| 00:38:20 | kergoth | re |
| 08:55:21 | switchcat | greetings |
| 13:33:31 | file | hi prpplague |
| 13:33:37 | prpplague | morning |
| 14:22:12 | dougs | hello everyone |
| 14:44:43 | | CosmicPenguin was last seen on #tuxscreen 2 days, 1 hours, 7 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: Ok - evolution has pissed me off for the last time [Fri Aug 2 14:37:13 2002] |
| 14:44:43 | prpplague | ibot: seen CosmicPenguin |
| 16:14:22 | dougs | Hello everyone. Anyone? |
| 16:15:44 | prpplague | anyone anyone, ferris can you answer that? |
| 16:16:00 | prpplague | dougs: kinda slow on sundays around here until aroun 10pm cst |
| 16:29:45 | | TomW was last seen on #tuxscreen 32 days, 11 hours, 40 minutes and 51 seconds ago, saying: ah well, bedtime, later all. [Wed Jul 3 05:48:54 2002] |
| 16:29:45 | prpplague | ibot: seen TomW |
| 16:55:54 | dougs | kinda slow myself--kids were calling |
| 17:27:52 | AlHaz | oh, I'm here, for whatever that's worth |
| 17:28:50 | AlHaz | I've got an idea for a cheap/easy jtag dongle that might work with the tux, but i don't know much about the electrical needs of strongarms |
| 17:29:29 | AlHaz | I built a jtag dongle for an STMicro based box out of a 74ls244 and three resistor networks - total cost including a db25 hood & whatnot was about $5 |
| 17:29:39 | AlHaz | took a half hour to build |
| 17:30:37 | AlHaz | 'course, the STMicro can be jtag'd with five 100ohm resistors, which would have done bad things to a strongarm |
| 17:31:25 | prpplague | AlHaz: interesting |
| 17:31:45 | prpplague | AlHaz: you think it can be used with other strongarm packages? |
| 18:20:52 | AlHaz | prpplague: The pinout it uses on the parallel port is different, but it should be easy enough to adjust it so that it signals the same way the holly gates jtag does |
| 18:21:19 | AlHaz | prpplague: mine looks like this - http://rubix.areb.org/newjtag-bottom.jpg http://rubix.areb.org/newjtag-top.jpg |
| 18:22:07 | AlHaz | it really ought to be built with a 74HCT part instead of a 74LS part, but the 74LS works anyway. |
| 18:22:27 | AlHaz | (and my local supplier was fresh out of HCT, HC, and C versions) |
| 18:22:43 | file | that sucks |
| 18:23:43 | AlHaz | it's not my design, but it's so easy to make, and I'm pretty sure how to adjust it for use w/ a tux . . . |
| 18:23:55 | prpplague | AlHaz: hmm, i've got a project in the works that i'll need a jtag |
| 18:24:40 | AlHaz | prpplague: this design came from, ah, a group of satelite television enthusiasts |
| 18:24:52 | prpplague | AlHaz: for, but i want it cheap and easy |
| 18:25:23 | AlHaz | prpplague: This was definately cheap and easy - hold on and I'll get you a url for the diagrams, etc |
| 18:25:47 | prpplague | AlHaz: thanks |
| 18:26:31 | file | why does Monday have to be a holiday... I want my laptop ASAP |
| 18:26:59 | AlHaz | prpplague: http://rubix.areb.org/small_buffered_jtag_v1.2.zip |
| 18:27:10 | AlHaz | prpplague: includes an RTF .doc and some jpegs |
| 18:27:31 | prpplague | bookmarks |
| 18:27:45 | AlHaz | prpplague: uses pins 2, 3, 4, 5, and 13 of the pport, where the holly gates jtag hooks up to 2, 3, 4, and 11 |
| 18:27:46 | file | prpplague : how ges your work? |
| 18:27:54 | AlHaz | prpplague: should be an easy adjustment |
| 18:28:03 | AlHaz | and won't need the two loose resistors for a tux or lart |
| 18:28:09 | AlHaz | since those don't need the nRST line |
| 18:28:13 | prpplague | file: fine now that i got the jamaicans off my back |
| 18:28:28 | prpplague | AlHaz: cool |
| 18:28:45 | prpplague | AlHaz: can i order about 500 units from ya? |
| 18:28:48 | prpplague | AlHaz: lol |
| 18:28:49 | AlHaz | prpplague: My local electronics shop sold me the resistor networks for 30 cents |
| 18:28:54 | file | prpplague : nice |
| 18:28:56 | AlHaz | heh, no, but I'd be willing to sell people kits |
| 18:29:03 | MonMotha | yeah, I need to find a 74HC244 to build mine |
| 18:29:13 | MonMotha | I've got the proto board all wired up, but I lack the IC :) |
| 18:29:25 | AlHaz | since I have a fairly amiable local supplier |
| 18:29:38 | prpplague | AlHaz: cool, i'll keep ya in mind |
| 18:29:47 | AlHaz | MonMotha: this design doesn't use a pcb - check it out - http://rubix.areb.org/newjtag-bottom.jpg |
| 18:30:07 | AlHaz | helps to have nimble fingers or a few sets of alligator clips to get it built, tho |
| 18:30:25 | MonMotha | AlHaz: I have the same design I think |
| 18:30:37 | MonMotha | you don't need a PCB to build it, but I had a proto board handy so I used it |
| 18:30:39 | prpplague | AlHaz: intersting |
| 18:30:39 | AlHaz | prpplague: I should build one and test it with one of my phones |
| 18:30:54 | prpplague | AlHaz: cool, i'd like to know how it works |
| 18:31:15 | prpplague | AlHaz: i'm working on a project that i'd like to bring alot of ppl on board with |
| 18:31:25 | AlHaz | prpplague: gimme a job :) |
| 18:31:37 | AlHaz | (hey, I have to ask) |
| 18:31:45 | prpplague | AlHaz: so if you get a kit configured, i'll see about using it |
| 18:32:03 | AlHaz | OK, I'll letcha know |
| 18:32:29 | prpplague | AlHaz: i know you still looking, i've got about 10 embedded guys resume's that i've been handing out when i can |
| 18:34:17 | prpplague | anyone know what the story with tuxia is? |
| 18:34:48 | file | negative |
| 18:34:56 | file | That information is unavailable. |
| 18:36:57 | prpplague | i can't believe the code is just gone |
| 18:38:20 | AlHaz | prpplague: Thanks |
| 18:38:21 | AlHaz | tuxia? |
| 18:38:34 | prpplague | and embedded linux company |
| 18:38:39 | AlHaz | ah |
| 18:38:50 | prpplague | they had a fltk package similiar to pixil |
| 18:39:06 | AlHaz | months ago i had a nibble from an embedded linux company . . . . but all of their correspondance made them seem, evil. |
| 18:39:16 | AlHaz | so i vigorously did not persue them |
| 18:39:20 | AlHaz | maybe I should have |
| 18:39:22 | AlHaz | *Shrug* |
| 18:39:25 | prpplague | AlHaz: ya i think you told me about that |
| 18:39:50 | AlHaz | probably |
| 18:40:58 | Nolan | Hmm |
| 18:41:34 | Nolan | So, what's the deal with the phones in the topic? I'm fairly ignorant about phones, though running Linux on one would be interesting. |
| 18:42:01 | | i guess tuxscreen is http://TuxScreen.net/ order at http://tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Users/TimRiker and http://tuxscreen.net/scrapbook/images.html or #TuxScreen |
| 18:42:01 | prpplague | ibot: tuxscreen |
| 18:42:35 | prpplague | Nolan: the tuxscreen is strongarm based system that just happens to look like a phone |
| 18:42:39 | AlHaz | i haven't done anything with my phones in quite a while, I should try out the picogui app for them |
| 18:42:59 | prpplague | Nolan: most of use the tuxscreen for developing hardware and software for other projects |
| 18:43:05 | file | YEAH!!!! PICOGUI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:43:27 | Nolan | prpplague: Ah, so it isn't a cellphone? :) |
| 18:43:28 | prpplague | Nolan: a comperable strongarm development system could cost as much as $3000 |
| 18:44:58 | prpplague | Nolan: and most ppl are not apt to tinker too much with a $3000 board whereas a $99 ppl become a little more brave |
| 18:45:27 | prpplague | argh i want to find this viper code |
| 18:45:37 | file | prpplague : you will find it |
| 18:46:09 | prpplague | file: someone must have this posted somewhere |
| 18:46:15 | Nolan | So how is it that they're so inexpensive? |
| 18:46:53 | file | Nolan: they just are |
| 18:47:24 | MonMotha | anyone have a link to a good description of JTAG? |
| 18:48:01 | prpplague | Nolan: they were a test run of a consumer product form phillips, when the project was canceled tim riker aka BZFlag purchase the prototypes |
| 18:48:26 | Nolan | Ah. |
| 18:48:47 | file | hits himself over the head with a hub |
| 18:49:05 | MonMotha | nice consumer product I will say... |
| 18:49:12 | MonMotha | 206MHz phone with pcmcia slots? :) |
| 18:49:27 | prpplague | yep |
| 18:49:41 | file | I'd like a TCSX-1 more |
| 18:49:47 | file | but that's just my strange ways |
| 18:50:28 | file | finds a neat web hosting company |
| 18:55:12 | AlHaz | MonMotha: the IEEE specification is 1149.1 |
| 18:55:44 | AlHaz | MonMotha: so you could google search for ieee-1149.1 |
| 18:55:47 | MonMotha | ah, nice |
| 19:00:48 | scanline | is away: Sleeping.. but the clowns might eat me! |
| 20:55:09 | file | Welcome home prpplague |
| 20:55:17 | prpplague | thanks |
| 20:55:35 | prpplague | file: how did you know i was at home? my ip? |
| 20:56:10 | file | prpplague : correct |
| 20:56:15 | file | prpplague : I notice those things |
| 20:56:48 | prpplague | file: hmm, i think you know too much about if you can idientify my ip address |
| 20:56:57 | file | prpplague : uh huh |
| 20:57:21 | file | I also know your provider is Longview Cable |
| 20:57:46 | file | prpplague : around Longview Texas? |
| 20:57:50 | prpplague | file: damit, your starting to sounds like a stalker |
| 20:58:02 | file | ;) |
| 20:58:50 | prpplague | file: how the hell you know that, you got my system r00ted |
| 20:58:56 | file | prpplague : haha |
| 20:59:32 | file | I know many things |
| 21:00:53 | prpplague | file: ok so how do you my cable provider? |
| 21:01:17 | file | prpplague : I just do |
| 21:01:50 | file | prpplague : actually I did a whois on your IP |
| 21:02:04 | prpplague | file: ya but all that shows is lctv |
| 21:02:32 | file | Longview Cable (NETBLK-NIPC-2) NIPC-2 |
| 21:02:43 | file | prpplague : I also know your address and phone number |
| 21:03:06 | prpplague | hmm, i don't get that |
| 21:03:06 | file | laughs evily |
| 21:03:28 | prpplague | file: ya you know my name and city, it doesn't take much to get the rest |
| 21:03:36 | file | prpplague : yup |
| 21:03:44 | prpplague | file: but can you get the floor plans of my house? |
| 21:03:50 | file | prpplague : nah |
| 21:03:55 | file | I don't ry that much |
| 21:03:56 | file | er try |
| 21:04:11 | prpplague | file: why there are on the net if you know where to look |
| 21:04:22 | file | prpplague : I know that, but I don't care that much |
| 21:05:33 | prpplague | file: what command did you use on the whois, i'm nothing getting the same info |
| 21:05:49 | file | prpplague : just whois |
| 21:06:03 | prpplague | with the full ip or domain name? |
| 21:06:08 | file | prpplague : full ip |
| 21:06:27 | file | your near a pond/lake/river? |
| 21:06:38 | prpplague | file: they are all over |
| 21:06:40 | prpplague | file: why? |
| 21:06:47 | file | prpplague : interesting |
| 21:07:55 | prpplague | file: do tell |
| 21:08:11 | file | it's not like that here... |
| 21:08:17 | file | just one river |
| 21:08:50 | file | around here that is |
| 21:21:27 | Russ | we have a river |
| 21:21:38 | Russ | but its dry 99.9% of the time |
| 21:31:51 | prpplague | Russ: ya well you live in the desert... |
| 21:33:53 | prpplague | file: i'm up to 172 beers....... |
| 21:34:14 | file | prpplague: good |
| 21:34:58 | file | offers prpplague another beer |
| 21:35:20 | prpplague | file is one i've not had before? |
| 21:35:28 | file | yes |
| 21:41:35 | prpplague | file: whihc one? |
| 21:41:44 | file | prpplague : PicoGUI one |
| 21:41:52 | file | prpplague : specially made! |
| 22:03:36 | prpplague | file: picogui pilsner, a robust brew full of flavor without the heavy after taste |
