| 00:12:03 | Russ | arrives |
| 00:12:15 | file | hello Monsieur Russ |
| 00:40:46 | ][N-Flux | is back (gone 02:07:41) |
| 01:48:03 | prpplague | knee how mow sammy |
| 02:12:20 | scanline | is back (gone 02:23:24) |
| 02:57:32 | warewolf | bzflag- around? |
| 03:02:28 | warewolf | so when you get it, can you use it as a phone normally? |
| 03:02:44 | warewolf | er, misfire, but I guess that can be answered here |
| 03:07:17 | BZFlag | warewolf: yes. it comes with inferno. phone, speaker phone, callerid, web browser, pop3 email all work. |
| 03:07:37 | BZFlag | net connect is _only_ through dialup soft modem. |
| 03:08:07 | BZFlag | install linux and you loose the built in inferno apps and the modem support. but then pcmcia works. |
| 03:09:02 | warewolf | oh, so the standard OS isn't linux |
| 03:09:29 | ][N-Flux | cannot wait :) |
| 03:09:32 | warewolf | yeah |
| 03:09:37 | warewolf | I just send bz $120 |
| 03:09:46 | warewolf | (paypal) |
| 03:10:31 | warewolf | sounds like a really cool device, I can't wait to put it to use |
| 03:10:49 | ][N-Flux | can boot form the pcmcia, which adds more space |
| 03:11:28 | warewolf | pcmcia ... disk, ram, ether? |
| 03:11:50 | ][N-Flux | I'm going to be using a cf in a pcmcia card |
| 03:11:57 | warewolf | ah |
| 03:12:43 | warewolf | I wonder if anyone has done a cordless handset mod |
| 03:13:02 | ][N-Flux | dunno, but this would be the place to check |
| 03:14:14 | BZFlag | warewolf: heard some talk, but no reports of success. |
| 03:14:32 | BZFlag | I know someone did a wired conversion on the keyboard. ;-) |
| 03:14:43 | warewolf | heh |
| 03:15:02 | warewolf | bz- I just sent you money, my shipping addy should be in the paypal email |
| 03:15:05 | ][N-Flux | I wanna make a doom call list thingy |
| 03:16:33 | sorphin | evening/morning/afternoon (depending on location) :) |
| 03:17:28 | warewolf | no |
| 03:17:32 | warewolf | er, misfire |
| 03:20:33 | ][N-Flux | does anyone know if the linksys card are supported on the phone? |
| 03:20:42 | ][N-Flux | pcmcia and wireless cf |
| 03:42:33 | BZFlag | some linksys cards are 3.3 and work right away, others ar 5v and need the 5v mod. |
| 03:42:42 | BZFlag | the cf cards should all be 3.3v |
| 03:43:00 | sorphin | BZFlag: both my TS's showed up today, you're a quick shipper :) |
| 03:44:25 | BZFlag | sorphin: cool. some orders lag, but I try. |
| 03:44:42 | sorphin | :) |
| 03:44:55 | sorphin | i did find out the hard way when installing inferno locally |
| 03:45:20 | sorphin | NOT to have a ttyS0 for it to try and steal (and when running it too unless i WANT it to confiscate S0) |
| 03:48:18 | sorphin | a nice lil pita.. to say the least.. |
| 03:49:04 | ][N-Flux | has a linksys Etherfast pcmcia 56k/10/100 combo card |
| 04:06:17 | sorphin | anyone else ran into that? ( i can't exactly use S0 for the tuxscreen) when emu tries to use it as soon as you run it (emu), like it thinks that's your console or something.. |
| 04:53:33 | sorphin | guess that's a no.. |
| 09:07:13 | scanline | is away: writing code while watching the apple keynote |
| 13:38:51 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 13:39:05 | sorphin | allo cos |
| 13:40:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 13:40:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i see that rhat is still unsure of the future of eCos |
| 13:50:39 | sjhill | prpplague: unsure? they canceled it |
| 13:50:47 | CosmicPenguin | rhat is unsure of anything at this point |
| 13:50:53 | CosmicPenguin | and yes, I believe that eCos is dead |
| 13:51:04 | sorphin | anyone see my Q from last night? :) |
| 13:54:06 | prpplague | sjhill: well there was a post on newsforge about them possibly not canceling it |
| 13:54:54 | sjhill | ah |
| 13:55:14 | prpplague | sjhill: http://sdtimes.com/news/058/emb1.htm |
| 13:55:20 | sjhill | linux is still too big for some systems...more work needs to be done like uClinux |
| 13:55:35 | prpplague | sjhill: i agree |
| 13:56:03 | prpplague | sjhill: libc is still the major headache for me |
| 14:27:37 | prpplague | andersee: ! |
| 14:27:44 | prpplague | andersee: how goes it? |
| 14:28:12 | andersee | not too bad |
| 14:28:28 | prpplague | andersee: it had a question about the code in BB but i can't seem to remember at this moment |
| 14:28:33 | prpplague | s/it/i |
| 14:28:38 | andersee | Still trying to work out a visit to Linux World w/my wife. |
| 14:28:45 | prpplague | andersee: ahh |
| 14:28:55 | prpplague | andersee: fun isn't it? |
| 14:28:55 | andersee | prpplague: mmk. When you remember... |
| 14:29:48 | andersee | prpplague: The hard part is finding someone to watch our 2 year old son.... |
| 14:30:56 | prpplague | andersee: been there, done that |
| 14:31:55 | andersee | prpplague: you going? |
| 14:33:49 | prpplague | andersee: sorry, no, we have too much going on |
| 14:34:25 | prpplague | andersee: i might be headed to panama for a couple of weeks as well as possible aruba and cursel |
| 14:34:29 | andersee | I'm still trying to work things out so I can go... |
| 14:34:42 | andersee | panama? |
| 14:35:08 | prpplague | andersee: we have a hugh installation running on SCO that we are planning to migrate to linux |
| 14:35:28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: doh! bad news for century? |
| 14:36:25 | Fluxwerk | is back (gone 18:36:03) |
| 14:36:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, well we already migrated them from TT to a GPL telnet/ssh client for winblows |
| 14:38:53 | andersee | prpplague: need some help -- for the cost of a vacation to panama? |
| 14:39:44 | prpplague | andersee: lol, i don't think you'd want to go, last time i went, i was putting in around 100 hours a week |
| 14:39:50 | prpplague | andersee: no time for the beach |
| 14:39:56 | andersee | bummer |
| 14:40:10 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: we'vev got a new Windoze SSH client coming out very soon' |
| 14:40:32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya but is it free? |
| 14:40:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 14:41:00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: tell one of your boys to send me a copy, we'll check it out |
| 14:41:08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got good linux emulation? |
| 14:41:14 | file | is on for a sec |
| 14:46:16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you get that url? |
| 14:46:58 | prpplague | argh, i've been waiting for andersee to show up for 3 days and now i can't remember what i wanted ask |
| 14:47:26 | prpplague | has oldtimers^h^halzheimers |
| 14:48:16 | andersee | hehe |
| 14:48:56 | file | you wanted to ask... why... stuff happens |
| 14:49:46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thanks |
| 14:53:05 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: http://te.censoft.com/products/secure.php?src=120 |
| 14:57:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cute page, i like the animated demo |
| 14:59:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: there is only one thing i'd add, a place to add addition args to the TERM enviroment variable |
| 15:04:04 | sorphin | asks again, since no one saw it last night i guess.. when installing inferno on the local side/running it on the local side, anyone had it want to use ttyS0 as it's "console" unless you basically renamed ttyS0 ? :/ seems to want to do that here, and makes it impossible to of course use the port for connecting to the tuxscreen... |
| 15:08:40 | prpplague | sorphin: i don't follow what your asking? |
| 15:08:55 | prpplague | sorphin: are you trying to flash blob on your tux via inferno? |
| 15:09:02 | sorphin | ok, both when i installed inferno and are trying to use it |
| 15:09:09 | sorphin | heh, i can't even get that far ;p |
| 15:09:17 | sorphin | when emu is run |
| 15:09:28 | sorphin | it automatically tries to grab ttyS0 |
| 15:09:36 | sorphin | as it's "console" |
| 15:09:50 | sorphin | i literally have to rename ttyS0, to say ttyS0.old |
| 15:10:05 | sorphin | to be able to get the stupid inferno ; prompt |
| 15:10:43 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm its been awhile since i did my blob flash via inferno, but i don't recall having that problem |
| 15:10:53 | sorphin | hmm |
| 15:10:54 | prpplague | sorphin: you are doing this from linux right? |
| 15:11:06 | sorphin | knows it's doing it, becausde i've strace'd emu and that's the 1st thing it does |
| 15:11:07 | sorphin | and yes |
| 15:12:03 | sorphin | inferno checks/reads /etc/passwd for some reason |
| 15:12:06 | sorphin | then does this: |
| 15:12:07 | sorphin | SYS_199(0x4023ee48, 0, 0x4023faa0, 0x4023cc10, 0x80fcb60) = 505 |
| 15:12:07 | sorphin | ipc_subcall(0x4023ee48, 0, 0x4023faa0, 0x4023cc10) = 16 |
| 15:12:08 | sorphin | open("/dev/ttyS0", O_RDWR |
| 15:12:12 | sorphin | and sits there forever |
| 15:12:42 | sorphin | unless i "take away" S0, which then it'll do what it's SUPPOSED to do, and let me use inferno from the commandline |
| 15:12:57 | sorphin | but then, even when i rename S0 back, i of course can't bind to it |
| 15:20:14 | sorphin | follow ? |
| 15:20:45 | prpplague | sorphin: yes, but i don;t know what to say |
| 15:21:01 | sorphin | wish i knew what to say.. :/ |
| 15:21:15 | prpplague | sorphin: i've got a tux that needs to be flashed, the only thing i can think of is let me try it and see if i can run into the same problem |
| 15:21:37 | sorphin | well, even just playing around in inferno |
| 15:21:57 | sorphin | that's all i'm even doing atm was installing and getting it running locally |
| 15:22:21 | sorphin | trying to install it hung for the same reason too, emu seems to like my serial port unless it can't access it |
| 15:22:56 | prpplague | sorphin: and you have checked the wiki? |
| 15:23:31 | Fluxwerk | so, who is running what on thier tuxscreen? |
| 15:23:46 | sorphin | prpplague: tried to |
| 15:24:03 | sorphin | damn wiki doesn't seem to like IE or netscape a lot of the time |
| 15:24:13 | sorphin | ends up having to lynx it |
| 15:24:21 | prpplague | sorphin: thats odd |
| 15:24:37 | sorphin | prpplague: i seem to be good at finding flaws in things ;) |
| 15:24:39 | Fluxwerk | mozilla |
| 15:24:42 | Fluxwerk | :) |
| 15:26:01 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/InfernoRemote |
| 15:26:13 | prpplague | sorphin: is that the page your operating from? |
| 15:27:15 | sorphin | one of many i've looked at, but yeah, that's about right |
| 15:27:49 | sorphin | because i've renamed S0 when emu loads, when i rename it back to S0, it can't bind to it still.. |
| 15:28:04 | sorphin | are you in hte position where you can look at your inferno install? |
| 15:28:28 | prpplague | sorphin: sorry, no, got too many items going on right now |
| 15:28:50 | sorphin | nod |
| 15:28:50 | file | mutters stuff to himself |
| 15:29:02 | prpplague | sorphin: so should be binding to /dev/eia0 |
| 15:29:09 | sorphin | rm -f's file |
| 15:29:11 | file | mail service is slow darn it... |
| 15:29:12 | sorphin | grins |
| 15:29:18 | file | reappears |
| 15:29:29 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah |
| 15:29:48 | sorphin | i'm *assuming* the binding creates eia0 in inferno's /dev |
| 15:30:10 | file | I'm extremely impatient |
| 15:30:14 | sorphin | cuz by stock, there's nothing in dev in inferno's home |
| 15:30:21 | file | but I must wait many weeks |
| 15:30:28 | sorphin | ? |
| 16:07:21 | Fluxwerk | hey mallum |
| 16:07:43 | mallum | Fluxwerk: hello there :) |
| 16:08:40 | Fluxwerk | can't wait for my phone |
| 16:10:30 | mallum | :) |
| 16:10:47 | Fluxwerk | got a 96meg cf waiting |
| 17:03:34 | BWegh | hi, im looking vor a "Stromlaufplan" (dont know the englisch word) of the connection between the sa-1100 and the keyboard, touchscreen and the Display can anyone help me? |
| 17:07:16 | CosmicPenguin | Check the WIKI - its all there |
| 17:08:20 | BWegh | CosmicPenguin; i only found the blockdiagram?!? |
| 17:08:36 | file | sighs |
| 17:42:41 | prpplague | anyone know what chip manufacurer uses a large cursive S as their symbol? |
| 17:42:56 | sorphin | if i *saw* it, i might know |
| 17:45:57 | prpplague | ahh, its "integrated Device Technology", its an I not an S |
| 17:46:23 | sorphin | IDT |
| 17:53:22 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, this chip seems to be a 64bit mips processor |
| 17:53:29 | sorphin | yup |
| 17:53:46 | sorphin | doesn't surprise me |
| 17:53:48 | prpplague | are you familiar with the r3051? |
| 17:54:01 | sorphin | the Tivo Series 2 uses an R5432 ;) |
| 17:54:07 | prpplague | ahh |
| 17:54:22 | sorphin | no, never used an R3k |
| 17:54:25 | sorphin | just 4 and 5 |
| 17:54:43 | prpplague | never messed with mips |
| 17:54:55 | sorphin | has an indigo2 on it's way to him |
| 18:29:20 | warewolf | well |
| 18:29:20 | warewolf | er, whoops, wrong channel |
| 18:29:20 | mallum | fontenot: I just uploaded matchbox 0.3.1 |
| 18:35:31 | Fluxwerk | where can I get ,atchbox screenshots |
| 18:35:36 | Fluxwerk | matchbox even |
| 18:36:01 | prpplague | mallum: cool |
| 18:36:33 | prpplague | mallum: i've got to get it compiled for my ipaq |
| 18:36:42 | file | faints |
| 18:43:20 | mallum | Fluxwerk: http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox |
| 18:48:49 | prpplague | mallum: gpe? |
| 18:49:57 | mallum | prpplague: gpe.handhelds.org |
| 18:56:16 | Fluxwerk | danke |
| 18:57:15 | Fluxwerk | mallum: you shouled work with gentoo to get matchbox emerge'able :) |
| 18:58:25 | Fluxwerk | should ahve bought that mako when I had the chance |
| 18:58:36 | Fluxwerk | damn typing dyslexia |
| 18:59:03 | mallum | Fluxwerk: I dont use gentoo |
| 18:59:54 | Fluxwerk | mallum: well, then I'll talk to the peeps in gentoo |
| 18:59:55 | Fluxwerk | :) |
| 19:20:09 | mallum | Fluxwerk: cool, get its packaged |
| 19:20:21 | mallum | Fluxwerk: shouldn't be too hard |
| 19:25:17 | CosmicPenguin | my machine is running dirt slow, but I can't figure out why |
| 19:25:38 | Fluxwerk | hung process |
| 19:25:45 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
| 19:26:01 | CosmicPenguin | no outside connections - if I'm being hacked, they are being real wierd about it |
| 19:43:39 | sorphin | allo tim |
| 19:53:17 | Fluxwerk | is away: Be back on from home |
| 20:00:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey have you looked at the gpe project? |
| 20:04:59 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm on the mailing list - IMHO the only worthwhile thing they've produced to date is a sqlite daemon |
| 20:10:39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmmm |
| 20:11:57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmm, you know any good exploits for xp? i've got a xp users spamming our server, i've already got him blocked, but its starting to annoy me |
| 20:18:13 | jacques_gone | hi lo |
| 20:37:07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lemme think |
| 20:39:50 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nm, i called his isp, they dumped his account immediatky |
| 20:41:52 | jacques | prpplague: good for you |
| 20:50:00 | CosmicPenguin | hehe... cray still has 5 entries in bugtraq... :) |
| 23:01:39 | sorphin | heh, weird.. now the serial cooperates... |
| 23:20:08 | ][N-Flux | is away: fixin pc |
| 23:27:55 | scanline | is back (gone 14:20:42) |
| 23:39:57 | scanline | hi file |
| 23:40:05 | file | hello |