| 01:58:24 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 01:58:40 | scanline | is away: late night pizza run |
| 01:58:58 | scanline | is away: late night pizza run |
| 02:07:42 | LIM | 2 pizzas...hmm |
| 02:10:04 | sorphin | no |
| 02:10:11 | sorphin | that's just him screwing up his away msg |
| 02:12:01 | MonMotha | heh |
| 02:15:57 | LIM | I was thinking he was extra hungry. |
| 02:18:24 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:14:22 | scanline | sorphin: heh.. sorry about that, I was in a hurry and hit the up arrow |
| 03:14:27 | scanline | is back (gone 01:16:02) |
| 03:15:36 | scanline | though actually we did have two pizzas.... |
| 03:15:39 | scanline | but for three people |
| 03:21:07 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:28:01 | LIM | :D |
| 09:04:16 | file[Bed] | hey-o |
| 09:09:24 | LIM | oh hey |
| 09:15:56 | file[Bed] | yawns |
| 09:15:59 | file[Bed] | too early.. |
| 10:15:41 | bg | hi all |
| 10:22:49 | bg | am I the only person too dump to compile the buildroot??? |
| 10:23:54 | bg | it just stops with xgcc: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 11:53:56 | scanline | is away: Surprise Bagel! with hash browns... |
| 12:16:53 | scanline | is back (gone 00:22:56) |
| 12:48:43 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 14:28:06) |
| 12:48:59 | CosmicPenguin | good morning |
| 12:57:44 | Morn | hi there |
| 13:00:47 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: how is life on the east coast? |
| 13:01:41 | scanline | hi CosmicPenguin |
| 13:03:15 | Morn | good, I got my drivers license yesterday |
| 13:03:20 | Morn | I was SOOO nervous before the test |
| 13:06:25 | scanline | Morn: I still don't have mine... took the test once and ran a stop sign, haven't had a good opportunity to retake it since then |
| 13:06:43 | prpplague | morning all |
| 13:08:05 | scanline | hi prpplague |
| 13:10:45 | Morn | hi prpplague |
| 13:10:51 | prpplague | Morn: morn |
| 13:10:58 | prpplague | Morn: long time no chat |
| 13:11:06 | prpplague | Morn: whatcha been upto? |
| 13:11:17 | Morn | I was just telling people I got my drivers license yesterday |
| 13:11:21 | prpplague | Morn: been at the phone throwing olympics? |
| 13:11:26 | Morn | after not having one since 1989 |
| 13:11:26 | sorphin | Morn: congrats julie :) |
| 13:11:37 | prpplague | Morn: congrads |
| 13:12:16 | sorphin | least file can't drive (i don't think) :P |
| 13:12:42 | Morn | After this weekend I should have a car |
| 13:12:52 | sorphin | cool |
| 13:13:07 | Morn | I bought one, but my roommate has it til hers is fixed |
| 13:13:13 | sorphin | heh |
| 13:13:24 | sorphin | what is it? |
| 13:13:44 | Morn | just a '94 Toyota Tercel ($1500) |
| 13:14:02 | prpplague | Morn: nice |
| 13:14:06 | sorphin | nodsnods.. hey, whatever gets you from A -> B,C,D and E |
| 13:14:16 | prpplague | Morn: i hate spending more thatn 3k on a car |
| 13:14:45 | Morn | I need to learn to use the clutch though |
| 13:14:55 | sorphin | prpplague: so do i, but after my cutlass... which i paid $600 cash for, and over it's life, needed much more... |
| 13:22:29 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, but at least when you spend money on repairs your not paying interest such as on a car loan |
| 13:27:22 | prpplague | sorphin: less interest payments, more money to spend on things like tuxscreens and beer |
| 13:36:35 | sorphin | heh |
| 13:36:36 | sorphin | well |
| 13:36:40 | sorphin | i'm paying a car loan atm |
| 13:36:45 | sorphin | 9.75% |
| 13:37:08 | kergoth | car loans suck. |
| 13:40:30 | sorphin | nod |
| 13:45:00 | CosmicPenguin | stays quiet since my family owns a bank |
| 13:45:31 | sorphin | figures |
| 13:50:04 | CosmicPenguin | damn straight |
| 13:50:26 | CosmicPenguin | all your interest are belong to us |
| 13:50:27 | sorphin | explains why you can afford to work at a place like censoft ;) |
| 13:50:54 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah, I certainly don't work here for the big cash payouts... |
| 13:51:12 | sorphin | ;) |
| 13:52:15 | sorphin | tho, atleast you don't work on ibm pos all day like prp ;) |
| 13:52:41 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, my class is half full |
| 13:53:20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, i could be worse.. you could work for file ;) |
| 13:53:25 | sorphin | s/i/it/ |
| 13:53:36 | sorphin | stupid ibm keyboard |
| 13:55:49 | signal11 | IBM Model M keyboards #1 |
| 13:56:33 | sorphin | model: KB-7953 |
| 13:59:16 | signal11 | mine is a 52G9658, manufactured on 02-OCT-93 |
| 13:59:26 | signal11 | i could use a couple of spares in case this one goes out |
| 14:25:24 | wej | anyone alive? |
| 14:25:30 | wej | sdlfkjsdf |
| 14:25:33 | sorphin | nope |
| 14:25:38 | wej | cool. |
| 14:25:41 | wej | got a quick stupid questionj |
| 14:25:44 | wej | then i'll go away. |
| 14:25:56 | wej | anyone game? |
| 14:26:02 | CosmicPenguin | sure |
| 14:26:05 | sorphin | is it tuxscreen related? :P |
| 14:26:07 | wej | CosmicPenguin! |
| 14:26:08 | wej | yeah :) |
| 14:26:11 | wej | you remember me? |
| 14:26:12 | wej | it's wedge |
| 14:26:13 | CosmicPenguin | puts on his crash helmet |
| 14:26:17 | wej | aka pingboy... aka wej |
| 14:26:22 | wej | aka wedge |
| 14:26:23 | wej | heh. |
| 14:26:24 | wej | er |
| 14:26:26 | wej | anyway... |
| 14:26:47 | CosmicPenguin | Uhhh..... no... but don't fret - I wouldn't remember my own phone number if it wasn't programmed into my phone |
| 14:26:48 | wej | i'll take that as a 'you drank those braincells away' |
| 14:26:52 | wej | hehehe. |
| 14:27:00 | wej | you helped me a lot with the 802.11 thing i was working on |
| 14:27:05 | wej | months ago |
| 14:27:07 | wej | anyway... |
| 14:27:11 | wej | stupid question here.... |
| 14:27:17 | sorphin | so ask already :P |
| 14:27:25 | wej | how do i update blob to the latest version? |
| 14:27:34 | wej | i want to get the 0.6 stuff so it'll read the kernel out of the flash image |
| 14:27:39 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:27:44 | sorphin | it says right on the page |
| 14:27:48 | wej | where? |
| 14:28:05 | CosmicPenguin | You have to be very careful, otherwise you'll kill your tuxscreen |
| 14:28:10 | sorphin | load blob .4 |
| 14:28:10 | wej | word. |
| 14:28:19 | wej | load blob .4? |
| 14:28:21 | sorphin | then |
| 14:28:30 | wej | from where? |
| 14:28:34 | sorphin | boot into that, load .6 |
| 14:28:37 | sorphin | reblob |
| 14:28:44 | sorphin | load .6 again proper and save |
| 14:28:52 | CosmicPenguin | The important thing is the reblob |
| 14:28:59 | wej | i'm assuming i do this at the blob prompt... |
| 14:29:04 | sorphin | yes |
| 14:29:12 | wej | i can't seem to get back to the blob prompt... |
| 14:29:16 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:29:18 | wej | i reboot.. hit escape... nothing. |
| 14:29:21 | sorphin | hit enter once fast enough :P |
| 14:29:24 | wej | boots straight into linux. |
| 14:29:33 | sorphin | you're not fast enough |
| 14:29:36 | sorphin | :P |
| 14:30:54 | wej | nothin man |
| 14:30:59 | wej | every time.. black screen.. until isee linux. |
| 14:31:05 | wej | i'm hitting the reset button in the back |
| 14:31:09 | wej | should i hard power cycle by pulling the cable? |
| 14:31:22 | sorphin | worth a shot i guess |
| 14:31:58 | CosmicPenguin | the blob has a build in timeout... you can't be that slow |
| 14:32:15 | CosmicPenguin | Wait a second - are you using your serial connection, or are you watching the screen? |
| 14:32:25 | CosmicPenguin | Cause, the bootloader only shows on the serial port |
| 14:32:34 | wej | ah. |
| 14:32:39 | wej | use keyboard, but look serial console |
| 14:32:45 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh, the timeout is 1 second.. |
| 14:32:46 | CosmicPenguin | wrong keyboard |
| 14:32:52 | sorphin | wej: umm yeah, wrong keyboard |
| 14:32:55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: it was 5 seconds on .4 though |
| 14:33:16 | sorphin | hmm.. i wasn't on .4 long enough to notice.. |
| 14:33:24 | wej | so send it an escape over the serial port |
| 14:33:39 | sorphin | hit any key, once :P |
| 14:33:40 | wej | must be 115200 baud |
| 14:33:42 | wej | i'm not seeing shit. |
| 14:33:47 | CosmicPenguin | well, yeah.... |
| 14:33:49 | sorphin | yes, it is 115200 |
| 14:33:52 | wej | heheheehhee. |
| 14:33:53 | wej | sorry guys. |
| 14:33:54 | wej | <- lame |
| 14:34:14 | sorphin | you don't happen to hang out in #unix on unixnet do you? :P |
| 14:34:15 | sorphin | grins |
| 14:34:32 | wej | if i could reach you, i would hurt you. |
| 14:34:35 | sorphin | i thought so |
| 14:34:55 | wej | crap. still nothing though |
| 14:35:35 | wej | ok |
| 14:35:38 | wej | i'm nulled in.. |
| 14:35:39 | wej | 115200 |
| 14:35:44 | wej | serial console doesn't show crap... |
| 14:36:12 | wej | #unix... gah. |
| 14:36:25 | sorphin | snickers |
| 14:37:15 | wej | ok |
| 14:37:17 | wej | documentation threw me off |
| 14:37:24 | wej | i KNEW i didnt need a null modem. |
| 14:37:35 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:37:46 | sorphin | depends on how you're connecting to it |
| 14:38:16 | sorphin | uses one, but that's kinda necesary for serial to serial :P |
| 14:38:36 | wej | i'm using serial port on back of peecee |
| 14:38:39 | wej | to tuxscreen. |
| 14:38:42 | sorphin | right |
| 14:38:42 | wej | straight through cable. |
| 14:38:45 | wej | no null needed. |
| 14:38:45 | sorphin | so you need a null :P |
| 14:38:48 | sorphin | wrong |
| 14:38:57 | wej | ok. when i insert the null, i get nothing. |
| 14:39:01 | wej | take null out, works fine. |
| 14:39:06 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:39:06 | wej | must mean this cable is rolled. |
| 14:39:09 | kergoth | sounds like your cable isnt straight through at all |
| 14:39:17 | sorphin | righto :P |
| 14:39:19 | wej | heh. |
| 14:39:30 | wej | alright.. got the blob prompt.... |
| 14:39:35 | wej | but i had to switch back to 9600 baud to see it |
| 14:39:48 | wej | had to send it a character in 115200 baud, then switch back to 9600 |
| 14:39:51 | wej | i must have an old ass blob. |
| 14:39:57 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh.... thats an old school blob |
| 14:39:59 | wej | yeah. |
| 14:40:00 | wej | hehe |
| 14:40:03 | wej | so now load blob .4? |
| 14:40:06 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 14:40:14 | wej | blob> load blob .4 |
| 14:40:18 | wej | *** Unknown command: load blob .4 |
| 14:41:03 | wej | i can just download blob, no? |
| 14:41:14 | CosmicPenguin | yeah thats kind of what we implied |
| 14:41:22 | wej | oh. |
| 14:41:23 | wej | gah. |
| 14:41:25 | wej | i'm a moron. |
| 14:42:23 | wej | so just to be safe... |
| 14:42:26 | wej | download blob... |
| 14:42:27 | wej | then flash blob |
| 14:42:36 | wej | then reblob? |
| 14:42:54 | wej | or is it.. download, flash, shower, and go to work? |
| 14:43:07 | CosmicPenguin | no - download the .4 blob, and flash it. |
| 14:43:21 | wej | what is a .4 blob? |
| 14:43:24 | wej | 2.0.4 you mean? |
| 14:43:27 | CosmicPenguin | Then, download the .6 blob, reblob, and then flash it. |
| 14:43:36 | wej | ok. i'm running on 2.0.4 |
| 14:43:43 | wej | i just grabbed the blob from the download/v0.6 directory |
| 14:43:51 | wej | i just downloaded that under blob 2.0.4 |
| 14:43:53 | CosmicPenguin | But if you don't reblob after downloading the .6 blob, then you will brick your tuxscreen |
| 14:43:54 | wej | i want to flash it now, no? |
| 14:44:00 | CosmicPenguin | no |
| 14:44:05 | wej | doh. |
| 14:44:06 | CosmicPenguin | reblob |
| 14:44:33 | wej | uh oh. |
| 14:44:35 | wej | i reblob |
| 14:44:40 | wej | get extended ascii chars... |
| 14:44:43 | wej | switch term to 115200 |
| 14:44:45 | wej | and nothin. |
| 14:44:55 | wej | i've had more action from one legged hookers. |
| 14:45:50 | CosmicPenguin | The .6 timeout is much faster, so you need to be quicker |
| 14:45:57 | wej | my neighbor down teh street has the jtag dongle.. should i call 'im? :) |
| 14:45:57 | wej | heh. |
| 14:45:57 | wej | oh. |
| 14:46:02 | wej | after i reblob, do i reset the tuxscreen? |
| 14:46:17 | CosmicPenguin | no - the whole idea of reblobing is replacing the bootloader in memory |
| 14:46:22 | wej | right. |
| 14:46:28 | CosmicPenguin | if you reset the memory, then you need to download the bootloader again |
| 14:46:32 | wej | was i supposed to hit something after..... |
| 14:46:57 | wej | ok. i'm deadlocked here... |
| 14:47:01 | CosmicPenguin | In order to even think about doing this right - you need to upgrade to a blob that at least communicates at 115200 all the time |
| 14:47:06 | CosmicPenguin | otherwise, you are screwed |
| 14:47:12 | wej | yeah. |
| 14:47:21 | wej | can i reset the tux and redownload? |
| 14:47:30 | CosmicPenguin | you didn't flash the new blob, right? |
| 14:47:35 | wej | right. |
| 14:47:38 | wej | i did not |
| 14:47:39 | CosmicPenguin | then you can reboot |
| 14:48:49 | wej | man. |
| 14:48:52 | wej | i think i bricked it. |
| 14:48:54 | wej | i didn't flash tho.... |
| 14:48:57 | wej | just dead..... |
| 14:49:58 | wej | nah. it's cool. |
| 14:50:46 | wej | so dude.. after i reblob.. i'm supposed to hit a character real quick like? |
| 14:50:51 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 14:51:15 | wej | yer right. |
| 14:51:22 | wej | i'm screwed unless i've already got a blob that does 115200.... |
| 14:54:18 | CosmicPenguin | I'm pretty sure that .4 did 115200 all the time... I think you've got a much older blob |
| 14:54:24 | wej | mine's 2.0.4 |
| 14:54:38 | wej | that's what it says in the banner at leaset. |
| 14:54:53 | sorphin | umm |
| 14:54:59 | sorphin | 2.0.4 doesn't imply .4 :P |
| 14:55:17 | wej | man. i must be some kinda tard. |
| 14:55:50 | sorphin | indeed. |
| 14:56:04 | sorphin | leaves you in the hands of mr microwindows ;) |
| 14:56:41 | CosmicPenguin | looks around for mr microwindows |
| 14:57:02 | wej | can't catch the reblob.... |
| 14:58:02 | wej | i can't seem to get the blob back after reblob.. |
| 14:58:08 | wej | prolly cuz i have to switch baud to send it anything....... |
| 14:58:17 | wej | so yer right.. but now i can't get to the website to get an older blob than the new blob. |
| 14:58:20 | wej | i can't even get a bjob |
| 14:59:43 | wej | yeah.. routing issue at exodus. |
| 14:59:44 | wej | ugh. |
| 15:01:57 | wej | doh! |
| 15:01:58 | wej | i almost caught it |
| 15:02:02 | wej | reblobbed, switched baud rate |
| 15:02:07 | wej | sent characters, but linux booted too quicklyk. |
| 15:02:07 | wej | hehhe. |
| 15:02:11 | wej | ok. one more try.. then i'm off to work. |
| 15:04:08 | wej | oh hell yeah. |
| 15:04:09 | wej | got it this time. |
| 15:04:22 | wej | now i redownload the new blob, and flash it? |
| 15:05:28 | wej | sorry to nag so much. |
| 15:05:35 | wej | i can't get to the website to search for documentation now :( |
| 15:05:41 | wej | unless i xhost from work.... errrr... |
| 15:06:08 | CosmicPenguin | yes - download the .4 blob, reflash, then download the .6 blob, reblob, and then you can flash it |
| 15:06:24 | CosmicPenguin | Like I said, unless you reblob you will be dead in the water becuase .6 is bigger than the .4 blob allows |
| 15:06:40 | wej | ok.. downloaded the new blob.. reblobbed... |
| 15:06:44 | wej | do i redownload teh new blob again? |
| 15:06:49 | wej | or just flash the one i reblobbed to? |
| 15:07:06 | CosmicPenguin | First, flasht the .4 blob |
| 15:07:13 | wej | ok.. |
| 15:07:14 | wej | fyi... |
| 15:07:17 | wej | i have no idea what you mean by .4 |
| 15:07:23 | wej | i could search the site and find out, but i can't get to it :\ |
| 15:07:31 | wej | 399 ms |
| 15:07:31 | wej | 12 dcr1-so-0-2-0.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.9) 19.209 ms 20.140 ms 19.169 ms |
| 15:07:31 | wej | 13 cable-and-wireless-internal-isp.SantaClara.cw.net (208.172.156.74) 20.912 ms 20.088 ms 19.877 ms |
| 15:07:31 | wej | 14 dcr01-g6-0.sntc05.exodus.net (64.56.192.19) 19.942 ms 19.161 ms 19.638 ms |
| 15:07:31 | wej | 15 * * * |
| 15:07:45 | wej | 14 hops and i still haven't left santa clara |
| 15:08:29 | CosmicPenguin | Well, you will definately need some network connectivity to pull this off |
| 15:08:37 | wej | whyzzat? |
| 15:08:45 | wej | cuz i gotta download a couple of blobs? |
| 15:11:50 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - you need a .4 and a .6 |
| 15:12:02 | wej | i assume taht my 2.0.4 wasn't .4 |
| 15:12:04 | CosmicPenguin | Plus you need a web page because I've got to go in about 20 minutes |
| 15:12:09 | wej | doh. |
| 15:12:10 | wej | heheh. |
| 15:12:15 | wej | it's a bummer.. cuz i'm running on the latest blob.... |
| 15:12:26 | wej | oh gah. you mean 0.4 blob.. and a 0.6 blob... ok |
| 15:12:28 | wej | i'm running on the 0.6 |
| 15:12:37 | wej | i think i *was* running on the 0.4 but i must be wrong cuz you said it should've been all 115200 |
| 15:12:46 | wej | but i got the erblob tow ork and i'm on the new blob.... i guess the 0.6 blob... |
| 15:12:48 | wej | i can't just flash this? |
| 15:12:55 | CosmicPenguin | you have the .6 blob? |
| 15:12:58 | wej | yeah |
| 15:13:00 | CosmicPenguin | are you sure? |
| 15:13:00 | wej | it downloaded |
| 15:13:02 | wej | and i reblobbed it. |
| 15:13:11 | wej | i'm running on it |
| 15:13:14 | wej | th ehelp syntax changed and everything. |
| 15:13:40 | wej | and it's all 115200 now.. nice. |
| 15:14:05 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not going to tell you to flash, because then if it bricks your tuxscreen then you'll blame me |
| 15:15:47 | wej | heh. |
| 15:15:50 | wej | no i won't mang. |
| 15:15:53 | wej | my neighbor has the jtag dongle |
| 15:15:58 | wej | and i have another tuxscreen in the closet ready to roll. |
| 15:16:11 | wej | i'm gonna by a few more if thi scar projects works. |
| 15:18:25 | prpplague | wej: buy afew more tuxes? |
| 15:18:40 | wej | yeah. |
| 15:18:40 | CosmicPenguin | wej: no more tuxes available |
| 15:18:44 | wej | DOH |
| 15:18:51 | prpplague | wej: need check the topic |
| 15:18:52 | wej | man. well i'm glad i got two.... |
| 15:18:53 | wej | gah. |
| 15:18:56 | wej | i can't |
| 15:19:01 | wej | can't get to sourcefourge/tuxscreen.net right now. |
| 15:19:04 | prpplague | wej: ohh |
| 15:19:06 | CosmicPenguin | but you are on irc |
| 15:19:09 | CosmicPenguin | its in the topic |
| 15:19:18 | | no idea, cosmicpenguin |
| 15:19:18 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: topic? |
| 15:19:20 | wej | oh |
| 15:19:22 | wej | heh |
| 15:19:28 | CosmicPenguin | bah - what kind of IRC bot are you? |
| 15:19:48 | prpplague | wej: other arm dev boards should be on the way soon! |
| 15:19:55 | CosmicPenguin | mmm.... arm |
| 15:20:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh i hate debugging app that i have no direct access to! |
| 15:20:52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got a random bug in a handheld in barbados.... |
| 15:21:42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ouch..... |
| 15:21:51 | CosmicPenguin | they have no backups? |
| 15:22:11 | wej | prpplague: cool about the new arm boards. |
| 15:22:15 | wej | i have a DNARD here... |
| 15:22:20 | wej | it's gonna go in my trunk as it has an ide controller and stereo audio out... |
| 15:22:35 | wej | good to see you guys again... and thanks much for the help as usual... i'm off to work. |
| 15:22:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its driving me nuts, i can't replicate the problem here, so i've loaded down the handheld with syslog debugs and sending it to a file on the server |
| 15:23:03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I hate that.... |
| 15:28:05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't know how np does it, i feel totally blind |
| 15:30:08 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: forward the port to your machine |
| 15:30:15 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: run the app on your machine |
| 15:30:17 | CosmicPenguin | I like to have my hands on the thing personally, but I hate to travel, so thats your proverbial array[2] = { rock, hard_place } |
| 15:30:34 | CosmicPenguin | oops.... array[3] = { rock, me, hard_place } |
| 15:31:43 | CosmicPenguin | Ok, I gottta meeting |
| 15:31:55 | CosmicPenguin | is away: loooonnnngggg meeting |
| 15:33:07 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: btw.. a .6 is close ot fitting now, but is a minor risk.. my current blob is definately too big ;) |
| 15:35:07 | prpplague | Russ: can't its a custom handheld device |
| 15:38:20 | prpplague | Russ: i thinks a problem in the host application |
| 15:42:37 | prpplague | Russ: http://www.barcodehq.com/rfterminal.html |
| 15:44:24 | Russ | you can't make it run on your machine? |
| 15:45:03 | prpplague | Russ: yes i've got a identical unit, however i'm unable to replicate the problem |
| 16:07:25 | sorphin | trillback: is it him or memorex |
| 16:26:18 | legodude | sorphin: wha? |
| 16:26:28 | sorphin | ah there you are |
| 16:26:38 | legodude | ja |
| 16:26:43 | legodude | trillian gets confused at times |
| 16:26:43 | sorphin | might be taking that mem off your hands ;) |
| 16:26:51 | legodude | ahso |
| 16:26:54 | sorphin | btw |
| 16:27:01 | sorphin | i'm using that alpha of Gaim for Win32 |
| 16:27:04 | sorphin | works well enough |
| 16:27:07 | legodude | you like? |
| 16:27:13 | legodude | I was never impressed that much with gaim |
| 16:27:22 | sorphin | heh, does what i need |
| 16:27:24 | legodude | I wrote a plugin for it and the api was nice and all |
| 16:27:25 | sorphin | sends messages ;) |
| 16:27:28 | legodude | but compared to trillian... |
| 16:27:40 | sorphin | trillian crashes if i do anything w/ my lists :P |
| 16:27:50 | legodude | that sux0rs |
| 16:27:54 | sorphin | indeed |
| 16:27:58 | sorphin | if i add or remove someone |
| 16:28:01 | legodude | I dunno if it's ever crashed for me |
| 16:28:02 | sorphin | count on 30 secs later |
| 16:28:03 | sorphin | boom |
| 16:28:07 | sorphin | crash |
| 16:28:25 | sorphin | anyhoo |
| 16:28:40 | sorphin | < 2 days on those $30 sunpcis |
| 16:28:45 | legodude | nice |
| 16:28:49 | sorphin | the 1st 600 one went for 165 |
| 16:28:52 | legodude | sunpci is really a great product |
| 16:28:55 | legodude | wow |
| 16:29:00 | legodude | that's a pretty good deal even |
| 16:29:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, i got it! a stupid typo was causing init to respawn the app even thought one of the children wasn't dead yet! |
| 16:29:04 | sorphin | yeah |
| 16:29:06 | legodude | I think those are current |
| 16:29:10 | sorphin | missed it |
| 16:29:23 | sorphin | twas a dutch |
| 16:29:28 | sorphin | maybe he'll relist |
| 16:29:50 | sorphin | had 17 of em |
| 16:29:52 | sorphin | sold... |
| 16:29:57 | sorphin | 5 |
| 16:30:12 | legodude | try emailing him and saying you'll give him the ending price for one |
| 16:30:16 | legodude | I do that decently often |
| 16:30:23 | sorphin | well |
| 16:30:30 | sorphin | he relisted the other 10 |
| 16:30:32 | legodude | ahso |
| 16:30:33 | sorphin | for 185 :/ |
| 16:30:38 | legodude | sunpci is only $500 |
| 16:30:42 | legodude | I thought it was a lot more |
| 16:31:08 | sorphin | wtf did he relist for $20 more |
| 16:31:09 | sorphin | grr |
| 16:31:21 | legodude | people do stuff like that all the time |
| 16:31:32 | sorphin | well, i'm not paying $20 more :P |
| 16:31:35 | legodude | sometimes it's cause the inital price was too low |
| 16:31:42 | legodude | but often they're just dumb |
| 16:31:44 | sorphin | thats his fault then :P |
| 16:32:20 | legodude | does not like this english paper |
| 16:32:35 | sorphin | think i should still mail him anyways tho? pretend i didn't see the relist? |
| 16:32:47 | legodude | doesn't hurt to try |
| 16:32:50 | sorphin | true |
| 16:32:53 | legodude | it'll take 1min to fire off the email |
| 16:33:00 | legodude | sometimes I get even lower prices |
| 16:33:04 | sorphin | :) |
| 16:34:42 | sorphin | how should i word this.. |
| 16:35:57 | legodude | I see you didn't sell all of your SunPCIs at auction and I found the page only after the item ended but am still interested in one. Would you sell me one for the ending price? |
| 16:36:00 | legodude | something like that |
| 16:36:09 | sorphin | that works.. |
| 16:42:20 | sorphin | welp, i mailed him.. see what happens |
| 16:49:32 | Russ|werk | what is a sunpci? |
| 16:49:43 | sorphin | tis a pci card for an ultra sparc |
| 16:49:47 | sorphin | that has a peecee on it |
| 16:49:52 | Russ|werk | ah |
| 16:50:00 | sorphin | actually rather neat |
| 16:50:17 | Russ|werk | ya, I remember something like that for macs |
| 16:50:32 | sorphin | yeah |
| 17:01:42 | legodude | there was? |
| 17:01:45 | legodude | oooh |
| 17:01:46 | legodude | ya |
| 17:01:50 | legodude | for 6100 |
| 17:01:51 | legodude | dos card |
| 17:01:56 | legodude | others too I think |
| 17:02:05 | legodude | that wasn't as nice as sunpci think though |
| 17:03:33 | Russ|werk | its wasn't sun hardware, what do you expect |
| 17:03:40 | sorphin | hehe |
| 17:04:17 | sorphin | legodude: can't tell from pics, can you swap that proc on the sunpciII (not pro, but the 300-400mhz one) |
| 17:04:19 | sorphin | ? |
| 17:04:38 | legodude | sunpci ain't that slow |
| 17:04:41 | legodude | er |
| 17:04:43 | legodude | sunpci II |
| 17:04:55 | legodude | sunpci original are 300-400mhz amds |
| 17:05:01 | sorphin | nono |
| 17:05:02 | legodude | and you can upgrade those to 500 max |
| 17:05:08 | legodude | the sunpci II is the one with celeron |
| 17:05:09 | sorphin | SunPCI original |
| 17:05:13 | sorphin | was SBus |
| 17:05:15 | legodude | no |
| 17:05:19 | sorphin | according to Sun |
| 17:05:19 | legodude | that was sunPC |
| 17:05:22 | legodude | no i |
| 17:05:44 | legodude | sunPC was 486sx/25, dx/66, and amd 5x86 133 |
| 17:05:55 | sorphin | and Sbus only |
| 17:05:58 | legodude | ja |
| 17:06:04 | Russ|werk | can you put these in a regular pc too? |
| 17:06:09 | legodude | those are SBUS |
| 17:06:14 | legodude | normal pc don't have sbus slots |
| 17:06:16 | legodude | or drivers |
| 17:06:23 | legodude | you can put sunpci into a pc |
| 17:06:23 | Russ|werk | then why is it called a sunpci? |
| 17:06:25 | legodude | but no drivers |
| 17:06:27 | Russ|werk | thats what I mean |
| 17:06:35 | Russ|werk | ok, its time to write linux drivers |
| 17:06:38 | Russ|werk | screw vm ware |
| 17:06:48 | legodude | that'd be very cool |
| 17:07:17 | legodude | sorphin: are you asking if you can swap processors on the celeron models? |
| 17:07:19 | legodude | the sunpci II? |
| 17:08:21 | sorphin | no, i was talkin about the amd |
| 17:08:28 | sorphin | but, yeah, the celeron too i suppose |
| 17:08:36 | legodude | celeron I'm not sure about, but I think you can |
| 17:08:44 | legodude | amd I know for certain that you can upgrade it to 500mhz |
| 17:08:51 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:08:59 | sorphin | Russ|werk: yeah, that would be uber cool |
| 17:09:12 | sorphin | legodude: yo usure about putting it in a peecee |
| 17:09:13 | sorphin | ? |
| 17:09:18 | sorphin | thought it's a 64 bit card :P |
| 17:09:23 | legodude | no |
| 17:09:26 | legodude | 32bit |
| 17:09:27 | sorphin | umm |
| 17:09:34 | sorphin | somewhere i read this shit |
| 17:09:36 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:09:40 | legodude | I'm pretty sure it's 32bit |
| 17:09:41 | legodude | lemme look |
| 17:10:25 | legodude | sunpci II is 64bit |
| 17:10:32 | legodude | 1 is 32bit |
| 17:10:55 | legodude | actually |
| 17:11:03 | legodude | I think the II can even fall-back to 32bit support |
| 17:11:04 | sorphin | thought so |
| 17:11:25 | legodude | yup |
| 17:11:28 | legodude | 32 or 64bit |
| 17:11:39 | legodude | original is 32bit only |
| 17:15:17 | legodude | people got linux to work on II |
| 17:22:40 | sorphin | now just need drivers to use II in a peecee |
| 17:24:38 | legodude | it could probably be done |
| 17:24:42 | legodude | no specs |
| 17:24:43 | legodude | but it is mostly hardware |
| 17:24:47 | sorphin | yeah |
| 17:24:47 | legodude | you'd have to init the card |
| 17:24:55 | legodude | and then provide the virtual disk |
| 17:25:02 | sorphin | could rev engineer the sparc ones |
| 17:25:15 | legodude | ja |
| 17:25:19 | legodude | I'm out |
| 17:25:20 | legodude | seeya all |
| 17:25:52 | sorphin | cya |
| 17:29:42 | Russ|werk | andersee: you about? |
| 17:30:46 | sorphin | "just click your heals 3 times and say busybox busybox busybox and he shall appear" *grin* |
| 17:30:57 | andersee | Russ|werk: yup |
| 17:31:03 | Russ|werk | andersee: two things |
| 17:31:05 | andersee | Russ|werk: whats up |
| 17:31:16 | Russ|werk | andersee: first, I noticed you can't turn off true and false in busybox |
| 17:31:25 | Russ|werk | andersee: second I noticed a udhcp option :) |
| 17:32:14 | andersee | Russ|werk: you can't turn off test, true, and false if ash is enabled. |
| 17:32:22 | Russ|werk | andersee: I didn't look at what level of patching is required, but I'd probably be nice if I made a busybox.h and busybox.c wrapper file or somesuch that compiles with it when its stand alone |
| 17:32:26 | Russ|werk | andersee: ah |
| 17:32:47 | Russ|werk | but then when you want it in busybox, you just copy over all the source files, except busybox.h and busybox.c, and you are set |
| 17:32:50 | andersee | Russ|werk: that would be nice |
| 17:32:52 | Russ|werk | so its easy to sync |
| 17:33:20 | Russ|werk | andersee: do you have a patch against the udhcp sources for it to be in busybox? |
| 17:33:28 | Russ|werk | andersee: also, which shell is smallest? |
| 17:33:39 | andersee | Russ|werk: smallest shell is lash |
| 17:34:07 | andersee | Russ|werk: "lash -- the BusyBox Lame-Ass SHell" |
| 17:34:18 | Russ|werk | where is a reboot command, I just want a linuxrc script that does a few things, and then reboots |
| 17:34:24 | andersee | Russ|werk: it is sufficient for basic command line ops |
| 17:35:04 | andersee | Russ|werk: If you look at the latest version of reboot, there is a not-exposed option to reboot (i.e. not via init) |
| 17:35:26 | Russ|werk | ? |
| 17:35:41 | Russ|werk | you mean the source |
| 17:38:57 | andersee | yup. The source to reboot.c |
| 17:39:42 | Russ|werk | I'm not seeing what I need to do |
| 17:40:54 | andersee | Russ|werk: Add in '#define CONFIG_USER_INIT' and then busybox reboot will directly reboot the machine |
| 17:41:30 | Russ|werk | and how do I compile that in without adding init? |
| 17:46:39 | andersee | You may need to hack the config.in file a little bit... |
| 17:47:11 | andersee | i.e. init/config.in |
| 17:54:40 | sorphin | legodude: bah, all they replied is that more are up for sale :P (at the $20 more).. |
| 17:57:04 | Russ|werk | k...but it won't compile |
| 17:57:10 | Russ|werk | where is CONSOLE defined? |
| 17:57:14 | sorphin | floods files w/ PPPoE packets |
| 17:57:16 | sorphin | -s |
| 17:57:41 | file | sorphin: my ISP forced me to reconnect by disabling the nameservers for me |
| 17:57:52 | sorphin | haha |
| 17:58:30 | Russ|werk | and LOG... |
| 17:58:57 | Russ|werk | kernelVersion, KERNEL_VERSION... |
| 17:59:56 | Russ|werk | just comments it all out |
| 18:00:41 | sorphin | Russ|werk: that's the spirit ;) |
| 18:07:02 | file | well this bites... my step-brother never returned the old modem for his ADSL service that was on our line |
| 18:07:07 | file | so know we get charged $250+ |
| 18:07:09 | file | er now |
| 18:07:20 | sorphin | oops ;p |
| 18:07:25 | Russ|werk | I bet it was a real peice of crap too |
| 18:07:42 | file | it was a Mainstreet Express |
| 18:07:54 | file | better than what we get now... |
| 18:08:00 | file | that thing was metal - I've got plastic |
| 18:09:44 | file | honestly... $250+ |
| 18:22:36 | prpplague | andersee: the nc code in bb is pretty modular right? i should be able to yank it over into another app pretty easy? |
| 18:23:06 | file | gives prpplague some beer |
| 18:23:38 | andersee | prpplague: sure |
| 18:23:38 | prpplague | give back the watery canadian brew |
| 18:23:50 | file | prpplague: I had it shipped in from the US! |
| 18:23:58 | prpplague | file: that explains it then |
| 18:24:17 | file | bah |
| 18:24:30 | file | hands prpplague a tall glass of pepsi blue |
| 18:24:36 | sorphin | gives prpplague one of those.. nasty dark beers he likes :P |
| 18:24:41 | sorphin | file: that's good stuff |
| 18:25:10 | file | I don't like it... it was too fruity |
| 18:25:20 | file | fruity taste isn't good with fizzy stuff |
| 18:25:30 | sorphin | wuss |
| 18:25:44 | file | I had to throw it on... couldn't stand it |
| 18:25:47 | file | er throw it out |
| 18:28:06 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 02:56:11) |
| 18:28:15 | file | wb CosmicPenguin |
| 18:28:17 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: going to SLLUG tonight? |
| 18:28:45 | prpplague | wonders if he could replace the sales department with a fleet of ARM based cyborgs |
| 18:28:59 | sorphin | prpplague: that'd prolly make them worse |
| 18:29:09 | sorphin | they'd be tryign to assimilate everything |
| 18:29:25 | CosmicPenguin | but only at 266 Mhz |
| 18:29:36 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I'd like to. Depends if my wife is having a bad day with the kids... |
| 18:29:43 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: you? |
| 18:29:51 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: if you do, I'll go too and bring a certain JTAG attachment |
| 18:30:02 | andersee | is preparing the changelog for busybox 0.60.4 |
| 18:30:10 | prpplague | sorphin: at least when they perform an 'OOPS' you can debug the problem, with the current config, they just sweep it rug |
| 18:30:13 | sorphin | bit late innit? |
| 18:30:25 | sorphin | prpplague: true |
| 18:30:32 | sorphin | best of both worlds was on last night |
| 18:36:41 | sorphin | legodude: annoys me about sun's download pages crap |
| 18:36:45 | sorphin | pulling the drivers.. |
| 18:37:47 | legodude | howso? |
| 18:38:07 | sorphin | for one |
| 18:38:13 | sorphin | can't wget the shit |
| 18:38:19 | sorphin | and all the logging in, etc.. |
| 18:38:31 | legodude | oh, ja |
| 18:38:34 | legodude | that does all blow |
| 18:38:37 | legodude | I think you can finally wget it |
| 18:38:45 | legodude | though that might have been back before the redid it |
| 18:38:47 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www2.clearlake.ibm.com/store/support/html/drivers.html |
| 18:38:48 | legodude | I don't remember |
| 18:39:34 | prpplague | sorphin: check out the note at the bottom of the page, the linux drivers have gone from 8/10, 8/15,8/20,9/10 and now 9/24 |
| 18:40:34 | sorphin | prpplague: figures |
| 18:40:35 | prpplague | sorphin: here ibm is push linux support and i can't even get someone on the phone that knows what linux is |
| 18:40:45 | sorphin | hehe |
| 18:40:46 | sorphin | oops |
| 18:41:39 | file | prpplague: that sucks |
| 18:41:50 | sorphin | prpplague: surePOS is right ;) |
| 18:41:55 | sorphin | sure is a POS ;) |
| 18:42:13 | prpplague | sorphin: you said it |
| 18:42:35 | sorphin | legodude: i prolly could wget it, if i could catch their damn alternating colo urls |
| 18:43:02 | legodude | ja |
| 18:43:18 | legodude | their site is pretty fast which is nice |
| 18:43:21 | legodude | what you downloading? |
| 18:43:36 | sorphin | but none of these browsers here will display the whole damn d/l url |
| 18:43:49 | sorphin | drivers for sunpci/sunpci2 |
| 18:45:08 | legodude | I'm gonna bust out for a while, I gotta get this paper done before 8 and I've not yet even started |
| 18:45:15 | sorphin | doh |
| 18:45:18 | sorphin | get on it then ;) |
| 18:47:21 | bhima | yawns and wavels. |
| 18:47:38 | sorphin | bhima: we know you're boring :P |
| 18:48:08 | bhima | I know it to. But the imposition of my boring personality on other people is one of the few joys I have in life. |
| 18:48:29 | sorphin | seeing as you go to cmu, i can see why ;) |
| 18:48:30 | bhima | Would you be such a bitter, antagnostic and hateful person and deny me even such small joys? |
| 18:48:31 | Russ|werk | hmmm... |
| 18:48:40 | Russ|werk | I think I'm doing this initrd thing wrong |
| 18:48:45 | sorphin | prolly |
| 18:48:54 | Russ|werk | a) use a straight cramfs 'RAMDISK: Couldn't find valid RAM disk image starting at 0.' |
| 18:48:57 | bhima | actually, most people that meet me ask if I'm always "this hyper" |
| 18:48:59 | bhima | and I always am. |
| 18:49:05 | Russ|werk | b) gzip it first 'RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0' |
| 18:49:10 | bhima | 'cept when I sleep. |
| 18:49:12 | Russ|werk | 'cramfs: wrong magic' |
| 18:49:33 | bhima | I got a 10/100 Linksys PCMCIA card for $17.50 from walmart. |
| 18:49:38 | file | wow |
| 18:49:41 | bhima | might be 3.3v, not sure. |
| 18:49:54 | Russ|werk | andersee: for the udhcpc thing, would you mind having a seperate direcotry with seperate source files? would there be any disadvantage to that? |
| 18:49:58 | bhima | the box says 5v, the manual says 3.3v, the web says 3.3v but that rev 2 (which the box says this is) won't work. |
| 18:50:05 | bhima | (won't work on linux, that is) |
| 18:50:05 | sorphin | bhima: you mean a rebrand card ;) |
| 18:50:17 | sorphin | linksys doesn't make anything |
| 18:50:18 | Russ|werk | bhima: I'm guessing its cardbus |
| 18:50:25 | bhima | nonono. not cardbus. |
| 18:50:31 | bhima | 16 bit PCMCIA. |
| 18:50:34 | bhima | it works on the tuxscreen |
| 18:50:44 | file | hey BZFlag |
| 18:50:55 | bhima | waves at bzf |
| 18:51:01 | sorphin | and there's mr lineo himself |
| 18:51:45 | bhima | if I want to pulse a GPIO pin for 50ms +/- 1ms, what would be the appropriate way to do that? should I worry 'bout disabling interrupts? |
| 18:51:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: anyidea what the default action of the bb wget is when downloading a file that already exists? |
| 18:52:04 | BZFlag | hey all. |
| 18:52:20 | levi | Hey BZFlag |
| 18:52:29 | file | exists |
| 18:52:49 | Nermal | :D |
| 18:52:49 | | ACTION file: no |
| 18:52:49 | prpplague | ibot: tell file |
| 18:53:03 | file | still exists |
| 18:53:44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not sure |
| 18:53:50 | CosmicPenguin | but the code will tell |
| 18:54:21 | sorphin | Nermal: muhahhahah |
| 18:56:56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it seems to open the filename as "a" if continue is set, and "w" if it isn't. |
| 18:57:14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so that seems to mean that it will truncate it |
| 18:57:52 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: hm, imho it should save to filename.[1234567890] ala regular wget.. |
| 18:58:58 | file | hi mallum |
| 18:59:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks thats what my tests hold out as |
| 18:59:29 | sorphin | kergoth: they asked a Q ot you last night about digi crap |
| 18:59:43 | file | is tempted to reinstall Windows NT 4 |
| 18:59:47 | kergoth | sorphin: glad i wasnt here then :-P |
| 18:59:58 | prpplague | that makes two of us |
| 19:00:07 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:00:15 | sorphin | think it was monmotha |
| 19:00:19 | sorphin | asking about digi and the i960 |
| 19:00:40 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i think it was related to the processor on the portserver II |
| 19:00:46 | kergoth | prpplague: ahh |
| 19:00:50 | kergoth | gotcha |
| 19:00:58 | mallum | hey file |
| 19:01:09 | file | I look terrible and I've got school pictures tomorrow, great |
| 19:02:53 | Nermal | d0h :| |
| 19:04:00 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: good idea |
| 19:20:18 | prpplague | anyone seen these before - http://www.rabbitsemiconductor.com/products/coreModules.html |
| 19:21:32 | scan[ibook] | I've seen those things advertised in Circuit Cellar for a while now... been thinking about getting a dev kit, but haven't tried them yet |
| 19:21:47 | CosmicPenguin | starts a 3 hour build ession |
| 19:22:37 | CosmicPenguin | If you've never tried an ession, you really should... :) |
| 19:22:56 | scan[ibook] | will make a note to try an ession next time he builds mozilla |
| 19:23:02 | prpplague | scan[ibook]: they look interesting, too bad they have such small ram/flash |
| 19:23:21 | scan[ibook] | prpplague: they're more like a big microcontroller than a small microprocessor |
| 19:24:03 | prpplague | scan[ibook]: it looks like they can run microcos |
| 19:24:13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: they look like fun.... |
| 19:24:19 | scan[ibook] | hmm |
| 19:24:33 | scan[ibook] | I wonder if gcc has support for them =) |
| 19:24:35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: arn't they just a integrated asic? |
| 19:24:59 | scan[ibook] | I know it comes with their own C compiler.. probably windows only binary only though |
| 19:25:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not sure, i'm just reading about them now |
| 19:25:33 | BZFlag | anyone try MicroWindows with viewml using uclibc yet? |
| 19:25:42 | CosmicPenguin | only 512K memory for the program |
| 19:25:50 | CosmicPenguin | BZFlag: its a non starter - viewml requires libpthreads |
| 19:26:22 | CosmicPenguin | it looks like it is a specialized asic.... you could do something cute like stick an hardware based firewall on there or something |
| 19:26:54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was more interested in cheap print server |
| 19:27:00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm..... |
| 19:27:38 | prpplague | if i new the first thing about uClinux, i'd tackle digi's print server |
| 19:27:56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: You could do it, but I'll bet you gotta pay the $395 for the C complier... I doubt that the OSS world will help |
| 19:28:07 | sorphin | yeah |
| 19:29:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 19:30:00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: once again, it comes back to the i960... :) |
| 19:30:23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you doing something with i960 too? |
| 19:30:47 | CosmicPenguin | Thats a cute little chip - it was the workhorse of our switches at Cabletron.... It was easy to debug with an ICE, and it could handle a good amount of load |
| 19:30:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: digi's print server has a net+arm arm7 IIRC |
| 19:31:10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I don't know... I haven't seen it |
| 19:31:14 | file | smacks himself unconcious with a Netwinder |
| 19:31:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: let me grab one |
| 19:32:06 | CosmicPenguin | has been solidly in x86 land for the last 6 months |
| 19:32:31 | scan[ibook] | oh no, x86 land is evil... |
| 19:33:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, net+arm, 10baseT, reset button , parallel port, serial port, jtag, looks like 2meg ram, and 1 meg flash |
| 19:33:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ohh, and two gpio leds |
| 19:33:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hell this would make a nice dev board |
| 19:34:50 | prpplague | BZFlag: hey wasn't someone at lineo working on the linux port to net+arm? |
| 19:36:32 | CosmicPenguin | uclinux doesn't already have one? |
| 19:38:10 | Russ|werk | that isn't very much ram/flash... |
| 19:39:39 | CosmicPenguin | enough for a printserv |
| 19:39:56 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 19:40:32 | file | tempus fugit! |
| 19:40:50 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i'm checking the chips now |
| 19:41:28 | CosmicPenguin | tempus fugit? Storm get out? |
| 19:42:07 | sorphin | never did pop open my lantronix printserver |
| 19:42:39 | kergoth | prpplague: digi printserver? that miLAN unit? |
| 19:43:36 | prpplague | kergoth: ya the milan unit |
| 19:44:04 | prpplague | sorphin: almost all of the print servers are arm based but without a mmu |
| 19:45:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: interesting..., the mil-p3830 even has solder points for all the processor i/o |
| 19:45:43 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:45:50 | sorphin | i'll have to crack it open at some point |
| 19:46:00 | prpplague | let me see if i can find my a camera |
| 19:50:05 | prpplague | BZFlag: if you could get the info on the net+arm port this unit could be your next hack! |
| 19:51:03 | prpplague | kergoth: too bad this things doesn't have a mmu |
| 19:51:28 | scan[ibook] | first thing you'd be hacking on it is a memory upgrade :) |
| 19:52:08 | kergoth | prpplague: no kidding |
| 19:52:37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: wow.... if we could get the specs, this could be a fun diversion |
| 19:52:57 | CosmicPenguin | "Anything to take my mind off my life" (obligatory Simpsons quote) |
| 19:54:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: doubt that, milan can't even talk to their sister company netsilicon that makes the processor, much less talk to us |
| 19:55:33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: funny thing is, that netsilicon has been boasting linux support for the net+arm for over a year, yet if you call, they try to sell you everything but linux, and when you ask for linux, they tell you they'll have to get back with you, and then never call back |
| 19:56:26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the bastards! |
| 19:56:50 | andersee | just released Busybox 0.60.4... |
| 19:57:03 | prpplague | hates companies that talk the talk, but don't walk the walk |
| 19:57:32 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: changelog online? |
| 19:57:42 | prpplague | andersee: did you add evolution->busybox? lol |
| 19:57:46 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: http://www.busybox.net/ |
| 19:58:21 | sorphin | andersee: thought you did that weeks ago.. |
| 19:58:27 | andersee | Grab it now before it hits freshmeat and folks saturate the site. |
| 19:58:42 | andersee | sorphin: wanted to.... |
| 20:00:12 | sorphin | hmm |
| 20:20:28 | CosmicPenguin | man, what kind of freaky indent system does busybox have |
| 20:20:34 | CosmicPenguin | emacs pukes all over it |
| 20:20:57 | sorphin | umm |
| 20:21:00 | sorphin | emacs sucks, that's why |
| 20:21:22 | sorphin | Lucky_Bastard: now what'd you do? |
| 20:23:05 | Lucky_Bastard | uhh.... |
| 20:24:25 | Russ|werk | andersee: lash understands PATH=, yes? |
| 20:25:07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so what kind of functionality did you want for BB wget? |
| 20:25:25 | CosmicPenguin | simple patch for filename.[12345]: http://www.xmission.com/~cpenguin/patches/busybox-0.60.2-wget.diff |
| 20:27:05 | andersee | Russ|werk: I believe so |
| 20:27:17 | andersee | Russ|werk: Its been a while since I wrote/used it |
| 20:27:46 | Russ|werk | k, caus I'm getting the falling off the end of the earth serial port garbage |
| 20:28:15 | Russ|werk | andersee: did you get my question about udhcp having its own dir? |
| 20:28:24 | Russ|werk | and seperate source files? |
| 20:30:01 | andersee | Russ: I'm ok with that |
| 20:30:22 | Russ|werk | k |
| 20:35:26 | Russ|werk | think I should keep busybox Makefile.in and config.in in udhcp cvs? |
| 20:35:36 | Russ|werk | hmm...probably not |
| 20:36:17 | Russ|werk | auto: applet not fouKernel panic: Attempted to kill init! nd |
| 20:36:20 | Russ|werk | hmmm |
| 20:36:25 | Russ|werk | where did I call auto? |
| 20:37:35 | Russ|werk | hmm...syslinux did it... |
| 20:37:43 | Russ|werk | Kernel command line: initrd=image.cramfs ramdisk_size=4096 root=/dev/ram0 console=ttyS0,115200,115200n8 init=/bin/sh BOOT_IMAGE=linux auto |
| 20:44:00 | Russ|werk | Phase 1. Checkininvalid operand: 0000 |
| 20:44:01 | Russ|werk | phuck |
| 20:44:23 | file | goes to rewrite his HTML parser and redrawing stuff |
| 20:46:11 | sorphin | dir |
| 20:46:13 | sorphin | grr |
| 20:46:48 | file | gah |
| 20:53:19 | Russ|werk | hmmm |
| 20:53:28 | Russ|werk | seems nftl_format compiled with a ud2a |
| 20:53:34 | Russ|werk | '["ud2a" is the guaranteed illegal opcode on ia32.]' |
| 20:57:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was just writing a update script that used wget, i needed to know if i needed to remove the file first before doing a wget on the new version of the file |
| 20:57:44 | prpplague | Russ|werk: you doing some DOC work? |
| 20:57:51 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 20:58:04 | Russ|werk | I have a kernel invalid operand message here |
| 20:58:14 | Russ|werk | claiming that nftl_format tried to do a ud2a |
| 20:58:23 | Russ|werk | but I can't find it in the complied binary anywhere |
| 20:58:49 | bg | n8 all |
| 20:59:00 | sorphin | eh? |
| 20:59:13 | prpplague | Russ|werk: interesting |
| 21:03:25 | prpplague | kergoth: any of the other digi products use arm? |
| 21:04:36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ahh... anyway, the patch may be interesting to somebody |
| 21:04:55 | CosmicPenguin | I'll diff it against 60.4 and send it to andersee. |
| 21:05:50 | andersee | is away: taking a nap |
| 21:06:14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what patch? |
| 21:07:09 | sorphin | the wget one i'd presume |
| 21:07:43 | Russ|werk | oh |
| 21:07:43 | Russ|werk | duh |
| 21:07:54 | Russ|werk | I put code in the kernel to protect the media header |
| 21:08:03 | Russ|werk | BUG() == ud2a |
| 21:12:51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: http://www.xmission.com/~cpenguin/patches/busybox-0.60.2-wget.diff |
| 21:13:08 | CosmicPenguin | is away: off to fight with the storage unit idots |
| 21:24:25 | prpplague | heads home (sigwife birthday) |
| 21:36:42 | as | Evnin all. |
| 21:38:30 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 00:25:22) |
| 22:15:10 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Off to home |
| 22:24:04 | MonMotha | ya know...the i960 spec sheet/ref guide is big :) |
| 22:24:11 | MonMotha | 127 pages |
| 22:43:12 | BZFlag | CosmicPenguin: what's in the diff? |
| 22:43:57 | BZFlag | ahh. adding .n to the end of the filename. |
| 22:44:31 | BZFlag | likes having to delete the file first. |
| 22:52:33 | CosmicPenguin | BZFlag: maybe we should add it under the -nc (noclobber) flag, or #ifdef it |
| 22:53:24 | BZFlag | perhaps. ask Erik. |
| 22:53:40 | CosmicPenguin | I think he's taking a nap |
| 22:53:43 | CosmicPenguin | andersee? |
| 22:53:47 | BZFlag | a WGET_REVISIONS would work for me. |
| 22:53:58 | BZFlag | I'll bug him at sllug |
| 22:59:35 | CosmicPenguin | BZFlag: I'm coming too |
| 23:03:40 | BZFlag | cool. cya there. I better get on the road. |
| 23:20:15 | CosmicPenguin | is away: off to sllug |