| 00:02:19 | legodude | so the diode allows for both? |
| 00:02:20 | legodude | is there a page explaining the level of support for the dsp? |
| 00:02:27 | legodude | is anyone here familiar with shanip? |
| 00:05:47 | legodude | I ask because I'm mainly interested in the tuxscreen as a voip station |
| 00:05:54 | legodude | but I would also like to use it as a phone |
| 00:06:07 | jacques | legodude: there are some shanip gurus here - I guess they are just asleep right now |
| 00:06:18 | legodude | ahso |
| 00:06:20 | legodude | thanks |
| 00:06:33 | legodude | are they usually active at a certain time of the day? |
| 00:08:19 | jacques | not sure lately - I have not been around much, things have gotten a bit quiet here |
| 00:08:32 | legodude | hrm |
| 00:08:50 | legodude | maybe the mailing list would be a better place to ask? |
| 00:10:53 | prpplague | alot of the ppl have gotten laid off, or have large projects going right now |
| 00:11:02 | legodude | ouch |
| 00:11:24 | | I haven't seen 'ansersee', jacques |
| 00:11:24 | jacques | ibot: seen ansersee |
| 00:11:28 | | jacques: huh? |
| 00:11:28 | jacques | ibot: sene andersee |
| 00:11:35 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 3 days, 33 minutes and 28 seconds ago, saying: is away: I'm busy [Sat Jul 20 00:38:07 2002] |
| 00:11:35 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 00:11:38 | jacques | sigh |
| 00:11:54 | jacques | i nede to talk to him about the wide char stuff in uclibc |
| 00:12:21 | | prpplague: sorry... |
| 00:12:21 | prpplague | ibot: message CosmicPenguin: give me shout when you get back online |
| 00:12:50 | | prpplague: i'm not following you... |
| 00:12:50 | prpplague | ibot: /msg CosmicPenguin: give me a shout when you get back online |
| 00:12:53 | prpplague | doh |
| 00:13:12 | prpplague | anyone know the proper syntax for that? |
| 00:13:32 | legodude | sorry |
| 00:13:37 | legodude | I know it for other bots |
| 00:13:41 | legodude | ibot help |
| 00:13:46 | legodude | ibot: help |
| 00:14:01 | file | prpplague: peak-a-boo |
| 00:14:09 | file | thinks he's becoming a plague to prpplague |
| 00:14:09 | kergoth_ | ibot: message for prpplague: this is how |
| 00:14:46 | prpplague | kergoth_: ahh thanks, i've never gotten the hang of playing with the bots |
| 00:15:01 | kergoth_ | i only remember because it stores info i keep forgetting :-) |
| 00:16:22 | prpplague | ibot: message for CosmicPenguin: give me a shout when you get back online |
| 00:16:45 | BZFlag | legodude: yeah, the diode is for 3.3/5.0 switching. you can just hardwire to 5v if you like. |
| 00:17:15 | legodude | BZFlag: how exactly does the diode work? will it automatically supply 3.3v cards with 3.3v? |
| 00:17:26 | legodude | and 5v cards with 5v? |
| 00:18:03 | legodude | or is it for people who put switches into their tuxscreen? |
| 00:22:20 | BZFlag | legodude: it allows 3.3v to pass through if 5v is disconnected. |
| 00:22:37 | BZFlag | yeah, needs a switch |
| 00:23:40 | Bushel | does a flashing message/new call button mean my tuxscreen has a hardware error? |
| 00:23:57 | jacques | i think with the right switch you dont need a diose |
| 00:24:00 | jacques | diode |
| 00:24:27 | BZFlag | Bushel: no. linux or inferno? with inferno, check the msgs and callerid history and the light will go out. |
| 00:24:45 | warewolf | bzflag- got the tuxscreen today, thanks |
| 00:24:53 | legodude | got mine today too |
| 00:25:01 | legodude | very cool hardware |
| 00:25:07 | legodude | though the lcd is a bit disappointing |
| 00:25:22 | BZFlag | warewolf: cool. |
| 00:25:24 | legodude | does it look better in microwindows/tinyx with regard to the refresh rate? |
| 00:25:30 | Bushel | bzflag: inferno...it flashes every minute or so and wont let me enter anything on the touch pad |
| 00:26:01 | BZFlag | legodude: got interference? try opening it and reseating the lcd cables. |
| 00:26:11 | jacques | legodude: it does look better under linux - they made some strange choices of color in the inferno gui |
| 00:26:27 | warewolf | finds the wires he uses for psx modding |
| 00:26:31 | BZFlag | Bushel: huh? explain what happens exactly. starting with what is installed on the phone? |
| 00:28:25 | Bushel | the default os is installed with no modifications. The phone boots, asks to do a software download and the message/new call led flashes every minute... |
| 00:28:51 | BZFlag | Bushel: type ESC at the fading logo, then 2 |
| 00:29:16 | Bushel | ok... hang on one second |
| 00:32:03 | Bushel | it asks to enter safe mode...so i did |
| 00:32:22 | Bushel | and then enters the software download screen |
| 00:32:57 | legodude | jacques: I don't hink it's the colors, it is kind of flickery |
| 00:33:27 | legodude | think |
| 00:33:43 | legodude | BZFlag: do you know of any PC Cards which are 3.3v only? |
| 00:33:57 | legodude | in other words, is there a reason to not mod both slots to 5v? |
| 00:36:24 | root | how i can install and use opengl on debian? |
| 00:36:57 | jacques | opengl runs kinda slow on the tuxscreen |
| 00:39:14 | jacques | hmm |
| 00:40:12 | warewolf | is there a place on the wiki that lists all the hw mods? |
| 00:40:45 | jacques | warewolf: im afraid the wiki is a bit unorganized |
| 00:45:44 | warewolf | I noticed :) |
| 00:51:05 | legodude | wiki tends to get disorganized |
| 00:51:08 | legodude | hard to find stuff |
| 00:51:13 | legodude | kinda awful imho |
| 00:58:28 | warewolf | blinks |
| 00:58:33 | warewolf | can't you create a new account on the wiki? |
| 01:00:34 | warewolf | oh, it was picky about the usenrmae |
| 01:01:50 | cpenguin_home | evening folks |
| 01:02:18 | file | cpenguin_home: I think prpplague wanted to talk to you |
| 01:02:31 | file | <prpplague> ibot: message for CosmicPenguin: give me a shout when you get back online |
| 01:03:07 | cpenguin_home | file: thanks |
| 01:03:23 | file | yw |
| 01:05:56 | file | sleepy time |
| 01:05:59 | file | bbl |
| 01:09:05 | warewolf | has anyone tried to do back-to-back modems and fake the server that you can download software from? |
| 01:13:48 | cpenguin_home | ?? |
| 01:14:09 | warewolf | in the telephone app there's a button that reads "call server" |
| 01:22:39 | cpenguin_home | Uhhh.... 3? |
| 01:52:01 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: good answer, good answer |
| 02:19:10 | ][N-Flux | is away: Runnin from the Devil.... |
| 02:33:36 | cpenguin_home | time to watch the simpsons and go to bed |
| 03:11:43 | prpplague | andersee: evening |
| 03:12:14 | andersee | evening |
| 03:12:21 | andersee | How're things? |
| 03:13:06 | prpplague | andersee: not bad, new board in the works, and i'm working on getting a nice x build added to openzaurus |
| 03:13:33 | andersee | cool |
| 03:14:04 | prpplague | andersee: got my thin client rootfs upgraded from like bb 0.53 to 0.60 |
| 03:14:51 | prpplague | andersee: other than that, ssdd |
| 03:15:04 | andersee | heh |
| 03:15:33 | andersee | 0.50? wow. That was so long ago, I can't even remember when it was. |
| 03:16:38 | prpplague | andersee: ya that was back when the vi had a bunch of bugs |
| 03:17:12 | andersee | Oh yeah. I remember those... |
| 04:13:50 | prpplague | night folks |
| 08:45:20 | | TomW was last seen on #tuxscreen 20 days, 3 hours, 56 minutes and 26 seconds ago, saying: ah well, bedtime, later all. [Wed Jul 3 05:48:54 2002] |
| 08:45:20 | Sammy | ibot: seen TomW ? |
| 08:45:28 | Sammy | ... |
| 10:59:02 | Nermal | lo BZFlag |
| 12:38:33 | file | screams |
| 12:40:54 | | somebody said file was a happy Philips Nino/VTech Helio user |
| 12:40:54 | Nermal | file ? |
| 12:41:00 | Nermal | hmm |
| 12:42:07 | | okay, file. |
| 12:42:07 | file | ibot: file is also a happy IBM Thinkpad 560 user |
| 12:54:02 | file | pokes Nermal |
| 12:55:01 | Nermal | hello :) |
| 12:55:14 | Morn | I hit the wrong button :-( |
| 12:55:32 | file | My Thinkpad gets shipped out today or tomorrow |
| 12:55:40 | file | my money order arrived their fine :) only took 4 days too |
| 12:56:38 | Nermal | yay |
| 12:57:02 | file | be very happy :) I know I am |
| 12:57:18 | file | Morn: again? |
| 12:57:47 | Morn | yeah, I tried to be on 2 servers at the same time |
| 12:57:54 | Morn | and it logged me out of the first |
| 12:57:54 | file | ahhh |
| 12:58:40 | Morn | thinks she should just go back to bitchx |
| 12:58:50 | Morn | or ircii |
| 12:59:25 | prpplague | Morn: morn |
| 12:59:46 | Morn | hi prpplague |
| 12:59:48 | Morn | how goes? |
| 12:59:56 | prpplague | ssdd |
| 13:00:11 | Morn | I usually use ssdy |
| 13:00:39 | prpplague | Morn: ahh |
| 13:04:09 | file | did some research |
| 13:04:17 | file | my school has no rules regarding bringing a laptop |
| 13:04:42 | Morn | does a double take at MonMotha's info |
| 13:05:14 | file | somebody else 'round everyone else, watching your back like you can't relax your trying to be cool you look like a fool to me |
| 13:06:00 | prpplague | Morn: yes i noticed that too |
| 13:06:21 | file | tell me why'd you have to go and make things so complicated |
| 13:06:28 | file | I see the way your acting like your somebody else gets me frustrated |
| 13:06:40 | file | life's like this you fall and you crawl and you break and you take what you get and you turn it into |
| 13:06:44 | file | sings |
| 13:20:36 | Nermal | hmm.. how much stuff runs on the tuxscreen># |
| 13:20:40 | Nermal | does it run familiar linux ? |
| 13:20:54 | file | no it does not |
| 13:21:20 | CosmicPenguin | good morning |
| 13:21:45 | prpplague | Nermal: it does run familiar as a whole, however many app from familiar run on the tuxscreen |
| 13:22:04 | prpplague | Nermal: but just about any standard linux can be compiled for arm |
| 13:22:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: mornign |
| 13:22:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: another day, another $.50 ? |
| 13:29:25 | Nermal | how is pcmcia hardware support ? |
| 13:30:52 | MonMotha | Morn: what? |
| 13:31:17 | Morn | monmotha@2001:618:424:2:0:0:0:2 |
| 13:31:21 | MonMotha | oh, IPv6 |
| 13:31:27 | MonMotha | I haven't set up reverse DNS yet |
| 13:31:37 | Morn | ah |
| 13:31:58 | Morn | I didn't think IPv6 was in widespread use on the public net yet |
| 13:32:11 | MonMotha | partially because I don't have a DNS server, partially because I don't have a domain :) |
| 13:32:15 | MonMotha | it's not, I have a tunnel |
| 13:32:47 | MonMotha | high latency too, it's a tunnel to BT and I'm in theu S |
| 13:32:47 | MonMotha | er US |
| 13:36:27 | CosmicPenguin | Nothing like being an early adopter |
| 14:01:19 | MonMotha | great for VoIP too |
| 14:01:28 | MonMotha | just give your phone an IP and call it |
| 14:01:51 | MonMotha | seeing as how I have enough IPs to give every person in the world an address... :) |
| 14:02:02 | file | MonMotha: I'll take an IP! |
| 14:02:12 | file | :) |
| 14:02:14 | MonMotha | file: only one? |
| 14:02:24 | MonMotha | not 2^64? :) |
| 14:02:34 | file | I need only one :p |
| 14:02:43 | MonMotha | eh, one's easy :) |
| 14:02:53 | MonMotha | has 2^80 IP addresses |
| 14:03:05 | file | too bad I couldn't use it |
| 14:03:09 | MonMotha | (which is a trivial allocation to get) |
| 14:03:38 | CosmicPenguin | Isn't there enough room for every square inch of the earth to have 3 individual IPv6 addresses? |
| 14:03:52 | file | my normal shell is IPv6, it's fun |
| 14:05:30 | Nermal | anyone got an ide hdd working with this ? |
| 14:06:20 | file | Nermal: the Tuxscreen? yes |
| 14:06:27 | Nermal | oooh... url ? / info ? |
| 14:06:49 | file | it's in the Wiki |
| 14:06:52 | file | all in the Wiki |
| 14:26:29 | Nermal | ye gods! |
| 14:26:43 | Nermal | all I did was push the "send money" button.. and I've spent $140 |
| 14:27:12 | Nermal | how much ram / rom does the tuxscreen have ? |
| 14:27:38 | file | Nermal: it's flash |
| 14:27:55 | file | Nermal: it's all in the Wiki... |
| 14:28:50 | Nermal | ook |
| 14:28:53 | Nermal | :)) |
| 14:34:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: wb |
| 14:37:00 | Nermal | are there any pcbs / pcb layouts availible for the ide interface |
| 14:37:05 | Nermal | all I can find is a schematic |
| 14:37:27 | file | Nermal: dunno, only one person did it - I forget who |
| 14:37:35 | Nermal | hmmhmm |
| 14:37:43 | Nermal | nfs mounts look promising :) |
| 14:39:04 | prpplague | Nermal: you'd have to email TomW at the openhardware web site for detailed info on the ide interface |
| 14:39:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are we having fun yet? |
| 14:39:35 | file | thwaps himself |
| 14:47:45 | MonMotha | CosmicPenguin: I wouldn't doubt it (regarding the IP addresses of every square inch) |
| 14:48:00 | MonMotha | there are 2^128 separate addresses (128 bit address space) |
| 14:48:08 | MonMotha | of course, only 3 TLAs have been assigned so far |
| 15:38:28 | prpplague | andersee |
| 15:38:31 | prpplague | oops |
| 15:38:37 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 12 hours, 21 minutes and 25 seconds ago, saying: Oh yeah. I remember those... [Tue Jul 23 04:17:12 2002] |
| 15:38:37 | prpplague | ibot: seen andersee |
| 16:09:13 | file | hi mallum |
| 16:11:12 | mallum | ello file |
| 16:12:41 | prpplague | mallum: howsfy |
| 16:12:50 | prpplague | mallum: argh, howdy |
| 16:13:10 | prpplague | mallum: if thats not an indication of my morning i don't what is |
| 16:13:39 | prpplague | mallum: hey, i'm adding matchbox to the openzaurus buildroot tonight, any gotcha i need to know about? |
| 16:13:44 | mallum | heh ;) |
| 16:14:44 | mallum | prpplague: make sure you start it with mbstart ( see in packaging/ipkg ) , that'll launch the dock as well - apart from that all should be fine :) |
| 16:15:08 | prpplague | mallum: ok thanks |
| 16:15:57 | mallum | prpplague: any probs just give me a shout |
| 16:20:35 | mallum | prpplague: my cable modem just got upgraded to a meg !!! woohooo :)) |
| 16:31:38 | prpplague | andersee: ! |
| 16:32:06 | prpplague | andersee: hey, question, are there any plans to add any network diagnostics to bb? |
| 16:32:32 | prpplague | andersee: i know that kinda stuff is kinda big for embedded, but i thought i'd ask |
| 16:33:33 | andersee | prpplague: like netstat? |
| 16:33:40 | andersee | prpplague: or something else? |
| 16:35:58 | prpplague | andersee: well, i was thinking something that would identify duplicate ip addresses and identify the top protocols being transmited on the network |
| 16:37:01 | prpplague | andersee: maybe its pipedream to want that on an embedded system, but it would be nice |
| 16:37:15 | andersee | hey mjn3 |
| 16:37:24 | andersee | welcome |
| 16:37:24 | mjn3 | ok erik |
| 16:38:08 | andersee | prpplague: Yeah, thats probably a bit much for busybox... We have netstat. Much beyond that is gonna want a specialized app. |
| 16:38:31 | prpplague | andersee: ok, thought i'd ask anyway |
| 16:39:19 | andersee | sure, no problem |
| 17:07:16 | prpplague | ok ppl, if cisco comes and want you to buy their voip phones treat them just like drug dealers and "just say no" |
| 17:08:24 | file | ok |
| 17:09:48 | Russ|werk | why? overpriced? |
| 17:10:12 | file | looks at his room to try to find a place to put his lapop |
| 17:10:14 | file | er laptop |
| 17:10:27 | file | I just cleaned it, and I still don't have room |
| 17:12:43 | prpplague | Russ|werk: overprices, it runs on windows, and it is just plain crappy |
| 17:14:11 | Tangent | wonders if buildroot-tux will work today |
| 17:14:23 | Russ|werk | it runs on windows? |
| 17:14:31 | Russ|werk | doesn't cisco have their own os? |
| 17:14:53 | prpplague | Russ|werk: for the routers but for the voip gateway server is all windows 2000 |
| 17:15:15 | Russ|werk | wtf is that crap |
| 17:15:36 | Russ|werk | on a side note, I really wish I woulda bought a pair of those voip blasters |
| 17:16:37 | Russ|werk | going on ebay for > $50 a piece now |
| 17:16:55 | file | wishes Tim would say what he's going to sell next |
| 17:18:21 | prpplague | Russ|werk: our phone system has crash 4 times since friday, today our sysadmin has been on with cisco for almost 15 hours and been through 4 different time zones during the call |
| 17:18:48 | Russ|werk | prpplague: get some tuxscreen's with shanip mods in there |
| 17:18:50 | file | lol |
| 17:19:22 | file | prpplague: beware the evil gnomes! |
| 17:19:23 | prpplague | Russ|werk: actuallu we are planning replace the server with some banyon linux stuff later this year |
| 17:20:05 | Russ|werk | I like the babylon stuff |
| 17:20:37 | Tangent | Did anyone ever make shanip PCBs? |
| 17:21:35 | MonMotha | Tangent: ever get your tux talking to your ipaq? |
| 17:21:51 | Tangent | MonMotha: Via ethernet and serial.. yes :) |
| 17:22:02 | MonMotha | nice...you can actually do voice over serial? |
| 17:22:14 | Tangent | MonMotha: Oh.. you mean for VOIP |
| 17:22:19 | Tangent | MonMotha: no... didn't get that working |
| 17:22:21 | MonMotha | I guess it's 115kbps |
| 17:22:30 | MonMotha | oh, you just got em pinging each other :) |
| 17:22:35 | Tangent | MonMotha: I haven't actually managed to get buildroot-tux to build properly yet |
| 17:23:10 | file | groans |
| 17:23:14 | file | 100 farenheit, just great |
| 17:23:21 | file | and with the humidity it's probably an extra 15 |
| 17:23:27 | Tangent | wonders what that is in real numbers |
| 17:23:38 | MonMotha | we managed to lose about 10F in 30min :) |
| 17:23:46 | MonMotha | 100F ~45C? |
| 17:24:00 | file | MonMotha: more like 32C |
| 17:24:04 | MonMotha | hum... |
| 17:24:12 | | Tangent: (EGLC) 51-30N 000-30W; Conditions at; last updated: Conditions at; Dew Point: 59 F (15 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.83 in. Hg (1010 hPa); Relative Humidity: 77%; Sky conditions: partly cloudy; Temperature: 66 F (19 C); Visibility: greater than 7 mile(s); Wind: from the WSW (240 degrees) at 13 MPH (11 KT) |
| 17:24:12 | Tangent | ibot weather eglc |
| 17:24:14 | MonMotha | oh, sorry, forgot to account for the FP |
| 17:24:38 | MonMotha | unfortunately the US can't figure out how to do real units |
| 17:24:51 | | MonMotha: (KIND) 39-43-30N 086-16-55W 242M; Conditions at; last updated: Conditions at; Dew Point: 72.0 F (22.2 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30.12 in. Hg (1019 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.01 inches (0.5 hPa) higher than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 84%; Sky conditions: overcast; Temperature: 77.0 F (25.0 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the WNW (300 degrees) at 7 MPH (6 KT) |
| 17:24:51 | MonMotha | ibot weather kind |
| 17:24:52 | Russ|werk | Tangent: hadess has a cool perl script that will write to a .desktop file |
| 17:24:56 | Russ|werk | with the weather data |
| 17:24:56 | file | I really should have a shower... |
| 17:24:58 | Russ|werk | set the icon too |
| 17:25:03 | Tangent | 100F=42.5C |
| 17:25:10 | MonMotha | well, agrees with my applet at least |
| 17:25:14 | Tangent | That's _HOT_ |
| 17:25:16 | file | Tangent: no it isn't |
| 17:25:20 | Russ|werk | no it isnet' |
| 17:25:42 | Tangent | Russ|werk: It's not? What is it then? |
| 17:25:43 | file | looks |
| 17:25:43 | MonMotha | 100F isn't TOO bad.. |
| 17:25:45 | file | it's 37 farenheit |
| 17:25:49 | file | er 37 celsius |
| 17:25:52 | Russ|werk | http://www.hadess.net/files/shots/14-07-2002.1.jpg |
| 17:25:53 | file | that's without humidity |
| 17:25:57 | Tangent | OK.. that's not so hot |
| 17:26:00 | MonMotha | we were up to ~94 yesterday |
| 17:26:01 | Russ|werk | Tangent: 122F is pretty warm |
| 17:26:08 | MonMotha | cold front came through |
| 17:26:13 | file | with humidity it's more like 115 farenheit |
| 17:26:26 | Tangent | I need to get some humidity sensors |
| 17:26:41 | file | it's pretty bad... |
| 17:26:50 | file | I closed up some of the windows in my house and it seems to be working |
| 17:27:44 | file | our weather keeps fluctuating... rain, thunder, sunny |
| 17:27:45 | file | over and over |
| 17:27:56 | file | lightning... |
| 17:28:53 | Russ|werk | we call that monsoon here |
| 17:30:30 | file | if I faint, somebody poke me with a stick and check to see if my laptop arrived |
| 17:30:43 | Russ|werk | can we take your laptop too? |
| 17:31:18 | Tangent | sharpens some sticks ;) |
| 17:31:32 | file | :p |
| 17:31:42 | file | throws the headset amplifier in front of him at Russ |
| 17:31:46 | file | take this! |
| 17:32:00 | file | it's only worth $99.99 but take it anyway |
| 17:32:36 | file | I don't even have a headset - why do I have this? |
| 17:32:48 | prpplague | puts battaries in a cattle prod |
| 17:32:50 | Russ|werk | I don't know |
| 17:32:53 | Russ|werk | why do you have it? |
| 17:33:02 | Russ|werk | can you throw other valuable electronics at me too? |
| 17:33:18 | file | throws... a cordless phone at Russ |
| 17:33:27 | file | grabs the batteries from prpplague and sticks them in ibot |
| 17:33:33 | Russ|werk | wouldn't happen to have a rio500 or something like that, would you? |
| 17:33:43 | file | nope |
| 17:33:55 | file | throws turtle at Russ |
| 17:34:07 | file | Russ|werk: ever see turtle? |
| 17:34:18 | | file is nothing but a craven pile of boil-brained squirrel guts. |
| 17:34:18 | andersee | ibot: insult file |
| 17:34:18 | Russ|werk | I'll calling peta! |
| 17:34:45 | file | Russ|werk: http://navi.picogui.org/joshnet/pics/Turtle.jpg that's turtle :) |
| 17:35:21 | | gentoo is nothing but a contemptible coagulation of hasty-witted entrails. |
| 17:35:21 | Russ|werk | ibot: insult gentoo |
| 17:35:43 | Russ|werk | quite a contraption |
| 17:35:59 | file | it runs, for 15 minutes |
| 17:36:06 | file | $5 USD OBO! |
| 17:36:29 | file | may include a Targus Carrying Case |
| 17:36:30 | Russ|werk | what happens after 15 minutes? |
| 17:36:48 | file | Russ|werk: it overheats and freezes/crashes |
| 17:36:53 | Russ|werk | o |
| 17:37:04 | file | adding a fan might stop that |
| 17:37:13 | Russ|werk | arghhh....there is a marketer talking in the next room |
| 17:37:16 | Russ|werk | so annoying |
| 17:37:29 | prpplague | or you could work in a meat locker... |
| 17:37:29 | file | http://users.rcn.com/rudolph.pishnyuk/users.rcn.com/rudolph.pishnyuk/images/P7140032.JPG |
| 17:37:35 | file | and that's the headset amplifier |
| 17:37:39 | file | prpplague: ooh, smart |
| 17:38:02 | Russ|werk | 'you can't be profitable without making money' |
| 17:38:03 | Russ|werk | no shit |
| 17:38:04 | file | I accept Paypal, cash, and money orders! |
| 17:38:13 | file | smiles happily |
| 17:38:30 | prpplague | anyone ever see that /. post about the college kids that overclock a 485dx-33 to 400? |
| 17:38:39 | Russ|werk | with beer? |
| 17:38:52 | prpplague | Russ|werk: lol, no, in the beer cooler |
| 17:38:55 | file | nope |
| 17:39:07 | file | but I think turtle might be overclocked, a second to us is 3 seconds to it |
| 17:39:17 | Russ|werk | x86? |
| 17:39:32 | file | severe thunderstorm warning just issued |
| 17:39:46 | file | severe hail, extreme winds, and rain |
| 17:40:27 | Russ|werk | it was cool |
| 17:40:39 | Russ|werk | we had a thunderstorm roll through here last week and hit the airport |
| 17:41:00 | Russ|werk | a few planes, including a 757 got moved around (40 feet) |
| 17:41:06 | file | uh huh |
| 17:41:14 | Russ|werk | some big planes got messed up pretty bad |
| 17:41:36 | file | I dunno what will happen with our airport... |
| 17:41:38 | Russ|werk | and a few cars in economy parking got messed up, totalled (flying shipping containers) |
| 17:41:52 | file | uh huh |
| 17:42:39 | prpplague | http://www.abcsinc.com/images/compinfreezer4a.jpg |
| 17:42:40 | Russ|werk | I need earplugs |
| 17:42:46 | prpplague | http://www.abcsinc.com/images/compinfreezer5a.jpg |
| 17:42:49 | prpplague | http://www.abcsinc.com/images/compinfreezer6a.jpg |
| 17:44:39 | prpplague | oops that not 6 but 3 |
| 17:44:42 | prpplague | http://www.abcsinc.com/images/compinfreezer3a.jpg |
| 17:49:45 | file | I hate this bad connection |
| 17:50:52 | file | 92 incoming CRC errors |
| 17:50:58 | file | 96... |
| 17:52:32 | Russ|werk | its the great white north, eh? |
| 17:54:06 | file | looks outside |
| 17:54:06 | file | not white |
| 17:54:19 | file | Russ|werk: look for yourself, http://navi.picogui.org/joshnet/pics/Alero.jpg |
| 17:55:50 | prpplague | andersee: ahh, i finally remembered what i needed to ask, does bb have anything can turn the num locks on and off? |
| 17:58:02 | andersee | Hmm |
| 17:58:04 | Russ|werk | its a strange brew reference |
| 17:58:35 | andersee | prpplague: I suppose these is probably some escape sequence that'll do that |
| 17:59:09 | prpplague | andersee: the only app that i've found is the setterm, but it is huge and has a ton of libs |
| 18:02:45 | prpplague | andersee: sorry, not setterm, setleds |
| 18:03:13 | CosmicPenguin | I was this close to porting setterm to BB the othe day, but then it turned out that we didn't need it |
| 18:04:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what did you need setterm for? |
| 18:05:15 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we thought that the console was blanking incorrectly, but it turned out that X was to blame |
| 18:05:27 | CosmicPenguin | Its not good when you're watching TV, and all of a sudden, the screen saver turns on... :) |
| 18:06:12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 18:27:36 | file | wb mallum |
| 18:31:38 | mallum | file: and a damn fine dinner it was |
| 18:32:29 | file | mallum: food... want |
| 18:33:21 | file | mallocs all available memory in mallum's brain |
| 18:33:33 | prpplague | segfault |
| 18:34:28 | mallum | NULL |
| 18:36:00 | file | twitches |
| 18:37:24 | pram | hi |
| 18:39:32 | pram | when i reset my screen i get a crc error, but sometimes it works (from 10 times 1 time) so i think the file is flashed correctly |
| 18:50:23 | CosmicPenguin | has now rewritten the underlying render engine for the STB two times in the last two days |
| 19:02:09 | CosmicPenguin | loves sylpheed - but it can't do IMAP filtering |
| 19:54:35 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 56 minutes and 0 seconds ago, saying: prpplague: I suppose these is probably some escape sequence that'll do that [Tue Jul 23 18:58:35 2002] |
| 19:54:35 | fontenot | ibot: seen andersee |
| 19:55:20 | fontenot | andersee: hey, is there wide char stuff in uclibc now? I fixed the buildroot compiler paths for tinyx but now am having wchar conflicts |
| 19:56:21 | file | darn it |
| 19:57:28 | Xenoc | can anyone give me an estimate of how long it takes a tuxscreen running linux and tinyx to get into X, from the time power is applied, to the time it's ready to run X programs? |
| 19:58:58 | andersee | fontenot: yes, there is wchar support now. |
| 19:59:15 | fontenot | andersee: ah, so getting tinyx to compile will be more involved |
| 19:59:25 | file | damn this internet connection |
| 19:59:29 | andersee | fontenot: perhaps. Or leave wchar disabled.... |
| 19:59:39 | fontenot | andersee: I'll try to take a look at it tonight |
| 20:00:03 | fontenot | I would prefer to use the uclibc wchar stuff rather than the hacks |
| 20:04:08 | pram | hi, can anyone give me a hint, I'm trying to install linux on my tuxscreen, but I always get an crc-error after "Uncompressing Linux ...." |
| 20:06:02 | fontenot | pram: corrupt kernel image? |
| 20:07:06 | pram | md5sum seems to be ok, i've also tried different blobs/kernel from v0.4 - v0.6 diirectory |
| 20:09:20 | pram | is it also possible to flash a kernel image with the JTAG interface? |
| 20:09:20 | fontenot | hmm |
| 20:09:38 | fontenot | that I do not know |
| 20:10:42 | pram | or how does the xdownload work? minicom doesn't send anything if I say "send file" |
| 20:13:08 | Xenoc | does anyone know how long it takes to boot the tuxscreen into X? |
| 20:46:06 | pram | strange... |
| 20:46:44 | pram | now: sometimes it boots, but at the negt boot i get segfaults/kernel panic's and so on |
| 20:47:28 | pram | but it never poots correctly if the adittinal memory module is fitted in |
| 20:47:33 | pram | boots |
| 20:52:59 | BZFlag | andersee: bb ?: "mount -t nfs" is called from pcmcia services. should return only nfs mounts, but returns everything. |
| 20:53:15 | BZFlag | also pcmcia services uses "killall -q" which bb does not handle. |
| 20:53:32 | BZFlag | anyone working on either issue? |
| 20:54:44 | kergoth | BZFlag: i'm glad someone brought that up, i had to hack those scripts all to hell to play nicely. |
| 21:02:50 | Xenoc | so is anyone willing to answer a simple tuxscreen question? |
| 21:03:10 | Xenoc | if not, I'll just leave, and save myself the trouble asking again. |
| 21:10:58 | pram | ok, with 8 MB it's working sometimes (even X, started in about 20s) |
| 21:11:37 | pram | but i never got it started with 16 MB, maybe the memory timing is weong |
| 21:11:41 | pram | wrong |
| 21:11:59 | Xenoc | entire boot takes 20s? |
| 21:12:08 | Xenoc | from power-on to usable X? |
| 21:12:39 | pram | boot take ~10s then you must login and type startx |
| 21:12:59 | Xenoc | right, but I assume that could be made automatic? |
| 21:13:03 | pram | that takes about 10s again |
| 21:14:11 | Xenoc | ok, thanks very much. it'll suit my purpose perfectly. =) |
| 21:14:24 | CosmicPenguin | Stupid RPMFind is down (again) |
| 21:14:33 | CosmicPenguin | Its days like these that make me want to move to debian |
| 21:44:48 | CosmicPenguin | wb all - have a nicd trip? |
| 21:44:58 | CosmicPenguin | s/nicd/nice/ |
| 21:57:17 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Uh, oh.. the weasel got out again... |
