| 00:00:26 | prpplague | andersee: by knowing the law |
| 00:00:54 | prpplague | andersee: by law they have to keep a written do-not-call policy |
| 00:00:55 | jacques | Russ|werk: cool so you might go? Are you in the Bay area? |
| 00:01:04 | prpplague | andersee: they have to keep a do not call list |
| 00:01:38 | prpplague | andersee: i've sued at&t before and won $2k |
| 00:02:57 | jacques | cool |
| 00:03:04 | jacques | i hate telemarketers |
| 00:03:42 | Russ|werk | jacques: no, I'm in pheonix |
| 00:03:57 | Russ|werk | jacques: I finially figured out what to do with the door to door people |
| 00:04:20 | prpplague | jacques: there is a pretty cool program for winblows that keeps track of the telemarketers when they call, and has a script for you ask the info and shows the appropriate law |
| 00:04:42 | Russ|werk | put up a warning sign "Warning: Anti-solicioter sprinkler system installed, solicitors *will* get wet" |
| 00:04:52 | prpplague | jacques: i'm running it under wine, but sometime down the road in my free time i hope to do it in fltk |
| 00:04:56 | Russ|werk | installing sprinklers and a button next to your door in optional |
| 00:05:40 | Russ|werk | I loud, high pitch squel could similarly be used on telemarkers, but likely to less effect, but a good amount of satisfaction |
| 00:05:52 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ek, what kind of person would try and do "door-to-door" in the heat of az? |
| 00:05:55 | Russ|werk | s/I/similarly/ |
| 00:06:05 | Russ|werk | prpplague: its done |
| 00:06:17 | Russ|werk | prpplague: the people who do the flyers do it at 4am though |
| 00:06:47 | jacques | lol :-) |
| 00:06:54 | file | rocks |
| 00:07:06 | file | I got meself a bare bones parsing framework! |
| 00:08:00 | prpplague | keep your fingers cross guys.... |
| 00:08:07 | prpplague | re-assemblies his ipaq |
| 00:09:12 | Russ|werk | oi, randomly flashing led's with jtag... |
| 00:17:10 | prpplague | hmm, looks like my lcd/ts cable is probably loose, darn |
| 02:01:48 | cpenguin_home | evening everybody |
| 02:07:58 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ! |
| 02:08:10 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hows it going? |
| 02:13:01 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: ssdd |
| 02:17:02 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: lol |
| 02:17:04 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: you gonna buy a X-Box and compete for the 100,000 prize? |
| 02:17:26 | prpplague | has been out of the loop lately |
| 02:17:35 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: is there a hack contest? |
| 02:17:39 | cpenguin_home | http://xbox-linux.sourceforge.net/articles.php?aid=1&sub=Press |
| 02:19:04 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, reckon its for real? |
| 02:20:18 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, thats about the only way i'd buy an x-box |
| 02:20:38 | prpplague | is away: playing legos with #1 son |
| 02:24:16 | jacques | hmm the "completely legal" clause seems impossible |
| 02:24:51 | cpenguin_home | thats what they said on /. |
| 02:24:56 | jacques | ah |
| 02:25:11 | cpenguin_home | but it seems that the main peple are in germany, so the legality is a bit less muddled |
| 02:25:54 | cpenguin_home | or more muddled, depending on your point of view |
| 02:30:42 | jacques | heh |
| 02:30:59 | jacques | ms is already shutting down mod chip makers |
| 02:31:09 | jacques | tho I guess they are within their rights there |
| 02:58:59 | prpplague | is back (gone 00:38:21) |
| 03:18:13 | cpenguin_home | hehe... got 6 bucks? Your can get yourself a hundred shares of Worldcom |
| 04:08:37 | jacques | lol |
| 04:09:06 | jacques | and what will my $6 be worth tomorrow? |
| 04:12:48 | cpenguin_home | it can't get much lower than .06 can it? |
| 04:12:54 | cpenguin_home | time to go to bed |
| 05:51:19 | ][N-Flux | is away: Bed... |
| 05:53:10 | mob_ | does any one have any idea abt wap enabled bluetooth mobile? |
| 05:53:10 | mob_ | ny 1 alive? |
| 06:18:54 | andersee | mob_: nope |
| 06:23:13 | mob_ | andersee: can you tell me some mobile related chat-site |
| 06:23:31 | andersee | not off the top of my head... |
| 06:30:42 | mob_ | i want to access wml page from WAP server runing on BT enabled PC and show it on BT enabled mobile |
| 06:34:14 | andersee | I want a few million dollars, a big house, and an exotic sports car |
| 06:34:48 | andersee | The #tuxscreen group isn't likely to help either of us... |
| 06:35:27 | andersee | If you want to know about the software on the tuxscreen phone, I can help you with that... |
| 06:36:59 | mob_ | andersee: i agree |
| 06:37:12 | mob_ | andersee: no one is caring even to respond |
| 06:37:16 | ntropy | BT? |
| 06:37:29 | mob_ | ntropy: bluetooth |
| 06:38:21 | ntropy | well, you are using a PC, why view wml? |
| 06:38:29 | ntropy | bluetooth links the PC and the phone |
| 06:38:37 | ntropy | then you can transfer whatever you want over that |
| 06:38:56 | mob_ | ntropy: yes |
| 06:39:06 | mob_ | ntropy: can you help me out |
| 06:39:17 | ntropy | with? |
| 06:40:08 | mob_ | can you tell me the model no. / make of such a mobile phone if you know |
| 06:40:48 | ntropy | umm, i know that the new erikkson phones work with it |
| 06:41:00 | ntropy | well, you just need a bluetooth enabled phone and PC |
| 06:41:03 | ntropy | thats about it |
| 06:41:13 | ntropy | they talk together no problem usuaslly |
| 06:41:22 | mob_ | tell me the ericsson model no. |
| 06:41:41 | ntropy | umm, i dont know it off hand |
| 06:41:49 | ntropy | check on their website, it says |
| 06:42:14 | Russ | mob_: no one was really answering because you are really in the wrong channel, way OT...so most people don't care |
| 06:42:41 | mob_ | Russ : finw |
| 06:42:45 | mob_ | Russ : fine |
| 06:49:10 | mob_ | Russ: do you have any idea abt the same? |
| 06:50:00 | Russ | never even seen WAP |
| 07:49:30 | Souslik | Hi everybody. |
| 07:50:31 | Souslik | I'm using blob-20020501a. I just see there is a bug in it. Can I safely upgrade from blob-20020501a to 20020601 ? |
| 12:39:46 | ][N-Flux | is away: winfax is pain in my hairy ass |
| 13:41:14 | Tangent | Does the 2.4.18 kernel that buildroot-tux makes currently actually work for anyone? |
| 13:41:18 | Tangent | It didn't for me |
| 14:08:02 | CosmicPenguin | Good morning |
| 14:08:12 | file | prpplague! |
| 14:08:28 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: you around? |
| 14:09:15 | prpplague | file: morning |
| 14:09:35 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: indeed sir I am :) |
| 14:09:35 | file | wishes Citygear would just fax him back gah dang it |
| 14:09:44 | Souslik | Hello, I just read about the bug in blob-20020501a. Can I safely upgrade from blob-20020501a to 20020601 ? |
| 14:13:46 | file | Souslik : I wouldn't know... I'm not a Tuxscreen user :( |
| 14:16:28 | file | hello? |
| 14:16:33 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: how attached are you to the old XML parser? |
| 14:17:06 | file | only 100 :( |
| 14:17:31 | CosmicPenguin | Souslik: you can upgrade, but read the warning in http://www.tuxscreen.net/download/v0.6/blob-20020621.txt |
| 14:17:34 | file | mmm |
| 14:17:40 | CosmicPenguin | Its very important |
| 14:18:16 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: not very ... |
| 14:18:51 | file | but somebody already bricked a Tuxscreen doing it wrong didn't they? |
| 14:19:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, had a crazy idea last night |
| 14:19:53 | file | had a dream people were after him and he had to run through the city of Halifax... |
| 14:20:01 | file | from woods to a circus... |
| 14:20:04 | Souslik | CosmicPenguin: I read it. Does it talk about jffs2 images or blob images? |
| 14:20:13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what do you think about some sort of Domain Specific Language to convert fltk gui's to qt/e ? |
| 14:22:12 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: you got to go ahead to gpl ypur parser ..... ? ;) |
| 14:23:28 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: no, I wrote a new one last night... :) |
| 14:23:53 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: but I was wondering if you had any features of your old one that you were attached to |
| 14:24:21 | file | CosmicPenguin : ooh |
| 14:24:49 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: nope, I guess I can just plug my simple dom into it ? |
| 14:25:02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I have always wanted to do that - I originally wrote my XML parser to have theming for FLTK - but I always liked the idea of toolkit independant description files |
| 14:25:39 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: as a side note, dont suppose it'll parse a document in chunks rather than all in one go ? |
| 14:25:53 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ie a document coming over a network stream for instance |
| 14:25:56 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: thats the plan. I assume that you have all the appropriate files in the matchbox source code? |
| 14:26:16 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 14:26:43 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: yeah, we can do one in chunks - Last night I assumed a steady stream, but I can make some changes |
| 14:27:01 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: where is you DOM in the source code? |
| 14:27:24 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: my only reasoning behind that, is one day Id like to write a little mini jabber server |
| 14:27:37 | file | I want to write a Jabber client for the Cybiko |
| 14:27:46 | file | once I finish my parsing framework, it shall be quite easy |
| 14:28:04 | file | anybody up for a game of Tetrinet? |
| 14:28:06 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I could always write a engine that reads from an network stream... :) |
| 14:29:03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: our STB GUI is totally based on a XML description file |
| 14:29:04 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: its the node_* callbacks in src/xml.c . Its a very simple dom, they just basically build a struct of linked structs |
| 14:29:10 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: thats what I do |
| 14:30:26 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: cool, mbtheme.c then just burrows down this struct passing the various node objects to various handlers |
| 14:31:11 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: it would not be too hard for me to plug that into yours |
| 14:31:37 | mallum | now wishes he wasn't lazy and wrote some wrapper funcs for manipulating the dom |
| 14:33:10 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: mine is a bit different - Instead of parsing everything first, I set up a series of callbacks for each tag, and call them as parsing is going on |
| 14:34:07 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ok cool |
| 14:34:30 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: when your happy with it , could you bung it over to me so I could take a peak ? |
| 14:34:46 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: the only limitation is that you need to store the tags ahead of time in an array, so that takes up some room |
| 14:35:27 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: yep - I need to change things over to use your variable style (XMLParser, etc...) and do some debug, and then you should be ready to go. |
| 14:35:38 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: cool :)) |
| 14:36:00 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I'll also hack at mbtheme.c so you can see how I envision the parsing |
| 14:36:11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: interesting idea |
| 14:36:19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ? |
| 14:36:39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: using xml description files |
| 14:36:47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: for the fltk gui |
| 14:37:00 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: sure, mbtheme.c sort of sprawled a little. One of my tasks before 0.4 is too clean that up a bit ... |
| 14:37:22 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: there are shots of 0.3pre4 here -> http://handhelds.org/scap/ BTW |
| 14:37:57 | BZFlag | -D option on tuxphone should have been updated to latest known working date, NOT removed. |
| 14:38:09 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: a future plan may be a DTD parser so we can change the DOM on the fly |
| 14:39:40 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yes. I've still to decide on the final DTD for the themes ... |
| 14:39:50 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: anyway, I'll get it working soon, and send it over to you - The parsers "cousin" has been good to me so far, so I am confident that you will like it |
| 14:40:00 | Souslik | I've read a lot of stuff about tuxphone. However on my phone, tuxphone is a daemon, so how can I see Caller ID,...??? |
| 14:40:05 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: cool :)) |
| 14:40:13 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: is it still pretty small ? |
| 14:41:19 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: the shared library is 8k |
| 14:41:49 | CosmicPenguin | with gcc, not uclibc... :) |
| 14:42:51 | CosmicPenguin | And I have a definitions file with all of the arrays and callbacks for about 35 tags, and thats only 25k |
| 14:43:40 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: woohoo ! |
| 14:44:15 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: thanks you very much for this BTW |
| 14:51:42 | file | hi sjhill |
| 14:53:17 | file | anybody up for Tetrinet? |
| 14:55:51 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: not a problem - I am glad to help |
| 14:56:46 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: hopefully someday, all the pieces will come together, and we can run matchbox on Microwindows as well |
| 14:56:50 | CosmicPenguin | The first multi platform window manager |
| 14:57:29 | CosmicPenguin | file: some of us have to work still... :( |
| 14:59:32 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: :)) |
| 15:23:57 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 8 hours, 48 minutes and 30 seconds ago, saying: If you want to know about the software on the tuxscreen phone, I can help you with that... [Tue Jul 2 07:35:27 2002] |
| 15:23:57 | sjhill | ibot: seen andersee |
| 15:23:59 | | andersen was last seen on #tuxscreen 20 hours, 19 minutes and 35 seconds ago, saying: sjhill: I spend a couple minutes looking at that dlopen problem. It happens on phoenix (my mips box) [Mon Jul 1 20:04:24 2002] |
| 15:23:59 | sjhill | ibot: seen andersen |
| 15:35:21 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: hows planet mips? |
| 15:36:17 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: not bad, i don't believe that andersee's script for building a native uclibc toolchain works |
| 15:36:29 | sjhill | it certainly doesn't for mips |
| 15:45:23 | Russ | hooray, andersee can stop pulling his hair out |
| 15:49:00 | sjhill | thank God i have a dual athlon for this stuff |
| 15:51:28 | Torawk|Wk | yeah.. I know others around here... |
| 15:51:40 | Torawk|Wk | err. wrong windows/os/computer.. :) |
| 16:53:50 | prpplague | sjhill: you make it back alive from the black thorn party? |
| 18:54:33 | Suran | hi |
| 18:57:14 | Russ|werk | hello |
| 19:01:36 | Suran | I'm having a problem with a badly discalibrated touchscreen on the tux. |
| 19:01:58 | sjhill | returns |
| 19:04:02 | Suran | Anyone know where I can find this x-touchscreen-calibration tool? |
| 19:04:32 | sjhill | laughs |
| 19:04:57 | Suran | ? |
| 19:05:10 | sjhill | Suran: i looked for that for a long time |
| 19:05:19 | Suran | oh, I see. |
| 19:06:28 | sjhill | Suran: i would try the linux-vr.org site and then agendacomputing.com site |
| 19:06:39 | Suran | Problem is my display-cable (between the vest, around my back to the display in hand) is somewhat longer and thus the touchscreen is _very_ disorganized. |
| 19:07:22 | sjhill | decides to take a break and go look for the code |
| 19:09:41 | Russ|werk | Suran: you try braiding with ground? |
| 19:10:11 | Russ|werk | I think the lines may be differntial, not sure, so braiding the pairs may help |
| 19:11:14 | Suran | I cannot try that, it's a flat 40pin wire for display+touchscreen. |
| 19:11:41 | Suran | Would not make much sense to have the resistive-touchscreen wires differential. |
| 19:12:01 | Suran | Or is it capacitive? |
| 19:12:55 | Russ|werk | i'm not sure, you might read the ucb1300 data sheet |
| 19:13:35 | Russ|werk | you may at least want to run a ground between each ts line in the ribbon cable |
| 19:15:41 | Suran | I thought about that but I have only 2 spare pins and the touchscreen's ones must be the outher 4 ones, else I would need to cut traces on the io-board when ataching the additional pin-headers. (I cut out 3mm of space and have [36pin][2][4pin-touchscreen]). |
| 19:16:13 | Suran | I got the spec, let's see.. |
| 19:17:04 | Russ|werk | you might want to run the ts in a seprate cable |
| 19:18:30 | Suran | That would be impractical, sorry. I have the boards in a vest and the display atached by one cable with a padded pouch for the display on the other side of the vest. |
| 19:19:13 | Suran | Signal looks to have a higher frequency, they oscilate between measuring x and y resistance. |
| 19:19:36 | Russ|werk | I'm confused, If you are already running the ribbon cable |
| 19:19:50 | Russ|werk | why can't you run twisted pair or something next to it |
| 19:20:28 | Suran | I would have to glue the 2 cables together as I have the display free in my hand and the cable would be very stiff then and hard to work with. |
| 19:20:37 | Suran | I already thouht about that. |
| 19:21:01 | Russ|werk | use braided copper twisted cable |
| 19:21:40 | Russ|werk | you might also consider using round ide cable for the lcd |
| 19:21:41 | Suran | Any chance to get one of these 80pin ATA66 cables with 50-60cm length and only one connector? |
| 19:21:48 | Russ|werk | it'd look cooler |
| 19:22:02 | Russ|werk | oh ya, you need em kinda long |
| 19:22:18 | Russ|werk | you can buy ribbon cable and ends seperately |
| 19:22:21 | Suran | I have looked at one but that's very thick and does not bend. Try running such a one around your back and sit down. ;) |
| 19:22:30 | Russ|werk | you just need to find someone with a crimper |
| 19:23:01 | Suran | I did make my own cable but dow do I get a 40pin-header onto an 80pin-cable the same width? |
| 19:23:08 | Russ|werk | but braided (instead of solid) copper in a twisted pair, if there are only 2 to 4 pairs should be pretty bendy |
| 19:24:10 | Suran | I could look into it tomorrow(night here). Maybe I can atach it next to the display-cable(on the edge) instead of on top of it. That meight work better. |
| 19:24:44 | Suran | But the touch-screen works. It's just too much to the lower right edge. |
| 19:26:19 | Russ|werk | ya, the kernel interface changed a while back, so calibration programs need to be rewritten |
| 19:26:23 | Russ|werk | rmk should have something though |
| 19:36:12 | Suran | Maybe I found sth. for calibration, lets see... |
| 19:44:26 | andersee | sjhill: morning. err. afternoo. |
| 19:45:04 | sjhill | andersee: hi |
| 19:45:31 | sjhill | andersee: i got a native uclibc mips toolchain working, but i had to change the Makefile |
| 19:45:48 | ntropy | hopefully my JTAG will come tomorrow, so i can get my phone working again |
| 19:46:01 | ntropy | so, the panic is a gcc3.1 problem eh? |
| 19:46:30 | andersee | sjhill: k. Patches for me? |
| 19:46:42 | sjhill | andersee: gimme' 10 minutes |
| 19:46:57 | andersee | sjhill: sure. |
| 20:01:02 | Russ|werk | ntropy: I'm not sure, but I don't get it, and adding debugging fixes it |
| 20:01:08 | Russ|werk | (I use 2.95.3) |
| 20:01:25 | ntropy | yeah, i see the messages on the list concerning it. |
| 20:01:29 | ntropy | er. i saw. |
| 20:01:38 | ntropy | Russ|werk: so, you arent using buildroot then? |
| 20:01:47 | Russ|werk | only from time to time |
| 20:02:00 | ntropy | ah |
| 20:12:00 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: helo |
| 20:12:03 | CosmicPenguin | hello even |
| 20:13:52 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: howdy |
| 20:18:13 | andersee | Howdy tim |
| 20:20:31 | BZFlag | see the modprobe patch? |
| 20:22:08 | andersee | BZFlag: yup. Reworked it a bit and committed. havn't had a chance to try it on the phone yet. |
| 20:23:37 | andersee | I'm glad someone found the bug... |
| 20:28:28 | BZFlag | me too. ;-) |
| 20:29:07 | CosmicPenguin | We just had a minor multicast storm on our network.... :) Kinda slowed things down for a bit |
| 21:34:55 | prpplague | BZFlag: i got my ipaq back together |
| 21:35:13 | prpplague | BZFlag: seems i dropped it saturday night at the black thorn |
| 21:37:40 | Harlekin | BZFlag: btw, got the 2 tuxscreens today |
| 21:37:44 | Harlekin | .-) |
| 21:52:20 | BZFlag | prpplague: ouch |
| 21:52:27 | BZFlag | Harlekin: cool |
| 21:52:35 | Harlekin | BZFlag: 2 month *g* |
| 21:53:00 | BZFlag | yowsers |
| 21:53:26 | Harlekin | so now we are gona redo the ac ..) |
| 22:10:04 | prpplague | BZFlag: turns out i just knock the battery micro connector out |
| 22:19:54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wb |
| 22:20:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: having network problems today? |
| 22:26:03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep |
| 22:26:44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm a bit worried that we're getting set up for a major DOS or hack attack |
| 22:28:58 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: oh? How so? |
| 22:29:27 | CosmicPenguin | lots of pings coming our way recently |
| 22:29:44 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: My box server rebooting all by itself yesterday. I thought (at first) I was being hacked. Turned out the power supply was overheating... |
| 22:30:05 | andersee | needs to proofread |
| 22:30:52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: argh, i don't know if i need to be mad or flattered... i've be ripped off! check this out http://www.icoptech.com/products_category.asp?CategoryID=8 |
| 22:31:15 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: all four of my design apparently are being produced in tawain under different names |
| 22:31:18 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: Yesterday, galeon started resizing itself wildy, when I switched to console to kill it, it brought down my system hard |
| 22:32:04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats your design? Completely ripped off? |
| 22:32:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 22:33:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we sent the designs overseas for some prototypes but never made them |
| 22:33:43 | andersee | prpplague: can't you sue them or something? |
| 22:34:03 | prpplague | andersee: not sure, but i'm going to talk the company lawers |
| 22:34:09 | prpplague | lawyers that is |
| 22:42:20 | prpplague | heads home |
| 22:53:05 | pattieja | is away: home |
| 22:57:20 | CosmicPenguin | now I am really rebooting for a new kernel version |
| 23:44:18 | jacques | prpplague: I've heard that about taiwan |
| 23:44:59 | jacques | how's buildroot these days? |
| 23:47:31 | prpplague | jacques: well on the way out the door, i talked to the vp of marketing, apparently the all four designs were sold to these guys, and no one told me |
| 23:48:19 | jacques | prpplague: that's a relief |
| 23:48:55 | jacques | prpplague: those are some cool looking devices |
| 23:49:10 | prpplague | jacques: all x86 stuff |
| 23:49:43 | prpplague | jacques: don't know if i'd every do x86 stuff again |
| 23:50:13 | prpplague | jacques: its a nightmare compared to arm |
| 23:51:27 | jacques | prpplague: tho I hear intel screwed up the elegance of arm with xscale |
| 23:51:37 | Tangent | Why doesn't that surprise me |
| 23:51:50 | Tangent | Hi |
| 23:52:19 | Tangent | jacques: buildroot built me a broken kernel last night |
| 23:52:24 | jacques | hi Tangent :-) |
| 23:52:28 | jacques | Tangent: d'oh |
| 23:52:37 | prpplague | jacques: well, i can't speak on experience, i'm usually not on the cutting edge of tech like the xscale |
| 23:53:07 | jacques | i hear the super long instruction pipeline is a problem |
| 23:53:24 | jacques | makes it hard to get good performance |
| 23:53:41 | prpplague | jacques: seems like i did hear rmk say something about that at OLS |
| 23:54:01 | jacques | and since nobody is implementing a wide memory bus and the memory bus is 100MHz... |
| 23:54:19 | jacques | memory moves are much slower than stringarm |
| 23:54:22 | jacques | strongarm |
| 23:54:47 | jacques | makes me sad |
| 23:57:03 | andersee | Tangent: buildroot works for me -- I fixed a few things about 20 min ago... |
| 23:57:20 | jacques | nice |
| 23:57:52 | andersee | Tangent: I think the kernel may still be broken though. |
| 23:58:03 | andersee | testing... |