| 00:01:31 | MonMotha | I believe you have my stapler |
| 00:01:42 | prpplague | Russ|werk: aaahh, yaaa, i'm gonna neeed ya to come in on saturday |
| 00:02:04 | Russ|werk | heh |
| 00:03:46 | prpplague | Russ|werk: too bad CosmicPenguin isn't around he'd appreciate this too |
| 00:04:46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm here - |
| 00:05:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, don't sneak on ppl like that |
| 00:05:52 | CosmicPenguin | sorry |
| 00:06:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: get anywhere on mallums xml parser? |
| 00:06:44 | file | hi prpplague |
| 00:07:20 | | ACTION file: no |
| 00:07:20 | sorphin | ibot: tell file |
| 00:08:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: still working on it |
| 00:09:35 | | ACTION file: no |
| 00:09:35 | prpplague | ibot: tell file |
| 00:09:43 | prpplague | file: how goes it |
| 00:10:00 | prpplague | file: life lots of fun in the wonderful world of ca? |
| 00:10:57 | file | is fine |
| 00:10:59 | file | just coding |
| 00:11:06 | file | tracking down memory leaks and such |
| 00:12:29 | file | there |
| 00:12:33 | file | finishes something |
| 00:16:08 | CosmicPenguin | how mysterious |
| 00:16:31 | file | hoping my laptop will come todmorrow |
| 00:16:33 | file | er tomorrow |
| 00:17:03 | sorphin | calls his contacts at UPS ;p |
| 00:17:51 | file | sorphin : it wasn't shipped UPS |
| 00:18:03 | file | I'd have been broke if it had been |
| 00:18:14 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:19:46 | andersee | is back (gone 04:53:10) |
| 00:20:24 | prpplague | andersee: aryalegul? |
| 00:21:08 | andersee | prpplague: car passes safety and emissions. So I need to go to the DMV tomorrow, pay more money, and get the little stickers that say I'm legal |
| 00:21:13 | file | enough coding for tonight |
| 00:24:05 | file | I will convert my old widgets over tomorrow... finish focus stuff... |
| 00:24:08 | file | put in the html parser |
| 00:24:10 | file | and get back to work! |
| 00:24:14 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: go in sometime between 10:30 and 11:00 - its a ghost town then |
| 00:25:29 | prpplague | andersee: and about that time they are more likely to accept bribes, lol |
| 00:26:21 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:26:26 | sorphin | prpplague: talking from experience? ;) |
| 00:26:36 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 00:27:00 | prpplague | sorphin: jk, i'm in texas, try to bribe a dps officer down here and you'd probably get shot dead |
| 00:27:20 | sorphin | prpplague: i figured you'd get shot no matter who you bribed |
| 00:28:17 | prpplague | sorphin: ya but i'm not kidding around here, the last convenience store robber where the criminal got away ALIVE was about 2 years ago |
| 00:32:23 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:32:56 | prpplague | hmm, got a serious problem here....... |
| 00:33:14 | prpplague | only two beers left in the fridge |
| 00:33:15 | ][N-Flux | file: it's never coming :) |
| 00:33:24 | file | ][N-Flux : :p |
| 00:33:30 | sorphin | ]: did you misroute it again? |
| 00:33:34 | ][N-Flux | NEVER :) |
| 00:33:41 | | ACTION file: no |
| 00:33:41 | sorphin | ibot tell file |
| 00:33:49 | file | ][N-Flux : then I won'toffer you a copy of my web browser for the Cybiko :p |
| 00:34:21 | ][N-Flux | aw man |
| 00:34:27 | ][N-Flux | cries |
| 00:34:31 | file | notes it parsed Google fine |
| 00:34:47 | ][N-Flux | ponders a serial connection to his tux |
| 00:35:08 | ][N-Flux | I just wanna play, and can't wait to roder the nic |
| 00:35:56 | sorphin | ][N-Flux: do you even have a cybiko? (which looks like a walkie talkie on crack btw) |
| 00:36:14 | ][N-Flux | I have a few |
| 00:36:23 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:36:23 | ][N-Flux | one is all messed up though :) |
| 00:36:25 | sorphin | why? |
| 00:36:27 | ][N-Flux | need more |
| 00:36:33 | sorphin | it looks.. well, like a walkie talkie on crack |
| 00:36:37 | file | ][N-Flux : get 'em quick |
| 00:36:42 | ][N-Flux | they were $10 each ca't complain |
| 00:36:54 | ][N-Flux | file: waiting for the other staples here to drop the price |
| 00:37:01 | file | ][N-Flux : aye |
| 00:37:07 | sorphin | wtf is it supposed to be? |
| 00:37:12 | file | sorphin : anything... |
| 00:37:13 | sorphin | couldn't tell from that damn page |
| 00:37:16 | ][N-Flux | it's a pda |
| 00:37:26 | ][N-Flux | nice device |
| 00:37:32 | file | sorphin : it can run games, apps, send messages wirelessly, browse wap pages... check e-mail... |
| 00:37:36 | sorphin | someone point me at a DECENT pic then |
| 00:37:42 | sorphin | cuz the ones i saw... |
| 00:37:44 | sorphin | shivers |
| 00:37:57 | ][N-Flux | wanna see the guts? |
| 00:38:14 | file | ][N-Flux dissected his Xtreme... |
| 00:38:14 | ][N-Flux | http://www.wobedraggled.com/Pics/cybikoopen.jpg |
| 00:38:44 | sorphin | and the non-guts? |
| 00:38:48 | ][N-Flux | naw |
| 00:38:54 | ][N-Flux | no pic of the non guts :) |
| 00:39:10 | file | sorphin : just search for Cybiko Xtreme on Google Images |
| 00:39:21 | ][N-Flux | http://www.wobedraggled.com/Pics/lg_rahman_all.jpg <-----ow |
| 00:39:26 | sorphin | bah |
| 00:40:06 | sorphin | oen thing that woulda been nice had it actually been released was Kerbango |
| 00:40:16 | prpplague | ][N-Flux: thats nothing, i've had worse than that on my eye, lol |
| 00:40:20 | ][N-Flux | ew |
| 00:40:30 | ][N-Flux | I saw that fight |
| 00:40:38 | ][N-Flux | it was like a cartoon |
| 00:41:16 | sorphin | man |
| 00:41:24 | sorphin | this thing is.. nasty lookin.. |
| 00:41:29 | sorphin | needs bigger screen |
| 00:41:39 | ][N-Flux | it's a nice device |
| 00:41:44 | ][N-Flux | belive me |
| 00:42:21 | ][N-Flux | so, should I make a serial connection to my tux |
| 00:42:48 | sorphin | did |
| 00:42:56 | ][N-Flux | or have some patience |
| 00:43:01 | prpplague | sorphin: what it needs is linux |
| 00:43:11 | sorphin | prpplague: what it needs is a bigger damn screen |
| 00:43:22 | sorphin | looks like a scanner/walkie talkie on crack |
| 00:43:26 | prpplague | sorphin: and a non-proprietary expansion slot |
| 00:44:01 | sorphin | ;) |
| 00:44:09 | prpplague | sorphin: we looked at using it as an realtime inventory control device |
| 00:44:21 | sorphin | handspring ;p |
| 00:44:29 | sorphin | just plug in it's barcode scanner |
| 00:44:30 | sorphin | grins |
| 00:44:33 | prpplague | sorphin: too restrictive and no rf |
| 00:44:58 | sorphin | nod |
| 00:45:07 | sorphin | how much? ;p |
| 00:45:08 | file | I'm the one who introduced prpplague to Cybikos... |
| 00:45:27 | ][N-Flux | damn file :) |
| 00:45:33 | sorphin | fears |
| 00:45:52 | prpplague | sorphin: if we bought in bulk it would have been around $140 with scanner |
| 00:46:11 | sorphin | means the cybiko |
| 00:46:51 | file | I got mine for free |
| 00:46:56 | prpplague | argh, anyone watching this chick on cbs? |
| 00:47:05 | sorphin | file: heh |
| 00:47:14 | sorphin | prpplague: chick? watching superman IV here.. |
| 00:47:21 | file | prpplague : one smoking a cigar? |
| 00:47:27 | prpplague | file: ya |
| 00:47:28 | sorphin | ah.. |
| 00:47:37 | file | watches |
| 00:47:38 | sorphin | cute, but obviously fscked in the head |
| 00:47:56 | prpplague | file: scaaaaaaary |
| 00:48:07 | file | give me a laptop in that house, and I'd be fine |
| 00:48:25 | prpplague | what is that show anyway? i was fliping channels |
| 00:48:28 | ][N-Flux | reality shows blow chunks |
| 00:48:31 | file | prpplague : Big Brother 2 |
| 00:48:39 | sorphin | 3 |
| 00:48:39 | file | prpplague : know what it is? want me to explain? |
| 00:48:42 | file | yeah, 3 |
| 00:48:50 | file | I never watched 2.. so it's 2 for me |
| 00:49:01 | sorphin | never watched any of them |
| 00:49:07 | sorphin | generally avoids the networks |
| 00:49:14 | file | they started charging for viewing them online |
| 00:49:42 | file | oh my, it's almost 11 |
| 00:49:52 | sorphin | no it's not |
| 00:50:00 | file | 11pm for me |
| 00:50:03 | sorphin | umm |
| 00:50:16 | sorphin | you must be way the hell east in canada ;p |
| 00:50:17 | prpplague | file: no no explaination nessary |
| 00:50:26 | sorphin | almost 9pm here |
| 00:50:32 | file | sorphin : I'm in the maritimes |
| 00:50:35 | prpplague | hmm, "firefly" hmmm seems interesting |
| 00:50:40 | file | ATZ... |
| 00:50:54 | sorphin | file: ah |
| 00:51:15 | ][N-Flux | prpplague: it seems like all the fox shows are from the creator of.... this fall |
| 00:51:25 | ][N-Flux | alot of rubbish |
| 00:51:32 | ][N-Flux | but firefly looks promising |
| 00:51:35 | file | switches to Junkyard Wars |
| 00:51:59 | file | old episode... bleh |
| 00:52:22 | prpplague | hmm law&order is starting |
| 00:53:15 | ][N-Flux | blah |
| 00:53:18 | ][N-Flux | is bored |
| 00:53:26 | ][N-Flux | gonna go play something |
| 00:53:35 | prpplague | xbill? |
| 00:53:40 | ][N-Flux | naw |
| 00:53:48 | ][N-Flux | xbill needs a 3d port |
| 00:54:03 | ][N-Flux | maybe resident evil |
| 00:54:14 | ][N-Flux | ponders |
| 00:54:35 | file | pokes ][N-Flux |
| 00:54:36 | prpplague | i want leisure suit larry for linux |
| 00:54:53 | prpplague | argh, no law&order |
| 00:55:17 | ][N-Flux | prpplague: isn't there an interpreter for the seirra games |
| 00:56:02 | prpplague | don't know |
| 00:56:12 | ][N-Flux | I think there is |
| 00:56:14 | ][N-Flux | scumm |
| 00:56:17 | ][N-Flux | I think |
| 00:56:20 | prpplague | has been swampped with accounting db software for 6 months |
| 00:57:05 | ][N-Flux | scumm is for the lucasart's games |
| 00:57:15 | ][N-Flux | there is one though |
| 00:57:18 | ][N-Flux | I know it |
| 00:57:45 | ][N-Flux | http://freshmeat.net/projects/freesci/?topic_id=80 |
| 00:57:48 | ][N-Flux | BAM |
| 00:57:55 | ][N-Flux | FreeSCI |
| 01:00:16 | CosmicPenguin | too... much... code... |
| 01:05:51 | scanline | is away: cleaning my room, brb (taking WOPN with me on my Zaurus :) |
| 01:06:25 | sorphin | hasn't went anywhere near "WOPN" and isn't sure he ever will ;p |
| 01:07:10 | CosmicPenguin | shouldn't have typed cvs update in the matchbox src directory |
| 01:07:15 | sorphin | oops ;p |
| 01:16:45 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo - only 25 compile errors |
| 01:23:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fun |
| 01:40:05 | scanline | is back (gone 00:34:14) |
| 01:49:56 | sorphin | allo tim |
| 01:56:54 | MonMotha | hum, what's usually the best place to tap the SMBus? DIMM slot? |
| 01:57:05 | MonMotha | ah, hey tim |
| 01:57:42 | sorphin | that's a good place, yeah |
| 01:58:19 | MonMotha | my P3 board has marked smbus connectors on the board, btu I'm not about to hook up my tinkering devices to my good machine |
| 01:58:40 | sorphin | hehe |
| 01:58:41 | sorphin | yeah |
| 01:59:32 | MonMotha | hum, does the PCI bus haev it on them too? |
| 01:59:38 | MonMotha | the PCI connectors that is |
| 01:59:39 | prpplague | sorphin: ha, someone tried to robbe a convenience store this evening, he was shot dead with 8 guns shot wounds |
| 02:00:26 | sorphin | ouch |
| 02:00:32 | MonMotha | now that sucks |
| 02:00:34 | sorphin | MonMotha: not sure, don't think so |
| 02:00:44 | sorphin | only knows of the smbus touching dimms |
| 02:01:02 | MonMotha | hardware monitoring chips usually hang off the smbus too |
| 02:01:10 | sorphin | sometimes |
| 02:01:24 | sorphin | isa is usually faster access to them tho |
| 02:01:27 | MonMotha | sometiems the ISA bus too |
| 02:01:29 | prpplague | all hail the digi king, kergoth |
| 02:01:41 | kergoth | digi king.. god i hope not |
| 02:01:43 | kergoth | re |
| 02:01:46 | MonMotha | heh |
| 02:02:16 | MonMotha | you happen to know off hand which pins on the DIMM slot are the smbus? |
| 02:02:31 | sorphin | nope, i don't |
| 02:02:38 | MonMotha | k, I'll have to look that up I guess |
| 02:02:56 | MonMotha | is tinkering with some of his spare parts until he can get the buffer he needs |
| 02:03:20 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:14:32 | CosmicPenguin | Doh - segfault |
| 02:14:51 | kergoth | fun |
| 02:28:11 | MonMotha | was doing some direct to parallel port stuff and it was segfaulting |
| 02:28:25 | MonMotha | could you believe that I didn't figure out that I wasn't root until I straced it and saw the operation prohibited? :) |
| 02:28:46 | sorphin | MonMotha: tis still a laugh ;) |
| 02:29:41 | MonMotha | sorphin: yeah yeah :) |
| 02:29:46 | MonMotha | I have a couple GALs... |
| 02:30:14 | sorphin | blonde or brunette? ;p |
| 02:30:16 | sorphin | grins |
| 02:33:02 | MonMotha | 16V8, whatever that is :) |
| 02:33:19 | MonMotha | I have them marked "A" and "B" so I don't get them confused :) |
| 02:33:36 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:33:48 | MonMotha | needs to get out his old electronics book and actually go through the whole thing |
| 02:34:17 | sorphin | grins |
| 02:34:42 | MonMotha | It's actually a pretty good book |
| 02:34:48 | sorphin | nod |
| 02:34:53 | MonMotha | goes through all the basics and then starts combining them |
| 02:57:57 | MonMotha | BZFlag: post a link to traffic statistics...I wanna see if you manage to become a victim of a "secondary slashdotting" |
| 03:06:28 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 03:18:45 | prpplague | as_: goodnight |
| 03:36:14 | CosmicPenguin | Time to go to bed |
| 03:44:19 | BZFlag | MonMotha: SF does not give individual stats anymore that I can find. |
| 03:44:34 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 03:44:46 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 03:45:42 | MonMotha | BZFlag: aww, too bad :) |
| 03:45:48 | MonMotha | BZFlag: btw, did you get to the post office today? |
| 04:01:29 | andersee | hehe. Mallum is being slashdotted |
| 04:01:38 | jacques | andersee: hi :-) |
| 04:01:41 | andersee | evening |
| 04:01:43 | jacques | he is? why? |
| 04:01:48 | andersee | matchbox |
| 04:01:57 | jacques | ah, ic |
| 04:02:00 | jacques | good for him |
| 04:02:20 | jacques | matchbox is tre cool and getting cooler with each release |
| 04:02:53 | jacques | now if only i would get off my butt and get tinyx compiling again I could try out the latest version of matchbox |
| 04:05:04 | jacques | i think handhelds.org can probably handle the load, esp since they posted this at night |
| 04:05:15 | jacques | that tends to distribute the load over a longer time |
| 04:08:50 | jacques | heh, from rading the comments, I wonder how many of those ppl have actually used matchbox |
| 04:09:03 | jacques | some ppl just like to hear themselves talk |
| 04:10:53 | andersee | I think most people that post comments on slashdot are total idiots or trolls. Like 1 comment in 1000 is actually relevant, informed, and well written... |
| 04:11:53 | andersee | yet I still go there and read stuff.... |
| 04:12:09 | kergoth | andersee: twisted sense of humor perhaps? |
| 04:12:12 | kergoth | :-) |
| 04:12:33 | jacques | andersee: I am same way - I keep saying I will stop reading but I dont |
| 04:12:49 | MonMotha | andersee: you complaining about the comments I've posted? |
| 04:12:53 | jacques | tho I rarely read the threads these days |
| 04:12:56 | MonMotha | other than the one I just did, they were all relevent |
| 04:13:15 | jacques | MonMotha: yes we were specifically referring to you :-D |
| 04:13:22 | MonMotha | jacques: figures :) |
| 04:13:25 | andersee | MonMotha: I skipped the comments on this one I'm afraid.... |
| 04:14:08 | MonMotha | andersee: well, most of them are complaining about the use of X as it's a "resource hog", and most of the replies are that X aint' a resource hog and that most people running X on them aren't using them for normal PDA purposes anyway (my replies included) |
| 04:14:55 | andersee | a reasonable comment. tiny-X isn't so bad. |
| 04:15:32 | jacques | and seveal ppl say that the remote display code in x is wasted in tiny devices |
| 04:16:03 | andersee | jacques: perhaps so. |
| 04:16:20 | ][N-Flux | people love to bitch |
| 04:16:24 | andersee | jacques: I rarely use it. But I like having it for those times when I need it. |
| 04:16:50 | MonMotha | amazing how people abuse the offtopic mod |
| 04:17:10 | jacques | andersee: agreed |
| 04:17:19 | MonMotha | you may not like it, it may even be redundant or flamebait, but if it's regarding the topic at hand, it's defaintely not offtopic |
| 04:17:21 | jacques | i actually use it quite a bit on the tux |
| 04:17:43 | jacques | this is kinda inspiring me to get tinyx compiling again |
| 04:18:02 | andersee | me too. |
| 04:19:13 | andersee | sigh. gotta reboot. the 'usb-storage' kernel module is wedged. :( |
| 04:19:28 | jacques | grr |
| 04:19:31 | kergoth | ugh usb-storage crashes my box fairly often |
| 04:19:52 | jacques | yeah ive had same issues with it |
| 04:25:51 | kergoth | dont touch it on 2.5.latest :-) |
| 04:25:56 | kergoth | BUG()s are funnnn |
| 04:29:13 | ][N-Flux | is away: Doped up.... |
| 04:31:43 | andersee | sigh. fsck took a while. |
| 04:32:13 | jacques | what" you;re not using reiser or ext3? :-D |
| 04:32:23 | jacques | neither am i |
| 04:33:02 | andersee | I am using ext3, but after N reboots it does a fsck. And I won the lottery. |
| 04:33:27 | jacques | ah I didnt think it needed fsck, even when uncleanly unmounted |
| 04:33:36 | jacques | since it's a journalling fs |
| 04:33:59 | andersee | It doesn't need it. But it does it every so often, just in case.... |
| 04:34:32 | andersee | I've never had fsck find anything since I switched to ext3... |
| 04:35:51 | jacques | that's good i guess |
| 05:00:32 | BZFlag | anyone know Calvin Vette? I need a shipping address for him. |
| 05:30:37 | MonMotha | BZFlag: did you get a chance to go to the post office today? |
| 06:12:17 | BZFlag | nope, sorry. will deffinitly go tomorrow as I'm leaving town Friday. |
| 06:54:11 | | MonMotha was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 23 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: BZFlag: did you get a chance to go to the post office today? [Thu Aug 1 06:30:37 2002] |
| 06:54:11 | Tangent | ibot seen MonMotha |
| 06:54:22 | Tangent | MonMotha: Alive/Awake? |
| 07:05:26 | spse | Tangent: bit early for you ;) |
| 11:22:33 | ][N-Flux | is away: work... |
| 11:51:40 | mallum | hey |
| 11:56:33 | sorphin | mallum: /.'d yet? ;) |
| 12:00:35 | mallum | sorphin: well its the hh.org server, not sure how that is holding up |
| 12:01:18 | sorphin | nod |
| 12:13:13 | Nermal_Work | oooh mallum |
| 12:13:35 | Nermal_Work | whats the font that "Restrained window management" is written in on the matchbox logo ? |
| 12:15:48 | mallum | um |
| 12:15:48 | mallum | http://fonts.tom7.com/fonts98.html |
| 12:18:36 | Nermal_Work | oooh :) |
| 12:19:01 | Nermal_Work | http://fonts.tom7.com/i/f/tombats7.gif |
| 12:19:51 | Nermal_Work | look at the iccle bug! bottom right!! :D |
| 12:19:51 | Nermal_Work | bounces |
| 12:36:43 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: you there? |
| 12:36:44 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: indeed I am |
| 12:37:03 | file | disco dances |
| 12:37:51 | mallum | morris dances |
| 12:38:17 | file | such a nice sleep lastnight |
| 12:38:18 | Nermal_Work | mallum: can you use ttf fonts in linux ? |
| 12:38:21 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Whats your prefered e-mail address these days? |
| 12:38:22 | Nermal_Work | ie: .ttf files |
| 12:38:42 | Nermal_Work | likes mallum's email address :) |
| 12:39:30 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: breakfast@10.am |
| 12:39:40 | mallum | Nermal_Work: sure |
| 12:40:16 | mallum | Nermal_Work: with xfs font server or xft extension with Xfree 4.1+ |
| 12:40:38 | Nermal_Work | and will things like gimp use them ? |
| 12:40:58 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: alpha code incoming |
| 12:41:02 | CosmicPenguin | ducks |
| 12:41:16 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: cool |
| 12:41:25 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: is it a patch ? |
| 12:41:40 | file | waits for the mail |
| 12:42:50 | Nermal_Work | waits to go home so he can charge his ipaq |
| 12:43:34 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: not right now - I'll explain in my e-mail |
| 12:43:48 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: np |
| 12:51:39 | file | wait for the e-mail!!! |
| 12:51:40 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I probably wont be able to integrate it for a little while - as I have 2 paid jobs on at the moment which is taking all my time. This sucks, but I need to get some money in for all the time off I had writing matchbox ! |
| 12:51:40 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: thats good - I hope that the press you got yesterday will get you more $$$ |
| 12:51:40 | file | hopes his laptop came today |
| 12:51:40 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeah me too, I stuck getting paid peanuts for doing crappy php at the moment :(( |
| 12:51:42 | file | who wants pizza??? |
| 12:52:30 | scanline | file: me! |
| 12:52:33 | file | scanline: ok, bring me my laptop |
| 12:52:43 | scanline | :P |
| 12:53:13 | file | ;) |
| 12:53:30 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: don't integrate this set of code - its just for you to look over - when I'm ready to go, I'll make a patch |
| 12:53:40 | CaCtus491 | anyone abouts? |
| 12:54:03 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: coolio hoolio |
| 12:54:46 | CosmicPenguin | Well, all - its of to work for me - see you all in a few minutes |
| 12:54:50 | | cosmic_work is nothing but an unintelligent enema-bucketful of impertinent squirrel guts. |
| 12:54:50 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: insult cosmic_work |
| 12:55:52 | CaCtus491 | If i'm using inferno from windows, how would the following line change? |
| 12:55:52 | CaCtus491 | bind -a '#t' /dev ; rdp -s115200 -r -p/dev/eia0 |
| 12:58:42 | file | offers scanline some pizza anyway |
| 13:00:16 | scanline | mmm |
| 13:00:16 | scanline | thanks file |
| 13:00:17 | | scanline: i'm not following you... |
| 13:00:17 | scanline | ibot: make pizza |
| 13:00:43 | | OK, scanline. |
| 13:00:43 | scanline | ibot: make pizza is <reply> make: *** No rule to make target `pizza'. Stop. |
| 13:02:35 | CaCtus491 | anyone? :) |
| 13:02:36 | file | hums |
| 13:10:19 | | make: *** No rule to make target `pizza'. Stop. |
| 13:10:19 | scanline | ibot: make pizza |
| 13:10:30 | sorphin | such blazing speed |
| 13:10:56 | file | ibot is ... smart |
| 13:12:18 | sorphin | file: yup, it is, that's why it always tells you no ;p |
| 13:13:11 | file | yup |
| 13:14:32 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 15:19:02) |
| 13:15:59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: MORNING |
| 13:16:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, sorry |
| 13:16:36 | scanline | is away: sleep! That's where I'm a guru! |
| 13:16:44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i hate it when this keyboard's cap locks light doesn't work properly |
| 13:16:53 | sorphin | prpplague: excuses |
| 13:17:18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my keyboard doesn't even *have* a light |
| 13:17:18 | prpplague | sorphin: really, some times the led never comes on...... |
| 13:17:35 | Nermal_Work | lol |
| 13:17:40 | sorphin | . o O ( LED's on but no one's home ;) ) |
| 13:18:09 | sorphin | least you're not stuck using cheap windows telnet to get to your network to get to here atm :P |
| 13:18:21 | sorphin | cuz they still haven't FSCKING gotten your desk back in order |
| 13:18:58 | mallum | hey prpplague |
| 13:19:59 | prpplague | sorphin: ha, why not dl a copy of dtelnet? |
| 13:21:00 | prpplague | mallum: morning dude |
| 13:21:10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: sounds like a job for VNC |
| 13:21:47 | prpplague | there are also some nice xwindows servers for windows |
| 13:22:02 | CosmicPenguin | Exceed works well - expensive though |
| 13:22:47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: winblows=$$ just about anyway ya go..... |
| 13:24:54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats why `uname -a` = Linux cosmic 2.4.19-pre10-ac2 #9 Wed Jul 10 11:39:31 MDT 2002 i686 unknown |
| 13:28:34 | CaCtus491 | ok, kinda new to this... |
| 13:28:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: same here |
| 13:28:39 | CaCtus491 | I should download http://tuxscreen.net/download/v0.6/blob-20020709 |
| 13:28:50 | CaCtus491 | and use inferno to put that on the tux? |
| 13:29:03 | CaCtus491 | (just unlocked the flash) |
| 13:29:51 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: XML stuff looks really good :) |
| 13:30:00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 13:30:05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: not quite |
| 13:30:56 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: thanks |
| 13:30:59 | sorphin | my work machiens aren't even on atm.. and i'm not gonna chew up my bandwidth to the network at home, exporting X or VNC (esp not w/ 160K up) |
| 13:31:26 | CaCtus491 | Would the command c D!blob F!all become c D!blob-20020709 F!all |
| 13:31:26 | CaCtus491 | ? |
| 13:31:28 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: It keeps blowing out while trying to load the pixmap/picture for an active/inactive button, and I can't figure out why |
| 13:33:02 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ok, I need to spend more time plying with it when I have some ... ;) |
| 13:36:24 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: same here - I should have a patch ready to go by Sunday |
| 13:37:33 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I assume 0.4 development will start soon? |
| 13:39:10 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yep, I just fixing bits and pieces at the moment when I get some more solid time, I'll start the 0.4 dev ( hopefully soon ) |
| 13:40:49 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I have to devote some time to xkbd as well soon ... |
| 13:41:06 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: what, are you shirking on all of your free projects again? For shame.... :) |
| 13:41:24 | mallum | ? |
| 13:41:37 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I was kidding... :) |
| 13:45:51 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ;) |
| 13:56:22 | Nermal_Work | I wish I could code :| |
| 14:01:00 | prpplague | Nermal_Work: look at learning fltk |
| 14:01:14 | prpplague | Nermal_Work: if you can't code its a fun place to start |
| 14:06:26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: though sometimes the inheritance can get a little interesting |
| 14:09:09 | kergoth | re |
| 14:19:23 | Nermal_Work | I can code .. but java... which is useless |
| 14:19:27 | Nermal_Work | kicks his universisty |
| 14:19:43 | kergoth | should go to a university one of these days |
| 14:20:46 | CaCtus491 | ok, now I'm really stuck.... |
| 14:20:53 | CaCtus491 | can someone pls give me some help |
| 14:21:23 | CaCtus491 | I've unlocked the flash / etc and have the tuxscreen hooked up to com1 |
| 14:21:44 | CaCtus491 | I run inferno and type 'bind -a '#t' /dev' |
| 14:22:24 | CaCtus491 | then 'rdp -s9600 -r -p/dev/eia0' |
| 14:22:36 | CaCtus491 | the following line is returned: rdp 0.17 (port=/dev/iea0, bps=9600) |
| 14:22:56 | CaCtus491 | when I apply power to the tux, <sending reset>; appears on the next line |
| 14:23:28 | CaCtus491 | I press escape at the fading screen followed by ctrl+a |
| 14:23:45 | CaCtus491 | the screen on the tux goes black and nothing happens on inferno |
| 14:23:50 | CaCtus491 | any ideas? |
| 14:28:54 | Nermal_Work | hmm |
| 14:28:54 | Nermal_Work | mine hasn't arrived yet.. can't help.. :( |
| 14:30:48 | CaCtus491 | oh well :( |
| 17:13:40 | Hiraghm | hi |
| 17:13:43 | Hiraghm | anybody home? |
| 17:13:54 | Hiraghm | hi ibot |
| 17:14:26 | Hiraghm | I guess not. |
| 18:33:30 | kergoth`lunch | aah |
| 18:33:50 | kergoth`lunch | prpplague: MAINTAINERS lists invalid emails, and people that no longer work for Digi as the maintainers for our drivers.. oi |
| 18:34:08 | kergoth`lunch | prpplague: not to mention the unmaintained epca driver is listed as Maintained.. god i wish Digi would pay attention. |
| 18:38:36 | prpplague | kergoth: yes i'd have to agree |
| 18:38:58 | prpplague | kergoth: the man pages and documents for the ras modem stuff is totally incorrect |
| 18:42:18 | prpplague | kergoth: its like i have to tranlate the man pages from the bogus stuff to correct stuff befor i can even make sense of the page |
| 18:42:31 | kergoth | prpplague: lol.. |
| 18:42:39 | kergoth | prpplague: I had a meeting with the engineering manager today |
| 18:42:52 | kergoth | prpplague: Trying to convince Digi to actually take part in the linux community for once |
| 18:42:58 | kergoth | crosses fingers |
| 18:44:18 | scanline | is back (gone 05:27:42) |
| 18:45:27 | prpplague | crosses all 10 fingers and all 12 toes |
| 19:00:56 | scanline | is away: no good reason? |
| 19:00:57 | CosmicPenguin | No wonder scanline is so lucky - he has 2 extra toes to cross |
| 19:00:59 | kergoth | prpplague: hows the sco-linux transition coming along? |
| 19:01:00 | prpplague | kergoth: going fairly well |
| 19:01:01 | prpplague | kergoth: only minor flow control issues, other than smooth as glass |
| 19:01:01 | kergoth | prpplague: good good |
| 19:01:01 | kergoth | nice |
| 19:02:02 | prpplague | kergoth: the only major issue is that our managment are trying to push the linux version of our software out before its ready and its totally stressing me out |
| 19:02:13 | kergoth | ack |
| 19:02:17 | kergoth | grumbles about exec's |
| 19:07:52 | prpplague | Jtag4sale: interesting nic |
| 19:08:03 | kergoth | hehe |
| 19:08:13 | Jtag4sale | is normally known as RedBeard |
| 19:08:23 | Jtag4sale | yeah, well... I've got one and I would like to sell it.... |
| 19:08:47 | Jtag4sale | I need to get back working on my tuxscreen firewall... |
| 19:44:32 | prpplague | andersee: dude, i want my bb vi fixed! lol |
| 19:44:34 | file | waves to prpplague |
| 19:44:34 | Russ|werk | throws prpplague a copy of ae |
| 19:44:34 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ae? |
| 19:44:34 | Russ|werk | anthony's editor |
| 19:44:34 | | prpplague: no |
| 19:44:34 | file | ibot: tell prpplague |
| 19:44:35 | file | bleh - so SLOW! |
| 19:44:35 | Russ|werk | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 23900 Mar 11 2001 /bin/ae |
| 19:44:36 | Russ|werk | *very* old |
| 19:44:36 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ahh |
| 19:44:36 | prpplague | Russ|werk: available at the usual embedded urls? |
| 19:44:37 | Russ|werk | I'm not sure, it was used in lrp, and used to be the debian editor |
| 19:44:37 | kergoth | i think ae's still used on debian's boot floppies |
| 19:44:37 | Russ|werk | 'Copyright 1993, 1993 by Anthony Howe. All rights reserved. No warranty.' |
| 19:44:37 | kergoth | prpplague: whats wrong with bb vi/ |
| 19:44:37 | Russ|werk | its public domain |
| 19:44:38 | Russ|werk | the only problem being... |
| 19:44:38 | Russ|werk | libslang.so.1 => /lib/libslang.so.1 (0x40025000) |
| 19:44:38 | Russ|werk | I forgot about that, I'm not sure if uclibc has that |
| 19:44:44 | prpplague | kergoth: i'm getting a wierd sig11 when i try to q or wq |
| 19:44:44 | prpplague | kergoth: i thinks it probably related to my rootfs, but i was just harrasing andersee |
| 19:44:44 | kergoth | prpplague: sig11? ew. |
| 19:44:45 | prpplague | kergoth: as soon as i get around to it i'll have a look at whats broke |
| 19:44:45 | kergoth | ahh col |
| 19:44:45 | kergoth | er |
| 19:44:45 | kergoth | cool |
| 19:44:46 | Russ|werk | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/base/ae_962.orig.tar.gz |
| 19:44:46 | Russ|werk | http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/potato/main/source/base/ae_962-26.diff.gz |
| 19:44:47 | prpplague | Russ|werk: thanks |
| 19:44:48 | CosmicPenguin | ae - pronounced like <fozzy>eh</fozzy> |
| 19:44:48 | CosmicPenguin | oops - not fozzy, fonzy.... |
| 19:44:49 | andersee | throws a copy of the busybox source to prpplague |
| 19:44:49 | file | throws ... something at prpplague |
| 19:44:49 | andersee | thinks ae is crap |
| 19:44:49 | Russ|werk | it'd be nice if something like ae was in bb |
| 19:44:49 | file | all these short names... ae, bb, bleh! |
| 19:44:49 | andersee | kergoth: nope. The boot floppies dropped ae and now use nano-tiny (GNU nano compiled to be smaller) |
| 19:44:50 | Russ|werk | ae has been orphaned for a *long* time |
| 19:44:51 | prpplague | catches copy of bb source as andersee throws it in the air |
| 19:45:33 | Russ|werk | prpplague: sorry, ibot says no |
| 19:45:34 | file | well that took long enough |
| 19:45:34 | | Russ|werk: excuse me? |
| 19:45:34 | Russ|werk | ibot: tell me |
| 19:45:37 | | Russ|werk: excuse me? |
| 19:45:37 | Russ|werk | ibot: tell Russ|werk |
| 19:45:48 | | prpplague: no |
| 19:45:48 | file | ibot: tell prpplague |
| 19:45:57 | | ACTION file: no |
| 19:45:57 | Russ|werk | ibot: tell file |
| 19:46:05 | | Russ|werk: what? |
| 19:46:05 | Russ|werk | ibot: tell file yes |
| 19:46:06 | file | prpplague: didn't get it out eh? |
| 19:46:12 | Russ|werk | I'm confused |
| 19:47:04 | file | lol |
| 19:47:26 | prpplague | rofl |
| 19:51:33 | | Slashdot - Updated 2002-08-01 20:28:59 | VeriSign and Other Registry Giants Blast ICANN | Computers That Thrive in Salty, Humid Environments? | TheKompany Releases DivX Software For Zaurus | AT&amp;T Broadband Introduces Tiered Pricing |
| 19:51:33 | prpplague | ibot: slashdot |
| 19:53:02 | kergoth | andersee: ah |
| 19:53:47 | signal11 | verisign? interesting |
| 19:53:52 | signal11 | don't they own ICANN |
| 19:53:59 | signal11 | j/k. |
| 20:14:56 | prpplague | kergoth: hey got a question |
| 20:15:03 | kergoth | prpplague: sure |
| 20:15:15 | kergoth | goddamnit i spilled my soda |
| 20:15:16 | kergoth | brb |
| 20:15:24 | prpplague | kergoth: doh |
| 20:15:54 | prpplague | kergoth: have you seen the "inside out networks" usb to rs232 concentrator? |
| 20:16:45 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 20:16:46 | kergoth | yeah i have 2 in my cube |
| 20:16:47 | CosmicPenguin | URL? |
| 20:16:50 | kergoth | one is their rack mount unit |
| 20:16:55 | kergoth | and the other is the 2 port unit |
| 20:16:59 | prpplague | kergoth: cool, linux support? |
| 20:17:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.ionetworks.com its called an edgeport |
| 20:18:06 | kergoth | prpplague: yes, they contracted greg kroah-hartman to do the driver |
| 20:18:06 | kergoth | prpplague: big surprise :) |
| 20:18:09 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:18:09 | CosmicPenguin | Ahhh! Flash!!! |
| 20:18:17 | kergoth | hah |
| 20:18:41 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, think i'll order a couple and get them working on our thin client rootfs |
| 20:19:21 | CosmicPenguin | USB over IP? |
| 20:19:42 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah network attached usb ports |
| 20:19:51 | kergoth | prpplague: they work quite well, I like them |
| 20:21:49 | CosmicPenguin | sees a large security hole with a remotely attached keyboard |
| 20:21:59 | kergoth | hehe |
| 20:22:28 | kergoth | wonder how the latency would be |
| 20:24:06 | prpplague | kergoth: hmm, i could set up some gettys and connect a bunch of wyse terminals to one thin client |
| 20:24:50 | kergoth | prpplague: indeed. they're often used at remote thin clients that have need of a serial printer.. i.e. airport terminals and the like |
| 20:25:56 | prpplague | kergoth: cool, think i'll order a couple |
| 21:10:11 | prpplague | Morn: dudette |
| 21:10:22 | prpplague | Morn: how ya been? |
| 21:11:58 | Morn | working hard :-) |
| 21:12:12 | Morn | how are you? |
| 21:19:40 | prpplague | Morn: fine, doing a bunch sco2linux migration and hacking x on the zaurus |
| 21:24:46 | CosmicPenguin | This is a cool mod toy - I might buy a couple to keep on hand -- http://www.pcengines.com/cflash.htm |
| 21:28:15 | Morn | I just looked at a SCO 3.2 machine today |
| 21:28:54 | signal11 | nice |
| 21:28:58 | signal11 | classic |
| 21:29:05 | Morn | 386 |
| 21:29:22 | signal11 | why not just run Xenix |
| 21:29:44 | Morn | it was xenix, but the login said SCO System V version 3.2 |
| 21:30:04 | Morn | I recomend they don't do anything with the machine since in 3 months it's getting taken offline |
| 21:31:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you can buy one for $20 |
| 21:38:29 | CosmicPenguin | I can get SCO 3.2 machine for $20 bucks? I'm in! |
| 21:39:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no one of the cf to ide adapters |
| 21:39:30 | prpplague | In the end, having a swap partition is like having a heated toilet: you do not use it very often, but you sure appreciate it when you require it. |
| 21:39:37 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: did you check out that procmail CGI app I sent you? |
| 21:40:08 | prpplague | cute quote from the hdtuning howto |
| 21:40:39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: some might pay you $20 to take a sco3.2 off their hands |
| 21:41:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'd pay them $20 to keep it away from me |
| 21:41:25 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:41:28 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: not yet, sounds intriguing |
| 21:42:00 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: That particular app needs some hacking - but its definately doable - I like how they already handle the procmail recipe crap |
| 21:42:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i use the cf to ide alot to work with thin clients and other device with ide and no other flash support |
| 21:42:18 | file | like the TCSX-1? |
| 21:42:25 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: but if you can convince Kris to get us a procmail book on Amazon, I won't complain |
| 21:43:17 | prpplague | file: yes you can use it on the tcsx-1, but i usually use a disk-on-module for those |
| 21:43:36 | file | ic |
| 21:43:41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we use CF all over the place - I want a CF slot that fits in one of my front drive bays |
| 21:44:03 | CosmicPenguin | and if I was signal11, I would use a CF adapater in my in truck MP3 server |
| 21:44:20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i use a pcmcia slot in a 3.5 bay |
| 21:46:12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats a pretty good idea |
| 21:55:45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: makes it very easy to work with sd/mmc , cf and pcmcia media |
| 21:58:13 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I use my laptop for the same thing |
| 21:58:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i've done that too, but that adds an extra step of work |
| 22:00:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.cdw.com/shop/search/results.asp?Grp=PCM |
| 22:01:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/default.asp?EDC=247009 |
| 22:01:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats the one we use |
| 22:03:21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm.... you could stick a 802.11 card in there instead of dealing with the damn PCI card |
| 22:03:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 22:03:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thats how we make cheap wireless thinclients |
| 22:04:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: buy areally cheap pc and stick an adapter in, then an 802.11 card |
| 22:04:38 | prpplague | i'm head home |
| 22:04:40 | prpplague | bbl |
| 22:05:09 | CosmicPenguin | I'm off too.... |
| 22:05:17 | cosmic_work | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
