| 01:10:48 | Barbicane | hrm... I have lost andersee :( |
| 01:12:50 | cpenguin_home | Barbicane: on the phone? |
| 01:13:02 | Barbicane | no, havent called yet.. |
| 01:13:05 | cpenguin_home | Barbicane: its very stormy here - I've already lost power twice tonight |
| 01:13:21 | Barbicane | hrm... |
| 02:12:35 | sorphin | sjhill: re |
| 02:12:53 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
| 02:12:58 | sjhill | sorphin: do you use debian? |
| 02:13:38 | sorphin | yes |
| 02:13:48 | sorphin | there was debian on the tivo you were on too ;) |
| 02:13:54 | sjhill | can you help me with a 'source.list' question? |
| 02:13:58 | sorphin | yup |
| 02:14:01 | sorphin | what's the Q? |
| 02:15:49 | sorphin | sjhill: momemnt. |
| 02:19:13 | sorphin | sjhill: tis on the front page |
| 02:19:15 | sorphin | you do like: |
| 02:19:16 | sorphin | [3 December] My unofficial XFree86 package repository has been |
| 02:19:16 | sorphin | resurrected. At present there isn't a lot to see yet, but here's the |
| 02:19:16 | sorphin | apt line: |
| 02:19:16 | sorphin | deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ebranden/ woody/$(ARCH)/ |
| 02:19:17 | sorphin | In the event that potato packages are made available, they will of |
| 02:19:19 | sorphin | course use the following: |
| 02:19:20 | sorphin | deb http://people.debian.org/%7Ebranden/ potato/$(ARCH)/ |
| 02:19:34 | sorphin | :) |
| 02:19:54 | sorphin | so in your case it's just sid/$(ARCH)/ |
| 02:21:40 | sjhill | yup, got it |
| 02:22:11 | sorphin | :) |
| 02:22:44 | sjhill | i'm not impressed with the 'sources.list' manpage |
| 02:22:58 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:22:59 | sorphin | indeeed |
| 02:23:09 | sorphin | that's why i went to his main page.. |
| 04:36:01 | TurboBee | hey ibot |
| 04:36:55 | | que tal, AeroSpace |
| 04:36:55 | AeroSpace | ibot hello |
| 04:37:14 | | bzflag was last seen on #familiar 4 hours, 5 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: Zaerc: yeah, I know. I'm just griping that the busybox in the familiar feed does not have telnet or pivot_root enabled. [Tue Sep 17 01:31:47 2002] |
| 04:37:14 | AeroSpace | ibot seen bzflag |
| 04:41:15 | TurboBee | ibot help |
| 04:41:42 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:42:43 | TurboBee | :( |
| 04:42:55 | AeroSpace | ibot: help slashdot |
| 04:43:02 | TurboBee | he's definatly not the bot im looking for :/ |
| 04:43:11 | sorphin | um.. prolly not.. |
| 04:46:13 | sorphin | "this isn't the bot you're looking for"... |
| 04:47:00 | TurboBee | im looking for a bot, with a very good ai system |
| 04:47:06 | sorphin | well.. ibot isn't it.. |
| 04:47:09 | TurboBee | i recall seeing three of them in apache last |
| 04:47:20 | TurboBee | i was told to try looking at ibot |
| 04:47:27 | TurboBee | but he doesnt resemble them at all :/ |
| 04:47:37 | TurboBee | this was a while back though |
| 04:47:40 | sorphin | there's blootbot too.. |
| 04:47:42 | TurboBee | i just wanted to see how the author was doing |
| 04:47:57 | sorphin | and infobot |
| 04:48:27 | TurboBee | nah, they were more like real names, and had me confused half the time on whether or not they were human or bots |
| 04:49:02 | sorphin | umm |
| 04:49:12 | sorphin | the 2 i just mentioned are code bases |
| 04:49:12 | TurboBee | sounds wierd, i know :P |
| 04:49:17 | sorphin | you didn't say which you meant :P |
| 04:49:18 | TurboBee | oh |
| 04:49:28 | TurboBee | i thought you were listing off more nicknames |
| 04:49:29 | TurboBee | hehe |
| 04:49:32 | sorphin | no |
| 04:50:08 | TurboBee | remembering isnt my key point, but i think the bots hated infobot |
| 04:50:09 | TurboBee | lol |
| 04:50:18 | sorphin | nod.. |
| 04:50:18 | TurboBee | they hated a certain codebase |
| 04:50:29 | TurboBee | do you have the url for blootbot |
| 04:50:56 | sorphin | hold. |
| 04:51:11 | sorphin | blootbot.sourceforge.net/ |
| 04:51:16 | TurboBee | ah |
| 04:51:26 | sorphin | google is your friend ;) |
| 04:52:09 | sorphin | fyi |
| 04:52:14 | sorphin | apt in #debian |
| 04:52:17 | sorphin | is a blootbot |
| 04:52:51 | TurboBee | ah |
| 04:53:25 | TurboBee | that saves me some trouble |
| 04:53:34 | TurboBee | i know for a fact apt isnt it |
| 04:53:38 | TurboBee | not smart enough :) |
| 04:54:54 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:55:12 | sorphin | well, don't look at the ircops ;) if it's lilo or mysticone they're not very smart either ;) |
| 04:55:26 | TurboBee | lol |
| 04:55:36 | TurboBee | this is pretty cool, is this an ipv6 host? |
| 04:55:37 | TurboBee | 3ffe:b80:9ce:1:0:0:0:1 |
| 04:55:41 | sorphin | yes |
| 04:55:55 | sorphin | you can get to "freenode" via either.. |
| 04:56:05 | TurboBee | ah |
| 04:56:29 | sorphin | there are a few various free tunnel brokers |
| 04:56:41 | sorphin | is using 2 of them.. (tho not on here via it) |
| 04:56:45 | TurboBee | i signed up for a ipv6 host at one time, i never got it working right under windows, when i installed linux it was included :) |
| 04:56:56 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:57:13 | TurboBee | is everything going to turn over to ipv6 eventually? |
| 04:57:19 | sorphin | yup |
| 04:57:28 | sorphin | tons more addr space |
| 04:57:34 | sorphin | easier configuration |
| 04:57:44 | sorphin | let's just say |
| 04:58:13 | sorphin | you could have an IP for everything in your house, 100000000 fold and then some |
| 04:58:30 | TurboBee | wow :) |
| 04:58:38 | sorphin | it's like |
| 04:58:40 | sorphin | 2^256 |
| 04:58:57 | TurboBee | will those resolve to hostnames? or do they already? I'm still really new to the concept |
| 04:59:01 | sorphin | if i remember right |
| 04:59:04 | sorphin | umm |
| 04:59:14 | sorphin | they will if you provide DNS/have DNS done for you :P |
| 04:59:22 | TurboBee | ah |
| 04:59:35 | sorphin | just like ipv4 |
| 04:59:52 | sorphin | morn is on via ipv6 via freenet6 |
| 05:00:11 | sorphin | monmotha's been on via it for a while |
| 05:00:38 | TurboBee | even though i installed the ipv6 protocol on a windows box, i still need a client that supports it, correct? I just cant go over to mirc and say connect on this |
| 05:00:46 | sorphin | no clue |
| 05:00:55 | sorphin | doesn't use windows nor mirc *shiver* |
| 05:01:01 | TurboBee | hehe |
| 05:01:05 | sorphin | atleast use xchat or the windows version of BX :P |
| 05:02:03 | TurboBee | i enjoy using linux, but i cant get over mirc, mirc is a well organized irc client if you like gui anyways. console irc clients are cool, but i never get around to msgs |
| 05:02:11 | sorphin | umm |
| 05:02:15 | sorphin | xchat is a gui |
| 05:02:19 | TurboBee | i know |
| 05:02:46 | TurboBee | xchat just doesnt seem to have what mirc does |
| 05:03:11 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:03:20 | TurboBee | shouldnt be arguing about this kind of thing on openprojects anyways ;) |
| 05:03:26 | sorphin | sees everything/gets everything just fine w/ BX |
| 05:03:34 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:03:56 | TurboBee | my personal favorite console irc client though, is IRCII |
| 05:04:00 | TurboBee | i think thats it |
| 05:04:04 | TurboBee | i cant even remember now |
| 05:04:11 | TurboBee | no thats not it |
| 05:04:21 | TurboBee | arhg i forgot what it was :/ |
| 05:04:59 | TurboBee | its like bx anyways :p |
| 05:05:06 | TurboBee | just a tad different |
| 05:05:31 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:05:39 | TurboBee | well im out of here, nice talking to ya |
| 05:05:58 | sorphin | cya |
| 07:35:42 | sorphin | Nermal_Work: you sun drone you ;) |
| 08:46:57 | Nermal_Work | :P |
| 08:53:07 | dando | hi |
| 08:54:25 | dando | whats a tuxscreen? |
| 08:55:22 | devnull_ | hi |
| 12:39:48 | prpplague | morning sjhill |
| 12:40:22 | prpplague | sjhill: hmm, guess i startled you! |
| 12:40:35 | sjhill | prpplague: nah, xchat crashed on me |
| 12:40:47 | prpplague | sjhill: oh ya? |
| 12:41:02 | sjhill | prpplague: i run debian unstable...it happens :) |
| 12:41:02 | prpplague | sjhill: hey do you use xchat with multiple servers? |
| 12:41:11 | sjhill | prpplague: yes |
| 12:41:38 | prpplague | sjhill: is there a way to open multiple servers without having to open each one individualy? |
| 12:42:32 | sjhill | prpplague: do you use autoconnect? |
| 12:43:10 | prpplague | sjhill: no i usually open two server windows and then connect to the server in each window |
| 12:44:12 | sjhill | prpplague: use autoconnect...go to your 'Server List' and select each server and there is a check box for 'Autoconnect'...that way everytime you start xchat you'll connect to the different servers automatically |
| 12:45:15 | prpplague | sjhill: ahh, i figured there was an easy way, sometimes gui stuff can be so contra-command mentality |
| 12:49:52 | sjhill | prpplague: ok, i'm pretty sure i'm here to stay...so what did you say after i told you to use 'autoconnect'? |
| 12:50:57 | prpplague | sjhill: ahh, i figured there was an easy way, sometimes gui stuff can be so contra-command mentality |
| 12:51:27 | sjhill | *nod* |
| 13:02:13 | scanline | is away: Spam, spam, spam, scrambled eggs, and spam |
| 13:21:53 | scanline | is back (gone 00:19:41) |
| 14:06:47 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 15:50:08) |
| 14:06:56 | sorphin | no you're not |
| 14:14:26 | CosmicPenguin | yes |
| 14:15:14 | sorphin | maybe |
| 14:25:45 | prpplague | sorphin: ppl at century at never there anyway, lol |
| 14:25:51 | prpplague | s/at/are |
| 14:26:10 | sorphin | true |
| 14:26:16 | sorphin | not mentally anyways ;) |
| 14:26:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, any future plans for "tinyterm ti calculator edition" ? |
| 14:27:20 | sorphin | prpplague: you're not serious |
| 14:31:39 | scanline | wonders what Censoft has been up to lately |
| 14:31:48 | prpplague | sorphin: no |
| 14:31:58 | sorphin | whew |
| 14:32:16 | prpplague | sorphin: i really want dillo for the TI, lol |
| 14:32:36 | sorphin | prpplague: am i gonna have to call you file again? |
| 14:32:47 | scanline | oh no |
| 14:32:49 | prpplague | sorphin: hey now.... |
| 14:33:17 | sorphin | alright then |
| 14:34:00 | sjhill | who works for CenSoft? |
| 14:34:15 | prpplague | sjhill: CosmicPenguin and signal11 |
| 14:34:18 | sorphin | cosmicpenguin |
| 14:34:20 | sorphin | yup |
| 14:34:21 | sjhill | ah |
| 14:34:39 | sorphin | so as you can see |
| 14:34:42 | sorphin | they'll hire anyone ;) |
| 14:34:46 | scanline | haha |
| 14:34:47 | sjhill | lol |
| 14:34:52 | prpplague | sjhill: let me tell ya, there is a ton of the embedded dev group that hang here |
| 14:35:01 | sjhill | prpplague: seems that way |
| 14:35:11 | scanline | #tuxscreen attracts fruits like prpplague ;) |
| 14:35:21 | sorphin | and scanline |
| 14:35:25 | scanline | nods |
| 14:35:26 | sjhill | just as long as you all realize my kung code fu is the best...mwuhahaha |
| 14:35:32 | sjhill | just kidding |
| 14:35:39 | prpplague | scanline: ha, your not kidding! |
| 14:35:44 | sorphin | and broadcom lusers like sjhill ;) |
| 14:36:02 | scanline | steps into a police call box and emerges wearing his code-fu robe and C blackbelt |
| 14:36:04 | sorphin | and tivo hacking lusers like me ;p |
| 14:36:18 | prpplague | scanline: probably more accurate is "embedded dev wannabies like prpplague" |
| 14:36:25 | scanline | haha |
| 14:36:26 | sjhill | summons file for "annoyance spell" on sorphin |
| 14:36:36 | sorphin | smirks |
| 14:36:42 | prpplague | ROTFL |
| 14:36:50 | | sorphin: huh? |
| 14:36:50 | sorphin | ibot: tell sjhill |
| 14:36:53 | sorphin | bah |
| 14:37:08 | | sorphin is nothing but a loggerheaded puddle of mammering dung. |
| 14:37:08 | sjhill | ibot: insult sorphin |
| 14:37:12 | | sorphin: excuse me? |
| 14:37:12 | sorphin | ibot: tell prplague |
| 14:37:14 | sjhill | no we're cookin' |
| 14:37:16 | sorphin | wtf |
| 14:37:18 | sjhill | s/no/now |
| 14:37:28 | | rumour has it die is DADO, DADO, DADO |
| 14:37:28 | sorphin | ibot: die |
| 14:37:34 | sjhill | lol |
| 14:38:05 | | File type identification utility. URL: ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/file/ or mailto:joshnet@staticky.com |
| 14:38:05 | scanline | ibot: file? |
| 14:38:10 | | ...but sjhill is mailto:sjhill@realitydiluted.com... |
| 14:38:10 | sorphin | ibot: sjhill is <reply> some luser that works at broadcom on linux stuff. |
| 14:38:11 | scanline | hmm... |
| 14:38:15 | | you are at mailto:micah@navi.picogui.org or the original author of PicoGUI or mailto:micahjd@users.sourceforge.net |
| 14:38:15 | scanline | ibot: scanline? |
| 14:38:17 | | hmmm... prpplague is mailto:dave123@abcsinc.com or Dave Anders |
| 14:38:17 | scanline | ibot: prpplague |
| 14:38:19 | | okay, sorphin. |
| 14:38:19 | sorphin | ibot: sjhill is also <reply> some luser that works at broadcom on linux stuff. |
| 14:38:26 | scanline | ibot isn't very exciting... |
| 14:38:34 | scanline | <PicoBot> hmmm... scanline is one with less memory than a Cybiko or a dingo that needs shaving or the master of whistling to modems or a non-dingo that no longer needs shaving or now clean shaven or obsessed with hot sauce or not one to eat ramens without both water and hot sauce in them or the coiner of the word "biologicality" or shiny on the webcam or deaf or nobody's bitch or a thesaurus |
| 14:38:36 | sjhill | heh |
| 14:39:02 | scanline | the #picogui folks play with the bot more :) |
| 14:39:10 | sorphin | wonder why |
| 14:39:11 | sjhill | heh |
| 14:39:25 | sorphin | less risk of going blind? ;p |
| 14:39:29 | scanline | I don't know what you're talking about ;) |
| 14:39:50 | sorphin | mmhmm |
| 14:40:07 | | okay, sorphin. |
| 14:40:07 | sorphin | ibot: scanline is also <reply> a tosser. |
| 14:40:09 | scanline | tries to figure out how to run Modula-3 programs under linux |
| 14:41:44 | sorphin | nah, you don't wanna do that.. |
| 14:43:38 | | scanline is at mailto:micah@navi.picogui.org or the original author of PicoGUI or mailto:micahjd@users.sourceforge.net or <reply> a tosser. |
| 14:43:38 | Nermal_Work | ibot: scanline? |
| 14:43:49 | Nermal_Work | hmm |
| 14:43:52 | sorphin | ok, i fudged that up :P |
| 14:43:52 | | nermal_work: i don't know |
| 14:43:52 | Nermal_Work | ibot nermal? |
| 14:43:53 | sjhill | sweet, only 8 more hours for my powerpuff girls t-shirt auction |
| 14:44:05 | sorphin | sjhill: shouldn't have said that |
| 14:44:13 | | OK, scanline |
| 14:44:13 | scanline | ibot: scanline =~ s/or <reply> a tosser.// |
| 14:44:15 | | you are, like, at mailto:micah@navi.picogui.org or the original author of PicoGUI or mailto:micahjd@users.sourceforge.net |
| 14:44:15 | scanline | ibot: scanline? |
| 14:45:01 | | okay, sorphin. |
| 14:45:01 | sorphin | ibot: scanline is also THE PicoGUI luser extraordinaire. |
| 14:45:03 | sorphin | :P |
| 14:45:11 | scanline | hehe |
| 14:45:29 | sorphin | better? |
| 14:45:36 | scanline | sure.... |
| 14:45:41 | sorphin | Nermal_Work: just bought more of your hardware :P |
| 14:46:06 | Nermal_Work | :D |
| 14:46:11 | Nermal_Work | watcha get? |
| 14:46:15 | sorphin | U30 |
| 14:46:22 | Nermal_Work | they still make those ? |
| 14:46:33 | sorphin | no, but still supported |
| 14:46:36 | Nermal_Work | ah |
| 14:46:51 | sorphin | ironic |
| 14:46:56 | sorphin | that what i'll need to use it |
| 14:46:59 | sorphin | is what mewp has |
| 15:58:22 | sorphin | allo busybiotch |
| 16:01:54 | andersee | morning |
| 16:03:24 | sorphin | nah, for you, it's evening ;) |
| 16:28:41 | CosmicPenguin | Its dark enough outside to be evening |
| 16:29:01 | sorphin | here too |
| 18:27:54 | sorphin | re erik |
| 18:28:15 | sorphin | almost forgot he still owers you an SH env |
| 18:31:51 | mace | Russ: you about? |
| 18:49:07 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 18:50:50 | mace | Russ|werk: i'm packaging up udhcp for the ipaq, wondered if you had any requests |
| 18:51:06 | Russ|werk | just be sure to use whats in cvs |
| 18:51:28 | Russ|werk | and if you come up with nifty scripts, send them along |
| 18:51:41 | Russ|werk | and same question to you, any requests? |
| 18:51:43 | mace | i was going to stick with 0.9.7, you think i should use the cvs version? |
| 18:52:19 | Russ|werk | ya, makes it simplier to talk to it with signals |
| 18:52:31 | mace | ok |
| 18:52:32 | Russ|werk | also, is more compatible with the pcmcia scripts |
| 18:53:13 | mace | um, requests.. not really, although if you want to add anything to make it quicker to package up, i won't complain :) |
| 18:53:56 | Russ|werk | oh, I forgot to mention all the server fixes in cvs |
| 18:54:12 | Russ|werk | its all in the changelog anyway |
| 18:55:40 | mace | i'm doing 3 packages, one for the client, one for the server, and one for the docs - do you have any requirements in terms of documents that should be distributed in the client/server packages, eg. the 'COPYING' file? |
| 18:56:46 | Russ|werk | include the COPYING file with the docs |
| 18:56:50 | Russ|werk | ls |
| 18:56:50 | Russ|werk | er |
| 18:56:52 | Russ|werk | wrong window |
| 18:56:54 | mace | :) |
| 18:57:00 | Russ|werk | actually, since its just the GPL |
| 18:57:01 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:57:21 | Russ|werk | you can make a dummy COPYING file that references the GPL, and include that with the binaries |
| 18:57:43 | Russ|werk | (include a link of where to get the GPL) |
| 18:58:55 | sorphin | wonders if anyone ever reads that file :P |
| 18:59:22 | mace | well, for now, i'll just stick the file in as is |
| 18:59:35 | LIM | would've made more sense to call it LICENSE |
| 18:59:37 | mace | familiar doesn't appear to have a licences directory |
| 18:59:38 | Russ|werk | its kinda big |
| 19:00:33 | mace | jffs2 should compress it pretty well - anyhow, the only person that's asked me about it is BZFlag, so i don't think there are many users - or maybe there are just no bugs :) |
| 19:01:06 | Russ|werk | there are always more bugs |
| 19:01:22 | Russ|werk | they just get more and more unique |
| 19:01:33 | mace | i guess |
| 19:01:39 | Russ|werk | like the not computing checksums of odd sized packets correctly on big endian hosts... |
| 19:02:28 | Russ|werk | does the ipaq keep time? |
| 19:03:25 | mace | not afair |
| 19:03:33 | mace | uses ntpdate |
| 19:03:54 | Russ|werk | k, because the server has an option to store leases with an absolute time, or a remaining time |
| 19:04:25 | Russ|werk | also, if you are doing rcS scripts, you might want to signal udhcpd to write a lease file before killing it |
| 19:04:41 | file | perks up |
| 19:04:58 | mace | isn't doing anything fancy for this version |
| 19:05:02 | sorphin | permanently puts file to sleep |
| 19:06:11 | Russ|werk | hmm...I think I need to do to the udhcpd signal handling what I did to the udhcpc signal handling |
| 19:06:25 | file | untars the Linux kernel |
| 19:06:38 | Russ|werk | (SIGUSR1 followed by SIGTERM can cause it to quit in the middle of writing leases, need to fix that) |
| 19:06:57 | LIM | no sigaction mask? |
| 19:09:03 | Russ|werk | no, in the SIGUSR1 handler, I call the function to write out the leases file |
| 19:09:14 | Russ|werk | in the SIGTERM handler, I call the exit() |
| 19:09:48 | LIM | you aren't using sigaction then...eh? |
| 19:09:59 | Russ|werk | no, just signal |
| 19:10:04 | LIM | ah |
| 19:10:31 | Russ|werk | I changed the client to process any received signals when it falls out of select, I just need to change the server to do the same |
| 19:10:50 | LIM | hmm, sounds simple |
| 19:11:15 | Russ|werk | ya, you just set a global, and when you get EINTR, you process the globals in a sensible manner |
| 19:11:20 | LIM | simpler than sigaction at least ;) |
| 19:11:23 | LIM | yeah |
| 19:16:46 | Russ|werk | er, wait |
| 19:16:59 | Russ|werk | I could get a signal when code is running |
| 19:17:12 | Russ|werk | and then I wouldn't get it during select, and could sleep for a long time... |
| 19:17:15 | BZFlag | Russ|werk: could you use the TuxScreen version of the script instead of the multiple scripts in CVS for udhcpc? |
| 19:17:23 | BZFlag | I pointed mace at that version. |
| 19:17:28 | Russ|werk | he can, ya |
| 19:17:52 | BZFlag | I meant adding that version to the cvs tree. after all they are just samples anyway right? ;-) |
| 19:18:06 | Russ|werk | ya, I can do that |
| 19:18:19 | BZFlag | cool. |
| 19:19:33 | LIM | argh, me TE-10016R still refuses to acknowledge a link to anything |
| 19:19:38 | LIM | no net :/ |
| 19:20:18 | LIM | this sux |
| 19:20:30 | file | hit it with a stick |
| 19:20:48 | Russ|werk | I think I need to switch to pselect |
| 19:21:28 | Russ|werk | hmm... |
| 19:21:32 | Russ|werk | I don't like the man page though |
| 19:21:42 | Russ|werk | says that the race would just move to glibc |
| 19:21:59 | LIM | file: have done... |
| 19:22:13 | file | :( |
| 19:22:14 | | ACTION thwaps file w/ a large trout. |
| 19:22:14 | sorphin | ibot: thwap file |
| 19:22:19 | file | feels thwapped |
| 19:22:26 | | LIM: huh? |
| 19:22:26 | LIM | ibot: fix this damn thing! |
| 19:22:30 | sorphin | hehe |
| 19:22:35 | LIM | ibot is no fun with me. |
| 19:22:44 | sorphin | you're not awake enough ;) |
| 19:22:55 | LIM | I dunno ibot, that's all |
| 19:23:06 | LIM | I'm plenty awake 8-D |
| 19:26:05 | sorphin | wish i wasn't |
| 19:26:50 | Russ|werk | hits his head against the wall a few times |
| 19:27:19 | sorphin | helps |
| 19:28:00 | Russ|werk | gee, thanks |
| 19:28:25 | sorphin | ;-) |
| 19:29:59 | LIM | tries the card in his laptop, even though the laptop is broken... |
| 19:30:23 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:30:30 | sorphin | thinking 2 brokes will make a working? |
| 19:30:49 | LIM | well, it's just freaking out on memory problems |
| 19:30:57 | LIM | the pcmcia card slot should work |
| 19:31:21 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:31:53 | LIM | if I can find the power thinger |
| 19:32:17 | LIM | ahha |
| 20:10:24 | MonMotha | btw, if anyone has a spare Tux that they no longer want, I've got a buyer that's willing to pay $110 for it (which should be more than you paid) |
| 20:10:48 | file | MonMotha: 'fraid not |
| 20:10:52 | file | has none |
| 20:11:08 | MonMotha | well, I know some people bought two or even four, and they might not want them all now |
| 20:12:03 | sorphin | never buys more than what he intends to mod |
| 20:12:35 | file | LIM: I resorted back to using the first program I tried... for PPPoE |
| 20:12:57 | sorphin | feels sorry for file |
| 20:13:17 | file | sorphin: my linux box will soon be here... |
| 20:13:26 | sorphin | not how i mean |
| 20:13:35 | sorphin | has dsl and doesn't use PPPoE or PPPoA |
| 20:13:43 | file | let me guess - PPTP |
| 20:13:46 | sorphin | nope |
| 20:13:49 | file | oh? |
| 20:13:55 | sorphin | has his own IP block |
| 20:13:58 | file | oh ic |
| 20:14:04 | sorphin | so they just route it down my pipe |
| 20:14:06 | sorphin | no auth |
| 20:14:39 | file | anywho - I've got annoying PPPoE... |
| 20:14:48 | file | where the speed of your connection depends on your software! |
| 20:15:31 | LIM | file: oh? i dunno! |
| 20:15:38 | sorphin | hehe |
| 20:15:55 | file | LIM: it's just temporary... |
| 20:16:08 | file | I hope |
| 20:16:37 | LIM | HA, this 100' eth cable is bad. |
| 20:16:52 | LIM | returns it to the store. |
| 20:17:06 | sorphin | never has that prob |
| 20:17:09 | LIM | it even has a scotch tape splice on it or something. |
| 20:17:10 | sorphin | makes his own |
| 20:17:22 | LIM | sorphin: I can do that too. |
| 20:17:29 | sorphin | then do it ;p |
| 20:17:37 | LIM | I try to do it only when going through walls. |
| 20:17:43 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:18:01 | LIM | I'm no genious at it ;) |
| 20:18:13 | sorphin | don't need to be |
| 20:18:21 | sorphin | only have to remember 1 2 3 & 6 :P |
| 20:18:26 | LIM | well, last time I had to redo it like 3 times. |
| 20:18:51 | sorphin | and for xover |
| 20:18:58 | sorphin | 1&3 and 2&6 swap |
| 20:19:02 | sorphin | simple as pie |
| 20:19:17 | LIM | I dunno what that all means anymore |
| 20:19:20 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:19:21 | LIM | I look it up and do it. |
| 20:19:26 | sorphin | grins |
| 20:19:27 | LIM | only when needed ;) |
| 20:19:29 | sorphin | it's easy :P |
| 20:19:32 | LIM | yea yea |
| 20:19:32 | file | it's where you put the wires into the plug thingy |
| 20:19:52 | file | tried doing a wall mount once... it failed |
| 20:19:59 | file | a plug was ok though |
| 20:20:03 | sorphin | beats file over the head w/ a PPPoE daemon |
| 20:20:05 | file | plug... cable |
| 20:20:17 | file | sorphin: hey - I'll need that! |
| 20:20:29 | LIM | SPIDER! Ugnnnnh |
| 20:20:50 | sorphin | die |
| 20:20:51 | sorphin | die |
| 20:20:51 | sorphin | die |
| 20:20:52 | sorphin | die |
| 20:21:00 | file | I wonder if I go for a walk... how far my range will go |
| 20:21:00 | file | wonders |
| 20:21:12 | sorphin | watches file cut off |
| 20:21:18 | LIM | depends how far you get until death catches up |
| 20:21:59 | file | I should do my homework... then maybe code |
| 20:22:24 | sorphin | ahh.. the wonders of HS :P |
| 20:29:42 | MonMotha | hum...what's the proper order to connect cables in when jumping a car? (yes I know this is horribly offtopic :) |
| 20:29:47 | MonMotha | pos pos neg neg or? |
| 20:30:17 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:30:21 | sjhill | MonMotha: no, always connect the grounds first |
| 20:30:26 | sorphin | dead car 1st |
| 20:30:45 | sjhill | hmmm, jumper cables, car battery, whipped cream.... |
| 20:30:57 | MonMotha | sjhill: hum...I seem to recall that's not that the "book" said |
| 20:31:07 | MonMotha | that's what I thought too, but book said otherwise |
| 20:31:14 | sorphin | MonMotha: heh |
| 20:31:39 | MonMotha | hum, are there any general purpose OSes that have i960 ports? |
| 20:35:22 | CosmicPenguin | The penguin doesn't have a i960 port? |
| 20:35:48 | CosmicPenguin | smells a project |
| 20:35:49 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: I don't even know that NetBSD does... |
| 20:36:37 | MonMotha | I'd think the 960 would lack some stuff that linux likes |
| 20:36:56 | MonMotha | not exactly a very feature oriented arch |
| 20:37:51 | CosmicPenguin | its your standard 32 bit risc processor |
| 20:39:02 | file | mutters something about his LCD shutting itself off |
| 20:39:07 | file | stupid... son of a... macaroni and cheese! |
| 20:39:32 | sorphin | haha |
| 20:40:13 | file | did it again |
| 20:40:45 | sorphin | you killed kenny? |
| 20:40:58 | file | you bastard! |
| 20:48:13 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 20:48:33 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 20:57:54 | LIM|Away | aw yeah, now it works. |
| 21:42:26 | prpplague | anyone want to see prpplague's head explode with frustration at dealing with end lusers of SCO openserver? |
| 21:44:07 | LIM | yes |
| 21:44:17 | LIM | wants some entertainment |
| 21:45:53 | file | is having some frustration as well |
| 21:46:05 | file | apparently our phone bill is... $402.50 this month |
| 21:47:06 | prpplague | sways wildly and head explodes |
| 21:47:48 | prpplague | "ok ma'am type in `cd /` and press enter" |
| 21:48:01 | file | lol |
| 21:48:03 | prpplague | "how do you spell ceeedeee" |
| 21:49:29 | LIM | lol |
| 21:49:43 | LIM | "compact disc" |
| 21:50:04 | file | lol |
| 21:50:29 | LIM | back tick though? |
| 21:50:40 | LIM | explodes! |
| 21:51:10 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: i960s lack MMUs, which linux doesn't like IIRC |
| 21:51:22 | LIM | now there's pudding everywhere! |
| 21:51:30 | file | mmm... pudding |
| 21:51:33 | LIM | mmm |
| 21:51:59 | Barbicane | hello |
| 21:55:56 | prpplague | MonMotha: no mmu is for uClinux |
| 21:57:04 | MonMotha | prpplague: yeah...though I dunno if I have the Sk1lLZ needed to do a full port (I don't) |
| 21:57:27 | MonMotha | I'm reading through the netbsd dev list (belive it or not, it does NOT run NetBSD :) |
| 21:57:45 | prpplague | MonMotha: hey, nothing better than an unported system for learning |
| 21:57:45 | MonMotha | seems that my 80960KB may well have an MMU, just disabled |
| 21:57:59 | MonMotha | prpplague: yes, this is a long term project...make a dev board, port some semi-major OS to it |
| 21:58:48 | prpplague | MonMotha: strickly as a learning process or for biz? |
| 21:59:10 | MonMotha | strictly for learning |
| 21:59:35 | MonMotha | looks to me like the 960 isn't exactly headed anywhere, so it wouldn't really make sense for biz |
| 22:00:49 | prpplague | MonMotha: how much are you wanting to spend for a dev board for educational purposes? |
| 22:01:59 | prpplague | doh |
| 22:02:05 | prpplague | hate it when do that |
| 22:02:13 | MonMotha | prpplague: I'm wanting to BUILD the board from pieces parts (so price of pieces plus making the board, which will hurt in terms of $$$) |
| 22:02:25 | MonMotha | this is a "maybe I'll have it done some years from now) |
| 22:02:31 | prpplague | cpu and all? |
| 22:02:57 | prpplague | MonMotha: the reason i ask, is i'm also on the same mission |
| 22:03:10 | MonMotha | really, for an i960? |
| 22:03:17 | prpplague | MonMotha: however i'm making a strongarm core board |
| 22:03:18 | MonMotha | obviously I dont' want to build the CPU from scratch :) |
| 22:03:24 | MonMotha | hum, I've got to many ARMs |
| 22:03:30 | prpplague | lol |
| 22:03:40 | LIM | I have 3 |
| 22:03:49 | prpplague | LIM: mutant! |
| 22:03:54 | LIM | one is detached. |
| 22:04:17 | LIM | you got something against mutants! |
| 22:04:34 | MonMotha | heh, I've got two ARM based "computers" and my two arms |
| 22:04:35 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: the i960 doesn't have a MMU? |
| 22:04:35 | prpplague | Long Island Mutant |
| 22:04:37 | CosmicPenguin | Are you sure? |
| 22:04:40 | LIM | uses his nova beam on prpplague |
| 22:04:54 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: considering there's multiple threads on netbsd-ports list regarding that fact, I'd say so |
| 22:05:24 | MonMotha | though I got some mixed messages, some saying that the 80960KB that I have may indeed have an MMU, just disabled |
| 22:06:43 | file | finishes his homework |
| 22:08:24 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: I used to use it at my old company, and we never acted like it didn't have an mmu |
| 22:08:29 | CosmicPenguin | We ran a full RTOS on it |
| 22:08:37 | prpplague | MonMotha: well, if you get something going, i'd be interested in contributing |
| 22:09:14 | prpplague | MonMotha: IIRC the digi portservers use the i960, i expect they would be a nice test bed |
| 22:09:31 | prpplague | kergoth: is that right? |
| 22:09:37 | MonMotha | prpplague: well, knowing absolutely nothing about this stuff (I'm a student at the time, and will be for a while yet), it might take a while |
| 22:09:46 | MonMotha | you got any good resources on design for these thigns? |
| 22:09:52 | prpplague | MonMotha: join the crowd |
| 22:10:00 | MonMotha | heh |
| 22:10:22 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: hum...resounding consensus on netbsd-ports was no MMU except on the Cx series, which was an ugly hack |
| 22:10:42 | prpplague | MonMotha: i've been working on learning small linux systems for 4 years now |
| 22:11:16 | prpplague | heads home |
| 22:11:18 | prpplague | bbl |
| 22:17:26 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: hmm.... The Intel website supports that claim |
| 22:17:41 | CosmicPenguin | it says that the Cx has a guarded MMU, whatever that means |
| 22:17:57 | CosmicPenguin | So uclinux is your friend, I guess |
| 22:18:15 | file | guarded... protected |
| 22:18:21 | file | that sucks |
| 22:19:14 | CosmicPenguin | Oops, sorry... that was the Hx |
| 22:19:23 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.intel.com/design/i960/superscalar.htm |
| 22:20:32 | CosmicPenguin | anyway, its not something I'm worried about right at this moment |
| 22:20:33 | CosmicPenguin | bye |
| 22:20:35 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
| 22:21:46 | MonMotha | well, the software is a ways off |
| 22:21:49 | MonMotha | gotta get it built first |