| 00:19:19 | mark | what's the channel for newbies? |
| 00:19:27 | mark | to linux that is |
| 00:22:23 | prpplague | mark: linuxnewbies? |
| 00:23:08 | mark | thanks prpplague |
| 00:24:28 | prpplague | mark: hang on let me check |
| 00:24:36 | prpplague | mark: i was being a smart ass |
| 00:25:30 | prpplague | mark: try #linuxhelp |
| 00:25:47 | prpplague | mark: just make sure you think about your question before you ask |
| 00:26:02 | prpplague | mark: some of the so called gurus can be a little elitist |
| 00:27:03 | mark | thanks prplague.. I was the only one in linuxnewbie |
| 00:28:10 | prpplague | mark: np, goodluck |
| 00:46:01 | MonMotha | is there an easy place to tap 3.3V in an AT system? |
| 00:51:55 | prpplague | at or atx? |
| 00:52:24 | MonMotha | at |
| 00:52:27 | MonMotha | as I said ) |
| 00:52:28 | MonMotha | :) |
| 00:52:32 | legodude | doesn't PCI run at 3.3v? |
| 00:52:34 | MonMotha | so no, it's not coming right out of the PSU |
| 00:53:06 | prpplague | no IIRC at doesn't have a 3.3v easy to get to |
| 00:53:33 | MonMotha | well, modifying the motherboard is perfectly fine |
| 00:53:44 | MonMotha | I assume there's a +3.3 on there somewhere |
| 00:53:50 | legodude | pci! |
| 00:54:31 | prpplague | just check the pci specs and see whats there |
| 00:55:35 | legodude | hrm |
| 00:55:39 | legodude | seems to be 5v actually |
| 00:55:51 | legodude | damnation |
| 00:56:12 | legodude | agp has 3.3v it seems |
| 00:56:49 | prpplague | hmm, unless you have a board that supports a atx ps i don't think your gonna get 3.3v easily |
| 00:56:49 | legodude | AGPx1, 124 pin (voltage coded), 66MHz, 266MByte/s, 1x32bit word per clock cycle, 3.3V |
| 00:56:50 | legodude | AGPx2, 124 pin (voltage coded), 66MHz, 533MByte/s, 2x32bit word per clock cycle, 3.3V |
| 00:57:20 | prpplague | hmm, i don't think i've seen an agp slot on a non-atx mb |
| 00:57:29 | legodude | I have |
| 00:57:42 | legodude | it's fairly common |
| 00:58:37 | MonMotha | nope, no AGP slot |
| 00:58:38 | MonMotha | it's a P133 |
| 00:58:50 | MonMotha | needs 3.3V for his jtag |
| 00:59:07 | legodude | Intel P133 |
| 00:59:07 | legodude | 3.3V |
| 00:59:07 | legodude | 1-2 |
| 00:59:07 | legodude | 2-3 |
| 00:59:07 | legodude | 1-2 |
| 00:59:08 | legodude | 1-2 |
| 00:59:10 | legodude | |
| 00:59:15 | legodude | Vcore is 3.3v |
| 00:59:18 | legodude | tap into that |
| 00:59:23 | legodude | or just get a linear regulator |
| 01:15:12 | prpplague | legodude: i said easily |
| 01:16:11 | prpplague | MonMotha: if your gonna tap into your core voltage your going have to find the cpu regulator have do some testing |
| 01:16:36 | prpplague | MonMotha: i'd say just go find a nice 3.3v wall wort |
| 01:16:41 | MonMotha | prpplague: hum... |
| 01:20:50 | MonMotha | are there no more tuxscreens left? |
| 01:26:38 | prpplague | MonMotha: bz said there about 15 left thursday |
| 01:27:05 | MonMotha | already has one :) |
| 01:46:57 | MonMotha | aren't more DIMMs 3.3V? |
| 01:47:53 | MonMotha | s/more/most |
| 01:51:00 | MonMotha | legodude: any suggestions on how to use said linear regulator? |
| 01:51:05 | MonMotha | isn't all that good with electronics |
| 02:24:31 | scanline | is back (gone 07:23:44) |
| 05:23:59 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 05:43:47 | as_ | Hi sorphin, how goes? |
| 13:06:31 | sorphin | allo prp |
| 13:09:21 | prpplague | sorphin: morning |
| 13:15:44 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 13:16:32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: dude |
| 13:16:50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: like, whats all that payroll and credit card info doing on your ftp server? |
| 13:17:16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: eh? |
| 13:18:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: jk, i was snooping on your anonftp this weekend |
| 13:18:16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ahh - not much interesting out there, huh? |
| 13:18:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so have you got a copy of the code for the viper project? |
| 13:19:09 | CosmicPenguin | viper project? |
| 13:19:16 | CosmicPenguin | is way too confused this morning |
| 13:19:33 | prpplague | http://www.tuxia.org |
| 13:19:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: check it out |
| 13:19:49 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ohhh - ok. I knew it by other names |
| 13:20:12 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah - that got our CEO all sorts of scared at Comdex last year - its basically just our window manager with a collection of the FLTK demos |
| 13:20:21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, so you where any of the code still exists? |
| 13:21:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, so that leads to the next question, which components of pixil are gpl? |
| 13:21:12 | sorphin | grins |
| 13:21:29 | sorphin | prpplague: didn't i see your credit card info in there? ;) |
| 13:21:40 | prpplague | sorphin: lol, probably |
| 13:23:00 | prpplague | sjhill: hey, are you using any fltk for your mips platforms? |
| 13:23:16 | prpplague | is on a fltk crusade this week |
| 13:23:37 | sorphin | good thing i don't even know what it is then ;) |
| 13:24:58 | sorphin | has enough ppl rampaging him.. i feel like i'm in the game rampage :P |
| 13:27:20 | sjhill | prpplague: nope |
| 13:29:28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: first question - there should still be a tuxia server somewhere in Oz. I beileve they still have a small group active |
| 13:30:43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: Secondly - On the pixil rootfs - the only things that were GPL were busybox and tinylogin. Microwindows was MPL, two of the games are mine and are GPL (with a special license to century), FLTK is LGPL, and ViewML is GPL |
| 13:30:58 | CosmicPenguin | Everything else was propriatary |
| 13:34:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i've searched up and down for the viper project on the Oz area with no luck |
| 13:34:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what other name did you know it as? |
| 13:49:03 | file | prpplagu? |
| 13:49:07 | file | prpplague? |
| 13:49:24 | prpplague | file: yes? |
| 13:49:36 | file | what's up? |
| 13:50:10 | prpplague | ssdd |
| 13:50:31 | file | any chance of getting the TCSX-1 out today? MUAHAHAHA |
| 13:50:43 | | ACTION file: no |
| 13:50:43 | sorphin | ibot tell file |
| 13:50:57 | file | sorphin: I reject your answer |
| 13:51:05 | | ACTION file: no |
| 13:51:05 | sorphin | ibot tell file |
| 13:51:18 | sorphin | same thing prp will say ;) |
| 13:51:31 | file | sorphin : prpplague just does that to annoy me :p |
| 13:51:59 | sorphin | then me and prplague have something in common ;) |
| 13:52:31 | file | sorphin : I think you killed him! |
| 13:52:47 | sorphin | nah |
| 13:53:00 | sorphin | is saving that for you later |
| 13:53:24 | file | sorphin : help me poke him |
| 13:54:07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm.... it was something snake related, but not viper.... |
| 13:54:11 | CosmicPenguin | can't remember |
| 13:54:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmmmmm |
| 13:54:29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lemme see if we downloaded it anywhere, and I'll send it to you |
| 13:54:35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well thats alot of help! lol |
| 13:54:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: jk |
| 13:54:54 | file | whimpers |
| 13:54:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'd appreciate it |
| 13:55:51 | file | tomorrow... tomorrow |
| 13:57:29 | sorphin | just chuckles at file |
| 13:57:52 | file | :p |
| 13:57:56 | sorphin | rm -f file |
| 13:58:08 | file | no thanks, I don't want to be deleted |
| 13:58:14 | sorphin | too bad |
| 13:58:19 | sorphin | that's why i -f'd you |
| 13:58:26 | sorphin | forces you to be deleted |
| 13:58:36 | file | you can't force me, I reside in the kernel |
| 13:58:46 | file | god bless AI |
| 13:58:50 | file | :p |
| 13:58:57 | sorphin | scrambles your inodes |
| 13:59:22 | CosmicPenguin | file: even AI fears the power button.... |
| 13:59:38 | file | I'll just transfer myself to another computer - backup you know |
| 14:00:06 | sorphin | backups? we don't need to steenkin backups ;) |
| 14:00:15 | file | too bad :p[ |
| 14:01:04 | sorphin | manipulates things so file NEVER gets his device ;p |
| 14:01:13 | file | sorphin : which one? |
| 14:01:20 | file | laptop or TSCX-1? |
| 14:01:23 | sorphin | yes. |
| 14:01:25 | sorphin | all. |
| 14:01:33 | file | injects sorphin with Windows source code |
| 14:01:46 | sorphin | is immune |
| 14:01:50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, just got off the phone with a tuxia rep, he tried to tell me that viper was propreitary |
| 14:05:33 | file | so... |
| 14:06:12 | file | tomorrow is another day... |
| 14:08:47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lemme tell you - we were at Comdex, and we found a brochure for the Tuxia stuff... anyway, Greg got all worked up, because the brochure made it appear that they had a much better PIM suite than we did at that point |
| 14:09:22 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, so we stroll over to the Tuxia booth, and Greg introduces himself, and I get a look at the PIM suite on their Ipaq - and the first thing I notice is that they have two games |
| 14:09:46 | CosmicPenguin | One of them is Doom (which Greg ported), and the other is my nxsnake program (the same one I ported to the Tuxscreen) |
| 14:10:00 | file | haha |
| 14:10:10 | file | did you say you made that nxsnake program? |
| 14:10:14 | CosmicPenguin | file: yep |
| 14:10:20 | file | what did they say? |
| 14:10:29 | Fluxwerk | doom on the tux :) |
| 14:11:10 | CosmicPenguin | file: They said that they found it on the web - that was legit, becuase it was GPL |
| 14:11:24 | file | CosmicPenguin : hehe - I thought they'd say, wow - good job |
| 14:11:36 | sorphin | heh |
| 14:12:03 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway - I keep looking, and all of their programs seem to be very familiar. I couldn't put my finger on it until I realized that they were exact copies of the FLTK demos |
| 14:12:19 | file | lol |
| 14:13:16 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: doh |
| 14:14:04 | Fluxwerk | hey BZFlag |
| 14:14:08 | sorphin | is it live or is it memorex |
| 14:14:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, well i found the original authors non-tuxia email address |
| 14:14:37 | file | waves to BZFlag |
| 14:14:38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i send him a mail |
| 14:14:49 | prpplague | BZFlag: you know the story on tuxia? |
| 14:14:50 | CosmicPenguin | But to end on a positive note - I was very impressed with the work that Tuxia put into the nano-X port for Mozilla.... good stuff there |
| 14:15:10 | CosmicPenguin | They really had us scared until they went belly up |
| 14:15:27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 14:15:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well i guess i'm gonna have to start my own fltk pim project |
| 14:16:18 | BZFlag | tuxia? nope. |
| 14:16:34 | BZFlag | is on modem access at the moment. on the road. |
| 14:16:43 | sorphin | BZFlag: i as just gonna ask ;) |
| 14:16:47 | sorphin | +w |
| 14:16:57 | file | BZFlag: Well it's good to see that your still alive |
| 14:17:39 | Fluxwerk | BZFlag: did you get the Z before you left? |
| 14:17:56 | BZFlag | Fluxwerk: nope. the neighbors are watching for it though. ;-) |
| 14:18:46 | file | watches everyday for his laptop |
| 14:18:50 | Fluxwerk | BZFlag: o.k. I gave you the tracking # and stuff |
| 14:18:58 | sorphin | it's never gonna show, lost in transit |
| 14:19:00 | Fluxwerk | file: still no lappie huh :/ |
| 14:19:02 | file | except weekends and holidays |
| 14:19:07 | file | Fluxwerk: it's a Holiday |
| 14:19:24 | Fluxwerk | npe 7th is a holiday |
| 14:19:27 | Fluxwerk | will be 30 |
| 14:19:35 | sorphin | Fluxwerk: old man |
| 14:19:38 | sorphin | ;) |
| 14:19:39 | Fluxwerk | indeed |
| 14:19:45 | sorphin | isn't far behind tho |
| 14:19:45 | Fluxwerk | get me my walker and teeth |
| 14:19:50 | sorphin | turned 27 this june |
| 14:20:04 | file | turns 16 on October 6th |
| 14:20:06 | sorphin | passes you your cane to abse file |
| 14:20:13 | sorphin | abuse |
| 14:20:13 | Fluxwerk | file is the kid of the group |
| 14:20:19 | file | Fluxwerk: yes |
| 14:20:21 | sorphin | kiddie |
| 14:20:24 | sorphin | +script |
| 14:22:04 | file | stares at sorphin |
| 14:22:11 | file | see what you did - you killed the conversation! |
| 14:24:01 | Fluxwerk | so what's everyone getting me :) |
| 14:24:23 | file | Fluxwerk: eh er uh a copy of my Cybiko Web Browser? |
| 14:24:23 | Fluxwerk | would like a Libretto L2 plz |
| 14:24:36 | legodude | oh god |
| 14:24:38 | legodude | those are amazing |
| 14:24:49 | Fluxwerk | file: I need another one, but noone has dropped the prices yet, that second one is all messed up |
| 14:24:57 | file | Fluxwerk: that sucks |
| 14:25:19 | Fluxwerk | yeah, not a big deal, I'll keep looking |
| 14:25:19 | file | Fluxwerk: what did you do to it? |
| 14:25:32 | Fluxwerk | file, that is the one that wouldn't charge right |
| 14:25:48 | Fluxwerk | doesn't network well either, kinda flakey |
| 14:26:02 | Fluxwerk | legodude: Libretto's rock |
| 14:26:18 | Fluxwerk | I'm in serious need of a laptop upgrade, lack of cash though |
| 14:26:21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'll be willing to help with a FLTK PIM - you know my feelings about Pixil and all the rest.... |
| 14:26:38 | file | Fluxwerk: I want my laptop... don't remind me |
| 14:27:55 | Fluxwerk | laptop |
| 14:27:59 | legodude | hugs his laptop |
| 14:28:00 | Fluxwerk | laptoplaptop ;) |
| 14:28:12 | file | crys |
| 14:28:13 | Fluxwerk | likes his old armade m300 |
| 14:28:20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: did you ever get a chance to try that Matchbox patch? |
| 14:28:59 | file | I'd like my thinkpad if I had it in my hands |
| 14:29:41 | legodude | what kinda thinkpad? |
| 14:29:54 | file | legodude: 560 |
| 14:30:09 | legodude | that's an early pentium? |
| 14:30:14 | file | yes |
| 14:30:24 | legodude | I have some parts from those in my parts bin |
| 14:30:30 | sorphin | lurves his A21p |
| 14:30:37 | legodude | my 240 0wns |
| 14:30:40 | legodude | 3lbs baby |
| 14:31:00 | sorphin | 15" screen |
| 14:31:06 | file | uh huh |
| 14:31:14 | legodude | I can take it with me without breaking myself |
| 14:31:15 | sorphin | 1280x1024 of pure gaming ;) |
| 14:31:33 | sorphin | legodude: unless it's a dell, of course you can ;) |
| 14:31:34 | legodude | 800x600 of pure portableness |
| 14:31:48 | sorphin | this thing is only 3-4 lbs i think |
| 14:32:08 | legodude | you sure?: |
| 14:32:11 | legodude | that's pretty amazing |
| 14:32:15 | sorphin | checks ibm |
| 14:32:37 | legodude | 7.5 |
| 14:32:38 | sorphin | my old vaio was 3lbs w/ battery |
| 14:32:42 | sorphin | ah well |
| 14:32:46 | legodude | more than all of my laptops combined |
| 14:32:50 | sorphin | 7.5 isn't THAT bad ;p |
| 14:32:53 | sorphin | i don't notice it |
| 14:32:54 | legodude | ugh |
| 14:33:02 | legodude | I'm a weakling so I notice |
| 14:33:05 | sorphin | ahh |
| 14:33:27 | sorphin | needs to decide on this vacation shiz |
| 14:34:47 | sorphin | that's the only thing i hate.. actually planning the vacation :P |
| 14:34:59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got it patched and compilied but not had a chance to install it on my thinclient test box |
| 14:35:05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: maybe this afternoon |
| 14:35:56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: don't expect it to do anything amazing - it should work just like the old version |
| 14:37:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok |
| 14:39:31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: basically, just make sure that it doesn't crash horribly |
| 14:39:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, i guess since i can't find anything out there, i'm going to have to do the same type of thing as the viper project |
| 14:39:44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, i'll check it out |
| 14:39:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'll give it to one of our secretaries |
| 14:40:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ouch |
| 14:40:49 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we should get together later and discuss a PIM suite project a bit more - having been in the trenches, there are right and wrong ways to go about it |
| 14:48:27 | file | pokes Fluxwerk, prpplague, and CosmicPenguin |
| 14:53:33 | CosmicPenguin | pokes back |
| 14:53:47 | file | CosmicPenguin : do you have my laptop? |
| 14:54:51 | CosmicPenguin | file: nope - I tried to the USPS and asked them to send it via llama, but it cost too much |
| 14:55:07 | file | CosmicPenguin : that sucks |
| 14:55:19 | Fluxwerk | ow |
| 14:55:24 | Fluxwerk | working :) |
| 14:55:32 | file | Fluxwerk: haha |
| 14:55:55 | file | should be working |
| 14:56:04 | file | I've given myself a deadline of two weeks to get my browser done |
| 14:58:00 | Fluxwerk | go go go |
| 14:59:28 | Fluxwerk | it got sent to abudabi with Nermal ;) |
| 15:47:04 | CosmicPenguin | is auditing his code looking for calloc() bugs |
| 15:58:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok back, ya i'd like to get together on the PIMS |
| 15:58:48 | file | prpplague: wb |
| 16:25:37 | CosmicPenguin | does the glibc have a web based CVS viewer? |
| 16:26:06 | CosmicPenguin | answers his own question |
| 17:02:21 | legodude | is there a good howto for setting up the devel environment for tuxscreen? |
| 17:05:30 | CosmicPenguin | cvs co buildroot-tux |
| 17:05:35 | CosmicPenguin | cd buildroot-tux; make |
| 17:05:54 | CosmicPenguin | There is no third thing |
| 17:13:04 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: just use the gcc from LART? |
| 17:19:09 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: the buildroot automatically downloads and builds its own gcc |
| 17:20:30 | legodude | aw nice |
| 17:20:35 | legodude | that's so ueber |
| 17:20:45 | legodude | goes to install cvs on his machine and get going |
| 17:20:54 | legodude | thanks for the help CosmicPenguin |
| 17:23:23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: so, would there be a conflict of interest if you work on a fltk project for PIMS |
| 17:25:13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not unless we can prove that the project is taking actual revenue away from Century |
| 17:33:03 | Fluxwerk | way way way tooooooooo hto out |
| 17:33:13 | Fluxwerk | hot too |
| 17:55:42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmmm, well if i don't hear back from the viper team in a day or so, i see about kicking something off |
| 18:14:43 | CosmicPenguin | hmm.... are any of our resident X experts hanging about today? |
| 18:25:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: isn't that xperts ? |
| 18:30:36 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, I guess... :) |
| 18:32:04 | legodude | that's horrible |
| 18:32:13 | legodude | really, really, awful |
| 18:35:45 | Morn | hey all |
| 18:35:51 | legodude | how long does a full cvs update take? |
| 18:50:48 | legodude | bzcat /home/legodude/buildroot-tux/sources/dl/patch-2.4.18-rmk6.bz2 | patch -d /home/legodude/buildroot-tux/build/linux -p1 |
| 18:50:48 | legodude | Looks like a unified context diff. |
| 18:50:48 | legodude | File to patch: |
| 18:50:52 | legodude | what do I do here? |
| 18:52:19 | legodude | do I need gnu patch? |
| 18:52:33 | CosmicPenguin | you don't have patch on your machine? |
| 18:52:47 | legodude | I think I do |
| 18:52:49 | legodude | let me check |
| 18:53:14 | legodude | I have it |
| 18:53:31 | legodude | but it's solaris patch |
| 18:54:13 | legodude | ultra30:~$ which patch |
| 18:54:25 | legodude | doh |
| 18:54:27 | legodude | ultra30:~$ which patch |
| 18:54:32 | legodude | ultra30:~$ which patch |
| 18:54:32 | legodude | \/usr/bin/patch |
| 18:54:55 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: does it require gnu patch? |
| 18:55:45 | legodude | and who is in charge of the main makefile? |
| 18:56:12 | legodude | I think they should change cp -a to cp -dpR for better compatibility with Solaris and other systems |
| 18:56:38 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: it does need the GNU patch, and andersee is the maintainer for that |
| 18:57:20 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: and thats a very good idea. I'll make a patch and send it to the tuxscreen mailing list |
| 18:57:23 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: do you know if I can interrupt the make at that spot, install gnu patch, and then get it going? |
| 18:57:29 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: yes you can |
| 18:57:32 | legodude | thanks CosmicPenguin |
| 19:00:09 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: actually, keep track of any changes you make for solaris - and we can make a single patch for all of the fixes |
| 19:00:18 | legodude | will do |
| 19:00:25 | legodude | I'll do the same for Irix when I get that up and running |
| 19:02:10 | CosmicPenguin | wonders how well it will work on Solaris |
| 19:03:56 | legodude | main problem is that, even with fast disks, my U30 is a slow machine so it will take a while to compile |
| 19:05:48 | legodude | goes to play ddr while the machine goes |
| 19:06:29 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: sadly - The build even takes a while with my 1.9Ghz Athlon |
| 19:24:08 | MonMotha | well, got my tux |
| 19:25:32 | mallum | jacques_gone: ping |
| 19:47:11 | CosmicPenguin | mallum! How goes things? |
| 19:47:30 | file | offers mallu ma TCSX-1 |
| 19:47:34 | file | er mallum a |
| 19:49:45 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: for one it seems to need a completely gnu build chain |
| 19:51:24 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: Won't uclibc build correctly? |
| 19:51:38 | legodude | my "Linux in a Nutshell" doesn't even say what the -r option for grep does |
| 19:51:41 | Fluxwerk | is away: Sliding down the dino, and into my car... |
| 19:51:48 | legodude | it bombs when trying to grep something |
| 19:52:42 | DarkDream | GAROU JE T'ATTENDS: LARVE |
| 19:53:37 | legodude | that is supposed to recurse |
| 19:54:59 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: -r is recursive |
| 19:55:08 | legodude | ja |
| 19:55:09 | legodude | got that |
| 19:55:36 | legodude | I'll just have to install gnu grep also |
| 19:57:02 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ok |
| 19:57:08 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: well actually not OK |
| 19:58:13 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I bought a new cpu for my desktop on saturday, plugged it in, nothing - fiddle about a bit - still nothing, put old cpu in , now nothing - reset cmos - nothing - today I baught new mother board , still nothing with that and both cpu's :((((( |
| 19:58:34 | file | mallum: did you put them in right? |
| 19:59:27 | file | bbl |
| 20:02:00 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: doh - I hate it when that happens |
| 20:02:17 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: it doesn't seem to have recovered after grep fux0ring |
| 20:02:50 | legodude | time for make clean I guess |
| 20:04:17 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: another thing - you'll probably need bash or a bash look alike for the script |
| 20:04:24 | legodude | I've got bash |
| 20:04:28 | legodude | but it ain't /bin/sh |
| 20:04:37 | legodude | will that cause problems you think? |
| 20:06:18 | legodude | wtf |
| 20:06:23 | legodude | is totally confused |
| 20:07:19 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: hmmm.... thats a great question |
| 20:07:26 | CosmicPenguin | wonders how Make picks its sell |
| 20:07:31 | CosmicPenguin | s/sell/shell |
| 20:07:43 | legodude | now cp -dpR ain't working |
| 20:07:44 | legodude | argh |
| 20:07:51 | legodude | that so worked before |
| 20:08:20 | legodude | it says there is no d |
| 20:08:22 | legodude | -d |
| 20:08:27 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: in order to use bash, stick a SHELL=<path to bash> at the top ofthe Makefile |
| 20:08:37 | legodude | thanks |
| 20:09:12 | legodude | time for more gnuisms |
| 20:11:00 | prpplague | andersee: evening |
| 20:11:07 | andersee | evening |
| 20:12:02 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: legodude is attempting a great feat - compiling buildroot-tux on Solaris |
| 20:12:27 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: wow, that does sound interesting. |
| 20:12:40 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I bet it should work w/o too much pain |
| 20:12:42 | legodude | oh yes |
| 20:12:44 | legodude | "interesting" |
| 20:13:35 | legodude | basically you have to install gnu everything to get anywhere |
| 20:15:10 | legodude | and the makefile does not like being interrupted |
| 20:15:23 | legodude | and I got to a point where make clean would not work |
| 20:15:32 | legodude | so I had to delete everything and start again |
| 20:18:07 | legodude | wants a sgi 540 |
| 20:22:41 | legodude | "Rap is Square Dancing gone terribly, terribly Wrong...." |
| 20:22:41 | legodude | - Barry Keeney |
| 20:22:52 | andersee | legodude: I want one of those Powermac Dual 1Ghz G4 powerpc boxes... |
| 20:22:58 | legodude | nice |
| 20:23:00 | legodude | but too much $ |
| 20:23:21 | legodude | for comparable monies a pc will smoke it |
| 20:23:25 | legodude | speedwise |
| 20:24:02 | andersee | perhaps. dunno. I just want a powerpc devel box... |
| 20:24:09 | legodude | ahso |
| 20:24:13 | legodude | I'd love to have one |
| 20:24:19 | legodude | but not for that monies |
| 20:24:39 | legodude | maybe that amiga g3 board will be nice/cheap |
| 20:24:40 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: imac + yellowdog? :) |
| 20:24:48 | legodude | old imacs are cheap |
| 20:24:55 | legodude | or how about a rs/6000? |
| 20:25:00 | legodude | or if you're hardcore, a BeBox |
| 20:26:57 | legodude | quiver, ddr for pc, quiver |
| 20:31:12 | andersee | I wonder what sortof powerpc hardware is on ebay |
| 20:31:20 | legodude | lots |
| 20:31:22 | legodude | tons of macs |
| 20:31:25 | legodude | rs6ks |
| 20:31:29 | legodude | beboxen |
| 20:31:35 | legodude | amiga upgrade things |
| 20:31:39 | legodude | dev kits |
| 20:56:00 | warewolf | bzflag not around? |
| 20:56:51 | CosmicPenguin | would rather have a mips platform |
| 20:56:57 | legodude | sgi! |
| 20:57:00 | legodude | argh |
| 20:57:02 | legodude | more problems |
| 20:57:09 | legodude | date doesn't work right |
| 20:57:23 | legodude | and there is no "install" program |
| 20:58:00 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: doh - I guess we should copy over the configure install.sh? |
| 20:58:32 | legodude | ? |
| 20:58:50 | legodude | what install.sh? |
| 20:58:56 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: but I already have a mips box... :) |
| 20:59:00 | prpplague | anyone know of an ocr package that reads barcodes? |
| 20:59:38 | warewolf | n/wii toor |
| 20:59:39 | warewolf | er |
| 21:07:55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you mean scan in a bar code and then read it? |
| 21:08:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya scan it on a flatbed scanner as an image and then use a ocr to read just the barcode number |
| 21:09:05 | prpplague | i see lots of packages for winblows, but nothing for linux |
| 21:15:44 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: do you know where to get a copy of the install program? |
| 21:16:50 | legodude | hrm |
| 21:16:54 | legodude | fileutils should have it |
| 21:17:42 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: any package with the autoconf utilty should have it |
| 21:17:58 | legodude | I installed both autoconf and fileutils |
| 21:18:04 | legodude | but they were from sunfreeware.com |
| 21:18:10 | legodude | not source packages |
| 21:18:28 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: but its a really easy program - install is esentially an intellegent copy |
| 21:18:35 | legodude | ja |
| 21:18:38 | legodude | I just read that |
| 21:18:43 | legodude | won't overwrite stuff and whatnot |
| 21:19:12 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: http://www.rt.com/man/install.1.html |
| 21:19:28 | legodude | ja |
| 21:19:38 | legodude | I'll just have to compile gnu fileutils from source |
| 21:20:54 | legodude | CosmicPenguin do you know if the date program is required? |
| 21:21:06 | legodude | make -C libc/sysdeps/linux/arm headers |
| 21:21:06 | legodude | date: illegal option -- - |
| 21:21:06 | legodude | date: illegal option -- t |
| 21:21:06 | legodude | date: illegal option -- c |
| 21:21:06 | legodude | usage: date [-u] mmddHHMM[[cc]yy][.SS] |
| 21:21:06 | legodude | date [-u] [+format] |
| 21:21:08 | legodude | date -a [-]sss[.fff] |
| 21:21:10 | legodude | make[2]: Entering directory `/home/legodude/buildroot-tux/build/uClibc/libc/sysdeps/linux/arm' |
| 21:24:13 | andersee | legodude: date is just used to create a timestamp. Remove 'BUILDTIME' from Rules.mak |
| 21:24:25 | legodude | thanks andersee |
| 21:26:37 | andersee | It actually isn't used anywhere in uClibc. I'll remove that from the uClibc CVS tree now. |
| 21:26:50 | legodude | nice |
| 21:27:06 | legodude | does all of this software do self-tests to make sure the compile went well? |
| 21:28:05 | andersee | legodude: well, it is hard to self-test on an x86 box when cross compiling for arm... |
| 21:28:34 | legodude | I know |
| 21:28:40 | legodude | that's why I was wondering |
| 21:28:59 | legodude | Ultrasparc box in my case :) |
| 21:30:02 | andersee | So in general, no, there are no self-tests. There are only tests of the capabilities and headers of the build system. |
| 21:30:12 | legodude | okay |
| 21:30:27 | legodude | I see some error messages during the install and wonder if those will mess stuff up |
| 21:35:16 | legodude | gcc is building... |
| 21:35:44 | legodude | the scripts are smart enough to detect if stuff like gcc is installed if I want to wipe buildroot-tux and start again, correct? |
| 21:38:21 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: did uclibc have any of the overflow problems that seem to be affecting other libcs today? |
| 21:56:38 | CosmicPenguin | anyway, time to head home |
| 21:56:57 | cosmic_work | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
| 22:19:58 | legodude | shit |
| 22:20:03 | legodude | power problems up the ass |
| 22:20:17 | legodude | major brownout |
| 22:20:29 | file | where are you? |
| 22:20:46 | legodude | detroit area |
| 22:20:48 | legodude | fux0r |
| 22:20:54 | file | ic |
| 22:20:58 | legodude | damnit |
| 22:23:34 | legodude | shit |
| 22:23:36 | legodude | there goes power |
| 22:45:15 | MonMotha | now to install linux on my tux... |
| 22:47:02 | jacques | mallum: hi :-) |
| 22:52:00 | Nermal | hey |