| 00:26:42 | prpplague | as_: evening |
| 00:26:54 | prpplague | as_: anything interesting going on today? |
| 00:32:43 | as_ | Nothing Ive seen so far. |
| 00:32:59 | as_ | I'm in win2k now so quite a few programs dont work anymore which is a pain. |
| 00:34:05 | as_ | Oddly enough my pmode DOS programs do work, and some windows ones which also use the lpt port abort with an error log. |
| 00:34:20 | as_ | Except I dont know where the error logs are kept. |
| 00:35:57 | prpplague | as_: ewww winblows |
| 00:36:09 | as_ | Fraid so :/ |
| 00:36:13 | prpplague | as_: i'll be winblows free for 4 years in july |
| 00:36:34 | as_ | Hmm, so thats what you do at linux user meetings. |
| 00:36:50 | as_ | Hi my names prp and IVe been windows free for 4 years. |
| 00:36:58 | prpplague | lol, yep |
| 00:37:07 | as_ | (Group claps next person stands up). |
| 00:40:46 | Austin | was born Windows free. |
| 00:40:49 | Austin | A true child of Zion. ;) |
| 00:41:17 | as_ | If you have a birthmark the shape of a penguin your the next true king. |
| 00:41:55 | Austin | It actually resembles a number of interlinked circles. |
| 00:42:08 | Austin | (Bonus points for anyone who gets that.) |
| 00:42:36 | as_ | Went right over my head. |
| 00:42:55 | TomW | witchblade? |
| 00:42:57 | Austin | That's OK -- I didn't expect anybody to. =) |
| 00:43:04 | Austin | Tom: err, no. =) |
| 00:43:51 | TomW | I just picked up one of those tiny ITX machines today. |
| 00:43:56 | Austin | Oh? |
| 00:44:30 | TomW | I bought the stuff seperately: case, MB, etc. |
| 00:45:08 | TomW | the MotherBoard is an EPIA with a VIA chipset. Everything on the MB and one extra PCI slot. |
| 00:45:18 | Austin | Processor? |
| 00:45:20 | TomW | Mandrake 8.2 installed flawlessly! |
| 00:45:37 | TomW | Processor is an 800MHz VIA cpu |
| 00:45:41 | Austin | Ahh. |
| 00:45:43 | Austin | Nice. |
| 00:45:47 | TomW | Via EZRA? |
| 00:46:41 | TomW | $400 for a cube case, 800MHz board, 128Meg SDRAM (133), and a 40Gig Maxtor ATA-100. |
| 00:47:19 | TomW | I stuck an old 3C590 card into it and that filled the one slot. |
| 00:47:59 | TomW | The MB has a via-rhine ethernet and Mandrake found it. Mandrake found everything, even the sound. |
| 00:49:05 | TomW | The only downside is that the intake for the case air supply is from the bottom of the case, so I cannot put it directly on the carpet. |
| 00:49:36 | TomW | nice little machine! |
| 00:51:04 | Austin | =) |
| 00:51:50 | Austin | wonders why the ide-cs module doesn't seem to like his cards. |
| 00:52:02 | Austin | wonders why his unit freezes when he inserts a card into the bottom slot. |
| 00:52:17 | TomW | I wonder what class of CPU the Via Ezra is to compile the kernel for? |
| 00:52:22 | TomW | Celeron? |
| 00:52:55 | Austin | Search me. =) |
| 00:53:29 | Austin | Other random irks: ash doesn't source /etc/profile when spawned by rxvt, for some reason or another. |
| 00:54:12 | Austin | Unless it doesn't by default anyway, and it's being sourced during startup. |
| 00:54:20 | Austin | (For the console.) |
| 00:55:12 | Austin | ...doesn't look like it, no. |
| 00:57:38 | Morn | hi all |
| 00:58:15 | prpplague | Morn: howdy |
| 00:58:20 | prpplague | Morn: hows life? |
| 00:58:28 | prpplague | Morn: broke any phones lately? |
| 00:58:35 | Morn | I left part of my body on a Manhattan street today |
| 00:58:45 | Morn | I was riding bike and flipped over the handlebars |
| 00:59:18 | prpplague | Morn: hope it wasn't a part you needed, lol |
| 00:59:50 | prpplague | Morn: what are you doing in Manhattan? |
| 01:00:58 | file | waves to prpplague |
| 01:01:03 | file | I survived Nova Scotia |
| 01:01:13 | Austin | Hey Morn... urk. |
| 01:03:44 | Morn | Ack |
| 01:04:05 | Morn | It hurt a lot, we biked all over Manhattan |
| 01:04:38 | Morn | rode past the world trade center (or what was the WTC) |
| 01:04:58 | Morn | visited the carrier that is doced there |
| 02:12:11 | scanline | is back (gone 07:42:40) |
| 02:52:07 | ][N-Flux | is away: Sleep, is for the weak....guess I'm weak |
| 07:00:54 | andersee | morning all |
| 12:43:03 | Morn | is back (gone 33:55:44) |
| 13:01:55 | Morn | is away: cleaning up... |
| 14:14:08 | file | hello |
| 14:26:48 | file | ehllo CosmicPenguin |
| 14:26:52 | CosmicPenguin | file: hello |
| 14:26:53 | file | hello |
| 15:28:40 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: did you just leave yourself booted in, or are you providing us realtime news from Canada? |
| 16:28:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: negative, don't leave till the morning |
| 16:28:33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: however i got one of those "tooth" cell phone installed with a head cam |
| 16:29:02 | file | waves to prpplague |
| 16:30:35 | prpplague | hide from file |
| 16:32:00 | file | prpplague : status? |
| 16:33:43 | file | pokes prpplague |
| 16:35:06 | file | pokes prpplague yet again |
| 16:38:36 | CosmicPenguin | wishes he could go to OLS |
| 16:39:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yo must not be doing enough ass kissin |
| 16:44:15 | file | prpplague, bah |
| 16:46:19 | prpplague | goes into "file stealth mode" |
| 16:47:20 | file | help... me... |
| 16:47:52 | scanline | is away: need to vacuum... |
| 17:18:04 | scanline | is back (gone 00:30:12) |
| 17:56:42 | prpplague | doh, fudged my lilo |
| 17:59:23 | andersee | Poor lilo has been fudged |
| 18:00:29 | prpplague | lo, thats ok, i have a "de-fudging" procedure |
| 18:01:58 | andersee | keeps a grub boot floppy for when his system gets hosed |
| 18:02:23 | scanline | should try out gentoo linux... |
| 18:02:32 | prpplague | andersee: normally i would also, but i was doing some tests with the mtd-lilo |
| 18:21:59 | Russ|werk | hmm...I think my jtag lines are too long |
| 18:22:10 | Russ|werk | any good way to terminate them? or what do I need to do |
| 18:25:22 | prpplague | Russ|werk: send a T1000 unit? |
| 18:25:30 | Russ|werk | ? |
| 18:25:34 | Russ|werk | oh |
| 18:25:35 | Russ|werk | right |
| 18:25:53 | Russ|werk | anyway, it works if I bump the delay up to an unacceptable value |
| 18:26:19 | prpplague | Russ|werk: what kinda wire are you using for the lines? |
| 18:27:53 | Russ|werk | ribbon cable |
| 18:27:58 | Russ|werk | every other line is GND |
| 18:28:12 | prpplague | Russ|werk: how long? |
| 18:28:17 | Russ|werk | 5 feet |
| 18:29:14 | prpplague | 5 feet? wow, not heard of anyone using something that long |
| 18:30:00 | Russ|werk | it was the ribbon cable I found at rat shack |
| 18:30:06 | prpplague | maybe you should think about using braided 180 scsi cable |
| 18:30:12 | Russ|werk | maybe I should shorten it considerably? |
| 18:30:43 | Russ|werk | what if I wrap it tightly in tin foil and ground the tin foil |
| 18:31:47 | prpplague | Russ|werk: IMHO, that probably won't help |
| 18:32:20 | prpplague | Russ|werk: from my experience with different scsi bus stuff, braid is probably what you'll have to go with if you want that distance |
| 18:35:34 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm.... eCos has gone buh-bye |
| 18:38:21 | Russ|werk | prpplague: maybe I'll just cut what I have to 2 feet |
| 18:45:36 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: so it seems. |
| 18:45:51 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Ahh well. Their C library was ugly anyways. :) |
| 18:47:00 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: it also looks like ucLinux took a hit too - does that project have enough steam to last on its own by volunteers, or is it pretty much dead too? |
| 18:54:01 | andersee | uClinux never had any significant development from RedHat. So no loss there despite their noise to the contrary. |
| 18:55:57 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I don't believe I have _ever_ received _any_ patches from redhat for anything. I'm not aware of any redhat contributions to anything stored in cvs.uclinux.org (which I setup). |
| 18:59:48 | prpplague | Russ|werk: haven't got any 180 scsi cable laying around? |
| 18:59:58 | Russ|werk | prpplague: nope |
| 19:00:02 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: wow... all of the glory, none of the work then.. :) |
| 19:08:18 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yup. It bugs me when the big guys claim to be doing stuff, when those actually doing the work know good and well they arn't doing squat. |
| 19:09:33 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: story of my life... :-) |
| 19:12:33 | andersee | hehehe |
| 19:36:27 | mallum | andersee: ever looked at the GAR build system ? |
| 19:41:46 | andersee | Never heard of it. |
| 19:46:22 | mallum | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT2734738074.html |
| 19:46:41 | mallum | I've used it to build some of the gnome beta's and it worked well |
| 19:46:54 | mallum | andersee: just wondered wether it'd be of use for builroot |
| 21:07:08 | lyakh_home | hi, anybody has an idea how to send syslogd output only to ONE specific tty, to have at least one free...? Trying to modify syslogd.c - sofar without much success. |
| 22:58:40 | Austin | Okay, blob goes into an infinite "erase" loop when trying to flash any ramdisk. |
| 22:58:55 | Austin | Reflashing blob didn't fix it. |
| 22:58:56 | CosmicPenguin | what version? |
| 22:59:18 | Austin | The latest version, 20020621 build. |
| 22:59:41 | Austin | It was working until this morning, when a random error occured, causing my kernel to panic on bootup. |
| 23:00:01 | CosmicPenguin | So did you erase the ramdisk before flashing it again? |
| 23:00:18 | Austin | blob is trying to do this as we speak. |
| 23:00:27 | CosmicPenguin | and thats whats looping? |
| 23:00:30 | Austin | Yep. |
| 23:00:45 | Austin | "erasing at 0x0002000c... scanning down... resume writing at 0x00020000" |
| 23:00:52 | Austin | The first number changes, the second doesn't. |
| 23:01:05 | Austin | And it eventually loops back with the same number. |
| 23:01:18 | CosmicPenguin | Doh - and Russ just left, too... :( |
| 23:01:24 | Austin | Yeah. |
| 23:04:37 | prpplague | leaves to get ready for OLS |
| 23:04:41 | prpplague | later guys |
| 23:06:16 | CosmicPenguin | lucky bastard |
| 23:09:27 | andersee | Austin: I do this -- "erase ramdisk" then "xdownload ramdisk" then "flash ramdisk" |
| 23:11:23 | Morn | OLS? |
| 23:12:18 | CosmicPenguin | tried to think of a witty saying with the initals O-L-S, but failed |
| 23:12:56 | CosmicPenguin | Ottowa (sp?) Linux Symposium (or summit) |
| 23:13:06 | Morn | ah |
| 23:13:13 | Morn | I'm going to PCXPO tomorrow |
| 23:13:17 | CosmicPenguin | There is a kernel summit going on at the same time |
| 23:14:52 | Austin | andersee, I'll give it a shot. |
| 23:21:55 | Austin | Nope, "flash" still tries to erase. |
| 23:27:26 | Russ|werk | Austin: you still here? |
| 23:50:41 | scanline | is away: driving some... |