| 00:59:10 | legodude | anybody here got irix? |
| 01:06:12 | sorphin | i would, if i could get a copy for my I2 :P |
| 01:22:31 | legodude | hehe |
| 01:22:39 | legodude | I might have a hookup soon |
| 01:27:29 | sorphin | well, i could mail someone if i had the time and they'd prolly toss me a copy of the latest real cheap, etc.. but i'd rather have a better I2.. |
| 01:27:32 | sorphin | or higher |
| 01:28:55 | sorphin | still waiting to get a sled so i can even bring up the U30.. |
| 02:13:09 | legodude | I love having friend at a film studio |
| 02:13:18 | legodude | 616kb/s is nice |
| 02:14:41 | legodude | sorphin: you can probably make do without a sled |
| 02:14:45 | legodude | I don't have one for my octane |
| 02:15:11 | legodude | it would be ugly, and not very good, but put some spacers under the drive |
| 02:18:03 | sorphin | legodude: i meant for my U30 |
| 02:18:13 | sorphin | not for the I2 |
| 02:18:15 | legodude | ja |
| 02:18:17 | legodude | for the U30 |
| 02:18:28 | legodude | stick spacers in there |
| 02:18:31 | sorphin | well, what you think of this? |
| 02:18:56 | sorphin | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2055195314&rd=1 |
| 02:19:36 | legodude | I can't tell if the sled is the good kind or not |
| 02:19:45 | legodude | if its the good kinda, that's a good deal |
| 02:20:19 | sorphin | what bout for the drive atleast? |
| 02:20:35 | legodude | if it's new, that's good no matter what methinks |
| 02:20:49 | legodude | that's a pretty good deal as long as the drive works |
| 02:20:54 | sorphin | a friend over in the UK has a spare SPUD.. and he's interested in one of my sunpcis (i bought all 4) |
| 02:21:27 | legodude | don't bother shipping spuds across the atlantic |
| 02:21:37 | legodude | they're like $8 on ebay |
| 02:21:49 | legodude | I really like the sun spud design |
| 02:21:54 | legodude | so much better than the sgi imho |
| 02:22:30 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:22:35 | sorphin | would one fit the other? |
| 02:22:42 | legodude | ? |
| 02:22:45 | legodude | you mean sgi and sun? |
| 02:22:47 | sorphin | yes |
| 02:22:51 | legodude | oh no |
| 02:22:54 | legodude | completely different |
| 02:23:08 | legodude | sgis aren't even compatible with each other for the most part |
| 02:23:14 | legodude | well, the octane and origin use the same |
| 02:24:57 | legodude | and sgi sleds are stupid expensive |
| 02:25:00 | legodude | like $45 |
| 02:25:05 | legodude | big huge complex things |
| 02:25:15 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:25:30 | sorphin | i need to sell this stupid I2 and get a better sgi.. |
| 02:25:39 | legodude | likes it when other vendors use the sun spud in their products |
| 02:25:43 | legodude | ja |
| 02:25:46 | legodude | octanes are ass-cheap now |
| 02:25:52 | sorphin | has a couple other things to sell too.. |
| 02:25:53 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:25:58 | legodude | I'll have 6.5 and 6.2 in a couple hours |
| 02:26:01 | sorphin | define "ass cheep" :P hasn't looked like it to me |
| 02:26:12 | legodude | I got mine for $219 |
| 02:26:14 | legodude | buy it now |
| 02:26:16 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:26:19 | legodude | plus $35 for shipping |
| 02:26:21 | sorphin | that's not ass cheap :P |
| 02:26:31 | legodude | that's SI, 175mhz R10k, 512mb |
| 02:26:32 | legodude | sure it is |
| 02:26:38 | sorphin | ass cheap would be what i paid for my I2 :P |
| 02:26:44 | legodude | you can get them for sub $200 now |
| 02:26:49 | legodude | pah |
| 02:26:51 | legodude | details |
| 02:27:04 | legodude | there is no difference between $30 and $200 |
| 02:27:23 | legodude | for large enough values of $30 and small enough values of $200 that is |
| 02:27:35 | legodude | does not know what is beeping at him |
| 02:28:24 | sorphin | there is too a diff :P |
| 02:28:37 | LIM | yay! toshiba 2GB pcmcia HD works in my tuxscreen... |
| 02:28:38 | sorphin | when i look at my wallet there is :P |
| 02:29:01 | sorphin | the I2 cost me $41 and shipping was $40 |
| 02:30:46 | legodude | I dunno what my roommate will do when I start keeping the octane on |
| 02:31:00 | legodude | probably kill himself |
| 02:31:03 | legodude | then I'd have more space |
| 02:31:14 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:31:23 | sorphin | i havent' even powered on the I2 in a while now |
| 02:31:27 | legodude | it's loud |
| 02:31:29 | legodude | louder than I2 |
| 02:31:29 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:31:34 | sorphin | it's loud in here already :P |
| 02:31:36 | LIM | btw, no 5v mod needed...if you want to know |
| 02:31:38 | legodude | I2 is fsckin loud |
| 02:31:40 | sorphin | i turned everything off the other night |
| 02:31:49 | sorphin | to remove the buzzer from the UPS |
| 02:31:50 | legodude | ya |
| 02:31:53 | sorphin | gawd it was quiet |
| 02:31:55 | legodude | power outages used to freak me out |
| 02:32:01 | sorphin | i had to turn the tv down from 25 to 14 |
| 02:32:06 | legodude | haha |
| 02:32:42 | legodude | I like to go in my datacenter and turn off the lights and just sit and watch the lights and listen to the hum |
| 02:32:42 | sorphin | one thing idon't get |
| 02:32:48 | legodude | of course my dad is not really a fan of it |
| 02:32:51 | legodude | wha? |
| 02:32:58 | sorphin | i upgraded the prom on the U5 |
| 02:33:12 | sorphin | suddenly that happymeal card has become hme2 instead of 1 |
| 02:33:16 | legodude | wow |
| 02:33:19 | legodude | that's strange |
| 02:33:25 | legodude | have you tried a reset defaults? |
| 02:33:28 | sorphin | so now i have 0 and 2 |
| 02:33:41 | legodude | I think there was something on comp.sys.sun.hardware about that |
| 02:33:45 | sorphin | i'm not sure what coulda caused that other than the prom switch, cuz that's all i did |
| 02:33:57 | legodude | is that inthe prom too? |
| 02:34:00 | legodude | or only solaris? |
| 02:34:04 | legodude | I'd try resetting defaults |
| 02:34:11 | legodude | then maybe reloading solaris |
| 02:34:15 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:34:17 | legodude | but it don't matter that much, does it? |
| 02:34:21 | sorphin | i dunno where to look in the prom |
| 02:34:21 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:34:23 | sorphin | it's annoying |
| 02:34:30 | sorphin | here i thought the card/slot was bad |
| 02:34:31 | legodude | I think it's nvram-reset-defaults |
| 02:34:35 | sorphin | when it stopped working on hme1 |
| 02:34:39 | legodude | or set-defaults |
| 02:35:07 | legodude | set-defaults |
| 02:36:01 | legodude | I gots to sleep now |
| 02:36:03 | legodude | nite yo |
| 02:36:39 | sorphin | k |
| 02:36:40 | sorphin | cya |
| 05:46:49 | LIM | BZFlag |
| 05:56:19 | BZFlag | LIM |
| 06:03:00 | LIM | oy |
| 06:03:08 | LIM | I got the 2GB harddrive |
| 06:03:13 | LIM | toshiba |
| 06:03:16 | LIM | PCMCIA |
| 06:03:25 | LIM | works great, no mods needed |
| 06:36:21 | BZFlag | sweet! |
| 06:37:04 | sorphin | wish i could say my pcmcia->ide adapter was happy in the tux :P |
| 06:37:15 | LIM | hmm |
| 06:37:29 | LIM | I have 2GB and 10/100 ether |
| 06:37:32 | LIM | I'm happy |
| 06:37:35 | sorphin | nod |
| 06:37:48 | LIM | now I'm doing a makeshift linux from scratch :/ |
| 06:37:59 | LIM | debian...irks me |
| 06:38:01 | sorphin | heh |
| 06:38:08 | sorphin | to each their own |
| 06:38:18 | sorphin | haven't touched my tuxes in a month |
| 06:38:18 | LIM | I'm still configuring bash. |
| 06:38:22 | LIM | so slow :) |
| 06:38:36 | sorphin | prolly won't for another few months... busy w/ faster machines :P |
| 06:38:43 | LIM | heh |
| 06:38:51 | sorphin | shrugs |
| 06:39:04 | sorphin | has 2 "new" ultras, and some sunpci cards on the way |
| 06:39:21 | LIM | I'm thinking of making it available on the net, for all us fancy tuxscreen users...who may hate debian ;) |
| 06:39:23 | sorphin | since i don't plan on putting my tuxes in my car or something like that, not much to so w/ em atm |
| 06:39:44 | LIM | I have mine next to my bed |
| 06:39:49 | sorphin | doesn't hate debian so much as i hate too many dependancies |
| 06:39:56 | LIM | mostly for late night ircing in total comfort |
| 06:40:04 | sorphin | has debian running on his series 2 tivo :P |
| 06:40:08 | LIM | lol |
| 06:40:16 | LIM | I have a hacked tivo 1 |
| 06:40:17 | sorphin | the tivo crap is in /tivoroot |
| 06:40:20 | sorphin | heh |
| 06:40:25 | sorphin | this is a hacked series 2 :P |
| 06:40:30 | LIM | so you said |
| 06:40:33 | sorphin | ;) |
| 06:40:41 | LIM | tivo 2 is better? |
| 06:40:45 | sorphin | mips proc |
| 06:40:53 | LIM | I wasn't interested in real-one crap |
| 06:40:55 | sorphin | different chips for encode/decode |
| 06:41:02 | LIM | better encode? |
| 06:41:06 | sorphin | sjhill knows about the chips ;) |
| 06:41:13 | sorphin | his work makes em :P |
| 06:41:20 | LIM | is it using mpeg2 still? |
| 06:41:24 | sorphin | um |
| 06:41:26 | sorphin | of course |
| 06:41:55 | sorphin | it's hardware encoding, what you expect? DiVX? :P |
| 06:41:59 | LIM | well, I didn't know if they went for Realvideo compression :P |
| 06:42:01 | sorphin | gags |
| 06:42:02 | sorphin | umm |
| 06:42:03 | sorphin | no |
| 06:42:03 | LIM | yeah |
| 06:42:06 | LIM | exactly |
| 06:42:07 | sorphin | the "real" crap |
| 06:42:12 | sorphin | is for video on demand |
| 06:42:16 | sorphin | over the net prolly |
| 06:42:22 | LIM | I was like, no way! that would sux0r |
| 06:42:26 | sorphin | or through their "broadcasts" |
| 06:42:33 | LIM | yeah |
| 06:42:36 | BZFlag | sorenson has a chip available now. |
| 06:42:49 | sorphin | the bcm chips are nice, but specs will be impossible to snag |
| 06:43:00 | sorphin | BZFlag: sorenson also blows ;) |
| 06:43:01 | LIM | still can't decode sorenson on linux :( |
| 06:43:22 | LIM | well maybe xine does it now |
| 06:43:33 | LIM | mplayer doesn't though :/ |
| 06:43:38 | sorphin | has been liking aviplay :) |
| 06:43:49 | sorphin | finally can play wmv when necessary |
| 06:43:51 | LIM | it plays dvds? |
| 06:43:57 | sorphin | points up a line |
| 06:44:12 | sorphin | plays anything you have the win32 codec for |
| 06:44:16 | LIM | mplayer plays wmv with the win dlls |
| 06:44:16 | sorphin | pretty much |
| 06:44:19 | LIM | yeah |
| 06:44:22 | LIM | same tech |
| 06:44:34 | sorphin | aviplay can stream and save |
| 06:44:41 | sorphin | dunno if mplayer can now |
| 06:44:50 | LIM | I dunno |
| 06:44:59 | sorphin | anyhoo |
| 06:45:10 | LIM | wmv and real are sucky encodings anyways |
| 06:45:16 | sorphin | well |
| 06:45:23 | sorphin | unless you get upthere in bandwidth |
| 06:45:29 | LIM | of course :) |
| 06:45:33 | sorphin | has some movies at 600 |
| 06:45:35 | sorphin | that look decent |
| 06:45:56 | LIM | fullscreen though at 1280x1024 |
| 06:46:24 | sorphin | umm |
| 06:46:28 | LIM | checks the configure...it's still going...omg. |
| 06:46:52 | sorphin | fulscreen at 1280x1024 on anything is stupid :P |
| 06:46:58 | LIM | ha |
| 06:47:02 | LIM | so say you |
| 06:47:07 | sorphin | yup, so say me |
| 06:47:23 | LIM | dvds look grand :) |
| 06:47:26 | sorphin | umm |
| 06:47:33 | sorphin | i'd rather watch a dvd on my TV :P |
| 06:47:39 | sorphin | not on a damn puter monitor |
| 06:47:41 | LIM | I do that too |
| 06:47:53 | LIM | but sometimes I want the res :| |
| 06:47:54 | sorphin | that'd be why my TV is bigger than my monitor :P |
| 06:47:55 | Russ | I like to have them in a little corner while I code sometimes |
| 06:48:05 | LIM | I don't have HD tv or widescreen |
| 06:48:15 | sorphin | Russ: doesn't look like giFT has picked up much.. seems like less users lately |
| 06:48:21 | sorphin | LIM: nor do i *shrug* |
| 06:48:31 | Russ | sorphin: I think there was a bug in client reporting |
| 06:48:49 | sorphin | well, i know to grab the song i'm listening to now |
| 06:48:57 | Russ | I really need to finish my client, then, everyone will see how cool gift is, and world peace will ensue |
| 06:48:58 | sorphin | i had to switch back over to *shiver* gnut |
| 06:49:11 | sorphin | where you always get 15 junk hits |
| 06:49:11 | LIM | client for what? |
| 06:49:15 | sorphin | no matter what you're searching for :P |
| 06:49:16 | Russ | gift |
| 06:49:34 | sorphin | Russ: one annoying gift flaw :P |
| 06:49:35 | LIM | does that do split downloads from multiple peers? |
| 06:49:40 | sorphin | even when i have sharing DISABLED |
| 06:49:52 | sorphin | it still tries to share and i see queries for whatever i just saved in the log :P |
| 11:26:03 | scanline | is away: ZzzzZzzZzzzz.... |
| 13:09:02 | prpplague | morning guys |
| 13:09:06 | prpplague | Morn: and gals |
| 13:17:17 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 13:22:58 | Morn | how is everyone today? |
| 13:26:41 | sorphin | prpplague: listen here you ibm POS lover ;) |
| 13:30:43 | prpplague | sorphin: hey now, there is no need to insult me |
| 13:33:52 | sorphin | prpplague: if i wanted to insult you, i'd have called you file ;) |
| 13:38:40 | CosmicPenguin | so much anger |
| 14:40:20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hows life at censoft? |
| 14:47:46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: just terminal emulating along. Hows life in Texas? |
| 14:47:52 | CosmicPenguin | I saw the linuxdevices article yesterday.. Kudos |
| 14:48:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh? what article? |
| 14:50:48 | prpplague | brb |
| 14:51:39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what article on linuxdevices? |
| 14:52:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm... I dunno. Tim RIker was passing it around |
| 15:04:24 | prpplague | ohh about the tcsx-1 thats over a year |
| 15:05:23 | sorphin | prpplague: btw.. watch out.. file's been looking for you lately :P |
| 15:06:04 | sorphin | unless he already managed to whine about whatever it is he begged you to send him this time |
| 15:06:09 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 15:06:17 | sorphin | taht hasn't shown up |
| 15:07:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya thats about a year old if i'm not mistaken |
| 15:07:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that was my first complete board |
| 15:07:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i used a reference design from alta for their stpc processor |
| 15:45:46 | | vercel is probably http://www.vercel.com/ or a SA1110/1111 pda with included keyboard targetting $350 USD retail. or the coolest thing since sliced bread |
| 15:45:46 | prpplague | ibot: vercel |
| 15:47:06 | legodude | that is the worst website ever |
| 15:47:09 | legodude | it hurts me |
| 15:47:15 | Russ | hey andersee |
| 15:48:59 | sorphin | legodude: allo |
| 15:49:23 | legodude | heya sorphin |
| 15:49:26 | sorphin | ugh |
| 15:49:30 | legodude | got me irix 6.5 and 6.2 now |
| 15:49:33 | sorphin | a flash intro w/ no Skip link |
| 15:49:38 | sorphin | coo |
| 15:49:40 | legodude | ja |
| 15:49:46 | legodude | and the site has no info |
| 15:49:47 | legodude | at all |
| 15:49:51 | sorphin | got a speedy outgoing link? ;) |
| 15:49:59 | legodude | yup |
| 15:50:08 | sorphin | oi, now it's rapidly flashing stupid images at me |
| 15:50:15 | legodude | I'm sittin on fat uni connection |
| 15:50:18 | legodude | ja |
| 15:50:22 | legodude | you can hit products |
| 15:50:36 | sorphin | legodude: any chance i can snag 6.5? |
| 15:50:45 | legodude | ja |
| 15:50:56 | sorphin | btw, that the latest 6.5 ? |
| 15:51:14 | legodude | nope |
| 15:51:16 | legodude | .11 I think |
| 15:51:24 | legodude | but I believe you can download the latest overlays for free |
| 15:52:39 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:53:04 | sorphin | btw.. at some point i intend to buy that memory from you :) |
| 15:53:15 | legodude | k :) |
| 15:53:39 | sorphin | oh, a set defaults didn't change a thing.. |
| 15:53:45 | legodude | strange |
| 15:53:54 | legodude | does it show up as hme2 in prom? |
| 15:53:55 | sorphin | os i'm not sure why the hell it's hme2 other than it's on crack |
| 15:54:03 | sorphin | i dunno how to show em in the prom |
| 15:54:23 | legodude | show-devs or something |
| 15:54:30 | sorphin | checking |
| 15:54:54 | andersee | Russ: hey |
| 15:55:04 | sorphin | andersee: it lives |
| 15:55:49 | legodude | I gotta go now |
| 15:56:02 | sorphin | legodude: hrmm.. |
| 15:56:07 | sorphin | /pci@1f,0/pci@1/SUNW,hme@2,1 |
| 15:56:14 | sorphin | that doesn't look promising |
| 15:56:39 | legodude | should be 0,1 methinks |
| 15:56:41 | legodude | I forget though |
| 15:56:50 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:58:47 | sorphin | legodude: umm |
| 15:59:12 | sorphin | it almost looks like i'm sitting on the cd.... |
| 16:00:02 | sorphin | hmmm |
| 16:04:10 | Russ | andersee: did you get my email? |
| 16:07:41 | andersee | the one about udhcp and busybox? |
| 16:08:45 | andersee | Russ: yup. Just been too busy to do anything about it yet... |
| 16:08:47 | andersee | :-( |
| 16:15:19 | sorphin | asnd: heard you've been conventioned |
| 16:15:39 | sorphin | erm.. that was for you andersee |
| 16:15:45 | sorphin | gawd i'm so not awake |
| 16:19:41 | Russ | ya, that one |
| 16:26:19 | prpplague | Russ: you do anything on SDRAM layouts? |
| 16:26:27 | andersee | sorphin: conventioned? |
| 16:27:17 | sorphin | andersee: i heard you'd been abducted by some convention aliens and forced to quote busybox code line by line verbally |
| 16:27:38 | andersee | hehe |
| 16:27:58 | sorphin | andersee: tho, at this point, you prolly could |
| 16:32:48 | prpplague | anyone here have any SDRAM experience with the SA series? |
| 16:33:47 | sorphin | yay, my U5 is back to the way it should be :P (hme2 is back to hme1 where it should be) |
| 16:37:47 | prpplague | sorphin: you've done some board layout for the sa series before? |
| 16:38:32 | sorphin | no, i haven't sorry.. |
| 16:38:51 | sorphin | the tux is actually my 1st exposure to SA |
| 16:40:03 | prpplague | thats the only thing i hate about arm, getting experience on it is like pulling teeth |
| 16:40:12 | sorphin | yeah |
| 16:41:00 | prpplague | sorphin: unless you have an alien enhanced brain like andersee |
| 16:41:15 | sorphin | s/enhanced/corrupted/ |
| 16:41:45 | sorphin | i could do some decent board layout now, since i have a working copy of protel dxp |
| 16:41:58 | sorphin | but it's been so long since i did any kinda layout.. i'm way rusty |
| 16:42:21 | prpplague | sorphin: actually i more concerned with the actual schematics right now |
| 16:46:07 | andersee | prpplague: I prefer 'augmented' over corrupted. More pc. :) |
| 16:51:30 | prpplague | andersee: i'm just wondering what orifice the aliens had to probe to do the "augementation" |
| 16:53:08 | sorphin | prpplague: the usual |
| 16:53:13 | sorphin | anal probing |
| 16:53:31 | sorphin | prpplague: as for schematics, you can draw them up in protel too |
| 16:54:46 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, well i'm winblows free, so i've got to use something on the linux side of things |
| 16:54:51 | sorphin | hehe |
| 16:54:53 | sorphin | Eagle |
| 16:54:55 | Russ|werk | prpplague: you mean the routing of SDRAM traces? |
| 16:55:10 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya that and the basic schematics |
| 16:55:10 | Russ|werk | prpplague: I use gschem+pcb1.99c |
| 16:55:43 | Russ|werk | the basic schematics are probably easy, I don't know about the routing rules, probably something about the lengths being within a certain distance of eachother |
| 16:56:39 | Russ|werk | notices micron has DDR SRAM |
| 16:59:43 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya i got those, just haven't had time to compile them |
| 17:02:14 | Russ|werk | prpplague: gschem is in debian |
| 17:02:35 | Russ|werk | I can send you pcb1.99c if you need it |
| 17:03:37 | prpplague | if i can't get it compiled i'll give ya msg |
| 17:04:01 | Russ|werk | I mean the source |
| 17:04:07 | prpplague | ohh |
| 17:04:13 | prpplague | Russ|werk: sure send it |
| 17:04:18 | | somebody said prpplague was mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
| 17:04:18 | prpplague | ibot: prpplague |
| 17:04:19 | Russ|werk | someone really needs to get a routing project going... |
| 17:11:15 | Russ|werk | (disreguard the 'I think I have more patches thing') |
| 17:11:56 | legodude | Russ|werk: where you get pcb1.99 |
| 17:11:57 | legodude | ? |
| 17:12:07 | legodude | I only see 1.6.3 on site |
| 17:12:09 | Russ|werk | harry eaton |
| 17:12:12 | sorphin | hehe |
| 17:12:16 | sorphin | inside source ;) |
| 17:12:21 | legodude | who dat? |
| 17:12:22 | Russ|werk | he did a spurt of development, and then stopped |
| 17:12:29 | sorphin | russ has da hookup |
| 17:12:30 | Russ|werk | who dat? heh |
| 17:12:33 | legodude | oh |
| 17:12:37 | legodude | he the developer? |
| 17:12:56 | Russ|werk | they don't call it "harry eaton's pcb" for nuttin |
| 17:13:05 | sorphin | hehe |
| 17:13:11 | legodude | I've only ever seen it called pcb |
| 17:13:18 | Russ|werk | prpplague: also, I have some tools for footprint generaltion |
| 17:13:21 | Russ|werk | er, generation |
| 17:13:28 | legodude | is there a way to convert pcb files to expresspcb files? |
| 17:14:11 | Russ|werk | there is always a way |
| 17:14:16 | Russ|werk | the question is, has anyone bothered |
| 17:14:27 | Russ|werk | or are you working from scratch |
| 17:15:03 | legodude | ? |
| 17:15:17 | Russ|werk | on a conversion utility |
| 17:15:24 | legodude | nono |
| 17:15:35 | legodude | I use pcbexpress for my boards usually |
| 17:15:39 | legodude | and I'd like to use PCB |
| 17:15:52 | legodude | but without a way to convert it to pcbexpress format, I'm stuck |
| 17:16:18 | Russ|werk | convert what? |
| 17:16:36 | legodude | from PCB to PCBExpress formats |
| 17:16:43 | Russ|werk | the entire layout? |
| 17:16:48 | legodude | ja |
| 17:16:56 | prpplague | Russ|werk: cool, let me get this running, and then if its ok, i can msg you for the footprint stuff later? |
| 17:17:04 | Russ|werk | why? you want to do half in pcb, and half in expresspcb? |
| 17:17:06 | Russ|werk | prpplague: sure |
| 17:17:39 | legodude | Russ|werk: no, I don't think expresspcb will except files not made with expresspcb |
| 17:17:40 | Russ|werk | prpplague: get some people together to code a gtk2+gtkglarea router with cool features |
| 17:17:48 | legodude | unless I misunderstand some things |
| 17:17:57 | Russ|werk | prpplague: like being able to spec spacing between traces, and then push some groups of them around |
| 17:18:14 | Russ|werk | legodude: why do you want to open them in expresspcb? |
| 17:18:16 | legodude | Russ|werk: you have to use their program to send the boards to production |
| 17:18:32 | Russ|werk | legodude: they don't accept gerber? |
| 17:18:39 | legodude | AFAIK, no |
| 17:18:41 | sorphin | nope |
| 17:18:48 | sorphin | they dpon't |
| 17:18:49 | legodude | that's the whole problem |
| 17:18:49 | sorphin | just their progs output |
| 17:18:50 | Russ|werk | wtf kinda board house is that |
| 17:19:09 | legodude | you see |
| 17:19:15 | legodude | they're cheap |
| 17:19:16 | legodude | and good |
| 17:19:19 | legodude | except for that |
| 17:19:25 | legodude | their software ain't that bad |
| 17:19:25 | Russ|werk | prpplague: in case I forget in the future, when you make componets, always make 0,0 the center, its easier to generate a file for the autoplacement machine thingy that way |
| 17:19:33 | legodude | I just don't like the proprietaryness |
| 17:20:18 | prpplague | Russ|werk: noted |
| 17:20:19 | legodude | and I've looked but not found a converter for expresspcb files |
| 17:20:21 | Russ|werk | legodude: I can't beleive that the wouldn't support gerber/excellion(SP), its probably what all their machines use |
| 17:20:44 | legodude | Russ|werk: I think I even emailed them about it |
| 17:20:55 | legodude | I'll have to check my messages |
| 17:23:36 | sorphin | btw |
| 17:23:43 | sorphin | legodude: from my friend at sun: |
| 17:24:03 | sorphin | about just touch /reconfigure and boot -r |
| 17:24:05 | sorphin | That has |
| 17:24:05 | sorphin | the same effect as boot -r, doesn't totally reconfig the device tree (and |
| 17:24:05 | sorphin | that's a very popular misconception)' |
| 17:24:26 | legodude | ahso |
| 17:24:33 | legodude | you have to edit that file? |
| 17:25:14 | sorphin | you edit the file i mentioned |
| 17:25:47 | sorphin | path_to_inst |
| 17:25:49 | sorphin | in /etc |
| 17:25:52 | legodude | ja |
| 17:30:16 | legodude | goes to nap for a while |
| 17:32:33 | sorphin | eek.. tis that bzflag addict/creator ;) |
| 17:35:53 | BZFlag | grins |
| 17:36:09 | sorphin | sup tim |
| 18:15:04 | bhima | yawns and wavels. |
| 18:15:22 | sorphin | wishes he could slep :P |
| 18:15:29 | bhima | anybody here have experience with getting linux to use different scheduling algorithms? |
| 18:15:51 | bhima | just wondering what the overhead of switching between them is, and if it gets unhappy if you switch a lot... |
| 18:17:48 | bhima | why can't you sleep? |
| 18:22:45 | file | hey mallum |
| 18:24:23 | mallum | hello file :) |
| 18:24:24 | file | wazzup? |
| 18:31:00 | | ACTION file: no |
| 18:31:00 | sorphin | ibot: tell file |
| 18:31:35 | file | sorphin: well now, aren't you nice |
| 18:31:45 | sorphin | nope, and never claimed to be. |
| 18:37:10 | legodude | god damn |
| 18:37:18 | legodude | people are already trying to connect to my ftp server |
| 18:43:40 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: honypot or legitmate? |
| 18:44:25 | Russ|werk | oh, sorry, that was me, I've been h4x0ring you for days now |
| 18:45:16 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: legit |
| 18:45:22 | legodude | I put it up for sorphin to get irix a couple hours ago |
| 18:45:27 | legodude | and people are already trying random logins |
| 18:45:45 | legodude | wonders why stupid umich can't even get usenet right |
| 18:46:09 | Russ|werk | they have a good debian mirror |
| 18:46:30 | Russ|werk | I would always hit that thing from asu over the abilene link |
| 18:46:36 | legodude | for usenet I'd get maybe %1 of messages |
| 18:46:39 | legodude | that's nice |
| 18:46:42 | legodude | nice linkups |
| 18:47:29 | legodude | really likes outlook calendaring |
| 18:47:52 | sorphin | legodude: i'll be ftping for about a day ;) |
| 18:47:59 | sorphin | has 2 sessions going atm |
| 18:48:07 | sorphin | both at about 50~K/sec |
| 18:48:15 | Russ|werk | really likes evolution calendering |
| 18:48:34 | legodude | I should try that out |
| 18:48:51 | legodude | but after outlook I bet it won't be as nice |
| 18:48:51 | legodude | I should have started with that first |
| 18:49:03 | Russ|werk | I think its the other way around |
| 18:49:25 | Russ|werk | and the current evolution beta is coming along nicely |
| 18:50:58 | legodude_ | I love my connection |
| 18:51:01 | legodude_ | things dying at random |
| 18:52:55 | Russ|werk | and then his irc server dies... |
| 18:53:41 | Russ|werk | legodude_: which connection? your border connection? |
| 18:56:04 | sorphin | legodude_: btw, you're right.. you can download the latest irix maint release |
| 18:56:09 | sorphin | tho they're date restricted.. |
| 18:56:18 | sorphin | IRIX 6.5.17 download is only available through February 20, 2003 |
| 18:56:18 | sorphin | IRIX 6.5.16 download is only available through November 20, 2002 |
| 18:56:19 | sorphin | IRIX 6.5.15 download is only available through August 20, 2002 |
| 18:57:10 | sorphin | they offer maint and feature release.. |
| 18:57:24 | legodude_ | sorphin: do you need to build them on top of each other |
| 18:57:24 | legodude_ | ? |
| 18:57:30 | legodude_ | or will .17 install on .11? |
| 18:57:45 | legodude | oh dear |
| 18:57:47 | legodude | time for class |
| 19:05:11 | sorphin | legodude: well, they say they recommend to download the latest |
| 19:05:27 | Russ|werk | legodude: if its just the border connection, find an opn server that you get to through abeline- |
| 19:05:44 | Russ|werk | legodude: a lot of connections to europe can go through abeline |
| 19:14:20 | scanline | is back (gone 07:48:17) |
| 20:19:53 | bhima | oooh. embeded USB host controller. |
| 20:20:19 | bhima | contemplates a USB device to USB device bridge... |
| 20:23:00 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:27:41 | bhima | freaky. you can interface it without a standard data bus. 8 bit output port and an 8 bit bidirectional port are enough. |
| 20:27:57 | bhima | supports an auto-increment mode so you can write large blocks. |
| 20:49:10 | bhima | "...and would only ensure that anti-hacking |
| 20:49:12 | bhima | statutes don't hamstring owners." |
| 20:49:27 | bhima | yeah. I'll bet anti-arson and anti-murder statutes also hamstring copyright owners. |
| 21:12:14 | prpplague | andersee: hey you recon those uclinux fast-start classes are worth the money? |
| 21:13:15 | andersee | prpplague: dunno, never been to one. How much? |
| 21:22:46 | prpplague | andersee: two day crash course in uclinux with dev kit for $1250 |
| 21:25:06 | prpplague | howdy as_ |
| 21:25:21 | prpplague | as_: whats cooking today? |
| 21:25:45 | bhima | hrm. tftp keeps timing out on a ~480k transfer. |
| 21:25:48 | as_ | prp :] |
| 21:25:48 | as_ | How goes? |
| 21:25:48 | as_ | Earthquakes. |
| 21:26:50 | prpplague | bhima: some tftp servers have the capability of limiting max file transfers |
| 21:27:12 | prpplague | as_: earthquakes |
| 21:27:18 | bhima | it's mine, and I haven't explicitly turned that on... |
| 21:27:48 | Russ|werk | I need to figure out how to make udhcp work right with uclinux, there is a fork or two in there |
| 21:27:50 | prpplague | bhima: hmm, you may need to turn down the cps rate |
| 21:28:21 | bhima | how do I do that? 's over IP/ethernet... |
| 21:28:31 | prpplague | Russ|werk: hmm, doesn't snapgear use a udhcp on their vpn units? |
| 21:28:37 | as_ | prp, UK is supposed to be geologically dead. Unformatunatly noone told the plates that. |
| 21:29:02 | prpplague | as_: interesting |
| 21:29:24 | as_ | 4.8 on the richter scale. |
| 21:29:32 | prpplague | as_: wow where at? |
| 21:29:37 | Russ|werk | prpplague: then they are eithier using the 0.8.x series (no client) or they have a small patch to fx the fork thing |
| 21:30:06 | bhima | oh, there we go, now it works. |
| 21:30:34 | Russ|werk | heh, I'm putting a scsi card in a system that is nearly 10 years old |
| 21:30:48 | as_ | Epicenter was 10miles below dudly west midlands. |
| 21:32:55 | as_ | Hmm, I fucked up that sentance. |
| 21:33:09 | as_ | Epicenter was dudly, west midlands. Actual center was 10miles deep. |
| 21:40:31 | as_ | I'm about an hours drive from there and it was quite fun enough for me. |
| 21:46:13 | sorphin | as_: awww.. poor brit felt the earth move ;) |
| 21:47:20 | as_ | We arnt supposed to get earthquakes. |
| 21:47:45 | sorphin | you're also not supposed to still have a monarchy, but you do |
| 21:48:38 | as_ | Why arnt we supposed to have a monarchy? What else would you tourists gaup at ;P |
| 21:49:04 | sorphin | as_: i never gaup'd at the monarchy when i was over there |
| 21:49:39 | sorphin | the palace is nice, but i couldn't give a fsck less who lives there :P and the rest of the stuff in london isn't all tied to it :P |
| 21:50:06 | prpplague | was born in texas but his soul is british |
| 21:50:24 | sorphin | prpplague: then why don't you drink a lot of tea? |
| 21:50:30 | prpplague | sorphin: i do |
| 21:50:38 | sorphin | tea w/ your guiness? |
| 21:50:43 | prpplague | sorphin: tea for breakfast and lunch, beer for everything else |
| 21:50:49 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:50:57 | sorphin | that DOES explain the odd craving for guiness then |
| 21:51:01 | prpplague | sorphin: nothing like a cup of earl grey |
| 21:51:11 | sorphin | quite |
| 21:51:35 | file | anybody try Phoenix yet? |
| 21:51:41 | sorphin | nope |
| 21:51:47 | sorphin | some of us have been at work |
| 21:52:15 | prpplague | goes home for beer and books |
| 21:52:22 | sorphin | if it works worth a damn, it'll be nice |
| 21:52:32 | sorphin | prpplague: guiness and books about guiness |
| 21:52:41 | prpplague | later guys, and you too file! |
| 21:52:47 | sorphin | haha |
| 21:52:47 | as_ | L8r prp. |
| 21:52:50 | file | :) |
| 21:52:55 | prpplague | file: jk |
| 21:52:55 | prpplague | later |
| 21:53:27 | sorphin | as_: if there was gonna be a quake there |
| 21:53:40 | sorphin | it shoulda been in wales, maybe break it off the island |
| 21:54:15 | as_ | Oddly enough, that was where it was. Part next to wales. |
| 21:54:34 | sorphin | damn, and it didn't make wales slide off into the ocean/sea? damn.. |
| 21:54:51 | sorphin | guess we need more than one quake generator next tiem ;p |
| 21:54:53 | as_ | Its still there, and still very much attached. |
| 21:55:09 | sorphin | ah well, maybe next time |
| 21:55:20 | as_ | Aparently the energy released was equivalent to a small atomic bomb. |
| 21:55:43 | sorphin | maybe it was one.. someone was testing |
| 21:56:13 | as_ | Varios people suggested it was bush nuking sadam. |
| 21:56:17 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:56:25 | sorphin | someone needs to nuke bush :P |
| 21:56:37 | as_ | I think your right there. |
| 21:56:37 | sorphin | now HE is a fucking tosser |
| 21:56:46 | sorphin | he didn't even win by popular vote |
| 21:58:13 | sorphin | and anyone |
| 21:58:17 | sorphin | that flies in a plane |
| 21:58:19 | sorphin | w/ HORNS |
| 21:58:35 | sorphin | needs to be thrown into a pit of.. something and tortured |
| 21:59:05 | as_ | Scorpions. |
| 21:59:19 | sorphin | king scorpions |
| 21:59:29 | sorphin | full of poison |
| 21:59:30 | as_ | But what would be scrawled on the walls. Theres a question. |
| 21:59:30 | as_ | Have you read any Prattchet? |
| 21:59:51 | sorphin | i would say we'd be better off w/ blair than bush |
| 21:59:53 | sorphin | but then... |
| 21:59:58 | sorphin | blair is siding w/ bush |
| 22:00:27 | bhima | blair is a pratt. |
| 22:00:34 | sorphin | bush is just trying to be like daddy and trying to start another unnecessary war |
| 22:00:47 | sorphin | hence the sudden reinterest in iraq |
| 22:00:59 | as_ | In the books the patrician arrests all mime artists and suspends them in a scorpion pit with on the side written 'Learn the words'. |
| 22:01:12 | bhima | I'm not sure who I'd prefer, but definitely not blair. |
| 22:01:16 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:01:25 | sorphin | bhima: can't be worse than bush :P |
| 22:01:47 | as_ | Blair has no mind of his own, he just follows whatever US president is in. |
| 22:02:05 | sorphin | ok, maybe he can be worse then |
| 22:02:17 | sorphin | nuke em both then |
| 22:02:17 | bhima | sorphin: labour was talking about their highest income tax bracket - 60% - being for people earning >US$60k. they still haven't done that, but it was one of their plans. |
| 22:02:35 | sorphin | well, that wouldn't include me |
| 22:02:54 | sorphin | would be lucky to be making $60k+ (and i'd be making atleast what i should be :P ) |
| 22:03:05 | sorphin | is getting fscked, as usual |
| 22:04:22 | sorphin | ponders is this is still a good price... |
| 22:04:48 | scanline | is away: food or something like it! |
| 22:04:49 | sorphin | $32 for a 9.1G 10,000 RPM SCA drive |
| 22:45:46 | scanline | is back (gone 00:40:58) |