/sh'; Permission denied. |
| 20:15:29 | sorphin | it should not be rshing to the nfs/tftp server |
| 20:18:52 | levi | Yeah, that's screwy. |
| 20:19:23 | sorphin | guess i'll have to wait till legodude comes back or someone else who's irixy (or my friend logs on elsewhere) |
| 20:24:01 | sorphin | legodude: read above |
| 20:24:16 | sorphin | wtf is the irix installer rshing to my nfs/tftp box |
| 20:24:21 | sorphin | and doing exec /bin/sh ? |
| 20:25:20 | legodude | just got done reading |
| 20:25:26 | legodude | lemme read some stuff |
| 20:25:48 | legodude | wtf |
| 20:26:16 | legodude | Network installs have two components. First, the miniroot is loaded via TFTP. After that, packages are retrieved from a remote machine using rsh. |
| 20:26:24 | sorphin | wtf |
| 20:26:33 | legodude | The initial portion requires a bootp/tftp server be correctly configured on the subnet the machine is being installed on. (instructions on setting this up are further down on this page.) The installation process requires that the source machine have rsh & rlogin "open", and the target machine, and the user root must be in the source machine's ~guest/.rhosts file. |
| 20:26:56 | sorphin | well, it's not using guest |
| 20:27:01 | sorphin | it's using root |
| 20:27:22 | sorphin | the netinstall page |
| 20:27:26 | sorphin | doesn't mention rsh at all |
| 20:27:30 | legodude | I know |
| 20:27:33 | sorphin | it says it's ALL pulled via tftp |
| 20:27:36 | legodude | this is another netinstall page |
| 20:27:40 | sorphin | i had ot tcpdump |
| 20:27:47 | sorphin | just to find out what it was doing |
| 20:27:47 | sorphin | yeah |
| 20:27:52 | sorphin | i'm looking at google groups now |
| 20:28:11 | sorphin | thank god i only install once this way :P |
| 20:28:22 | sorphin | tho |
| 20:28:23 | sorphin | Install software from: [192.168.1.10:/bigdrive/irixisosundone/overlays1/dist] |
| 20:28:24 | sorphin | ERROR: Lost connection to 192.168.1.10 |
| 20:28:30 | sorphin | doesn't help any |
| 20:28:34 | legodude | wtf |
| 20:29:05 | legodude | http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&threadm=272a4ef3.0205231535.572ff02b%40posting.google.com&rnum=2&prev=/groups%3Fhl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DUTF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8%26q%3Dirix%2Bnet%2Binstall%2Brsh%26sa%3DN%26tab%3Dwg |
| 20:29:08 | legodude | read that |
| 20:29:15 | sorphin | interesting... it uses rsh for aLINUX server |
| 20:29:17 | legodude | exactly what I'm going to be doing |
| 20:29:18 | sorphin | for an irix server |
| 20:29:20 | sorphin | it doesn't |
| 20:29:43 | legodude | that howto looks awesome |
| 20:29:45 | legodude | so strange |
| 20:30:56 | sorphin | that's odd.. guess they don't wanna use linux tftp/nfs for some reason.. |
| 20:31:10 | legodude | how the hell would it know there is a linux host |
| 20:31:21 | sorphin | i dunno.. |
| 20:31:25 | legodude | damn is irix braindead at times |
| 20:31:33 | sorphin | but noticed |
| 20:31:39 | sorphin | SGi server or Linux server |
| 20:31:42 | sorphin | and onl ythe Linux server |
| 20:31:47 | sorphin | has this extra crap |
| 20:33:45 | sorphin | apt-gets pdksh |
| 20:40:27 | sorphin | here's one for debiancentric ppl (like me) http://dbz.icequake.net/share/doc/sgi/irix/linux-irix-network-install.txt |
| 20:40:39 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:40:41 | sorphin | or not.. |
| 20:41:11 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:41:19 | sorphin | now it works |
| 20:51:10 | scanline | is back (gone 05:04:53) |
| 21:18:21 | legodude | it installing for you? |
| 21:19:07 | legodude | that link is borked for me |
| 21:23:44 | scanline | is away: Dave... my mind is going... |
| 21:24:08 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:05) |
| 21:28:58 | sorphin | legodude: well, i'm fighting w/ install sources atm |
| 21:29:05 | sorphin | but other than that, it's working fine |
| 21:35:19 | legodude | likes qcad very much now |
| 21:35:22 | legodude | too bad it don't do 3d |
| 21:35:30 | legodude | fuxor |
| 21:35:35 | legodude | units got mangled |
| 21:35:36 | legodude | oh well |
| 21:37:26 | legodude | leaves |
| 21:37:40 | sorphin | cya |
| 21:55:17 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 22:27:42 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
