| 02:26:11 | warewolf | nutz. |
| 02:26:20 | warewolf | my tuxscreen doesn't hear the phone line anymore. |
| 02:26:23 | warewolf | no dialtone or anything. |
| 05:07:48 | warewolf | hey bz |
| 05:08:07 | warewolf | any idea if the sw that comes on the tuxscreen supports any pcmcia devices? |
| 05:15:00 | BZFlag | warewolf: inferno can, but afaik the included version does not. |
| 05:15:45 | BZFlag | someone on this list found that there might be some support for "SunDisk" cf storage cards in the included version of sboot. |
| 05:17:32 | warewolf | I've got a 160g drive |
| 05:17:34 | warewolf | er |
| 05:17:42 | warewolf | misfire |
| 05:17:51 | warewolf | bz- ok I'll put inferno on |
| 05:19:16 | BZFlag | 160g in a tux, wow. ;-) |
| 05:19:22 | warewolf | no, in a tivo ;) |
| 05:19:26 | BZFlag | heh |
| 05:19:36 | BZFlag | connection trouble? |
| 05:19:51 | warewolf | grr. |
| 05:19:55 | warewolf | I'm hiting some key in bitchx that makes it reconnect to the server |
| 05:19:58 | BZFlag | connection trouble? |
| 05:20:06 | BZFlag | ah |
| 05:20:09 | warewolf | no, laptop keyboard truble |
| 10:04:34 | Nermal | :D |
| 10:04:43 | Nermal | hey Tangent.. .I've ordered one.... :| |
| 10:11:52 | Tangent | Nermal: Well done :) |
| 10:12:01 | Tangent | Nermal: About time too |
| 10:12:21 | Nermal | :) |
| 10:12:38 | Nermal | going to use it as a firewall / router / house shopping cart system (along with tesco direct ) :D |
| 10:12:52 | Nermal | broadband being installed as I type this |
| 10:13:44 | Tangent | Nermal: You getting fixed IPs with your broadband? |
| 10:15:43 | Nermal | uhh.. dun think so |
| 10:15:46 | Nermal | well.. yah... ish |
| 10:15:56 | Nermal | its dhcp but mapped onto the mac address of the card iirc |
| 10:16:00 | Tangent | Nermal: Are you with OpenWoe ? |
| 10:16:02 | Nermal | so you get the same addy each time |
| 10:16:22 | Nermal | btw.. is the linux installation process hard to do with a tuxscreen ? |
| 10:16:23 | Nermal | who |
| 10:16:27 | Nermal | I'm with ntl |
| 10:16:29 | Tangent | BT OpenWoe |
| 10:16:40 | Nermal | shields his eyes |
| 10:16:54 | Tangent | Nermal: Installation is easy... and hard.... |
| 10:17:01 | Nermal | ntl cable modem has rj4 port on the back with ntl :) |
| 10:17:06 | Tangent | Nermal: If you use the 0.4 images from the download directory, it's easy |
| 10:17:07 | Nermal | rj45 even |
| 10:17:11 | Nermal | not 0.6 ? |
| 10:17:23 | Tangent | Nermal: If you use 0.5, 0.6 or the buildroot-tux, you'll hit problems |
| 10:17:30 | Nermal | btw.. what did you do for a power supply |
| 10:17:32 | Nermal | what problems ? |
| 10:17:33 | Tangent | or at least... I've been hitting problems |
| 10:17:36 | Nermal | :( |
| 10:17:47 | Tangent | Nermal: I got a 240->110V converter brick from Maplin |
| 10:17:51 | Nermal | £? |
| 10:17:59 | Tangent | Nermal: £17 I think |
| 10:18:04 | Nermal | not too bad |
| 10:18:18 | Nermal | hmm.. so whats been happening with 0.6 ? |
| 10:18:37 | Nermal | and how much did customs charge you ? :) |
| 10:19:24 | Tangent | 17.5% of the order value |
| 10:19:37 | Nermal | bastards |
| 10:19:44 | Tangent | I got two tux.... shipping was $68... and then customs added 17.5% to the whole lot |
| 10:20:01 | Nermal | hmm |
| 10:20:17 | Nermal | soo. .whats are the feature differences between 0.4 and 0.6 ? |
| 10:21:21 | Tangent | Nermal: 0.4 used the old touchscreen driver... before the 'kernel is not a shitbucket of r fixing everyone's problems' arguments that meant they wouldn't accept the touchscreen driver in kernel-land anymore |
| 10:21:51 | Tangent | I can't remember what problem I had with 0.5... probable no touchscreen driver |
| 10:22:11 | Tangent | and 0.6 worked fine... and gave me X and a pointer... but no nfs support and modprobe was broken |
| 10:22:36 | Tangent | buildroot-tux fails to build at the moment too |
| 10:23:03 | Nermal | ew |
| 10:23:44 | Tangent | Maplin....... UP92A 240/120V S-D 30VA EU In Stock £19.99 |
| 10:24:08 | Nermal | that easier than building a new adaptor |
| 10:24:18 | Nermal | or shall I just use a shaver socket in the bathroom ? :) |
| 10:24:47 | Tangent | Oh.. wow... I've just found a button that makes the maplin website useable... |
| 10:24:58 | Tangent | Shaver socket should be OK as long as it does 110V too |
| 10:25:27 | Nermal | yah it does |
| 10:25:32 | Tangent | The Tux power brick does 3.3V output (and 5 and 12).... it's really hard to find replacement bricks that do 3.3V |
| 10:25:37 | Nermal | Tangent: which.. the "having menu trouble" button ? |
| 10:26:04 | Nermal | can I run X with 0.4 ? |
| 10:26:07 | Nermal | via nfs |
| 10:26:38 | Tangent | Yep |
| 10:26:42 | Tangent | I ran intimate with 0.4 |
| 10:26:48 | Tangent | just pulled the disk out of the iPAQ |
| 10:26:56 | Nermal | hmmm |
| 10:27:06 | Nermal | yours running at 206 ? |
| 10:27:43 | Tangent | running at 206??? |
| 10:29:39 | Nermal | mhz |
| 10:30:37 | pram | hi, can anyone help me? I tried to flash the V0.6 blob and jffs on my tuxscreen, but i get a lot of errors like "unhandled page fault" or "Backtrace: frame pointer underflow" or "Kernel panic" and so on. These are at every reboot difference |
| 10:32:18 | pram | which images are known to work on the tuxscreen? |
| 10:33:10 | Nermal | 0.4 by the look of things |
| 10:34:20 | pram | what is the difference between the 2 kernels in 0.4 (tuxscreen-kernel and tuxscreen-kernel-blfix) |
| 10:34:43 | Nermal | blfix = backlight fix ? |
| 10:34:46 | Nermal | at a guess |
| 10:42:54 | Nermal | Tangent: does the blob image under 0.6 work ok ? |
| 10:43:04 | Nermal | blob-20020709 |
| 11:50:24 | Tangent | Nermal: Worked for me... |
| 11:50:42 | Tangent | Nermal: But there was a readme in the dir that said to update it or something... so I updated it anyhow |
| 11:51:03 | file | disco dances |
| 11:51:31 | scanline | sees a disco ball and smoke machines appear out of nowhere, like in "Airplane" |
| 11:51:41 | scanline | runs away |
| 11:51:45 | file | Shake your groove thang! |
| 11:51:56 | scanline | runs away terribly fast |
| 11:58:19 | scanline | is away: Zzz |
| 13:18:43 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 15:21:23) |
| 13:19:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:19:27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: good morning to you |
| 13:19:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: harvesting any organs today? |
| 13:43:58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: not yet, but the day just started |
| 14:18:25 | CosmicPenguin | I thought that a RC was just for bug fixes, but I guess the folks at FLTK didn't subscribe to the same theory |
| 14:18:36 | CosmicPenguin | they havea new RC out that has a ton of enhancements |
| 14:19:49 | Tux889 | hey all |
| 14:19:53 | Tux889 | it's me file at a friend's house |
| 14:21:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: RC for which version ? 2.0? |
| 14:21:39 | Tux889 | where is azmarith |
| 14:22:05 | Tux889 | bbl |
| 14:22:35 | prpplague | Tux889: sitting in a box next to my desk |
| 14:25:51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: 1.1.0 - the one we hate |
| 14:26:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, |
| 14:26:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya that one is just tooo wierd |
| 14:58:46 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 18 hours, 59 minutes and 17 seconds ago, saying: fontenot: perhaps. Or leave wchar disabled.... [Tue Jul 23 20:59:29 2002] |
| 14:58:46 | prpplague | ibot: seen andersee |
| 14:59:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you use tinylogin right? |
| 15:12:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: all the time |
| 15:13:06 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, do you have any of your tty's symlinked to another dir other than /dev? |
| 15:15:26 | prpplague | warning, about to paste......... |
| 15:15:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: look at this from tinylogin - |
| 15:15:42 | prpplague | else { |
| 15:15:42 | prpplague | if (!strncmp(tmp, "/dev/", 5)) { |
| 15:15:42 | prpplague | STRFCPY(tty, tmp + 5); |
| 15:15:42 | prpplague | } else |
| 15:15:43 | prpplague | STRFCPY(tty, "UNKNOWN"); |
| 15:15:44 | prpplague | } |
| 15:16:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm have your nodes linked or in another dir it will mark the tty as UNKNOWN |
| 15:27:44 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmm... thats interesting |
| 15:28:10 | CosmicPenguin | Is that in the code that checks the securetty? |
| 15:35:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its from the main function of "login" and is for identifing the tty for use with other apps such as the secure tty check |
| 15:35:52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yes! I've been looking for that bug for about 3 months now |
| 15:36:38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you are using standard glibc, right? |
| 15:36:46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 15:37:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if you log in a do a bb "tty" comand, what does it respond as? |
| 15:41:20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you think we need to add a define at the top for the device dir? |
| 15:41:20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: unless I disable securetty, it returns UNKNOWN |
| 15:41:41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my question is - why does it work with uclibc, and not with glibc? |
| 15:41:42 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: unknow in bb as well? |
| 15:42:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: propbably because symbolic links are being handled differently |
| 15:42:46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I have unknown unless I comment out #define TLG_FEATURE_SECURETTY in the makefile |
| 15:43:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: of bb or of tinylogin? |
| 15:43:12 | CosmicPenguin | tinylogin |
| 15:43:35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, but if you issue the bb tty command what does bb respond as? |
| 15:43:49 | CosmicPenguin | UNKOWN |
| 15:44:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmmm |
| 15:44:17 | CosmicPenguin | I assume because ttyname() is borked |
| 15:44:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you symlinking from /dev/ to another dir? |
| 15:44:33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep |
| 15:44:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: /tmp ? |
| 15:45:21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: one more question, what version off bb? |
| 15:45:43 | prpplague | s/off/of |
| 15:45:43 | CosmicPenguin | .60.2 |
| 15:45:45 | CosmicPenguin | I think |
| 15:46:03 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, the way around that bug is to disable SECURETTY, and you will not have that problem anymore |
| 15:46:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: after you disable the SECURETTY, do you still get "UNKNOW" as a response to the tty command? |
| 15:48:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, i'm on .60.3 of bb |
| 15:51:15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nope |
| 15:51:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, just checked .60.2 v. 60.3 , tty on .2 does respond as UNKOWN, but .3 responds with /tmp/tty1 even though its symlinked from /dev/tty1 |
| 15:52:14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'll look into it further, thanks for the feedback |
| 15:52:47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think i'm going to add a define to my Config.h on tinylogin to specify the device dir |
| 15:53:06 | CosmicPenguin | That sounds good to me |
| 15:57:12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm not sure, but it may be that ttyname() in uclibc returns the full path name, whereas ttyname() in glibc only returns the filename |
| 15:59:13 | CosmicPenguin | So a somewhat cleaner solution would be to ifdef that section |
| 16:03:00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i'll need to do some tests comparing the responses on several boxes, this is just a temp fix for me, maybe when andersee shows up we can ask a few questions of him |
| 16:05:14 | prpplague | http://www.swingline.com/b2c/ourproducts/ProductDetailStaples.jsp?coreProductID=7608&hierID=5501&rootHierID=14 |
| 16:14:06 | CosmicPenguin | uhhh.... |
| 16:14:16 | CosmicPenguin | is that your new product? |
| 16:14:45 | CosmicPenguin | "The latest technology in dynamic document collation" |
| 16:16:14 | kergoth`work | i want one of those |
| 16:16:20 | kergoth`work | I.. think you have my .. stapler |
| 16:38:26 | CosmicPenguin | speak of the devil |
| 16:38:48 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 16:39:01 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: for a few minutes yet anyways... |
| 16:50:44 | Russ | they stole my red stapler |
| 16:50:51 | prpplague | lol |
| 16:52:57 | prpplague | andersee: questions about tinylogin |
| 16:54:08 | prpplague | andersee: got a sec |
| 16:54:24 | Russ | anyone here in sfo? |
| 16:59:07 | andersee | prpplague: sure |
| 17:03:47 | Tux889 | disco dances around the room |
| 17:04:49 | prpplague | andersee: on tinylogin using glibc, if you have a /dev/tty1 symlinked to /tmp/tty1 it responds as an UNKOWN tty |
| 17:05:55 | prpplague | else { |
| 17:05:55 | prpplague | if (!strncmp(tmp, "/tmp/", 5)) { |
| 17:05:55 | prpplague | STRFCPY(tty, tmp + 5); |
| 17:05:55 | prpplague | } else |
| 17:05:55 | prpplague | STRFCPY(tty, "UNKNOWN"); |
| 17:05:56 | prpplague | } |
| 17:06:27 | prpplague | oops, thats was test, i had to change the /tmp/ from /dev/ |
| 17:09:00 | andersee | prpplague: perhaps you need an /etc/securetty entry? |
| 17:09:50 | prpplague | andersee: negative, i have the securetty turned off in the Config.h |
| 17:11:13 | Tux889 | sighs |
| 17:11:16 | Tux889 | these NIC's do not like me |
| 17:11:35 | andersee | prpplague: I suppose you could add in a call to realpath(3) first.... |
| 17:11:59 | prpplague | andersee: if i actually make the node in /dev/ i get no complaints, its only when i symlink |
| 17:12:54 | prpplague | andersee: the other issue is that when i do the bb tty command it reports the tty as /tmp/tty1 instead of /dev/tty1 |
| 17:13:34 | prpplague | andersee: these are little issues, i mean i can work around, i was just wondering if this was intentional |
| 17:14:08 | andersee | prpplague: nah. Feel free to fix it so it stops resolving things |
| 17:14:41 | prpplague | andersee: ok then i'll attach the issue |
| 17:14:48 | prpplague | s/attach/attack |
| 17:18:46 | BZFlag | prpplague: on the tux /dev is a symlink and that seemed to work fine. |
| 17:19:13 | prpplague | BZFlag: ya thats the issue, uclibc works correctly, glibc doesn't |
| 17:19:28 | BZFlag | having just the tty1 be a symlink means that fstat etc on the file might be seeing that it's a link and not testing the values on the target. |
| 17:19:54 | BZFlag | do you really need it to be a link? |
| 17:20:12 | prpplague | BZFlag: /dev is on a ro fs |
| 17:20:14 | BZFlag | wouldn't it be a better idea to symlink /dev someplace that's writable? |
| 17:20:59 | BZFlag | check the tux build. we symlink /dev to /var/dev which in turn is a link to /boot/var/dev |
| 17:21:15 | prpplague | BZFlag: ya i guess i could symlink the entire /dev to a rwfs, i'd just need to add the creation of all of nodes even ones that don't need rw access |
| 17:21:16 | BZFlag | then we mount ramfs on /var and copy /boot/var over there. |
| 17:21:50 | prpplague | BZFlag: i'm doing basically the same thing, but i'm only linking the devices that need rw access |
| 17:22:36 | BZFlag | I suspect the space savings is a wash, might be better to just do the whole directory. |
| 17:22:40 | andersee | prpplague: so the obvious solution is to use uClibc. ;-) |
| 17:22:46 | BZFlag | or that. ;-) |
| 17:23:30 | prpplague | andersee: lol, ya this is on a x86 box and i need to run x |
| 17:23:50 | prpplague | andersee: would take a little work to re-do everything |
| 17:24:08 | BZFlag | andersee: does ifconfig do ipv6 now or is there some other applet for ipv6 setup? |
| 17:24:29 | BZFlag | prpplague: tux runs x on uclibc. ;-) |
| 17:24:58 | prpplague | BZFlag: ya i know, its just a time issue, got to get something done by friday |
| 17:25:27 | BZFlag | then I'd suggest you rework /dev and be done with it. ;-) |
| 17:26:16 | prpplague | BZFlag: yep |
| 17:27:21 | andersee | BZFlag: I havn't forgotten your busybox patch, honest... |
| 17:27:27 | prpplague | ok, just did a test, looks like the default action of glibc is to return the full path when ttyname is called, where as uClibc returns the file that was referenced even if it is a symlink |
| 17:27:34 | andersee | BZFlag: BTW, I added killall -q for you yesterday |
| 17:28:02 | prpplague | andersee / BZFlag : thanks for the feedback! |
| 17:28:27 | andersee | prpplague: thats what you pay us so well for. ;) |
| 17:28:28 | BZFlag | andersee: sweet! thanx. |
| 17:28:34 | andersee | BZFlag: anything else? |
| 17:28:52 | BZFlag | hmm. there was one other thing I mentioned... |
| 17:29:00 | BZFlag | oh yeah. mount -t nfs |
| 17:29:31 | BZFlag | should list all nfs mounts. actually lists all mounts. |
| 17:29:32 | andersee | I saw you mention that, but didn't quite follow the problem |
| 17:29:42 | andersee | BZFlag: Ahhh |
| 17:30:02 | andersee | BZFlag: is that general to all 'mount -t foo' commands then? |
| 17:30:19 | BZFlag | hinds pcmcia scripts use "mount -t nfs" to get the list of nfs mounts. then ifuser etc to map them to interfaces and unmount them before ejecting the card. |
| 17:30:56 | BZFlag | yeah, mount -t <type> should list any <type> mounts only. |
| 17:32:05 | BZFlag | hinds script works fine if I add "| grep 'type nfs'" to the command line. |
| 17:32:16 | prpplague | andersee: lol, hey now, BZFlag knows i try to give back and show my appreciation when i can.... |
| 17:33:07 | BZFlag | andersee: yeah you missed the free food/beer cause you did not go to OLS. Imagine that staying home to help with the newborn. where _are_ your priorities. ;-) |
| 17:33:50 | andersee | I know, I know. I'm such a loser. ;) |
| 17:38:11 | andersee | BZFlag: k, sent an email to submit@bugs.bb.net so I won't forget |
| 17:38:29 | andersee | So it'll be getting fixed sometime |
| 17:51:46 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: any decision yet on LinuxWorld?? |
| 17:53:28 | prpplague | mallum: ! |
| 17:53:44 | mallum | hey :) |
| 17:53:46 | prpplague | mallum: matchbox questions..... |
| 17:53:57 | mallum | np shoot |
| 17:54:04 | mallum | have you read the docs though .... ? |
| 17:54:21 | prpplague | mallum: ya, i've read through docs |
| 17:54:36 | mallum | cool |
| 17:54:41 | mallum | just checking ;) |
| 17:55:02 | Tux889 | well that's annoying |
| 17:55:17 | Tux889 | USPS wouldn't let my laptop go onto airmail, and the battery had to be sent separately |
| 17:55:21 | prpplague | mallum: in a bunch of the .h file the last #endif has some text similiar to the function that the .h is for, this creates a ton of warnings, is there a reason for the text? |
| 17:55:59 | mallum | prpplague: sorry, I dont follow ? |
| 17:56:42 | prpplague | mallum: like the wm.h file has something like "#endif _DATA_OP_" as the last line |
| 17:57:03 | mallum | prpplague: I never get any warnings ? |
| 17:57:07 | prpplague | mallum: this cause gcc to complain about unexpected tokens |
| 17:57:23 | mallum | prpplague: are you using gcc 3.1 or something ? |
| 17:57:42 | prpplague | mallum: no 2.95.3 toolchain |
| 17:58:15 | mallum | prpplague: hmmm, I honestly never seen them warnings before |
| 17:58:50 | mallum | prpplague: all thats in the .h is #ifndef _WM_H |
| 17:58:59 | mallum | #define _WM_H |
| 17:59:04 | mallum | ...code... |
| 17:59:09 | prpplague | mallum: check the #endif |
| 17:59:12 | mallum | #endif |
| 17:59:45 | prpplague | mallum: hmm, maybe it wasn't wm.h, i know i had to do about 5 of the .h |
| 17:59:53 | mallum | prpplague: no its there |
| 18:00:06 | mallum | prpplague: its never given me warnings before - I'll remove em |
| 18:00:57 | prpplague | mallum: ok, not that it was a big thing, i just wanted to make sure it wasn't something i was doing wrong |
| 18:01:30 | mallum | prpplague: I dont know why I put them things there :( |
| 18:01:36 | mallum | prpplague: anyway there going |
| 18:03:19 | mallum | prpplague: there gone |
| 18:04:17 | prpplague | mallum: ok thanks, i'll update my cvs dir tonight, thanks |
| 18:04:33 | mallum | prpplague: cool |
| 18:26:04 | prpplague | mallum: the matchbox sure looks clean |
| 18:26:17 | prpplague | mallum: the matchbox code that is |
| 18:32:31 | mallum | prpplague: theres still abit of cludge in there |
| 18:32:37 | mallum | prpplague: especially wm.c |
| 18:32:52 | prpplague | mallum: yea buts its readable and understandable |
| 18:33:17 | mallum | prpplague: and mbtheme.c needs some sorting |
| 18:33:21 | mallum | prpplague: thanks :) |
| 18:35:41 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Did ya think I bailed on your XML stuff? :) |
| 18:35:50 | CosmicPenguin | I'm still working on it - I should have it very soon |
| 18:37:05 | mallum | cool :) |
| 18:37:24 | prpplague | mallum: CosmicPenguin is actually spending all his time at the nudie bar instead of working on the XML stuff...lol |
| 18:41:55 | CosmicPenguin | Like my boss, my girlfriend is having trouble figuring out why I am spending all my time doing work on open software |
| 18:42:29 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: open software = nudie bar ? |
| 18:49:48 | CosmicPenguin | lol - not right now.... |
| 19:34:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm wondering if i can convince our local nudie bar to put up a 802.11b net access..... |
| 19:34:45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that would kick ass |
| 19:42:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: or see ass? |
| 19:43:50 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that depends on how much beer is available |
| 19:44:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 19:45:09 | Tux889 | returns from trying... roller blading |
| 20:01:34 | Tux889 | prpplague: still there? |
| 20:01:57 | prpplague | Tux889: no i'm out to lunch |
| 20:02:13 | prpplague | Tux889: what can i do for ya? |
| 20:02:38 | Tux889 | prpplague: guess what USPS said for the shipping of my laptop :) |
| 20:03:46 | prpplague | Tux889: what? |
| 20:04:19 | Tux889 | prpplague: the battery had to be packaged away from the laptop, and it could only be sent ground |
| 20:06:19 | Tux889 | prpplague: sucks eh? |
| 20:07:42 | prpplague | naw, we have had to ship UPS batteries seperately for about 2 years now |
| 20:08:07 | Tux889 | but I mean... ground |
| 20:08:11 | Tux889 | how long would that take? |
| 20:11:02 | prpplague | ya, try shipping a UPS to barbados..... |
| 20:16:33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: don't you run out of ground before you get to barbados? |
| 20:16:34 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 20:16:44 | CosmicPenguin | has visions of a USPS truck running full tilt into the water |
| 20:16:57 | CosmicPenguin | "If I go real fast, I can make it!" |
| 20:18:29 | Russ|werk | if they can ship horses in a 747 |
| 20:18:34 | Russ|werk | they can ship batteries |
| 20:19:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, no they put it on a very slow UPS boar |
| 20:19:31 | prpplague | boar |
| 20:19:33 | prpplague | argh |
| 20:19:35 | prpplague | boat |
| 20:19:47 | kergoth | pictures a UPS boar |
| 20:19:58 | Russ|werk | is that why my packages always smell funny? |
| 20:20:15 | Russ|werk | and is there a such thing as a "very fast" boar |
| 20:21:41 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya but have to mark the package "UPS fast Boar Service" |
| 20:23:09 | CosmicPenguin | That sure explains alot |
| 20:23:46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey when you do embedded x what fonts do you include? |
| 20:24:26 | scanline | is back (gone 08:26:08) |
| 20:25:02 | prpplague | scanline: just in time for an interesting conversation regarding "fast boars" |
| 20:25:14 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:27:31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: right now I have all of the courier, helvetical and times fonts installed for a penalty of 1M |
| 20:27:50 | CosmicPenguin | Thats only because we are in development mode now - those will all go away in favor of TV friendly fonts |
| 20:28:01 | CosmicPenguin | which reminds me |
| 20:28:12 | CosmicPenguin | goes on the war path to management re TV fonts |
| 20:28:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: fun |
| 20:38:52 | scanline | waves to Tux889 |
| 20:39:10 | Tux889 | is waved at |
| 20:39:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey do you limit the fonts to 8859-1? |
| 20:43:11 | Russ|werk | prpplague: maybe I should make stickers for that |
| 20:43:14 | Russ|werk | with a boar logo |
| 20:45:08 | prpplague | Russ|werk: "when you absolutely,positively don't give a boars ass if it gets there!" |
| 20:53:59 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no - I'm not that internationally aware |
| 20:55:27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: your answer has confused me |
| 20:58:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we don't worry about any of the alphabets for 8859, so I don't worry about limiting to 8859 at this point |
| 20:58:06 | CosmicPenguin | however, thats a very irresponsible thing to do |
| 20:58:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ohh, i usually add the 8859-1 fonts, but not the any of the others |
| 20:59:16 | CosmicPenguin | if (ch >= 32 && ch <= 128) then print() otherwise ignore(); |
| 20:59:56 | CosmicPenguin | Though just wait till our first rollout in England when we need the other signs |
| 21:13:21 | CosmicPenguin | is bored |
| 21:16:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey what kinda fonts are in the encodings dir? |
| 21:19:30 | scanline | CosmicPenguin: Unicode makes things a lot simpler :) |
| 21:24:14 | CosmicPenguin | scanline: I know this... |
| 21:24:17 | CosmicPenguin | is lazy |
| 21:29:03 | CosmicPenguin | hopes his boss doesn't see that he is both bored and lazy |
| 21:35:07 | prpplague | heads home |
| 21:35:15 | prpplague | bbl dudes |
| 21:40:38 | CosmicPenguin | O |
| 21:40:44 | CosmicPenguin | I'm oot too... see you guys later |
| 21:40:52 | cosmic_work | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
| 23:13:22 | Nermal_BB | nn all |