| 01:19:01 | legodude | quiet room |
| 01:21:05 | prpplague | legodude: normally its pretty busy |
| 01:21:22 | prpplague | legodude: but a lot of ppl have been laid off or work overtime on projects |
| 01:21:24 | legodude | ja |
| 01:21:56 | legodude | is there much of any development going on in the tuxscreen community? |
| 01:22:33 | legodude | the mailing list is dead |
| 01:22:39 | legodude | dead in here |
| 01:22:44 | legodude | wiki doesn't change that much |
| 01:22:50 | legodude | is there any place I've missed? |
| 01:24:11 | andersee | legodude: are you hoping that someone else will do all the work? ;-) |
| 01:24:17 | legodude | nono |
| 01:24:21 | legodude | I'm getting up to speed on it |
| 01:24:31 | legodude | I just want to see what the current status of stuff like the cf loader is |
| 01:24:39 | jacques | legodude: unfortunately various factors have slowed things to a crawl |
| 01:24:52 | legodude | cause being able to build a new distro on cf and boot off that would speed devel quite a bit I think |
| 01:25:33 | legodude | my understanding is that one has to reflash the flash over the serial port everytime you want to test new changes, correct? |
| 01:26:27 | andersee | legodude: I nfs mount my buildroot-tux/buid/root and then chroot into it to test things.... |
| 01:26:34 | legodude | ooh |
| 01:26:38 | legodude | that'd work too |
| 01:26:45 | legodude | much nicer |
| 01:27:00 | legodude | is there a howto for this somewhere? |
| 01:27:11 | legodude | or just fool around? |
| 01:28:28 | andersee | I dunno. I setup an nfs export on my devel system, then added a little script to nfs mount my devel stuff. Seemed simple enough I never bothered to document it. |
| 01:28:41 | legodude | alright |
| 01:28:49 | legodude | I'll have to take a look at it once I get everything working |
| 01:28:56 | legodude | first on the agenda for tomorrow is mod it for 5v |
| 01:29:13 | legodude | and get my solaris machine working with the cross compilers and fddi |
| 01:52:09 | warewolf | hrm. |
| 01:52:12 | warewolf | where is my 3com pcmcia card. |
| 01:52:15 | warewolf | this linksys is 5v. |
| 01:52:16 | legodude | there |
| 01:52:18 | legodude | points |
| 01:53:47 | warewolf | oh! |
| 01:53:49 | warewolf | thanks for the help! |
| 01:55:05 | warewolf | drat, it wasn't there. |
| 01:55:08 | legodude | hrm |
| 01:55:16 | legodude | time for 5v mod then? |
| 01:56:36 | warewolf | aha, found the 3com card. |
| 01:56:39 | warewolf | lets see if it's 5v aswell |
| 01:56:43 | legodude | what model is it/ |
| 01:56:46 | legodude | 589? |
| 01:56:54 | warewolf | damn. |
| 01:56:57 | warewolf | 5v aswell. |
| 01:57:01 | legodude | how do you know? |
| 01:57:02 | warewolf | yes, 589 |
| 01:57:07 | warewolf | I put it in my laptop |
| 01:57:12 | legodude | that tells you? |
| 01:57:14 | warewolf | and (linux) and ran 'cardctl status' |
| 01:57:17 | legodude | ahso |
| 01:57:51 | warewolf | bash-2.05a# cardctl status |
| 01:57:51 | warewolf | Socket 0: |
| 01:57:51 | warewolf | 5V 16-bit PC Card |
| 01:57:51 | warewolf | function 0: [ready] |
| 01:58:01 | warewolf | bash-2.05a# cardctl ident |
| 01:58:01 | warewolf | Socket 0: |
| 01:58:01 | warewolf | product info: "3Com Corporation", "3C589D", "TP/BNC LAN Card Ver. 2a", "000002" |
| 01:58:01 | warewolf | manfid: 0x0101, 0x0589 |
| 01:58:01 | warewolf | function: 6 (network) |
| 01:58:32 | warewolf | sadly enough, those are my only pcmcia ethernet cards. |
| 01:58:52 | legodude | do the 5v mod then |
| 01:58:54 | warewolf | I do have a 5/3v smart media adapter card though. |
| 01:59:09 | legodude | it appears to be only desoldering two resistors and adding two wires |
| 01:59:28 | warewolf | I thought there was a LED in there for something |
| 01:59:40 | legodude | not in the ones I've seen |
| 01:59:47 | legodude | diode you mean? |
| 01:59:55 | legodude | some have a diode |
| 01:59:57 | warewolf | led == light emitting diode |
| 02:00:05 | warewolf | so maybe |
| 02:00:08 | warewolf | it was in the wiki |
| 02:00:13 | legodude | which seems to allow for dual voltage |
| 02:00:20 | warewolf | that'd be nice |
| 02:00:22 | legodude | I think you mighta read the schematic incorrectly |
| 02:00:27 | legodude | but you have to have a switch or something |
| 02:00:27 | warewolf | heh |
| 02:00:34 | legodude | that's my understanding |
| 02:00:37 | warewolf | it's hard to read a picture of the actual hardware incorrectly :) |
| 02:00:42 | prpplague | andersee: so you got you new household addition working on BB code yet? |
| 02:00:43 | warewolf | I know what a red led looks like :) |
| 02:00:45 | legodude | no one here could clarify it last time I read |
| 02:00:46 | legodude | hrm |
| 02:00:50 | legodude | I didn't see that one then |
| 02:00:54 | scanline | That wasn't an LED |
| 02:01:24 | scanline | The drawing had diodes and a switch for selecting 5v or 3v for the slot, but if you want you can hardwire one or both slots for 5v, using only a wire |
| 02:01:25 | warewolf | curses at the wiki thta won't render in netscape 4.76 |
| 02:01:51 | prpplague | warewolf: go for mozzi |
| 02:01:56 | warewolf | nod |
| 02:01:59 | scanline | galeon :) |
| 02:02:05 | legodude | galeon is nice |
| 02:02:10 | legodude | konq too |
| 02:02:15 | legodude | both very nice browsers |
| 02:02:18 | prpplague | warewolf: i've actually used links pretty well on the wiki |
| 02:02:34 | legodude | argh |
| 02:02:39 | legodude | hates solaris at times |
| 02:06:12 | legodude | gaaah |
| 02:09:21 | warewolf | ah, found where I saw the led |
| 02:09:22 | warewolf | http://erire.com/eshan/ |
| 02:09:47 | warewolf | http://erire.com/eshan/epcmcia66b.jpg specifically |
| 02:09:57 | warewolf | anyway. |
| 02:10:03 | scanline | warewolf: oh.. those mods from sharp suck |
| 02:10:25 | scanline | both were designed with lots of unnecessary components |
| 02:11:37 | warewolf | heh, ok |
| 02:11:51 | scanline | the ones on the wiki that were designed by GPSfan are much better |
| 02:13:08 | scanline | I was the first one to successfully assemble the original shanip mod, and it turned out that the amplifier only gave the expected results with really low gains anyway.. so the new design is just some filters and attenuators |
| 02:13:30 | warewolf | ah |
| 02:13:36 | warewolf | I'd love to do the shanip mod |
| 02:13:39 | legodude | scanline: is the new shanip on the wiki? |
| 02:13:42 | scanline | the shanip mod is cool |
| 02:13:44 | scanline | I think so |
| 02:13:44 | legodude | that's my next project |
| 02:14:10 | scanline | I dunno if anyone's done PCBs for the shanip2 mod yet, but there are schematics either on the wiki or in the download directory on tuxscreen.net |
| 02:14:15 | legodude | I want to modify the phone line interface so it will disconnect the phone lines on command |
| 02:14:28 | scanline | I think it can already do that |
| 02:14:35 | legodude | ooh |
| 02:14:41 | scanline | IIRC there's a phone line relay controlled by the DSP |
| 02:14:53 | legodude | that's exactly what I was going to do |
| 02:14:55 | legodude | argh |
| 02:15:02 | legodude | I have issues with the docs of the shannon |
| 02:15:19 | scanline | The one CosmicPenguin put together? |
| 02:15:30 | legodude | just in general |
| 02:18:13 | warewolf | ya know |
| 02:18:25 | warewolf | I have a friend who does tivo hacking and made his own ethernet card |
| 02:18:34 | warewolf | sent of the plans to get boards made and populated |
| 02:18:50 | warewolf | I wonder if I could get him to make PCBs for the shannon |
| 02:18:56 | legodude | places like www.expresspcb.com will do that |
| 02:19:02 | legodude | I use them for all of my PCBs |
| 02:19:02 | scanline | The shanip2 mod is really simple |
| 02:19:08 | scanline | just a few resistors and capacitors |
| 02:19:19 | legodude | easy to breadboard it out |
| 02:19:26 | scanline | GoRK was designing a PCB for it a while back |
| 02:19:37 | legodude | a pcb should take like 5min for that |
| 02:19:41 | warewolf | yeah but I'm sure there are people out there who would much rather prefer (like myself) who would rather have some PCB they just attach wires to |
| 02:19:50 | legodude | if there is interest I'll do it in expresspcb format |
| 02:20:11 | scanline | expresspcb's pretty good.. I've ordered a few boards from them |
| 02:20:18 | legodude | ja |
| 02:20:44 | legodude | I like their cheapo 3.5x1.8 service especially if you can fit more than one design on the board |
| 02:23:57 | scanline | I've used expresspcb for a 68EZ328 board I made a while back, and just a week ago or so I got a board for a 16x16 grid of surface mount LEDs |
| 02:24:56 | legodude | I still wish they were cheaper |
| 02:25:06 | warewolf | do they populate the components on the pcb for yo? |
| 02:25:08 | legodude | like I'd love a $20 service for like a single 1x2" board |
| 02:25:16 | legodude | I don't think they do warewolf |
| 02:25:20 | legodude | though I may be mistaken |
| 02:25:24 | legodude | www.expresspcb.com |
| 02:25:35 | scanline | yeah.. it would also be nice to have import/export to standard formats |
| 02:25:41 | legodude | yes |
| 02:25:47 | warewolf | egad, I have an 80gb drive just stitting around |
| 02:25:58 | legodude | I've toyed around with the idea of reverse engineering their file format |
| 02:25:59 | scanline | and their software needs to handle metric units better |
| 02:26:09 | legodude | and be a bit faster |
| 02:26:14 | legodude | it's a bit sluggish on my system |
| 02:26:20 | scanline | nods |
| 02:27:45 | switchcat | greetings |
| 02:28:03 | warewolf | anyone have a place you can find the dram chips to do the onboard upgrade at? |
| 02:28:31 | warewolf | eg, digikey, mouser, ... |
| 02:29:18 | legodude | ugh |
| 02:29:24 | legodude | smd scares me |
| 02:29:40 | legodude | DIP all the way |
| 02:29:49 | warewolf | rofl |
| 02:30:14 | scanline | solders 0.5mm pitch TQFP chips in his sleep ;) |
| 02:31:56 | legodude | ugh |
| 02:31:59 | legodude | I'm not that hardcore yet |
| 02:32:09 | legodude | luckily my AVRs are all dip |
| 02:32:31 | scanline | Nah.. I'm not really that hardcore, just a software guy that dabbles in hardware occasionally |
| 02:32:55 | scanline | but I'll do whatever's necessary to solder something :) |
| 02:39:51 | prpplague | scanline: .5mm ? |
| 02:40:12 | prpplague | scanline: i've done some, but the quality suffers |
| 02:41:22 | scanline | Well, I never said it looks good when I do it... |
| 02:41:53 | scanline | grumbles at his LED matrix controller and looks for his oscilloscope |
| 02:42:19 | legodude | I need a 5x5 led matrix controller |
| 02:42:58 | scanline | the one I'm designing is 16x16, has PWM brightness control, and a USB interface |
| 02:43:12 | scanline | for 5x5, you could use any small microcontroller probably |
| 02:43:23 | legodude | ja |
| 02:43:27 | legodude | they have chips for 5x7 |
| 02:43:52 | scanline | this one will be mainly for music visualization and other special effects, so no character generator in mine |
| 02:43:54 | warewolf | dammit. |
| 02:43:58 | warewolf | I was gonna upgrade the flash. |
| 02:44:03 | warewolf | but, alas, no +12v. |
| 02:45:29 | scanline | hrm.. found my scope but no probes |
| 02:45:37 | legodude | I want a scope bad |
| 02:45:48 | warewolf | oh wait, I just happen to have a 12v transformer for a X10 doojiggy. |
| 02:46:24 | scanline | legodude: mine's a cheapo scope my Dad got at a garage sale or something, long ago |
| 02:46:35 | legodude | how many mhz? |
| 02:47:49 | scanline | 50mhz analog Hitachi scope |
| 02:49:08 | warewolf | dammit |
| 02:49:13 | warewolf | the inferno install script is braindead |
| 02:52:07 | legodude | howso? |
| 02:52:24 | legodude | I just had some voip fun with my voip blasters |
| 02:52:31 | legodude | hopefully h232 is better |
| 02:52:50 | legodude | h323 |
| 02:53:08 | warewolf | there, it's installing. |
| 03:04:54 | legodude | bitches about the lack of a local electronic parts store |
| 03:14:02 | legodude | wants a 250mhz scope |
| 03:15:53 | MonMotha | legodude: you don't have a radio shack? |
| 03:16:01 | MonMotha | they don't carry them in store, but they can order just about anything |
| 03:16:09 | legodude | we have a radio shack |
| 03:16:13 | MonMotha | (they probably carried them in store 10 years ago, that's the sad thing) |
| 03:16:15 | legodude | I mean for parts |
| 03:16:19 | legodude | they have nothing partwise I mean |
| 03:16:23 | legodude | I'd get a scope off of ebay |
| 03:16:54 | legodude | othere than resistors, leds, and some switches, rat shack is basically useless |
| 03:17:49 | MonMotha | these days yes they are |
| 03:17:56 | MonMotha | they've turned themselves into a mini circuit city |
| 03:18:09 | legodude | ja |
| 03:18:11 | MonMotha | they can still "special order" just about anything, but it will cost you big $$$ and time |
| 03:18:19 | MonMotha | and of course it's cheaper to go to a real place where you don't have to pay shipping |
| 03:18:31 | legodude | but we don't have any |
| 03:18:36 | legodude | so I have to ship everything in |
| 03:24:33 | warewolf | hrm. |
| 03:24:42 | warewolf | inferno doesn't seem to be working quite right. |
| 03:24:51 | warewolf | I'm trying to run the rdp debugger |
| 03:25:30 | warewolf | it gets to the point where it says <sa11_setbps 57600><bps=57600> and then stops |
| 03:25:58 | warewolf | oh wait, the serial on this machine is all screwy |
| 03:26:10 | warewolf | it loses characters at high speed |
| 03:26:14 | warewolf | uses a different machine |
| 04:07:14 | jacques | good idea |
| 04:24:15 | warewolf | hrm. |
| 04:24:31 | warewolf | the upgrade.html how-to in /download/inferno says to use "all_1999.gz" |
| 04:24:54 | warewolf | I'm assuming the all2.3-010122.gz is what I'm supposed to use instead, since that file isn't there. |
| 05:11:53 | switchcat | yum |
| 07:08:39 | warewolf | bzflag- good evening, or morning, which ever the case may be |
| 07:11:31 | switchcat | try "greetings" it's generic and non-time specific. :) |
| 07:12:35 | Nermal | hey BZFlag |
| 07:18:55 | warewolf | my tuxscreen doesn't power off the displace anymore after putting inferno on it |
| 07:19:02 | warewolf | er |
| 07:19:03 | warewolf | display |
| 07:19:06 | warewolf | sorry, I'm tired |
| 07:48:43 | Nermal | wonders if BZFlag ever sleep |
| 07:48:47 | Nermal | speaks even |
| 07:50:53 | switchcat | greetings |
| 09:18:04 | scanline | Arrrghhh.... |
| 09:18:15 | scanline | just fried some chips, by accidentally using +12v instead of +5v |
| 09:42:03 | warewolf | "whoopsie" |
| 09:42:22 | warewolf | whelp, I'm glad to say that I've managed to get my pcmcia ethernet card working in the tuxscreen. |
| 09:42:46 | warewolf | along with dropping to a shell from the standard inferno UI, aswell as forcing a shell on the console from sboot. |
| 09:42:55 | warewolf | this is going to be much fun. |
| 10:40:06 | warewolf | ? (192.168.0.50) at 01:00:1D:01:5D:72 [ether] on eth0 |
| 10:40:15 | warewolf | ok, so it doesn't respond to pings in inferno. |
| 10:40:20 | warewolf | shrugs |
| 12:25:41 | legodude | good morning ESTers and hello everybody else |
| 13:20:10 | cosmic_work | is back (gone 15:39:16) |
| 13:50:45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: good morning to you |
| 13:51:03 | CosmicPenguin | tries to wake up after a long night of celebrating the birth of Utah |
| 13:51:18 | file | returns from getting his hair cut |
| 13:56:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:56:27 | CosmicPenguin | Do you guys know how hard it is to buy an old fashioned CD-ROM these days? |
| 13:56:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i didn't get anything done last night either |
| 13:56:35 | file | I'm still upset over USPS |
| 13:56:44 | CosmicPenguin | file: damn boars |
| 13:57:04 | file | CosmicPenguin : have you heard what they said? |
| 13:57:19 | CosmicPenguin | file: about the batteries? Yeah, I heard |
| 13:57:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, i'm never going to live that one down |
| 13:57:27 | file | CosmicPenguin : I wanted airmail! |
| 13:57:53 | legodude | CosmicPenguin: howso? |
| 13:57:54 | CosmicPenguin | file: Welcome to any day past 9/11/01 - its a whole new paradigm |
| 13:58:17 | file | CosmicPenguin : I've heard conflicting reports, will it arrive in 2 weeks... or 6 days... |
| 13:58:35 | file | CosmicPenguin : sooner or later... |
| 13:59:07 | CosmicPenguin | file: A year from now a package is going to arrive at your door with stickers all over it ala Loony Tunes |
| 13:59:21 | file | CosmicPenguin: give me a serious answer! :p |
| 13:59:23 | CosmicPenguin | Stickers from all over the world |
| 13:59:44 | legodude | didn't you get tracking numbers? |
| 13:59:53 | CosmicPenguin | "Greetings from Morroco" and "Somebody in Ireland loves you!" |
| 13:59:53 | file | legodude: you don't get that with USPS |
| 14:00:01 | legodude | you can I tihnk file |
| 14:00:12 | legodude | usps generally sucks |
| 14:00:12 | file | legodude: afraid not, this is US to Canada |
| 14:00:25 | legodude | hrm |
| 14:00:55 | file | legodude: I'd just like a general time... |
| 14:01:09 | legodude | you shoulda used ups or fedex |
| 14:01:15 | legodude | I sent something to england |
| 14:01:23 | legodude | should have taken 7-10days |
| 14:01:25 | legodude | took like 3weeks |
| 14:01:28 | file | legodude: oh no, that would have cost about 3 times as much |
| 14:01:31 | legodude | and usps was no help |
| 14:01:48 | legodude | couldn't have costed that much |
| 14:01:57 | file | it cost me $25 USD to send my laptop |
| 14:02:02 | legodude | I sent a loaded 2u rackmount box to canada via UPS for like $50 |
| 14:02:05 | file | $28 including customs |
| 14:02:40 | file | with UPS it would have costed me the cost of shipping, $22.75, then taxes, plus an extra 4 dollars, then an extra 2 dollars |
| 14:02:42 | legodude | were you sending it to the boonies of canada? |
| 14:02:50 | file | legodude: no... |
| 14:03:08 | legodude | strange that it cost so much then |
| 14:03:31 | legodude | problem is that usps won't guarantee that it will even reach it's destination internationally |
| 14:03:35 | file | legodude: I just shipped something with UPS a few weeks ago, it ended up costing mucho grande for a 2 pound package |
| 14:03:56 | file | legodude: I've never had problems with airmail... I just got something Monday |
| 14:04:03 | file | it was sent Tuesday, came Monday |
| 14:04:10 | legodude | I've never had problems either, just things take a long time |
| 14:04:26 | file | 4 days for that :) and it cost me $7 |
| 14:04:26 | legodude | and they won't guarantee stuff |
| 14:04:46 | file | I'd rather pay $7 then $25 with UPS |
| 14:04:53 | legodude | if I don't mind the item getting lost, I'll send via usps |
| 14:05:03 | file | cause $25 is $50 to me |
| 14:05:16 | legodude | you in canada? |
| 14:05:18 | file | yes |
| 14:05:20 | legodude | ahso |
| 14:05:23 | legodude | whereabouts? |
| 14:05:28 | file | New Brunswick |
| 14:05:32 | file | doesn't have that much money |
| 14:05:36 | legodude | dunno it |
| 14:05:41 | file | the maritimes |
| 14:05:55 | legodude | well, I have the luxury of passing my shipping costs onto my buyers |
| 14:06:02 | file | was a buyer |
| 14:06:26 | file | USPS was smart, they took off the transit times on their site |
| 14:06:36 | legodude | haha |
| 14:10:47 | legodude | hates 3com with a passion |
| 14:11:06 | file | I concur. |
| 14:15:29 | legodude | 3com 2500 is biggest POS I've ever seen |
| 14:15:43 | legodude | but it's the only decently cheap switch with FDDI and fast ethernet |
| 14:15:54 | legodude | for no good reason it mangles dhcp and nfs packets |
| 14:19:28 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: what do you mean by decently cheap? |
| 14:19:40 | CosmicPenguin | recommends: http://www.enterasys.com/products/items/2H252-25R/ |
| 14:20:41 | legodude | I mean under $100 |
| 14:20:49 | legodude | not $20k like cisco |
| 14:21:06 | legodude | looks very nice |
| 14:21:12 | legodude | but probably expensive as balls |
| 14:21:24 | legodude | this is for home use |
| 14:23:05 | legodude | so if I can't ebay it... |
| 14:26:22 | legodude | it wasn't a problem till now really |
| 14:26:31 | legodude | most everything important is on fddi |
| 14:26:42 | legodude | but my tuxscreen, i-opener, and x-term are all on ethernet |
| 14:28:32 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: the only reason I recommend it is because I was one of the developers for the FDDI card for that switch... :) |
| 14:28:47 | CosmicPenguin | still has nightmares about FDDI |
| 14:29:37 | CosmicPenguin | I wake up in the middle of the night in a cold sweat screaming "The token! The token!" |
| 14:30:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha! |
| 14:41:39 | legodude | hahah |
| 14:41:40 | legodude | nice |
| 14:41:49 | legodude | so you have connections and can get me one cheap? :P |
| 14:41:59 | legodude | loves fddi |
| 14:42:10 | file | Beta. Software undergoes beta testing shortly before it's released. Beta is Latin for 'still doesn't work. |
| 14:42:59 | legodude | just got ncdware |
| 14:43:00 | legodude | w00t |
| 14:43:02 | legodude | dances |
| 14:43:21 | file | disco dances |
| 14:43:28 | legodude | ballet |
| 14:43:34 | legodude | gotta get your intellectual on |
| 14:44:46 | legodude | goes to play with his new toys |
| 15:05:03 | CosmicPenguin | legodude: sorry - I burned those bridges a while ago.... |
| 15:05:39 | legodude | aw |
| 15:05:47 | legodude | I'll make do I guess |
| 15:05:56 | legodude | :) |
| 15:06:31 | legodude | but you should have known that one day you'd meet somebody on irc who wanted one of those switches for cheap |
| 15:13:55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, you mentioned you were doing an XML parser for scanline |
| 15:14:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: is specifically for use with picogui? |
| 15:15:45 | file | yummy pizza... |
| 15:18:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no, for Mallum and matchbox |
| 15:18:50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but no, it will be for general use - its non validating, however |
| 15:19:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, ok, i remember now |
| 15:19:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: gpl? |
| 15:19:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm not into xml, but i did get asked about an xml parser for use on the zaurus |
| 15:20:15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: of course since i'm using x and matchbox, your stuff should work if its gpl |
| 15:22:06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah - its a ways away from being portable - but it should work |
| 15:22:28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: if only I could release the propriatary XML parser I wrote - that thing works well |
| 15:22:41 | CosmicPenguin | in fact /me is hacking the parser today for fun and profit |
| 18:25:41 | legodude | loves sed |
| 18:36:40 | CosmicPenguin | wb prpplague |
| 18:37:14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks, i walked away from my desk and came back to irc client that had been logged out |
| 18:50:58 | CosmicPenguin | directs much venom toward verisign |
| 18:55:15 | legodude | directs much venom towards ncd |
| 20:19:16 | Aelhaz | Anybody have a guess whether a LART jtag tongle is 5v tolerant? |
| 20:24:07 | prpplague | Aelhaz: hmm, don;t know, but if your asking if it can be used with a tuxscreen, there is a wiki page on its usage |
| 20:29:25 | Aelhaz | prpplague: oh, the regular tuxscreen jtag is a lart jtag |
| 20:29:41 | Aelhaz | prpplague: I've got a box I need to talk to w/ jtag, have a tuxscreen jtag dongle here |
| 20:29:46 | Aelhaz | the box in question runs 5v |
| 20:29:50 | Aelhaz | the tux is 3.3v |
| 20:29:51 | Aelhaz | iirc |
| 20:31:37 | Aelhaz | the buffer on it is a Ti sn74ach541dbr, which according to http://rocky.digikey.com/WebLib/Texas%20Instruments/Web%20data/SN74AHC541.pdf has an operating range from 2 to 5.5v |
| 20:31:43 | Aelhaz | so, I guess it will prolly work |
| 20:33:15 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: I think it should work. |
| 20:33:23 | prpplague | Aelhaz: IIRC, that should work |
| 20:33:51 | BZFlag | wonders how prpplague can "recall" it working in the future. ;-) |
| 20:34:13 | Aelhaz | cool . . |
| 20:34:50 | prpplague | BZFlag: just that i've heard of other ppl using the lart dogle with a 5v jtag |
| 20:35:12 | prpplague | BZFlag: seems like erikm mentioned that too me a few weeks ago |
| 20:37:57 | BZFlag | ah, that does explain it. ;-) |
| 20:38:22 | Nermal | lo BZFlag , you get my order ok ? |
| 20:38:28 | Nermal | :) |
| 20:38:39 | prpplague | BZFlag: hey, maybe you got an answer, any idea of an embedded app for network diagnostics? |
| 20:39:17 | BZFlag | tcpdump? ;-) |
| 20:39:18 | Aelhaz | hmm, the lart jtag doesn't have nTRST, i have no idea if that's going to cause a problem |
| 20:39:53 | BZFlag | Aelhaz: on the tux, the cable loops the nTRST from the 3.3v feed. |
| 20:40:17 | prpplague | BZFlag: hmm, think i could identify duplicated ip addresses with tcpdump? |
| 20:40:26 | BZFlag | I think nTRST is just wired high on the lart, but I've never actually seen one. |
| 20:40:50 | BZFlag | prpplague: provided they talk, sure. but you'd have to parse a lot of data. |
| 20:40:51 | Aelhaz | yeah, the tudelft site says something about that |
| 20:41:14 | Aelhaz | I'm decoding poorly written info on the other box, I just have limited knowledge of what I'm doing |
| 20:41:52 | Aelhaz | unnecissarily, but successfully, soldered a 30ga wire to pin 11 of a tsop flash chip yesterday |
| 20:41:57 | Nermal | sighs |
| 20:41:59 | Aelhaz | (oughta be more careful) |
| 20:42:14 | Nermal | hopes he hasn't just sent $140 into the ether |
| 20:44:39 | Aelhaz | anybody recommend a utah electronics supplier other than central utah? i need a part they don't carry |
| 20:45:04 | Aelhaz | and I'm not interested in paying s&h to the likes of digikey, mouser, newark, etc |
| 20:46:07 | prpplague | Aelhaz: joe bob's electronics,taxidermy, and beauty supply |
| 20:47:21 | Aelhaz | prpplague: that's in toelle, right? :) |
| 21:07:47 | Aelhaz | I guess I'll hook it up w/o anything hooked up to nRST or nTRST, and if that doesn't work, I'll put a resistor between them |
| 21:08:09 | CosmicPenguin | Aelhaz: poor prpplague isn't from around here, so that wasn't funny to him..... |
| 21:08:14 | CosmicPenguin | I laughed my ass off though... :) |
| 21:08:37 | Aelhaz | :) |
| 21:09:46 | Russ|werk | what was funny? |
| 21:20:50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i laughed, i assume it went along with my joke....... |
| 21:22:08 | scanline | hi folks |
| 21:22:18 | prpplague | scanline: howdy dude |
| 21:22:38 | scanline | has a strange urge to watch Toy Story every time prpplague says "howdy" ;) |
| 21:24:59 | prpplague | scanline: theres a snake in my boots! |
| 21:25:10 | scanline | :D |
| 21:25:13 | prpplague | scanline: someones posioned the water hole! |
| 21:25:23 | scanline | wonders who's pulling prpplague's string |
| 21:28:31 | file | twitches |
| 21:29:39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague has been working too much - too bad he didn't live in Utah, he would have had a vacation yesterday |
| 21:29:47 | prpplague | scanline: the cute girl who wears short skirts and cleans up all the small screws that are droped in the office |
| 21:30:04 | scanline | hehe |
| 21:31:39 | file | got his hair cut today |
| 21:32:40 | scanline | uh oh.. now the barber shop scientists can clone file! |
| 21:32:54 | warewolf | damn. |
| 21:33:25 | warewolf | I just had to glob a buttload of hot glue on the edge of the pcmcia connector where the wires come out for the ehtnernet for my tuxscreen. |
| 21:33:28 | prpplague | file: whats special about using a razor to shave your head? |
| 21:33:45 | warewolf | now I can't get the wires to bend upwards and reach the back of the tuxscreen :/ |
| 21:34:21 | scanline | warewolf: wait.. you're not trying to build the original 5v mod are you? |
| 21:34:27 | file | prpplague : dunno |
| 21:34:37 | file | prpplague : probably smoother |
| 21:34:56 | warewolf | scanline- no, just 1 wire mod + removed resistor |
| 21:35:06 | warewolf | scanline- very neat, and tidy, if you ask me. |
| 21:35:15 | scanline | warewolf: hmm. so why do you need to modify the PCMCIA socket? |
| 21:35:28 | warewolf | scanline- opposite end of the card |
| 21:35:34 | warewolf | scanline- where the ethernet dongle comes out |
| 21:35:35 | scanline | oh, ok |
| 21:35:50 | file | scanline: do you think the store here would let me try an 802.11b pcmcia card? |
| 21:35:58 | scanline | I had so much trouble with the dongle on my old laptop that I got a Netgear FA411 for my tux :) |
| 21:36:13 | warewolf | scanline- yeah, this card I ressurected with a soldering iron. |
| 21:36:20 | CosmicPenguin | oohs and ahhs the cool alpha blending on the STB |
| 21:36:27 | warewolf | scanline- I removed the dongle adapter dojiggy and soldered the wires directly to the pcmcia PCB. |
| 21:36:33 | warewolf | scanline- god was that a bitch and a half. |
| 21:36:46 | scanline | yikes |
| 21:37:08 | warewolf | but, now all of that is under hot glue, so it ain't goin nowhere. |
| 21:37:18 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: what? alpha blending? where? |
| 21:37:57 | CosmicPenguin | on my STB - One of the cooler features of the Geode is the builtin alpha blending engine |
| 21:38:04 | file | is happy |
| 21:38:35 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: And you're the lucky one writing drivers for it? |
| 21:38:39 | CosmicPenguin | We have RTSP working, so I can pop up a control bar and stop / start / rewind / fast forward a stream at will |
| 21:41:16 | CosmicPenguin | anway, it is time to hit the bricks |
| 21:41:29 | cosmic_work | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
| 21:41:58 | legodude | cosmic_work: stb? |
| 21:42:16 | legodude | what's a STB? |
| 21:42:27 | file | weasel? |
| 21:42:33 | scanline | set-top box |
| 21:42:39 | legodude | ahso |
| 21:42:43 | file | where? |
| 21:42:47 | legodude | there |
| 21:42:50 | file | == confused |
| 21:42:51 | scanline | file: on your face |
| 21:42:51 | legodude | points |
| 21:43:03 | file | scanline: who's your? |
| 21:43:28 | legodude | pants |
| 21:43:29 | legodude | obviously |
| 21:43:41 | file | are you sure? |
| 21:43:45 | legodude | ja |
| 21:43:48 | file | ok |
| 21:50:52 | legodude | ping |
| 21:51:13 | legodude | pong |
| 21:53:12 | legodude | es begann zu regnet |
| 21:53:16 | legodude | regnen |
| 21:53:36 | legodude | decides to do something more constructive |
| 22:13:38 | CosmicPenguin | Anyone here using AT&T broadband? |
| 22:18:15 | jacques | not i |
| 22:18:52 | CosmicPenguin | nobody huh? |
| 22:20:14 | CosmicPenguin | has no idea what the tech put down as my e-mail address |
| 22:29:28 | CosmicPenguin | ok - I got it |
| 22:29:50 | CosmicPenguin | mutters something about stupid at&t |
| 22:29:54 | CosmicPenguin | is away: dinner |
| 22:49:57 | legodude | hates network audio with a passion |
| 23:21:57 | scanline | is away: Wonderful lithium ion power to undermine the MPAA's authority on my mind |
| 23:34:27 | apathygood | hello |
