| 00:02:49 | MonMotha | BZFlag: you here? |
| 00:03:06 | MonMotha | he hasn't left for his 2 weeks yet, right? |
| 00:04:43 | sorphin | nope |
| 00:05:15 | MonMotha | good, just making sure before I order here in a few minutes |
| 00:13:31 | scanline | is back (gone 01:23:35) |
| 00:14:37 | prpplague | anyone cross-compiling matchbox? |
| 00:16:08 | sorphin | dont' even know what that is |
| 00:17:00 | prpplague | sorphin: its a window manager for embedded x |
| 00:17:07 | sorphin | ahh |
| 00:19:39 | prpplague | kergoth: dude, another day in digi paradise? |
| 00:19:49 | kergoth | hah |
| 00:19:51 | kergoth | ohh yeah |
| 00:20:02 | kergoth | from a *wonderful* day at digi to come home and .. CLEAN |
| 00:20:04 | kergoth | woo hoo |
| 00:20:06 | kergoth | what a fucking day |
| 00:20:39 | prpplague | ha, i've got the house to my self with a tall pint of guinness |
| 00:21:22 | kergoth | nice |
| 00:21:32 | kergoth | every dish is dirty, i cant even eat yet |
| 00:21:33 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:22:25 | prpplague | doh |
| 00:22:33 | prpplague | kergoth: time for take out |
| 00:22:38 | jacques | prpplague: matchbox is xcompiled by buildroot |
| 00:22:39 | kergoth | nah see i'm broke too |
| 00:22:40 | kergoth | heheh |
| 00:22:51 | kergoth | waits for the dishwasher to finish |
| 00:22:56 | sorphin | kergoth: digi? you don't mean digikey do you? |
| 00:23:17 | kergoth | sorphin: nope, digi international, as in digiboard. infamous for their serial ports |
| 00:23:19 | kergoth | hehh |
| 00:23:24 | sorphin | ahhh |
| 00:23:27 | sorphin | that digi |
| 00:23:40 | prpplague | jacques: ya, well i'm working on adding it into the buildroot for zaurus, and i've run into some cross-compile issues |
| 00:23:43 | sorphin | yeah, we used 2 of those back in the ISP days before we bought a couple portwasters |
| 00:24:01 | prpplague | jacques: i'll have at the lastest buildroot from tuxscreen |
| 00:24:06 | kergoth | sorphin: hehe. thats very common |
| 00:24:14 | sorphin | only thing i have digi now is a few ether transceivers |
| 00:24:40 | jacques | prpplague: unfortunately the latest buildroot does not compile tinyx properly |
| 00:24:43 | kergoth | sorphin: and to think we sold off that division (MiLAN) |
| 00:24:44 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:24:55 | jacques | prpplague: but you should be able to take hints from the matchbox.mk file |
| 00:25:10 | prpplague | jacques: thanks |
| 00:25:26 | sorphin | kergoth: yeah, they work fine too.. heh |
| 00:29:51 | prpplague | jacques: ahhhh, thanks found my problems, and no the problem is not that i'm an idiot...lol |
| 00:30:22 | file | hi prpplague |
| 00:30:31 | prpplague | file: no |
| 00:30:40 | file | I can't say hi to you? |
| 00:30:53 | prpplague | file: no |
| 00:30:56 | sorphin | hehe |
| 00:31:10 | file | can I not send you a bill for something? |
| 00:31:15 | prpplague | file: no |
| 00:31:23 | file | aha - I can send you a bill! |
| 00:31:25 | prpplague | file: no |
| 00:31:33 | file | prpplague: no |
| 00:31:37 | prpplague | file: no |
| 00:31:42 | file | prpplague: maybe |
| 00:31:47 | prpplague | file: lol, jk, hello there file! |
| 00:31:56 | file | prpplague: hello monsieur prpplague! |
| 00:32:23 | file | prpplague: how goes it in your coffee and coding world? |
| 00:32:24 | prpplague | file: i don't know, but i recken it sounds like an insult, get a rope |
| 00:32:25 | Sammy | morning both |
| 00:32:28 | Sammy | and all |
| 00:32:54 | file | thinks prpplague is suffering from coffee withdrawal |
| 00:33:19 | sorphin | stays outta this |
| 00:33:22 | kergoth | mmmm coffeee |
| 00:33:41 | prpplague | mmmmm guinness |
| 00:33:52 | sorphin | yuck, guinness |
| 00:33:58 | kergoth | speaking of drinks, i should mix myself a long island |
| 00:34:17 | prpplague | mmmm guinness and corn flakes......thats a meal |
| 00:34:21 | jacques | prpplague: :-D |
| 00:34:25 | sorphin | nah |
| 00:34:26 | file | I should fetch myself some cold pizza and pepsi |
| 00:34:30 | sorphin | guinness is nasty ;) |
| 00:34:39 | sorphin | gimme cider and black ;p |
| 00:34:49 | prpplague | sorphin: its an aquired taste |
| 00:35:05 | sorphin | prpplague: i wasted $5 on a guinness.. i was pissed.. |
| 00:35:12 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
| 00:35:15 | file | what is guinness, cheap beer? |
| 00:35:28 | sorphin | file :room temperature beer ;p |
| 00:35:35 | file | o... |
| 00:36:16 | sorphin | discovered he likes no dark beers |
| 00:36:29 | sorphin | hell, the only beer i've found i like is rolling rock.. |
| 00:36:34 | file | hasn't ruined his liver yet |
| 00:37:02 | prpplague | sorphin: argh, rolling rock??? talk about piss....... |
| 00:37:16 | kergoth | doesnt drink beer. |
| 00:37:23 | sorphin | prpplague: well, i never said i drink much beer either ;p |
| 00:37:27 | sorphin | gimme harder stuff |
| 00:37:34 | kergoth | sorphin: yes, here here |
| 00:37:38 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:37:46 | file | the pepsi probably mutilates my liver... but hey - one can't live without it |
| 00:37:59 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.ratebeer.com/ShowBeer.asp?BeerID=747 |
| 00:38:01 | kergoth | i cut back my soda intake.. that sucked. |
| 00:38:12 | file | I'm thirsty now |
| 00:38:17 | kergoth | caffeine withdrawl.. |
| 00:38:19 | kergoth | shudders |
| 00:38:21 | sorphin | tequila baybee |
| 00:38:28 | kergoth | mm tequila |
| 00:38:33 | file | I've evened myself out over sunny delight and soda |
| 00:38:41 | sorphin | kergoth: hey, you're in MN right? |
| 00:38:46 | kergoth | sorphin: yeah |
| 00:39:11 | kergoth | file: my house is stocked with juice, water, more juice, a liter of coke, and alcohol |
| 00:39:14 | sorphin | ever heard of 2 fingers then? |
| 00:39:19 | MonMotha | ok...order is in |
| 00:39:20 | file | kergoth: coke... |
| 00:39:22 | file | droolz |
| 00:39:39 | prpplague | file: last time i was on an install in seatle i did mountain dew and penguins for about a week |
| 00:39:41 | kergoth | sorphin: hmm doesnt ring a bell |
| 00:39:50 | sorphin | kergoth: hmm.. found it when i lived in winona |
| 00:39:53 | file | prpplague: penguin mints... |
| 00:39:57 | sorphin | kergoth: very good stuff |
| 00:39:58 | file | droolz |
| 00:40:12 | kergoth | sorphin: ah nice, i'll have to look around |
| 00:40:19 | sorphin | kergoth: :) |
| 00:40:19 | file | I'm hungry/thirsty now |
| 00:40:28 | sorphin | i couldnt' even handle more than 1/2 a shot.. in OJ |
| 00:40:31 | sorphin | strong |
| 00:40:38 | kergoth | damn... |
| 00:40:55 | file | prpplague: you wouldn't happen to have an I-Opener lying around? |
| 00:41:18 | sorphin | file: i have 2 ;) |
| 00:41:19 | prpplague | file: ya two, and a couple of ipaq ia-1's |
| 00:41:31 | file | has always wanted one |
| 00:41:35 | prpplague | file: i have a large budget to play with :) |
| 00:41:37 | file | what about a Websrufer Pro? |
| 00:41:42 | sorphin | got 2 IOs, a WSP and a mailstation |
| 00:41:42 | file | er Websurfer |
| 00:41:55 | file | sorphin: WSP... *drool* |
| 00:42:00 | sorphin | w/ ether ;) |
| 00:42:08 | kergoth | file: man, you drool alot |
| 00:42:13 | kergoth | hands file a napkin |
| 00:42:14 | file | *groan* the person little system |
| 00:42:18 | prpplague | file: websurfers weren't that good, i've got some eon2000's and some maxterm200's |
| 00:42:20 | file | kergoth: all good stuff to drool over |
| 00:42:28 | file | prpplague: bleh, I just want something cheap! :p |
| 00:42:29 | sorphin | prpplague: true.. but it's just another toy |
| 00:43:31 | file | I like the I-Opener because of it's monitor |
| 00:43:38 | file | well, LCD |
| 00:43:50 | sorphin | even the TUX's looks better than the IOs |
| 00:43:56 | sorphin | least the tux has a DSTN |
| 00:44:24 | file | a set top box would be nice... something useful for my TV |
| 00:44:41 | file | how about an Allwell unit? |
| 00:44:56 | sorphin | umm |
| 00:45:01 | sorphin | the wsp is an allwell box |
| 00:45:04 | sorphin | just stripped down |
| 00:45:05 | file | I know |
| 00:45:13 | file | I meant a non stripped down version |
| 00:45:20 | sorphin | mine has ether and IDE in it, so... |
| 00:45:24 | sorphin | onboard ether |
| 00:45:25 | sorphin | not a car |
| 00:45:26 | sorphin | d |
| 00:45:53 | file | now I want one... *sigh* |
| 00:46:03 | sorphin | well |
| 00:46:11 | sorphin | the ide i stole the resistors from the parallel port |
| 00:46:23 | sorphin | and the ether, i bought the stuff from someone to enable it |
| 00:46:27 | sorphin | what SUCKS is the PXE code |
| 00:46:30 | sorphin | is in the bios |
| 00:46:37 | sorphin | and is unupgradeable |
| 00:46:44 | file | uh huh |
| 00:47:00 | file | I think it would be neat if I could hook prpplague's TCSX-1 up to my TV... |
| 00:47:03 | file | it's perfect! |
| 00:47:36 | sorphin | k |
| 00:48:19 | file | prpplague: what else do you have that's fun to play with? |
| 00:48:34 | file | sorphin: when was the wsp made? |
| 00:48:47 | sorphin | um.. couple years ago? |
| 00:48:56 | file | mmm |
| 00:49:17 | file | any other set top boxes you may have? |
| 00:49:30 | prpplague | file: hmm, lots of cash slip printers, signature capture devices, voip phones, if we can make a buck on it we see it |
| 00:49:48 | file | prpplague: neat |
| 00:50:11 | sorphin | file: just all my tivos |
| 00:50:25 | file | sorphin: neat |
| 00:50:30 | file | should get a TiVo |
| 00:50:41 | sorphin | got 2 of those nice VFD displays that bgmicro has/had |
| 00:51:12 | file | sorphin : how much is an old old old TiVo? |
| 00:51:26 | sorphin | you'd have to check ebay |
| 00:51:28 | file | is a cheap person |
| 00:51:43 | file | ooh I wonder if there's anything like the TiVo that went out of business and is going cheap! |
| 00:52:45 | file | bleh I haven't a clue where to look |
| 00:53:39 | file | sorphin : I'll trade you a VTech Helio for something! |
| 00:53:58 | sorphin | never heard of it |
| 00:54:06 | file | gasps |
| 00:54:12 | file | http://picolinux.sf.net/ |
| 00:54:48 | file | it's a PDA that runs Linux or it's own proprietary OS |
| 00:54:51 | file | 2mb flash, 8mb of RAM |
| 00:55:01 | file | size of a Palm... |
| 00:55:57 | MonMotha | ipaq... |
| 00:56:05 | MonMotha | definately not cheap though :) |
| 00:56:21 | sorphin | file: heh, cute.. expandable at all? |
| 00:56:23 | file | MonMotha : I don't want an iPaq or Helio, I want to trade it for something |
| 00:56:29 | file | sorphin: ... no |
| 00:56:47 | file | but it's a fun little toy |
| 00:56:50 | MonMotha | just commenting that there are certainly other PDA devices that run linux |
| 00:56:52 | MonMotha | Zaurus too |
| 00:56:58 | file | MonMotha: that I don't have |
| 00:57:09 | file | anything for the Helio... |
| 00:57:16 | MonMotha | Zaurus comes with linux on it, so it's not really set up for hacking I've heard |
| 00:57:18 | file | with'in reason :p |
| 00:57:27 | MonMotha | and it doesn't have a huge expansion bus like the ipaq does |
| 00:58:23 | sorphin | the zaurus is cute.. handspring has some definate expandable stuff |
| 00:58:30 | sorphin | file: if you don't want it, why'd you get it? |
| 00:58:40 | file | sorphin: I did want it |
| 00:58:49 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:58:50 | file | sorphin: but I've become busy |
| 00:58:57 | sorphin | <file> MonMotha : I don't want an iPaq or Helio, I want to trade it for |
| 00:58:57 | sorphin | something |
| 00:59:01 | sorphin | make up your mind ;) |
| 00:59:03 | file | sorphin: tied up with Cybikos... |
| 00:59:32 | sorphin | with wha? |
| 00:59:42 | file | sorphin: http://www.cybikoxtreme.com/ |
| 00:59:49 | file | sorphin: I write programs for the device... |
| 01:00:40 | sorphin | this is the whole reason i went back to inferno on the tux |
| 01:00:44 | sorphin | too many linux boxen |
| 01:00:53 | sorphin | i don't want the phone to be just another linux box.. |
| 01:00:54 | file | I have no linux boxen :) |
| 01:01:02 | file | physically here that is |
| 01:01:12 | file | azmarith will be my only one when prpplague sends it |
| 01:01:17 | sorphin | has a 7' rack next to him |
| 01:01:33 | file | I don't even have a hub yet |
| 01:02:15 | file | Will trade VTech Helio for something! <repeats> |
| 01:04:07 | file | guess nobody wants it! |
| 01:05:11 | file | sorphin: what does a TiVo run? |
| 01:06:32 | sorphin | linux |
| 01:08:38 | MonMotha | it's a hacked up version of linux |
| 01:08:40 | MonMotha | but linux |
| 01:08:51 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:08:56 | sorphin | not really hacked up |
| 01:09:17 | sorphin | there is a lil bit of stuff changed, and then the modules for their hardware |
| 01:09:40 | sorphin | and of course, their sw which is unrelated |
| 01:25:06 | ][N-Flux | hrmmm |
| 01:55:00 | sorphin | file: can't quite tell wtf that thing is.. |
| 01:58:22 | MonMotha | hum, I never got a chance to ask him if he got my order |
| 01:58:59 | sorphin | guess you'll see |
| 02:03:43 | MonMotha | yep |
| 02:04:10 | sorphin | he's good about shipping tho |
| 02:04:13 | MonMotha | I said priority shipping (cost an extra 85 cents over parcel post), so I should get it within a few days assuming he gets it before the deadline for tomorrow ship date |
| 02:04:54 | sorphin | i got mine in no time at all |
| 02:05:16 | sorphin | um |
| 02:05:20 | sorphin | he sends priority anyways |
| 02:05:39 | sorphin | didn't pay extra and was shipped priority mail |
| 02:05:41 | MonMotha | I don't blame him, 85c more? :) |
| 02:06:09 | sorphin | paid what paypal said the total was |
| 02:06:37 | MonMotha | I went and checked what the USPS said shipping was ($12.95) |
| 02:06:49 | MonMotha | er $11.95 |
| 02:06:51 | sorphin | umm |
| 02:06:53 | MonMotha | +$2.20 for insurance |
| 02:07:02 | MonMotha | and $99.00 for th ephone |
| 02:07:05 | sorphin | you better hope you get it then |
| 02:07:30 | MonMotha | the page said check shipping rates, and that's what it said it was |
| 02:07:52 | sorphin | shrugs.. you'll see i guess |
| 02:08:02 | MonMotha | well, he has my ph # |
| 02:08:40 | sorphin | nods |
| 02:19:48 | MonMotha | out of jtag dongles too I see |
| 02:19:54 | sorphin | don't need one |
| 02:19:56 | MonMotha | so if I screw it up I have a brick until I can locate one |
| 02:19:58 | sorphin | straight wiring works |
| 02:20:06 | sorphin | did it w/o a dongle |
| 02:20:17 | sorphin | check if your parallel port is 3.3v |
| 02:20:19 | MonMotha | what? you can hook the jtag port up to a paralell port and go that way? |
| 02:20:22 | sorphin | if so, you can get away w/o it |
| 02:20:24 | MonMotha | which pins? |
| 02:20:30 | sorphin | check if your parallel port is 3.3v <--- |
| 02:20:39 | sorphin | if it's not, you HAVE to buffer |
| 02:20:50 | sorphin | taht's all the dongle is tho, is a buffer and some caps |
| 02:21:18 | sorphin | for straight wiring: |
| 02:21:35 | sorphin | pin 1 of the header should go to a signal gnd (i.e. pin 25) |
| 02:21:41 | sorphin | nRESET 3h<---| |
| 02:21:41 | sorphin | nTRST 6h<---| |
| 02:21:54 | sorphin | TDO 7h -> pin 11 parallel |
| 02:22:05 | sorphin | TDI 8h -> parallel |
| 02:22:12 | sorphin | TCK 9h -> parallel |
| 02:22:23 | sorphin | TMS 10h -> parallel |
| 02:22:29 | sorphin | and |
| 02:22:49 | sorphin | a 100 ohm resistor between pin 12 on the jtag header (3.3v) and pin 6 on the header |
| 02:23:13 | sorphin | erm |
| 02:23:22 | sorphin | forgot the last 3 parallel pins.. doh |
| 02:23:28 | sorphin | 8 -> 3 |
| 02:23:35 | sorphin | 9 -> 2 |
| 02:23:36 | MonMotha | isn't the handiest person electronics wise, btu I could probably manage that |
| 02:23:39 | sorphin | 10 -> 4 |
| 02:23:44 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:23:53 | sorphin | all i did was get a 16 pin IDC connector |
| 02:23:57 | sorphin | and some cat 5 |
| 02:24:04 | sorphin | and a 25 pin female |
| 02:24:35 | MonMotha | I thought the paralell port on PCs was a female connector |
| 02:24:40 | MonMotha | so you'd need a male connector to plug into it |
| 02:25:01 | MonMotha | (though I have both laying around) |
| 02:25:03 | sorphin | well |
| 02:25:05 | sorphin | it is |
| 02:25:06 | sorphin | but |
| 02:25:18 | sorphin | i used a 25-25 cable to get from the port to the tux ;p |
| 02:25:22 | MonMotha | ah |
| 02:25:24 | sorphin | both ends were male.. |
| 02:25:33 | sorphin | remember this isn't shielded |
| 02:25:41 | sorphin | and this cable does go by another machine that's open |
| 02:25:49 | sorphin | so i did atleast take some precaution :) |
| 02:25:51 | sorphin | btw |
| 02:25:56 | sorphin | jtag will be slow as fsck |
| 02:26:06 | sorphin | so what i'd recommend, if you ever had to |
| 02:26:19 | MonMotha | well, I'll do my best to not screw it up obviously, but it's nice to know that I can jtag something back in ifI have to |
| 02:26:36 | sorphin | just flash the 1st 128k (of an inferno uncompressed image).. or a blob.. (depending on which way you're going..) |
| 02:26:55 | MonMotha | yeah, then you can use that loader to upload the rest over serial |
| 02:27:23 | sorphin | yup |
| 02:27:41 | sorphin | reflashed several times to get it right |
| 02:27:47 | MonMotha | how fast did you get over jtag? |
| 02:27:51 | sorphin | when doing the inferno |
| 02:28:01 | MonMotha | just for curiosity's sake |
| 02:28:06 | sorphin | wasn't doing c/u and i should have been to let the tux uncompress it for me |
| 02:28:08 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:28:12 | sorphin | from the tux |
| 02:28:14 | sorphin | bout 6k/sec |
| 02:28:16 | sorphin | to the tux |
| 02:28:22 | sorphin | 680b/sec |
| 02:28:45 | MonMotha | faster than the modem my friend used to do "truely anonymous internet" :) |
| 02:28:56 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:29:03 | MonMotha | 300baud acoustical coupler on a payphone (old one with no camera) to netzero with fake info |
| 02:29:07 | sorphin | well, that's why i chose to just do the bootloader.. |
| 02:34:20 | legodude | haha, accoustical couplers are the man |
| 02:34:23 | sorphin | can't decide what to do w/ his tuxes |
| 02:34:28 | legodude | voip! |
| 02:34:35 | legodude | voip is so sexy |
| 02:34:38 | sorphin | hehe |
| 02:34:44 | sorphin | that'll require the 5v mod |
| 02:34:59 | sorphin | wish i could use my proxim symphony cards |
| 02:35:01 | sorphin | they're 3.3v |
| 02:36:09 | sorphin | glad i found the version of the shannon sw that can do SIP |
| 02:39:45 | legodude | whre is that? |
| 02:39:55 | sorphin | in the tux download dir |
| 02:40:01 | legodude | ahso |
| 02:40:32 | legodude | that needs the sound mod right? |
| 02:40:34 | legodude | shanip? |
| 02:41:16 | sorphin | yah |
| 02:41:23 | legodude | ahso |
| 02:41:37 | legodude | I'm gonn have to do that soon |
| 02:41:47 | sorphin | yeah |
| 02:41:58 | legodude | alright |
| 02:42:01 | legodude | time for me to sleep |
| 02:42:08 | legodude | g'nite sorphin and everybody else |
| 02:42:51 | sorphin | night |
| 02:55:55 | MonMotha | eh, looks like all my paralell ports are 5V |
| 02:56:40 | sorphin | you'll need a buffer then |
| 02:56:42 | MonMotha | 5.1 actually |
| 02:56:49 | sorphin | got a protoboard? |
| 02:56:50 | MonMotha | yeah, looked simple enough to build though? |
| 02:56:53 | MonMotha | of course I do! |
| 02:56:56 | sorphin | :) |
| 02:57:00 | sorphin | yeah, tis easy |
| 02:57:15 | sorphin | got lucky, my athlon board has a 3.3v port |
| 02:57:16 | MonMotha | I've got like 4 of them |
| 02:57:27 | MonMotha | most of them scarred with burn marks in various places :) |
| 02:57:31 | sorphin | hehe, you must be an EE too ;) |
| 02:57:35 | sorphin | HAHAHA |
| 02:57:38 | sorphin | mine as one |
| 02:57:42 | MonMotha | not at all actually |
| 02:57:42 | sorphin | right in the middle |
| 02:57:49 | MonMotha | I just do this as a hobby, though eventually I might be a EE |
| 02:57:54 | sorphin | voltage regulator |
| 02:57:54 | MonMotha | is a student ATM |
| 02:57:58 | sorphin | ah |
| 02:58:04 | sorphin | how old? |
| 02:58:09 | MonMotha | you don't wanna know :) |
| 02:58:33 | MonMotha | I got started early |
| 02:58:41 | sorphin | how old ;p |
| 02:58:55 | MonMotha | ok, I'll give you my standard |
| 02:59:09 | MonMotha | I couldn't vote in the last presidential election, but I will be able to in the upcoming one |
| 02:59:21 | sorphin | 17 |
| 02:59:33 | MonMotha | that's one of the possibilities |
| 02:59:38 | sorphin | 17 almost 18 ;p |
| 02:59:48 | MonMotha | that's another one |
| 02:59:59 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:00:07 | MonMotha | basically that gets you to a 3 year range, 17-20 I believe |
| 03:00:21 | sorphin | the girl i'm talkin to irl lately is only a year older than you ;p (if you're gonna be 18) |
| 03:00:42 | MonMotha | wipes the dust off his old breadboard |
| 03:00:47 | MonMotha | been too long since I used this |
| 03:00:56 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:01:17 | MonMotha | the art of hacking PC hardware seemed lost for a while |
| 03:01:28 | sorphin | yah |
| 03:01:42 | MonMotha | of course I obviously didn't start out dangling things off my paralell port (in fact, I have never done such a thing) |
| 03:02:00 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:02:03 | sorphin | i did, back in the day |
| 03:02:09 | sorphin | stepper motor stuff |
| 03:02:14 | MonMotha | ah |
| 03:02:37 | MonMotha | so, let's see |
| 03:02:41 | MonMotha | what do I need to build this sucker |
| 03:02:48 | MonMotha | might as well do it while I have the time |
| 03:02:49 | sorphin | any buffer will do |
| 03:03:07 | sorphin | if you want, someone sent me an easier to do dongle schem |
| 03:03:14 | sorphin | well, pointed me at one |
| 03:03:18 | MonMotha | ah, would be appreciated |
| 03:03:24 | sorphin | tho they're mostly the same, this one isn't smt, so.. easier to trace |
| 03:03:26 | sorphin | 1 mo.. |
| 03:03:31 | sorphin | can you accept dcc? |
| 03:03:36 | MonMotha | in theory |
| 03:03:44 | MonMotha | since I'm not on ipv6 right now I should |
| 03:03:51 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:04:37 | MonMotha | unfortunately the only electronics shop near me is radio shack :( |
| 03:04:45 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:04:51 | sorphin | and they stopped carrying the buffer |
| 03:04:57 | sorphin | prods you to accept hte dcc |
| 03:05:12 | MonMotha | go figure |
| 03:05:22 | MonMotha | There's a shop downtown, but it's a good half-hour drive one way for me |
| 03:05:24 | sorphin | that's why i tried straight wire again |
| 03:05:32 | sorphin | turned out |
| 03:05:40 | sorphin | i needed the signal gnd |
| 03:06:00 | sorphin | seems its a must to tie pin 1 to a pport sig gnd (or in your case the dongle gnd) |
| 03:06:40 | MonMotha | numbers on the side of the buffer are pport pins? |
| 03:07:12 | sorphin | #'s all hte way on the left |
| 03:07:14 | sorphin | are pport |
| 03:07:23 | sorphin | all the way on the right are tux header |
| 03:08:10 | MonMotha | then what are the numbers along the side of the IC? they're not sequential... |
| 03:08:52 | sorphin | they're the pin #'s on the ic |
| 03:09:08 | sorphin | just look how they line up |
| 03:09:21 | sorphin | 2A3 -> 2Y3 |
| 03:09:33 | sorphin | 2A2 -> 2Y2 |
| 03:09:36 | MonMotha | ok, sorry, didn't see the identifiers on the inside |
| 03:09:56 | sorphin | no worries |
| 03:10:19 | sorphin | , as for my age i'm either 10 years or 7 years older than you ;) |
| 03:10:25 | sorphin | or inbetween |
| 03:11:19 | MonMotha | haven't done this in a while |
| 03:11:26 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:12:33 | sorphin | paid $2xK for a piece of paper that says i know how to do it, but i don't even use it.. heh |
| 03:13:47 | MonMotha | odd, my P3's pport is testing at 4.66V |
| 03:14:05 | sorphin | hehehe |
| 03:14:09 | sorphin | how are you testing it? |
| 03:14:23 | MonMotha | pin 1 -> gnd |
| 03:14:26 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:14:27 | MonMotha | all my others came out 5.1v |
| 03:14:40 | sorphin | tested to gnd from a data line |
| 03:14:44 | sorphin | and toggled the line |
| 03:14:50 | sorphin | came out 3.37 |
| 03:15:05 | MonMotha | well, I don't really have any way to directly maniplate the data lines on this |
| 03:15:13 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:15:16 | sorphin | running linux? |
| 03:15:31 | MonMotha | yeah |
| 03:15:34 | sorphin | 1 sec |
| 03:16:02 | sorphin | #include <unistd.h> |
| 03:16:02 | sorphin | #include <asm/io.h> |
| 03:16:02 | sorphin | #include <stdio.h> |
| 03:16:02 | sorphin | int main() |
| 03:16:02 | sorphin | { |
| 03:16:03 | sorphin | int n = 1, x = 0; |
| 03:16:05 | sorphin | ioperm(0x3bc, 3, 1); |
| 03:16:07 | sorphin | for (x=0; x < 8; x++) { |
| 03:16:09 | sorphin | outb(n,0x3bc); |
| 03:16:11 | sorphin | n <<= 1; |
| 03:16:13 | sorphin | printf("Setting Data line %d HIGH\n", x); |
| 03:16:15 | sorphin | getchar(); |
| 03:16:17 | sorphin | } |
| 03:16:19 | sorphin | ioperm(0x3bc,3,0); |
| 03:16:21 | sorphin | } |
| 03:16:25 | sorphin | obviously change 3bc to 378 if applicable |
| 03:17:28 | scanline | is away: playing some BZFlag |
| 03:21:55 | MonMotha | would you belive I managed to get that to segfault? |
| 03:22:39 | sorphin | hehehe |
| 03:22:49 | MonMotha | gotta love gcc 3 |
| 03:22:55 | sorphin | i'm using gcc 3.0.4 |
| 03:25:56 | MonMotha | chants "idiot" and types "su" into his terminal |
| 03:26:09 | sorphin | haha |
| 03:26:11 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:26:23 | sorphin | direct port io dun like not being root |
| 03:26:45 | MonMotha | 4.66V |
| 03:26:51 | MonMotha | now that is an odd voltage |
| 03:27:01 | MonMotha | I can forgive the 5.1 as being 5 |
| 03:27:05 | sorphin | close enough to say 5v |
| 03:27:05 | MonMotha | but 4.66 is just too far off from 5 |
| 03:27:21 | MonMotha | well, it's certainly not 3.3 |
| 03:27:37 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:27:45 | sorphin | i wouldn't say 3.3 if it were above 3.7 |
| 03:28:01 | MonMotha | safety purposes |
| 03:28:06 | MonMotha | does the safety dance |
| 03:28:28 | sorphin | grins |
| 03:30:33 | MonMotha | well, I had a great quote to go with that, but the site seems down |
| 03:30:43 | sorphin | hehe |
| 03:32:06 | MonMotha | would you believe I ended up stracing that prog to figure out that I wasn't root? :) |
| 03:32:16 | sorphin | shakes his head |
| 03:32:26 | sorphin | you gave a guy in another channel a good laugh by that ;) |
| 03:32:35 | prpplague | anyone alive using matchbox? |
| 03:38:27 | MonMotha | oh really? :) |
| 03:38:38 | sorphin | yup |
| 03:38:47 | MonMotha | which channel would this be? |
| 03:38:57 | sorphin | a hidden one ;p |
| 03:38:59 | sorphin | grins |
| 03:39:02 | MonMotha | I can always use another channel to add to my tray |
| 03:39:36 | MonMotha | will haev to start dinking around with hanging things off the paralell port again |
| 03:39:44 | MonMotha | well, for the first time |
| 03:40:09 | MonMotha | at least first time to hang something I built off the paralell port |
| 03:40:22 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:40:31 | sorphin | that same guy used to have 8 leds on his port |
| 03:40:37 | sorphin | and a script to do the knight rider thing |
| 03:41:14 | MonMotha | heh |
| 03:41:23 | MonMotha | I have a LED sign I need to figure out how to interface with |
| 03:41:28 | MonMotha | I think it might have a modem(!?) in it |
| 03:41:55 | MonMotha | I'll have to get out my old paralell port ISA addon |
| 03:42:03 | MonMotha | give myself another pport and two more rs-232 lines |
| 03:42:05 | sorphin | still likes this li VFD display |
| 03:42:26 | MonMotha | checked his rs "clearence buyout" box, no buffers unfortunately |
| 03:42:35 | MonMotha | plenty of other neat goodies I forgot I had though |
| 03:42:37 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:42:42 | MonMotha | you ever do that? :) |
| 03:43:01 | MonMotha | back when RS had real parts, they'd have the clearance bin of returned and open merchandise |
| 03:43:22 | MonMotha | of course it was a royal pain for them to inventory, so they'd do things like sell the whole bin off for like $5 |
| 03:43:39 | sorphin | or have a "grab bag" |
| 03:43:45 | MonMotha | they did that too |
| 03:43:55 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:44:01 | sorphin | back before they became crap |
| 03:44:04 | MonMotha | basiaclly the same thing |
| 03:44:13 | MonMotha | oh yeah, radio shack used to be a pretty decent place |
| 03:44:30 | MonMotha | then they started the "you've got questions, we've got answers" campaign |
| 03:44:47 | sorphin | and all the dtv shite |
| 03:44:48 | MonMotha | they fired all the guys who had answers, and hired a bunch of guys who could read a script |
| 03:44:54 | sorphin | yup |
| 03:44:59 | sorphin | heh, one of the RS's by me |
| 03:45:15 | sorphin | has a chick w/ a nice rack, who's single i think *grin*.. prolly slightly older than me, but doable |
| 03:45:17 | sorphin | grins |
| 03:45:29 | MonMotha | heh |
| 03:45:44 | sorphin | kinda sucks |
| 03:45:50 | sorphin | Gateway Electronics is here |
| 03:45:54 | sorphin | decent place |
| 03:46:00 | sorphin | was/is run by Hams |
| 03:46:02 | MonMotha | I've got a good place fairly near me for CABLES |
| 03:46:08 | sorphin | but they're geting out of the ham stuff... |
| 03:46:10 | sorphin | :/ |
| 03:46:24 | MonMotha | I've actually been thinking of getting an ameteur radio liscense |
| 03:46:51 | sorphin | nods |
| 03:46:56 | sorphin | mine's due for renew in 2004 |
| 03:47:04 | sorphin | found out, i don't have to retest |
| 03:47:08 | sorphin | was happy |
| 03:47:19 | MonMotha | at least they got rid of the code requirements a while back |
| 03:47:46 | MonMotha | especially good headlines this week on leno |
| 03:48:34 | sorphin | i dunno if i'd ever pass code |
| 03:48:48 | MonMotha | dit dit dit - dah dah dah - dit dit dit :) |
| 03:48:52 | MonMotha | that's about all I know :) |
| 03:49:00 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:49:21 | MonMotha | I was intrigued by the article on turning up the power on 802.11b gear by reclassifying |
| 03:49:31 | MonMotha | ameteur liscense |
| 03:50:01 | scanline | is back (gone 00:32:33) |
| 03:50:05 | sorphin | nods |
| 03:50:36 | MonMotha | I'm guessing the game bzflag is fairly popular in here? :) |
| 03:50:50 | sorphin | apparently |
| 03:50:53 | sorphin | no idea what it is |
| 03:51:01 | sorphin | only game i've ever played w/ bz in it |
| 03:51:05 | sorphin | is Battle Zone |
| 03:51:26 | MonMotha | I've been meaning to try bzflag actually |
| 03:52:02 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:52:20 | MonMotha | oh well, I'll see if I can get the parts I need for this tomorrow |
| 03:52:28 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:52:37 | MonMotha | in the mean time...let me go find all my old pieces parts and see if I can avoid frying my pport :) |
| 03:52:51 | sorphin | is still deciding what to do w/ the tuxes |
| 03:53:01 | MonMotha | I'm probably gunna run the SIP stuff on mine |
| 03:53:15 | MonMotha | if I had a wlan, I'd put it on my ipaq too |
| 03:53:17 | sorphin | inferno side or linux side? |
| 03:53:18 | ][N-Flux | sorphin: how many you have? |
| 03:53:26 | sorphin | ][N-Flux: 2 |
| 03:53:27 | MonMotha | then I could use my ipaq as a two-way pager/cell phone |
| 03:53:37 | ][N-Flux | nice, I'd like to get a second |
| 03:53:44 | MonMotha | sorphin: well, I was gunna tinker with linux, but I could try inferno too |
| 03:54:32 | sorphin | should be safer now to go back and forth since i got Tim to update the reinferno wiki page |
| 03:54:38 | MonMotha | will avoid warming up the soldering iron for the night |
| 03:54:40 | sorphin | going backwards is how i bricked |
| 03:54:53 | MonMotha | that's how people generally brick ipaqs too |
| 03:54:54 | sorphin | ][N-Flux: yeah, got 2 just in case |
| 03:54:57 | MonMotha | much better now |
| 03:55:09 | ][N-Flux | good plan |
| 03:55:22 | MonMotha | can't afford 2 |
| 03:55:30 | sorphin | well, you're a poor student |
| 03:55:32 | sorphin | ;) |
| 03:55:40 | MonMotha | exactly |
| 03:55:48 | MonMotha | I do kinda have a job though |
| 03:55:48 | sorphin | is just an underpaid engineer ;p |
| 03:55:52 | MonMotha | I do consulting for people |
| 03:55:55 | ][N-Flux | isn't gonna bother with inferno unless he get's another |
| 03:56:57 | sorphin | needs irix dammit |
| 03:57:01 | MonMotha | thing is it looks to be a bit easier to brick the tux, and I'm more likely to do somethign wrong since I'll probably be doing some hardware hacking on this sucker |
| 03:57:14 | MonMotha | which is why I was interested in having a jtag option available |
| 03:57:21 | sorphin | yeah |
| 03:57:43 | sorphin | the 5v mod would be nice |
| 03:57:46 | sorphin | btu the pics... |
| 03:57:48 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 04:00:45 | MonMotha | I have no idea what my PC card needs |
| 04:00:50 | MonMotha | it's a cheap-ass NE2k |
| 04:01:13 | sorphin | ne2k will work |
| 04:01:36 | MonMotha | all of them? |
| 04:02:00 | sorphin | ne2k is ne2k |
| 04:02:24 | MonMotha | you've never seen a single variation on the reference design of a PCMCIA NE2k nic? |
| 04:02:57 | sorphin | well, never used an ne2k pcmcia ;) i have of isa tho |
| 04:03:14 | sorphin | glances to the left and looks at where the original 83902 chip is |
| 04:07:04 | MonMotha | this is a PCMCIA |
| 04:07:31 | sorphin | well, should be pretty close |
| 04:07:39 | MonMotha | I guess a PCMCIA bus could theoretically be modified to run an ISA card, but anyway |
| 04:07:42 | sorphin | otherwise can't really call it an ne2k |
| 04:07:44 | MonMotha | sicne it's basically an ISA bus |
| 04:07:50 | MonMotha | true |
| 04:08:17 | sorphin | if it's called an ne2k |
| 04:08:23 | sorphin | it's atleast register compat |
| 04:08:27 | MonMotha | true |
| 04:10:07 | MonMotha | any ideas on this LED sign of mine? |
| 04:10:23 | sorphin | i'd have to see it |
| 04:10:53 | MonMotha | well, I can describe it externally...as I said I think it has a modem in it |
| 04:11:12 | MonMotha | it has a single cable for data, 2 conductors to a RJ-11 plug |
| 04:11:22 | MonMotha | has a comment about "modem on at xx:xx, modem off at xx:xx" |
| 04:11:36 | MonMotha | my idea was to plug it into my old Hayes Smartmodem in leased line mode? |
| 04:12:00 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 04:15:48 | sorphin | = bed.. |
| 04:15:50 | sorphin | night |
| 04:17:08 | MonMotha | gn |
| 06:45:27 | | MonMotha was last seen on #tuxscreen 2 hours, 28 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying: gn [Tue Jul 30 05:17:08 2002] |
| 06:45:27 | Harlekin | ibot: seen MonMotha |
| 06:45:31 | | Morn was last seen on #handhelds.org 11 hours, 4 minutes and 52 seconds ago, saying: hi Jamey [Mon Jul 29 20:40:39 2002] |
| 06:45:31 | Harlekin | ibot: seen Morn |
| 11:10:09 | scanline | haha |
| 11:10:17 | scanline | oops, wrong channel |
| 12:54:18 | scanline | is away: standing in the wet room |
| 13:16:36 | scanline | is back (gone 00:22:17) |
| 13:17:29 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 13:17:47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning dude |
| 13:17:57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whats new? |
| 13:18:05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: made some more progress with x and fltk on zaurus last night |
| 13:20:09 | scanline | thinks about XGGI |
| 13:23:14 | scanline | prpplague: what are you doing with X and fltk? I'd think that it would be pretty easy to use fltk 'out of the box' on something like the Z |
| 13:24:37 | prpplague | scanline: thats what i thought :) |
| 13:24:52 | prpplague | scanline: well, there has been very little work done for x on z |
| 13:25:23 | prpplague | scanline: the only ipkg available has no source because the quy worked for lineo got laid off and moved back to france |
| 13:25:23 | scanline | I'd think most of the iPaq stuff would be easy to use on the zaurus though |
| 13:25:31 | scanline | doh.. that sucks |
| 13:26:44 | prpplague | scanline: ya well most of the binaries work, just not the ipkgs themself |
| 13:29:24 | scanline | What did he have to change in the X server, I'd think it would just be touchscreen stuff? |
| 13:35:54 | prpplague | scanline: well, thats just it, they are using the standard ipaq server, and then using a ts app to translate from z ts to ipaq ts |
| 13:36:03 | scanline | haha |
| 13:36:10 | scanline | instead of just modifying the X server? |
| 13:36:21 | scanline | rummages for his big "Crufty!" stamp |
| 13:36:56 | prpplague | scanline: yep |
| 13:37:25 | prpplague | scanline: once i get every thing kinda running, then i'll start fixing things |
| 13:37:48 | prpplague | scanline: i'm determined to build this even is no one else uses it or someone bets me to the finish |
| 13:37:55 | prpplague | scanline: its been very educational |
| 13:38:17 | scanline | I'd bet so |
| 15:03:26 | MonMotha | someone want me? |
| 15:03:49 | Nermal | yes |
| 15:04:01 | Nermal | runs naked towards MonMotha, yodelling loudly |
| 15:04:13 | MonMotha | ok... |
| 15:04:19 | Nermal | I think I need sleep |
| 15:05:24 | | just a cheap substitute for caffeine. |
| 15:05:24 | sjhill | ibot: what is sleep? |
| 15:05:30 | sjhill | well put |
| 15:17:26 | prpplague | sjhill: nice |
| 15:17:33 | prpplague | sjhill: thats about how i fell today |
| 15:18:26 | CosmicPenguin | half wishes he was busy enough to lose sleep |
| 15:19:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well, i'm not swamped at work, its all this late night hacking on my personall time thats killing me |
| 15:19:54 | sjhill | prpplague: your wife must be a saint |
| 15:20:53 | prpplague | sjhill: as long as i pay the bills she don't care where it comes from, lol |
| 15:21:00 | sjhill | heh |
| 15:24:26 | prpplague | sjhill: she does make good ham sandwiches for lunch though....... |
| 15:31:25 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you are still going to let me know when you decide to open a SLC office, right? :-) |
| 15:32:44 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: sure....... |
| 15:35:42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: problem is that SLC is lacking quality nudie bar and beer.... |
| 15:43:29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nah - we have good beer - but the nudie bar scene is lacking |
| 15:44:30 | signal11 | there are at least a couple. northern exposure & southern exposure etc |
| 15:44:48 | signal11 | not sure how good they are though |
| 15:45:12 | signal11 | i'm sure our porn czar would love to crack down on them |
| 15:49:00 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:49:32 | file | hi prpplague... |
| 15:49:47 | prpplague | file: no |
| 15:50:01 | file | no as in it was sent? :) |
| 15:50:06 | prpplague | file: no |
| 15:50:23 | prpplague | adds "file: no" to his default actions |
| 15:50:28 | file | ok, when should I expect it? |
| 15:50:45 | | OK, prpplague. |
| 15:50:45 | prpplague | ibot: tell file is <action> file: no |
| 15:50:51 | | ACTION file: no |
| 15:50:51 | prpplague | ibot tell file |
| 15:51:42 | prpplague | file: i'll be able to try to send it tomorrow at lunch |
| 15:51:52 | prpplague | file: i'm just kidding around with ya |
| 15:52:37 | file | I know :) |
| 15:52:58 | file | goes back to reading his programming book |
| 15:53:26 | file | and I'm trying to find out how much it would cost to visit Victoria |
| 15:53:28 | file | too much... |
| 15:53:55 | prpplague | Victoria? is that a chick? lol |
| 15:54:45 | file | LOL |
| 15:54:49 | file | it's a city in British Columbia |
| 15:54:55 | file | people from PicoGUI are meeting there |
| 16:11:46 | sorphin | file: no |
| 16:12:02 | file | what |
| 16:12:25 | sorphin | just no |
| 16:17:14 | | ACTION file: no |
| 16:17:14 | prpplague | ibot tell file |
| 16:19:47 | pattieja | is away: lunch |
| 16:20:10 | MonMotha | just looked through his "stash of random chips" (tm) |
| 16:20:15 | sorphin | and? |
| 16:20:19 | sorphin | any luck? |
| 16:20:30 | MonMotha | I certainly don't have any buffers |
| 16:20:40 | MonMotha | I do have a bunch of quad two input NOR gates though :) |
| 16:20:51 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:21:04 | sorphin | too bad those won't work |
| 16:21:12 | MonMotha | yeah, I don't think they amount to what I need :) |
| 16:21:26 | MonMotha | and I have a 556 dual timer too :) |
| 16:22:16 | sorphin | next time, get a machine w/ a 3.3v parallel port ;) |
| 16:22:57 | MonMotha | I also have a few itneresting devices |
| 16:23:05 | MonMotha | http://www.linear.com/pdf/1025fa.pdf |
| 16:23:18 | MonMotha | http://www.linear.com/pdf/lt1050.pdf |
| 16:23:29 | MonMotha | and I have no idea what they're for either :) |
| 16:23:51 | sorphin | heh, can't view pdfs from the commandline ;p |
| 16:24:04 | MonMotha | that would be difficult :) |
| 16:24:06 | sorphin | gimme the name ;p |
| 16:24:44 | MonMotha | the LTC1050 is a "Precision Chopper Stabilized Operational Amplifier With Internal Capacitors" |
| 16:25:06 | MonMotha | and the LT1025 is a "Micropower Thermocouple Cold Junction Compensator" |
| 16:25:24 | MonMotha | as I said, this is the "stash of random chips" :) |
| 16:26:52 | MonMotha | I also have "ICL7650 - 2 MHz, Super Chopper-Stabilized Operational Amplifier" |
| 16:26:55 | MonMotha | again, random junk |
| 16:40:52 | Tangent | MonMotha: I could use those op-amps :) |
| 16:41:22 | Tangent | Nermal: Afternoon |
| 16:41:30 | Nermal | lo lo :) |
| 16:42:18 | Tangent | ssh has to be the most useful thing ever made |
| 16:43:25 | Nermal | and scp :) |
| 16:43:39 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:43:56 | sorphin | Nermal: esp if you're on ntl's network ;) |
| 16:44:01 | Nermal | :P |
| 16:44:26 | Tangent | I just love the way you can pipe commands through it |
| 16:44:29 | sorphin | ;) |
| 16:44:47 | Tangent | tar cvf - /home/jim | ssh root@otherbox 'tar xvf -' |
| 16:45:15 | Tangent | even more useful than scp |
| 16:45:51 | sorphin | heh |
| 16:50:10 | spse | scp takes a -r arg to recurse dirs |
| 17:15:04 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:55:16) |
| 17:48:49 | sjhill | hey andersee |
| 17:59:10 | andersee | hey |
| 17:59:21 | andersee | Just got out of the shower |
| 17:59:37 | sjhill | andersee: just stop there, i don't want to know anymore |
| 17:59:56 | sjhill | is punchy |
| 18:00:05 | andersee | Quoting the movie Willow: "_I_ _Feel_ _Better!" |
| 18:00:07 | andersee | :) |
| 18:00:10 | sjhill | lol |
| 18:00:39 | sjhill | just bought Real Genius last night on DVD |
| 18:01:06 | andersee | Hehe. Another fun one. |
| 18:01:27 | andersee | I could use a cave under my office sometimes. :) |
| 18:01:59 | sjhill | heh |
| 18:02:01 | file | hrms |
| 18:02:14 | sjhill | andersee: we seem to have a problem with log/logf |
| 18:02:16 | MonMotha | Tangent: it would probably be cheaper to buy them on your own than to have me ship em |
| 18:02:25 | andersee | sjhill: oh? Whats up? |
| 18:03:17 | sjhill | in the native toolchain in <c++config.h>, there is the line '#define _GLIBCCPP_HAVE_LOGF 1' |
| 18:04:02 | sjhill | '#define _GLIBCPP_HAVE_LOGF 1' i mean |
| 18:04:51 | MonMotha | Tangent: you know that pipe functionality existed before ssh in the unix command "rsh"? |
| 18:05:01 | MonMotha | of course, rsh was wholly insecure |
| 18:05:27 | DarkDream | hello |
| 18:05:36 | DarkDream | is it to late for the tuxscreen ? |
| 18:05:43 | DarkDream | i wanted to buy one... |
| 18:06:01 | sjhill | DarkDream: so go to the webpage and follow the instructions |
| 18:06:13 | sjhill | andersee: 'sec |
| 18:06:16 | DarkDream | not too late ? |
| 18:07:01 | sjhill | DarkDream: *sigh* the subject line says there are 50 left...pls read |
| 18:07:31 | DarkDream | I'm new with IRC |
| 18:07:39 | DarkDream | So please keep calm |
| 18:07:54 | sjhill | fair enough |
| 18:09:36 | | bzflag was last seen on #gpe 16 hours, 15 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: <private message> [Tue Jul 30 02:54:32 2002] |
| 18:09:36 | MonMotha | ibot seen bzflag |
| 18:12:09 | sjhill | andersee: the problem is that we have some code that is trying to call 'log' and from what i can see, uClibc has 'log', but the c++ headers are screwed up |
| 18:13:23 | sjhill | andersee: look at g++-v3/cmath at around line 331 |
| 18:13:56 | sjhill | andersee: since _GLIBCPP_HAVE_LOGF is defined, c++ code tries to use 'logf' which we don't have |
| 18:14:20 | DarkDream | I've a little question |
| 18:14:41 | DarkDream | What kind of kernel am i allowed to use on the tuxscreen ? |
| 18:14:51 | DarkDream | I suppose that the x86 won't work |
| 18:15:29 | sjhill | andersee: if you look at ' g++-v3/bits/mipsel-linux/bits/c++config.h' at around line #547, you'll see it is indedd defined and we're screwed |
| 18:15:52 | sjhill | DarkDream: no, tuxscreen is a StrongARM based board, you'll have run the ARM kernel |
| 18:16:57 | DarkDream | possible to NAT an internet connection with it ? :) |
| 18:18:29 | prpplague | DarkDream: possible but probably not practical |
| 18:18:55 | DarkDream | why prpplague ? |
| 18:20:20 | prpplague | DarkDream: you'd need to add ether two nics or one nic and a modem, and then configure all the kernel and such |
| 18:20:48 | prpplague | DarkDream: if your looking to go a nat internet, be cheaper just to get a router box like something from linksys |
| 18:20:57 | andersee | sjhill: looks like yet-another glibc-ism |
| 18:21:10 | DarkDream | prpplague: I will put a nic connected to my modem cable and a wireless nic to connected by wireless my computer |
| 18:21:14 | prpplague | DarkDream: or if your wanting to learn to do nating from linux, best to learn it first on a old x86 box |
| 18:21:34 | sjhill | andersee: so, looks like another 'perl' line to be added to the native toolchain build? |
| 18:21:51 | DarkDream | Wireless card works on the tux, I saw it running on it ;) |
| 18:22:02 | prpplague | DarkDream: i mean if you wanna do it go for it, just don't do it if think its going to save you money |
| 18:24:01 | DarkDream | Just for fun |
| 18:24:12 | DarkDream | Monney is created to be used.... |
| 18:25:21 | sjhill | andersee: i think after the c++ headers are installed, we should just change the #define to 0 |
| 18:28:08 | andersee | sjhill: Yes, yet another bit of perl I'm afraid.... |
| 18:28:49 | andersee | sjhill: did you see Shane's post re mips syscalls? |
| 18:29:23 | sjhill | andersee: i saw the subject line in 'elm', but i won't read it until tonight when i pop my mail |
| 18:29:52 | andersee | k |
| 18:38:35 | CosmicPenguin | There is nothing like a 200Mhz processor to make you feel bad about not optimizing your code |
| 18:39:23 | CosmicPenguin | cool little CID applet: ttp://www.nadmm.com/kallers/ |
| 18:39:29 | andersee | A 25 Mhz processor does that even better though. |
| 18:42:42 | file | hiya |
| 18:53:52 | Nermal | lo lo :) |
| 18:54:11 | CosmicPenguin | is starting to like grub more and more every day |
| 18:54:40 | sjhill | hey BZFlag |
| 18:55:01 | sjhill | andersee: the c++ headers don't get created until install time, that sound right? |
| 19:00:15 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I hated lilo. I switched to grub a long while ago, and havn't looked back. :) |
| 19:01:33 | andersee | sjhill: But this is not creation "ex nilo", the trick is to find where they come from and fix that part up in advance |
| 19:01:45 | andersee | hates post-processing |
| 19:02:15 | sjhill | drops head on desk |
| 19:02:28 | andersee | sjhill: BTW, gcc 3.1.1 works fine. |
| 19:02:36 | sjhill | oh..good |
| 19:02:48 | sjhill | currently i don't have an excuse to upgrade |
| 19:02:57 | sjhill | 'suppose i should read the changelog |
| 19:03:20 | andersee | Not too much there. But a quick test shows it compiles and works... |
| 19:11:48 | andersee | sjhill: Ok. Wanna try this? |
| 19:11:50 | andersee | --- Makefile.orig Tue Jul 30 14:14:32 2002 |
| 19:11:51 | andersee | +++ Makefile Tue Jul 30 14:16:51 2002 |
| 19:11:51 | andersee | @@ -422,6 +422,9 @@ |
| 19:11:51 | andersee | $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/src/Makefile.am $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/src/Makefile.in; |
| 19:11:51 | andersee | perl -i -p -e "s,3\.0\.0,9.9.0,g;" $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/acinclude.m4 \ |
| 19:11:51 | andersee | $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/aclocal.m4 $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/configure; |
| 19:11:53 | andersee | + # Disable logf() -- we just use log() in uClibc |
| 19:11:55 | andersee | + -perl -i -p -e "s,_GLIBCPP_HAVE_LOGF,0,g;" $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/include/c_std/std_cmath.h \ |
| 19:11:57 | andersee | + $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/include/c_shadow/bits/std_cmath.h |
| 19:15:49 | sjhill | andersee: don't forget './libstdc++-v3/include/c_shadow/bits/std_cmath.h' too |
| 19:17:20 | sjhill | andersee: oops, duh, sorry, i can't read output |
| 19:17:31 | sjhill | diffs are tough to read in x-chat |
| 19:18:10 | andersee | yeah |
| 19:18:43 | andersee | no prob. I'm pretty sure that one covers it. I'm recompiling now just to be sure |
| 19:19:00 | sjhill | begins rebuilding his RPM too |
| 19:21:40 | sjhill | andersee: ummm....we need to do this for all the trig functions i'm sorry to say |
| 19:22:47 | sjhill | wiat |
| 19:25:05 | sjhill | andersee: yup, all the trig functions are like this |
| 19:25:47 | sjhill | andersee: i guess not a whole lot of people have exercise native uclibc c++ math yet |
| 19:29:00 | CosmicPenguin | http://www.sics.se/~adam/uvnc/ |
| 19:30:04 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: that's sick |
| 19:30:37 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: why? |
| 19:30:38 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 19:31:02 | sjhill | it just seems weird, interesting, but weird...someone has way too much time on their hands |
| 19:32:26 | CosmicPenguin | I dunno - I think it has its place |
| 19:32:39 | CosmicPenguin | consider a MP3 player with a 8 bit microprocessor and a bluetooth stack |
| 19:32:51 | CosmicPenguin | Or better yet, consider a stereo with the same |
| 19:33:05 | sjhill | hmmm... |
| 19:33:07 | sjhill | ponders |
| 19:34:46 | CosmicPenguin | I guess I just like it when people make things smaller, not bigger |
| 19:34:52 | prpplague | watches smoke wisps from sjhill's ears |
| 19:35:02 | file | erms |
| 19:35:04 | sjhill | heh |
| 19:38:58 | sjhill | andersee: still there? |
| 19:49:32 | MonMotha | sorphin: you here? |
| 19:57:23 | file | Russ? |
| 19:58:36 | CosmicPenguin | mallum? |
| 19:58:50 | CosmicPenguin | Everybody pair up! |
| 20:02:08 | MonMotha | heh |
| 20:05:37 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: 'ello guv ;) |
| 20:06:17 | MonMotha | well, one pair has been formed |
| 20:06:23 | MonMotha | two are still pending |
| 20:09:51 | prpplague | MonMotha: pair for what? |
| 20:10:06 | MonMotha | referring to CosmicPenguin's statement :) |
| 20:11:04 | prpplague | ahh, i didn't read.... |
| 21:07:42 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats ok - the joke wasn't very funny |
| 21:09:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya well, its one of those days where all i can do is laugh at the stupid stuff here at the office |
| 21:19:13 | CosmicPenguin | has zero motivation for work today |
| 21:19:27 | CosmicPenguin | Which means I'll have plenty of energy to go home and finish the XML parser (I hope) |
| 21:20:07 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ;) |
| 21:20:30 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: BTW I've been asked to write an article on matchbox for linuxdevices.com |
| 21:23:30 | prpplague | mallum: wahoo |
| 21:23:36 | prpplague | mallum: rick call ya? |
| 21:25:36 | mallum | prpplague: mailed me |
| 21:25:51 | mallum | prpplague: I've nearly finished the article |
| 21:28:07 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: contracts - you hit the big time |
| 21:28:15 | CosmicPenguin | s/contracts/congrats/ |
| 21:28:45 | CosmicPenguin | I just wish we could use in Microwindows - but alas |
| 21:30:22 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: whats the problem ? |
| 21:30:35 | file | prpplague? |
| 21:30:43 | file | Russ? |
| 21:39:28 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I hireable to do a microwindows port BTW ;) |
| 21:40:51 | sorphin | hireable eh? :P |
| 21:41:15 | mallum | sorphin: currently coding php for food :( |
| 21:42:06 | | ACTION file: no |
| 21:42:06 | prpplague | ibot: tell file |
| 21:42:14 | sorphin | prpplague: ;) |
| 21:42:20 | sorphin | mallum: my sympathies |
| 21:42:21 | file | prpplague: yes |
| 21:42:51 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: if you want my job, you can have it |
| 21:42:57 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:43:28 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: do you get more than 20 quid an hour before tax ? |
| 21:43:30 | prpplague | mallum: guess i'll let you know in tomorrow then on how to cvs build goes |
| 21:43:40 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: that depends on what a quid is worth.. :) |
| 21:43:49 | mallum | prpplague: yep - should be fine - I'll be up for approx another hour |
| 21:43:50 | file | is looking forward to azmarith arriving |
| 21:43:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: around $2USD |
| 21:43:56 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 21:43:59 | sorphin | wrong |
| 21:44:24 | mallum | it was about 1.3$ last time I checked ( A while ago ) |
| 21:44:29 | sorphin | exchange rate has never been that bad ;p (tho it does suck going to US) |
| 21:44:33 | prpplague | sorphin: what changed recently? |
| 21:44:36 | prpplague | wow |
| 21:44:39 | CosmicPenguin | hold on - stupid american question..... is 1 quid == 1 pound? |
| 21:44:39 | prpplague | didn't know that |
| 21:44:44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: no |
| 21:44:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: slang like "buck" |
| 21:44:50 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 21:45:00 | CosmicPenguin | wow - you learn something new every day |
| 21:45:04 | sorphin | when i was in england in it was .66 pence to $1 US |
| 21:45:20 | mallum | sorphin: yeah that sounds about right |
| 21:45:23 | sorphin | so... |
| 21:45:24 | MonMotha | sorphin: hey, you are here |
| 21:45:35 | sorphin | your 3 pound 50 value meal |
| 21:45:37 | mallum | sorphin: a few years back it was 1 pound = 2 $ |
| 21:45:38 | sorphin | just cost you |
| 21:45:40 | sorphin | $6 |
| 21:45:42 | CosmicPenguin | I thought quid was multiple pounds, kind of like "sawbuck" in US slang |
| 21:45:43 | prpplague | hmm, sounds like a time to take a trip to the UK |
| 21:46:05 | sorphin | wtf is sawbuck ;p |
| 21:46:08 | sorphin | never heard of that one ;p |
| 21:46:14 | prpplague | me either |
| 21:46:27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: must be something from those utah boys |
| 21:46:36 | sorphin | must be |
| 21:46:45 | sorphin | MonMotha: yup, here i am |
| 21:46:50 | CosmicPenguin | sawbuck = $20 |
| 21:46:58 | CosmicPenguin | Gimme a couple of sawbucks, they would say |
| 21:46:59 | MonMotha | sorphin: question on that jtag schem |
| 21:47:09 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: most normal ppl, just say 20 bucks ;p |
| 21:47:10 | CosmicPenguin | Anway, mallum - the answer to your question is yes |
| 21:47:11 | MonMotha | coudld I replace the 74HC244 (http://www.solarbotics.net/library/datasheets/74HC244.pdf) in it with a SN74244N (http://tapec.uv.es/edupic/doc/SN74LS240-D.pdf)? |
| 21:47:29 | MonMotha | lookser SN742LS244N |
| 21:47:29 | sorphin | MonMotha: a 74244 is a 74244 |
| 21:47:36 | MonMotha | k |
| 21:47:36 | MonMotha | works |
| 21:47:37 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I think tech salaries are much better ( or at least were ) in the US than the UK |
| 21:47:38 | sorphin | all that's diff |
| 21:47:43 | sorphin | is the power requirements |
| 21:47:45 | sorphin | aka |
| 21:47:46 | MonMotha | the volates are diff, yeah |
| 21:47:50 | prpplague | mallum: depends on the part of the country |
| 21:47:50 | sorphin | a 74HCT244 |
| 21:47:54 | MonMotha | but they appear to fall within the range |
| 21:48:06 | sorphin | is a CMOS chip w/ ttl compat inputs |
| 21:48:07 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: yeah, they were - but its real hard to get a good salary these days if you are inexperienced |
| 21:48:08 | MonMotha | I have an SN742LS244N |
| 21:48:23 | sorphin | supply voltage of 3 to 6V |
| 21:48:26 | sorphin | whereas |
| 21:48:29 | MonMotha | unfortunately, I don't have any 100ohm or 2.2kohm resisotrs |
| 21:48:30 | prpplague | mallum: i make alot less than if i were in california, but the cost of living here is much lower so i end up with alot more cash than if i were in california |
| 21:48:30 | sorphin | a 74HC244 |
| 21:48:32 | MonMotha | believe it or not... |
| 21:48:37 | sorphin | is 5V ttl |
| 21:48:43 | sorphin | 4.5 to 5.5v |
| 21:48:58 | sorphin | MonMotha: rs |
| 21:49:01 | mallum | prpplague: are you in utah ? |
| 21:49:04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: same with Utah (plus you get to have multiple wifes as a bonus) |
| 21:49:05 | MonMotha | yeah, they should have those |
| 21:49:07 | prpplague | mallum: texas |
| 21:49:11 | MonMotha | don't need to build it yet |
| 21:49:13 | sorphin | MonMotha: that's about all they have these days |
| 21:49:14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, good one |
| 21:49:16 | MonMotha | don't have the tux yet |
| 21:49:20 | sorphin | picked up a 74hct244 |
| 21:49:21 | mallum | prpplague: ah would like to go to texas |
| 21:49:24 | sorphin | $.80 |
| 21:49:31 | MonMotha | I do have som 1kohms and 220ohm |
| 21:49:41 | prpplague | mallum: and i want to got to the UK, lol |
| 21:49:43 | sorphin | way cheaper than RS would ever charge |
| 21:49:44 | MonMotha | so I could make a 2.2, but I only have enough to make two of them |
| 21:49:59 | mallum | prpplague: it was 93 degrees yesterday in the UK ! |
| 21:50:01 | CosmicPenguin | MonMotha and sorphin: Not to be rude, but could you guys take it to a /msg? |
| 21:50:07 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
| 21:50:09 | MonMotha | I think we're done :) |
| 21:50:13 | CosmicPenguin | Ahh - then all is well |
| 21:50:22 | sorphin | i think electronic talk is more useful than talking about what state you're in ;p |
| 21:50:39 | sorphin | last i checked, this was tuxscreen, not world atlas ;p |
| 21:50:55 | prpplague | mallum: ya we've had the coolest summer on record, the highest we been all sumer is 98 degrees |
| 21:50:57 | CosmicPenguin | Yeah, but we're talking salaries here - you know, the money that lets us buy more electronics |
| 21:51:09 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: don't look like it to me |
| 21:51:13 | MonMotha | sure, sure |
| 21:51:50 | sorphin | wonders who else here besides him actually has their tux :P |
| 21:52:17 | CosmicPenguin | has had his tux almost a year |
| 21:52:19 | mallum | At the time of .com madness I was trying to get a visa to work in sv, but the company that was horing me folded :( |
| 21:52:20 | prpplague | lol, i do sorphin, but they have been made into dev boards |
| 21:52:31 | mallum | s/horing/hiring/ |
| 21:52:33 | mallum | ;) |
| 21:52:37 | sorphin | mallum: whoring is more like it ;) |
| 21:52:46 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I thought companies that do horing are pretty successful |
| 21:52:50 | prpplague | mallum: freudin slip? |
| 21:52:58 | sorphin | if you worked for a .com |
| 21:53:00 | sorphin | you were definately whoring |
| 21:53:21 | mallum | prpplague: yeah I think so |
| 21:53:23 | sorphin | prpplague: all of em? why? |
| 21:53:30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: done anything w/ it? ;p |
| 21:53:49 | Harlekin | how do i turn of the red flashing light |
| 21:53:54 | Harlekin | its blinking since hours |
| 21:53:56 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 21:53:58 | sorphin | Harlekin: a large hammer |
| 21:54:15 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: yeah - I had it running Microwindows before I bricked it the other day |
| 21:54:36 | Harlekin | sorphin: any serious ideas |
| 21:54:39 | | morn was last seen on #handhelds.org 1 days, 2 hours, 14 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: hi Jamey [Mon Jul 29 20:40:39 2002] |
| 21:54:39 | Harlekin | ibot: seen morn |
| 21:54:40 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: well, then what me and monmontha were discussing wasn't irrelevant ;p |
| 21:54:50 | prpplague | sorphin: the tux makes a great dev board for $99, the closet things is around $1000, and do ya really want to do some scary stuff with a $1000 board? |
| 21:54:56 | file | all in favorite of keeping it Linux say aye, say aye |
| 21:54:57 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: sure it was - unless you are building the mod board |
| 21:55:03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: umm |
| 21:55:05 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: wrong |
| 21:55:15 | sorphin | we were talking about a chip for the jtag dongle ;p |
| 21:55:21 | CosmicPenguin | same difference |
| 21:55:23 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: I'm building a jtag dongle |
| 21:55:31 | MonMotha | proto boards are REALLY handy |
| 21:55:37 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: unlike me, he has to use the buffer |
| 21:55:45 | sorphin | cuz none of his parallel ports are 3.3v |
| 21:56:00 | sorphin | so i was just advising |
| 21:56:20 | prpplague | ok guys, i'm off to the house to work on my zaurus stuff |
| 21:56:23 | prpplague | bbl |
| 21:56:23 | sorphin | have fun |
| 21:56:38 | sorphin | Harlekin: which red light you mean? the message light? |
| 21:56:39 | Harlekin | really nobody an idea about the "call" light? |
| 21:56:42 | Harlekin | sorphin: yes |
| 21:56:50 | Harlekin | sorphin: there was an call in absence |
| 21:56:58 | Harlekin | and since then its blinking |
| 21:57:04 | sorphin | umm.. there's an option in um.. phone config or whatever |
| 21:57:06 | sorphin | to reset the light |
| 21:57:16 | sorphin | don't have a tux on atm |
| 21:57:21 | CosmicPenguin | is away: off to home |
| 21:57:53 | Harlekin | um.. phone? |
| 21:58:16 | sorphin | hold on, lemme boot a tux ;p |
| 21:58:27 | file | cries |
| 21:58:35 | sorphin | file: no |
| 21:58:46 | file | I want a Websurfer Pro... or an I-Opener... or a Tuxscreen... or my laptop... or a Virgin Webplayer |
| 21:58:54 | sorphin | no |
| 21:58:54 | sorphin | no |
| 21:58:55 | sorphin | no |
| 21:59:20 | file | yes? |
| 21:59:25 | sorphin | nope |
| 21:59:29 | file | why? |
| 21:59:37 | sorphin | because |
| 21:59:50 | file | sorphin : have anything that I can use? |
| 22:00:09 | sorphin | file: you already know what i have. |
| 22:00:14 | sorphin | Harlekin: phone options |
| 22:00:18 | file | no I don't :) |
| 22:00:22 | sorphin | right next to call id options |
| 22:00:27 | sorphin | file: um.. yeah, you do |
| 22:00:32 | Harlekin | sorphin: /me has hist tux since yesterday, not idea what you mean |
| 22:00:37 | file | sorphin: not all of it |
| 22:00:46 | sorphin | 2 io's, wsp, buncha tivos, sparcs, etc.. |
| 22:00:56 | file | oohs at the TiVos |
| 22:00:56 | sorphin | Harlekin: um.. the lil bar at the bottom |
| 22:01:04 | sorphin | of the screen |
| 22:01:15 | Harlekin | oh, in X? |
| 22:01:22 | sorphin | umm |
| 22:01:30 | sorphin | you're running linux already eh? |
| 22:01:34 | Harlekin | yeah |
| 22:01:35 | sorphin | can't help you then. |
| 22:01:38 | Harlekin | ah |
| 22:01:39 | Harlekin | heheh |
| 22:01:43 | sorphin | backed out of linux on his tux's |
| 22:01:44 | Harlekin | hmm |
| 22:01:48 | file | sorphin: can I take one of your TiVos? |
| 22:01:48 | sorphin | no point |
| 22:01:57 | sorphin | i don't want 'just anotehr linux box' ;p |
| 22:02:05 | sorphin | file: you can't "take" anything of mine. |
| 22:02:12 | file | sorphin: why? |
| 22:02:15 | Harlekin | wants to put opie on to sync the addressbook on it |
| 22:02:27 | sorphin | file: because i don't give hardware away ;p |
| 22:02:36 | file | sorphin: take != give |
| 22:02:44 | sorphin | take implies steal ;p |
| 22:02:48 | sorphin | and you can't do that either |
| 22:02:53 | file | quite right |
| 22:03:01 | file | what can I get for $25 :p |
| 22:03:05 | sorphin | nothing that i have |
| 22:03:29 | file | why? |
| 22:03:43 | sorphin | um.. because everything i have is worth more than $25? ;p |
| 22:03:59 | file | whimpers |
| 22:04:07 | file | got a hub? |
| 22:04:13 | file | needs a hub |
| 22:04:27 | sorphin | nope |
| 22:04:30 | file | bleh |
| 22:04:35 | sorphin | hasn't had a hub in ages |
| 22:04:42 | sorphin | has a $600 switch ;p |
| 22:04:44 | file | then there's bound to be one in storage! |
| 22:05:16 | sorphin | doesn't think you take a hint very well |
| 22:05:28 | file | wants a hub/needs a hub |
| 22:06:43 | file | sorphin : I know what I can do! |
| 22:06:47 | sorphin | so go buy one |
| 22:07:08 | file | doesn't have the $$$ |
| 22:07:22 | sorphin | guess you're sol |
| 22:07:31 | file | decides to bug sorphin instead |
| 22:07:46 | file | sorphin: I want my laptop. Guess what model it is! |
| 22:08:24 | sorphin | doesn't know nor care. |
| 22:08:32 | file | sorphin : well it's a Thinkpad 560 |
| 22:08:41 | file | sorphin : have you ever used those? |
| 22:08:53 | sorphin | um.. no, because i have a thinkpad A21p ;p |
| 22:09:00 | file | adn why do you have that? |
| 22:09:12 | sorphin | because i do? :P |
| 22:09:22 | file | ic |
| 22:09:25 | file | how much did it cost? |
| 22:10:09 | sorphin | cost me $1750 (less than list cost) |
| 22:10:14 | file | neat |
| 22:10:18 | file | guess how much mine cost me? |
| 22:10:22 | file | -? |
| 22:11:16 | file | don't be a stick in the mud - guess |
| 22:11:20 | file | I'll give you a candy! |
| 22:11:32 | | ACTION file: no |
| 22:11:32 | sorphin | ibot: tell file |
| 22:11:44 | file | stuffs ibot full of candies |
| 22:12:07 | sorphin | thinks file must be very very young ;p |
| 22:12:13 | file | is 15 |
| 22:12:28 | file | and going nuts because my laptop isn't here!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:12:29 | Harlekin | file: you then any idea about the new call flashing thing |
| 22:12:45 | file | Harlekin : huh? |
| 22:13:02 | Harlekin | file: how to turn it of |
| 22:13:12 | file | dunno |
| 22:13:14 | sorphin | Harlekin: he doesn't even have a tux, most likely |
| 22:13:20 | Harlekin | ah |
| 22:13:23 | Harlekin | grrrr |
| 22:13:25 | file | sorphin : what if I did? |
| 22:13:36 | sorphin | i'd be amazed, and wonder who bought it for you ;p |
| 22:13:49 | file | sorphin : wait until I get paid! I'm going on a shopping spree |
| 22:13:54 | file | after I put some into a mutual fund that is |
| 22:14:22 | sorphin | yeah |
| 22:14:23 | sorphin | right |
| 22:14:30 | sorphin | and where do you work? :P |
| 22:14:37 | file | Silicon Safari Inc |
| 22:14:50 | sorphin | uh huh |
| 22:14:54 | file | I code programs for them |
| 22:14:57 | sorphin | and you're 15 |
| 22:15:03 | file | sorphin : why, want a phone number? |
| 22:15:06 | file | yes |
| 22:15:13 | sorphin | last i checked, that's not even legal ;p |
| 22:15:21 | file | actually it is |
| 22:15:27 | file | my parents just sign the contracts with me |
| 22:15:32 | file | NDA agreements and such |
| 22:16:23 | sorphin | and the child labor laws? |
| 22:16:42 | file | what about them? |
| 22:17:19 | sorphin | in most states, 15 requires a work permit, etc, and your pay would go to your parents ;p |
| 22:17:29 | file | I'm Canadian :p |
| 22:18:37 | file | I just write my programs and they pay me for it... |
| 22:19:18 | sorphin | heh, a canuck, that says it all ;p |
| 22:19:52 | file | most people call US people canucks, or so I'm told |
| 22:20:48 | sorphin | umm |
| 22:20:54 | sorphin | US or U.S. ? :P |
| 22:51:53 | Russ | yes file? |
| 22:52:19 | sorphin | wow, he lives |
| 23:13:50 | file | wb prpplague |
| 23:15:11 | prpplague | thanks |
| 23:16:18 | file | prpplague : if you send azmarith tomorrow can you ask the clerk something for me? |
| 23:17:56 | | ACTION file: no |
| 23:17:56 | prpplague | ibot tell file |
| 23:18:09 | file | pretty please? :p |
| 23:18:15 | | ACTION file: no |
| 23:18:15 | prpplague | ibot tell file |
| 23:18:21 | prpplague | file: what? |
| 23:18:33 | file | prpplague: how long surface mail to Canada really takes |
| 23:18:42 | prpplague | ok |
| 23:19:03 | file | 4-6 weeks sir |
| 23:25:55 | scanline | is away: shopping |
| 23:30:46 | file | twitches |
| 23:31:09 | root | argh! fscking network card! |
| 23:32:11 | file | Agarwal : clarify |
| 23:32:45 | Agarwal | i've been trying to figure out the problem of my network card (d-link de-660+) for 2 days now... |
| 23:33:02 | Agarwal | it is correctly identified, and supposely correctly configured, but I still cant ping anywhere |
| 23:33:46 | Agarwal | ifconfig is alright, as well as route |
| 23:33:59 | Agarwal | it's as if the card do not get interrupts correctly or something... |
| 23:34:28 | Agarwal | the "on act" light flashes when I try to ping somewhere tho, but doesnt when I try to ping the tuxscreen from somewhere else |
| 23:35:10 | Agarwal | is desesperate about this card :( |
| 23:37:20 | Agarwal | if someone has any idea, please msg me |
| 23:40:59 | andersee | Agarwal: is the card perhaps a 5 Volt only card? |
| 23:42:23 | Agarwal | that would be surprising; there's no error or nothing... the card just wont work (but the lights are on and all) |
| 23:43:12 | Agarwal | it's a de-660+, and theres someone on the wiki who uses a de-660, but don't know if there's much difference between them... |
| 23:46:05 | Russ | Agarwal: sounds like 5v card symptoms to me |
| 23:47:10 | Agarwal | hmm... |
| 23:47:29 | Agarwal | wouldnt I get some 5v errors if it would be a 5v card? |
| 23:47:57 | andersee | Not necessarily... You would just see it trying to work, but not working. |
| 23:47:59 | Agarwal | Because I tried a 5v card, and I got some errors (Bad VCC IIRC) |
| 23:49:10 | Agarwal | another pointer is that some users (not tuxscreen users tho) seems to experience the problem... but I havent found a solution anywhere yet |