| 01:43:29 | scanline | is back (gone 01:47:26) |
| 03:25:25 | AusDrew | g'day |
| 03:30:27 | andersee | evening |
| 05:24:00 | pmisfit | for various reasons, i am trying to get buildroot to work on a freebsd box |
| 05:24:38 | pmisfit | the only portability problems i've found are the use of make instead of $(MAKE), and cp -a instead of cp -pPR |
| 05:28:09 | pmisfit | if nobody gets visibly upset by this idea, i may considering committing the changes. |
| 05:34:20 | andersee | pmisfit: go far it. |
| 05:36:03 | pmisfit | cool. if i can't find a least-common-denominator of "cp" args, i'll just put a test in there somewhere. |
| 05:46:26 | andersee | pmisfit: worst case you can use tar... |
| 05:46:46 | andersee | pmisfit: See how I copy stuff using tar | tar in uClibc/Makefile |
| 05:48:29 | andersee | pmisfit: Thats what people used to do in the bad old days before cp -a was invented |
| 05:49:26 | pmisfit | k. how about install as a portable alternative? |
| 05:52:44 | andersee | Works. What is being copied anyways? |
| 05:53:34 | pmisfit | example: ./slang.mk: cp -a $(SLANG_DIR)/libslang.a $(STAGING_DIR)/lib; |
| 05:53:59 | pmisfit | kinda feels like "install -c" to me... |
| 05:54:23 | andersee | yup indeed |
| 05:54:36 | andersee | No need for a cp -a there at all. |
| 05:55:10 | andersee | install works. Or just 'cp' |
| 05:55:31 | pmisfit | good call. must be force of habit. |
| 05:55:53 | andersee | yup |
| 05:56:17 | andersee | Someone is coding on autopilot |
| 07:22:06 | pmisfit | hmm. this normal? |
| 07:22:07 | pmisfit | cc1: warning: as it is the same as non-system directory "/mnt/kens/ki/is/embedded/tuxscreen/cvsbuildroot/build/stage/include" |
| 07:22:08 | pmisfit | cc1: warning: changing search order for system directory "/mnt/kens/ki/is/embedded/tuxscreen/cvsbuildroot/build/stage/arm-linux/include" |
| 07:38:36 | andersee | yeah, that should be ok |
| 08:31:12 | mallum | fontenot: are you awake ? |
| 11:31:02 | file | hey GPSFan |
| 11:31:23 | GPSFan | hi file, whatsup? |
| 11:33:46 | file | nothin' |
| 11:33:50 | file | looking at Virtual Private Servers |
| 11:33:53 | file | found one for $9.99/mth |
| 11:34:33 | GPSFan | file: and what is a VPS? (pardon my ignorance) |
| 11:34:35 | file | I usually get all my hosting free, but I want the ability to add software and such |
| 11:34:38 | file | Virtual Private Server |
| 11:34:52 | file | they run software that generates a virtual server |
| 11:35:07 | file | they only share the equipment and software between all the virtual servers on the box |
| 11:35:18 | file | you have root access on yours, and the ability to do whatever! |
| 11:35:32 | file | (core software, such as GCC) |
| 11:35:40 | file | you can also modify the startup scripts, reboot it, etc |
| 11:35:44 | GPSFan | ah, sort of like "rent a box" |
| 11:35:49 | file | yup |
| 11:36:05 | GPSFan | except it is at someone elses place. |
| 11:36:10 | file | correct |
| 11:36:43 | file | neat eh? |
| 11:37:15 | GPSFan | sort of, what if it crashes, or you crash it requiring a reboot? |
| 11:37:32 | file | it'll come back online after a bit |
| 11:37:36 | file | or you can e-mail them |
| 11:37:43 | file | it behaves just like a regular machine |
| 11:37:52 | GPSFan | watchdog circuit, ok. |
| 11:37:53 | file | and thankfully, if you break it - only your virtual server is affected |
| 11:38:31 | GPSFan | is that 9.95/mn CN or US $? |
| 11:38:35 | file | US |
| 11:38:57 | GPSFan | what sort of CPU & Mem? |
| 11:39:18 | file | you get a minimum, but it's burstable |
| 11:39:38 | GPSFan | ok, |
| 11:41:15 | file | I might try it |
| 13:40:30 | Fluxwerk | is back (gone 23:26:33) |
| 13:40:35 | file | great |
| 13:40:38 | file | I think |
| 14:23:08 | mallum | I just relased matchbox 0.3 |
| 14:24:55 | Fluxwerk2 | I'll wait for matchbox 20 |
| 14:25:01 | Fluxwerk2 | oh god, couldn't help it |
| 14:25:02 | Fluxwerk2 | sorry ;) |
| 14:29:06 | Fluxwerk2 | needs to hurry and order the damn phone in the first place |
| 14:31:35 | mallum | http://handhelds.org/~mallum/matchbox |
| 14:33:26 | Fluxwerk2 | need to run that on my Z |
| 14:38:44 | file | crys |
| 14:39:24 | | i heard Z was zaurus |
| 14:39:24 | mallum | Z ? |
| 14:39:31 | Fluxwerk2 | yes |
| 14:39:34 | Fluxwerk2 | Z is zaurus |
| 14:40:09 | file | those are neat |
| 14:40:26 | Fluxwerk2 | yeppers |
| 14:40:40 | Fluxwerk2 | gotta sell my developer one and get the retail |
| 14:44:18 | file | hums |
| 14:44:31 | mallum | Fluxwerk2: wanna donate it ? |
| 14:44:36 | mallum | ;) |
| 14:44:55 | Fluxwerk2 | for money sure ;) |
| 14:45:05 | Fluxwerk2 | or a tuxscreen :) |
| 14:45:16 | file | Fluxwerk2: got any laptops to sell? |
| 14:45:48 | Fluxwerk2 | as a matter of fact |
| 14:45:53 | Fluxwerk2 | amarda m300 |
| 14:46:31 | file | is it old an cheap? |
| 14:46:35 | file | er and |
| 14:46:38 | Fluxwerk2 | p2 333 |
| 14:46:42 | Fluxwerk2 | 128 ram |
| 14:46:44 | mallum | Fluxwerk: you in the UK by any chance ? |
| 14:46:46 | Fluxwerk2 | 13.1" screen |
| 14:46:46 | file | too rich for my blood |
| 14:46:59 | Fluxwerk2 | mallum: NEW England |
| 14:47:01 | Fluxwerk2 | not old |
| 14:47:07 | mallum | Fluxwerk: damn |
| 14:47:10 | file | I wanted old |
| 14:47:14 | file | something cheap and inexpensive |
| 14:47:20 | Fluxwerk2 | I have old, just gotta find it |
| 14:47:27 | Fluxwerk2 | it's in storage |
| 14:47:29 | Fluxwerk2 | p200 |
| 14:47:35 | Fluxwerk2 | gateway |
| 14:47:42 | file | Fluxwerk2: yeah but you wouldn't sell that for $30 USD |
| 14:50:26 | file | or would you? :) |
| 14:55:38 | Fluxwerk2 | probably not :) |
| 14:55:48 | Fluxwerk2 | you need to go check flea markets ;) |
| 14:56:03 | file | we don't have computers at flea markets here |
| 14:56:16 | file | I'm getting a Thinkpad 560 in a few months, but I hate waiting |
| 14:59:09 | Fluxwerk2 | waiting sux |
| 14:59:24 | Fluxwerk2 | I want ot get a libretto l2 or casio fiva, but I must wait as well |
| 15:10:08 | file | Fluxwerk2: I've had to wait about 5 months |
| 15:10:16 | file | 2 1/2 or 3 to go... |
| 18:27:42 | Fluxwerk2 | is away: brb, hopefully |
| 19:12:21 | | privet, BWegh |
| 19:12:21 | BWegh | hi |
| 19:13:54 | BWegh | does anyone know where to find a COMPLETE Documentation of the SA-1100 or the SA-1110? or do i have to buy them? |
| 19:16:42 | BWegh | Fluxwerk: do you know where i can get a documentiation of the sa-1100? |
| 19:31:53 | BWegh | how can i look wether my CPU is 133 or 206 Mhz? |
| 19:32:23 | Fluxwerk | sa-1100, no sir I don't |
| 19:32:28 | Fluxwerk | is back (gone 00:16:18) |
| 19:32:40 | file | mmm? |
| 19:33:47 | file | BWegh: from my readings, it's both - the 206MHz is basically an overclocked 133 |
| 19:37:42 | file | dances |
| 19:38:03 | file | BWegh : you can force your Tuxscreen into 206MHz, there's instructions somewhere |
| 19:44:52 | file | hello mallum |
| 19:44:55 | mallum | hey file |
| 19:46:18 | file | FOOD |
| 19:47:25 | file | if ( strcmp(mallum, "food" ) ) |
| 19:47:26 | file | { |
| 19:47:31 | file | eat( mallum ); |
| 19:47:32 | file | } |
| 19:48:17 | mallum | dont you mean !strcmp ? |
| 19:48:47 | file | no |
| 19:49:12 | file | if your food, eat you |
| 19:52:25 | scanline | file: read the manpage on strcmp |
| 19:52:40 | BWegh | file: thx, but cant i read it from the oszi on the mainboard? |
| 19:52:56 | file | BWegh: dunno |
| 19:53:00 | file | scanline: I'm right |
| 19:53:12 | file | I know I'm right! |
| 19:53:19 | scanline | file: strcmp returns 0 if the strings are equal |
| 19:53:20 | BWegh | file: do you know where i can find a documentation of the sa-1100? |
| 19:53:33 | file | scanline: how come this always works then... |
| 19:53:40 | file | oh well |
| 19:57:19 | BWegh | file: just looked up strcmp and it returns zero when s1==s2 |
| 19:58:10 | file | curse you |
| 19:58:20 | BWegh | scanline: do you know where i can find the docu about the sa-1100 |
| 19:58:25 | scanline | no.... |
| 19:58:49 | BWegh | starts crying: i dont wanna pay for that docu!!!! |
| 20:00:01 | BWegh | thinks that i now might be the curse of file that i cant find the documentation |
| 20:00:37 | BWegh | how do you two use ur tuxscreen? |
| 20:01:35 | scanline | I use it mainly for porting software to ARM.. it's a good cheap development platform |
| 20:01:39 | file | I don't have a Tuxscreen |
| 20:01:51 | Tangent | BWegh: The doc is for free from intel's website |
| 20:02:46 | BWegh | Tangent: realy, i cant find it! the only thing i can find are white papers but i want the whole documentation of the Prozessor and the ARM Architecture |
| 20:03:43 | Tangent | Yeah.. I'm just looking now... |
| 20:03:54 | Tangent | I might still have a copy here somewhere if they've moved it |
| 20:05:51 | Tangent | Looks like they have moved it... |
| 20:06:07 | Tangent | The links I can find opinting to that page don't work anymore |
| 20:06:28 | BWegh | i know, tryed them from tuxscreen |
| 20:07:11 | BWegh | Tangent: would be nice if you would send me ur copy |
| 20:07:53 | Tangent | BWegh: Just trying to find it now |
| 20:07:58 | Tangent | no luck so far |
| 20:08:42 | BWegh | Tangent: thx anyway |
| 20:08:47 | Tangent | BWegh: http://atrak.usc.edu/~suif/ |
| 20:09:20 | BWegh | *g* |
| 20:09:26 | BWegh | :D |
| 20:14:19 | BWegh | the display needs 1.6 Watts |
| 20:15:19 | BWegh | and uses 3.3V => about 0.5A/x, what is x in this case? s or h? |
| 20:19:29 | BWegh | ups .... forget it!!! |
| 20:28:20 | BWegh | Tangent: i just read the documentations but i cant find the "ARM V4 Architecture Reference" :8 |
| 20:28:53 | file | bonjour prpplague |
| 20:29:09 | prpplague | file: que pasa |
| 20:34:27 | file | how's your work? hectic again? |
| 20:34:46 | prpplague | yep |
| 20:34:52 | prpplague | down system in jamaica |
| 20:35:00 | file | bah |
| 20:43:01 | scanline | waves to prpplague and kergoth |
| 20:43:09 | prpplague | howdy there scanline |
| 20:43:15 | prpplague | scanline: how goes the picogui |
| 20:43:17 | kergoth | re |
| 20:43:50 | prpplague | scanline: i've got to get with you on my forms project |
| 20:43:53 | scanline | prpplague: still working on the textbox widget |
| 21:55:20 | mallum | jacques_gone: are you really gone ? |
| 22:04:46 | scanline | tries to get an xterm/rxvt/something that supports UTF-8 and Japanese set up... |
| 22:28:19 | mallum | scanline: I have a xterm-utf8 with debian |
| 22:28:50 | scanline | I've got UTF-8 working now.. but I don't have the right font installed/selected to display Japanese text |
| 22:29:05 | scanline | For UTF-8 I just needed a -u8 command line switch |
| 22:32:51 | scanline | ah.. got it mostly working now |
| 22:33:21 | scanline | Yay.. I can finally test my UTF-8 encoder |
| 22:33:22 | scanline | and.. it works |
| 22:33:34 | AgWork | hi there guys... is there a ramdisk avalaible which includes microwindows? I'd like to play with it, and I can't play with buildroot just yet (I'm not home, and connected @33.3. Argh!!) |
| 22:34:05 | scanline | AgWork: there are pretty old ramdisks for microwindows and picogui on tuxscreen.net |
| 22:34:44 | Agarwal | hmm... will those ones will work with the newest blob? |
| 22:35:06 | scanline | probably |
| 22:35:25 | Agarwal | ok. Thanks! |
| 22:35:30 | Agarwal | gonna try that |
| 22:56:40 | Agarwal | seems a no go... All I can get is a "configured for kernel in ramdisk" |
| 22:58:09 | scanline | ah |
| 22:58:16 | scanline | forgot about that... |
| 22:59:53 | Agarwal | :( |
| 23:00:01 | Agarwal | any other hint? |
| 23:00:32 | Agarwal | someone should put up some kind of ramdisks |
| 23:00:35 | Agarwal | :) |
| 23:00:42 | Agarwal | ramdisks registry I mean |