| 00:07:16 | file | pokes prpplague |
| 00:17:35 | cpenguin_home | A guy on TV just stuck his body through a tennis racket |
| 00:22:39 | cpenguin_home | is away: dinner is good |
| 01:03:16 | Sammy | morning... |
| 01:07:57 | prpplague | andersee: the evil dead arises |
| 01:08:08 | file | zombies? |
| 01:08:27 | andersee | feel like it |
| 01:08:41 | andersee | "Braims, more brains!" |
| 01:08:48 | andersee | "Send more cops!" |
| 01:08:52 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:08:55 | sorphin | a family getting computer chip implanted, thanks to their son, M$'s youngest engineer.. |
| 01:09:58 | file | mmm |
| 01:13:35 | file | is getting tired |
| 01:13:54 | prpplague | sorphin: sounds like a beta test of m$ mind control device |
| 01:13:59 | sorphin | prolly |
| 01:16:21 | cpenguin_home | is back (gone 00:53:42) |
| 01:16:42 | cpenguin_home | where did andersee gO? |
| 01:16:50 | file | unknown |
| 01:20:58 | cpenguin_home | thought he had all the good stuff to jtag his tuxscreen but he was wrong |
| 01:32:08 | scanline | is away: eating dinner to avoid the wrath of file |
| 01:38:56 | cpenguin_home | whassup with that? |
| 01:41:14 | spd_racer911 | anyone running linphone on their tux? (voip) |
| 01:41:40 | spd_racer911 | I just compiled linphone for X86 and would love to test it out! |
| 01:41:45 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: so whats on your plate for tomorrow? |
| 01:41:59 | cpenguin_home | spd_racer911: A long time ago, somebody somebody was working on that, but we haven't seen him a while |
| 01:42:05 | | SpaceCoaster was last seen on #tuxscreen 118 days, 9 hours, 24 minutes and 54 seconds ago, saying: so a shanip board, do the current kernels support audio (if a shanip is installed) ? [Thu Apr 18 17:17:11 2002] |
| 01:42:05 | cpenguin_home | ibot: seen SpaceCoaster? |
| 01:42:08 | cpenguin_home | Yeah |
| 01:42:24 | spd_racer911 | that was Ralph |
| 01:42:44 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: Hmm.... I'm adding a httpd server to our STB - a little skunk works project |
| 01:42:46 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: didn't SpaceCoaster loose his job? |
| 01:42:59 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ahh |
| 01:43:11 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: lol those skunks |
| 01:43:11 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: As long as I can hide in my office and keep myself busy, then I won't get sucked into the office bs |
| 01:43:29 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: i hear ya |
| 01:43:52 | cpenguin_home | the biggest mistake an engineer can make is asking a supervisor if they have anything for you to do |
| 01:43:54 | file | to sleep I go I think |
| 01:43:56 | file | bbl |
| 01:44:20 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: lol, yep |
| 01:44:45 | cpenguin_home | later file |
| 01:44:59 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: my main problem is i keep getting into it with the software department head |
| 01:45:21 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: i fix it, they break it, i fix again, they break it again |
| 01:45:27 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: job security |
| 01:49:12 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: mine or theirs? |
| 02:01:21 | cpenguin_home | both.. :) |
| 02:03:59 | cpenguin_home | The Utah highway patrol have been voted best dressed in the country... :) |
| 02:04:39 | kergoth` | cpenguin_home: egad, it disturbs me that someone had the time to create such a poll |
| 02:05:22 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: i guess the cops in DC are probably voted most likely to accept a bribe |
| 02:09:35 | cpenguin_home | Good god - the FAA requires that a pilot has a blood alochol level of .04 or less |
| 02:10:01 | cpenguin_home | Thats kind of scary to me |
| 02:11:36 | andersee | cpenguin_home: how many drinks is that? |
| 02:11:58 | andersee | cpenguin_home: i.e. a drunk breaths on a pilot and they can't fly? |
| 02:12:15 | prpplague | hmm depends on how they take their booze |
| 02:12:34 | prpplague | i can drink a 12 pack of bud light and not even feel it |
| 02:12:41 | andersee | prpplague: I think they usually use an IV drip |
| 02:13:37 | prpplague | andersee: ha |
| 02:14:34 | cpenguin_home | I guess the rule says that they can't drink 8 hours before a flight *and* have a BAL < .04 |
| 02:14:54 | cpenguin_home | But they caught a guy last week that partied so hard 8 hours before, he still was above the limit |
| 02:14:59 | cpenguin_home | Now, thats a party |
| 02:17:45 | andersee | cpenguin_home: If I'm gonna be flying I'd prefer my pilots to be sober... I'm not very fond of dying. |
| 02:17:59 | andersee | cpenguin_home: So the rule works for me |
| 02:18:46 | andersee | cpenguin_home: I don't care what they drink, smoke, inject, whatever the rest of time. But I want 'em stone-cold sober when I'm in their plane. |
| 02:19:33 | cpenguin_home | andersee: yeah - I was just surprised that there was an acceptable BAL. I would have though that pilots would have a zero tolerance policy |
| 02:20:20 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hell, if i were to get caught with any BAL at work, i'd be fired |
| 02:23:57 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: you seen the adds for spykids2? |
| 02:24:33 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: yep |
| 02:24:47 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: seen the robot bug? |
| 02:25:14 | cpenguin_home | that ties the tie? |
| 02:25:57 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ya, my son has decided that his dad has make one of those...... |
| 02:26:12 | prpplague | s/has/has to |
| 02:27:07 | cpenguin_home | I want one too |
| 02:29:14 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, i bet it runs on a SA |
| 02:32:38 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: better yet, a geode... :) |
| 02:32:48 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: argh i hope not |
| 02:32:55 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: ahh, come on |
| 02:33:21 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: i've not had too much fun with the geode audio and video |
| 02:33:49 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: The geode is my life.... I am way too familiar with that sob |
| 02:34:20 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, maybe i need to pic your brain about build a quality xfree86 server for geode |
| 02:34:37 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: man, I've already got one in classic buildroot-tux form... :) |
| 02:34:56 | cpenguin_home | I've got geode framebuffer drivers, I've got audio drivers (caution, they're buggy)_ |
| 02:35:58 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, there seem to be a large variation with the VSM used in the bios for geode based mb's |
| 02:38:21 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: true... that BIOS that National prefers sucks rocks |
| 02:39:35 | andersee | cpenguin_home: indeed |
| 02:39:42 | andersee | cpenguin_home: I remember trying to use it.... |
| 02:39:50 | andersee | cpenguin_home: its complete crap |
| 02:41:19 | cpenguin_home | andersee: its tempermental.... Our HW guy knows it better than anyone, and even he has to treat it with care |
| 02:41:43 | MonMotha | my god...IE sucks |
| 02:43:57 | cpenguin_home | well duh |
| 02:47:02 | MonMotha | font-size: small; doesn't work |
| 03:06:50 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: you done with that robot yet? |
| 03:07:52 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ya right, i do have a nice shell for it |
| 03:08:53 | cpenguin_home | Linux Journal picked Mozilla / Galeon for the best web browser |
| 03:09:05 | cpenguin_home | likes to think he had something to do with Galeon being picked... :) |
| 03:09:14 | cpenguin_home | My CEO was one of the guest "editors" that chose... |
| 03:09:24 | cpenguin_home | I told him to pick Galeon |
| 03:10:00 | andersee | cpenguin_home: they should have a best embedded Linux tool category. ;-) |
| 03:15:40 | cpenguin_home | andersee: wow... busybox, tinylogin or uclibc? |
| 03:15:43 | cpenguin_home | tough |
| 03:16:01 | cpenguin_home | Best development tool: emacs |
| 03:16:04 | cpenguin_home | Damn straight! |
| 03:16:14 | andersee | vim! |
| 03:16:17 | andersee | ;-) |
| 03:16:25 | andersee | BTW, seen this? |
| 03:16:28 | andersee | http://www.uwsg.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0208.1/1187.html |
| 03:17:58 | cpenguin_home | Wow... |
| 03:18:55 | andersee | Its going into a busybox Real Soon Now(tm). Will let us drop the RPC code out from the tuxscreen |
| 03:20:14 | cpenguin_home | does it work? |
| 03:20:20 | prpplague | andersee: cool, that will be important to the ltsp project |
| 03:20:29 | andersee | cpenguin_home: yes. It works. |
| 03:20:58 | cpenguin_home | nice |
| 03:21:20 | cpenguin_home | Doh |
| 03:21:35 | cpenguin_home | andersee: the pins on the ribbon cable I liberated from work are too big for the jtag dongle |
| 03:24:56 | cpenguin_home | wonders why nobody has talked about the SSL exploit lately |
| 03:25:13 | cpenguin_home | Its like it never happened on bugtraq |
| 03:31:21 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: i haven't even done anything about it.. i didn't see it on /. either so.. |
| 03:32:26 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: it sounds really bad.... |
| 03:32:38 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: maybe evil forces are afoot |
| 03:33:21 | sorphin | cpenguin_home: maybe people just don't care, i dunno |
| 03:33:35 | cpenguin_home | sorphin: people don |
| 03:33:36 | sorphin | doesn't upgrade every time someone says there's a bug :P and i've never been r00ted |
| 03:34:04 | sorphin | not through ssh anyways, i had someone try way back in the day, through a BIND exploit |
| 03:34:08 | sorphin | caught em tho |
| 03:34:22 | cpenguin_home | Yeah, but the SSL exploit is a man in the middle account |
| 03:34:47 | sorphin | well |
| 03:35:01 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 03:35:01 | cpenguin_home | s/account/attack/ |
| 03:35:13 | sorphin | i've seen no traces mentioned, so i dunno |
| 03:35:25 | cpenguin_home | All I gotta say - don't send any sensitve information across SSL |
| 03:36:10 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:36:24 | sorphin | i don't have any sensitive info ;p |
| 03:36:51 | cpenguin_home | http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/Pine.BSO.4.33.0208031620550.8632-100000@moxie.thoughtcrime.org/2002-08-12/2002-08-18/0 |
| 03:38:00 | cpenguin_home | http://online.securityfocus.com/archive/1/286895/2002-08-05/2002-08-11/0 |
| 03:38:14 | sorphin | umm |
| 03:38:16 | sorphin | Affected Browsers |
| 03:38:16 | sorphin | Netscape 4.x and Mozilla are NOT vulnerable. |
| 03:38:16 | sorphin | IE 5 and 5.5 are vulnerable straight-up, and IE 6 is mostly vulnerable. |
| 03:38:27 | sorphin | is immune then ;p |
| 03:38:42 | cpenguin_home | is too |
| 03:38:57 | sorphin | ie is just a bad example of a browser |
| 03:39:07 | sorphin | tho, moz is a good example of bloat ;) |
| 03:39:11 | cpenguin_home | But for everyone one of us, there are 30,000 idiots out there with credit card numbers |
| 03:40:00 | sorphin | well, even if i was at risk |
| 03:40:06 | sorphin | don't have any damn $ anyways |
| 03:40:07 | sorphin | grins |
| 03:50:24 | cpenguin_home | All - tis time to go to bed |
| 03:50:42 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: see ya in the morning |
| 03:51:14 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: yep - I expect robot schmatics posted on /. no later that 10:00 AM |
| 03:51:16 | cpenguin_home | :) |
| 03:51:24 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: will do |
| 03:51:26 | cpenguin_home | bye |
| 03:53:48 | sorphin | prpplague: robot schems ? |
| 03:56:16 | prpplague | sorphin: my son has got it in his head that dad needs to build a bug robot like the one on spykids2...... |
| 05:12:27 | sorphin | re russ |
| 05:46:33 | sorphin | allo tim |
| 05:56:55 | sorphin | waits for russ' disconnect ;p |
| 05:57:07 | Russ | hmm? |
| 05:57:22 | sorphin | -:- SignOff Russ: #tuxscreen (Remote closed the connection) |
| 05:57:32 | sorphin | twice |
| 05:58:24 | Russ | ya, I'm playing with my r200 |
| 05:59:22 | sorphin | r200 ? |
| 05:59:28 | Russ | radeon 8500 |
| 05:59:36 | sorphin | ah |
| 06:00:29 | BZFlagIndia | ooh, somone killed chanserv |
| 06:00:46 | sorphin | BZFlagIndia: no shock there |
| 06:00:53 | sorphin | after all |
| 06:01:06 | sorphin | it is lilo, who akill's the whole network once every 6 months ;p |
| 06:01:07 | BZFlagIndia | heh |
| 06:01:19 | Russ | they are doing some rehubbing |
| 06:01:38 | sorphin | finds the "fundraising" lame, and the new name even worse |
| 06:01:53 | sorphin | BZFlagIndia: so how's india? |
| 06:02:06 | BZFlagIndia | quick /nick chanserv and see if lilo klines you |
| 06:02:32 | Russ | waits for someone to do it |
| 06:02:37 | sorphin | laughs |
| 06:02:39 | sorphin | you do it :P |
| 06:02:53 | sorphin | it likely won't even let you |
| 06:02:57 | sorphin | protected name i'm sure |
| 06:03:26 | sorphin | hahaha |
| 06:03:30 | sorphin | -:- chanserv Erroneous Nickname |
| 06:03:30 | sorphin | -:- Mode change [-e] for user sorphin |
| 06:03:30 | sorphin | >>> You(sorphin) are now known as chanserv_ |
| 06:03:35 | BZFlagIndia | India is fine. nice city, good food. traffic takes a bit to get used to. |
| 06:03:43 | sorphin | i knew it was protected |
| 06:04:08 | sorphin | so how long you still over there for ? |
| 06:06:15 | sorphin | Russ: :P |
| 06:06:26 | Russ | ya ya ya |
| 06:06:29 | Russ | now to try q3 |
| 06:06:41 | sorphin | try return to wolf ;) |
| 06:06:48 | Russ | I don't have it |
| 06:06:51 | sorphin | downloaded it at work, but the video in the main machine |
| 06:06:54 | sorphin | can't do GL |
| 06:07:17 | sorphin | should try it on his geforce |
| 06:09:49 | Russ | a little jerky...but when its not jerking, it seems to be making 140fps... |
| 06:10:48 | sorphin | nod |
| 07:02:11 | sorphin | Russ: cut it out and go to bed ;) |
| 07:02:44 | Russ | ya ya ya |
| 09:31:39 | WzDD | Hello. :) |
| 09:31:51 | WzDD | Anyone else experiencing segfaults while trying to start up pcmcia on 0.6? |
| 09:38:01 | WzDD | I guess not :) |
| 09:38:14 | sorphin | you forget you're in oz |
| 09:38:23 | sorphin | most people are still asleep in here ;p |
| 09:39:51 | WzDD | By the time I get to sleep they'll be waking up. :( |
| 09:39:59 | WzDD | Oh well, tomorrow afternoon maybe. :o |
| 09:40:10 | sorphin | maybe |
| 09:40:29 | sorphin | don't ask why i'm awake :P i don't know myself |
| 09:41:04 | WzDD | bah, everyone should be awake at ... what time is it? 2am? |
| 09:41:10 | sorphin | umm |
| 09:41:15 | sorphin | here it's 5:47am |
| 09:41:31 | WzDD | ah. Go to bed. :) |
| 09:41:58 | sorphin | tried before, couldn't sleep.. |
| 09:42:12 | WzDD | That sucks. :( |
| 09:42:16 | sorphin | so what part of oz you in.. |
| 09:42:28 | WzDD | Sydney |
| 09:42:42 | sorphin | ahh |
| 09:43:12 | sorphin | knows aussies from various areas |
| 09:43:45 | WzDD | what part of the US are you in? |
| 09:44:00 | sorphin | st louis, missouri (dead center) |
| 09:45:15 | WzDD | Cool. This OPN server reckons it's 2am, so it must be on one of the coasts |
| 09:46:00 | sorphin | which server is it? |
| 09:47:24 | WzDD | vinge. And now that I have a look at it, my host is apparently "kbs21.informatik.uni-bremen.de[kbs21.informatik.uni-bremen.de" which nicely explains the timezone ;-) |
| 09:48:03 | sorphin | ;) |
| 09:48:28 | sorphin | tho it's not 2am in germany |
| 09:48:43 | sorphin | .de is atleast 6-7 hours ahead of me |
| 09:49:04 | WzDD | Oh, okay... so it's just on crack then. :) |
| 09:49:06 | sorphin | so that'd be 2pm ;) |
| 09:49:21 | sorphin | WzDD: of course it is.. it's OPN^H^H^HFreeNode *smirk* |
| 09:50:06 | WzDD | haha :) |
| 13:13:23 | scanline | is away: going back to bed, for more sleep |
| 13:23:06 | prpplague | GPSFan: morning |
| 13:23:48 | GPSFan | Hi prpplague: how's Texas? this fine morning? |
| 13:24:42 | prpplague | GPSFan: hot and steamy, but overall its been the mildest summer in recorded history |
| 13:26:36 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 13:28:49 | file | everybody doing ok? |
| 13:28:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning dude |
| 13:29:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: started on your skunk yet? |
| 13:29:38 | file | rofl @ Windows 95 |
| 13:29:40 | file | my battery is at 99% and it says I have 0 minutes remaining |
| 13:29:59 | prpplague | file: m$ time |
| 13:30:05 | file | lol it's funny |
| 13:30:15 | file | oh well |
| 13:30:45 | file | what's everyone up to? |
| 13:31:46 | file | arg |
| 13:33:33 | file | pokes people |
| 13:34:35 | file | nobody alive? |
| 13:37:16 | WzDD | Hmm |
| 13:37:37 | WzDD | I just modprobed ppp on the tux and got an oops. :) |
| 13:38:16 | file | haha |
| 13:38:22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nope - just reading the mail |
| 13:38:48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I just upgraded the STB to a new kernel, and its not working, so I need to fix that first |
| 13:39:39 | prpplague | fun |
| 13:43:54 | file | prpplague : what's up? |
| 13:45:58 | file | disco dances |
| 13:48:00 | kergoth | hrm, anyone know off a patch for mkcramfs to use a device table? |
| 13:48:25 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I haven't heard of one |
| 13:48:50 | kergoth | me neither. time to make one then. |
| 13:49:01 | kergoth | I hate having to become root to create the devices in order to build a cramfs image. |
| 13:49:02 | kergoth | heh |
| 13:49:04 | CosmicPenguin | wants a device_table patch for mke2fs |
| 13:49:14 | kergoth | actually i heard someone did one for ext2 |
| 13:49:20 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: really? |
| 13:49:20 | kergoth | let me dig in my mailboxen |
| 13:49:22 | kergoth | heh |
| 13:49:24 | kergoth | yeah |
| 13:49:26 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: that would so cool |
| 13:49:29 | kergoth | dont remember who told me about it though |
| 13:49:44 | CosmicPenguin | would be happy if he didn't have to write his CF images as root |
| 13:51:42 | WzDD | hmm, okay, modprobing both ppp and pcmcia stuff from the 0.6 version produces an oops - has anyone else seen this? |
| 13:51:50 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: I'm pretty sure it was either andersee or tim riker who mentioned it. ask around. |
| 13:51:52 | WzDD | I get the feeling I did something wrong earlier on. :) |
| 13:53:01 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: ok.... I'll bet andersee is in bed right now, but I'll catch him later |
| 13:53:32 | file | does anybody have any old wireless networking stuff? |
| 13:53:35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: andersee never sleeps, he's an undead coding zombie |
| 13:53:38 | file | HomeFree? Proxim Symphony? |
| 13:53:44 | file | anything |
| 13:54:08 | file | is getting desperate |
| 13:55:07 | file | I'm on the verge of switching back to Windows 95! |
| 13:55:21 | prpplague | file: argh, never |
| 13:55:24 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: from genext2fs.c from the uclibc buildroot: "Erik Andersen <andersee@debian.org> added mkfs.jffs2 compatible device table support" |
| 13:56:02 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: so if you use that rather than mke2fs, thatd do it |
| 13:56:04 | kergoth | heh |
| 13:56:12 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: so its genext2fs.c from the uclibc buildroot.... |
| 13:57:02 | file | I can't stand this 14.4 modem! |
| 13:57:10 | file | I need my 56k from upstairs, must have wireless network! |
| 13:58:42 | file | crys |
| 13:58:43 | file | er |
| 13:58:45 | file | cries |
| 14:00:06 | file | just not my day |
| 14:13:19 | Nermal_Work | aw |
| 14:16:31 | file | I'm going shopping today I think |
| 14:17:20 | CosmicPenguin | tosses on some Widespread Panic |
| 14:17:40 | file | cries |
| 14:17:54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I know for a fact that andersee sleeps - I went to his house the other day and woke him up... :) |
| 14:20:17 | CosmicPenguin | is real sad that Playmates Toys stopped making DotPals |
| 14:21:16 | file | arg |
| 14:24:49 | prpplague | DotPals? |
| 14:25:48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: http://www.xmission.com |
| 14:25:50 | CosmicPenguin | Oops |
| 14:25:54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: http://www.xmission.com/~cpenguin/ |
| 14:27:26 | file | scary |
| 14:28:16 | file | is tempted to buy this parallel stuff, but he can't find the drivers |
| 14:28:40 | Nermal_Work | hmm ? |
| 14:28:52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cute |
| 14:28:57 | file | parallel wireless networking |
| 14:29:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i need a Milton from OfficeSpace dotpal |
| 14:30:25 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: they were going to make a bart, and a dilbert dotpal, but they canned the project |
| 14:32:10 | file | aha! NT4 drivers! |
| 15:05:19 | legodude_ | has a perverse desire to run NT4 on non-intel machines |
| 15:05:42 | file | your crazy |
| 15:05:49 | legodude_ | nah |
| 15:05:55 | legodude_ | nt4 on ppc would 0wn |
| 15:05:58 | legodude_ | so cool |
| 15:06:23 | legodude_ | and solaris on PPC |
| 15:06:27 | legodude_ | that would be so cool too |
| 15:08:17 | | OK, CosmicPenguin. |
| 15:08:17 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: have you heard - you are in violation of a patent... :) |
| 15:08:23 | CosmicPenguin | Oops |
| 15:08:28 | legodude_ | hehe |
| 15:08:28 | | i heard i was "the" bot around |
| 15:08:28 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: ibot? |
| 15:08:32 | legodude_ | he is? |
| 15:08:34 | CosmicPenguin | what is ibot? |
| 15:08:45 | | it has been said that i am "the" bot around |
| 15:08:45 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: what is ibot? |
| 15:08:53 | | i am "the" bot around |
| 15:08:53 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: you? |
| 15:09:01 | CosmicPenguin | Whew... :) |
| 15:09:08 | WzDD | Night all. :) |
| 15:20:58 | Nermal_Work | lol |
| 15:49:41 | file | !!!!!!! |
| 15:49:43 | file | does htis mean???? |
| 15:49:44 | file | er this |
| 15:50:04 | file | wonders |
| 15:51:05 | | no idea, andersee |
| 15:51:05 | andersee | ibot: did you know you are patented? |
| 15:51:28 | | andersee: sorry... |
| 15:51:28 | andersee | ibot: I'm afraid you will need to pay royalties now. |
| 15:51:40 | | andersee: what? |
| 15:51:40 | andersee | ibot: Me too. Its a shame |
| 15:51:55 | | andersee: i'm not following you... |
| 15:51:55 | andersee | ibot: That you need to pay royalties now. |
| 15:52:32 | | andersee: i'm not following you... |
| 15:52:32 | andersee | ibot: Of course not. Because you have paid your licensing fee. |
| 15:56:22 | Russ | legodude_: nt on anything isn't cool...its like saying it'd be cool to put polyester on everyone |
| 15:56:41 | | OK, Russ. |
| 15:56:41 | Russ | ibot: ALL YOUR IP ARE BELONG TO US! |
| 15:58:03 | file | pokes Russ |
| 15:58:09 | Russ | bad day file? |
| 15:58:20 | file | a bit |
| 15:58:55 | file | I want a wireless network, but it's... looking bleak |
| 15:59:04 | Russ | why, because NT is involved? |
| 15:59:10 | file | yes |
| 15:59:19 | file | no drivers available for what I wanted |
| 15:59:32 | Russ | get some cheap linksys access points and do mixed (NT machine(s) on ethernet with AP) |
| 15:59:46 | file | I want a wireless network for about $30 USD :p |
| 16:00:08 | Russ | oh, you are looking at big speakers hooked to old modems |
| 16:00:09 | file | can get it... but it's parallel |
| 16:00:29 | Russ | all the computers commmunicating at 300 baud audibly |
| 16:01:14 | Russ | why get 802.11b when you can just make the computers yell at eachother |
| 16:01:20 | file | :) |
| 16:01:51 | file | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2044992334 |
| 16:01:53 | file | that's it |
| 16:05:02 | file | Russ: are you laughing at me behind my back? |
| 16:09:54 | Russ | file: no, we have a channel setup for that |
| 16:10:01 | file | Russ: ic |
| 16:10:23 | file | Russ: what's your opinion on what I posted? |
| 16:11:49 | Russ | parallel ports are *slow* (12KB/s) |
| 16:12:00 | file | is on a 56k modem |
| 16:12:52 | file | so I don't need speed |
| 16:15:09 | file | Russ: any other opinions? |
| 16:15:35 | legodude_ | those are poor file |
| 16:15:38 | legodude_ | look for reviews |
| 16:15:40 | legodude_ | no good |
| 16:15:55 | file | legodude_ : I don't need range or speed |
| 16:17:32 | file | legodude_ : any other suggestions? |
| 16:18:10 | file | I've heard good things about the Proximy Symphony Wireless cards and stuff |
| 16:20:18 | file | haven't been able to find it with a PC card and ISA Card... |
| 16:20:48 | legodude_ | file: well, you won't get either range or speed with those cards |
| 16:20:58 | legodude_ | I'd just get real 802.11b stuff |
| 16:21:06 | legodude_ | you can do it for like $70 for two comps |
| 16:21:08 | file | I don't need range or speed LOL |
| 16:21:29 | file | I'm on a 56k modem and just want to be able to surf from my bed or living room |
| 16:21:35 | legodude_ | but then again, I also hate all things parallel port with a passion |
| 16:21:39 | legodude_ | why not just run cable? |
| 16:22:01 | file | legodude: parents won't let me |
| 16:22:07 | legodude | just do it |
| 16:22:16 | legodude | wait one day when they are away |
| 16:22:17 | legodude | and do it |
| 16:22:25 | legodude | I've run tons of fiber and cable that way |
| 16:22:30 | file | I haven't the CAT5 to do it |
| 16:22:33 | file | or the know how |
| 16:22:38 | legodude | dude |
| 16:22:47 | legodude | cat5 is cheap and easy to get |
| 16:22:50 | legodude | the knowhow is nothing |
| 16:23:24 | legodude | or get those things that work over the phoneline |
| 16:23:40 | file | would still prefer wireless |
| 16:23:52 | legodude | save up and go for 802.11b |
| 16:24:05 | file | with ISA? |
| 16:24:51 | file | and btw, 802.11b here would run me about $350 |
| 16:25:04 | file | that's for a wireless router and pcmcia card |
| 16:25:59 | legodude | um |
| 16:26:08 | legodude | you have a machine with isa only? |
| 16:26:19 | file | Canada sucks for getting stuff... |
| 16:26:30 | legodude | you can get isa-pc card converters for like $5 on ebay |
| 16:26:38 | legodude | and then two cards will run you $40/piece |
| 16:26:49 | file | yes |
| 16:26:54 | file | my main machine is ISA only |
| 16:27:03 | legodude | wow |
| 16:27:06 | legodude | wow |
| 16:27:25 | file | PCMCIA cards are $90 here, on sale at that |
| 16:27:39 | legodude | order from the US |
| 16:27:46 | file | then I have to pay customs |
| 16:27:49 | file | pkus shipping |
| 16:28:09 | legodude | should be cheaper than $90 |
| 16:28:11 | file | er plus |
| 16:28:19 | legodude | if you get ebay you don't have to pay customs |
| 16:28:29 | file | legodude: how much did you say for it? |
| 16:28:33 | file | yes I do |
| 16:28:38 | file | I have to pay customs on anything entering |
| 16:28:52 | legodude | not if they mark it as a gift with value of $5 |
| 16:28:58 | legodude | then customs is nothing |
| 16:29:05 | legodude | file: say for what? |
| 16:29:12 | file | the PCMCIA cards |
| 16:29:19 | file | that only applies if I ship USPS |
| 16:29:20 | legodude | I've seen them as low as $40 |
| 16:29:25 | file | if I send UPS or Fedex I have to pay brokerage |
| 16:29:40 | file | it sucks... |
| 16:29:51 | legodude | I thought sender paid that |
| 16:30:28 | file | no |
| 16:30:36 | file | UPS sends with a COD |
| 16:30:46 | legodude | ahso |
| 16:30:51 | file | my Cybiko Xtreme had a $42.45 brokerage charge attached to it last time |
| 16:30:55 | file | and shipping was $20 USD |
| 16:31:14 | legodude | wow |
| 16:31:16 | legodude | that's nuts |
| 16:31:35 | file | yes |
| 16:32:56 | file | ooh I found something |
| 16:33:08 | legodude | wha? |
| 16:33:40 | file | Acer WarpLink |
| 16:33:52 | legodude | I think that's better than the other thing you showed me |
| 16:34:07 | legodude | it's been a while since I researched it though |
| 16:34:09 | file | probably |
| 16:34:32 | file | is very tempted to get it |
| 16:34:33 | legodude | http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00006412C/dealnewscom/104-9119878-2155167 |
| 16:34:36 | legodude | really now |
| 16:34:39 | legodude | how can you go wrong |
| 16:34:43 | legodude | $35 |
| 16:34:51 | file | what's that? |
| 16:34:58 | legodude | 802.11b card |
| 16:35:03 | file | oh ic |
| 16:35:08 | file | ship to Canada? |
| 16:35:17 | legodude | it's amazon so I assume they would |
| 16:35:44 | legodude | you should check www.dealnews.com |
| 16:35:46 | file | I doubt it |
| 16:35:52 | legodude | they've had stuff like access points for $60 |
| 16:35:55 | file | I've found that Amazon rarely sends to Canada |
| 16:35:58 | file | Amazon.com that is |
| 16:36:57 | file | oh oh oh |
| 16:37:03 | file | this Acer WarpLink supports NT4!!!! |
| 16:37:36 | legodude | you use nt4? |
| 16:37:44 | file | yes |
| 16:37:48 | file | on my main machine |
| 16:37:51 | legodude | why? |
| 16:37:54 | legodude | what's the system? |
| 16:37:55 | file | NT4 with Service Pack 6a |
| 16:38:08 | file | it's a 486 with 133MHz, 64mb of RAM |
| 16:38:17 | file | why? because it's more stable than 95 |
| 16:38:29 | legodude | I remember back in the day when I got it just after it came out from MS |
| 16:39:00 | legodude | my dad got me 3.51, then I got nt4 server |
| 16:39:01 | file | I use Workstation |
| 16:39:03 | file | Server was tempting though |
| 16:39:17 | legodude | I got it for free by attending a MS presentation thing |
| 16:39:20 | legodude | and all sorts of dev tools |
| 16:39:35 | file | I got it from a warez site lol |
| 16:41:22 | file | I can buy this wireless thing for $25 |
| 16:42:02 | file | it's so tempting |
| 16:43:08 | file | I should get it |
| 16:43:18 | legodude | what's the link? |
| 16:43:34 | file | 56% like it |
| 16:43:39 | file | http://computers.cnet.com/hardware/0-7054-404-132639.html |
| 16:43:49 | file | that's for a review |
| 16:45:00 | Russ|werk | file: if you only need it for 56k, parallel port is fine |
| 16:45:10 | file | Russ|werk: I found a nicer solution |
| 16:45:12 | Russ|werk | file: if you want to transfer files, it sucks |
| 16:45:38 | file | I don't transfer files alot |
| 16:47:41 | file | http://www.compuvisor.com/acwarcommobp.html |
| 16:58:06 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 17:01:05 | Nermal | lo |
| 17:09:22 | prpplague | as_: evening there |
| 17:09:31 | prpplague | as_: hows life in the UK today? |
| 17:09:56 | bhima | still tuxscreens left? wow. |
| 17:10:05 | file | wb prpplague |
| 17:10:43 | bhima | waves at file |
| 17:12:14 | file | what's up? |
| 17:12:30 | bhima | is trying to decide how to do a new dashboard for his car. |
| 17:12:43 | bhima | and, is it just me, or is a fake woodgrain IR keyboard a very, very wrong thing? |
| 17:14:25 | Xenoc | hahaha |
| 17:14:35 | Xenoc | I'd say that's pretty wrong ;) |
| 17:14:43 | bhima | the guy at dashpc.com did that. |
| 17:14:50 | bhima | his car computer is woodgrain. |
| 17:14:51 | Xenoc | but I'm not a fan of woodgrain to start with ;) |
| 17:14:54 | bhima | along with its keyboard. |
| 17:15:06 | bhima | my new vehicle, a saturn wagon, has two areas with slight woodgrain. |
| 17:15:08 | Xenoc | are you embedding a tuxscreen in your dash? |
| 17:15:28 | bhima | one of them will be entirely replaced, the other I will probably deal with as well. |
| 17:15:44 | bhima | of course. A dashbaord seems like the perfect place for a tuxscreen... |
| 17:15:56 | Xenoc | heh. that's what I'm doing too |
| 17:16:03 | bhima | excellent. |
| 17:16:05 | Xenoc | but I honestly haven't figured out where to put it yet. |
| 17:16:17 | bhima | ahh. see. my Golf wouldn't let me do that very easily. |
| 17:16:25 | bhima | the saturn is much, much eaiser to work with. |
| 17:16:42 | bhima | ie: double DIN enclosure, and the entire center console is easy to remove. |
| 17:16:52 | Xenoc | my car is easy to work with, just... small. |
| 17:17:04 | bhima | for bonus points, it doesn't even aesthetically fit in with the rest of the car, so I can easily make it look better :) |
| 17:18:00 | bhima | (the Toyota Matrix, or Ford Focus, for example, both have lots of deliberate sytlistic features that would make it hard for me to make my design fit in right. The Saturn looks fine, but that part of it is just rather boring) |
| 17:18:35 | Xenoc | heh |
| 17:18:43 | Xenoc | mine's a Miata |
| 17:18:48 | Xenoc | it's practicly the definition of "small" |
| 17:19:34 | bhima | it's cute though. |
| 17:19:59 | Xenoc | not the adjective I'd choose, but ok. =) |
| 17:20:06 | bhima | I was surprised when I recently saw a Hyundai Tiburan(sp?). I think it's better looking than the Audi TT. |
| 17:20:26 | Xenoc | the 2002 Tiburon is pretty slick |
| 17:20:52 | bhima | yeah. I saw an older one and it looked...unimpressive. |
| 17:21:09 | Xenoc | yeah |
| 17:21:10 | bhima | www.ibistek.com |
| 17:21:17 | Xenoc | the 2002 is a complete rework |
| 17:21:19 | bhima | that, of course, is the ultimate vehicle. |
| 19:36:38 | prpplague | bhima: ha i just bought a 2002 tiburon for my wife |
| 19:37:19 | prpplague | bhima: we had a 1997 model, although it ran very nice, the 2002 is much more impressive |
| 19:39:05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wahoo, signature capture is now complete and out of my office! |
| 19:41:06 | bhima | cute. the older ones I've seen on the road looked rather boring and a bit odd. I almost bought a Kia minivan, but saturn convinced me. 0% financing, plus a nice dashboard. |
| 19:43:48 | prpplague | bhima: lol |
| 19:47:50 | file | prpplague : congrats |
| 20:03:40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: good job |
| 20:05:49 | CosmicPenguin | has been bitten by the FVWM bug |
| 20:07:27 | scanline | is back (gone 06:54:04) |
| 20:21:43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: really? |
| 20:24:24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep |
| 20:27:35 | CosmicPenguin | In fact, I have to restart X here to get the full effect |
| 20:27:35 | CosmicPenguin | brb |
| 20:30:11 | CosmicPenguin | mmm..... better |
| 20:39:53 | CosmicPenguin | Hacking FVWM for fun and profit |
| 20:41:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, help me out here, i'm having a brain cramp |
| 20:42:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got bb on a system, i try to ping or telnet to a host name, and i get a resolver error, what have i missed? |
| 20:42:12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: glibc right? |
| 20:42:24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: checklist |
| 20:42:36 | CosmicPenguin | resolv.conf |
| 20:42:40 | CosmicPenguin | :q |
| 20:42:44 | CosmicPenguin | oops... sorry |
| 20:42:56 | CosmicPenguin | nsswitch.conf |
| 20:43:27 | CosmicPenguin | some combination of libnss_* (files, dns, nis, whatever) |
| 20:44:05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i thought i compiled bb with support for those...., let me double check |
| 20:44:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks |
| 20:44:29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: BB should have nothing to do with that... thats a library issue |
| 20:45:01 | CosmicPenguin | ie, gethostbyname() in glibc actually uses nsswitch.conf to figure out which libnss_* library to use |
| 20:45:03 | CosmicPenguin | Its ugly |
| 20:45:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh thats right....., let me double check that lib |
| 20:45:58 | bhima | micro ITX systems look interesting. |
| 20:46:05 | CosmicPenguin | has been tripped up by that often |
| 20:52:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, libnsl is 350k |
| 20:54:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I didn't think you needed libnsl |
| 20:54:42 | CosmicPenguin | my STB currently has libnss_dns*, libnss_files*, libnss1_dns*, and libnss1_files* |
| 20:55:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: see all i need is support for read the host table |
| 21:00:20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, somehow my rootfs buildscript got hosed, it grabed libs from two different builds |
| 21:07:17 | switchcat | greetings |
| 21:24:58 | CosmicPenguin | switchcat: hola |
| 21:27:06 | Russ|werk | heh, I have a load average of nearly 6 |
| 21:30:01 | prpplague | Russ|werk: what are ya doing? |
| 21:30:16 | Russ|werk | recompiling about 6 debian packages at the same time |
| 21:31:01 | Russ|werk | I'm up to about 8 now |
| 21:31:05 | Russ|werk | still responsive |
| 21:31:50 | prpplague | Russ|werk: we had the quad up to around 8 last week |
| 21:34:29 | Russ|werk | thats a lot of work that machine was doing |
| 21:35:06 | prpplague | Russ|werk: almost 800 users |
| 21:41:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: any idea what the purpose of the catching signals in the bb vi is for? |
| 21:42:12 | prpplague | oops gotta run, bbl |
| 21:42:26 | CosmicPenguin | Wow |
| 21:42:28 | CosmicPenguin | bye |
| 22:33:49 | scanline | is away: also going to the grocery store |
| 22:44:40 | Xenoc | anyone know (if you can?) to clock the tuxscreen to 206mhz with Linux? |
| 22:47:21 | ][N-Flux | it's clock up to 196 I belive |
| 22:47:27 | ][N-Flux | which is pretty close |
| 22:49:20 | Xenoc | how do I go about doing that though? |
| 23:00:23 | file | hello all |
| 23:12:03 | Russ|werk | it'll clock to 206MHz |
| 23:12:16 | Russ|werk | you just need to change the memory/flash timings a little |
| 23:12:25 | Russ|werk | itlle probably go to 226MHz as well |
| 23:27:14 | cpenguin_home | evening |
| 23:27:37 | sorphin | it runs fine at 206, but i only know how to set it to that w/ the shan loader |
| 23:27:42 | file | hello CosmicPenguin_at_home |
| 23:28:29 | sorphin | eek, it's file ;p |
| 23:29:13 | cpenguin_home | 'ello file |
| 23:30:53 | file | is somewhat busy so he won't bother sorphin |
| 23:31:28 | sorphin | laughs |
| 23:34:40 | cpenguin_home | starts work on a remote procmail.rc editor |
| 23:38:01 | scanline | is back (gone 01:04:12) |
| 23:42:12 | Russ|werk | sorphin: oh, in inferno? |
| 23:42:24 | sorphin | actually, before inferno |
| 23:42:28 | sorphin | the shan loader |
| 23:42:34 | sorphin | you hit whatever keys |
| 23:42:42 | sorphin | and it throws it into 206 mode for "demos" |
| 23:49:44 | sorphin | evenin prp |
| 23:49:45 | cpenguin_home | prpplague!! |
| 23:53:10 | cpenguin_home | is away: mmmmm.... dinner |
| 23:55:18 | prpplague | cpenguin_home! |
| 23:55:39 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: anything good for dinner? |