| 00:11:06 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 00:52:41 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 11:36:05) |
| 00:56:46 | ntropy | X is all blue. |
| 00:56:50 | ntropy | whats up with that? |
| 00:59:15 | as_ | Not enough magnesium? |
| 01:01:47 | ntropy | could be |
| 01:01:52 | ntropy | maybe i should give it some happy pills |
| 01:05:11 | Russ|werk | ntropy: problem fixed? |
| 01:06:35 | ntropy | no |
| 01:06:44 | ntropy | it's still panics |
| 01:06:52 | ntropy | i tried the tinyx demo kernel and image |
| 01:06:58 | ntropy | though, the display is all blue |
| 01:07:04 | jacques | that's a known bug |
| 01:07:11 | ntropy | good |
| 01:07:12 | jacques | it happens when you start x from the console |
| 01:07:17 | ntropy | i was worried it was the lcd |
| 01:07:19 | ntropy | ahhh |
| 01:07:19 | ntropy | ok |
| 01:07:23 | jacques | if you start x from inittab it does not happen |
| 01:07:35 | jacques | also if you start from serial console it does not happen |
| 01:07:54 | ntropy | ahhh |
| 01:07:54 | ntropy | yep |
| 01:08:47 | ntropy | has anyone used buildroot recently? |
| 01:12:05 | jacques | i havent in over a week, maybe 2 |
| 01:12:16 | jacques | is it brokeded again? |
| 01:12:19 | ntropy | did it generate a valid kernel? |
| 01:12:28 | ntropy | well, the kernel it generated oopsed |
| 01:13:22 | jacques | i was only trying to build it - I did not actually try the binaries it generated |
| 01:13:29 | ntropy | hm. ok. |
| 01:22:28 | CosmicPenguin | starts a new build |
| 01:24:13 | CosmicPenguin | accidently typed make distclean... :( |
| 01:35:49 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm..... is anyone else annoyed that tuxphone uses AF_INET and not AF_UNIX? |
| 01:36:23 | as_ | I have no idea what that even means. |
| 01:43:44 | ntropy | CosmicPenguin: that does seem odd |
| 01:51:45 | Russ|werk | as_: its depreciated |
| 01:53:41 | as_ | I dont understand that word in this context. |
| 01:54:52 | as_ | I think Id probably need a lot explaining in order to know what it means. |
| 01:58:46 | Russ|werk | you aren't supposed to use AF_INET anymore, but its still supported, its old ond crufty |
| 01:58:54 | Russ|werk | its been replaced by AF_UNIX |
| 01:58:58 | Russ|werk | its depreciated |
| 01:59:21 | as_ | What does it do? |
| 02:00:12 | Russ|werk | its an argument for a call to socket(), specifing what kind of socket you want |
| 02:01:34 | as_ | I see. |
| 02:04:34 | ntropy | damn |
| 02:04:37 | ntropy | it's still oopsing |
| 02:07:13 | Russ|werk | ntropy: I need to get into my home machine and check the code |
| 02:07:30 | ntropy | k |
| 02:07:38 | ntropy | did you say that something was mixed around though? |
| 02:08:04 | ntropy | like setup was init was supposed to be called from setup |
| 02:08:07 | ntropy | er. |
| 02:08:26 | ntropy | setup->init, it's currently init->setup |
| 02:29:14 | Russ|werk | ? |
| 02:29:24 | Russ|werk | the backtrace looked normal to me |
| 02:29:41 | Russ|werk | I'd have to look at the source thoughh |
| 03:11:55 | ntropy | Russ|werk: oh, ok |
| 03:25:06 | ][N-Flux | is away: Eternal Darkness |
| 03:42:09 | ntropy | anyone around? |
| 04:13:25 | ntropy | so, is the screen always going to blink everytime there is traffic over the pcmcia slots? |
| 04:15:39 | CosmicPenguin | No - thats a known bug with a fix in the main tree - but for some reason it hasn't been included in the tuxscreen code yet |
| 04:23:34 | CosmicPenguin | time for sleepy |
| 04:24:01 | cpenguin_home-- | is away: Wait a second, whats that soun..... |
| 09:19:17 | CaCtus491 | Tim, you around? |
| 12:51:16 | ][N-Flux | is away: Work |
| 14:22:04 | prpplague_ols | mallum: ! |
| 14:22:31 | prpplague_ols | mallum: matchbox got a good plug yesterday from david woodhouse of the mtd group |
| 14:22:36 | file | prpplague_ols : how's ols? |
| 14:22:47 | prpplague_ols | file: great |
| 14:26:42 | mallum | prpplague_ols: uh ? |
| 14:26:50 | mallum | prpplague_ols: at ols ? |
| 14:27:14 | mallum | prpplague_ols: david woodhouse = dwmw2 ? ( red hat UK guy ? ) |
| 14:33:29 | prpplague_ols | mallum: ya that one |
| 14:35:09 | file | prpplague_ols : are you familiar with laws regarding mail? |
| 14:36:20 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 15:08:58) |
| 14:36:23 | prpplague_ols | file: not heavly, why did i violate a law somewhere? |
| 14:36:29 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: hey |
| 14:36:41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: hows Canada? |
| 14:36:47 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: great |
| 14:37:09 | file | no |
| 14:37:10 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: is pixil for the ipaq still dead? |
| 14:37:12 | file | I was just wondering |
| 14:37:18 | file | I can earn $5 comission on this paging service |
| 14:37:19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: thats good - isn't it something like 110 degrees in Texas today? Maybe you should stay up there... :) |
| 14:37:25 | file | commission |
| 14:37:29 | file | on every pager I sell... |
| 14:37:36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: why are you asking? Anything come up at OLS? :-) |
| 14:38:17 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: ya we had a conversation with the arm guys last night and also david woodhouse mentioned it in his embedded linux session |
| 14:38:28 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm....... |
| 14:38:57 | CosmicPenguin | Certainly not for its technical merits |
| 14:39:21 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: i think 4 or 5 ppl said they had tried pixil, but dwmw2 had never seen it |
| 14:39:24 | file | droolz |
| 14:39:27 | file | this Alero is sweet |
| 14:39:35 | file | remote start/lock/unlock and a cdp layer... |
| 14:39:38 | file | cd player |
| 14:40:00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: lets put it this way - if pixil is brought back, the only personal developing, supporting and fixing it would be /me |
| 14:40:25 | prpplague_ols | hmm |
| 14:40:39 | prpplague_ols | BZFlag: are you following this? |
| 14:41:47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: thats not to say that I don't love Pixil - because I do - but it was much easier when there were three or four people working on it |
| 14:42:21 | file | has anybody met sjhill at OLS yet?!?!?!? |
| 14:42:24 | mallum | prpplague_ols: did dmwm say good things ? |
| 14:43:11 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I downloaded the CVS version of Matchbox yesterday with the intent to start porting it to Microwindows..... :) |
| 14:43:12 | Sammy | bbl |
| 14:43:33 | prpplague_ols | mallum: ya he was swamped with questions about matchbox after the session |
| 14:43:53 | prpplague_ols | file: steve hill with the mtd group? |
| 14:44:01 | file | prpplague_ols : yeah I think |
| 14:44:14 | prpplague_ols | file: ya i met him yesterdat |
| 14:44:15 | prpplague_ols | y |
| 14:44:19 | file | prpplague_ols : he has Ninos... wondered if he showed them off |
| 14:45:09 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: shouldn't bee too hard, I happily help out |
| 14:45:18 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: CVS is quite stable at the moment |
| 14:46:04 | mallum | prpplague_ols: thats really cool :)), pity I wasn't there :( |
| 14:46:13 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: several ppl commented on the non-presence of century here at the conference |
| 14:46:30 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: there maybe something you can help me out with matchbox wise BTW ... |
| 14:46:47 | file | prpplague_ols : see anything interesting yet? |
| 14:46:53 | prpplague_ols | mallum: ya i had a big smile on my face when he started showing the slides |
| 14:47:45 | mallum | prpplague_ols: slides with matchbox on ? |
| 14:49:23 | prpplague_ols | mallum: ya he showed 4 slides with it running on ipaq |
| 14:50:35 | mallum | prpplague_ols: haha :) |
| 14:54:09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: Let everyone know that I am with them in spirit |
| 14:54:27 | file | hey sjhill |
| 14:54:40 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I will help you if I can... :) |
| 14:55:13 | sjhill_OLS_C | 'lo file |
| 14:55:28 | file | sjhill_OLS_C : how u doin'? |
| 14:55:46 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: the most frustrating thing about porting an X application is that I spent 3 months writing a complete X11 emulation library for microwindows - it could compiile QT straight with no modifications |
| 14:55:53 | CosmicPenguin | But my boss won't let us open up.... :( |
| 14:56:11 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: your mini xml parser is it GPL ? |
| 14:56:23 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Ummm..... Thats a great question |
| 14:56:44 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: matchbox CVS has an xml parser built in but its very flakey |
| 14:57:12 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I will have to go ask pretty please - but I'll bet the answer is no |
| 14:57:41 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: but I might be able to take a look at the matchbox parser and offer some suggestions... ;) |
| 14:57:54 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: np. But with your experience any help toughening it up would be greatly appreciated |
| 14:59:11 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I'll take a look at it |
| 14:59:23 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: cool its in src/xml.c |
| 15:00:00 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I may be able to hack xlib, but Im crap when it comes to writing parsers ;( |
| 15:00:52 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: you don't a validating parser or anything like that, right? |
| 15:01:31 | CosmicPenguin | (stick a "need" anywhere you want in that previous sentence) |
| 15:01:35 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: oh no, it only needs to be basic. Just segfualts at the moment if the xml is badly formed |
| 15:02:15 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I can use some setjump magic to get round that, its just sometimes it segfualts when the xml is ok and I havn't quite worked out why |
| 15:02:48 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: its event based like expat, but also builds a simple DOM |
| 15:03:02 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: Ok.... |
| 15:03:41 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I'll also ask my boss if he would consider releasing some of our lower level stuff under the LGPL - or maybe he will sign over the right to me. |
| 15:04:51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: anyone talking about FLTK at the conference? |
| 15:05:52 | prpplague_ | CosmicPenguin: not really, it seems more kernel based stuff |
| 15:06:09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_: ahh.... |
| 15:06:18 | sjhill_OLS_C | CosmicPenguin: nope |
| 15:06:23 | prpplague_ | CosmicPenguin: guess i'm about the only one discussing sqlite and gui dev |
| 15:06:25 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_: I really wish I could have gone |
| 15:07:11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_: I'm with you - I'm out to make sqlite and FLTK famous... :) |
| 15:27:15 | BZFlag | kergoth: yes, no r1 set from angel on the Z. |
| 15:27:48 | BZFlag | no detailed specs on the locomo here. as JasonNJ and see if he can get any. I'm still digging but not much progress. |
| 15:27:56 | | kergoth was last seen on #zaurus 4 minutes and 11 seconds ago, saying: i want tetrinet on my Z [Fri Jun 28 16:23:45 2002] |
| 15:27:56 | BZFlag | ibot: seen kergoth |
| 15:29:02 | file | is scared |
| 15:29:56 | prpplague_ols | file: hey, what were you saying about sjhill having something? |
| 15:30:08 | file | Philips Ninos, a PDA |
| 15:30:24 | prpplague_ols | file: ahh |
| 15:30:33 | prpplague_ols | file: i'll have to ask about it |
| 15:47:09 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: the Nino is based on the TX3912 - a MIPs processor - same as the Helio, I believe |
| 15:47:28 | CosmicPenguin | has nightmares about working with TX3912 processors |
| 15:48:06 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: ahh, ya MIPtS is something i'm not worked with other than the vr3 and i didn't have a good time |
| 15:49:04 | sjhill_OLS_C | pokes prpplague_ols at the end of the table |
| 16:02:34 | CosmicPenguin | is building Skipstone for Nano-GTK |
| 16:05:32 | prpplague_ols | goes to lunch |
| 18:38:32 | file | prpplague_ols : wb |
| 18:38:44 | prpplague_ols | thanks |
| 19:00:24 | ntropy | does anyone have buildroot working? |
| 19:03:16 | CosmicPenguin | worked last night for me |
| 19:04:08 | ntropy | did you try the kernel and image it built? |
| 19:11:00 | prpplague_ols | CosmicPenguin: have you talked to you boss about the fltk/sqlite classes yet? |
| 19:24:18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague_ols: he's thinking about it |
| 19:25:56 | ntropy | CosmicPenguin: did you try the image that buildroot created? |
| 19:38:27 | CosmicPenguin | ntropy: yep |
| 19:45:34 | ntropy | CosmicPenguin: hm. |
| 19:45:45 | ntropy | CosmicPenguin: cause mine kernel panics |
| 20:05:41 | CosmicPenguin | ntropy: is your box modded in any way? |
| 20:07:46 | ntropy | no |
| 20:07:54 | ntropy | i only got it 2 days ago |
| 20:10:20 | Russ|werk | ntropy: sorry, I didn't get to looking at that code |
| 20:10:25 | Russ|werk | does it always oops in the same place? |
| 20:10:57 | ntropy | yes |
| 20:50:32 | kergoth | re BZFlagOLS |
| 21:02:17 | ntropy | eerm. |
| 21:27:47 | bl00mie | i came here a few days ago, and someone recomended that a problem i'm having with my tuxscreen could perhaps be fixed by using the latest blob |
| 21:28:05 | bl00mie | to download and flash a new kernel |
| 21:28:20 | bl00mie | can anyone tell me how to re-blob using blob? |
| 21:29:12 | bl00mie | and perhaps where to get the latest version of blob? |
| 21:34:55 | bl00mie | ok, so i fixed my stupidity by asking blob for help, |
| 21:35:06 | bl00mie | can blob handle larger blobs than 32 k? |
| 21:36:23 | bl00mie | lively crowd |
| 21:36:26 | bl00mie | : ) |
| 21:36:41 | file | can't... stop... hiccuping |
| 21:38:01 | bl00mie | the downloads page at tuxscreen.net seems to be broken |
| 21:41:24 | file | I should go |
| 21:47:26 | bl00mie | does anyone know if blob can handle new blobs that are larger than 32k? |