| 00:13:03 | sorphin | had no probs |
| 00:13:53 | sorphin | well |
| 00:13:55 | sorphin | i take that back |
| 00:13:56 | sorphin | i did |
| 00:13:58 | sorphin | but |
| 00:14:05 | sorphin | it was because my serial port wasn't initialized |
| 00:14:11 | sorphin | and inferno tries to open it |
| 00:14:14 | sorphin | even on install |
| 01:17:14 | MonMotha | damn inferno has been attempting to "installing directory /man/10" for a long time now |
| 01:23:28 | sorphin | hehe |
| 01:23:33 | sorphin | was fast here |
| 01:23:56 | sorphin | nad: ping |
| 01:23:59 | sorphin | andersee: ping |
| 01:24:03 | sorphin | stupid typing.. |
| 01:30:16 | MonMotha | well, this is a P133 |
| 01:32:19 | sorphin | shouldn't matter... |
| 01:32:53 | MonMotha | it says it was compiling some stuff... |
| 01:33:07 | MonMotha | Inferno Third Edition (18 Jun 2001) main (pid=15280) compile |
| 01:33:50 | sorphin | no |
| 01:34:11 | sorphin | that doesn't mean it's compiling ;p (unless it's limbo stuff) |
| 01:39:51 | sorphin | MonMotha: now i'm trying to find a close address giver.. |
| 01:41:42 | MonMotha | hung at "installing package /install/inferno/992875131.gz" on my P3-1GHz |
| 01:42:07 | MonMotha | does anyone just have a friggin tarball of it installed!? |
| 01:42:16 | sorphin | hodl on |
| 01:42:19 | sorphin | i'll make one |
| 01:42:27 | sorphin | w/ the latest update too |
| 01:47:07 | MonMotha | thanks :) |
| 01:47:25 | MonMotha | at this point it might just be easier to finish the JTAG and be done with it :) |
| 01:47:32 | sorphin | hehe |
| 01:47:42 | sorphin | it's 3M |
| 01:48:05 | sorphin | erm |
| 01:48:08 | sorphin | scratch that.. |
| 01:48:26 | sorphin | ouch |
| 01:48:29 | sorphin | 36M |
| 01:50:03 | sorphin | that'd take you a long time at 160k/sec :/ |
| 01:50:42 | MonMotha | I really don't care |
| 01:50:51 | sorphin | waht's that mean.. |
| 01:53:22 | MonMotha | ship it on over |
| 01:54:31 | MonMotha | I shouldn't need the whole thing though, I just need a bootloader console |
| 01:54:38 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:54:50 | sorphin | i have no idea how to strip it down to that :P |
| 01:55:03 | MonMotha | actually, I think I got it installed |
| 01:56:28 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:00:53 | MonMotha | maybe I shouldn't have played around with hdparm soo much |
| 02:01:08 | MonMotha | walked up to the console and it was full of kernel panics |
| 02:01:15 | sorphin | oops :P |
| 02:02:35 | prpplague | anyone what version of tiny-x is included in the tuxscreen buildroot? |
| 02:17:30 | MonMotha | [ ] blob-20020709 09-Jul-2002 02:28 31k <-- inferno shouldn't have a problem handling that since it's smaller than 32k, right? |
| 02:26:44 | MonMotha | ok, I've got infernoremote installed, but I don't see the "./inferno" command that the wiki mentions |
| 02:32:59 | MonMotha | those this motherfucker need to be chrooted or something? |
| 02:41:18 | MonMotha | anyone here? |
| 03:17:31 | MonMotha | they sure don't make these things easy to get apart... |
| 03:24:52 | MonMotha | sorphin: you here? |
| 05:23:17 | Russ | MonMotha: did you install inferno as a user into a dir in your home directory? |
| 05:23:35 | MonMotha | Russ: yep, ~/inferno has it installed |
| 05:24:38 | Russ | k, and then did you download the replacement for the excecutable |
| 05:25:15 | MonMotha | yep |
| 05:30:40 | MonMotha | any ideas? |
| 05:34:17 | MonMotha | needs to get to bed, but if you have any suggestions, please /msg me |
| 05:44:01 | Russ | then you run it? |
| 11:02:29 | CaCtus491 | evening |
| 13:04:17 | file | hey Tim |
| 13:04:21 | file | how goes it? |
| 13:06:21 | sorphin | file: no |
| 13:31:29 | cosmic_work | is back (gone 15:23:13) |
| 13:35:03 | pattieja | is back (gone 15:52:54) |
| 14:58:12 | kergoth | hey |
| 14:58:45 | sorphin | lo |
| 16:32:52 | MonMotha | continues to screw around with inferno remote... |
| 16:33:02 | sorphin | grins |
| 16:33:21 | sorphin | continues to modify flashing code |
| 16:35:40 | MonMotha | is about to just say screw it an jtag in blob |
| 16:35:49 | sorphin | chuckles.. |
| 16:35:53 | sorphin | how are you having probs? |
| 16:36:01 | MonMotha | 'cept they sure don't make it easy to get to the connector |
| 16:36:11 | MonMotha | sorphin: I don't know what to run |
| 16:36:16 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:36:18 | MonMotha | I don't have a binary "inferno" |
| 16:36:19 | sorphin | it's on the page dude |
| 16:36:23 | sorphin | yes you do |
| 16:36:49 | MonMotha | well I don't/// |
| 16:36:55 | MonMotha | maybe I SHOULD, but I don't |
| 16:37:12 | MonMotha | I've got like 60MB worth of stuff, and no "inferno" binray |
| 16:37:16 | MonMotha | binary |
| 16:37:18 | sorphin | hmm |
| 16:37:38 | sorphin | Linux/386/bin/inferno |
| 16:37:47 | sorphin | and btw |
| 16:37:55 | sorphin | as eric asked (i think it was him) |
| 16:38:10 | sorphin | if you got the USEABLE binary from the site :P |
| 16:38:17 | sorphin | ask in the tuxscreen site |
| 16:38:20 | sorphin | -k |
| 16:39:04 | sorphin | suggests rereading the page ;) |
| 16:39:12 | MonMotha | I thought it was Linux/386/bin/emu |
| 16:39:17 | sorphin | doh |
| 16:39:18 | sorphin | that's right |
| 16:39:22 | MonMotha | I've read the freakin wiki, and I don't have "infero" |
| 16:39:24 | MonMotha | just "emu" |
| 16:39:29 | sorphin | emu is what you want |
| 16:39:30 | sorphin | :P |
| 16:39:42 | sorphin | sorry, am tired |
| 16:39:45 | MonMotha | and when I run that: |
| 16:39:45 | MonMotha | monmotha@geekazoid:~/inferno$ Linux/386/bin/emu |
| 16:39:45 | MonMotha | Inferno Third Edition (19 Apr 2001) main (pid=1034) interp |
| 16:39:45 | MonMotha | Initialize Dis: /dis/emuinit.dis |
| 16:39:45 | MonMotha | panic: loading "/dis/emuinit.dis": file does not exist |
| 16:39:45 | MonMotha | Killed |
| 16:39:49 | sorphin | umm |
| 16:39:51 | sorphin | wrong |
| 16:39:52 | MonMotha | why is it looking in / |
| 16:39:58 | sorphin | you have to tell it a PATH |
| 16:40:01 | MonMotha | well, I don't have "inferno" |
| 16:40:09 | sorphin | Linux/386/bin/emu -rNOONON |
| 16:40:12 | sorphin | NONOON |
| 16:40:14 | sorphin | dammit |
| 16:40:16 | MonMotha | NONOON? |
| 16:40:19 | MonMotha | where's that from? |
| 16:40:21 | sorphin | sighs |
| 16:40:28 | sorphin | was saying NO NO NO :P |
| 16:40:38 | MonMotha | ah |
| 16:40:39 | sorphin | here's what you run :P |
| 16:40:39 | MonMotha | -r. |
| 16:40:41 | MonMotha | interest |
| 16:40:43 | MonMotha | ing |
| 16:40:46 | sorphin | yes |
| 16:40:46 | MonMotha | I have it up now... |
| 16:40:51 | MonMotha | didn't know about the chroot like thing |
| 16:40:56 | sorphin | umm |
| 16:40:56 | sorphin | yeah |
| 16:41:05 | sorphin | "inferno" is a script |
| 16:41:11 | sorphin | that does -r |
| 16:41:16 | sorphin | that's all |
| 16:41:36 | MonMotha | ah, you see I don't have said script :) |
| 16:41:43 | sorphin | i don't either |
| 16:41:53 | MonMotha | and sicne the page just says "start Inferno", I had no idea what the script was |
| 16:41:55 | sorphin | does the emu -r |
| 16:42:14 | sorphin | well, now you know ;p |
| 16:42:40 | sorphin | sjhill: make up your mind ;) |
| 16:43:10 | sjhill | waves at sorphin |
| 16:43:13 | sjhill | step inside flameboy |
| 16:43:22 | sorphin | eh? |
| 16:43:38 | sjhill | sorphin: it's from a Dilbert cartoon...nevermind |
| 16:43:47 | sorphin | musta missed that one |
| 16:43:56 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 17 hours, 22 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: MonMotha: because it is crap? [Wed Aug 7 00:21:28 2002] |
| 16:43:56 | sjhill | ibot: seen andersee |
| 16:44:07 | sjhill | *sigh* |
| 16:50:52 | prpplague | sjhill: hows it going today in the fun world of mips? |
| 16:51:57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the world of mips is real RISCy |
| 16:52:00 | CosmicPenguin | har har har |
| 16:52:09 | sjhill | prpplague: better, andersee and manuel helped me fix a bug...there's still problems with math functions and c++ for native toolchains |
| 16:52:36 | sjhill | lol @ CosmicPenguin |
| 16:52:42 | sjhill | i can't believed i laughed at that |
| 16:53:15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, thats awful, i've made some bad ones in my day, that one tops it |
| 16:53:34 | | I haven't seen 'bzflaf', Russ|werk |
| 16:53:34 | Russ|werk | ibot: seen bzflaf |
| 16:53:37 | | bzflag was last seen on #zaurus 2 days, 2 hours, 34 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: JasonNJ: I'll give it a look when I get back to the office. I might agree. [Mon Aug 5 15:19:03 2002] |
| 16:53:37 | Russ|werk | ibot: seen bzflag |
| 16:53:50 | Russ|werk | hah! he's been irc'iing while on vacation |
| 16:54:01 | sjhill | busted |
| 16:54:03 | Russ|werk | caught him red handed |
| 16:54:05 | MonMotha | ok...I've got my flash unlocked.. |
| 16:55:44 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: he was in here with the tag BZFlagModem when I came in at 8:30 MST |
| 16:56:04 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin is a tattle tail.... |
| 16:57:24 | prpplague | hmm, i'm wondering if its illegal be watching dvds while driving..... |
| 16:57:40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hopefully not - I do it all the time |
| 16:57:50 | sjhill | prpplague: fine with me, just let me know what road you're on so i'm not driving near you |
| 16:58:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but to be fair, I usually play something that I've already seen many times, so I don't have to *watch* it |
| 16:58:07 | CosmicPenguin | likes the white noise |
| 16:58:10 | prpplague | hopefully if i get pulled over the cop doesn't know what decss is, lol |
| 16:58:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i usually get some books on tape, but i went off and left them at the house this morning :( |
| 16:58:51 | CosmicPenguin | officer - not only am I danger to myself and others on the road, I'm violating federal law! |
| 16:59:01 | sorphin | MonMotha: cool |
| 16:59:17 | CosmicPenguin | listens to a lot of books on tape |
| 16:59:38 | sjhill | must be a California thing... |
| 16:59:47 | sjhill | only has a 5 minute commute |
| 16:59:54 | sorphin | must be nice |
| 16:59:55 | CosmicPenguin | my current favorite is LoTR on CD - it works out well when I drive to see my family in Wyoming |
| 17:00:00 | sorphin | has a 45min one |
| 17:00:18 | Russ|werk | I drove from phoenix, to sf, to bakersfield, to phoenix last weekend |
| 17:00:23 | Russ|werk | 1900 miles total |
| 17:00:27 | sjhill | ouch |
| 17:00:35 | CosmicPenguin | lives in Utah - where I have a 5 minute commute, but the individual towns are hours apart |
| 17:01:33 | sorphin | ok, which 5v mod do you guys recommend :P i was gonna do the lucent one, but was told b ysomeone else to do the 5v fixed one :P (i'd rather not be forced to keep one socket at 5v, i could do the switch bit i guess).. |
| 17:20:13 | MonMotha | c D!inferno.img F!all backs up inferno, right? |
| 17:24:39 | sorphin | wrong order |
| 17:24:56 | sorphin | that would write inferno.img to F!all ;) |
| 17:26:56 | MonMotha | I was thinking that, which would mean the wiki is wrong |
| 17:27:04 | MonMotha | InfernoRemote wiki, not InstallingLinux |
| 17:27:16 | MonMotha | InstalingLinux wiki says: c F!all D!inferno.backup |
| 17:27:33 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone else here ever use .MNGs? |
| 17:31:05 | sorphin | MonMotha: which is right |
| 17:31:25 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: eh? |
| 17:31:56 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.libmng.com/ |
| 17:32:03 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: animiated .PNGs (kinda) |
| 17:32:27 | sorphin | ugh |
| 17:32:37 | MonMotha | sorphin: so I'd saw we maybe should update the InfernoRemote page? |
| 17:32:39 | sorphin | as if animated gifs weren't enough |
| 17:32:57 | sorphin | MonMotha: lemme check it |
| 17:33:17 | MonMotha | takes forever at 38400bps |
| 17:33:23 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: i wanted to take some time to add a MNG editor to gimp |
| 17:33:39 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: that would be nice - all the .MNG crap I have seen has been M$ and costly |
| 17:34:01 | sorphin | MonMotha: no, it's not wrong |
| 17:34:05 | sorphin | read what it says |
| 17:34:11 | sorphin | To copy over a file from the local system you could type: |
| 17:34:12 | sorphin | c D!inferno.img F!all |
| 17:34:14 | sorphin | *from* |
| 17:34:19 | sorphin | not *to* |
| 17:34:41 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: is .MNG an acceptable replacement for animated GIFs, or is it just easier to use a "movie" strip of individual .PNG images? |
| 17:34:54 | MonMotha | sorphin: ok, so first it was wrong, then it was right? |
| 17:35:02 | sorphin | no |
| 17:35:05 | sorphin | YOU asked |
| 17:35:10 | sorphin | if that's the line you use |
| 17:35:13 | sorphin | to BACK UP inferno |
| 17:35:18 | MonMotha | oh, ok, nevermind |
| 17:35:21 | sorphin | ;) |
| 17:35:24 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: imho, replacement for animated GIFs, i don't believe it has enough compressions necessary |
| 17:35:45 | sorphin | MonMotha: same syntax as any copy command |
| 17:35:51 | MonMotha | at this point, why don't we just use mpeg? |
| 17:36:04 | MonMotha | though I guess that's lossy |
| 17:36:08 | MonMotha | which PNG isn't |
| 17:36:30 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha: No need to make a MPEG stream and all that crap just to show a quick animation of a file loading or something like that |
| 17:37:28 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: true |
| 17:40:12 | sorphin | what in the world are you wanting this for anyways? :P |
| 17:40:29 | MonMotha | sorphin: wanting what? |
| 17:40:42 | sorphin | animated whatever |
| 17:40:53 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: for a STB GUI.... people like shiny flashy things like animations, and since we can't use GIFs.... |
| 17:40:57 | MonMotha | I don't |
| 17:41:00 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: brought it up |
| 17:41:11 | sorphin | ughs |
| 17:41:23 | sorphin | HATES shiny flashy things |
| 17:41:32 | sorphin | but then, i generally hate guis too |
| 17:41:42 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: but will all due respect, we're not trying to sell this to you anyway |
| 17:41:57 | sorphin | chuckles |
| 17:42:08 | CosmicPenguin | we're trying to sell it to my mom - and she definately likes shiny flashy things |
| 17:42:13 | sorphin | that's fine, i haven't bough SW in years anyways ;) |
| 17:42:15 | sorphin | +t |
| 17:42:30 | CosmicPenguin | if sorphin wants a STB, he'll make his own damn hardware and program it |
| 17:42:43 | sorphin | wtf is an STB ? |
| 17:42:47 | CosmicPenguin | set top box |
| 17:42:50 | sorphin | ahh |
| 17:43:13 | sorphin | what platform? |
| 17:43:39 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.vtmt.com/html/vt100.html |
| 17:43:54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: and you're right about me making it myself *grin* |
| 17:44:05 | sorphin | gotta use this EE degree for somethin |
| 17:44:16 | CosmicPenguin | geeks != sales |
| 17:44:21 | sorphin | well |
| 17:44:25 | sorphin | not necessarily |
| 17:44:53 | sorphin | look how many geeks bought WSPs and IOs.. they just don't want the *service* |
| 17:46:04 | sorphin | click through to a tv channel? |
| 17:46:06 | sorphin | shivers |
| 17:49:10 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: what's it got for a cpu? |
| 17:50:51 | MonMotha | sorphin: and TIVOs! |
| 17:51:13 | sorphin | MonMotha: yeah |
| 17:51:24 | MonMotha | hum...I wonder... |
| 17:51:42 | sorphin | ? |
| 17:52:28 | MonMotha | nothing |
| 17:53:35 | MonMotha | 31k blob image shouldn't cause a problem for inferno, right? |
| 17:53:39 | sorphin | looks at /. and shrugs.. i just run linux, i don't care about selling it.. |
| 17:54:01 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: geode |
| 17:54:12 | sorphin | MonMotha: should be ok, it's > than 32k that's the prob |
| 17:54:18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nod |
| 17:59:27 | MonMotha | [ ] blob-20020709 09-Jul-2002 02:28 31k |
| 17:59:40 | MonMotha | yeah, 32k |
| 17:59:49 | MonMotha | that's the blob in v0.6 dir |
| 18:00:03 | sorphin | i didn't start that high myself |
| 18:00:14 | sorphin | flashed a low one, then high (like it says to) |
| 18:00:18 | sorphin | just in case |
| 18:00:36 | sorphin | but then, i had no one to tell me i could do otherwise.. and still don't *grin* |
| 18:01:10 | MonMotha | btw, any suggestions for getting the top board out? |
| 18:01:22 | sorphin | lift it at an angle |
| 18:01:29 | MonMotha | I took all the screws out and popped the connectors off, but still couldn't get it out |
| 18:01:34 | sorphin | tis easy |
| 18:01:39 | MonMotha | how much of an angle? don't want to bend the connectors... |
| 18:01:44 | sorphin | you won't |
| 18:01:54 | MonMotha | okie |
| 18:01:55 | sorphin | kinda lift and pull |
| 18:02:04 | sorphin | just had to take one apart again, was easier this time |
| 18:03:37 | MonMotha | well, I figure if I screw the bootloader up I can just finish building my jtag dongle :) |
| 18:03:44 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:03:52 | MonMotha | or massively huge board in this case :) |
| 18:04:03 | MonMotha | since it's on one of those huge radio shack proto boards |
| 18:04:09 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:07:43 | Russ|werk | I've had mine apart probably a dozen times |
| 18:08:19 | MonMotha | here goes |
| 18:08:23 | sorphin | hehe |
| 18:08:37 | sorphin | legodude_: eek, it's the trillianircer |
| 18:10:13 | MonMotha | should I get a ">>>" prompt back from inferno once I do the upload? |
| 18:10:25 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:10:57 | MonMotha | hum...I don't have one... |
| 18:11:10 | MonMotha | flash: 0-7fff: erasing/writing... flash: erasing boot area! (0-7fff) <--- but it erased my old one! |
| 18:11:16 | sorphin | umm |
| 18:11:26 | sorphin | actually |
| 18:11:29 | sorphin | no you won't get a prompt back |
| 18:11:35 | MonMotha | ok |
| 18:11:36 | sorphin | not thinking |
| 18:11:41 | sorphin | you give it a few mins |
| 18:11:41 | MonMotha | so just go whack the reset button? |
| 18:11:43 | sorphin | and reboot |
| 18:11:46 | MonMotha | ok |
| 18:11:47 | sorphin | rest won't work |
| 18:11:50 | sorphin | reset even |
| 18:11:56 | MonMotha | power cycle? |
| 18:12:05 | sorphin | aye |
| 18:12:08 | sorphin | but give it a couple |
| 18:12:09 | MonMotha | k |
| 18:12:09 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:12:13 | MonMotha | will do |
| 18:12:14 | sorphin | or you'll brick |
| 18:12:22 | MonMotha | thinks the CRL loader is a bit easier to install |
| 18:12:23 | sorphin | that's how tim has bricked before |
| 18:12:28 | MonMotha | though that's a function of bootblaster on WinCE |
| 18:12:35 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:12:46 | MonMotha | I'll admit the CRL guys have done a very good job |
| 18:12:54 | MonMotha | it's practially impossible to brick those things now |
| 18:12:59 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:13:02 | MonMotha | you have to try to do it and you'll still probably fail |
| 18:13:16 | MonMotha | however, it's a bit mroe difficult to jtag a new bootloader into your ipaq :) |
| 18:13:23 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:17:08 | MonMotha | hum, I never got a "<58?><terminal mode> " or similar |
| 18:17:17 | sorphin | don't worry abou that |
| 18:17:28 | sorphin | you do need to close the rdp tho |
| 18:17:43 | sorphin | once you have blob on there |
| 18:17:46 | sorphin | you don't use inferno |
| 18:18:08 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 18:19:04 | MonMotha | 115200 8N1, no flow control, for blob, right? |
| 18:19:34 | Russ|werk | right |
| 18:19:36 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:19:52 | MonMotha | k |
| 18:20:42 | MonMotha | apparently I can consider myself BLOBed |
| 18:21:01 | sorphin | coo |
| 18:22:04 | MonMotha | I think "Consider yourself LARTed" sounds cooler though ;-) |
| 18:22:22 | MonMotha | maybe we should change it to "Hey baby, this is shannon speaking..." |
| 18:22:28 | sorphin | oh gawd |
| 18:23:16 | MonMotha | http://tuxscreen.net/download/shanip2-pictures/shanip2-breadboard.jpeg <---that's the same breadboard I'm using, different stuff obviously |
| 18:23:21 | MonMotha | sorphin: it was a joke |
| 18:23:26 | MonMotha | and a really bad one at that |
| 18:23:36 | sorphin | esp since it wasn' named for a chick |
| 18:24:27 | MonMotha | sorry, only shannon's I've ever known have been members of that category |
| 18:24:43 | sorphin | that's the small version of the board i have |
| 18:24:56 | MonMotha | yeesh...you must have a huge breadboard |
| 18:25:02 | sorphin | yup |
| 18:25:05 | MonMotha | though I've got like 4 others |
| 18:25:47 | sorphin | mine's about 4 of those, and then a row or 2 at the edge by the conns |
| 18:26:05 | sorphin | make that 3 of those |
| 18:26:19 | MonMotha | wow...big breadboard |
| 18:26:32 | sorphin | well |
| 18:26:34 | sorphin | it was for school |
| 18:26:55 | MonMotha | ah |
| 18:27:29 | sorphin | ponders hitting up Maxim for a couple more samples |
| 18:28:29 | sorphin | has 2 3233's but no 3232s |
| 18:31:44 | MonMotha | heh...I should do that :) |
| 18:31:53 | MonMotha | cheaper than buying them, and then they get mailed to me! :) |
| 18:32:08 | sorphin | that's how i got the 3233s |
| 18:32:32 | sorphin | tho i don't even need em now |
| 19:02:04 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:02:12 | sorphin | wonder if my 3233s will work after all.. |
| 19:02:31 | sorphin | the major diff is the 3233 doesn't need external caps |
| 19:02:37 | sorphin | internal charge pump |
| 19:04:46 | sorphin | well, and the 3233 supports some autoshutdown plus hting.. |
| 19:17:14 | Russ|werk | kewl |
| 19:17:21 | Russ|werk | not that caps really cost much |
| 19:17:30 | sorphin | yeah |
| 19:17:41 | sorphin | less board space tho ;) |
| 19:18:02 | sorphin | gonna grab some 3232 samples tho, might as well have em around |
| 19:18:20 | sorphin | and sinc ei can request up to 8 things, i'm looking around *grin* |
| 19:32:24 | Fluxwerk | is away: Home |
| 20:11:41 | prpplague | Julie: identity crisis? |
| 20:12:21 | sorphin | have they ever even talked in here? :P |
| 20:12:45 | Julie | often has an identity crisis |
| 20:13:41 | sorphin | wow. life. |
| 20:14:29 | Julie | :-) |
| 20:14:42 | sorphin | and here i thought you were just another lurker ;) |
| 20:14:54 | Julie | I just have been really busy recently |
| 20:15:02 | Julie | I might even have a JOB! |
| 20:15:11 | sorphin | i need a new one of those |
| 20:15:17 | sorphin | the one i have sucks these days |
| 20:15:29 | Julie | at least you have one |
| 20:15:43 | sorphin | you can have mine ;) |
| 20:17:23 | sorphin | what kinda job are you getting/trying to get? |
| 20:17:34 | Julie | Network and admin work |
| 20:17:47 | sorphin | nod, just like the rest of us |
| 20:17:49 | Julie | checking up on routers and firewalls |
| 20:18:04 | sorphin | nods, bout like me |
| 20:18:29 | sorphin | is a hybrid unix admin/network boy/app engineer |
| 20:18:59 | MonMotha | routers and fireawlls? that's what I like :) |
| 20:19:04 | Julie | I kind of do it all too |
| 20:19:16 | Julie | I need to get back to programming full time though |
| 20:19:45 | sorphin | yeah |
| 20:21:43 | sorphin | what's your expertece? (gawd i can't spell today) |
| 20:22:09 | Julie | http://julie.MageNet.com/resume.pdf |
| 20:22:14 | Julie | easier to look at that |
| 20:22:26 | sorphin | nod |
| 20:23:19 | sorphin | wowsers |
| 20:23:46 | sorphin | doesn't feel so old anymore *grin* |
| 20:24:02 | Julie | thwap! |
| 20:24:07 | sorphin | :) |
| 20:24:10 | sorphin | i'm just kidding |
| 20:24:33 | sorphin | heh, in 1985, i was 10 :P |
| 20:25:00 | Julie | Don't remind me, I have a birthday this month |
| 20:25:43 | sorphin | pic is kinda small, but not bad :) and a geek no less :) ;) |
| 20:25:55 | Russ|werk | in 1985, I was 5 |
| 20:26:12 | sorphin | Russ|werk: youngin |
| 20:26:15 | sorphin | hell |
| 20:26:17 | sorphin | in 1985 |
| 20:26:21 | sorphin | file wasn't even born ;) |
| 20:27:46 | sorphin | thinks there's not enough female geeks ;) :) |
| 20:28:03 | MonMotha | not bad, seeing as how my only claim to fame was that I was mentioned in "Hacking Linux Exposed" as a security tool :) |
| 20:29:37 | Julie | I realized the other day I was still listed on http://odbc.postgresql.org as one of the old maintainers of that project |
| 20:29:50 | sorphin | MonMotha: hehe |
| 20:30:16 | sorphin | still ph33rs running sql anywhere on his network ;) |
| 20:30:17 | MonMotha | sorphin: I actually am, p 486 |
| 20:30:33 | MonMotha | which oddly enough is the first type of comp to run my firewall script :) |
| 20:31:19 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:36:46 | sorphin | Julie: what have you done w/ the tux? |
| 20:37:11 | Julie | Just messed around with it, I had Opie running off a nfs mount for a bit |
| 20:37:24 | Julie | then I re-did the machine with the nfs mount and forgot to backup my work |
| 20:37:32 | Julie | so right now it just does phone stuff |
| 20:39:14 | sorphin | what is Opie ? |
| 20:39:31 | Julie | a more open version of qtopia |
| 20:41:11 | MonMotha | opie.handhelds.org |
| 20:41:24 | sorphin | looks it up (since i don't know what qtopia is either ;) ) |
| 20:42:03 | sorphin | ah |
| 20:42:05 | sorphin | nother gui |
| 20:42:06 | Julie | qtopia is the trolltech ui for embedded devices |
| 20:42:14 | sorphin | so i see |
| 20:42:55 | sorphin | wonders when people are gonna get repeatative stress injuries from all this clicking (their fingers) |
| 20:42:57 | sorphin | ;) |
| 20:43:45 | | qtopia is the new name for QPE and it is at qpe.sourceforge.net or a more well developed and binary compatable fork of qtopia is opie |
| 20:43:45 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: qtopia |
| 20:44:41 | pattieja | OPIE=Open Palmtop Integrated Environment |
| 20:44:53 | pattieja | http://opie.handhelds.org |
| 20:45:01 | Julie | I really should make it work again on the tux |
| 20:45:12 | Julie | Other than no touchscreen driver it worked well |
| 20:45:32 | Julie | I haven't been paying attention recently did they work out the 32 Meg sodimm thing yet? |
| 20:45:44 | Julie | It looked like it was going to be fixed by someone at one point |
| 20:47:12 | MonMotha | the touchscreen works in X, right? |
| 20:47:32 | Julie | I haven't had a working touchscreen driver in ages in any of the GUI's |
| 20:47:39 | Julie | so I kind of just gave up hope |
| 20:51:40 | Russ|werk | the touchscreen works in X, yes |
| 20:52:09 | MonMotha | OPIE can draw to X now I thought... |
| 20:52:51 | Julie | you can run them together on the ipaq |
| 20:53:01 | Julie | but I can't see it working well on the tux without more ram |
| 20:53:20 | Julie | with 8 meg of ram I barely had enough to do trivial things with opie |
| 20:53:27 | Julie | with 40 meg of ram it would work better |
| 20:53:52 | kergoth | qt is a bit of a hog |
| 20:54:28 | Russ|werk | for 40M of ram to work without a special kernel, the initial 4M mapping needs to be made more intelligent |
| 20:54:47 | Julie | I thought someone was working on that |
| 20:54:53 | Russ|werk | eitheir stiching the first small chunks together |
| 20:54:59 | Julie | at least at one point on the list they claimed to have it working |
| 20:55:01 | Russ|werk | or choosing the first 4M chunk it finds |
| 20:55:28 | Russ|werk | well, the hack is changing the kernel address from 0xc0000000 to 0xd0000000, which requiers a special blob and kernel |
| 20:55:30 | Russ|werk | but works |
| 20:55:45 | file | there |
| 20:55:51 | file | I can now browse the net on the laptop across my room |
| 20:56:03 | Russ|werk | file: you can read the font? |
| 20:56:13 | file | Russ: yup |
| 20:56:15 | Russ|werk | do you use binoculars, or really big fonts? |
| 20:56:25 | file | normal font :p |
| 20:56:36 | Russ|werk | and do you use a long stick to press the keys? |
| 20:56:42 | Julie | I got the SGI monitor working with my PC |
| 20:56:44 | Julie | kinda cool |
| 20:56:45 | Russ|werk | have you trained an animal to do it? |
| 20:56:46 | file | I run to the other side |
| 20:57:01 | Russ|werk | oooh...you actually go *to* the laptop |
| 20:57:07 | file | yes |
| 20:57:13 | file | I didn't say I didn't |
| 20:57:36 | Russ|werk | I was being difficult |
| 20:57:41 | file | I know |
| 21:00:48 | Julie | dinner time, I'll chat with you good folks later |
| 21:01:18 | file | I want a new proxy program... |
| 21:01:22 | file | so mIRC will work... |
| 21:05:31 | Russ|werk | file: you mean DCC send? |
| 21:06:23 | file | Russ|werk : no, normal connecting |
| 21:06:25 | file | anywho - bbl |
| 21:06:39 | Russ|werk | file: no NAT? |
| 22:02:52 | CosmicPenguin | is away: home to watch Simpsons S2 |
| 22:48:08 | ][N-Flux | hey hey hey |
| 22:48:22 | ][N-Flux | Anyone gotten wireless working on the tux screen |
| 23:20:09 | Aelhaz | Yep, pretty sure someone has |
| 23:23:30 | Aelhaz | orinoco_cs doesn't work, you can xcompile wlan_ng and that allegedly works |
| 23:23:41 | Aelhaz | no need to worry about wireless tools, wlan_ng can't use them anyway |
| 23:24:21 | Aelhaz | Freeman Pascal says he got something working, dunno what |
| 23:26:30 | sorphin | will prolly use his proxim cards eventually |
| 23:26:55 | Aelhaz | you can even use a tux as an access point |
| 23:29:28 | sorphin | will prolly never have any 802.11, too expensive, esp considering most of my network can't be wireless |
| 23:30:12 | Aelhaz | too epensive? |
| 23:30:28 | Aelhaz | $35 per nic is too expensive? |
| 23:31:25 | sorphin | it is when as i said, most of my network can't be wireless so i cant' justify it (and i'd have to get an AP for bridging) |
| 23:33:28 | Aelhaz | you could use your tux as an AP |
| 23:33:37 | sorphin | heh |
| 23:33:43 | Aelhaz | but if you don't have a notebook with some real battery life, it's pointless |
| 23:33:58 | sorphin | has an A21p thinkpad |
| 23:34:05 | sorphin | but my proxim cards do well enough |
| 23:34:32 | sorphin | they're only 1Mbit, but considering my link, that's fine.. (1M dsl).. |
| 23:34:49 | Aelhaz | oof, symphony cards? |
| 23:35:11 | sorphin | yup |
| 23:36:16 | sorphin | tis actually how i have my mom's machine upstairs hooked to the net.. no way in hell am i buying her 802.11 so she can saturate my link :P (and again, it's pointless, since as i said, 90% of my network can't go wireless) |
| 23:36:29 | sorphin | and i have a switch i'd rather not waste :) |
| 23:36:35 | Aelhaz | http://store.yahoo.com/justdeals/proxsymcorga.html |
| 23:37:24 | sorphin | already have a proxim symph bridge |
| 23:37:34 | sorphin | well, it's the gateway config'd as a bridge |
| 23:37:53 | sorphin | oh, i guess i should point out my other reason i don't need 802.11 |
| 23:38:03 | sorphin | most of my network is in a 7' rack, next to me |
| 23:38:43 | Aelhaz | ah |
