| 00:00:36 | sorphin | sjhill: you work for broadcom? |
| 00:01:05 | sjhill | yes |
| 00:01:12 | sorphin | grins |
| 00:01:20 | sorphin | ponders |
| 00:01:26 | sjhill | did you see on slashdot about Dish Network releasing code for the 721 PVR box? |
| 00:01:31 | sorphin | yup |
| 00:01:42 | sjhill | that has my Linux kernel in it, thank you very much :) |
| 00:01:45 | sorphin | well |
| 00:01:52 | sorphin | the tivo S2 has your chip in it too ;) |
| 00:01:56 | sorphin | which is why i asked ;) |
| 00:01:57 | sjhill | yup |
| 00:02:39 | sorphin | isn't about to trash it tho to see what the other heatsink chip other than the mips proc is.. know if it's nother broadcom? |
| 00:03:11 | sjhill | so, you can see the MIPS processor, can you see the Broadcom chip? |
| 00:03:57 | sorphin | you can see the broadcom, but not the mips.. there are *2* sinked chips (and one unsinked is a broadcom) |
| 00:04:04 | sorphin | there's 3 chips |
| 00:04:07 | sorphin | 2 sinked |
| 00:04:08 | sorphin | 1 not |
| 00:04:17 | sorphin | he 1 not is a broadcom decoder |
| 00:04:27 | sjhill | the mips is probably a NEC 5432 or a QED MIPS chip |
| 00:04:33 | sorphin | right |
| 00:04:34 | sorphin | it is |
| 00:04:46 | sorphin | i was talking tho about the other sinked chip ;) |
| 00:05:04 | sjhill | the box you have is it connected to cable or sattellite? |
| 00:05:36 | sorphin | cable, but w/ a few simple changes on the board, it'd be SAT (tivo's reusing the board for the dtivo due out in the fall) |
| 00:06:00 | sjhill | the 3rd chip could be are docsis cable chip |
| 00:06:05 | sjhill | our even |
| 00:06:21 | sorphin | i.e. removing the analog tuner and putting on the sat tuners and putting on the card reader |
| 00:06:23 | sorphin | well |
| 00:06:30 | sorphin | i was thinking more an encoder |
| 00:06:38 | sorphin | since the SA needs both |
| 00:06:58 | sjhill | ah, yup, you're probably right, probably our mpeg2 encoder (kfir) chip |
| 00:07:03 | sorphin | yeah, that's it |
| 00:07:12 | sorphin | duh |
| 00:07:28 | sorphin | can you get specs on either? |
| 00:07:37 | sjhill | uh, probably not :) |
| 00:07:41 | sorphin | bah ;p |
| 00:08:13 | sorphin | has already seen code for the kfir |
| 00:08:26 | sorphin | but nothing for the decode |
| 00:08:38 | sorphin | other than the binary |
| 00:08:53 | sjhill | the chip is a BCM7030 that does the decoding |
| 00:09:11 | sjhill | that driver is highly proprietary, there's a lot of our IP in it i'm afraid |
| 00:09:36 | sorphin | gotta love a world that's obsessed w/ hiding ideas ;p |
| 00:09:44 | sjhill | sorphin: who do you work for |
| 00:09:57 | sorphin | worldcom, but that's irrelevant to any of this |
| 00:10:38 | sorphin | is one of the many low level tivo hackers (not to be confused w/ crackers).. |
| 00:10:49 | sjhill | heh |
| 00:11:30 | sorphin | we're the ones that started the adding drives, out of our ranks came the turbonet, tivonet, etc.. |
| 00:11:36 | sorphin | anyways |
| 00:11:53 | sorphin | has this S2 here, and just trying to dig into it is all.. |
| 00:12:00 | sjhill | sorphin: does the tivo box have the Ali 15xx chip? |
| 00:12:02 | sorphin | better hardware than the S1 had |
| 00:12:37 | sorphin | no |
| 00:12:41 | sorphin | lemme pop the box open |
| 00:12:48 | sorphin | btw, what's gonna happen to you guys |
| 00:12:55 | sorphin | w/ visiontek having probs |
| 00:12:59 | file | waves to sjhill |
| 00:13:04 | sjhill | hi file |
| 00:13:19 | sjhill | sorphin: we're doing juuuust fine...trust me :) |
| 00:13:41 | sorphin | more meant, gonna split back off or... |
| 00:13:50 | sorphin | since i thought vision was the parent co atm.. |
| 00:14:15 | file | sjhill: how's your Ninos? |
| 00:14:34 | sjhill | sorphin: ah, that i don't know |
| 00:14:48 | sjhill | file: my development machine w/my nino code was destroyed by fedex |
| 00:14:59 | file | sjhill: oh crap... |
| 00:15:01 | sjhill | file: will be 2 weeks until up |
| 00:15:07 | sjhill | file: yeah, i was pretty pissed off |
| 00:15:10 | file | sjhill: thank god for insurance |
| 00:15:35 | sjhill | file: well, i had an inspector come in from FedEx, now i wait 4-6 weeks to see if they will pay or not |
| 00:15:43 | file | sjhill: oh ic |
| 00:16:14 | file | I've never had problems |
| 00:16:33 | sjhill | neither have i up to this point |
| 00:17:07 | sorphin | sjhill: ok |
| 00:17:09 | file | I'm cheap and ship USPS all the time though |
| 00:17:10 | sorphin | the unsinked |
| 00:17:20 | sorphin | is the kfir-ii 7040kql |
| 00:17:22 | file | like the laptop I'm on, sent USPS surface for $20 :) came in 2 weeks |
| 00:18:17 | sjhill | sorphin: cool, now you know all the chips :) |
| 00:18:31 | sorphin | so the decoder is sinked.. that's weird |
| 00:19:03 | sjhill | sorphin: that is strange...however, i wouldn't think they would spend money putting it on there if it wasn't needed |
| 00:19:07 | file | twitches as his NIC dongle almost comes out |
| 00:19:38 | sorphin | sjhill: can you id this ? ;) |
| 00:19:41 | sorphin | 00:0f.0 Multimedia controller: Visiontech Ltd: Unknown device 9000 |
| 00:19:50 | sorphin | which one is it |
| 00:20:03 | sjhill | sorphin: is that from a 'cat /proc/pci'? |
| 00:20:11 | sorphin | well, lspci, but yeah, same diff |
| 00:20:18 | sorphin | that's one of your 2 chips |
| 00:20:46 | sjhill | just got confused |
| 00:21:03 | file | sjhill: why? |
| 00:21:12 | sjhill | sorphin: 3 chips, NEC 5432, Broadcom 7040, Visiontek? |
| 00:21:22 | file | debugging's always harder when you make a mistake, Java can't give you a stackback trace! |
| 00:21:55 | sorphin | well, it ids w/ lspci as visiontek, but since you and vision "are the same company" for the moment, it could be bcom |
| 00:22:25 | sjhill | sorphin: can you give me the XXXX:XXXX hex address? |
| 00:22:35 | sjhill | for the PCI indentifier |
| 00:22:42 | sorphin | lemme plug it back in ;) |
| 00:23:00 | sjhill | k |
| 00:23:14 | sjhill | sorphin: oh, wait, you're using the PCI slot? |
| 00:23:20 | sorphin | no |
| 00:23:23 | sorphin | there is no pci slot |
| 00:23:30 | sorphin | but things show up on the bus |
| 00:23:32 | sorphin | i.e. the USB |
| 00:23:34 | sjhill | sorphin: bear w/me, i haven't used tivo hardware |
| 00:23:36 | sorphin | 00:0d.0 USB Controller: CMD Technology Inc USB0670 (rev 06) |
| 00:23:41 | sorphin | that's the usb on the S2 |
| 00:23:56 | sjhill | k |
| 00:24:43 | sorphin | Class 0480: PCI device 141f:9000 (rev 0). |
| 00:26:05 | sorphin | they have 2 drivers for bcom chips... |
| 00:26:09 | sorphin | brcmdrv-rb 526672 0 |
| 00:26:10 | sorphin | and |
| 00:26:14 | sorphin | kfirm 103344 0 |
| 00:26:21 | sjhill | brcmdrv-rb is the 7030 cihp |
| 00:26:23 | sjhill | chip |
| 00:26:33 | sorphin | right |
| 00:26:39 | sorphin | and the firm is the 7040 |
| 00:26:44 | sjhill | cool |
| 00:26:48 | sjhill | looks good |
| 00:26:53 | sorphin | which is the one on the bus tho? |
| 00:27:21 | sorphin | one they shoved on the pci bus, and the other is likely i2c addressable (as tivo loves using i2c) |
| 00:28:10 | sjhill | the 7030 is NOT on the pci bus |
| 00:28:34 | sorphin | k, then it's prolly the 40 |
| 00:31:45 | sorphin | looks like the 7030 can poke at smartcards? |
| 00:31:52 | sjhill | yes |
| 00:32:11 | sorphin | don't suppose you guys are hiring? :) |
| 00:32:56 | sjhill | dunno' |
| 00:33:32 | sorphin | grins |
| 00:33:39 | sorphin | is an ee and a coder |
| 00:33:45 | sorphin | and definately need a new job ;p |
| 00:33:51 | sjhill | me too, msee and looking to do phd |
| 00:34:03 | sorphin | nods |
| 00:34:05 | sorphin | Morn: re |
| 00:34:12 | sjhill | hey Morn dude |
| 00:34:14 | Morn | I hit the wrong button :-( |
| 00:34:15 | file | will code for bandwidth |
| 00:34:22 | sorphin | doh |
| 00:34:29 | sorphin | sjhill: so you're actually in irvine? |
| 00:34:43 | sorphin | or just corporate is |
| 00:34:48 | Morn | I meant to move a channel to the left in xchat and accidently closed a bunch of windows |
| 00:34:50 | sjhill | sorphin: currently i'm in SanJose for 2 weeks, i live in Iowa |
| 00:35:00 | sorphin | sjhill: telecommute eh? |
| 00:35:07 | sjhill | sorphin: fricken' ayy |
| 00:35:11 | sorphin | :) |
| 00:35:21 | sorphin | too bad you won't be in san jose when i'm gonna be there |
| 00:35:22 | file | son of a gun |
| 00:35:27 | sorphin | file: shoosh |
| 00:35:28 | file | my touchpoint keeps moving by itself |
| 00:35:50 | sorphin | sjhill: i'll be in the bay area sept 10th-14th |
| 00:35:50 | file | sorphin: your behind this :) |
| 00:36:13 | Morn | I want to go to San Fran the end of Sept for the big Sun conference |
| 00:36:16 | Morn | but I can't afford it |
| 00:36:30 | sorphin | is gonna be there as part of his 3 state vacation |
| 00:37:05 | file | I wonder when I go back to school... |
| 00:37:06 | sorphin | vegas 7th-10th, bay area 10th-14th, portland 14th-17th |
| 00:37:34 | sorphin | kinda nice that i only have to hotel it in vegas |
| 00:37:52 | Morn | Portland is nice |
| 00:37:54 | Morn | I've been there |
| 00:38:27 | sorphin | been in the airport ;) |
| 00:38:41 | sorphin | last year when i was visiting some friends in trout lake, wi |
| 00:38:43 | sorphin | erm |
| 00:38:44 | sorphin | WA |
| 00:38:45 | Morn | last time I was in the airport there they had a lot of armed people standing around |
| 00:38:50 | sorphin | ok, i slept too much |
| 00:38:54 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:38:59 | sorphin | i flew right after sept 11th |
| 00:39:14 | sorphin | actually that's when i flew out to portland |
| 00:39:23 | Morn | we were there at the same time then |
| 00:39:29 | sorphin | was in a hotel in richmond, ky on the 11th |
| 00:39:33 | Morn | I flew from NYC to Portland |
| 00:40:15 | sorphin | bout all they got to do was look through dirty clothes at the tkt counter |
| 00:40:22 | sorphin | had no hassles any other time |
| 00:40:50 | Morn | BTW, don't build mozilla on a 360Mhz machine |
| 00:40:53 | Morn | it's not pretty |
| 00:40:58 | sorphin | hehe |
| 00:40:59 | file | lol |
| 00:41:01 | sorphin | wasn't planning on it ;) |
| 00:41:06 | file | what about running it on a 133MHz machine? |
| 00:41:08 | Morn | ok, it's a RISC processor |
| 00:41:10 | Morn | but still |
| 00:41:20 | sorphin | file: um.. diff arch file |
| 00:41:35 | file | shrugs |
| 00:41:37 | file | oh well |
| 00:41:44 | sorphin | Morn: the U5 i'll be getting is only a 150 or something |
| 00:41:55 | Morn | this is a AXi |
| 00:41:58 | Morn | it's building |
| 00:42:01 | sorphin | prolly ebay the damn thing |
| 00:42:08 | sorphin | tis very sub part |
| 00:42:12 | Morn | all so I can build the gpg support stuff |
| 00:42:27 | sorphin | 150/128M/512 cache i think |
| 00:42:40 | Morn | ah, I have a gig of ram in this box |
| 00:42:53 | sorphin | well, A) this is free |
| 00:42:59 | sorphin | B) it's a field decom |
| 00:43:07 | file | ahhh... Weezer |
| 00:43:09 | sorphin | C) it's just the monitor box for MAE |
| 00:43:13 | file | grooves |
| 00:43:21 | file | just the thought of you in love with someone else |
| 00:43:27 | file | it breaks my heart to you see hanging by yourself |
| 00:43:28 | sorphin | specifically, Mae West in California |
| 00:43:52 | sjhill | grooves to BurnCycle soundtrack |
| 00:43:57 | sorphin | prolly could just pick it up while i'm out there, but too much trouble transporting it on the plane |
| 00:44:01 | Morn | I want to get one of the Fire boxes |
| 00:44:16 | file | ok people - I need suggestions of where to put the Linux box prpplague sent me |
| 00:44:44 | sorphin | Morn: i just need an adapter that will adapt fscking sync on green and/or composite sync for me ;p |
| 00:44:47 | sjhill | file: bathroom |
| 00:44:50 | sorphin | my monitor is multi sync |
| 00:44:57 | sorphin | and can handle the freq's |
| 00:45:02 | file | sjhill: I don't have a long enough CAT5 cable |
| 00:45:05 | Morn | sorphin: my box doesn't even have a video card |
| 00:45:05 | sorphin | but the sync is in the wrong place |
| 00:45:27 | sorphin | Morn: well, my ss20 does, and as does my I2 |
| 00:45:46 | sorphin | everything's right next to me |
| 00:46:00 | Morn | I put the servers in the basement |
| 00:46:04 | Morn | ran cat5 down there |
| 00:46:15 | file | I'll move to the basement in a few months |
| 00:46:21 | file | until then all my systems are in my upstairs room |
| 00:46:25 | file | and it's getting crowded... |
| 00:46:32 | file | I have to sit my laptop on my bean bag lol |
| 00:46:47 | Morn | grin |
| 00:47:05 | file | hope nobody sits on it |
| 00:48:12 | file | Morn: don't sit on it |
| 00:48:30 | sorphin | Morn: well, as i said before, i live in the basement, and have a 7' rack down here |
| 00:48:54 | fontenot | who owns MIPS now? |
| 00:48:57 | Morn | cool |
| 00:49:31 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:51:16 | sorphin | i knew i shoulda did hte buy it now on these 2.4 cards.. but someone else did.. (they came w/ 4 isa pcmcia adapters too..) bah |
| 00:52:36 | sorphin | wanted to put em in the tuxes |
| 00:58:32 | sjhill | fontenot: MIPS is it's own company |
| 01:00:08 | fontenot | sjhill: ah I thought they had been bought in the last year or so |
| 01:05:26 | file | mmm |
| 01:10:16 | file | sorphin: neat |
| 01:11:04 | sorphin | file: huh? |
| 01:11:08 | file | sorphin: the cards |
| 01:11:17 | sorphin | nod |
| 01:11:18 | file | ISA pcmcia adapter... |
| 01:11:42 | sorphin | nice lil bonus, tho i mainly wanted the 2.4 pcmcia cards.. |
| 01:11:50 | file | aye |
| 01:52:19 | CosmicPenguin | evening all |
| 01:52:34 | bhima | good afternoon. |
| 03:12:39 | scanline | is back (gone 03:43:59) |
| 03:18:45 | sorphin | scanline: till you lose your route again ;) |
| 03:19:16 | scanline | sorphin: eh? |
| 03:19:32 | scanline | sorphin: should be fine now |
| 03:19:39 | scanline | I was just in Real Life (tm) for a while |
| 03:25:29 | sorphin | well, most of the time you connect, and no route to host ;) |
| 03:32:17 | scanline | oh... my X server was crashing |
| 03:33:01 | scanline | right now I'm pissed because I think someone deleted all the php and png files from picogui.org |
| 03:33:05 | sorphin | stop copying morn ;) |
| 03:33:07 | sorphin | ouch |
| 03:33:17 | sorphin | bad access control? :P |
| 03:33:27 | scanline | I dunno whether someone cracked into sourceforge, or whether someone who had access made a mistake or did it on purpose |
| 03:33:42 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 03:33:44 | scanline | kind of suspicious because sourceforge's site was down earlier, so maybe they got cracked |
| 03:34:21 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 03:34:32 | sorphin | should always keep a backup tho.. |
| 03:35:08 | scan[ibook] | hmm |
| 03:36:52 | scan[ibook] | I think my GF3 and firewire cards don't like to share IRQs |
| 03:37:04 | sorphin | grins |
| 03:37:13 | sorphin | hates having to sort out irq sharing to begin w/ |
| 03:38:01 | scan[ibook] | well, my first class doesn't start until 2:00 PM so I have plenty of time to fix my IRQ conflict then see what happened to picogui.org... |
| 03:38:08 | scan[ibook] | sighs |
| 03:38:35 | sorphin | nods |
| 03:38:40 | sorphin | what's the class? |
| 03:40:17 | scan[ibook] | checks |
| 03:41:21 | scan[ibook] | Probability |
| 03:41:28 | scan[ibook] | then Algorithms right after that |
| 03:41:33 | scan[ibook] | I have an easy day mondays :) |
| 03:41:58 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:42:16 | sorphin | calc was easier for me than prob/stat (which was part of discrete math in HS) |
| 03:43:03 | scan[ibook] | tries booting his computer sans firewire card |
| 03:44:40 | scan[ibook] | damn.. already crashed |
| 03:44:46 | scan[ibook] | is ready to shoot something |
| 03:45:09 | sorphin | grins |
| 03:46:30 | scan[ibook] | heh.. now the sound card and nvidia are sharing IRQs |
| 03:46:37 | scan[ibook] | prepares to play musical cards |
| 03:47:09 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:52:38 | scan[ibook] | yarr... now eth0 and nvidia sharing |
| 03:52:43 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:52:45 | scan[ibook] | takes a big bite out of his bios |
| 03:52:49 | sorphin | checks how giga is sharing |
| 03:53:01 | scan[ibook] | nvidia just doesn't play nice! |
| 03:53:04 | sorphin | 11: 3050526 XT-PIC eth0, nvidia |
| 03:53:10 | sorphin | no probs w/ it either |
| 03:53:22 | scan[ibook] | hmm |
| 03:53:28 | scan[ibook] | what kind of ethernet card? |
| 03:53:47 | sorphin | D-Link DFE-538TX (RealTek RTL8139) |
| 03:53:52 | sorphin | so |
| 03:53:55 | sorphin | a 530TX+ |
| 03:54:09 | scan[ibook] | mine's a RTL8139 also |
| 03:54:10 | scan[ibook] | hmm |
| 03:54:21 | scan[ibook] | is paranoid though, so he tries to get nothing sharing with nvidia |
| 03:54:31 | sorphin | good luck |
| 03:54:35 | scan[ibook] | most of my crashes were when my SB Live and nvidia had the same IRQ |
| 03:54:44 | sorphin | taht doesn't surprise me |
| 03:54:52 | sorphin | has an awe64 |
| 03:54:57 | scan[ibook] | it's always the X server taking 100% CPU, then if you ssh in and kill -9 it, the whole thing freezes |
| 03:54:59 | sorphin | cuz i didn't like how the live acted |
| 03:55:18 | scan[ibook] | yeah.. the drivers for this sb live are nice, but there's too much noise in the signal |
| 03:55:54 | sorphin | also in this box are an adaptec ultra scsi card |
| 03:56:23 | sorphin | and a haupaugge card |
| 03:57:33 | scan[ibook] | I had this thing loaded.. 2 video cards, firewire, sound, two ethernet... |
| 03:57:51 | sorphin | nods |
| 03:57:55 | scan[ibook] | I don't have a second monitor here or my firewire disk, so one video card and the firewire are out now |
| 03:58:11 | sorphin | kinda funny, my next lowest machine has my TNT in it and still has my old voodoo2 |
| 03:58:34 | sorphin | the tv out never did work right on the TNT |
| 03:58:38 | scan[ibook] | w00t.. nvidia no longer sharing |
| 03:58:54 | scan[ibook] | now my USB is sharing with eth1 and the SB live.. but that shouldn't be a big deal |
| 03:58:58 | scan[ibook] | tries to run X now |
| 03:59:13 | sorphin | doesn't even have the USB on, on giga, no point |
| 03:59:44 | scanline | whee.. no crash yet |
| 03:59:46 | scanline | goes back to restoring backups |
| 04:00:12 | sorphin | goes back to listening to an aussie hottie ;) |
| 04:01:47 | scan[ibook] | ARGH |
| 04:01:50 | scan[ibook] | x server.. bad! |
| 04:01:54 | sorphin | hehe |
| 04:02:05 | sorphin | what version of the driver? |
| 04:02:22 | scan[ibook] | forgets.. and tries to check |
| 04:02:38 | scan[ibook] | hmm... I don't remember this crashing since I upgraded debian |
| 04:02:42 | scan[ibook] | maybe it upgraded X |
| 04:02:42 | sorphin | NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-2802 here.. |
| 04:03:04 | scan[ibook] | 2960 here |
| 04:03:13 | sorphin | debian prolly upgraded X |
| 04:03:13 | scan[ibook] | XFree 4.1.0.1 |
| 04:03:22 | scan[ibook] | but I think that's what I had before.... |
| 04:03:24 | scan[ibook] | hmm |
| 04:03:36 | sorphin | and you have NVdriver and agpgart loaded? |
| 04:04:04 | scan[ibook] | no agpgart.. IIRC I compiled that into my kernel |
| 04:04:10 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:04:30 | scan[ibook] | should try loading less kernel modules... there are a lot loaded |
| 04:04:34 | sorphin | also |
| 04:04:37 | sorphin | in your X config |
| 04:04:42 | sorphin | you using the right one? |
| 04:05:09 | scan[ibook] | I'll check again, but I'm pretty sure yes. I know OpenGL acceleration works fine on this machine |
| 04:05:11 | sorphin | nvidia (not nv) |
| 04:05:23 | scan[ibook] | yep, it's correct |
| 04:05:46 | sorphin | try w/ the module out and using nv |
| 04:05:50 | sorphin | and see if it crashes |
| 04:05:53 | scan[ibook] | k |
| 04:06:07 | sorphin | if it doesn't then the driver's being finiky |
| 04:09:38 | sorphin | bah, i hate X |
| 04:10:00 | sorphin | netscape's hanging mine up atm.. it's still up, but yo ucan't connect to it |
| 04:10:46 | scanline | back up with the nv driver.. but for how long |
| 04:14:08 | sorphin | no crash yet huh? ;) |
| 04:14:29 | scanline | nope |
| 04:14:45 | sorphin | remade the driver since you updated? |
| 04:14:59 | scanline | yay, assuming this doesn't crash right after I celebrate, I can definitively blame nvidia for all my crashing |
| 04:15:07 | sorphin | the nvidia one that is |
| 04:15:09 | scanline | right |
| 04:15:24 | scanline | I haven't yet, I'll try that as soon as I've got these backup restores done |
| 04:15:28 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:15:30 | sorphin | and if that don't work |
| 04:15:39 | sorphin | talk to the linux guy in #nvidia |
| 04:15:43 | scanline | k |
| 04:18:43 | sorphin | Russ: btw.. i tried giFT.. not bad.. too bad there's not as many ppl as on gnutella, but still not bad.. and less bandwidth eating here.. |
| 04:19:27 | sorphin | wonder if i should bother updating X.. tisn't broke, but tis old.. |
| 04:28:20 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:28:35 | sorphin | the nv driver is the "most stable" |
| 04:28:41 | sorphin | but it doesn't accelerate |
| 04:28:46 | scanline | yea |
| 04:29:00 | scanline | micah@yoshi:~$ glxgears |
| 04:29:00 | scanline | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
| 04:29:15 | scanline | but I'll fix that soon... |
| 04:29:17 | sorphin | hasn't even tried gl here on giga |
| 04:29:21 | sorphin | only on the thinkpad |
| 04:29:29 | sorphin | when i was testing to see if i had the supported ATI chipset |
| 04:29:32 | scanline | hehe.. you have an nvidia card but don't use OpenGL? |
| 04:29:44 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:29:55 | sorphin | rarely had occasion TO use it |
| 04:30:05 | sorphin | anything i do is either normal or supports XV |
| 04:30:10 | sorphin | tho |
| 04:30:15 | sorphin | aviplay uses GLX it seems |
| 04:31:28 | sorphin | has only ever had 3 accelerated cards.. my TNT, the GF256 and the voodoo2 (which paired w/ the TNT) |
| 04:31:40 | sorphin | well, unless you count my old virge |
| 04:32:04 | scanline | I don't use OpenGL all that much.. but I do play the occasional FPS game under linux, and I do some OpenGL programming |
| 04:32:42 | sorphin | last thing i did was Q3 |
| 04:32:52 | sorphin | been meaning to look at RTCW |
| 04:33:06 | scanline | UT under linux is good... not as good as Q3 though |
| 04:33:57 | sorphin | well, surprisingly, w/ some things/games, you wouldn't know this box is what it is |
| 04:34:38 | sorphin | but i cba to upgrade again |
| 04:34:52 | scanline | cba? |
| 04:35:09 | | OK, sorphin. |
| 04:35:09 | sorphin | ibot: cba is Can't Be Arsed. |
| 04:35:13 | scanline | ah |
| 04:35:29 | sorphin | knows more brits than i care to count ;) |
| 04:35:38 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:36:01 | sorphin | if you're wondering wtf i named a box 'giga' |
| 04:36:17 | sorphin | because at the time, everything (well, major things) had 'gig' in them |
| 04:36:23 | sorphin | the proc speed, the drives and the memory |
| 04:36:27 | scanline | hehe |
| 04:36:57 | sorphin | 1ghz tbird, 120G, and 1.5G |
| 04:37:03 | scanline | wow |
| 04:37:22 | sorphin | this is actually tbird #4 |
| 04:37:35 | sorphin | had 3 disintigrate |
| 04:37:53 | sorphin | all got rma'd tho ;) |
| 04:38:22 | sorphin | is quite good at returning things |
| 04:38:32 | scanline | wonders how long it will take for this to upload 250MB.... |
| 04:38:37 | sorphin | the 1st got attacked by my copper shim |
| 04:38:45 | scanline | doh |
| 04:38:46 | scanline | that sucks |
| 04:38:47 | sorphin | which quickly got thrown away |
| 04:39:02 | sorphin | it shorted across the bottom bridges for v control |
| 04:39:08 | sorphin | the other 2 |
| 04:39:11 | sorphin | were penciled |
| 04:39:19 | sorphin | gave up on penciling after taht |
| 04:39:26 | sorphin | so giga isn't overclockable |
| 04:39:50 | sorphin | and considering the temp it runs at |
| 04:39:54 | scanline | I overclocked my old Celeron 366 a little, but these new athlons are already so hot I wouldn't want to overclock them |
| 04:39:54 | sorphin | i'd rather not anwyays |
| 04:39:59 | sorphin | yup |
| 04:40:05 | sorphin | in a normal tower |
| 04:40:08 | sorphin | it was 95F |
| 04:40:11 | sorphin | in the rack |
| 04:40:14 | sorphin | it's atleast 100 |
| 04:40:18 | scanline | yech |
| 04:40:25 | scanline | wonders how hot his CPU is... |
| 04:40:27 | sorphin | and that's w/ an MC462 and 5600rpm fan |
| 04:40:34 | scanline | I could never get lm_sensors to cooperate on this motherboard |
| 04:40:36 | sorphin | took off the delta, too damn noisy |
| 04:40:56 | scanline | This Antec fan I have now is WAY too noisy |
| 04:41:02 | sorphin | the delta whines loud |
| 04:41:09 | scanline | like, the CPU fan is noisier than all the other fans on my two systems |
| 04:41:14 | sorphin | yup |
| 04:41:19 | sorphin | i couldn't sleep w/ it on |
| 04:41:37 | sorphin | this is actually a nice MB |
| 04:41:47 | sorphin | is still quite pleased w/ it |
| 04:41:55 | scanline | I usually get cheap motherboards... |
| 04:42:02 | sorphin | has an IWill |
| 04:42:05 | scanline | tho I got a nice one for my server with 4 IDE controllers, for about $70 |
| 04:42:15 | sorphin | nods |
| 04:42:31 | sorphin | the iwill's a good, moderate priced board |
| 04:42:35 | sorphin | passed on ide raid tho |
| 04:42:42 | sorphin | no room in this case anyways |
| 04:42:59 | scanline | has 645GB of disk in his server, and uses RAID-5 :) |
| 04:43:09 | sorphin | scanline: ok, Russ Jr :P |
| 04:43:22 | scanline | haha.. how much disk does Russ have? |
| 04:43:34 | sorphin | forget, but he raid5's too |
| 04:43:44 | scanline | just wanted more space for anime DivXes and such, and found a good deal on 120GB drives |
| 04:44:00 | sorphin | well, i don't have the physical space in my 4U case ;p |
| 04:44:09 | scanline | I have no rack yet.. just two full towers |
| 04:44:16 | sorphin | w/ a scsi cdrom, a scsi CDR and 2 HDs |
| 04:44:18 | scanline | you colocate, or just use a rack at home? |
| 04:44:22 | sorphin | this is at home |
| 04:44:30 | sorphin | is sitting next to the rack |
| 04:44:33 | scanline | mmmm rack |
| 04:44:38 | sorphin | cost me $99 |
| 04:44:38 | scanline | rack stuff is expensive though... |
| 04:44:41 | scanline | wow! |
| 04:44:59 | sorphin | rack cases are expensive, yeah |
| 04:45:11 | scanline | did you build the rack yourself? |
| 04:45:12 | sorphin | mewp and giga are mid towers sitting under giga on the bottom of the rack |
| 04:45:20 | sorphin | assembled it |
| 04:46:29 | sorphin | has 3 center weight shelves, 2 normal shelves, and the 4U, and well, a buncha routers/my catalyst that are rack fitting |
| 04:47:01 | sorphin | is not happy that the I2 won't fit |
| 04:47:12 | sorphin | if i had a 21" rack it'd fit |
| 04:47:20 | sorphin | but it's just too big for a 19" |
| 04:58:11 | scanline | wishes he had a rack... |
| 04:58:20 | scanline | though these two athlons heat up the room enough |
| 04:58:27 | scanline | maybe in the winter I'll bring some more computers |
| 05:01:25 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:01:36 | sorphin | only thing on my rack that creates much heat is my SS20 |
| 05:04:36 | scanline | watches his roommate eat chips, on his webcam |
| 05:37:51 | Russ | scanline: only 80G |
| 05:38:55 | scanline | ah |
| 05:55:53 | sorphin | couple 40s if i remember right now |
| 05:58:00 | scanline | for RAID-5 you'd need at least 3 drives.. |
| 06:22:18 | sorphin | i meant that are "useable" |
| 06:38:45 | sorphin | grrr |
| 06:38:50 | sorphin | stupid VM strikes again |
| 06:39:26 | sorphin | baredly used shiz for memory, and instead of using the 1105256 of cache it's stolen |
| 06:39:32 | sorphin | it nuked a process |
| 06:40:18 | sorphin | Russ: so much for "taking memory from the cache 1st" :P |
| 06:41:59 | sorphin | instead it's taking memory *for* the cache |
| 07:15:15 | scanline | is away: Zzzzz Zzzzzz..... |
| 08:29:07 | scanline | is back (gone 01:13:52) |
| 08:36:29 | sorphin | scanline: well, just got GL working |
| 08:36:40 | scanline | cool |
| 08:36:48 | scanline | can't sleep |
| 08:36:53 | sorphin | "gears" gives about 168FPS |
| 08:37:27 | sorphin | tis the gears that comes w/ mesademos |
| 08:39:09 | sorphin | know of any other good tests.. |
| 08:42:19 | scanline | the 3D xscreensavers would be good |
| 08:42:29 | scanline | and some games, like tuxracer and armagetron |
| 08:42:54 | scanline | reads online comics until he finishes his Mountain Dew |
| 08:46:08 | sorphin | all the demos ran in lil windows.. isn't there a bigger gears ? |
| 08:46:22 | scanline | should be able to just maximize it |
| 08:46:36 | scanline | though it should be faster.. running in the deafault little window I got like 2000FPS on gears |
| 08:46:39 | sorphin | hmm |
| 08:46:52 | scanline | so with a GF256 I'd think you'd get at least like 500 |
| 08:47:55 | sorphin | this is using glut and GLU and GL, not GLX |
| 08:48:10 | scanline | k |
| 08:48:30 | sorphin | so it's not using the nvida glx lib.. |
| 08:48:52 | sorphin | heh |
| 08:48:59 | sorphin | at 1145x732 |
| 08:49:00 | sorphin | i get |
| 08:49:06 | sorphin | 19fps |
| 08:49:13 | scanline | eww.. you sure that's not software rendering? |
| 08:49:34 | sorphin | hasn't a clue |
| 08:49:41 | scanline | glxinfo will tell you |
| 08:49:58 | sorphin | [dans@giga /usr/share/doc/mesademos/demos]$ glxinfo |
| 08:49:58 | sorphin | display: :0.0 screen:0 |
| 08:49:58 | sorphin | direct rendering: Yes |
| 08:50:05 | scanline | hmm |
| 08:50:42 | sorphin | i got better on my thinkpad w/ the ATI mobility 128 chipset |
| 08:51:04 | scanline | maybe gears is running with the wrong libGL? |
| 08:51:09 | scanline | did you try glxgears? |
| 08:51:13 | sorphin | i don't have it |
| 08:51:17 | scanline | k |
| 08:51:23 | sorphin | where the hell is it? ;) |
| 08:51:33 | sorphin | only has what came w/ mesa |
| 08:51:37 | scanline | I dunno.. you could ask packages.debian.org |
| 08:51:58 | sorphin | btw |
| 08:52:10 | sorphin | i'm just using gl, not w/ glide or ggi |
| 08:52:37 | scanline | that's good... because glide is only for 3dfx cards and ggi is 2D only (AFAIK) :) |
| 08:52:49 | scanline | hi prpplague |
| 08:53:00 | sorphin | weird |
| 08:53:02 | prpplague | scanline: morning |
| 08:53:06 | sorphin | it's in x11/xbase-clients |
| 08:53:37 | sorphin | ah well, it's 5am and i really don't feel like updating X atm.. |
| 08:53:49 | sorphin | considering i do still have to work a 1/2 day today |
| 08:53:54 | sorphin | then have the allergist to go to |
| 08:54:11 | scanline | have fun |
| 08:54:22 | sorphin | oh yeah, have things put all over my back |
| 08:54:23 | sorphin | :P |
| 08:54:29 | sorphin | is getting tested today |
| 08:54:47 | scanline | ah.. so they know what kind of pills to give you later so you stop sneezing |
| 08:55:03 | sorphin | actually, i don't sneeze, i just have chronic sinuses |
| 08:55:07 | scanline | ah |
| 08:55:07 | sorphin | but something's causing it |
| 08:55:26 | sorphin | and i'd like to see if it's an allergy or not |
| 08:55:36 | sorphin | anyhow.. later |
| 08:56:04 | scanline | seeya |
| 12:41:56 | cpenguin_away | is back (gone 61:19:12) |
| 13:24:53 | signal11 | http://homepage.mac.com/mista_t/ |
| 13:25:06 | sorphin | ? |
| 13:30:22 | signal11 | the most important web site, ever |
| 13:30:30 | signal11 | sorry, i realize it's completely off topic |
| 13:30:50 | sorphin | ah cool.. mr t |
| 13:30:53 | sorphin | it's allowed then |
| 14:17:21 | sorphin | ugh |
| 14:17:35 | sorphin | FSF now officially tied w/ "freenode".. |
| 14:19:28 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats good - now they will shut up about donations |
| 14:19:58 | CosmicPenguin | everybody's favorite socialist, RMS won't stand for that |
| 14:24:02 | sorphin | rms is a pudwhacker |
| 14:33:07 | sorphin | cool |
| 14:33:13 | sorphin | you can rate lilo.. |
| 14:33:18 | sorphin | rates him as useless ;p |
| 14:38:14 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: do you like anyone at all? |
| 14:38:40 | sorphin | yes |
| 14:39:29 | sorphin | has no reason to not like you :P |
| 14:40:00 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thats unusual - most people hate me to begin with, but they usually warm up to me at the end |
| 14:40:01 | file | has his wireless network setup and running |
| 14:40:07 | file | I'm on it now as a matter of fact |
| 14:40:16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: now file, on the other hand ;) |
| 14:40:42 | sorphin | mv file /dev/null |
| 14:41:13 | sorphin | for anyone that cares, the very large, updated network diagram (of my network) is up... |
| 14:41:33 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: file is a good guy, except for his relationship with the mail man... very scary |
| 14:41:36 | file | is in the basement now |
| 14:41:52 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i heard the mailman is his father |
| 14:43:14 | file | a delivery guy came and stuffed it in the door |
| 14:43:18 | file | didn't even wait for me to come get it |
| 14:43:31 | file | anyway - I need to install a protocol... |
| 14:43:31 | file | brb |
| 14:43:39 | sorphin | they usually ring once, and leave it and walk off |
| 14:48:32 | sorphin | switchcat: morning |
| 14:49:19 | file | bah |
| 14:49:22 | file | didn't work |
| 14:49:28 | file | I can't monitor my signal strength |
| 14:50:17 | sorphin | sounds like a personal prob |
| 14:51:41 | file | bbl |
| 15:07:13 | scanline | is away: foodlike substances |
| 15:33:12 | file | hey mallum, got my wireless network kit :) |
| 15:33:23 | mallum | file: cool :)) |
| 15:33:32 | file | I'm on it now actually |
| 15:34:15 | file | still got full strength even in the basement |
| 15:41:42 | mallum | andersee: are you there ? |
| 15:47:49 | scanline | is back (gone 00:40:36) |
| 15:48:45 | sorphin | yawns |
| 15:51:13 | andersee | mallum: nope |
| 15:51:21 | andersee | mallum: nobody here but us chickens |
| 15:52:01 | mallum | andersee: ;) |
| 15:52:53 | sorphin | andersee: and you busybox lovers |
| 15:53:20 | mallum | andersee: A quick que for you; Am I correct in assumming busybox's ash when run with a '-c' forks then execs, rather than just execs ( which bash appears to do ? ) ? |
| 15:58:06 | andersee | mallum: yup |
| 15:58:12 | andersee | $ strace -fF ./busybox ash -c echo "hi" |
| 15:58:19 | andersee | [----------snip------------] |
| 15:58:24 | andersee | stat64("./echo", 0xbffff078) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 15:58:24 | andersee | stat64("/bin/echo", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=10844, ...}) = 0 |
| 15:58:24 | andersee | fork() = 1733 |
| 15:58:25 | andersee | [pid 1733] execve("/bin/echo", ["echo"], [/* 42 vars */]) = 0 |
| 15:58:31 | andersee | [----------snip------------] |
| 15:58:37 | andersee | [pid 1733] _exit(0) = ? |
| 15:58:37 | andersee | --- SIGCHLD (Child exited) --- |
| 15:58:38 | andersee | getpgrp() = 1731 |
| 15:58:38 | andersee | rt_sigaction(SIGINT, NULL, {0x805555f, [], 0x4000000}, 8) = 0 |
| 15:58:38 | andersee | rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x8050e74, [], 0x4000000}, {0x805555f, [], 0x4000000}, 8) = 0 |
| 15:58:38 | andersee | wait4(-1, [WIFEXITED(s) && WEXITSTATUS(s) == 0], 0, NULL) = 1733 |
| 15:58:40 | andersee | rt_sigaction(SIGINT, {0x805555f, [], 0x4000000}, NULL, 8) = 0 |
| 15:58:42 | andersee | _exit(0) |
| 15:58:53 | sorphin | andersee: be nice and announce floods? ;) |
| 15:59:04 | file | yeah... announce |
| 15:59:19 | andersee | announces the flood if now over |
| 15:59:36 | sorphin | dumps a very large bucket of icewater on erik |
| 15:59:48 | andersee | shivers |
| 15:59:49 | sorphin | now, it's over ;p |
| 16:00:50 | file | hi Russ |
| 16:00:52 | sorphin | Russ: morning |
| 16:01:42 | Russ|werk | morning |
| 16:03:28 | file | wireless rocks... |
| 16:06:37 | mallum | andersee: Is there any reason why it behaves differently to bash ? |
| 16:07:46 | andersee | Because it was written by different people and uses different source code? |
| 16:08:58 | mallum | ;) |
| 16:09:32 | sorphin | mallum: it behaves that way, because that's how erik wants it ;) |
| 16:09:35 | mallum | I mean is there any reason why it does it that way ? It seems more sensible to just exxec like bash to save memory ? |
| 16:09:44 | sorphin | mallum: it behaves that way, because that's how erik wants it ;) <---- |
| 16:09:48 | mallum | Is it worth me writing a patch for it ? |
| 16:09:59 | file | no TCSX-1 today |
| 16:10:28 | file | 36% battery charged |
| 16:10:55 | sorphin | pulls the plug |
| 16:11:09 | file | plugs it back in |
| 16:11:22 | sorphin | pulls it again and cuts the plug off |
| 16:11:29 | file | gets another adapter |
| 16:11:48 | sorphin | crams gum into the spot on the laptop where it plugs in ;p |
| 16:12:01 | file | takes the gum out and plugs it back in |
| 16:12:13 | sorphin | fills it w/ quick dry epoxy |
| 16:12:14 | sorphin | ;p |
| 16:12:22 | file | it'll be awhile till this is charged :| |
| 16:13:24 | andersee | sorphin: If you want to give it a try, sure I'll look over a patch. If it looks sensibe it'll go in... |
| 16:13:56 | mallum | andersee: was that to me ? |
| 16:14:04 | sorphin | chuckles |
| 16:14:10 | sorphin | it shoulda been |
| 16:14:31 | sorphin | redirects that to mallum |
| 16:17:34 | andersee | err. yup, sorry. |
| 16:17:38 | andersee | mallum: If you want to give it a try, sure I'll look over a patch. If it looks sensibe it'll go in... |
| 16:17:41 | andersee | ;-) |
| 16:19:30 | mallum | andersee: cool :) |
| 16:20:17 | mallum | andersee: then I shall write a busybox emacs which is smaller than the busybox vi |
| 16:20:25 | sorphin | ewww |
| 16:20:27 | sorphin | emacs |
| 16:20:30 | sorphin | shivers |
| 16:20:39 | mallum | andersee: or I'll learn how to use vi, but writing an emacs clone probably be easier ;) |
| 16:21:24 | sorphin | vi is easy |
| 16:24:25 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I'm a diehard emacs person, but I gotta admit, VI is much better for quick edits |
| 16:24:47 | file | waves to sjhill |
| 16:24:55 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeah, I actually learnt how to 'cut and paste' in it the other day :) |
| 16:25:06 | sjhill | hello file |
| 16:25:15 | file | sjhill: I'm on a wireless link right now :) |
| 16:25:21 | sjhill | cool |
| 16:25:49 | sorphin | file: stop trying to show off ;p |
| 16:25:56 | sorphin | sjhill: mornin mr broadcom ;) |
| 16:26:01 | file | haha |
| 16:26:07 | file | when I come on from the park then I'll show off :p |
| 16:26:09 | sjhill | hey sorphin :) |
| 16:26:20 | sorphin | file: that's nice |
| 16:26:49 | sorphin | sjhill: ya know, that hostmask is just plain silly ;p |
| 16:27:42 | sjhill | sorphin: i'm guessing it's because we don't manage our links, we contract it out |
| 16:28:02 | sorphin | a pix firewall |
| 16:28:37 | sorphin | do you do your own fab? ;) |
| 16:28:46 | sjhill | heh |
| 16:29:07 | sorphin | honest question there |
| 16:29:30 | sorphin | not every company has their own fab, some lease, etc.. |
| 16:29:41 | sjhill | sorphin: oh, no, we contract to TSMC |
| 16:30:43 | sorphin | least they have an easy to find page ;) |
| 16:33:34 | file | hi Nermal |
| 16:33:38 | Nermal | heya :) |
| 16:34:02 | sorphin | eek! it's an NTL user! |
| 16:34:32 | Nermal | it is :) |
| 16:34:37 | Nermal | and a happy one too :P |
| 16:36:28 | sorphin | happy and NTL in the same sentence? |
| 16:44:49 | Nermal | indeed |
| 17:41:39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: still in the tropics? |
| 17:43:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 17:43:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: probably going to be here for another week |
| 17:44:41 | andersee | prpplague: get to see the beach over the weekend? |
| 17:45:03 | prpplague | nope |
| 17:45:20 | prpplague | andersee: we went live yesterday morning |
| 18:03:30 | file | prpplague: nothing yet :) |
| 18:41:39 | scanline | is away: class time |
| 19:23:19 | warewolf | anyone here ever use xilinx cables for jtag on the tuxscreen? |
| 19:39:01 | Aelhaz | you mean a cable or a jtag interface? |
| 19:39:44 | Aelhaz | a jtag interface may include a cable, but also includes active electronics. anything that's more than just wire and connectors isn't a cable. |
| 19:41:21 | Aelhaz | short answer - there's probably no reason why an xilinx jtag interface couldn't work with the tux, but the fact that you ask, and that you call it a "cable", indicates that you lack the technical knowhow to make it work, and you'd be better off with a documented solution |
| 19:42:49 | Aelhaz | JTAG requires some specific combinations of code - you need (a) code to access your jtag programmer interface from your host computer, and (b) code to run on the target system through the jtag interface |
| 19:43:12 | Aelhaz | if you knew how those worked, you probably wouldn't have asked |
| 19:43:35 | Aelhaz | specifically - with enough software, nearly any boundary-scan capable jtag interface can be made to work |
| 19:44:02 | Aelhaz | though the electrical properties of some of them may make them unwise to use |
| 19:45:21 | Aelhaz | if you don't want to buy a LART type jtag dongle, wait a week or three and maybe I'll build and test a simple jtag interface you can cobble together with parts from any real electronics store for about $5 |
| 19:45:30 | Aelhaz | hell, I'll even sell you parts. |
| 19:45:35 | Aelhaz | anyway, gotta run. |
| 19:46:57 | | aelhaz: i don't know |
| 19:46:57 | Aelhaz | ibot, real electronics store? |
| 19:47:08 | | OK, Aelhaz. |
| 19:47:08 | Aelhaz | ibot, a real electronics store is anyone but the shack |
| 21:03:40 | scanline | is back (gone 02:22:02) |
| 21:17:02 | CosmicPenguin | Geez - I should get an xbox - the linux xbox folks seem to be having a good time |
| 21:18:34 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: And they use busybox. :) |
| 21:20:09 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: seriously, who doesn |
| 21:20:12 | CosmicPenguin | 't |
| 21:31:32 | Aelhaz | CosmicPenguin: I've got a micro-atx duron 600 box here i built to be a media processing settop - after everything was said and done, an xbox may have been cheaper - presuming drivers w/ high quality tv output and an addressable BES and pallet dac were available for it under linux |
| 21:31:50 | Aelhaz | (using a Matrox G400 dual head for tv-out) |
| 21:36:05 | MonMotha | busybox is like a creation of god or something |
| 21:36:10 | MonMotha | it's incredible |
| 21:36:38 | CosmicPenguin | Aelhaz: I just want an XBox to be a $200 media streamer in my main room - Asumming the DVD/CD works, its all there |
| 21:37:01 | CosmicPenguin | I don't even want the framebuffer |
| 21:38:52 | Aelhaz | CosmicPenguin: just a dvd drive and a nic? |
| 21:39:14 | Aelhaz | I wanted a framebuffer. I've got a jukebox upstairs with two scsi cdrom drives and 240 slots to do the streaming |
| 21:41:54 | CosmicPenguin | Aelhaz: sounds like a sweet box.. :) |
| 21:42:21 | Aelhaz | CosmicPenguin: It's an aincent machine, when i got it the drives in it were 2x toshibas |
| 21:42:30 | Aelhaz | the best i can put in it are 12x plextors |
| 21:42:35 | Aelhaz | (mechanical difficulties) |
| 21:42:47 | CosmicPenguin | Aelhaz: do you have ir support? |
| 21:43:02 | Aelhaz | there's a plextor 4x cd-r drive i can put in it, if i can find one |
| 21:43:28 | Aelhaz | CosmicPenguin: oh, it's just two cdrom drives and a selfcontained robot for switching disks, I drive it over the serial port from a PC with a scsi card |
| 21:43:52 | Aelhaz | they built boxes with up to 4 drives, but I came across this box by chance |
| 21:44:14 | Aelhaz | it'll also fit a particular model panasonic dvd-ram drive |
| 21:45:08 | Aelhaz | http://www.kubikjukebox.com/ <-- company still makes an updated version of what I've got |
| 21:47:13 | CosmicPenguin | cool |
| 21:47:34 | Aelhaz | the internal controller is a 8085 based board, i've been considering shoehorning a small 486 into the rack case |
| 21:48:21 | Aelhaz | the only one i have on hand, tho, is just a cyrix slc2-40, and might not be worth it |
| 21:48:46 | Aelhaz | really just need something with a scsi card, a serial port, and a nic. the cyrix board might be enough. |
| 21:50:30 | Aelhaz | or maybe someone who has a tux with a cracked screen could sell me the boards & ps from it :) |
| 21:50:34 | Aelhaz | anyway, bbl |
| 21:52:53 | CosmicPenguin | I gotta go as well |
| 21:52:57 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |