| 00:39:51 | CosmicPenguin-- | is away: I'm at home - Talk to cpenguin_home |
| 00:52:33 | cpenguin_home | is back (gone 04:23:24) |
| 00:56:56 | sjohnson | Got a quick hardware question. Is the serail port on the DB-9 port a DTE or DCE configuration? |
| 01:09:52 | Austin | DTE -- you'll need a null-modem cable to connect it to a PC. |
| 01:19:28 | Sammy | morining all ~ |
| 01:37:04 | sjohnson | Austin: Just got back from the store. Thanks. |
| 01:45:11 | Austin | NP. =) |
| 01:57:58 | ntropy | BZFlagOLS: got a question for ya |
| 01:58:16 | ntropy | BZFlagOLS: with blob installed, does the lcd show anything? |
| 01:58:24 | BZFlagOLS | no. |
| 01:58:29 | BZFlagOLS | just the serial port. |
| 01:58:30 | ntropy | k, good. |
| 01:58:41 | ntropy | hm. i'm not getting any data over the serial port though |
| 01:59:05 | BZFlagOLS | there was a version of the bootloader with display code in it. that's the old dead blob in the tuxscreen cvs tree. |
| 01:59:30 | ntropy | well, i dont want an old version, i want to keep the version you installed for me |
| 01:59:40 | BZFlagOLS | that code could be ported forward if it was made optional. also Russ has an lcd patch that should work off current blob. |
| 01:59:51 | ntropy | oh, i just thought of something. |
| 01:59:54 | BZFlagOLS | you have the serial port working yet? |
| 01:59:56 | ntropy | do i need a null modem adapter? |
| 01:59:59 | BZFlagOLS | yes. |
| 02:00:08 | ntropy | ah, see. i knew it was something |
| 02:00:16 | BZFlagOLS | just pin 2+3 plus ground should do. no hardware flow control. |
| 02:00:23 | ntropy | k |
| 02:00:25 | BZFlagOLS | that version wants 115200 n81 |
| 02:00:34 | ntropy | i wonder if i have a null modem adapter around here... |
| 02:01:13 | ntropy | hm. 2 gender changers... |
| 02:03:09 | ntropy | damn, hm. |
| 02:03:16 | ntropy | i guess i could just cut open the cable |
| 02:04:11 | ntropy | BZFlagOLS: hows OLS btw? |
| 02:12:15 | BZFlagOLS | fine. the Linux Movie put on by AMD tonight was pretty cool. |
| 02:12:30 | BZFlagOLS | not correct in places, but hey it was mostly right. |
| 02:16:19 | jacques | heh |
| 02:16:22 | jacques | better than most then |
| 03:10:50 | sjohnson | Anyone around? |
| 03:32:23 | sjohnson | Anyone around?? |
| 03:33:12 | sjohnson | ?msg ibot seen austin |
| 03:33:49 | | austin was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 48 minutes and 38 seconds ago, saying: NP. =) [Thu Jun 27 02:45:11 2002] |
| 03:33:49 | cpenguin_home | ibot: seen austin? |
| 03:33:59 | cpenguin_home | is away: Watching TV |
| 03:43:49 | sjohnson | Anyone around. I've got a question for loading blob into flash. |
| 03:50:13 | cpenguin_home | is back (gone 00:16:14) |
| 03:50:19 | cpenguin_home | Man, it is hot |
| 03:52:03 | sjohnson | cpenguin_home: Know anything about how log the blob takes to write into flash after the upload. My infero session seems to be hung. |
| 04:11:06 | jacques | sjohnson: you are flashing blob for the first time? |
| 04:11:33 | | jacques: (KSJC) 37-21-33N 121-55-27W 25M; Conditions at; last updated: Conditions at; Dew Point: 55.9 F (13.3 C); Pressure (altimeter): 30 in. Hg (1015 hPa); Relative Humidity: 86%; Sky conditions: partly cloudy; Temperature: 60.1 F (15.6 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the N (360 degrees) at 10 MPH (9 KT) gusting to 18 MPH (16 KT) |
| 04:11:33 | jacques | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 04:28:43 | sjohnson | jacques: yes. repacing sboot with blob |
| 04:30:07 | jacques | sjohnson: what's the last thing it printed on your terminal? |
| 04:30:40 | sjohnson | ...erasing flash (0-7fff) or there abouts |
| 04:32:52 | jacques | hmmm |
| 04:33:04 | jacques | there should be more than that |
| 04:33:26 | jacques | the reason I asked is because it ends rather abruptly with something that looks like an error |
| 04:33:35 | jacques | but that's not it |
| 04:33:47 | sjohnson | No it's just stuck there. |
| 04:33:49 | jacques | is there anything displaying on the tux screen? |
| 04:35:15 | sjohnson | Just the usual stuff it prints wen it does it debug mode. And the progress bar at the botton. |
| 04:36:34 | jacques | :-\ |
| 04:37:05 | jacques | is this the first one you've flashed? have you used this setup computer/terminal prog/cable before? |
| 04:37:35 | sjohnson | jacques: Well no. it's a new computer system and a new data xfter cable |
| 04:38:31 | jacques | sjohnson: I'm really just guessing at this point. Unfortunately the gurus seem to be asleep ATM |
| 04:38:59 | jacques | sjohnson: how did the flash unlock go? did you use the terminal to give those commands? |
| 04:40:00 | sjohnson | jacques: I got the Flash pre-unlocked. I don't link to mess with hardward if I can avoid it. |
| 04:40:44 | jacques | sjohnson: do you have any indication that your terminal connection is working correctly? |
| 04:41:02 | jacques | sjohnson: you have all flow control disabled right? hard and soft off? |
| 04:41:34 | sjohnson | Sort of. rdp communicates the with tuxscreen OKm but not at 115200. |
| 04:41:55 | jacques | rdp ? |
| 04:42:03 | sjohnson | flow control under inferno? don't know. |
| 04:42:39 | jacques | heh right, I forgot you were still using the inferno emu |
| 04:43:35 | jacques | sorry, you should not have to do anything to turn off flow control in inferno |
| 04:47:29 | sjohnson | I think I'm going to be glad I bought a JTAG dongle |
| 04:52:23 | jacques | :-\ |
| 04:52:30 | sjohnson | jacques: the JTAG interface be used while the CPU disembled of does it need to be assembled and connect to a power source? |
| 04:52:45 | sjohnson | s/the/Can the/ |
| 04:54:16 | jacques | sjohnson: I don't know |
| 04:54:20 | andersee | sjohnson: if you are asking what I think you are asking -- no, the JTAG cable does not supply power. The phone must be plugged in. |
| 04:54:28 | jacques | hi andersee :-) |
| 04:54:47 | jacques | andersee: do you have any ideas about sjohnson's blob flash? |
| 04:55:21 | andersee | hi jacques |
| 04:55:36 | andersee | Lemme read the history for a sec... |
| 04:57:26 | andersee | Hmm. No idea. I've never flash unlocked a phone. Tim and I flash-unlocked mine together (mine was the first he sold and at the time I was working at the cubible next to his).... |
| 04:58:44 | jacques | andersee: sjohnson bought a phone alrady unlocked, he is trying to flash blob now but it hung |
| 04:58:50 | sjohnson | andersee: The TexScreen was already unlocked. I was using inferno to load the blob bootldr. |
| 05:00:44 | andersee | I never used inferno to flash blob I'm afraid. I used JTAG. |
| 05:01:21 | andersee | didn't wanted to screw around with inferno as little as possible |
| 05:01:47 | andersee | One Tim and I got it flash unlocked, I used JTAG to flash blob into place |
| 05:01:54 | andersee | s/One/Once/ |
| 05:04:44 | andersee | As I recall there is a page or two in the wiki about how to use inferno to flash blob... |
| 05:06:51 | sjohnson | andersee: I was following them. Everyting was going fine until the apparent lock up after the loading blob |
| 05:07:32 | sjohnson | andersee: May you can answer question. Does the motherboard have to be assembled to use JTAG? |
| 05:08:36 | sjohnson | it's gett late. I'm starting to drop character again.., :) |
| 05:10:37 | andersee | You do need to solder on a connector to use JTAG |
| 05:11:43 | andersee | sjohnson: Sounds to me like sboot has gotten wedged. As I recall, there is an escape sequence needed to get sboot unwedged. You might want to check the wiki on that one. I recall this happening to others.... |
| 05:11:54 | sjohnson | But do I need AC power connected to motherboard to program the flash, or will power though JTAG interface be enough |
| 05:12:17 | andersee | And they also thought their phone was bricked, and Tim explained some sortof escape sequence, and all was well... |
| 05:12:39 | andersee | sjohnson: you need the phone plugged in. JTAG does not provide any power at all. |
| 05:14:04 | sjohnson | andersee: OK Thanks. |
| 05:18:34 | sjohnson | andersee: I'm not sure that sboot has survived. Inferno got through the copy sequence as far as '...erasin flash...' |
| 05:21:33 | sjohnson | jacques: You still around? |
| 05:23:12 | andersee | sjohnson: Well, its certainly possible that its been bricked. Got jtag? |
| 05:23:31 | cpenguin_asleep | is away: Off to sleep |
| 05:24:46 | sjohnson | andersee: I got the JTAG dongle. I'll have to go shopping for the connectors and cable tomorrow. |
| 05:25:09 | sjohnson | Man I've haven't done anyting that low level in over 20 years. :) |
| 11:50:57 | bl00mie | anybody know (off hand) the command to copy and flash a new blob using blob? |
| 13:16:30 | cpenguin_home-- | is back (gone 07:53:01) |
| 13:16:38 | cpenguin_home-- | is away: I'm at work - talk to CosmicPenguin |
| 13:58:35 | CosmicPenguin-- | is back (gone 13:18:42) |
| 15:44:53 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 10 hours, 21 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: sjohnson: Well, its certainly possible that its been bricked. Got jtag? [Thu Jun 27 06:23:12 2002] |
| 15:44:53 | sjhill | ibot: seen andersee |
| 15:50:11 | BZFlagOLS | sjhill: weren't you planning on bringing some hardware here for us to play with? |
| 15:51:15 | sjhill | BZFlagOLS: uh uh uh...like what ? :) |
| 15:53:06 | BZFlagOLS | well anything would do. hardware is always fun. ;-) I brought a Z (was hoping to bring a vercel =( ) |
| 15:53:43 | sjhill | ah, my settop boxes are cool, but i would need to lug along a tv to show anything |
| 15:56:54 | CaCtus491 | hey guys, |
| 15:57:22 | CaCtus491 | What sort of audio capabilities does the TuxScreen have? |
| 15:59:04 | BZFlagOLS | surely we could find a tv someplace. I'd volunteer my hotel room if needed. |
| 15:59:44 | sjhill | ah..duh i should have thought of that :) ... next time i promise |
| 16:00:44 | BZFlagOLS | CaCtus491: ucb1200 (actually a 1300 iirc) |
| 16:01:25 | BZFlagOLS | though a shanip board is required to do VoIP stuff as the telco interface is not fully supported/routed |
| 16:02:28 | CaCtus491 | hmm, details of all this on the Wiki? |
| 16:03:19 | BZFlagOLS | http://www.tuxscreen.net/wiki/view/ScheMatics |
| 16:04:36 | ntropy | BZFlagOLS: where is the code for interfacing with the ucb1200? |
| 16:05:43 | sjhill | ntropy: it's in a couple of places, both arm and mips trees have it |
| 16:05:53 | BZFlagOLS | sjhill: ols chatter in #OLS |
| 16:05:55 | ntropy | sjhill: ok, but where? |
| 16:06:30 | BZFlagOLS | ntropy: there is a ucb driver in the kernel source. Are you asking what file? |
| 16:06:34 | ntropy | yeah |
| 16:06:42 | sjhill | ntropy: in the arm tree, it's in 'drivers/misc' |
| 16:06:43 | ntropy | it's not in telephony |
| 16:07:13 | ntropy | ah |
| 16:07:19 | ntropy | it's not really in the arm tree |
| 16:07:24 | ntropy | it's in the generic drivers/ dir |
| 16:07:40 | ntropy | but i've found it none the less |
| 16:07:50 | sjhill | ntropy: for mips, you have to get the tree from 'linux-vr.org' and i think it's in the 'drivers/char' or 'arch/mips/vr41xx' |
| 16:07:56 | sjhill | ntropy: cool |
| 16:08:26 | ntropy | k |
| 16:08:39 | ntropy | i'm thinking of porting the ucb driver into the telephony soon |
| 18:02:21 | wasim | good evening |
| 18:30:16 | sjohnson | Greetings. I have a situation where I hope I havn't bricked a TuxScreen. |
| 18:30:53 | Torawk|Wk | there's always the jtag thing if you did.. :) |
| 18:31:28 | sjohnson | Torawk|Wk: I know I ordered the dongle but I hop I don't have to. |
| 18:31:55 | Torawk|Wk | I haven't received my phones yet so I wouldn't be much help... |
| 18:32:04 | file | crys |
| 18:32:22 | file | sjohnson : What did you do? |
| 18:32:34 | sjhill | kills the nino work |
| 18:32:39 | file | crys |
| 18:32:44 | sjohnson | I used inferno to load blob, but inferno look like it hung after printing 'erasing flash (0-x7fff)' I waited over 40 minutes. |
| 18:32:47 | file | not the Nino work! |
| 18:32:57 | file | sjohnson : uh oh |
| 18:33:13 | sjohnson | Then I removed and restored power, switched to minicom and now nothing. |
| 18:33:53 | file | sjhill : the Nino work must live!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:35:39 | sjohnson | Is there any hope at all, or do I need to revert to JTAG |
| 18:36:40 | file | Unknown. |
| 18:37:27 | Russ|werk | sjohnson: bzflag has some inferno escape sequence that might be of help |
| 18:38:53 | sjohnson | And he just left. :-P |
| 19:19:03 | ntropy | well crap |
| 19:19:10 | ntropy | my first tux kernel and it paniced |
| 19:27:41 | Russ|werk | did you get a backtrace? |
| 19:28:37 | ntropy | no, but i've still got the kernel, i'll get the bt later |
| 20:53:46 | ][N-Flux | is away: booting into gnome2 |
| 20:58:48 | CosmicPenguin | ][N-Flux: It must have worked |
| 21:01:09 | ][N-Flux | CosmicPenguin: indeed :) |
| 21:01:29 | ][N-Flux | gnome2=nice |
| 21:59:03 | Morn | hi all |
| 22:17:31 | Russ|werk | wb Morn |
| 22:18:14 | file | mmm? |
| 22:51:12 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: how was the show? |
| 23:04:58 | Hiraghm | waves near everyone |
| 23:05:04 | Hiraghm | anybody home? |
| 23:05:22 | Hiraghm | http://www.go64.de/english/frames/frame.htm |
| 23:14:41 | Russ|werk | what about it? |
| 23:17:10 | Hiraghm | read about the commodore one |
| 23:17:16 | Hiraghm | that big link |
| 23:19:02 | Hiraghm | http://www.go64.de/english/frames/commodoreone.html |
| 23:19:02 | Morn | sorry about that CosmicPenguin |
| 23:19:07 | Hiraghm | waves near Morn |
| 23:19:10 | Morn | my desktop shut down from heat |
| 23:19:14 | Morn | hi Hiraghm |
| 23:19:31 | Russ|werk | Morn: new mexico? |
| 23:19:45 | Morn | Russ|werk: No, CT |
| 23:19:56 | Morn | but my cpu's were running at nearly 180 degrees |
| 23:20:05 | ntropy | Russ|werk: you there? |
| 23:20:18 | Russ|werk | leave a cpu out in the sun here, and it will run at 140 when its off |
| 23:20:30 | Russ|werk | ntropy: ya |
| 23:20:43 | ntropy | so, i've got the bt from the panic |
| 23:20:59 | Russ|werk | easiest way to trace it is to grep system.map |
| 23:21:23 | ntropy | mm. so, restore a kernel that will boot, then look? |
| 23:21:29 | ntropy | because it's dead right now |
| 23:21:32 | Russ|werk | unless you have a bunch of ksymoops scripts setup |
| 23:21:39 | Morn | my computer runs so flakey when the temp goes up |
| 23:21:44 | Morn | I really need better fans |
| 23:21:51 | Russ|werk | well, you get the oops on the serial console, right? |
| 23:21:57 | ntropy | yep |
| 23:22:12 | Russ|werk | and you have the System.map for that kernel, right? |
| 23:22:24 | ntropy | i believe so, yes. |
| 23:22:26 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Get one of those water cooled heatsinks... :) |
| 23:22:31 | Russ|werk | thats all you need |
| 23:22:37 | Hiraghm | anyone up to walking me through the cross-compiler setup for the tux this evening? 8c) |
| 23:22:39 | Russ|werk | the part where it says: |
| 23:22:45 | ntropy | ok, so what do i grep for? |
| 23:22:54 | Hiraghm | (last try didn't work, and I've been fafiated ever since) |
| 23:23:13 | ntropy | that first 'Function entered at' ? |
| 23:23:17 | Russ|werk | the Function [<c021412>] entered at [<c0a39bba>] part |
| 23:23:20 | ntropy | just grep for it's offset eh? |
| 23:23:22 | Russ|werk | you do |
| 23:23:29 | Russ|werk | grep c021412 System.map |
| 23:23:34 | ntropy | k |
| 23:24:03 | ntropy | c00ab188 t sa1100fb_setcolreg |
| 23:24:14 | Russ|werk | ntropy: is that the one at the top? |
| 23:24:18 | ntropy | yep |
| 23:24:25 | Russ|werk | keep going |
| 23:25:27 | ntropy | actually, i need the last one, right? |
| 23:25:31 | ntropy | because thats is where it oopsed |
| 23:25:39 | ntropy | or is that the top one, like i thought |
| 23:25:42 | Russ|werk | the first one is where it oopsed |
| 23:25:53 | ntropy | k, thats what i thought |
| 23:25:58 | ntropy | c00a6a6c T fb_set_cmap |
| 23:26:04 | ntropy | c00ab3a0 t sa1100fb_hw_set_var |
| 23:26:51 | Russ|werk | keep going |
| 23:26:58 | ntropy | c00ab894 t sa1100fb_switch |
| 23:27:03 | ntropy | c00a9840 t fbcon_switch |
| 23:27:21 | cpenguinwork-- | is away: I'm at home |
| 23:27:56 | ntropy | c00a743c t fbcon_setup |
| 23:28:06 | ntropy | there we go |
| 23:28:11 | ntropy | in fbcon_setup |
| 23:28:34 | Russ|werk | its in reverse order |
| 23:28:47 | Russ|werk | so fbcon_setup called fbcon_switch and so on |
| 23:28:54 | Russ|werk | which kernel is this anyway? |
| 23:30:27 | ntropy | i build it from buildroot |
| 23:31:21 | Russ|werk | what does the full "Linux version" line say |
| 23:31:59 | Russ|werk | (the first line the kernel prints) |
| 23:32:24 | ntropy | c00ab188 t sa1100fb_setcolreg |
| 23:32:24 | ntropy | c00a6a6c T fb_set_cmap |
| 23:32:24 | ntropy | c00ab3a0 t sa1100fb_hw_set_var |
| 23:32:24 | ntropy | c00ab438 t sa1100fb_set_var |
| 23:32:24 | ntropy | c00ab894 t sa1100fb_switch |
| 23:32:26 | ntropy | c00a9840 t fbcon_switch |
| 23:32:29 | ntropy | c008edc4 T redraw_screen |
| 23:32:31 | ntropy | c00a743c t fbcon_setup |
| 23:32:34 | ntropy | c00a728c t fbcon_init |
| 23:32:37 | ntropy | c008ef70 t visual_init |
| 23:32:39 | ntropy | c0093144 T take_over_console |
| 23:32:42 | ntropy | c00a6280 T register_framebuffer |
| 23:32:44 | ntropy | c0010ad8 T sa1100fb_init |
| 23:32:47 | ntropy | c000febc T fbmem_init |
| 23:32:49 | ntropy | c000df48 T chr_dev_init |
| 23:32:52 | ntropy | c000885c t do_initcalls |
| 23:32:54 | ntropy | c0017050 t init |
| 23:32:57 | ntropy | there we go. thats the whole bt. i just wrote a quick perl script to do it. |
| 23:33:04 | kergoth | ack, #flood exists for a reason |
| 23:33:17 | ntropy | 2.4.18-rmk7-tux1 |
| 23:33:23 | ntropy | kergoth: ;P |
| 23:33:25 | Russ|werk | thats ok, nothing else going on in here, suppose it screws you up if you have bitchx |
| 23:33:29 | Russ|werk | ntropy: the whole line |
| 23:33:46 | ntropy | Linux version 2.4.18-rmk7-tux1 (ntropy@shadow.fallingsnow.net) (gcc version 3.12 |
| 23:38:12 | Russ|werk | I've never testing on gcc 3.1 |
| 23:38:23 | Russ|werk | lemme take a quick look at the source |
| 23:40:10 | ntropy | well, buildroot creates the gcc |
| 23:41:33 | Russ|werk | having some network trouble... |