| 00:02:32 | scanline | is away: food or something |
| 00:36:17 | Sammy | morning all |
| 00:37:34 | sorphin | something like that |
| 00:39:08 | sorphin | sup? |
| 01:34:18 | Xenoc | I'm in the middle of installing blob on my tuxscreen, and I'm really hoping I didn't just brick it |
| 01:34:29 | Xenoc | anyone around that could maybe help me out? |
| 01:34:48 | file | what did you do |
| 01:34:55 | file | prays for Xenoc |
| 01:34:59 | Xenoc | I unprotected the flash, as in the instructions, |
| 01:35:07 | Xenoc | did P/m with the 12v NOT connected, |
| 01:35:14 | Xenoc | everything showed 0's |
| 01:35:25 | Xenoc | and I just did "c D!blob F!all" |
| 01:35:36 | Xenoc | the tuxscreen showed the progress up to 31908, the very end |
| 01:35:40 | file | well I'm not the person to talk to unfortunately |
| 01:35:46 | Xenoc | but I'm not getting the output that the wiki says I should |
| 01:35:59 | Xenoc | did you do yours? |
| 01:36:05 | file | mmmm Russ? |
| 01:36:10 | file | Xenoc: I don't have a Tuxscreen |
| 01:36:14 | Xenoc | crosses his fingers and prays hard |
| 01:36:16 | Xenoc | *nods* |
| 01:36:27 | Russ | yes? |
| 01:36:37 | file | Russ: assist Xenoc |
| 01:36:47 | Xenoc | the wiki says I should get "flash: 0-7fff: erasing/writing... flash: erasing boot area! (0-7fff)", which I did, |
| 01:36:58 | Russ | Xenoc: are you running minicom at 115200 8N1, no flow control? |
| 01:37:02 | Xenoc | but it says it should be followed by "<58?><terminal mode> " or "<7c?><terminal mode>" |
| 01:37:06 | Xenoc | but I got nothing. |
| 01:37:07 | Russ | and have you powered the unit off and back on? |
| 01:37:14 | Xenoc | I haven't gotten to that part yet |
| 01:37:21 | Xenoc | I'm just flashing blob onto it |
| 01:37:42 | Russ | to see blob's output, you need minicom at 115200 8N1, no flow control |
| 01:37:52 | Xenoc | this isn't blob's output. |
| 01:37:55 | Xenoc | this is running inferno |
| 01:37:58 | Xenoc | on my linux machine |
| 01:38:04 | Xenoc | and putting blob -on- the tuxscreen. |
| 01:38:09 | Russ | right, you flash blob with inferno |
| 01:38:16 | Xenoc | right, that's what I'm doing. |
| 01:38:16 | Russ | and once blob is flashed, you need minicom |
| 01:38:21 | Xenoc | yes, I know =) |
| 01:38:24 | Russ | brb, rebooting |
| 01:38:26 | Xenoc | but |
| 01:38:34 | Xenoc | I'm not 100% sure blob is on there. |
| 01:38:35 | file | Xenoc: let me find someone else |
| 01:38:42 | Xenoc | because I didn't get the expected output. |
| 01:38:46 | Xenoc | =/ |
| 01:38:49 | Xenoc | thanks file |
| 01:39:00 | Xenoc | I'm tempted to just reboot it |
| 01:39:00 | file | sorphin? |
| 01:39:11 | file | andersee? |
| 01:39:12 | Xenoc | cuz I don't think there's really anything I can do at this point if it didn't work. |
| 01:39:13 | file | kergoth? |
| 01:39:22 | andersee | file: yo |
| 01:39:32 | kergoth | whats up |
| 01:39:37 | file | andersee: Xenoc is having problems with flashing Blob |
| 01:39:42 | Xenoc | wow, 2 for 3, that's pretty good. |
| 01:39:50 | Xenoc | I wouldn't say I'm having problems... =) |
| 01:39:51 | file | Xenoc: thanks |
| 01:39:56 | Xenoc | I don't know if there's a problem or not ;) |
| 01:39:59 | file | hehe |
| 01:40:09 | file | he didn't get what he expected when doing part of the procedure |
| 01:40:55 | file | hello? |
| 01:41:17 | andersee | which version of blob? |
| 01:41:22 | Xenoc | 0.6 |
| 01:41:25 | andersee | cvs? or a pre-compiled one |
| 01:41:37 | Xenoc | the 31k one from the v0.6 directory |
| 01:42:21 | file | wb Russ |
| 01:42:45 | Xenoc | I got the "flash: 0-7fff: erasing/writing... flash: erasing boot area! (0-7fff)" message, but nothing after that |
| 01:43:02 | Russ | so,does inferno still boot? |
| 01:43:12 | file | Russ: andersee is assisting him |
| 01:43:13 | Xenoc | the wiki page says I can expect something like "<7c?><terminal mode>" after that, but I didn't get it. |
| 01:43:21 | Xenoc | I haven't tried rebooting it yet |
| 01:43:49 | Xenoc | I was half-wondering if I had to let it sit for a minute before that last message came up |
| 01:43:51 | andersee | Nah, Russ go ahead... |
| 01:44:04 | andersee | is terribly busy this evening... |
| 01:44:19 | Xenoc | should I just press reset.. ? |
| 01:44:26 | Russ | so if inferno doesn't come up, why not see if blob comes up? |
| 01:44:41 | file | hey Cosmic |
| 01:44:46 | file | er CosmicPenguin |
| 01:44:54 | Xenoc | is a wrecked boot-area fixable with a JTAG? |
| 01:45:03 | file | yes |
| 01:45:05 | Xenoc | or is it a permanent brick? |
| 01:45:07 | Xenoc | ok, cool. |
| 01:45:13 | file | a JTAG will fix it all! |
| 01:45:14 | Xenoc | I'm sure I can find one in town to borrow then. |
| 01:45:19 | file | hehe |
| 01:45:21 | Xenoc | here goes the reset. |
| 01:45:30 | Xenoc | crosses his fingers and prays to every god he can think og |
| 01:45:48 | file | Xenoc: a JTAG just allows you to reflash blob if you screw it up somehow |
| 01:46:01 | Xenoc | *phew* |
| 01:46:02 | file | so that you can't do it the other way |
| 01:46:05 | Xenoc | I think it worked. |
| 01:46:18 | file | doesn't even own a Tuxscreen and he knows this stuff |
| 01:46:30 | Xenoc | not seeing anything on the tuxscreen, but the serial console is showing stuff that looks good. |
| 01:46:33 | file | Xenoc: Congrats on getting rid of Inferno. |
| 01:46:42 | Xenoc | Infernal? |
| 01:47:07 | file | that Infernal piece of, er I mean such a nice Tuxscreen |
| 01:47:13 | Xenoc | ;) |
| 01:47:35 | file | can you imagine no love deep fried chicken |
| 01:47:41 | file | your best friend always sticking up for you |
| 01:47:44 | file | even when I know your wrong |
| 01:47:48 | file | hums |
| 01:47:49 | Xenoc | installs minicom |
| 01:47:55 | Xenoc | love that song ;) |
| 01:48:05 | file | as do I |
| 01:48:13 | Xenoc | listening to Beatles now though |
| 01:48:19 | file | ic |
| 01:48:23 | file | next I hit Swollen Members |
| 01:48:26 | file | then Our Lady Peace |
| 01:48:40 | Xenoc | sounds like a nice playlist |
| 01:48:42 | file | and then!!!! BED! |
| 01:48:45 | Xenoc | heh |
| 01:48:49 | file | technically I'm there though |
| 01:49:31 | file | bring's it home... we do it up and bring it home |
| 01:49:36 | file | and Moka Only always brings it home |
| 01:49:44 | file | we built a foundation brick by brick |
| 01:49:48 | file | eye by eye, keep your eye on this |
| 01:50:07 | file | thought he heard a phone... guess not |
| 01:50:37 | file | Xenoc: did it work??? |
| 01:51:10 | Xenoc | well, yay for getting a blob prompt =) |
| 01:51:15 | Xenoc | blob> |
| 01:51:16 | file | cheers |
| 01:51:53 | file | yawns |
| 01:51:56 | file | midnight in 3 minutes. |
| 01:55:03 | Xenoc | does "CCCCC...." mean it's doing the xmodem upload? |
| 01:55:14 | file | unknown |
| 01:55:19 | file | PSST, Russ? |
| 02:01:26 | Xenoc | hmm. minicom doesn't seem to be sending the file. |
| 02:02:54 | file | :( |
| 02:04:28 | Sammy | Xenoc : are you donwloading the kernel or ramdisk ? |
| 02:05:35 | Xenoc | ramdisk with kernel. |
| 02:05:43 | Xenoc | minicom doesn't seem to be working, as far as sending goes. |
| 02:07:39 | Xenoc | heh, got it working. |
| 02:07:44 | CosmicPenguin | Whew.... |
| 02:07:53 | Xenoc | my minicom package had a dependancy, and wasn't giving any errors *rolls eyes* |
| 02:10:12 | file | coke before bed, means a good night ahead |
| 02:11:59 | CosmicPenguin | file: coca cola??? :) |
| 02:12:07 | file | ;) |
| 02:14:23 | MonMotha | remind me to change my ipv6 IP to 1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a |
| 02:14:50 | sorphin | MonMotha: change my ipv6 IP to 1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a |
| 02:14:53 | sorphin | ;) |
| 02:15:18 | MonMotha | not yours, mine |
| 02:15:26 | sorphin | MonMotha: change you ipv6 IP to 1ce:c01d:c0ca:c01a |
| 02:15:28 | sorphin | +r |
| 02:15:29 | sorphin | then |
| 02:15:55 | MonMotha | heh |
| 02:16:05 | Xenoc | is that acctually a valid ipv6 address? |
| 02:16:09 | sorphin | yes |
| 02:16:15 | Xenoc | heh, slick. |
| 02:16:27 | Xenoc | I don't know how ipv6 addressing works |
| 02:16:32 | sorphin | nod.. |
| 02:18:15 | Xenoc | doh |
| 02:18:42 | Xenoc | I xdownloaded the ramdisk, did "flash ramdisk", "boot" and it just sat there "starting kernel" =/ |
| 02:18:43 | file | is selling turtle - anybody want it? |
| 02:18:57 | Xenoc | file: chocolate or biological? |
| 02:19:06 | file | it's the name of a computer of mine |
| 02:19:14 | file | it's a Pentium 75MHz laptop that runs at hyperspeed |
| 02:19:14 | Xenoc | heh |
| 02:19:19 | sorphin | Xenoc: oops ;p |
| 02:19:21 | Xenoc | raises an eyebrow |
| 02:19:23 | file | 8MB of RAM, 250mb hardrive, color screen |
| 02:19:29 | Xenoc | "hyperspeed"? |
| 02:19:37 | Xenoc | sorphin: did I do something wrong? |
| 02:19:47 | file | Xenoc: well - a second to us is 5 seconds to it |
| 02:19:55 | file | so the clock goes by real fast :) |
| 02:19:59 | Xenoc | lol |
| 02:20:10 | sorphin | <Xenoc> I xdownloaded the ramdisk, did "flash ramdisk", "boot" and it just sat |
| 02:20:10 | sorphin | there "starting kernel" =/ |
| 02:20:35 | MonMotha | Xenoc: actually, it's not a valid ipv6 address |
| 02:20:38 | MonMotha | it's not long enough ) |
| 02:20:40 | file | you could fashion it into a picture thingy, it has an onboard microphone so you could use voice recognition |
| 02:20:54 | Xenoc | file: color lcds can always find a use. ;) |
| 02:21:04 | sorphin | MonMotha: aww.. why'd you tell him ;p |
| 02:21:06 | file | exactly |
| 02:21:08 | Xenoc | sorphin: yeah... is there something wrong in that sequence? |
| 02:21:12 | file | yells out "MAKE AN OFFER!" |
| 02:21:17 | Russ | has new computer hardware, but needs a 3rd udma66 cable |
| 02:21:23 | Russ | file: $12! |
| 02:21:30 | Xenoc | heh, I need a udma66 controler ;) |
| 02:21:38 | file | Russ: wow - thanks! |
| 02:22:00 | Xenoc | $15! |
| 02:22:06 | file | Xenoc: even better |
| 02:22:08 | Xenoc | do I hear $20... $20 anybody.. |
| 02:22:19 | Xenoc | who's gonna make it $20 |
| 02:22:36 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:22:39 | Xenoc | $15... going once... do I hear $20... $20 folks.. |
| 02:23:07 | file | the LCD is in prime condition! |
| 02:23:11 | file | might even be TFT! |
| 02:23:12 | CosmicPenguin | wants more processors for a cluster, but thats pushing it |
| 02:23:18 | Xenoc | sorphin: so I'm xdownloading it again, did I have the process right? |
| 02:23:34 | sorphin | Xenoc: yeah, i was oopsing at it being stuck |
| 02:23:37 | file | I accept all major credit cards, and your checking account! |
| 02:23:47 | Xenoc | sorphin: *nods* ok, thanks |
| 02:24:03 | Xenoc | I just had a bit of trouble trying to distil the information from the webpage |
| 02:24:17 | MonMotha | what are we bidding on? :) |
| 02:24:30 | file | MonMotha: a Pentium 75MHz laptop with no physical case |
| 02:24:33 | file | oh - and no floppy drive |
| 02:24:38 | Xenoc | file: hahaha, no case? =D |
| 02:24:45 | MonMotha | hah |
| 02:24:48 | file | Xenoc: it's mounted on a binder |
| 02:24:50 | Xenoc | what did you do to that poor thing? =) |
| 02:24:55 | MonMotha | only worthy part is the darned lcd |
| 02:24:57 | file | Xenoc: I got it like this! |
| 02:25:00 | Xenoc | a binder... omg... rofl |
| 02:25:04 | MonMotha | and being that old it's probably not very good |
| 02:25:06 | file | MonMotha: uh, it does work - and it runs Linux |
| 02:25:09 | Xenoc | I think that's one of the funniest things I've heard in a while =) |
| 02:25:17 | file | I have a picture somewhere... |
| 02:25:22 | MonMotha | I like my laptops portable |
| 02:25:31 | sorphin | MonMotha: i think they're bidding on how much to pay for a date for file ;p |
| 02:25:42 | file | 1 moment |
| 02:25:49 | file | screams |
| 02:26:02 | Xenoc | if he needs a date half as bad as I do, I'll ante-up the price to $20 ;) |
| 02:26:04 | MonMotha | heh |
| 02:26:18 | file | http://navi.picogui.org/joshnet.4755/pics/Turtle.jpg |
| 02:26:20 | file | that's turtle! |
| 02:26:40 | sorphin | MonMotha: i still have to delegate my damn /64 |
| 02:26:57 | Xenoc | file: nice ;) |
| 02:27:11 | file | smiles |
| 02:27:31 | Xenoc | gah. |
| 02:27:35 | Xenoc | didn't work again |
| 02:27:54 | file | http://navi.picogui.org/joshnet.4755/pics/Droid.jpg |
| 02:27:57 | file | that's my messy workstation |
| 02:28:00 | Xenoc | ramdisk (0x00020000): downloaded at 0xd0000000, 3407872 bytes |
| 02:28:03 | Xenoc | MD5: 7ee1adcda0947b9f5c1cb82f3d611747 |
| 02:29:41 | file | anyway |
| 02:29:42 | file | I'm soon going |
| 02:30:33 | file | goodnight all |
| 02:30:54 | sorphin | Xenoc: you're downloading it as ramdisk too right ? |
| 02:32:32 | CosmicPenguin | geez, Keith Packard gets all the fun, doesn't he? |
| 02:33:35 | sorphin | cosmic_work: eh? |
| 02:34:01 | Xenoc | sorphin: "xdownload ramdisk" ? |
| 02:34:27 | sorphin | yup |
| 02:34:39 | Xenoc | Loading blob from flash . done |
| 02:34:44 | Xenoc | *** unable to find kernel, loading raw data and hoping for the best! |
| 02:34:46 | sorphin | xdownload does have usage info :) |
| 02:35:15 | Xenoc | yeah, well I downloaded, and flashed |
| 02:35:22 | Xenoc | but "kernel" is still, blank? |
| 02:35:29 | Xenoc | but it's got the same address as ramdisk |
| 02:35:45 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:35:52 | sorphin | what file are you downloading? ;p |
| 02:36:04 | Xenoc | 20020501.jffs2 |
| 02:36:09 | Xenoc | from v0.6 |
| 02:36:16 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:36:41 | Xenoc | hmm. |
| 02:36:59 | Xenoc | after power-cycling, "status" doesn't show ramdisk as having anything in it anymore |
| 02:37:23 | sorphin | xdownload ramdisk flash ramdisk |
| 02:37:32 | Xenoc | yes. that's what I did. |
| 02:37:41 | Xenoc | 3 times. |
| 02:37:53 | sorphin | and which blob version? |
| 02:38:11 | Xenoc | 2.0.5-pre3 |
| 02:38:59 | sorphin | blob-20020709 09-Jul-2002 02:28 31k |
| 02:39:02 | sorphin | taht one ? |
| 02:39:08 | Xenoc | yep |
| 02:39:29 | sorphin | hmm |
| 02:39:44 | sorphin | worked fine for me when i did it... i dunno.. |
| 02:40:13 | Xenoc | erm... what are those 4 AA batteries for... ? |
| 02:40:24 | Xenoc | I just remembered mine are sitting on the floor over there still... |
| 02:40:45 | sorphin | backup |
| 02:40:58 | Xenoc | so they shouldn't be important, as far as this goes? |
| 02:41:47 | sorphin | no |
| 02:43:57 | Xenoc | oh, weird. |
| 02:44:02 | Xenoc | it didn't do this last time. |
| 02:44:06 | sorphin | ? |
| 02:44:09 | Xenoc | I'm trying a different image file. |
| 02:44:15 | Xenoc | I also put the SODIMM back in though |
| 02:44:18 | sorphin | ummm |
| 02:44:24 | Xenoc | erasing at 0x00020000... scanning down... resume writing at 0x00020000 |
| 02:44:25 | sorphin | taht might help :P |
| 02:44:51 | Xenoc | well, it didn't say anywhere it needed it =P heh |
| 02:45:21 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:45:34 | sorphin | you know how much mem that thing has w/o that? |
| 02:45:37 | sorphin | 2 megs |
| 02:45:40 | sorphin | and gee |
| 02:45:47 | sorphin | you're xdownloading to... MEMORY ? |
| 02:45:50 | Xenoc | mmm? it says 4mb on the website |
| 02:45:57 | Xenoc | at least, I thought it did. |
| 02:46:03 | sorphin | i've yanked the dimm |
| 02:46:04 | sorphin | and see 2 |
| 02:46:19 | Xenoc | oh, well that makes sense then I guess. |
| 02:46:26 | Xenoc | I was going on the assumption that it had 4. |
| 02:46:37 | sorphin | points at the "ASSumption" |
| 02:46:38 | Xenoc | and it didn't show any error doing the xdownload =/ |
| 02:46:38 | sorphin | grins |
| 02:46:47 | Xenoc | heh, yes yes, "ass-u-me" =) |
| 02:47:36 | Xenoc | ok, uploading the image with tinyx again ;) |
| 02:48:00 | Xenoc | I wanna take this to work tommorow with X so I can show it off ;) |
| 02:48:09 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:48:19 | Xenoc | well, if this NIC works. |
| 02:48:31 | sorphin | threw linux on it, and ended up bricking while reinfernoing.. they're both all good now since i jtag'd |
| 02:48:44 | Xenoc | does a jtag solder on or what? |
| 02:49:30 | sorphin | you solder on a header |
| 02:49:38 | Xenoc | aah. |
| 02:49:40 | sorphin | and cable to it through a dongle |
| 02:49:50 | sorphin | well, unless you have a 3.3v parallel port |
| 02:49:54 | sorphin | then you don't need the dongle |
| 02:51:06 | Xenoc | I really hope I never need a jtag |
| 02:51:12 | Xenoc | but knowing me, I will eventually. |
| 02:51:45 | Xenoc | it's not in my nature -not- to mess with things until they break. |
| 02:52:43 | sorphin | well, i didn't think i'd need it |
| 02:53:17 | sorphin | i'm just glad i was able to straight wire it |
| 02:53:43 | Xenoc | I figure I can find someone in the LUG here that has one I can borrow, if I ever need one. |
| 02:54:00 | Xenoc | I know they were all talking about tuxscreens a year or so ago, and a few of them have them. |
| 02:54:27 | Xenoc | I just don't know any of them, so I'll probably just have to buy them a 6'er of beer or something. =) |
| 02:55:40 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:57:09 | Xenoc | aaarrgg. |
| 02:57:15 | Xenoc | blob> flash ramdisk |
| 02:57:15 | Xenoc | Saving ramdisk to flash |
| 02:57:16 | Xenoc | blob> |
| 02:57:21 | Xenoc | I don't get it. |
| 02:57:32 | sorphin | eh ? |
| 02:57:43 | Xenoc | oh, whoa |
| 02:57:44 | Xenoc | it works... |
| 02:57:49 | Xenoc | just "boot" didn't work. |
| 02:57:52 | Xenoc | I had to hard reset. |
| 02:58:05 | sorphin | right |
| 02:58:37 | Xenoc | taking an awefully long time to boot though. |
| 02:58:42 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:58:53 | Xenoc | trying to load a bunch of different pcmcia nic drivers? |
| 02:59:00 | sorphin | yes, among other things |
| 03:03:07 | Xenoc | is there some way to calibrate the touch screen in linux? |
| 03:03:24 | sorphin | not that i know of.. |
| 03:40:35 | sorphin | allo tim |
| 03:53:35 | BZFlag | yellow. |
| 03:53:54 | sorphin | told you maintain the blob/jflash part of buildroot |
| 03:54:02 | sorphin | there seem to be some current probs |
| 03:54:12 | BZFlagIndia | what's the deal? |
| 03:54:12 | andersee | hey Tim |
| 03:54:22 | BZFlagIndia | andersee: go to bed already. ;-) |
| 03:54:26 | sorphin | andersee: go |
| 03:54:29 | sorphin | andersee: to |
| 03:54:34 | sorphin | andersee: bed |
| 03:54:36 | sorphin | andersee: erik |
| 03:54:39 | sorphin | ;) |
| 03:55:08 | andersee | BZFlagIndia: I slept 4 hours this afternoon. I'm good for the night. |
| 03:55:09 | andersee | :) |
| 03:55:32 | sorphin | BZFlagIndia: well, in blob, it's having makefile probs.. and jflash, just has compile probs.. and i've made jflash, outside of buildroot w/ no probs.. (from the cvs, a ways back) |
| 03:56:02 | sorphin | andersee: i'm gonna do the 5v mod your way.. cept not w/ dips |
| 03:56:09 | sorphin | gonna use 2 SPDT switches |
| 03:56:18 | sorphin | be nice if auto sense worked tho.. |
| 03:56:50 | andersee | sorphin: I would've done it with s SPDT switch, but I didn't have one in my bag-o-parts and it was late (as usual) so radio shack was closed |
| 03:57:23 | BZFlagIndia | sorphin: what happens with blob? I built it a few weeks back and it was fine. |
| 03:57:48 | sorphin | andersee: looking at the diode one.. w/ the switch on, they're dumping more than 5v on it... |
| 03:57:52 | sorphin | BZFlagIndia: 1 mo.. |
| 03:58:26 | sorphin | BZFlagIndia: make[4]: Entering directory |
| 03:58:26 | sorphin | `/root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/blob/src/blob' |
| 03:58:27 | sorphin | as @ASFLAGS@ -c `test -f start.S || echo './'`start.S |
| 03:58:27 | sorphin | as: unrecognized option `-c' |
| 03:58:27 | sorphin | make[4]: *** [start.o] Error 1 |
| 03:58:39 | sorphin | and if i run the rebuild-gcc thing in in tools |
| 03:58:57 | sorphin | when it's doing automake, it complains about AS and ASFLAGS not being in configure.in (among other things) |
| 03:59:13 | andersee | sorphin: Yeah, I didn't like the looks of that... Seemed a bad idea. A switch is cleaner. |
| 03:59:23 | BZFlagIndia | hmm. I wonder if it's an automake/autoconf thing. |
| 03:59:40 | sorphin | not sure.. might be, but figured i'd check w/ you 1st |
| 04:00:48 | BZFlagIndia | well, I probably won't get to it till next week, but feel free to send the error and automake/autoconf versions used up to the list. |
| 04:01:19 | sorphin | k |
| 04:01:27 | sorphin | and as for the jflash |
| 04:01:39 | sorphin | dunno what's diff there, it compiled fine a couple weeks ago from cvs |
| 04:01:43 | sorphin | did you change anything? |
| 04:01:58 | BZFlagIndia | I have not looked at jflash for a while. I've been meaning to sync up with rmk on his jtag stuff sometime. |
| 04:02:15 | BZFlagIndia | might need to for the board I'm working on now (sh3 based) |
| 04:02:56 | andersee | BZFlagIndia: speaking of which. uClibc now does shared libs on SH |
| 04:03:23 | BZFlagIndia | sweet. you have an sh3 box to test on? |
| 04:03:38 | sorphin | i have an sh4 to test on :) |
| 04:04:05 | MonMotha | my friend has a sh3 jornada :) |
| 04:04:14 | sorphin | MonMotha: this is my dreamcast ;) |
| 04:04:15 | MonMotha | not that I know of any project to run linux on it |
| 04:04:20 | andersee | BZFlagIndia: nope. I have no sh hardware at all unfortunately. |
| 04:04:24 | BZFlagIndia | sh4 would be nice, ahh... FPU. but I think there would be power/disipation issues in a handheld. |
| 04:04:43 | MonMotha | aren't there ARMs with FPUs too? |
| 04:04:47 | sorphin | well, my DC runs netbad and linux just fine, and it's networked ;) |
| 04:04:53 | sorphin | netbsd even |
| 04:04:59 | BZFlagIndia | MonMotha: there is a linux port for some of the sh3 jornadas. |
| 04:05:01 | andersee | BZFlagIndia: so just turn down the clock... |
| 04:05:45 | BZFlagIndia | MonMotha: the ARM10 has a FPU add on, but would need a lot of othere support chips. |
| 04:06:14 | sorphin | grr.. i hate gimp |
| 04:06:16 | BZFlagIndia | andersee: true true. |
| 04:06:49 | sorphin | the damn processes like to just go T on it |
| 04:07:55 | sorphin | BZFlagIndia: fyi, the jflash prob now |
| 04:08:03 | sorphin | 3 diff lines giving: /root/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/jflash/flash.cpp:248: undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0' |
| 04:08:41 | sorphin | should it be using g++ or gcc there ? |
| 04:08:58 | sorphin | cuz if it's g++ then it's using the wrong compiler for some reason |
| 04:09:25 | BZFlagIndia | yeah, g++ would be better. |
| 04:09:36 | sorphin | might be an error in the .mk file ? |
| 04:09:57 | sorphin | yup, it needed g++ |
| 04:10:05 | sorphin | so something's saying to call gcc instead.. |
| 04:10:32 | sorphin | hmm |
| 04:10:39 | sorphin | the makefile's diff for sure |
| 04:10:55 | sorphin | hmm |
| 04:10:56 | sorphin | weird |
| 04:11:00 | sorphin | ok it's not.. |
| 04:11:13 | sorphin | tries a build in the other jflash dir |
| 04:12:38 | sorphin | odd.. ah well.. either gcc's supposed to call g++ and isn't or the makefile(s) need to be changed.. cuz it compiled fine couple weeks ago w/o "hacking" it |
| 04:17:52 | MonMotha | BZFlagIndia: really? I thought they were only working on the arm based jornadas |
| 04:20:59 | MonMotha | ping? |
| 04:25:38 | sorphin | did anyone just curious, actually try the lucent 5v mod (to discover ti doesn't work/autosense doesn't work) ? |
| 07:53:59 | Nermal_Work | :) |
| 08:26:26 | Nermal_Work | do pcmcia external hdd caddies work with the tuxscreen ? |
| 10:15:53 | switchcat | greetings |
| 10:19:04 | Nermal_Work | lo |
| 10:19:06 | Nermal_Work | :) |
| 10:19:32 | switchcat | <twiddles thumbs> |
| 10:19:53 | switchcat | one of these days I should get a tux screen... then again, by the time I do... they'll probably all be gone. :( |
| 10:20:13 | switchcat | is tim @ linux expo? he's probably selling them out as we speak. :'( |
| 10:20:14 | Nermal_Work | 30 left... |
| 10:20:27 | Nermal_Work | I only just got one the other day |
| 10:20:33 | Nermal_Work | they are nice though :) pcmcia is cool :) |
| 10:21:10 | switchcat | yeah I saw them when he was first trying to hawk them at one the of NYC linux expos or maybe it was the bazaar even... I dont remember |
| 11:50:48 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: he's in india atm.. so unless there's a linux expo in india.. |
| 12:03:32 | file | hi all |
| 12:12:14 | scanline | is away: ZzZzzzzzz ZZZ! zzzz... ZZzz? |
| 12:46:19 | file | hi prpplague |
| 13:00:08 | prpplague | file: morning |
| 13:00:17 | file | what'cha up to today? |
| 13:04:54 | cosmic_work | is back (gone 14:21:26) |
| 13:11:25 | Nermal | roars |
| 13:30:50 | sorphin | dammit lilo, you rename your "fake domain" just to get around ingores.. |
| 13:31:34 | switchcat-afk | in gores? |
| 13:31:43 | sorphin | ignores :P |
| 13:32:18 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: and read my comment about where tim is atm ;p |
| 13:33:18 | switchcat-afk | sorphin - I must have missed it |
| 13:33:37 | sorphin | <sorphin> switchcat-afk: he's in india atm.. so unless there's a linux expo in |
| 13:33:37 | sorphin | india.. |
| 13:33:40 | switchcat-afk | based on the login I saw, I would guess he's in india.. but then again anybody can call themselves timr |
| 13:33:53 | sorphin | points up a line |
| 13:34:11 | switchcat-afk | actually I have seen linux expos in india.. I think a while back (last year) I saw info on one in bangalore... |
| 13:34:18 | sorphin | he's the only bzflag* here |
| 13:34:36 | sorphin | and i don't think it's an expo he's at.. |
| 13:35:33 | switchcat-afk | I'm just being silly... but at 30.. they are bound to sell out soon... |
| 13:36:05 | sorphin | umm |
| 13:36:11 | sorphin | i dunno bout that |
| 13:36:19 | switchcat-afk | yes I know it's been a long time coming... |
| 13:36:24 | sorphin | there were 40 a few weeks ago |
| 13:36:28 | sorphin | whe ni got mine |
| 13:36:32 | sorphin | when i even |
| 13:36:39 | switchcat-afk | but when everybody gets the "hmmm only 30... I better get me one while I still can..." buzz.. |
| 13:36:49 | switchcat-afk | all those people who have been "putting it off" will... |
| 13:37:18 | sorphin | maybe |
| 13:58:59 | switchcat-afk | are there any good sites of examples of people actually using tuxscreens for VoIP/SIP phone networks? |
| 13:59:34 | sorphin | just the site that i saw w/ it talking to a cisco phone |
| 13:59:44 | sorphin | otherwise, i'd say google it |
| 14:00:09 | switchcat-afk | I used to hear all this stuff about people sharing outbound local dialing lines... years ago... |
| 14:00:27 | switchcat-afk | yeah I've tried googling tuxscreen but half the pages are broke |
| 14:00:34 | sorphin | so use the cache ;p |
| 14:00:50 | switchcat-afk | nah thats not the problem.. it's not that they're missing.. |
| 14:01:07 | switchcat-afk | its just that they dont seem to come up properly... like bug in the wiki code or something |
| 14:01:26 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:01:33 | sorphin | wiki is browser finiky |
| 14:02:13 | switchcat-afk | my computer is finiky enough as it is. :( |
| 14:02:27 | switchcat-afk | darn it's half frozen right now. :( |
| 14:02:40 | sorphin | nod |
| 14:07:42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: how are things today? |
| 14:29:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: better that yesterday |
| 14:29:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yesterday was a nightmare |
| 14:29:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: finally got all of the isgnature capture stuff running well |
| 14:29:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: packaging it up now |
| 14:30:08 | sorphin | prpplague: coo |
| 14:32:42 | switchcat | bleh |
| 14:45:36 | Xenoc | hmm. |
| 14:45:47 | file | hey Xenoc |
| 14:45:47 | Xenoc | I'm trying to get buildroot-tux to compile for the first time |
| 14:46:05 | Xenoc | but I can't resolve ftp.arm.linux.org.uk to download some kernel patch. |
| 14:46:20 | file | oh? |
| 14:46:23 | file | it's 195.92.249.252 |
| 14:46:24 | Xenoc | g'morning file |
| 14:46:48 | file | or parcelfarce.linux.theplanet.co.uk |
| 14:47:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: awesome |
| 14:47:09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: is it going open source? |
| 14:50:16 | file | is writing up a mIRC Script combined with voice recognition so that it'll play MP3s that he says |
| 14:50:32 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone have a favorite open source MPEG2 streamer? |
| 14:50:41 | CosmicPenguin | s/open source/freeware/ |
| 14:50:54 | file | er myt laptop will play |
| 14:56:35 | sorphin | [msg(fundraising)] I'd rather give my $ to feed the children :P |
| 14:58:23 | Xenoc | chuckles |
| 14:59:47 | switchcat-afk | I should change my nick to "Better Charity" |
| 15:00:12 | switchcat-afk | <-- actually manages an officially registered 501(c)3 non-profit charitable organization.. |
| 15:00:17 | sorphin | should rename to FreeFoad :P |
| 15:00:35 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: that means you're safe when htey screw .org |
| 15:01:08 | Xenoc | are they changing the policy on .org? |
| 15:01:11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i'll open source it, but it will only work on this one sig capture device since there is not sig cap standard |
| 15:01:21 | switchcat-afk | sorphin - yeah... actually, I've been thinking about maybe making various .org sites sanction as 'projects' of ours, on a case by case basis... |
| 15:01:29 | sorphin | Xenoc: heh, when verisign doesn't manage it anymore, they will.. |
| 15:01:46 | sorphin | has 2 .orgs :P |
| 15:01:48 | Xenoc | aah, yeah |
| 15:01:58 | Xenoc | I don't have any, thankfully. |
| 15:02:24 | sorphin | db.hackers-anonymous.org db.spods-anonymous.org |
| 15:02:43 | switchcat-afk | spods? |
| 15:02:44 | sorphin | you'd have to be online elsewhere to understand it |
| 15:02:47 | Xenoc | raises an eyebrow |
| 15:03:01 | sorphin | flood: |
| 15:03:02 | sorphin | Spod: These are people that spend a lot of time online. |
| 15:03:02 | sorphin | spod/spodess - |
| 15:03:02 | sorphin | a sad computer person, nerd, someone who habitually is |
| 15:03:02 | sorphin | found slumped over a computer keyboard as the first |
| 15:03:02 | sorphin | rays of sunlight emerge. |
| 15:03:10 | Xenoc | heh |
| 15:03:33 | sorphin | has long since forgotten what it breaks down to |
| 15:03:41 | sorphin | usually equated w/ students tho |
| 15:03:53 | sorphin | should rename to... |
| 15:04:00 | sorphin | liloshouldfoad |
| 15:04:09 | switchcat-afk | no websites on those domains? |
| 15:04:14 | Xenoc | foad? |
| 15:04:19 | sorphin | no |
| 15:04:22 | switchcat-afk | f*ck off and die |
| 15:04:27 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: yup |
| 15:04:34 | Xenoc | lol. that's a new one to me |
| 15:04:50 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: mail, no web. |
| 15:05:03 | switchcat-afk | sorphin - well I bet if you put up a simple site on those, you could probably convince someone enough that yes they are non-profit organizations... |
| 15:05:12 | sorphin | laughs |
| 15:05:17 | switchcat-afk | just put up simple 12-step-type "anonymous" pages... |
| 15:05:28 | sorphin | you haven't seen the 2 sites i do have up ;p |
| 15:05:39 | sorphin | www.captainrock.com and www.technoboy.net :P |
| 15:05:46 | switchcat-afk | well you only gave me those two .org sites to contomplate |
| 15:06:00 | sorphin | well, they're the only 2 .orgs i have |
| 15:06:30 | sorphin | and i'm not a "commercial entity" so .com even isn't really accurate |
| 15:06:45 | sorphin | and i'm not a backbone router, so .net doesn't fit ;) |
| 15:06:59 | sorphin | .web is a lame idea |
| 15:07:08 | sorphin | .info is lame |
| 15:07:17 | switchcat-afk | you've got 4 tivos networked in there?? |
| 15:07:20 | sorphin | .sex would be cool *grin* |
| 15:07:38 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: yeah, tho that network diagram is dated.. |
| 15:07:54 | sorphin | is one of the old tivo hackers :P |
| 15:08:12 | switchcat-afk | dayum... is that all your hardware.. or work.. or school..? that's a lot o stuff... and it says "lab..." |
| 15:08:17 | sorphin | mine |
| 15:08:21 | Xenoc | /dev/hda4 9938284 9433444 0 100% /home |
| 15:08:25 | Xenoc | *whoops* |
| 15:08:32 | sorphin | Xenoc: clean up some of htat pr0n |
| 15:08:32 | Xenoc | where'd that 450mb go? |
| 15:08:48 | switchcat-afk | dayum sorphin |
| 15:09:33 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: what's not there |
| 15:09:41 | sorphin | the cs-516 got replaced w/ a 2511 |
| 15:09:46 | Xenoc | I had to delete my 400mb of PI the other day =/ |
| 15:09:57 | sorphin | Xenoc: eh? |
| 15:10:01 | Xenoc | and I mean the number, not the movie. ;) |
| 15:10:14 | sorphin | 400meg of PI? |
| 15:10:18 | sorphin | are you sick? |
| 15:10:18 | Xenoc | yep. |
| 15:10:21 | Xenoc | gziped. |
| 15:10:22 | CosmicPenguin | gerrr.... |
| 15:10:24 | Xenoc | quite. |
| 15:10:28 | sorphin | that's.... |
| 15:10:33 | sorphin | weird |
| 15:10:40 | switchcat-afk | how long is that? was that the quadrillionth bit of pi project? |
| 15:11:02 | Xenoc | I dunno, but it was pretty long |
| 15:11:19 | sorphin | doesn't wanna know why someone would have 400M gziped |
| 15:11:21 | sorphin | of PI |
| 15:11:31 | switchcat-afk | yeah there was a distributed computing project to determine the quadrillionth bit of pi or something like that... |
| 15:11:41 | Xenoc | sorphin: sh*t's and giggles? =) |
| 15:11:58 | sorphin | s/sh*t's and giggles/waste of 400M/ |
| 15:12:05 | Xenoc | hehe, true dat. |
| 15:13:38 | sorphin | hates that visio can't use trial viso drawings.. |
| 15:13:42 | Xenoc | oh wow |
| 15:13:49 | sorphin | hmm? |
| 15:13:49 | Xenoc | source code from my previous job |
| 15:13:51 | Xenoc | cool. |
| 15:13:54 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:13:58 | sorphin | you wanna see old source? ;) |
| 15:14:00 | Xenoc | the things you find when you clean up "backup" directories =) |
| 15:14:18 | Xenoc | I wouldn't really call this old, it's acctually pretty sweet code. |
| 15:14:25 | switchcat-afk | http://216.239.39.100/search?q=cache:ar-bODXNti8C:www.cecm.sfu.ca/projects/pihex/+pihex&hl=en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 15:14:31 | sorphin | i can't get to all my old code on central point backup floppies, but i do still have my code from when i wrote my own disk formatter |
| 15:14:34 | switchcat-afk | quadrillionth bit of pi (pihex) project |
| 15:15:18 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:15:31 | Xenoc | /dev/hda4 9938284 8793572 639872 94% /home |
| 15:15:33 | switchcat-afk | why it's offline, I dunno... damned project |
| 15:15:35 | Xenoc | well that was easy. |
| 15:15:41 | Xenoc | that's what backups are good for. |
| 15:15:49 | Xenoc | freeing up disk space when needed ;) |
| 15:16:14 | switchcat-afk | so sorphin why 4 tivos? |
| 15:16:18 | sorphin | only MS would so somehting this lame.. bah.. |
| 15:16:35 | sorphin | switchcat-afk: as i said, i'm one of hte old tivo h4x0rs |
| 15:16:48 | switchcat-afk | ohhh |
| 15:16:50 | switchcat-afk | sorry I missed it |
| 15:16:51 | sorphin | has 1 live standalone, a dtivo, an sa and a series 2 |
| 15:17:21 | Xenoc | I wish I had the time/money/knowledge to hack something like that |
| 15:17:22 | sorphin | had the 1st 106 hour tivo, back in the day |
| 15:17:30 | sorphin | shrugs |
| 15:17:46 | sorphin | Xenoc: well, i've been doing crap far too long |
| 15:18:11 | Xenoc | I haven't been around long enough to be an old timer, or anything like that |
| 15:18:19 | sorphin | remembers the good ole days of linux .99 pl11 |
| 15:18:22 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:18:27 | switchcat-afk | I have a friend who's putting in his uhm, second or so 120gig harddrive in his tivo, but that's the closest I get. |
| 15:18:34 | Xenoc | but I can't help thinking sometimes that the age of hackers is over |
| 15:18:48 | switchcat-afk | that's what I get for running an underfunded non-profit organization... no money to spend on fun toys. :'( |
| 15:18:49 | sorphin | Xenoc: you sound like a /. story ;p |
| 15:18:55 | Xenoc | lol |
| 15:19:14 | sorphin | -:- Xenoc is now known as SlashDot |
| 15:19:20 | sorphin | ;) |
| 15:19:22 | Xenoc | I'm just worried about the directions the world is heading in *shrugs* |
| 15:19:27 | Xenoc | in many ways. |
| 15:19:38 | Xenoc | I was at a big fireworks show the other day |
| 15:19:44 | sorphin | Xenoc: life was easier wen the world was on the virge of nuking itself |
| 15:19:49 | Xenoc | with many tens of thousands of people crammed down on a beach |
| 15:19:52 | Xenoc | and when everyone left, |
| 15:19:56 | Xenoc | it looked like a wastelant |
| 15:20:01 | Xenoc | s/t$/d |
| 15:20:12 | Xenoc | because everyone had left one piece of garbage behind. |
| 15:20:23 | Xenoc | it's things like that that make me worried about where we're headed. |
| 15:20:23 | sorphin | switchcat: so what's your org do ? |
| 15:20:47 | file | back |
| 15:20:48 | Xenoc | </rant> |
| 15:20:56 | Xenoc | and I think my kernel is acctually compiling ;) |
| 15:21:13 | Xenoc | wb file |
| 15:21:18 | sorphin | thinks his work could change to a .org now, since we no loner make a profit ;p |
| 15:21:24 | sorphin | +g |
| 15:21:30 | file | thanks |
| 15:21:30 | switchcat | we are an arts and environmental non-profit organization |
| 15:21:55 | switchcat | our major projects are rescuing unwanted materials from the waste stream |
| 15:22:20 | sorphin | cool |
| 15:22:29 | switchcat | our heart is anywhere creative reuse comes into play, but we also operate as an information network for many things related to those two subjects |
| 15:23:15 | sorphin | like.. |
| 15:24:42 | Xenoc | is there a page somewhere that explains how to use the Wiki? I mean, how to format text and all that? |
| 15:24:55 | sorphin | look at WikiInfo ? |
| 15:25:27 | Xenoc | ah, cool. thanks |
| 15:25:27 | switchcat | we have a target audience (which we're working to widen) and just try to get out various information on different arts & environmental things which we feel are helpful or relevant to our constituency... damn is that double talk or what? :P |
| 15:26:00 | sorphin | switchcat: it is |
| 15:26:09 | sorphin | switchcat: what i meant, is an example of what you've done |
| 15:26:11 | file | eats his Zesty Cheese Doritos |
| 15:26:33 | switchcat | like I said... our major project is rescuing unwanted materials from the waste stream... |
| 15:26:55 | sorphin | grins |
| 15:26:57 | sorphin | such as... |
| 15:27:01 | switchcat | we have a warehouse space where we rescue and exchange unwanted materials... |
| 15:27:22 | switchcat | our members turn the materials into new art, use it to renovate houses, etc. |
| 15:28:03 | switchcat | right now we're looking for a more permanent home, something bigger so we can expand our offerings and abilities |
| 15:28:59 | switchcat | we have teachers, artists, craftspeople, small businesses, individuals, collectors, students, etc etc etc as members... so their needs and what we can rescue is quite varied |
| 15:29:18 | Xenoc | that's pretty cool |
| 15:29:23 | switchcat | between 1998-2000 we rescued 7 tons of material with just 3000 sq. ft. of space |
| 15:29:31 | Xenoc | I remember once in university, when my girlfriend came for a visit, |
| 15:29:36 | switchcat | we can do a LOT better than that. |
| 15:29:39 | Xenoc | we had a big cork-board up on the wall for posting notes and stuff |
| 15:30:14 | Xenoc | and she took all my old XT and 268 ISA cards, hard drive platters, ribbon cables, etc, and pinned them up on the corkboard |
| 15:30:19 | Xenoc | made some pretty cool "modern art" =) |
| 15:31:40 | sorphin | hehe |
| 15:32:48 | switchcat | I am saving my 8088's for someone who wants to hack ELKS. :) |
| 15:32:55 | Xenoc | ELKS? |
| 15:32:57 | Xenoc | wassat? |
| 15:33:09 | Xenoc | I have an 8086 on a necklace at home ;) |
| 15:33:14 | sorphin | linux for sub 386s |
| 15:33:18 | file | mmm like Linux for under 386 |
| 15:33:20 | Xenoc | heh |
| 15:33:32 | | A subset of the Linux kernel that runs in 8086 real mode and 286 protected mode. URL: http://www.elks.ecs.soton.ac.uk/ |
| 15:33:32 | file | ibot: ELKS? |
| 15:33:46 | Xenoc | that's cool |
| 15:33:55 | Xenoc | hey, I was wondering about something... |
| 15:34:02 | Xenoc | just this idea I had, I'm sure someone else has had it. |
| 15:34:12 | file | spit it out |
| 15:34:20 | Xenoc | a 486 "motherboard" that gives access to raw pinouts, kind of |
| 15:34:28 | Xenoc | maybe a basic IDE controller |
| 15:34:32 | switchcat | http://elks.sourceforge.net/ |
| 15:34:43 | Xenoc | and just pins for the ISA connection |
| 15:34:44 | Xenoc | no acctual slots |
| 15:34:51 | Xenoc | the idea being to keep it small, simple, and cheap |
| 15:34:54 | file | can't say I have thought of that |
| 15:35:02 | Xenoc | because, I mean, who -doesn't- have 6 486 chips sitting on the shelf. |
| 15:35:09 | file | me |
| 15:35:12 | Xenoc | ;) |
| 15:35:15 | sorphin | Xenoc: i don't |
| 15:35:31 | Xenoc | oh... well maybe I'm the only one that does then ;) |
| 15:35:37 | sorphin | yup |
| 15:35:42 | file | Xenoc: got any wireless networking parts? |
| 15:35:45 | Xenoc | it just kills me not to have a way of using them |
| 15:35:46 | sorphin | got a P75 cpu in the closet somewhere |
| 15:35:59 | Xenoc | file: nope, I'm behind the curve. |
| 15:36:01 | sorphin | gave his K5/166 to his mom |
| 15:36:06 | file | Xenoc: bleh |
| 15:36:16 | file | Xenoc: I want to network this 486 and my laptop wirelessly... |
| 15:36:24 | file | haven't been able to find stuff that works with 95 and TN4 |
| 15:36:26 | file | er NT4 |
| 15:36:29 | Xenoc | I would love to be able to use those mini-486s in my car |
| 15:36:37 | Xenoc | scatter them around, a couple in the front, a couple in the back |
| 15:36:40 | Xenoc | as data-gatherers. |
| 15:36:45 | sorphin | main hting i liked about the K5 machine's board |
| 15:36:48 | file | nice way to entertain passengers too |
| 15:36:50 | sorphin | TX chipset |
| 15:36:56 | sorphin | so verysupported |
| 15:37:02 | Xenoc | heh |
| 15:37:13 | Xenoc | I like my PII mobo, BX chipset |
| 15:37:37 | sorphin | well, i'm not a big intel fan.. so my later boards don't have intel chipsets |
| 15:37:51 | sorphin | thinks intel only has done 2 things right |
| 15:37:54 | file | AMD for me... |
| 15:37:59 | sorphin | ok, 3 |
| 15:38:03 | Xenoc | I'm no intel fan either |
| 15:38:06 | file | sorphin : screw up P5? |
| 15:38:08 | sorphin | their 100 base ether |
| 15:38:15 | sorphin | the eepro100 |
| 15:38:24 | sorphin | the PIII xeons |
| 15:38:29 | sorphin | and the PPro |
| 15:38:43 | Xenoc | but when I bought that PII 400, AMD's fastest chip was a 300. |
| 15:39:13 | file | my laptop is a PI 133MHz... |
| 15:39:38 | Xenoc | hey, any of you ever heard of the TINI? |
| 15:39:44 | sorphin | yes |
| 15:39:45 | file | no |
| 15:39:52 | file | only because I don't pay attention to much stuff |
| 15:39:59 | sorphin | ity bity ppp server |
| 15:40:07 | Xenoc | PPP? nay =) |
| 15:40:16 | sorphin | well, it's one use |
| 15:40:17 | Xenoc | it's got ethernet and serial |
| 15:40:20 | file | haha, PPP |
| 15:40:22 | sorphin | right |
| 15:40:23 | Xenoc | yeah, one of many |
| 15:40:34 | Xenoc | I'm using one to build an alarm for my car |
| 15:40:35 | file | PPPoE! |
| 15:40:40 | sorphin | NETWORK <--tini->ppp->tivo |
| 15:40:42 | Xenoc | with iButtons for authentication |
| 15:40:50 | sorphin | is how some ppl have used em |
| 15:41:05 | file | I still haven't gotten a TiVo darn it |
| 15:41:12 | Xenoc | file: it's a small java-powered microprocessor on a 72pin SIMM card. |
| 15:41:17 | Xenoc | file: the TINI, that is. |
| 15:41:24 | file | Xenoc: ooh |
| 15:41:56 | sorphin | my friend daniel has been messing w/ that 1-Wire stuff |
| 15:41:59 | Xenoc | so I'm going to replace my key-holes on my car with iButton readers ;) |
| 15:42:09 | Xenoc | so I won't have a key, just an iButton |
| 15:42:15 | file | lol |
| 15:42:19 | Xenoc | and another inside the car instead of the key to start the car |
| 15:42:42 | Xenoc | and one for the trunk keyhole, the glovebox lock, and the armrest lock. ;) |
| 15:42:47 | sorphin | ok ok ok |
| 15:42:48 | sorphin | :P |
| 15:42:55 | Xenoc | giggles like a schoolgirl |
| 15:43:04 | sorphin | doesn't ask |
| 15:43:12 | Xenoc | that is, if I ever get out of this dead-end job and start making some real money. |
| 15:43:24 | Xenoc | I just get so excited about the idea ;) |
| 15:43:34 | Xenoc | that's what my tuxscreen's for too. |
| 15:43:35 | sorphin | doesn't wanna know |
| 15:44:20 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:44:44 | Xenoc | prolly have to replace the lcd/touchscreen with a proper crt eventually though |
| 15:44:59 | Xenoc | cuz in a convertible... sunlight on the lcd is going to really suck. =| |
| 15:45:10 | sorphin | heh |
| 15:45:58 | sorphin | not even gonna ask what kinda convertible |
| 15:46:25 | Xenoc | hey, is there a way to get the tuxscreen running at 206mhz with Linux? |
| 15:46:47 | Xenoc | sorphin: I'll just say "a very small one". finding room for all this gear is not easy. =/ |
| 15:47:33 | sorphin | cabrio? :P |
| 15:47:44 | Xenoc | Miata |
| 15:47:50 | sorphin | year? |
| 15:47:53 | Xenoc | 1990 |
| 15:47:58 | sorphin | whew ;) |
| 15:48:24 | sorphin | guy at work here has a 99 and hates the old style, i prefer the old style |
| 15:48:49 | Xenoc | Barn Doors forever! =) |
| 15:49:00 | Xenoc | barn doors = flip-up headlights ;) |
| 15:49:20 | sorphin | yup |
| 15:49:24 | sorphin | tho what i really want |
| 15:49:31 | sorphin | is a DeLorean |
| 15:49:47 | Xenoc | oooh, those are pretty slick |
| 15:49:55 | Xenoc | I saw one down in Seattle a few weeks ago |
| 15:50:07 | Xenoc | and one parked at the NAPA store here a couple months ago |
| 15:50:12 | sorphin | what kinda shape? |
| 15:50:22 | Xenoc | shape, as in condition? |
| 15:50:24 | sorphin | yes |
| 15:50:34 | Xenoc | the one in Seattle was excelent |
| 15:50:44 | sorphin | good |
| 15:50:44 | Xenoc | assuming the silver finish isn't supposed to be super-shiny |
| 15:50:53 | sorphin | it's stainless steel |
| 15:50:55 | Xenoc | kind of a dull metalic silver, not very lustery. |
| 15:50:57 | Xenoc | yeah, ok. |
| 15:51:06 | sorphin | if it's anything but silver |
| 15:51:09 | Xenoc | the one here in Vancouver wasn't great, but it was still pretty good. |
| 15:51:18 | sorphin | it's useless, cuz they ruined it |
| 15:51:20 | sorphin | and painted it |
| 15:51:21 | Xenoc | yeah |
| 15:51:25 | Xenoc | that's just wrong. |
| 15:51:30 | sorphin | ypu |
| 15:51:34 | sorphin | saw on ebay |
| 15:51:36 | Xenoc | DeLoreans are supposed to be like that. =) |
| 15:51:40 | sorphin | someone selling a black one |
| 15:51:44 | Xenoc | tsk tsk. |
| 15:51:44 | sorphin | which eans |
| 15:51:46 | sorphin | means |
| 15:51:48 | sorphin | it was painted |
| 15:52:03 | sorphin | ya know.. they just don't look quite right stock tho ;) |
| 15:52:03 | Xenoc | it's the only car I can think of that would acctually look good like that |
| 15:52:09 | Xenoc | plain metal, I mean. |
| 15:52:12 | sorphin | no Mr. Fusion on hte back ;) |
| 15:52:17 | Xenoc | hahaha |
| 15:52:19 | Xenoc | yeah ;) |
| 15:52:29 | Xenoc | that's what crossed my mind both times I saw one ;) |
| 15:52:30 | sorphin | and those vents |
| 15:52:44 | Xenoc | you know what I saw the other day that I quite like... |
| 15:52:50 | Xenoc | Lotus Esprit V8 |
| 15:52:51 | sorphin | i like the gull wing doors |
| 15:53:13 | Xenoc | heh |
| 15:53:24 | Xenoc | co-worker of mine here... *checks over sholder* |
| 15:53:25 | Xenoc | had a CRX |
| 15:53:34 | sorphin | eh.. dun like scissor doors |
| 15:53:35 | Xenoc | wanted to do the gull-wing door conversion to it ;) |
| 15:53:39 | Xenoc | I think he's a nutcase. |
| 15:53:45 | sorphin | Xenoc: that shit's expensive anyways |
| 15:53:51 | Xenoc | yeah, big time |
| 15:54:14 | Xenoc | I like the jeeps where you can just take the darned doors -off- ;) |
| 15:54:24 | Xenoc | now that's classy. =) |
| 15:54:50 | sorphin | you need suicide doors ;p |
| 15:55:11 | Xenoc | like the RX-8? =) |
| 15:55:36 | sorphin | like the general lee ;) |
| 15:55:42 | Xenoc | heh |
| 15:55:55 | sorphin | Xenoc: what annoys me the most |
| 15:56:03 | sorphin | i just priced an rsx the other day |
| 15:56:13 | Xenoc | yeah? |
| 15:56:14 | sorphin | just $1000 more than what i paid for my civic |
| 15:56:36 | Xenoc | jeez |
| 15:56:36 | file | downloads another MP3 |
| 15:56:45 | sorphin | tho, i'm only paying off $11k now, but still |
| 15:56:57 | file | proxcying downloads is fun |
| 15:56:59 | file | er proxying |
| 15:57:32 | Xenoc | I can't wait till I'm done paying off this car |
| 15:57:35 | file | uh ok |
| 15:57:41 | file | the Chimney Sweepers just called |
| 15:57:46 | Xenoc | I'll acctually be able to eat more than just rice and Mr. Noodle. |
| 15:58:17 | sorphin | well |
| 15:58:28 | sorphin | it helped walking in w/ $6175 cash |
| 15:58:41 | sorphin | only reason i got financed at all |
| 15:58:45 | Xenoc | ah, yeah |
| 15:58:51 | Xenoc | well, you know what sucks |
| 15:58:59 | Xenoc | when I got this car, my budget was all fine. |
| 15:59:00 | file | that I don't have a car? |
| 15:59:08 | Xenoc | then the company I worked at folded (big suprize) |
| 15:59:19 | Xenoc | I went 3 months without a paycheque, almost had to sell the car, |
| 15:59:26 | Xenoc | then got a new job |
| 15:59:34 | Xenoc | but the difference in expenses due to commuting, etc etc, |
| 15:59:52 | Xenoc | I ended up taking home less than the previous job, even though my salary was higher |
| 16:00:01 | file | arg my laptop is running on fumes |
| 16:00:01 | Xenoc | then! that company gets bought |
| 16:00:01 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:00:11 | Xenoc | and I have to commute even farther to work |
| 16:00:19 | Xenoc | which is more time and money =| |
| 16:00:28 | Xenoc | (we moved in the the buyer's office building) |
| 16:00:57 | Xenoc | and because of the timing of the aquisition, |
| 16:01:12 | Xenoc | I don't get a "reevaluation" until March, instead of July that just passed. |
| 16:01:22 | Xenoc | I'm oh-so bitter about it all. |
| 16:01:37 | sorphin | least you can get a raise ;p |
| 16:01:51 | Xenoc | well, barely. |
| 16:02:06 | Xenoc | the new company's sallary ranges for positions is lower than ours was |
| 16:02:07 | file | Xenoc: what is the world coming to? |
| 16:02:17 | Xenoc | so, according to them, I'm already being payed too much. |
| 16:02:32 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:02:39 | Xenoc | which is really a joke, since I know more and code better than all my co-workers |
| 16:02:51 | Xenoc | we're not a tech company |
| 16:02:58 | sorphin | nod |
| 16:03:03 | Xenoc | so the tech department is kind of an 'extra', so they don't really care. |
| 16:03:25 | Xenoc | </rant> |
| 16:03:29 | Xenoc | nice weather today. =) |
| 16:03:35 | file | why do some people encode at 192kbps and others at 128kbps? |
| 16:03:35 | sorphin | not here it ain't |
| 16:03:41 | file | it's extremely hot here |
| 16:03:49 | file | with humidity, about 110 farenheit |
| 16:04:12 | file | nudges this download |
| 16:04:27 | Xenoc | where are you guys located? |
| 16:04:38 | file | New Brunswick, Canada |
| 16:04:57 | Xenoc | Vancouver, Canada =) |
| 16:05:02 | file | where it's so hot my chocolate bar melted when I got home from the store, and the store is only 5 houses down |
| 16:05:08 | sorphin | . o O ( *.dsl.stlsmo.swbell.net ) |
| 16:05:21 | sorphin | wonders if you cna decipher stlsmo ;p |
| 16:05:34 | Xenoc | don't tell ;) |
| 16:05:36 | Xenoc | I'm trying. |
| 16:06:06 | file | one sec... I'll tell you |
| 16:06:50 | file | St Louis County, MO |
| 16:07:55 | file | :) |
| 16:08:31 | file | sorphin: I've got a question |
| 16:08:59 | Xenoc | St Louis, Missouri? |
| 16:09:03 | file | everybody still alive? |
| 16:09:05 | sorphin | aye |
| 16:09:10 | Xenoc | oh, file beat me. |
| 16:09:10 | file | I said that!!!! |
| 16:09:11 | Xenoc | doh |
| 16:09:21 | Xenoc | heh |
| 16:09:22 | file | :p |
| 16:09:23 | CosmicPenguin | Has any one tried to apply the preempt-patch to 2.4.20? |
| 16:09:33 | Xenoc | file: not bad for two Canadians, eh? ;) |
| 16:09:35 | sorphin | Xenoc: i'm ignoring file, so... |
| 16:09:36 | CosmicPenguin | s/2.4.20/2.4.20-preX/ |
| 16:09:42 | file | if I had the bandwidth I could find his exact location |
| 16:11:16 | file | arg |
| 16:11:20 | file | hotter tomorrow... |
| 16:12:00 | file | Xenoc: so your in Vancouver? neat |
| 16:12:57 | file | Xenoc: once this download is done... I want to show you something |
| 16:14:25 | Xenoc | mm? ok |
| 16:14:42 | file | I stumbled across it on my net travels |
| 16:15:29 | Xenoc | summary? |
| 16:15:39 | file | one moment |
| 16:17:16 | file | ahhh there |
| 16:17:18 | file | much better |
| 16:17:22 | switchcat | xenoc - well, this discussion is long since gone, but I've heard about motherboards with space for up to 16 486s... |
| 16:18:06 | Xenoc | switchcat: I was more thinking of something small, for a single cpu... |
| 16:18:18 | Xenoc | I think PC104 -might- be along the same lines as what i'm thinking of |
| 16:18:25 | file | Xenoc: http://www.mycardstatus.com/ |
| 16:18:31 | Xenoc | but I haven't researched it yet. |
| 16:19:32 | Xenoc | hmm |
| 16:19:39 | Xenoc | I might have to try getting one of those next time I'm in Seattle |
| 16:19:52 | file | Xenoc: you don't have to go anywhere :) |
| 16:19:59 | file | Xenoc: there's a machine in Vancouver |
| 16:20:57 | file | it doesn't show it on there |
| 16:21:05 | file | but there's one in Vancouver... have to e-mail them for the address though |
| 16:22:30 | file | Xenoc: neat eh? |
| 16:22:47 | Xenoc | yeah |
| 16:23:00 | Xenoc | I assume you can use the CC number for online stuff? |
| 16:23:10 | file | yes |
| 16:23:12 | Xenoc | -that- is cool. |
| 16:23:17 | Xenoc | get a prepaid card for $100 |
| 16:23:22 | file | you pay an initial charge to get the card |
| 16:23:22 | Xenoc | order something online for $90 |
| 16:23:27 | file | then so much when you add more |
| 16:23:29 | Xenoc | somebody tries to shaft you, they can't. |
| 16:23:36 | file | but there's no charge for puchases |
| 16:23:38 | file | yup |
| 16:23:55 | Xenoc | woo! buildroot-tuz is done |
| 16:24:14 | file | wants one darn it |
| 16:24:38 | sorphin | never heard of buildroot-tuz ;) |
| 16:25:10 | Xenoc | it, uh, compresses is... tuz.. tux... yeah, kinda like tar, tgz... yeah... |
| 16:26:42 | file | Xenoc: and guess what the best thing is! |
| 16:31:48 | Xenoc | mm? |
| 16:32:02 | file | their toll-free number actually works in Canada |
| 16:34:47 | file | disco dances |
| 16:34:48 | file | one can dream |
| 16:36:09 | file | Xenoc: so is your Tuxscreen operational? |
| 16:36:19 | Xenoc | anyone know a good wiki program I could try? there's so many to choose from =/ |
| 16:36:29 | file | nope |
| 16:36:36 | Xenoc | yeah, it's working |
| 16:36:41 | file | Xenoc: do you belong to PETA? |
| 16:36:47 | Xenoc | I just need to get different software set up |
| 16:36:50 | Xenoc | what's PETA? |
| 16:36:55 | CosmicPenguin | is irritated |
| 16:36:59 | file | People Eating Tasty Animals |
| 16:38:24 | file | twitches |
| 16:38:25 | file | I just received your email subject 'Customer's Contact Us' |
| 16:38:26 | file | I am away but will reply to your email when I return on August 19. |
| 16:38:37 | file | that sucks |
| 16:41:45 | file | Xenoc: 101 West 5th Avenue |
| 16:41:51 | file | any clue where that is? |
| 16:56:11 | Xenoc | hmm, yeah. |
| 16:56:15 | Xenoc | 3 blocks from me. |
| 16:56:28 | Xenoc | why? |
| 16:57:50 | file | wow |
| 16:57:53 | file | interesting |
| 16:57:56 | file | that's where they are |
| 17:00:08 | file | has a feeling Xenoc is busy |
| 17:06:16 | sorphin | re russ |
| 17:06:27 | prpplague | howdy there Russ |
| 17:07:01 | Russ | hey |
| 17:07:21 | prpplague | Russ: doing any thing fun with your camion? |
| 17:09:11 | Russ | not atm, pretty busy |
| 17:12:05 | Nermal | mallum: PACK THE CF SLEEVE |
| 17:14:51 | trillback | argh |
| 17:15:04 | trillback | how long does priority mail take from minnesota to michigan |
| 17:16:53 | legodude | and why is wiki so b0rked? |
| 17:16:58 | legodude | it doesn't work in either IE or Mozilla |
| 17:17:44 | mallum | hides |
| 17:18:15 | legodude | it's your fault, isn't it? |
| 17:18:17 | legodude | no soup for you |
| 17:18:29 | legodude | troutslaps mallum |
| 17:18:55 | mallum | is hiding from Nermal |
| 17:18:58 | legodude | o |
| 17:20:41 | Nermal | >:| |
| 17:25:24 | CosmicPenguin | wishes again that he could speak french |
| 17:25:37 | file | no you don't |
| 17:25:45 | CosmicPenguin | can speak Italian and Spanish |
| 17:25:57 | file | je ne non parle francais, non non non! |
| 17:26:14 | file | tres preferez parle anglais |
| 17:27:33 | legodude | Deutsch ist besser |
| 17:30:19 | CosmicPenguin | now wishes that the Darwin Streaming server could serve up mpeg 2 |
| 17:30:28 | legodude | ain't that free? |
| 17:30:54 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: as far as I know |
| 17:31:33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so hows life a censoft today? |
| 17:32:21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: If I can make it the whole day without walking out in disgust, it will be a good day |
| 17:32:34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm not very tolerant of office politics |
| 17:32:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, been there done that |
| 17:33:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: everytime i think to myself "they don't pay me enough for this" the give me a pay raise |
| 17:36:26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: unfortunately, my pay raises are linked to sales, which I have absolutely no control over |
| 17:37:01 | file | prpplague: busy? |
| 17:37:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: time to start a pr0n server |
| 17:37:08 | prpplague | file: box? |
| 17:37:17 | file | prpplague: crashing? |
| 17:37:25 | prpplague | file: n burning? |
| 17:37:50 | file | prpplague: will |
| 17:38:01 | prpplague | file: do |
| 17:38:07 | file | prpplague: someday |
| 17:38:35 | prpplague | file: soon |
| 17:38:42 | file | prpplague: pr |
| 17:38:44 | file | er |
| 17:38:47 | file | prpplague: or |
| 17:38:59 | prpplague | file: and |
| 17:39:14 | file | prpplague: nand |
| 17:39:24 | prpplague | file: xor |
| 17:39:38 | file | prpplague: exit(1); |
| 17:39:47 | prpplague | file: return 0 |
| 17:39:58 | file | prpplague: return 0L; |
| 17:40:39 | prpplague | file: close(); |
| 17:40:49 | file | prpplague: close( door ); |
| 17:41:30 | prpplague | file: put th@> $HOME | & rm it |
| 17:42:07 | file | :p |
| 17:42:16 | prpplague | file: did you get that one? |
| 17:42:26 | file | some |
| 17:42:37 | sorphin | prpplague: bah |
| 17:42:37 | prpplague | file: put that in your pipe and smoke it |
| 17:42:38 | sorphin | doing |
| 17:42:39 | sorphin | that |
| 17:42:39 | sorphin | one |
| 17:42:40 | sorphin | line |
| 17:42:41 | sorphin | at |
| 17:42:41 | sorphin | a |
| 17:42:44 | sorphin | time |
| 17:42:45 | sorphin | crap |
| 17:42:47 | sorphin | ;p |
| 17:42:55 | file | thwap( sorphin ); |
| 17:42:56 | prpplague | sorphin: sorry |
| 17:42:58 | file | thwaps sorphin |
| 17:43:20 | sorphin | just givin ya shit |
| 17:43:34 | sorphin | is being the fscking lackey again at work.. and i'm getting annoyed w/ it |
| 17:43:34 | file | prpplague: what's up? |
| 17:43:46 | prpplague | file: sfsdfd |
| 17:43:52 | file | prpplague: ic |
| 17:43:55 | sorphin | prpplague: exactly |
| 17:44:18 | prpplague | file: dd if=/tmp/yesterday of=/dev/today |
| 17:44:32 | file | prpplague: ahhhhh |
| 17:44:40 | sorphin | prpplague: nah, he should do if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda :P |
| 17:44:59 | sorphin | or sda as teh case may be |
| 17:45:01 | file | prpplague: dd if=/dev/random of=/irc/sorphin |
| 17:45:50 | file | ermph |
| 17:46:08 | file | sorphin: dd if=/dev/random of=/irc/sorphin |
| 17:46:18 | file | pokes Xenoc |
| 17:47:43 | Xenoc | mm? |
| 17:48:03 | file | Xenoc: use PicoGUI |
| 17:48:15 | Xenoc | got screenshots? |
| 17:48:21 | sorphin | oh lord.. |
| 17:48:24 | Xenoc | I'm using the tuxscreen as a thin xclient |
| 17:48:28 | Xenoc | that's all I need it to do.. |
| 17:48:37 | sorphin | Xenoc: just when you thought it couldn't get any more pathetic |
| 17:48:38 | file | http://www.picogui.org/ |
| 17:48:40 | sorphin | Shrinkwrapped Books |
| 17:48:44 | Xenoc | all the acctual programs will be elsewhere. |
| 17:48:48 | Xenoc | sorphin: ;) |
| 17:49:17 | sorphin | "you have a license to read, but not retain the information in this book, you may not copy or share this book in any form" |
| 17:49:17 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:49:43 | file | lol |
| 17:49:44 | Xenoc | lol |
| 17:51:06 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:51:20 | file | I do believe people are going crazy |
| 17:56:08 | legodude | can anyone here help me out with a quick question about optoisolators or reccomend a good chat room that could help me? |
| 17:57:41 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: sorry - i don't think I could even spell optoisolators the same way twice |
| 17:57:52 | legodude | hehe |
| 17:57:53 | legodude | thanks |
| 17:58:02 | CosmicPenguin | hits google |
| 17:58:09 | legodude | me too |
| 17:59:02 | CosmicPenguin | cool concept |
| 17:59:06 | legodude | I don't know what Vce is :( |
| 17:59:07 | legodude | ja |
| 17:59:15 | legodude | very nice for protecting things |
| 17:59:37 | legodude | and you can use them to have different voltages talk to each other |
| 17:59:47 | legodude | like a 5v control ciruit can drive a 12v motor |
| 18:02:10 | sorphin | legodude: optoisolators eh? |
| 18:02:15 | sorphin | grins |
| 18:02:15 | legodude | ja |
| 18:02:17 | sorphin | what about em |
| 18:02:22 | sorphin | andersee: boo |
| 18:02:25 | legodude | alrighty |
| 18:02:29 | prpplague | andersee: all hale the master codepoet |
| 18:02:40 | legodude | I've got a circuit that I want to interface my little AVRs to |
| 18:02:40 | sorphin | prpplague: you mean mr no sleep |
| 18:02:44 | Xenoc | anyone know what Wiki software sourceforge is using? |
| 18:02:55 | legodude | it drives leds with 12v, and my stuff operates at 5v |
| 18:03:00 | sorphin | Xenoc: ther own? ;p |
| 18:03:00 | andersee | evening all |
| 18:03:12 | legodude | I just want to drive the input pins on my uC |
| 18:03:14 | andersee | prpplague: :) |
| 18:03:14 | CosmicPenguin | checks his watch |
| 18:03:14 | Xenoc | mm. I'm trying to find one to use |
| 18:03:23 | Xenoc | twiki doesn't have user logins. |
| 18:03:23 | sorphin | legodude: right |
| 18:03:24 | prpplague | sorphin: i think he actually is an evil undead zombie |
| 18:03:35 | legodude | sorphin: so what I need to know, is any old photodarlington work? |
| 18:03:45 | sorphin | prpplague: after seeing busybox everywhere, i agree ;) |
| 18:03:53 | legodude | sorphin: CTR and Vce are confusing me |
| 18:04:03 | andersee | sorphin: :) |
| 18:04:26 | sorphin | legodude: you know that an optoiso is just an led and a photo transistor, right? |
| 18:04:32 | legodude | ja |
| 18:04:37 | sorphin | only thing you have to be concerned w/ |
| 18:04:46 | sorphin | is if it can handle the load |
| 18:05:12 | legodude | the forward current, correct? |
| 18:05:20 | sorphin | Vce (that's V sub c sub e) |
| 18:05:32 | sorphin | is V from emitter to collector |
| 18:05:40 | sorphin | erm, vise versa |
| 18:06:01 | sorphin | and yes |
| 18:06:07 | sorphin | the forward current |
| 18:06:12 | sorphin | i.e. |
| 18:06:19 | sorphin | don't try and put 5A through one that can only handle 2 :P |
| 18:06:25 | legodude | ja |
| 18:06:25 | sorphin | well |
| 18:06:34 | sorphin | unless you wanna watch the magic smoke come out |
| 18:06:39 | legodude | I think 50ma is more than enough for my purposes |
| 18:06:46 | legodude | as I'm only driving an input pin |
| 18:06:57 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:07:25 | legodude | alright |
| 18:07:30 | legodude | I think I'm better off now |
| 18:07:36 | legodude | thanks for the info + help |
| 18:07:40 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:07:51 | sorphin | switches back to lackey mode ;p |
| 18:08:16 | legodude | damn things are expensive |
| 18:08:33 | legodude | $2.5 for a 4set one |
| 18:09:12 | sorphin | well |
| 18:09:17 | sorphin | that's 4 LEDs |
| 18:09:21 | sorphin | and 4 transistors |
| 18:11:21 | legodude | ja |
| 18:11:31 | legodude | but I'm a cheap, broke bastard |
| 18:11:33 | legodude | 8 transistors |
| 18:12:57 | sorphin | 8? |
| 18:13:24 | legodude | it's a darlington |
| 18:13:38 | legodude | two transistors on the receiving end so it can sink more current |
| 18:37:22 | sorphin | legodude: oh yeah.. it's been a while.. |
| 18:37:36 | sorphin | MonMotha: ping |
| 19:10:04 | legodude | sorphin: you know of any common IC for controlling 5x7 led arrays? |
| 19:10:28 | sorphin | legodude: not off hand, no |
| 19:12:05 | legodude | I would think that would be a fairly common part but Jameco doesn't seem to have one |
| 19:12:26 | sorphin | i don't usually look at jameco for anything |
| 19:13:24 | legodude | I like em cause their catalog is easy to use and has good pictures |
| 19:13:36 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:13:42 | legodude | good for me cause I still don't know what the hell a lot of stuff is and digikey or whatever just confuses me |
| 19:14:14 | sorphin | nod |
| 19:14:22 | legodude | hrm |
| 19:14:44 | legodude | a shift register could be used to drive leds from a few pins, could it not? |
| 19:15:12 | legodude | hrm |
| 19:15:16 | legodude | goes off to google |
| 19:22:44 | prpplague | sjhill: howdy |
| 19:22:50 | sjhill | hey prpplague |
| 19:51:28 | CosmicPenguin | is not happy with VLC / VLS right about now |
| 19:53:41 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: oops |
| 19:54:21 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ?? |
| 19:54:37 | sorphin | * CosmicPenguin/#tuxscreen is not happy with VLC / VLS right about now |
| 19:54:50 | CosmicPenguin | right.... your point? |
| 19:55:03 | sorphin | n/m.. |
| 20:08:29 | scanline | is back (gone 07:56:15) |
| 21:16:04 | MonMotha | sorphin: pong! |
| 21:16:32 | Russ|werk | ping? |
| 21:19:44 | MonMotha | no I'm not actually lagged that much |
| 21:19:50 | MonMotha | I wasn't here when he pinged |
| 21:20:30 | MonMotha | legodude: this a 7 segment (number) display? |
| 21:22:52 | Xenoc | not if it's a 5x7 led display... |
| 21:23:25 | Xenoc | hmm. is there any way to brighten an LCD somehow? |
| 21:26:19 | CosmicPenguin | More power! |
| 21:26:46 | sorphin | MonMotha: back to ipv6 again (btw, updated yours ;) ) |
| 21:27:16 | Xenoc | CosmicPenguin: could the backlight (theoreticly) be replaced with a brighter one, and would that acctually brighten the lcd? |
| 21:27:48 | MonMotha | hum? |
| 21:28:14 | MonMotha | ok, it's just a 5x7 lcd, not 5x7 segment :) |
| 21:28:15 | MonMotha | er led |
| 21:28:29 | CosmicPenguin | Xenoc: I don't believe so - I think its an entirely integrated unit |
| 21:28:38 | sorphin | MonMotha: well, 1st you said yesterday to remind to you change your ipv6 |
| 21:28:46 | sorphin | MonMotha: 2nd.. you have a /64 right ? |
| 21:28:53 | Xenoc | CosmicPenguin: mmm, ok. |
| 21:28:54 | MonMotha | I have a /48 |
| 21:29:02 | MonMotha | heh, I was joking :) |
| 21:29:14 | MonMotha | I'm not even on ipv6 right now due to the horrible routing at he.net |
| 21:57:02 | sorphin | MonMotha: btw.. if you ever replied ot me, stupid BX lost it.. |
| 21:59:46 | MonMotha | sorphin: I have a/48 |
| 22:57:23 | cpenguin_home | good eveningall |
| 22:57:33 | cpenguin_home | s/eveningall/evening\ all/ |
| 23:24:35 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: dude |
| 23:25:09 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: dude |
| 23:25:22 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: dude your getting a linux box |
| 23:31:19 | cpenguin_home | dude: you're getting a EULA that is going to screw you and steal your dog |
| 23:31:43 | sorphin | dude, you're getting a pc w/ an OS that isn't installed ;) |
| 23:33:49 | cpenguin_home | refresh my memory: 3 * cluster / 2 |
| 23:33:54 | cpenguin_home | which operation happens first? |
| 23:34:47 | prpplague | should be left to right with * and / occuring at the same level |
| 23:35:00 | cpenguin_home | Ok |
| 23:35:19 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: of course for clarity you should do (3 * Cluster) / 2 |
| 23:35:33 | file | prpplague: do you think you'll ever get that TCSX-1 out? |
| 23:35:40 | prpplague | file: friday |
| 23:36:01 | prpplague | file: or else i going to take a road trip and bring it to ya, lol |
| 23:36:43 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: i'm a big believer in clarity in programming even if it isn't nessary |
| 23:37:51 | file | prpplague: lol |
| 23:38:08 | file | I don't know why I'm rushing you, I haven't a hub to plug it into |
| 23:38:21 | prpplague | file: i got one in the box |
| 23:38:42 | file | huh? |
| 23:38:57 | file | your sending a hub too? |
| 23:41:23 | thekernel | Does anyone know where to get replacement LCD screens? |
| 23:41:43 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: its not my code |
| 23:41:50 | file | thekernel: for the Tuxscreen? |
| 23:42:00 | thekernel | No, for my laptop :) |
| 23:42:04 | sorphin | ouch |
| 23:42:09 | thekernel | yeah |
| 23:42:11 | file | thekernel: erm, EBay? |
| 23:42:17 | sorphin | if you're lucky |
| 23:42:20 | prpplague | thekernel: http://www.earthlcd.com |
| 23:42:42 | prpplague | thekernel: warning their page sucks with linux browsers |
| 23:43:36 | file | probably on purpose |
| 23:44:28 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: sorry no dis-respect |
| 23:45:20 | thekernel | IE on Win XP is also having trouble... More so than Konqueror |
| 23:46:12 | thekernel | It's actually getting nowhere. |
| 23:46:45 | thekernel | I wonder if it would be cheaper just to get another one if my LCD really does have trouble. |
| 23:46:47 | file | prpplague : could you also include some super glue? |
| 23:47:12 | file | hasn't been able to find any |
| 23:50:13 | prpplague | file: hardware store doesn't have any epoxy? |
| 23:50:51 | file | hardware store not located with'in healthy biking radius |
| 23:51:05 | file | Warning: radius is extremely decreased due to current heat wave |
| 23:57:00 | prpplague | file: wuss |
| 23:57:26 | file | yup that's me |
| 23:57:51 | file | prpplague: thanks for the hub! |
