| 00:22:42 | scanline | is away: coding, coding... more coding... |
| 01:13:32 | scanline | is back (gone 00:50:49) |
| 02:20:18 | cpenguin_home | ok - here goes - I don't know if this damn CD writer is working yet |
| 02:22:15 | cpenguin_home | nope |
| 02:22:48 | cpenguin_home | gotta bail out |
| 03:17:30 | cpenguin_home | is rebooting for a new kernel v |
| 07:06:54 | CaCtus491 | anyone abouts? |
| 07:19:28 | Sammy | where is the tux ram extend side can I meet ? |
| 07:29:16 | BZFlag | Sammy: huh? You mean talking to TomW? He has extended ram on a few units. |
| 07:38:13 | Sammy | thanx BZflag |
| 07:38:31 | | TomW was last seen on #tuxscreen 15 days, 2 hours, 49 minutes and 37 seconds ago, saying: ah well, bedtime, later all. [Wed Jul 3 05:48:54 2002] |
| 07:38:31 | Sammy | ibot: seen TomW ? |
| 07:39:30 | Sammy | BZFlag: do you know that's the size ? |
| 07:51:26 | BZFlag | what's the size? |
| 07:52:01 | BZFlag | He upgraded some phone to 32M on board and then you can add a 32M sodimm as well for a total of 64M. That's as large any wnyone has taken them as far as I know. |
| 07:56:01 | Sammy | BZFlag : that's enough for me :) |
| 08:03:10 | Sammy | so 8 + 32 = 40 (wow) |
| 08:06:02 | BZFlag | no. |
| 08:06:11 | BZFlag | 8+32 does not work. |
| 08:06:23 | BZFlag | 32+8 might, and 32+32 does. |
| 08:06:46 | BZFlag | but 8+32 would need a new kernel decompressor or a hardware hack to reverse the banks. |
| 08:08:30 | Sammy | |o| |
| 08:09:35 | Sammy | does TomW have 16MB ram ? |
| 08:10:51 | Sammy | I think maybe I need soldering a ram on board ... |
| 08:53:24 | BZFlag | yes, TomW removed the ram on board, and soldered in new chips. |
| 11:59:01 | file | not a good day |
| 12:00:16 | file | pokes GPSFan |
| 12:00:44 | GPSFan | hi fule |
| 12:00:56 | GPSFan | hu... file |
| 12:01:01 | file | guess what! |
| 12:01:08 | GPSFan | ?? |
| 12:01:21 | file | I'm having a big thing of bad luck, well my family is |
| 12:01:31 | GPSFan | sorry... |
| 12:02:27 | file | it involves a nail in the tire of my mom's car, the fridge going kaput and the milk going sour, and the computer that I use for IRC'ing from (something burning, smoke coming out of it) |
| 12:02:50 | GPSFan | ;>( |
| 12:03:57 | file | now if the stuff coming to me/outgoing in the mail system gets lost, I'm going to be furious |
| 12:04:37 | file | hello prpplague |
| 12:04:44 | prpplague | file: argh |
| 12:04:57 | file | prpplague: your day isn't as bad as mine |
| 12:05:57 | prpplague | file: no, its just that i can't sneak in here, you way tooo quick |
| 12:06:54 | file | prpplague: ic |
| 12:07:01 | file | prpplague: I was telling GPSFan about my day |
| 12:07:38 | file | prpplague: be glad you didn't send the TCSX-1, with my luck it would have ended up in Australia |
| 12:09:00 | GPSFan | hi prpplague: |
| 12:09:05 | prpplague | GPSFan: morning |
| 12:09:33 | prpplague | needs to reload his ipaq and get matchbox running |
| 12:09:51 | file | takes the Ipaq and plays with it |
| 12:10:53 | GPSFan | prpplague: do you dual boot your ipaq? |
| 12:12:40 | prpplague | GPSFan: no, i've been wiblows free for 4 year on july 26 |
| 12:13:09 | GPSFan | ;>) what version bootloader do you use? |
| 12:14:03 | prpplague | GPSFan: hang on let me check |
| 12:14:07 | GPSFan | k |
| 12:14:44 | prpplague | 2.18.01 |
| 12:15:31 | file | threatens to blow up the channel if his mail doesn't arrive safe and sound |
| 12:17:48 | GPSFan | ok, I can't wait till this project I am working on is over so I can get rid of PPC 2002. With the newer dual boot capable bootloaders, sometimes when you reset the ipaq (when a program goes awry) it blows away the PPC2002 data, and restarts as if new. ;>( |
| 12:20:14 | prpplague | GPSFan: well i droped my ipaq at the final OLS party and one of my paritions seems to have crashed |
| 12:21:14 | GPSFan | oops, ;>P |
| 12:21:49 | prpplague | GPSFan: oops is right, fortunately all my beer ratings were backed up |
| 12:22:10 | file | well the fridge is set at Max and it seems to be going, not at Max though |
| 12:22:24 | GPSFan | and, you didn't drop your beer... |
| 12:22:34 | prpplague | heck no |
| 12:22:45 | file | finds a bottle of white wine |
| 12:22:47 | file | wine anyone?\ |
| 12:22:55 | prpplague | be damed the ipaq don't drop the beer |
| 12:23:14 | GPSFan | well if you had lost those ratings you would just have had to drink them all again... |
| 12:24:08 | prpplague | right |
| 12:43:26 | Fluxwerk | is away: on-site work |
| 12:44:04 | file | offers prpplague a chocolate bar |
| 12:44:09 | scanline | tries to turn TCP_NODELAY on in perl... |
| 12:45:26 | prpplague | file: no thanks, i'm full up on rolaids and coffee |
| 12:45:51 | file | prpplague: ic |
| 12:45:53 | file | scanline: good day |
| 12:45:59 | scanline | hi file |
| 12:48:29 | file | scanline: how goes your work? |
| 12:48:58 | scanline | Well... a friend of mine talked me into writing a perl client library for picogui |
| 12:49:06 | file | scanline: I know, probe. |
| 12:49:12 | scanline | He told you too? |
| 12:49:12 | scanline | hehe |
| 12:49:17 | file | you said lastnight |
| 12:49:20 | scanline | oh yeah.. |
| 12:49:23 | scanline | is forgetful |
| 12:49:30 | file | very |
| 12:49:46 | scanline | Anyway.. I decided to actually do it. It's pretty easy, but I'm hung up on turning on TCP_NODELAY |
| 12:49:53 | file | uh huh |
| 12:50:10 | file | scanline: locate hub. put hub in box. mail to file. |
| 12:50:30 | scanline | locates hub, and notices that it's flashing and seems to be connecting him to the internet |
| 12:50:43 | file | scanline: find unused hub. put hub in box. mail to file. |
| 12:50:58 | scanline | Error, unused hub not found |
| 12:51:11 | file | broaden search area. |
| 12:51:26 | scanline | :P |
| 12:51:56 | file | plays with scanline's CAT5 cables |
| 12:54:13 | file | ooh a router... |
| 12:54:15 | file | switches it off |
| 12:54:56 | file | prpplague: I've got a question. |
| 12:55:10 | prpplague | file: i've got no answer |
| 12:55:29 | file | prpplague: Does the company you work for keep old electronic equipment? |
| 12:55:54 | prpplague | file: we used to until we started this foundation thing |
| 12:56:08 | file | prpplague: foundation thing? |
| 12:56:48 | prpplague | file: basically we give the hardware to kids and orginations who work on open source projects |
| 12:57:00 | file | prpplague: ic |
| 12:57:20 | file | will be needing a hub... |
| 12:59:48 | scanline | aha |
| 12:59:49 | scanline | got it working |
| 13:14:38 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 13:14:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:15:00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hows the phone book app doing? |
| 13:17:08 | scanline | waves near CosmicPenguin |
| 13:25:00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: dead - like my tuxscreen |
| 13:25:11 | prpplague | doh |
| 13:25:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you still haven't JTAGed that sucker? |
| 13:25:35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I just haven't had much time lately |
| 13:26:32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i know all too well |
| 13:26:39 | CosmicPenguin | My recent fights with my computer have revolved around the fact that there is a serious bug with the VIA chipset and the ide-scsci emulation for my CDROM |
| 13:27:05 | CosmicPenguin | Plus, I promised Mallum an XML parser |
| 14:52:18 | sjhill | g'day prpplague |
| 14:52:25 | prpplague | sjhill: howdy |
| 14:52:37 | prpplague | sjhill: just person i was hoping would show up today |
| 14:52:57 | sjhill | what can i do for you? |
| 14:52:58 | prpplague | sjhill: hey your a mips guru..... |
| 14:53:21 | prpplague | sjhill: you ever done anything with the r3051? |
| 14:54:23 | sjhill | hmmm, don't think so...Toshiba part i believe, R3K A core with some integer multiply? |
| 14:54:43 | sjhill | s/multiply/mult&accum/ |
| 14:55:15 | prpplague | sjhill: IDT , ya R3k core |
| 14:55:44 | sjhill | the r3k stuff in the kernel should work just fine |
| 14:56:05 | sjhill | i can help with toolchain issues |
| 14:57:15 | prpplague | sjhill: i've run across a board that we might like to embedded linux on, is the r3k stuff something that is popular? |
| 14:57:53 | sjhill | prpplague: not so much anymore...everyone is going r4k based stuff because of 64-bit and higher speeds |
| 14:58:42 | prpplague | sjhill: ok thanks, i'll add that into the pros/cons table |
| 15:00:05 | sjhill | prpplague: np, another thing is that r3k support is (perhaps) rcving as much testing in recent tools as it should |
| 15:00:13 | sjhill | s/as/not as/ |
| 15:02:09 | prpplague | sjhill: ya i'd hate to spend alot of my dev time cleaning up old code |
| 15:02:40 | sjhill | myself and about 3 other people keep the r3k clean currently, so the kernel is probably just fine |
| 15:02:57 | prpplague | sjhill: cool |
| 15:23:33 | | TomW was last seen on #tuxscreen 15 days, 10 hours, 34 minutes and 39 seconds ago, saying: ah well, bedtime, later all. [Wed Jul 3 05:48:54 2002] |
| 15:23:33 | prpplague | ibot: seen TomW |
| 17:40:01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: are you going to linuxworld? |
| 17:41:53 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: darn tutin.... |
| 17:42:38 | CosmicPenguin | sez: Though I hail from a place lousy with cowboys, I can't spell tutin' right |
| 17:43:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've decided to boycott all idg functions |
| 17:44:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this jerk at idg basically told me to get with the rest of world and use m$ products |
| 17:44:12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no way- really ? |
| 17:44:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 17:44:32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: then just come to San Fran and hang out - drink some beer and stuff |
| 17:44:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got an email sent with outlook and with a xls attachment |
| 17:45:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i called to ask why they would do this? and he said that i needed to "get with the rest of the world and use m$ on my desktop" |
| 17:45:52 | CosmicPenguin | Too bad you didn't record that - that would be an instant classic on ./ |
| 17:45:57 | CosmicPenguin | or /. |
| 17:45:59 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 17:46:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: btw, try the "thirsty bear", its about 2 blocks from moscone |
| 17:46:13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya i know |
| 17:46:26 | CosmicPenguin | "Presenters of LinuxWorld say: Get with the rest of the world and use Microsoft" |
| 17:47:22 | file | prpplague: come in #picogui for a moment |
| 17:49:12 | prpplague | kergoth: hey, the portserverII, what os is running on that? |
| 17:52:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha, i just received an email from idg, i've been removed from their mailing list! |
| 18:04:18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats sad - I was hoping that we could have a tuxscreen party in sanfran, but I support your decision |
| 18:04:26 | kergoth | hey tim |
| 18:04:30 | prpplague | is smokin mad over idg |
| 18:04:37 | prpplague | BZFlag: howdy |
| 18:05:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: thanks |
| 18:15:20 | BZFlag | kergoth: 2.5 now, huh? |
| 18:15:40 | kergoth | BZFlag: :-) |
| 18:15:53 | BZFlag | got 2.4 working? |
| 18:15:58 | kergoth | BZFlag: i finally got off my ass and registered to have a bk tree on bkbits.. i had 8 independent different trees.. lol.. |
| 18:16:23 | kergoth | BZFlag: nah, i'm porting directly to 2.5 to get a feel for the direction things are heading, and the way things should be structured. then i'll backport. |
| 18:16:34 | kergoth | BZFlag: jeeze, did enough interfaces change? ;-) |
| 18:16:45 | BZFlag | you could include a rom driver for rootfs with cramfs there. then make the mtd-flash driver a module and adjust the maps so they do not include the cramfs block. |
| 18:16:57 | BZFlag | at least then you could see if it was reading. |
| 18:17:15 | kergoth | BZFlag: oh the mtd stuff works now. jffs2 works too, though i had to add rootfstype=jffs2 to cmdline |
| 18:17:43 | kergoth | BZFlag: my ucb1x00 init code for the tc35143 wasnt workinga t first, so it couldnt erase blocks lacking the Vpp.. but I think i got that nailed down too |
| 18:18:58 | kergoth | BZFlag: one of my first problems was, my altered sa1100fb driver was corrupting my serial output... didnt realize it, made debugging a bitch |
| 18:21:39 | BZFlag | got an ethernet card so you can nfsmount your working tree? |
| 18:21:53 | BZFlag | ahh, sweet! |
| 18:22:43 | kergoth | BZFlag: fyi, a broken set_vpp function makes the mtd layer NOT happy with you. hehe. kernel NULL pointer deref in jffs2 |
| 18:22:56 | BZFlag | fun fun |
| 18:23:14 | kergoth | it is actually. I'm thoroughly enjoying myself when i'm not cursing ;-) |
| 18:26:03 | kergoth | BZFlag: is there kgdb or LTT for arm yet? |
| 18:32:40 | prpplague | mallum: howdy |
| 18:33:03 | prpplague | mallum: hey the matchbox images for the ipaq, are they for a specific familiar version? |
| 18:33:26 | mallum | prpplague: nope, should work with any |
| 18:36:06 | prpplague | mallum: ok thanks, ipaq reload is on the schedule for this afternoon |
| 18:38:04 | BZFlag | kergoth: not that I use, but I would thing there is someplace. |
| 18:38:31 | kergoth | yeah I'll dig. just sprinkling printks for now |
| 19:00:40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: wanna know how much I like FLTK? |
| 19:01:11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you've change the name of your first born to "FLTK" ? |
| 19:01:21 | CosmicPenguin | I just wrote a curses toolkit with almost the exact style |
| 19:01:32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool |
| 19:01:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: open source? |
| 19:02:08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I hope so |
| 19:04:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: me to |
| 19:26:47 | Agarwal | Hi guys! Does someone have some spare time to help me set my network card? |
| 19:27:17 | Agarwal | on the tuxscreen, of course |
| 19:35:09 | Russ|werk | what problem are you having/what card do you have |
| 19:38:02 | Agarwal | I got a Xircom PS-CE2-10, which is already listed in /etc/pcmcia/config and which have it's own driver apparently (xirc2ps_cs.o) |
| 19:38:48 | Agarwal | the problem is that modprobe gives errors on boot, and the card doesn't seem to get initialized |
| 19:40:08 | Agarwal | modprobe give unhandled page faults errors at boot-up |
| 19:48:54 | Agarwal | leave me a msg if you can help me set up my network card on the tux please |
| 19:55:30 | CosmicPenguin | Agarwal: it would help if you could tell us some of the errors that you get |
| 19:56:21 | Agarwal | well... modprobe just gives some page faults, and nothing else |
| 19:56:33 | Agarwal | but IMve read that modprobe is broken anyway |
| 19:57:30 | Agarwal | how I'm I supposed to configure the card 'manually'? I've tried commeting out pcnet_cs in linuxrc and adding the driver for my card (xirc2ps_cs) with no result |
| 19:57:43 | CosmicPenguin | what happens if you run 'insmod' instead |
| 19:57:45 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 19:58:31 | Agarwal | well, looking at the linuxrc file, it uses insmod instead of modprobe |
| 20:00:12 | Agarwal | ho... I get a bad vcc now |
| 20:00:16 | Agarwal | Bad Vcc |
| 20:00:33 | Agarwal | does this mean the card is 5v? |
| 20:01:18 | Agarwal | i was told it was 3.3v :( |
| 20:03:13 | Agarwal | ok, so it IS 5v |
| 20:03:15 | Agarwal | damn |
| 20:08:25 | Agarwal | needs a 3.3v pcmcia nic :( |
| 20:09:49 | Agarwal | we should have organized a group buy of compatible nic cards |
| 20:15:34 | Agarwal | compilation of gcc-final is getting an error with the latest linux patch (rmk7) with buildroot |
| 20:21:25 | Agarwal | hmm forget that... even when removing the patch I still an error at the configure of arm-linux/libiberty |
| 20:21:25 | Agarwal | odd |
| 21:59:59 | ][N-Flux | is back (gone 22:40:03) |
| 22:08:36 | prpplague | i'm out of here guys |
| 22:12:11 | CosmicPenguin | as am I |
| 22:12:25 | CosmicPenguin | is away: I'm at home - ping CosmicPenguin if you see him |
| 22:22:33 | kergoth | damnit. |
| 22:23:22 | kergoth | BZFlag: what a pain in the ass. the set_Vpp function wont work unless I set up the tc35143af.. and of course that wont work without setting up CLK9M from locomo and setting up the mcp clock.. so to get flash i need to now set up locomo, which i'd been putting off for the last minute for a while now. hehe |
| 22:29:01 | BZFlag | nice hw design huh? |
| 22:29:16 | BZFlag | I asked vercel to just flash_write_enable all the time. |
| 22:29:22 | kergoth | oh yeah, think we've got enough shit interconnected |
| 22:29:22 | BZFlag | didn't happen so far. |
| 22:29:28 | kergoth | that sucks |
| 23:10:42 | prpplague | file: howdy |
| 23:10:57 | file | prpplague: wow, you said hi to me for once |
| 23:10:58 | prpplague | file: looks like you might not get your stuff a couple of weeks |
| 23:11:16 | prpplague | file: i'm suppose to leave for barbados in the morning for 2 weeks |
| 23:11:16 | file | prpplague: which stuff? |
| 23:11:23 | file | screams |
| 23:11:36 | file | oh well |
| 23:12:51 | file | prpplague: enjoy your trip |
| 23:13:04 | jacques | building latest cvs buildroot |
| 23:13:12 | file | prpplague: you should use your ominous power to make someone do the paperwork :) |
| 23:13:43 | prpplague | file: ya right |
| 23:13:51 | file | prpplague: haha |
| 23:14:21 | ][N-Flux | ugh |
| 23:14:47 | file | prpplague: I didn't expect you to send it anytime soon anyway :) |
| 23:16:17 | prpplague | file: ya well i actually had planned on getting it done tomorrow |
| 23:16:51 | file | prpplague: my bad luck strikes again :) |
| 23:19:04 | file | prpplague: so virtually no chance of getting it out tomorrow... alrighty then |
| 23:23:07 | file | offers prpplague a cookie |
| 23:27:16 | jacques | wow it's still going |
| 23:28:31 | jacques | damn I knew I should not have said anything |
| 23:29:21 | jacques | libbb.a(restricted_shell.o): In function `restricted_shell': |
| 23:29:21 | jacques | restricted_shell.o(.text+0x8): undefined reference to `setusershell' |
| 23:29:21 | jacques | restricted_shell.o(.text+0xc): undefined reference to `getusershell' |
| 23:29:21 | jacques | restricted_shell.o(.text+0x38): undefined reference to `endusershell' |
| 23:29:21 | jacques | libbb.a(setup_environment.o): In function `setup_environment': |
| 23:29:21 | jacques | setup_environment.o(.text+0x9c): undefined reference to `clearenv' |
| 23:29:24 | prpplague | file: theres is a small posibility of not going tomorrow |
| 23:29:34 | jacques | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/packages/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/tinylogin' |
| 23:29:50 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 days, 8 hours, 41 minutes and 34 seconds ago, saying: hehe [Wed Jul 17 15:48:16 2002] |
| 23:29:50 | jacques | ibot: seen andersee |
| 23:30:15 | file | prpplague: small? |
| 23:30:34 | prpplague | small |
| 23:30:40 | file | prpplague: I suppose you've explored all possibilities of getting it out before then? |
| 23:30:58 | file | threatens jacques with a copy of Microsoft Bob 1.0! Warn us before you paste |
| 23:32:18 | jacques | sorry |
| 23:32:23 | prpplague | argh, not bob |
| 23:32:53 | file | prpplague: so why you going anyway? |
| 23:35:37 | prpplague | file: major network outage |
| 23:35:52 | file | prpplague: ic |
| 23:35:57 | file | 2 weeks... |
| 23:43:43 | prpplague | file: i said major |