| 03:29:52 | scanline | thinks everybody should join #wopn and listen to the open source radio broadcast, it's nifty! |
| 03:34:24 | sorphin | fuck no |
| 03:34:47 | sorphin | thinks lilo and mysticone should drop off the net :P |
| 03:36:08 | MonMotha | OPN went from being tolerable to a steaming pile of shit |
| 03:36:34 | MonMotha | I really wish #handhelds.org and this chan would move somewhere else so that I wouldn't have to patronize it |
| 03:36:52 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:36:59 | sorphin | oftc |
| 03:37:00 | MonMotha | like EFNet :) |
| 03:37:03 | sorphin | um |
| 03:37:04 | sorphin | no |
| 03:37:05 | MonMotha | or OFTC I guess... :) |
| 03:37:12 | sorphin | efnet blows just as bad |
| 03:37:13 | MonMotha | why does everyone hate EFNet? |
| 03:37:20 | sorphin | if you're gonna move somewhere stupid |
| 03:37:27 | MonMotha | sorphin: no it doesn't...the admins aren't constantly begging for people to do thigns |
| 03:37:27 | sorphin | might as well do undernet ;p |
| 03:37:49 | MonMotha | it's not like I'm asking you to move to DALNet :) |
| 03:37:55 | sorphin | right.. that's why you just had to ask |
| 03:37:57 | sorphin | <MonMotha> why does everyone hate EFNet? |
| 03:38:35 | sorphin | well, one negative for me |
| 03:38:42 | sorphin | any irc network that *requires* identd |
| 03:38:47 | sorphin | i'm not using |
| 03:39:26 | MonMotha | most EFNet servers don't require ident anymore |
| 03:39:41 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:39:45 | sorphin | last i checked they did.. |
| 03:40:10 | MonMotha | I know mpls doesn't and I don't think qeast does |
| 03:40:22 | MonMotha | many of the european ones don't either |
| 03:40:44 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:41:11 | sorphin | well, our channels are over on oftc if we ever perm move there.. what's funny is kernelnewbies supposedly moved, but yet they're still here.. |
| 03:41:13 | MonMotha | apparently lightning still does though |
| 03:42:30 | sorphin | nod.. |
| 04:12:07 | sorphin | allo busyboy |
| 04:12:15 | andersee | evening |
| 04:12:43 | andersee | Anything interesting happening? |
| 04:13:23 | sorphin | just got back from holiday tonight |
| 04:19:24 | andersee | Anywhere fun? |
| 04:20:13 | sorphin | vegas (bah) and bay area (more fun than vegas was) |
| 04:23:51 | andersee | hmm. |
| 04:23:59 | andersee | Lost money? |
| 04:24:04 | andersee | ;-) |
| 04:27:06 | sorphin | something like that |
| 04:28:32 | andersee | I've been to vegas a few times, but never for more than a few hours |
| 04:29:43 | andersee | I tried the slot machines in the airport once, and won $10... |
| 04:30:14 | andersee | Not really my kindof thing though. |
| 04:31:35 | sorphin | let's say.. i'm $850 poorer :P |
| 04:31:41 | andersee | ouch |
| 04:32:04 | andersee | Hope that was mostly for hotel and nice shows... |
| 04:32:07 | sorphin | doesn't feel like going into detail :P |
| 04:32:11 | sorphin | ha |
| 04:32:26 | sorphin | $40 was me being scammed for sigfried and roy |
| 04:32:41 | sorphin | btw, O and Mystere are sold out till Oct |
| 04:33:03 | andersee | "O and Mystere"? |
| 04:34:14 | sorphin | Cirque du Soleil |
| 10:37:48 | scanline | is away: standing in the wet room |
| 10:42:45 | LIM | hmm |
| 10:50:55 | cemri | slm kanal |
| 10:51:04 | cemri | türk varmı |
| 10:51:17 | LIM | english maybe? |
| 10:52:18 | cemri | hi turk |
| 10:54:14 | LIM | who is turk? |
| 11:28:37 | cemri | len bi türk yokmu koca kanalda |
| 11:32:21 | cemri | all of yua gwarf |
| 11:34:26 | LIM | binga bonga boo |
| 11:36:30 | LIM | hmm, turkish |
| 11:37:34 | LIM | I understand now who is turkish :) |
| 12:20:34 | scanline | is away: fun |
| 12:20:57 | file | LIM? |
| 12:22:42 | file | pokes LIM a bit |
| 12:25:29 | prpplague | morning all |
| 12:27:17 | LIM | boo |
| 12:27:37 | LIM | pokes file back, in the eye |
| 12:28:12 | prpplague | isn't the term LIM a nasa term that is in relation to the apollo missions? |
| 12:28:28 | file | args |
| 12:28:36 | LIM | LEM |
| 12:28:37 | file | LIM: Continue instructions regarding routing subnets together |
| 12:29:04 | LIM | ok, but I don't know what else to say |
| 12:29:19 | LIM | avoid the 10.0.0.0 network if you use dhcp from your isp. |
| 12:29:27 | file | already done |
| 12:30:02 | LIM | also make sure the dhcp request goes out the right interface, if not both... |
| 12:30:12 | file | ...my ISP doesn't use DHCP |
| 12:30:17 | LIM | ok |
| 12:30:25 | file | uses a private API... and the IP is allocated fine |
| 12:30:31 | LIM | ok |
| 12:30:37 | LIM | so now what is broken |
| 12:30:38 | file | and given to the right interface |
| 12:31:05 | file | LIM: It connects fine, but Windows tries to use the wireless nic for the internet (I think) |
| 12:31:15 | file | as no DNS requests or pings to the DNS servers go through |
| 12:31:32 | LIM | get a windows console (dos box) |
| 12:31:40 | LIM | run: route print |
| 12:31:54 | file | uh huh |
| 12:32:06 | LIM | pm the output to me |
| 12:32:18 | file | can't unless he types it all out |
| 12:32:28 | file | as I'm not networked to droid, and droid can't be on the net lol |
| 12:32:40 | LIM | ohh |
| 12:32:44 | LIM | heheh |
| 12:32:48 | LIM | damn |
| 12:32:54 | LIM | floppy disk? |
| 12:33:01 | file | hehe |
| 12:33:06 | file | I can type it all out fast |
| 12:33:12 | file | is upgrading IE at the moment however |
| 12:33:20 | LIM | route print >c:\route.txt |
| 12:33:27 | LIM | route print >a:\route.txt |
| 12:33:31 | LIM | whatever |
| 12:33:37 | file | but I will do that. |
| 12:36:46 | file | brb |
| 12:37:15 | LIM | ok |
| 12:37:26 | prpplague | LIM: ahh, thats right LEM |
| 12:38:08 | LIM | Lunar Excursion Module :) |
| 12:38:33 | LIM | perhaps I am a Lunar Incubation Module |
| 12:39:05 | LIM | but it originally means Long Island Man |
| 12:39:36 | prpplague | LIM: so your are from NY? |
| 12:39:59 | LIM | yes, originally |
| 12:40:37 | LIM | most my family is still in NY |
| 12:40:51 | prpplague | around here most ppl would thing "long island" was a large sandbar on a creek or river, lol |
| 12:40:58 | prpplague | s/thing/think |
| 12:41:44 | LIM | heh, it is a big sandbar, left by a glacier |
| 12:48:22 | file | ok I'm back |
| 12:48:37 | LIM | whee |
| 12:48:44 | prpplague | argh, file is back! everyone run |
| 12:48:51 | file | :p |
| 12:48:54 | file | LIM: ready? |
| 12:49:39 | LIM | of course |
| 12:50:27 | file | mmm |
| 12:50:31 | file | darn it |
| 12:50:36 | file | oh wait I'm still here - good |
| 13:19:28 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 8 hours, 46 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: "O and Mystere"? [Sun Sep 15 05:33:03 2002] |
| 13:19:28 | prpplague | ibot: seen andersee |
| 13:23:12 | LIM | I have to try this |
| 13:23:18 | | ibot was last seen on #bzflag 19 days, 13 hours, 56 minutes and 3 seconds ago, saying: ibot insult ibot [Tue Aug 27 00:27:15 2002] |
| 13:23:18 | LIM | ibot: seen ibot |
| 13:23:42 | LIM | wow, ibot hasn't been on for a long time |
| 13:24:01 | | thanks prpplague :) |
| 13:24:01 | prpplague | ibot: bot snack |
| 13:24:08 | LIM | heheh |
| 13:24:45 | | LIM: huh? |
| 13:24:45 | LIM | ibot: bot smack |
| 13:25:05 | | ACTION commits suicide, leaving a great deal of blood and brains on the wall. Now you clean this up mister! |
| 13:25:05 | prpplague | ibot: shoot yourself |
| 13:25:22 | LIM | such drama |
| 13:25:43 | | scream is, like, an MP3 player front end for madplay, ipkgs are in the feeds, source is at http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/scream/ |
| 13:25:43 | LIM | ibot: scream |
| 13:26:00 | LIM | bah |
| 13:26:06 | | LIM: excuse me? |
| 13:26:06 | LIM | ibot: yell |
| 13:26:25 | LIM | gives up, so as not to arouse the sleeping channel |
| 13:39:32 | | prpplague: excuse me? |
| 13:39:32 | prpplague | ibot: guinnes |
| 13:39:34 | | ibot pours a creamy pint of dark bitter guinness stout |
| 13:39:34 | prpplague | ibot: guinness |
| 13:45:14 | file[arg] | bah |
| 13:58:30 | file[droid] | it worked! |
| 13:59:22 | prpplague | file[droid]: what erasing winblows from your hd? |
| 13:59:30 | file[droid] | nope |
| 13:59:35 | file[droid] | messing with the routing table :p |
| 14:32:56 | file[droid] | wonders if his ADSL Modem is overheating |
| 14:33:29 | LIM | hmm |
| 14:33:50 | LIM | it's all those divx you keep downloading! |
| 14:34:02 | LIM | bits rub and make heat ;) |
| 14:34:04 | file[droid] | LIM: my computers aren't capable of decoding DivX |
| 14:34:54 | file[droid] | I can't seem to browse nicely... |
| 14:35:00 | file[droid] | IE just hangs |
| 14:35:26 | LIM | hmm |
| 14:35:46 | file[droid] | everything else works |
| 14:36:35 | file[droid] | my connection is VERY slow |
| 14:36:45 | LIM | wonder why |
| 14:36:59 | file[droid] | mmm dunno |
| 14:37:11 | LIM | perhaps a crappy proxy? |
| 14:37:22 | LIM | or...oh I dunno at all. |
| 14:37:47 | file[droid] | there is no proxy |
| 14:37:48 | file[droid] | this is local |
| 14:37:51 | LIM | hmm |
| 14:38:01 | LIM | I should've assumed that |
| 14:38:20 | file[droid] | maybe I should switch to protocol driver |
| 14:38:46 | file[droid] | use IP header compression? |
| 14:39:12 | LIM | if your ISP supports it |
| 14:39:15 | file[droid] | mmm |
| 14:39:31 | file[droid] | brb perhaps |
| 14:41:33 | file[droid] | kinda better |
| 14:41:48 | file[droid] | yup - better |
| 14:42:09 | file[droid] | or not... |
| 14:42:12 | file[droid] | DARN IT! |
| 14:42:14 | LIM | hey, dslreports.com (I think) has a speed test tool |
| 14:42:24 | file[droid] | EBay won't even come up |
| 14:42:44 | LIM | http://www.dslreports.com/stest |
| 14:44:42 | file[droid] | I can't even bring up that page |
| 14:45:42 | file[droid] | a tracert looks alright |
| 14:46:36 | file[droid] | well for the love of... |
| 14:46:54 | file[droid] | LIM: I've got a question |
| 14:47:07 | LIM | must be misconfigured broser then... |
| 14:47:23 | file[droid] | what metric should my NIC be? |
| 14:47:35 | LIM | 1 or 0 |
| 14:47:39 | LIM | depending on OS |
| 14:48:26 | file[droid] | it's 2 |
| 14:48:31 | file[droid] | does that metter? |
| 14:48:37 | file[droid] | er matter |
| 14:52:00 | LIM | on which machine? |
| 14:53:10 | LIM | on the gateway, it should be 1 for all routes...afaik |
| 14:58:59 | JoshNet[2] | ermph |
| 14:59:45 | file[thinking] | I think I got it |
| 15:00:36 | file[thinking] | I switched to CAT5e and to persitant connections |
| 15:02:05 | file[thinking] | 76.4kbps :( but that might just be because it's the weekend and everybody's on |
| 15:02:37 | LIM | hmm |
| 15:02:53 | file[thinking] | better than it was! |
| 15:02:59 | LIM | I'm only used to a cable modem spped at the moment...I dunno adsl |
| 15:03:12 | file[thinking] | well I was getting 550kbps lastnight |
| 15:03:30 | file[thinking] | LIM: what about increasing my MTU? |
| 15:03:40 | LIM | http://www.dslreports.com/tweaks |
| 15:03:48 | LIM | if you can browse... |
| 15:03:57 | LIM | you can let it tell you what to tweak |
| 15:04:59 | file[thinking] | I need Java |
| 15:05:03 | file[thinking] | doesn't have it installed |
| 15:05:40 | LIM | hmm |
| 15:06:46 | LIM | I am mega sleepy |
| 15:08:34 | file[thinking] | hrmph |
| 15:08:46 | file[thinking] | it cuts out after so long DAMN IT |
| 15:09:00 | LIM | cuts out? |
| 15:09:42 | LIM | you really need to talk to a winNT4 person who knows networking... |
| 15:09:55 | LIM | I'm good at unix stuff... |
| 15:10:04 | LIM | I can just cut it in winNT4 |
| 15:10:26 | LIM | although you should try win2k or XP sometime... |
| 15:10:31 | LIM | why do you use NT4? |
| 15:45:12 | darkyo | hi |
| 15:46:05 | darkyo | how are u? |
| 15:55:53 | file[droid] | sighs |
| 15:55:59 | file[droid] | no good ADSL software for NT |
| 15:56:31 | file[droid] | bbl |
| 16:43:23 | Russ | poor file has to fix nt? |
| 16:57:30 | file[droid] | there! all done |
| 17:50:07 | file[droid] | hey mallum |
| 17:51:27 | mallum | hey file[droid] |
| 18:16:46 | file | mallum: wazzup? |
| 18:17:14 | file | hi ade|work |
| 18:36:55 | file | hi signal11 |
| 18:38:15 | prpplague | howdy sig |
| 18:38:24 | prpplague | signal11: working at the office today? |
| 18:38:25 | file | looks at his desk |
| 18:38:34 | file | I'm so used to the 56k modem blinking angrily at me... now it's gone |
| 18:39:16 | file | anybody want to set it on fire? |
| 18:39:57 | signal11 | yep, t-1 down |
| 18:40:05 | signal11 | back now though |
| 18:40:21 | prpplague | signal11: life of a sysadmin |
| 18:40:35 | prpplague | signal11: telco problem? |
| 18:42:46 | signal11 | not sure, i just had to turn our router off and back on |
| 18:42:52 | signal11 | that's always scary |
| 18:42:57 | file | wonders... |
| 18:43:36 | prpplague | signal11: ya when i get that kinda stuff its usually the telco jacking with the circuit |
| 18:44:22 | file | prpplague: what's involved with the telco when they setup a line for ADSL? |
| 18:44:34 | file | knows it's something to do with jumpers... but he's wondering how long it takes them |
| 18:45:03 | prpplague | file: i don't know much about dsl on the telco side, i'm more into frame relay and dds circuits |
| 18:45:12 | file | prpplague: oh ic |
| 18:45:48 | prpplague | file: we do battle with the telcos on a daily basis over downed circuits due to telco stupidity |
| 18:46:50 | file | prpplague: that sucks |
| 18:47:16 | prpplague | file: yep and whats sad, most of the time we know more about their equipment than they do |
| 18:47:21 | file | prpplague: I just spent the last 3 days calling my telco to get them to do 3 minute (probably less) to enable ADSL on my line |
| 18:47:31 | file | er to do a 3 minute procedure |
| 18:47:56 | prpplague | file: i thought the candian telco was pretty good about dsl and isdn circuits..... |
| 18:48:07 | file | prpplague: they usually are |
| 18:48:17 | file | prpplague: but the work order got rejected three times before they did it |
| 18:48:45 | prpplague | bummer |
| 18:48:51 | file | aye |
| 18:48:58 | file | and when it was finally up - their software wouldn't work properly |
| 18:49:04 | prpplague | bummer |
| 18:49:09 | file | so I managed to find some temporary software until the TCSX-1 arrives |
| 18:58:00 | ade_ | lo file |
| 18:58:59 | file | waves to ade |
| 19:22:48 | file | hi Russ |
| 19:23:00 | Russ | hey file |
| 19:23:02 | Russ | nt hell, eh? |
| 19:23:38 | file | mmm no all done |
| 19:23:48 | file | my ADSL is setup and running perfectly :) |
| 19:25:32 | sorphin | too bad :P |
| 19:26:12 | file | sorphin: ain't it? :p |
| 19:27:40 | ade | 2 weeks to go :) |
| 19:27:51 | sorphin | yup, least i got to not see you during most of my vacation :P |
| 19:27:59 | file | cheers |
| 20:38:40 | MonMotha | so, what's the current reccomendation for ethernet cards for systems WITHOUT the 5V mod? |
| 20:45:51 | Russ | cdio10t |
| 20:46:12 | Russ | basically any cf card that comes with a cf->pcmcia adapter |
| 20:46:42 | Russ | er |
| 20:46:44 | Russ | cio10t |
| 20:47:31 | Russ | http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/PCMCIA |
| 20:47:56 | Russ | http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=10283128 <- highly recommended aparently |
| 20:48:34 | MonMotha | yeah, that's what I was looking at |
| 20:48:46 | MonMotha | though a CF one would be cool so I could slap it in my iPaq CF sleeve too |
| 20:48:58 | MonMotha | btw, anyone who missed out on their Tux might have a chance to buy a LART soon |
| 20:49:16 | Russ | I have a lot of lart-a-likes |
| 20:49:22 | MonMotha | http://www.lart.tudelft.nl/ <--- mentions that some group is doing a production run, but that they don't need them all so will be selling excess |
| 20:49:46 | MonMotha | just mentioning it for people who mised their opportunity to buy a tux |
| 20:49:49 | Russ | http://russ.dhs.org:8000/nesa_size.jpg |
| 20:50:06 | Russ | I have about 200 of these along with a dual ethernet board in production now |
| 20:50:12 | MonMotha | yeah, that's almost identical to a LART |
| 20:50:18 | MonMotha | 200? jeesj |
| 20:50:18 | Russ | (the dual ethernet board incidentally works with a lart) |
| 20:50:44 | MonMotha | I need to build a sleeve for my iPaq with it's own audio, a PCMCIA slot, and a CF slot |
| 20:50:46 | ade | hope his tux is in the post |
| 20:50:57 | MonMotha | it's physically possible...but I'm not exactly an EE (yet) |
| 20:51:23 | Russ | its expensive to produce one or two of something |
| 20:51:38 | MonMotha | my idea is to make a headset capable SIP speaking over WiFi walkie-talkie kind of thing |
| 20:51:53 | Russ | doesn't the ipaq have its own audio? |
| 20:52:08 | MonMotha | Russ: yes, but 36xx-39xx only has line OUT available, not mic in |
| 20:52:13 | MonMotha | even over the expansion header |
| 20:52:25 | MonMotha | if you want audio input, you haev to use the built in mic |
| 20:52:44 | MonMotha | they fixed that in the upcoming series that's being rumored in various places, but I haev a 3765 |
| 20:52:45 | ade | which is crap |
| 20:52:53 | ade | mic == crap btw |
| 20:52:58 | MonMotha | yes it is |
| 20:53:19 | MonMotha | I've got a rather nice headset, but no mic in, so I want to build a sleeve with one |
| 20:53:36 | MonMotha | the ShanIP looks like it could be modded to support a Mic in fairly easily? |
| 20:54:46 | Russ | yah |
| 20:55:05 | Russ | I don't know whats available on the ipaq header |
| 20:55:14 | MonMotha | the ipaq is becoming more and more useful though...they recently added JTAG to some external conncetor, so you don't have the "crossing fingers" thing quite as much anymore |
| 20:55:30 | MonMotha | Russ: let me find you the docs, just to satisfy curiosity |
| 20:55:38 | MonMotha | they also added the audio as I mentioned |
| 20:57:02 | MonMotha | http://handhelds.org/Compaq/iPAQH3600/iPAQ_H3600.html |
| 20:57:26 | MonMotha | 1.12.1 is expansion pack header |
| 21:00:38 | MonMotha | basically enough to run two PCMCIA slots, a couple CF slots, external power source, and a few other things |
| 21:07:47 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:10:33 | MonMotha | btw, did we ever figure out what exactly the batteries are for? |
| 21:11:36 | sorphin | backing up of something.. |
| 21:11:42 | sorphin | i've been gone, so... |
| 21:14:08 | MonMotha | my guess would be some portion of the RAM? |
| 21:14:18 | MonMotha | that's all I can really think of that needs to be backed up |
| 21:14:40 | MonMotha | everything else is non-volitile or rather pointless to have on when the unit isn't powered |
| 21:14:59 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 21:15:04 | sorphin | trace where they hook into? |
| 21:15:19 | MonMotha | I guess, I'm just amazed nobody's looked into that |
| 21:15:58 | sorphin | no inspiration maybe? you're the only one really worried about it ;) |
| 21:16:02 | sorphin | and it comes w/ batteries, so.. |
| 21:17:23 | MonMotha | heh |
| 21:17:28 | MonMotha | I'm just curious as to what they do |
| 21:17:42 | MonMotha | as I said, I can't really think of anything to do with the juice other than back up the RAM |
| 21:18:31 | MonMotha | you happen to know where J500 is? |
| 21:18:58 | sorphin | umm.. no.. i haven't had one of em open in a while.. |
| 21:19:21 | MonMotha | I think it's under the RF shield... |
| 21:19:41 | sorphin | nod |
| 21:19:55 | sorphin | so take yours apart and look? |
| 21:20:06 | MonMotha | I guess I could... |
| 21:20:37 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:20:45 | MonMotha | the shematics show the a batt level, batt test, and batt disable on J500 |
| 21:20:58 | sorphin | nod |
| 21:21:04 | sorphin | has never looked at em |
| 21:22:41 | MonMotha | I really don't care what it's for for any practical reason, I'm just curious :) |
| 21:56:32 | sorphin | allo julie |
| 21:57:01 | MonMotha | what's up with the wiki? |
| 21:57:08 | MonMotha | like half the pages that used to be there seem blank |
| 21:57:16 | sorphin | here we go again :P |
| 21:57:42 | sorphin | prolly either tim messing w/ it or browser pickyness |
| 21:58:00 | MonMotha | it's Mozilla 1.1 |
| 21:58:25 | sorphin | so? |
| 21:58:35 | sorphin | moz doesn't render *everything* :P |
| 21:58:49 | sorphin | i've had the wiki work only in netscape 4.7 before :P |
| 22:00:54 | sorphin | it's crappy stylesheets |
| 22:01:46 | MonMotha | well, most pages do work with it |
| 22:01:52 | MonMotha | and the same browser USED to work on these very pages |
| 22:02:02 | MonMotha | also, the source appears BLANK |
| 22:02:11 | sorphin | nod |
| 22:02:14 | MonMotha | other than the headers and wiki stuff at the top (no content) |
| 22:02:17 | sorphin | then it's prolly tim messing w/ it.. |
| 22:02:20 | sorphin | ah |
| 22:02:26 | sorphin | that's browser crap then :P |
| 22:02:36 | sorphin | shrugs |
| 22:03:08 | MonMotha | there's a stylesheet and stuff, and the links and stuff that's present on every wiki page, but no content |
| 22:03:15 | MonMotha | basically it looks like a blank wiki |
| 22:03:33 | MonMotha | odd actually |
| 22:03:37 | MonMotha | it ends with <input...> |
| 22:04:01 | MonMotha | so it's not the wholepage |
| 22:04:08 | sorphin | that's the same thing that i get when it's browser pickyness :P |
| 22:04:17 | sorphin | try 4.7 |
| 22:04:22 | sorphin | if you have it around |
| 22:04:27 | MonMotha | hum...I guess I've still got an old netscape install on my old slack install that I can chroot to |
| 22:08:14 | sorphin | has moz and netscape here, and still mainly use netscape, cuz well... moz sucks |
| 22:08:37 | MonMotha | I've found moz to be very nice actually |
| 22:08:42 | MonMotha | though I have a rather overpowered systemn |
| 22:09:00 | MonMotha | I certainly wouldn't try running moz on my Tux :)_ |
| 22:09:20 | sorphin | umm |
| 22:09:31 | sorphin | is running it on a 1ghz athlon w/ 1.5G of memory |
| 22:10:10 | MonMotha | that's even more than I've got... |
| 22:10:14 | MonMotha | 1Ghz P3 /w .5GB |
| 22:10:21 | sorphin | nods |
| 22:10:28 | MonMotha | it runs great for m |
| 22:10:28 | MonMotha | e |
| 22:10:46 | sorphin | it still has mem leaks :P |
| 22:11:02 | MonMotha | I haven't noticed any serious ones |
| 22:11:15 | MonMotha | I've had moz up for weeks on end and it's not like it's over 100MB or anything :) |
| 22:11:16 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:11:26 | MonMotha | of course it's normally like 70MB (ouch) |
| 22:11:30 | sorphin | depends on the kinda pages you go to |
| 22:12:01 | MonMotha | well, I do ahve like 12 tabs up |
| 22:12:52 | sorphin | doesn't use "tabs" |
| 22:13:08 | MonMotha | they keep my iconbox cleaner |
| 22:13:17 | MonMotha | since I've got like 10 xpdfs up on the same desktop |
| 22:13:28 | sorphin | nod |
| 22:47:08 | Russ | I don't see what I'd use more than 512M for |
| 22:47:11 | Russ | xpdf is so icky |
| 22:47:24 | Russ | gv is cool, ggv is poorly coded |
| 22:47:29 | Russ | (it seems) |
| 22:47:29 | file | frowns |
| 22:47:34 | sorphin | nod.. |
| 22:47:53 | Russ | I really wish ggv was better |
| 22:48:07 | MonMotha | I use ghostview for postscripts, xpdf for pdfs |
| 22:48:26 | Russ | gv works for most pdf's |
| 22:48:38 | sorphin | never messes w/ postscripts, but i do use ghostscript for printing |
| 22:49:15 | Russ | I have considered putting xpdf in a script, that makes a ps out of a pdf and then opens it in gw |
| 22:49:17 | Russ | er |
| 22:49:18 | Russ | gv |
| 22:51:15 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:51:38 | sorphin | just uses xpdf on the rare occasions i use a pdf |
| 22:52:09 | file | mmm |
| 23:13:50 | file | trillback: you should change the secondary nickname |
| 23:14:36 | sorphin | file: you should myob |
| 23:15:59 | file | growls |
| 23:16:27 | sorphin | prpplague: evening |
| 23:18:25 | prpplague | sorphin: evening |
| 23:19:45 | sorphin | sup? |
| 23:28:10 | prpplague | seeing how much coding theory i can assimilate in 24 hours without my brain exploding |
| 23:34:03 | MonMotha | prpplague: this is why I hate programming :) |
| 23:52:56 | prpplague | MonMotha: i truely believe that programming is an outcroping of theory, the theory of problem solving, theory of qualitative conversion of things that normally can't be measured in quanitity |
| 23:53:36 | MonMotha | prpplague: agreed...I just don't want to be a code monkey |
| 23:54:24 | prpplague | MonMotha: same here, thats why i spend way too much time studing problem solving rather than coding |
| 23:54:46 | prpplague | MonMotha: i'm employeed as a problem solver not a coder |
| 23:55:00 | prpplague | MonMotha: yet coding is something i often do |
| 23:55:03 | MonMotha | very nice |
| 23:58:05 | prpplague | MonMotha: you don't see me much on the arm mail list yet i have the utt most respect for those that create truely great code like rmk, bzflag, erikm and andersee |
| 23:58:21 | MonMotha | heh, I'm not on the arm mail list :) |
| 23:58:34 | MonMotha | I'm on too many mailing lists as it is, and since I don't filter them... |
| 23:58:43 | prpplague | lol |
| 23:59:51 | prpplague | MonMotha: well, i think toooo many higher education schools don't teach more of the techniques of problem solving, they are more into push generic solutions |
