| 00:14:23 | Agarwal | hmm guys... what could suddently cause blob to stop receiving the typed keys (on the remote pc)? I tried 2 computers, and on both, I can't send anything to blob, altough I can stop it from autobooting! |
| 00:26:44 | AgAway | :( |
| 00:28:35 | ][N-Flux | is back (gone 45:10:17) |
| 00:34:01 | BZFlag | AgAway: the old ramdisks probably do not have the kernel in them so they would not boot. |
| 00:34:29 | AgAway | The problem is at the blob prompt |
| 00:34:33 | BZFlag | you should be able to flash one, then upload a kernel and boot it from ram. then after booting copy the kernel to /boot/linux |
| 00:34:39 | AgAway | I can stop autobooting, but I can't type anything |
| 00:34:54 | BZFlag | hit one character ONLY to stop the autoboot. |
| 00:34:58 | BZFlag | known blob bug. |
| 00:35:07 | AgAway | heh truly? |
| 00:35:10 | AgAway | lemme try |
| 00:35:25 | AgAway | heheh! |
| 00:35:35 | AgAway | thanks a lot Mr. Riker! ;) |
| 00:35:41 | AgAway | this should be documented |
| 00:35:54 | BZFlag | probably easier to find and fix the bug. ;-) |
| 00:36:02 | AgAway | I thought I bricked my tux or something... phew ;) |
| 00:36:04 | AgAway | true |
| 00:36:14 | BZFlag | but feel free to add it to one of the wiki pages. |
| 00:36:32 | AgAway | Oki, will probably do. |
| 00:37:47 | AgAway | is there any way to get an old krenel/ramdisk combo to work on the tux using the newest blob? |
| 00:38:21 | AgAway | hmm |
| 00:43:59 | AgAway | where the kernel will be after I upload it to blob and after booting it from ram? |
| 00:47:09 | CaCtus491 | Morning |
| 00:47:34 | CaCtus491 | Can anyone help me out a bit? I've got a bit of a problem with the TuxScreen |
| 00:48:20 | BZFlag | AgAway: yes. upload the old style ramdisk. "erase ramdisk", "flash ramdisk", upload _new_ kernel, boot. reupload kernel and store as /boot/linux |
| 00:48:39 | CaCtus491 | Being in Australia and having 240v @ 50Hz, the power supply doesn't work... |
| 00:49:06 | CaCtus491 | I've made a 5v and 3.3v supply and the phone boots and I can make calls, etc |
| 00:49:07 | BZFlag | AgAway: so the kernel won't be anywhere yet. you need to send it over with rz or wget etc. |
| 00:49:15 | AgAway | I understand... but I will I *reupload* the kernel? That's wghere I'm bugged :) |
| 00:49:22 | AgAway | haa oki :) |
| 00:49:24 | AgAway | thanks |
| 00:49:32 | BZFlag | CaCtus491: known issue. you need a PFI signal. |
| 00:49:44 | CaCtus491 | Thats what I was going to ask about :) |
| 00:49:45 | AgAway | dammit... I think I'm a little tired, look at my typos!! |
| 00:49:49 | CaCtus491 | I have no idea what to do with it |
| 00:49:56 | CaCtus491 | any suggestions? |
| 00:50:28 | BZFlag | http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:-MF1vpFiZQ8C:www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/PFI+PFI&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 00:51:10 | BZFlag | easiest thing to do is get a transformer to run the phone off. |
| 00:51:27 | CaCtus491 | 240v <-> 110? |
| 00:52:16 | BZFlag | http://www.tuxscreen.net/download/schematics/PFI.pdf has the info on how to create one. |
| 00:52:31 | CaCtus491 | being switch mode, and my lack of knowledge about these types of power supplies, would it get upset about the 50hz rather than 60hz? |
| 00:53:16 | BZFlag | Not likely. the phone runs on DC, and the converter should not rely on 60hz. |
| 00:53:42 | BZFlag | the PFI signal would likely be clocked slower, but I don't suspect there will be an issue with that either. |
| 00:53:58 | CaCtus491 | yeah, I thought that, it just says 57-63hz on the adaptor |
| 00:54:17 | CaCtus491 | and I wasn't sure how the swtich mode supply would handle something esle. |
| 00:56:02 | CaCtus491 | Hmm, on this page: |
| 00:56:02 | CaCtus491 | http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:-MF1vpFiZQ8C:www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/Main/PFI+PFI&hl=en&lr=lang_en&ie=UTF-8 |
| 00:56:05 | BZFlag | I am not a hardware guy, so you might get a second opinion. ;-) |
| 00:56:26 | CaCtus491 | any idea what the peak to peak voltage is? |
| 00:56:35 | ][N-Flux | how fast is the cpu in the phone? |
| 00:56:45 | CaCtus491 | I was thinking of just making my own signal from a 555 timer? |
| 00:57:18 | BZFlag | ][N-Flux: it's a 133Mhz but we run it at like 191Mhz or something. |
| 00:57:28 | ][N-Flux | kewl |
| 00:57:41 | ][N-Flux | fast enough, almost zaurus/ipaq speed |
| 00:59:31 | BZFlag | should be possible to run at 206, but ram timings would likely have to he cut down to handle that. |
| 01:00:07 | Agarwal | BZFlag: updated "blob" on the multiple keys bug |
| 01:00:20 | ][N-Flux | 191 is fine, not playing quake on it :) |
| 01:00:27 | ][N-Flux | hrmmm DOOM |
| 01:00:30 | ][N-Flux | hehe |
| 01:00:39 | ][N-Flux | get's an idea |
| 01:01:01 | Agarwal | there's some guy who's wondering about porting wolfenstein (the original) to the tuxscreen |
| 01:01:18 | Agarwal | it's on the wiki |
| 01:02:56 | ][N-Flux | you know that process killer, that was made like doom |
| 01:03:09 | ][N-Flux | that same idea as a kind of caller id |
| 01:03:15 | scan[ibook] | psdoom! |
| 01:05:56 | Agarwal | heh |
| 01:10:33 | BZFlag | I've run lxdoom (debian) on the tux and it was acceptable play rate. At the time there was no audio option. |
| 01:11:35 | Agarwal | do I only have to run "boot" un blob after I've downloaded a kernel to run it from ram? |
| 01:13:28 | BZFlag | yes. you might want to pass command line args, but they should default to something sensible like root=/dev/mtdblock1 console=ttySA0,115200 init=/linuxrc or some such. |
| 01:14:25 | Agarwal | Ok. I get a kernel panic, I'll see what it defaults to. Thanks! |
| 01:15:08 | BZFlag | remember it needs to be a _new_ kernel. or it will try to mount using the old partitioning. |
| 01:15:48 | Agarwal | ho... oki |
| 01:24:22 | | Test Successful! |
| 01:24:22 | fontenot | ibot: test |
| 01:26:37 | scan[ibook] | hmm.. odd seeing yourself (logged on from a different computer) netsplit |
| 01:29:52 | | It's great to be back! |
| 01:29:52 | scan[ibook] | ibot: welcome back! |
| 01:31:02 | | fontenot: i'm not following you... |
| 01:31:02 | fontenot | ibot: botsmack |
| 01:31:24 | | no idea, scan[ibook] |
| 01:31:24 | scan[ibook] | ibot: ramen? |
| 01:31:32 | | no idea, scan[ibook] |
| 01:31:32 | scan[ibook] | ibot: smack? |
| 01:31:38 | fontenot | hmg |
| 01:31:45 | fontenot | someone erased a lot of stuff |
| 01:31:48 | scan[ibook] | hmm.. this bot needs to learn more important things ;) |
| 01:33:30 | | Yay for smack ramen! |
| 01:33:30 | scan[ibook] | ibot: botsmack |
| 02:01:14 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 02:01:17 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:02) |
| 02:12:37 | prpplague | scanline: enjoying a wonderful friday night? |
| 02:13:03 | scanline | prpplague: yeah... gonna go to bed early to have energy for the (hopefully) supernifty lan party tomorrow |
| 02:13:30 | prpplague | scanline: ahh |
| 02:13:50 | scanline | is older tomorrow |
| 02:13:50 | prpplague | scanline: my 4 years is sick with projectile vomiting, no sleep for me |
| 02:14:08 | scanline | yikes.. good luck (for you and your 4 year old) |
| 02:14:15 | prpplague | scanline: thanks |
| 02:15:02 | prpplague | scanline: i've already written about 10 c functions tonight dealing with sickness i.e. db_vomit() |
| 02:15:27 | scanline | haha |
| 02:18:03 | prpplague | scanline: how old tomorrow? |
| 02:18:07 | scanline | 18 |
| 02:18:15 | prpplague | doh |
| 02:18:36 | prpplague | scanline: man, already got picogui on your resume an 18 |
| 02:18:46 | prpplague | scanline: man your gonna have a great future |
| 02:18:49 | scanline | And I've been working on it for more than 2 years :) |
| 02:20:41 | prpplague | scanline: man thats awesome |
| 02:21:20 | prpplague | scanline: makes my asembly for apple ][ at 18 pretty lame |
| 02:21:38 | scanline | shrugs |
| 02:21:51 | scanline | What did you do to the Apple ][? |
| 02:22:16 | prpplague | scanline: i made POS and data aquisition terminals |
| 02:22:30 | scanline | ahh |
| 02:22:36 | scanline | That's cool |
| 02:23:06 | prpplague | scanline: i also sold an adapter to convert a atari style joystick into a digital joystick for the apple and other early pcs |
| 02:23:39 | scanline | That's neat |
| 02:24:04 | scanline | I haven't really sold anything (aside for some crappy windows educational software) but I might be making a kit for this case mod I built |
| 02:24:35 | prpplague | scanline: hmm, i thought you were doing some custom work on picogui for someone? |
| 02:24:51 | scanline | I've been doing picogui-related contracting for a few companies |
| 02:25:00 | prpplague | scanline: ahh |
| 02:27:20 | prpplague | scanline: well hang in there |
| 02:27:37 | scanline | will do :) |
| 02:28:27 | prpplague | scanline: just don't get married anytime soon, lol |
| 02:28:46 | scanline | haha |
| 02:37:02 | prpplague | well, off to take of my son and get some sleep if i can |
| 02:37:06 | prpplague | later guys |
| 07:19:12 | BWegh | morning |
| 07:21:38 | BWegh | where can i find the "ARM Architecture Refernece" ? |
| 07:25:18 | bhima | google :) |
| 07:25:34 | bhima | I think I found it on a LART site. |
| 07:26:26 | BWegh | thx bhima - iv been looking at intels developer site but couldnt find it |
| 07:26:49 | bhima | sorry I can't help more :? |
| 07:26:53 | bhima | anyway, sleeptytime. |
| 09:49:08 | Tangent | ibot message for BWegh : Arm Architecture Reference Manual has always been a pay-for item.. never for free from intel's site... sorry |
| 10:05:28 | BZFlag | http://www.altera.com/literature/third-party/ddi0100e_arm_arm.pdf |
| 10:06:59 | Tangent | ibot message for BWegh : I lied.... http://www.altera.com/literature/third-party/ddi0100e_arm_arm.pdf |
| 10:10:01 | BZFlag | not saying it's legal, but I don't know that it's not either. |
| 10:13:42 | Tangent | Snagged myself a copy anyhow... just in case... |
| 10:13:43 | BZFlag | heh |
| 10:13:43 | Tangent | Don't tend to see armarm around very often |
| 10:13:43 | Tangent | As far as I, the end user is concerned... if it's there for public download, and it doesn't say "warez" all over the website, then it's legal for me to download... If it's not legal, then it's not my problem anyhow... it's website's problem |
| 10:13:43 | BZFlag | agreed. |
| 10:17:40 | spse | morning Tangent |
| 10:18:31 | Tangent | spse: Morning slacker |
| 10:18:52 | Tangent | spse: How come your upstream bandwidth is always so poor ? |
| 10:21:32 | spse | should be 256ish |
| 10:24:46 | Tangent | steady 13.7KB/s |
| 10:24:58 | Tangent | max in the last 12 hours was 18.7KB/s |
| 10:26:06 | spse | wierd, according to my traffic graph i was maxed out at 150Kb/s (nice flat line) |
| 10:26:52 | Tangent | weird indeed |
| 10:27:17 | spse | but you were pulling off the duff hard drive |
| 10:33:48 | Tangent | Aye... |
| 10:33:48 | Tangent | It's just been very consistent... that's all |
| 10:33:49 | Tangent | Oh my god... google is down |
| 10:33:49 | spse | works for me |
| 10:36:09 | file | hey all |
| 10:56:01 | Tangent | spse: It was definately down.. I tried from here and raq8... |
| 10:57:29 | spse | i suppose google dont notice when the internet is down since they have it all cached ;) |
| 20:36:07 | ][N-Flux | BZFlag: around? |
| 20:58:23 | ][N-Flux | is away: Fixing crap |
| 23:30:19 | BZFlag | ][N-Flux: back. sup? |
| 23:40:14 | ][N-Flux | see /msg |