| 00:02:50 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, fun with useless perl scripts |
| 00:03:40 | CosmicPenguin | I do note, however that "Confessions of a Tiki Girl" is on 20 times... I should get home to try and catch that one... :) |
| 00:03:42 | CosmicPenguin | gotta go |
| 00:03:59 | CosmicPenguin | is away: M*A*S*H is on 14.99 times a day |
| 00:09:53 | jacques | tiki girl? |
| 00:09:55 | jacques | huh? |
| 00:10:09 | jacques | ibot: search google for tiki girl |
| 00:10:13 | | jacques: Google can't find tiki girl |
| 00:16:45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: "Confessions of a Tiki Gir"?? never heard of that one |
| 00:43:42 | as_ | Evnin all. |
| 01:01:56 | prpplague | as_: howdy |
| 01:02:07 | as_ | Hiya prp, how goes? |
| 01:02:19 | file | prpplague : The Xtreme is great |
| 01:02:24 | prpplague | as_: ssdd, but i did get a really cooool new laptop |
| 01:02:35 | prpplague | file: told ya |
| 01:02:45 | file | prpplague : I want another :p |
| 01:02:53 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: "confessions of a tiki girl"? |
| 01:03:39 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: you got me - but it is on TV 20 times between June 12 and June 30... it must be good |
| 01:03:42 | as_ | Expensive? |
| 01:04:43 | prpplague | as_: not too bad, $1499 plus a $100 mail in rebate |
| 01:05:04 | as_ | What spec? |
| 01:06:41 | thinmac | My tuxscreen just showed up in the mail, but the backlight won't turn on. Any thoughts? |
| 01:07:02 | prpplague | as_: 1.6 p4, 256mb ram, 30gb hd, dvd/cdrw combo, 14" tft , nic, modem |
| 01:07:10 | cpenguin_home | is away: Cooking dinner |
| 01:07:42 | prpplague | as_: other than the manual is has no real information other than how to do certain things in m$, its pretty nice |
| 01:08:09 | prpplague | as_: Russ helped me get the dvd player running last night |
| 01:08:41 | as_ | In linux I assume? |
| 01:08:58 | prpplague | as_: yes, it works better in linux than it does in winblows |
| 01:09:25 | cpenguin_home | is back (gone 00:02:15) |
| 01:09:28 | prpplague | as_: which reminds me, i need to see if there is a fund for the dcss legal defense |
| 01:09:38 | cpenguin_home | Chicken isn't as done as I thought it would be |
| 01:09:40 | as_ | dcss? |
| 01:10:10 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, COATG seems to be highly rated in the adult film community, lol |
| 01:10:11 | Russ|werk | thinmac: just plugging it in, haven't done anything yet? |
| 01:10:29 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: how could you even figure that out |
| 01:10:39 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: google of course |
| 01:11:14 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Nope, haven't done anything other than plug it in. Backlight's still off after a reset, though. |
| 01:11:42 | Russ|werk | did you put the batteries in the bottom? |
| 01:11:51 | prpplague | as_: the software that allows *nix to decode encryted dvd discs |
| 01:12:07 | thinmac | Yeah, both the double a's in the bottom and the tripple a's in the keyboard |
| 01:12:22 | Russ|werk | thinmac: are they in backwards by chance? |
| 01:12:23 | as_ | Ohh, I remeber that, should have recognised it. |
| 01:12:32 | cpenguin_home | Lotso pr0n on the American TV scene apparently |
| 01:12:36 | as_ | Brain cant be working properly. |
| 01:12:36 | prpplague | as_: because it was not "licensed" by hollywood, the men that wrote it are under legal problems |
| 01:12:49 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Just a sec, double check... |
| 01:13:11 | jacques | COATG? |
| 01:13:11 | prpplague | as_: open source is always under attach, its hard to keep up with all the issues |
| 01:13:20 | prpplague | "confessions of a tiki girl"? |
| 01:13:40 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: hmm, think we need to train ibot on that? |
| 01:13:51 | jacques | ooooooh, CoaTG |
| 01:14:04 | as_ | In the UK it would be legal I think. |
| 01:14:35 | Russ|werk | so again, anyone test the new flash driver/ |
| 01:14:36 | as_ | If you reverse engineer something cleanly, ie you dont nick bits directly, then its legal for you to use and give away. |
| 01:14:40 | prpplague | as_: ya it is, its just in the US where the "technology idiots" are in charge |
| 01:14:43 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Nope, and I reseated them to no effect. |
| 01:15:11 | Russ|werk | thinmac: is the SODIMM seated properly? |
| 01:15:17 | as_ | I think I'm having a twilight zone moment. UK law being nicer to hackers than US, nananananana. |
| 01:15:49 | prpplague | as_: problems is we have a crazy law that states if you create something with the intend that can be used for piracy, you can be held liable |
| 01:15:57 | Russ|werk | as_: because there isn't as much as a finacial interest |
| 01:16:06 | Russ|werk | all this campain finance crap won't do anything |
| 01:16:23 | Russ|werk | the main problem is that politians are able to provide favors |
| 01:16:26 | Russ|werk | needs to be stopped |
| 01:17:20 | thinmac | Russ|werk: SODIMM's fine, reseating didn't seem to make a difference. |
| 01:17:38 | prpplague | Russ|werk: not only that, but most of them have no clue about technology |
| 01:18:16 | Russ|werk | thinmac: did tim put blob on it for you? |
| 01:18:16 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i do alot with the GOP and its realy hard sometimes to get the concepts pounded into them |
| 01:18:26 | as_ | I wonder how blu ray will be encrypted in the light of decss and the us law change about encryption exports. |
| 01:18:27 | Russ|werk | prpplague: naw, its across the board |
| 01:18:53 | thinmac | Don't believe so. It's an extra fee, right? I just got the hardware. |
| 01:18:56 | Russ|werk | as_: export encryption law has basically been dismanteled |
| 01:19:11 | as_ | Thats what I mean. |
| 01:19:17 | prpplague | loads "army of darkness" on his laptop dvd |
| 01:19:20 | Russ|werk | thinmac: none of the pins on the power adapter have been bent? |
| 01:19:22 | as_ | Thats was what essentially made css 40bits. |
| 01:19:41 | Russ|werk | as_: what an irony |
| 01:20:10 | thinmac | Russ|werk: No, they're all fine. |
| 01:20:37 | as_ | Maybe blu ray will use 128bit. Or something weird and arcane like ecc. |
| 01:22:01 | Russ|werk | thinmac: any indication the tuxscreen is getting any power at all? |
| 01:22:32 | thinmac | Yeah, I see a picture on the LCD, but it's very hard to see. Says something about phillips and homes or something. |
| 01:22:53 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Just seems like the backlight isn't on. |
| 01:23:04 | Russ|werk | thinmac: tried the screen +/- keys? |
| 01:23:30 | Russ|werk | if the backlight was off, I don't think you can see anything at all |
| 01:24:20 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Yeah, they don't seem to change anything. |
| 01:24:40 | as_ | I'm worried blu ray wont happen at all. Seems to be a lot of difficulty making blue smiconductor lasers. At least if theyd used green they could make it solid state. |
| 01:25:40 | Russ|werk | if you turn all the lights out, does any light come out of the screen? |
| 01:25:56 | cpenguin_home | as_: You see that article about phillips on /. the other day? |
| 01:26:04 | cpenguin_home | They had a blue laser mini disc the size of a quarter |
| 01:26:23 | as_ | I didnt. Yikes, how long would the laser last? |
| 01:26:35 | as_ | Oh right, just the disk. |
| 01:27:04 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Hard to say for sure, lots of natural light in here. Seems like it might be, though, when I cover it with the box. Could just be really dim. |
| 01:27:19 | Russ|werk | thinmac: find out somehow, take it somewhere dark |
| 01:27:20 | cpenguin_home | as_: http://news.com.com/2100-1040-937621.html |
| 01:27:57 | as_ | Are any of the other lights on? |
| 01:28:43 | as_ | Just wondering if one of the power rails isnt working. |
| 01:32:55 | cpenguin_home | Geez - a 120 meter astroid came within 120,000 km of the earth, and we only just found out about it |
| 01:33:04 | cpenguin_home | It passed by June 14ish |
| 01:34:13 | as_ | That could have made a neet display. I wonder how fast it was traveling. |
| 01:34:31 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ya we are more worried about spending 30 million dollars on determining whether cow farts are causing green house effect |
| 01:34:41 | Russ|werk | I've seen a video of a "smaller" asteroid that bounced off the atmosphere |
| 01:35:03 | Russ|werk | prpplague: yes, the green house funding is laughable |
| 01:35:27 | Russ|werk | prpplague: we put a co2 detector near honolulu in the 70's to see if co2 levels are rising |
| 01:35:45 | Russ|werk | and what a surprise, the co2 levels near honolulu are rising |
| 01:36:47 | Russ|werk | also experiments to see whether or not cfc's do truly destroy ozone (requires basically a vacuum chamber to acheive the some environment) |
| 01:37:07 | Russ|werk | but no experiments to see how high such heavy gasses could get at such pressures |
| 01:37:18 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya i love the 20 million dollar research grant that came up with the conclusion "men and womens brains work differently" |
| 01:37:31 | as_ | Well thats just dumb. We should demand that every CO2 molecule put out by industry be painted green so we can tell it apart from the massive amount of CO2 being put out by volcanoes. |
| 01:37:44 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Nope, doesn't seem to be on. I can only see anything with bright, indirect light. |
| 01:37:46 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i could have saved them a lot of time and charged them a whole lot less to tell them that |
| 01:38:14 | Russ|werk | thinmac: running of 120V? |
| 01:38:44 | as_ | Russ, how do you mean, get at such pressures? |
| 01:38:58 | thinmac | Russ|werk: Yep. Just plugged into a US socket. |
| 01:39:11 | Russ|werk | as_: ozone is at the altitude its at for a reason |
| 01:39:27 | as_ | Yes.. thats where its formed. |
| 01:39:37 | Russ|werk | as_: I really doubt cfc's could make it up to that altitude because of the low pressure |
| 01:39:40 | thinmac | Russ|werk: I can see enough that I hit a 'start' button, and then there are two bars, the bottom of which is labeled 'light' and seems to make it brigher, but still not bright enough to really see. |
| 01:40:11 | Russ|werk | thinmac: I suppose you'd have to talk to tim (bzflag) |
| 01:40:38 | as_ | Because of the low pressure... I dont understand. They would diffuse throughout the atmosphere. |
| 01:41:25 | thinmac | Russ|werk: O.K. Thanks for the help. I'll play with it some more. |
| 01:42:20 | jacques | why is www.linuxvideo.org down? |
| 01:45:47 | as_ | If you were refering to molecular mass versus mean square velocity, then youd have a point up until mean path became large. But Id expect that to be at the very outer edge of the atmosphere. |
| 01:46:40 | as_ | At 10^-4 torr you have a mean path of a few 10's of cm. |
| 01:47:55 | as_ | Thats like, a millionth of an atmosphere. |
| 01:48:37 | Russ|werk | as_: its a heavy molecule, its hard to get it moving |
| 01:48:58 | as_ | Mmm, not hard, just slow. |
| 01:49:13 | prpplague | Russ|werk: hey now, its "weight challenged" molecule |
| 01:49:45 | as_ | Given thats its constantly being bombarded by other air molecules, Id expect it to completly diffuse. |
| 01:51:07 | Russ|werk | as_: at lower pressures, it isn't "constantly" bombarded |
| 01:51:35 | Russ|werk | not to mention lower temperatures |
| 01:51:39 | as_ | Ive said that, but you have to get down to uTorr before that happens. |
| 01:53:57 | cpenguin_home | anyway, anyone getting up to watch the soccer match tommorrow morning? |
| 01:54:33 | cpenguin_home | is away: mmmm.... chicken |
| 01:54:36 | Russ|werk | as_: mean path of what |
| 01:54:51 | Russ|werk | the molecular weight of ozone is about 160 g/m |
| 01:54:54 | as_ | Mean path of anything. |
| 01:55:03 | jacques | cpenguin_home: who's playing? |
| 01:55:12 | Austin | Great, hosted Inferno requires a platform-dependent binary. |
| 01:55:16 | Austin | I guess I'm booting Windows. |
| 01:55:25 | Russ|werk | as_: mean path depends on molecular mass, doesn't it? |
| 01:55:30 | jacques | hmm I dont think I have any channels that carry the world cup |
| 01:55:44 | jacques | Austin: hmm? what OS are you running? there is a linux binary |
| 01:55:45 | Russ|werk | jacques: try mexican tv |
| 01:55:58 | as_ | Umm. No I dont think so, just molecular density. |
| 01:56:02 | jacques | Russ|werk: I only have an antenna... |
| 01:56:07 | Austin | jacques: I have one x86 workstation running, and it dual boots Win2k/QNX 6.1. |
| 01:56:13 | Austin | This machine runs NeXTstep 3.3. |
| 01:56:29 | jacques | Austin: aah. OK it looks like windows for you then |
| 01:56:33 | Austin | Yep. |
| 01:56:43 | cpenguin_home | jacques: us and germany |
| 01:56:47 | Austin | Which sucks, because I could probably compile source easily enough for QNX. |
| 01:56:58 | Austin | (Where I have two handy EIA-232 ports.) |
| 01:57:50 | jacques | cpenguin_home: ah. i would like to see that |
| 01:58:23 | Russ|werk | is jst +0700? |
| 01:58:48 | jacques | i dunno |
| 01:59:17 | jacques | (19:03:05) linuxjacques: time in tokyo japan |
| 01:59:17 | jacques | (19:03:07) SmarterChild: The date and time in Tokyo, Japan is Friday June 21st, 2002 11:02:58 am. |
| 01:59:45 | | jacques: huh? |
| 01:59:45 | jacques | ibot: time in tokyo japan |
| 01:59:49 | prpplague | if anyone cares to know, i tried several usb-to-232 adapters today, all but one worked on great |
| 01:59:53 | Russ|werk | ah, +0900 |
| 02:00:13 | jacques | prpplague: wow, good to know - which ones did you try? and which did not work? |
| 02:00:30 | Russ|werk | el, are the on daylight savings? |
| 02:00:53 | Russ|werk | ok, they aren't |
| 02:00:56 | prpplague | jacques: i don't have the list here, but i'll be posting on linux-usb.org probably tomorrow |
| 02:01:22 | Russ|werk | jeez, the game ins't on till 6am |
| 02:01:24 | prpplague | jacques: if you'd like i'll you send you an email from the office with the list |
| 02:02:06 | as_ | Hmm, havnt taken the screen apart on the tux, about time I did. |
| 02:02:39 | prpplague | lol, heavy metal 2000, rocks |
| 02:03:32 | jacques | prpplague: the game or the movie? |
| 02:03:43 | prpplague | jacques: the movie |
| 02:03:52 | jacques | cool |
| 02:04:16 | prpplague | jacques: dvd under linux is just toooo cool |
| 02:04:57 | jacques | prpplague: which client are you using? |
| 02:05:11 | prpplague | jacques: ogle |
| 02:05:22 | jacques | prpplague: I setup vlc last weekend, but I have an annoying buzz in the audio and I was wondering if it was normal |
| 02:05:30 | jacques | prpplague: it sounds like a decoding artifact |
| 02:05:42 | jacques | I just downloaded ogle |
| 02:06:05 | prpplague | jacques: i spent about an hour trying to get vlc running, ogle was quick, easy, ans works great (thanks russ) |
| 02:06:45 | jacques | prpplague: i got vlc compiled and running, but there are so many options and plugins that I have no idea if it's setup optimally |
| 02:06:57 | jacques | i will try ogle tonight |
| 02:12:30 | cpenguin_home | alright - time to spend some time with the ol' fiance.. :) |
| 02:12:32 | cpenguin_home | buh bye |
| 04:20:54 | ntropy | anyone awake? |
| 04:21:24 | Russ | ya |
| 04:22:15 | ntropy | how much of the DSP is supported? |
| 04:22:26 | ntropy | ie, do the caller id functions and such work currently? |
| 04:26:38 | Russ | don't know, wouldn't be hard to implement if its not |
| 04:29:33 | prpplague | has several unused dsp boards |
| 04:33:08 | ntropy | Russ: yeah, thats what i was thinking |
| 04:33:35 | ntropy | Russ: i'm just curious if next week when i get home i'm going to have to hack out support for caller id functionality |
| 04:40:48 | jacques | can you get the modem working while you're at it? :-D |
| 04:48:57 | Russ | jacques: need the codecs |
| 04:49:05 | Russ | you got v.90 handy? |
| 04:50:27 | ntropy | well, the phone works at least, right? |
| 04:50:31 | Russ | yes |
| 05:02:23 | jacques | Russ: arg. I thought we werent sure it was a software modem |
| 05:02:47 | jacques | Russ: I was kinda hoping the codecs were builtin on the dsp board somehow |
| 05:02:52 | Russ | when did we ever say tthat? |
| 05:02:58 | Russ | the modem isn't on the dsp board |
| 05:03:01 | Russ | its the ucb1300 |
| 05:03:04 | jacques | oh |
| 05:03:24 | jacques | what does the dsp do then? |
| 05:03:49 | Russ | controls autopaths, does all the DTMF stuff, reads the caller id |
| 05:04:02 | Russ | and *could* record and play back messages, but the chips aren't there |
| 05:04:30 | Russ | http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/ucb1300be |
| 05:04:31 | jacques | other than autopaths which I dont know what they are, it does not sound like it does much |
| 05:04:51 | Russ | plays little beepy sounds, does the LED's, reads button presses |
| 05:05:28 | jacques | ooooh aaah |
| 05:05:36 | Russ | audio patths control where the sound goes to/comes from |
| 05:05:42 | Russ | like phone line to headset |
| 05:05:45 | Russ | or speaker |
| 05:05:48 | Russ | or ucb1300 |
| 05:05:57 | jacques | hmmm, still sounds like a waste of a dsp |
| 05:06:44 | Russ | it seems to be a standard unit that would be used on a lot of phones |
| 05:06:45 | Austin | So, would you rather whistle the DTMF tones into the handset, or flash the switchhook a bunch of times, or what? =) |
| 05:07:15 | jacques | whistle |
| 05:08:56 | jacques | i can hum and whistle at the same time |
| 05:09:11 | Austin | Can you hum 852 Hz? |
| 05:09:29 | Austin | That seems like it'd be a pretty neat talent to have, actually. |
| 05:09:39 | jacques | dunno, havent hummed into an oscope since high school |
| 05:10:10 | Austin | would sooner use pulse dialing. |
| 05:10:25 | Austin | Which, in itself, would be a major pain. |
| 05:17:12 | ][N-Flux | is away: Sleep for work... |
| 06:45:05 | Russ | can't code with fever...grr |
| 06:46:27 | ntropy | you've got a fever eh? |
| 06:46:32 | Russ | a bit |
| 06:46:50 | ntropy | ug. yeah, i've tried to code while sick, it never works very well for me |
| 06:46:54 | ntropy | what are you working on? |
| 06:49:36 | Russ | rewriting the DSP driver |
| 06:50:42 | BZFlag | Russ: now don't go sending that fever to OLS |
| 06:50:58 | Russ | I don't have the chance to go to OLS unfortunately |
| 06:51:02 | Russ | next year |
| 06:51:17 | | OLS is probably Ottawa Linux Symposium or http://www.ottawalinuxsymposium.org/ or http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2002/ |
| 06:51:17 | ntropy | whats OLS? |
| 06:51:25 | ntropy | why thanks ibot! |
| 06:51:26 | ntropy | ;) |
| 06:52:17 | ntropy | BZFlag: hey, how much of the telephone interface is functional? ie, caller id |
| 06:52:45 | BZFlag | callerid should be available, but I don't know any apps that use it yet. |
| 06:53:04 | BZFlag | dial from software works, but VoIP needs the shanip mod. |
| 06:53:10 | ntropy | well, i'll have to be the first to write one |
| 06:53:17 | BZFlag | sw modem does not work and likely never will. |
| 06:53:36 | Russ | BZFlag: outside work could make it happen |
| 06:53:38 | ntropy | ah, thats what some others were saying earlier |
| 06:53:47 | Russ | BZFlag: who knows when some coder will sit down and do the codecs |
| 06:53:49 | BZFlag | Russ: "outside work" ? |
| 06:53:57 | ntropy | that the modem interface lacks some chips to make it easy |
| 06:53:57 | BZFlag | ahh. true. |
| 06:53:57 | Russ | BZFlag: winmodem work in general |
| 06:54:27 | BZFlag | the vercel has a ltmodem in it, but the driver is not open. |
| 06:54:56 | ntropy | BZFlag: so, shanip allows sound data to be captured then, correct? |
| 06:55:12 | ntropy | BZFlag: the vercel being the interface chip i take it |
| 06:55:20 | Russ | ntropy: the shanip provides an audio channel to the phone/spk phone |
| 06:55:32 | Russ | ntropy: no, another platform the vercel is |
| 06:55:40 | ntropy | ahh |
| 06:55:45 | Russ | ntropy: the modem part of it is easy |
| 06:55:46 | Russ | no problem |
| 06:55:58 | Russ | doing the codes, (v.34, v.90, etc) is the problem |
| 06:56:15 | Russ | er, codecs, not codes |
| 06:56:31 | ntropy | so, the modem has to be implimented all in sw then? |
| 06:56:48 | Russ | yes |
| 06:57:38 | ntropy | well, have an OSS sw modem package out there would be pretty sweet |
| 06:57:44 | ntropy | s/have/having/ |
| 06:59:29 | ntropy | BZFlag: oh, did the unlocked phones get sent out? |
| 07:00:32 | BZFlag | ntropy: vercel is another linux pda not yet shipping. likely not shipping till Q1 next year. |
| 07:00:44 | ntropy | ah |
| 07:01:41 | BZFlag | ntropy: nope. they got unlocked and boxed though. shipping tomorrow morning for sure. |
| 07:02:01 | ntropy | sounds good. how are you sending them? ground? 2 day? |
| 07:12:30 | NextofReq | Has there been any breakage recently in the buildroot, wrt the uclibc toolchain or kernel modules? |
| 07:20:07 | BZFlag | ntropy: usps priority |
| 07:20:19 | ntropy | BZFlag: sounds good |
| 07:20:41 | BZFlag | NextofReq: andersee did something recently and I've not tried since then |
| 07:21:03 | BZFlag | modprobe was still not working last I checked. |
| 07:21:08 | BZFlag | insmod works though. |
| 07:22:21 | NextofReq | Hmm. Didn't think to try insmod on its own. |
| 07:24:21 | NextofReq | Ah, that much does work. Thanks. |
| 07:40:04 | BZFlag | NextofReq: I just add insmod lines in my linuxrc for everything I need at present. |
| 07:42:52 | NextofReq | fair enough. |
| 09:19:14 | scanline | is back (gone 11:33:03) |
| 10:18:23 | scanline | is away: breakfast |
| 11:33:52 | scanline | is back (gone 01:15:29) |
| 11:36:08 | cpenguin_home | *yawn* |
| 14:28:21 | CosmicPenguin | good morning |
| 14:34:12 | scanline | is away: "Tell me which is better... this... " *switches lenses* "or this...." |
| 15:06:08 | CosmicPenguin | andersee! |
| 15:06:12 | CosmicPenguin | Just the guy I wanted to see.... |
| 15:06:50 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the secret to compile C++ apps with uclbic? |
| 15:06:57 | CosmicPenguin | s/uclbic/uclibc/ |
| 15:07:12 | CosmicPenguin | gets out his laptop - this will take a while, becuase the battery is crapped out |
| 15:13:43 | CosmicPenguin | > arm-uclibc-c++ -o tester test.cxx |
| 15:14:08 | CosmicPenguin | > libstdc++.so: undefined reference to 'finitef' |
| 15:14:16 | CosmicPenguin | > cat test.cxx |
| 15:14:31 | CosmicPenguin | > int main(){return(0);} |
| 15:14:40 | CosmicPenguin | This is why FLNX ./configure craps out |
| 15:23:54 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Hmm. Lemme look at that one. |
| 15:26:51 | andersee | Interesting indeed. This is with the tuxscreen buildroot when enabling USE_UCLIBC_TOOLCHAIN? |
| 15:29:04 | CosmicPenguin | yeppers |
| 15:30:32 | andersee | Nobody should use finitef. They should use isfinite(). Digging into libstdc++... |
| 15:32:15 | andersee | Looks like gcc-3.1/libstdc++-v3/config/locale/generic/c_locale.cc is the guilty file. |
| 15:35:27 | andersee | I'm rebuilding with --enable-c99 added to the configure script to see if that helps. Should... |
| 15:57:52 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: so far its looking good -- gcc compiled ok. buildroot has re-compiled ok.... |
| 15:58:24 | CosmicPenguin | If you can compile the simple program, then we can get past the ./configure - we can play games after that |
| 16:00:52 | andersee | Gumble... |
| 16:00:59 | andersee | /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/usr/bin/../lib/gcc-lib/arm-linux/3.1/../../../../arm-linux/lib/libstdc++.so: undefined reference to `finitef' |
| 16:01:05 | andersee | Same deal. |
| 16:01:11 | andersee | Curious indeed. |
| 16:01:26 | CosmicPenguin | I thought that you said that there were some command line flags that needed to be set |
| 16:02:16 | andersee | Yup. And I set it. Need to see why _GLIBCPP_USE_C99 was left undefined. |
| 16:02:45 | CosmicPenguin | what is the command line argument (I missed that part) |
| 16:04:13 | andersee | --enable-c99 |
| 16:04:51 | andersee | Trying to get _GLIBCPP_USE_C99 defined in arm-linux/libstdc++-v3/include/arm-linux/bits/c++config.h so that libstdc++-v3/config/locale/generic/c_locale.cc will do the Right Thing(tm) |
| 16:14:28 | andersee | Ok, trying a different way this time... |
| 16:24:28 | CosmicPenguin | mak:q |
| 16:27:45 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 16:27:57 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: yes? |
| 16:28:09 | CosmicPenguin | gets very angry at FLTK which is showing a window and then hiding it immediately |
| 16:28:18 | CosmicPenguin | or rather, minimizing it |
| 16:28:19 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: you were "mak:q"-ing... |
| 16:28:25 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: oops, wrong window... :) |
| 16:28:42 | andersee | I'd guessed as much. :) |
| 16:30:46 | CosmicPenguin | recompiles FLTK with lots of debug messages |
| 16:46:35 | CosmicPenguin | apparently Sawfish thinks its pretty funny to move my window right off the screen.... haw haw |
| 16:46:39 | CosmicPenguin | resetting X brb |
| 16:52:45 | andersee | Sigh. Is sourceforge cvs broken today? |
| 16:52:50 | CosmicPenguin | Sure nuff, a reboot makes the window pop up correctly |
| 16:53:03 | CosmicPenguin | says lots of nasty things about FLTK |
| 16:53:42 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: This will fix the fineitef problem for you: |
| 16:53:45 | andersee | --- make/uclibc_toolchain.mk.orig Fri Jun 21 10:57:09 2002 |
| 16:53:45 | andersee | +++ make/uclibc_toolchain.mk Fri Jun 21 10:41:20 2002 |
| 16:53:45 | andersee | @@ -349,6 +349,8 @@ |
| 16:53:45 | andersee | # Use atexit() directly, rather than cxa_atexit |
| 16:53:45 | andersee | perl -i -p -e "s,int flag_use_cxa_atexit = 1;,int flag_use_cxa_atexit = 0;,g;"\ |
| 16:53:45 | andersee | $(GCC_DIR)/gcc/cp/decl2.c; |
| 16:53:47 | andersee | + # Fix up a lame quirk... |
| 16:53:50 | andersee | + perl -i -p -e "s,defined.*_GLIBCPP_USE_C99.*,1,g;" $(GCC_DIR)/libstdc++-v3/config/locale/generic/c_locale.cc; |
| 16:53:52 | andersee | # Hack up the soname for libstdc++ |
| 16:53:54 | andersee | perl -i -p -e "s,\.so\.1,.so.0.9.9,g;" $(GCC_DIR)/gcc/config/t-slibgcc-elf-ver; |
| 16:53:57 | andersee | perl -i -p -e "s,-version-info.*[0-9]:[0-9]:[0-9],-version-info 9:9:0,g;" \ |
| 16:56:45 | CosmicPenguin | cool - it is a temporary hack, or the real thing? |
| 16:57:19 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: It fixes it. |
| 16:57:47 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I've not figured out why it won't enable C99 across the board, but this fixes the problem. |
| 16:58:44 | andersee | I'd commit to CVS but sourceforge cvs seems to hosed up today... |
| 17:06:54 | CosmicPenguin | I still need to to the c99 flag for the compiler? |
| 17:18:39 | Morn | is away: doing the lawn |
| 17:21:37 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: nah |
| 17:26:40 | isboxs | hmm |
| 17:35:42 | andersee | Anyone else having trouble getting to cvs.sourceforge.net? |
| 17:35:48 | andersee | [andersen@dillweed buildroot-tux]$ traceroute cvs.sourceforge.net |
| 17:35:50 | andersee | traceroute to usw-pr-cvs.sourceforge.net (216.136.171.202), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets |
| 17:35:50 | andersee | 1 winder.codepoet.org (10.10.10.1) 0.703 ms 0.480 ms 2.131 ms |
| 17:35:50 | andersee | 2 cisco.codepoet.org (166.70.99.137) 1.621 ms * 63.064 ms |
| 17:35:50 | andersee | 3 c6400-nrp1.xmission.com (166.70.4.74) 1183.315 ms 1128.004 ms 861.252 ms |
| 17:35:54 | andersee | [----snip-------] |
| 17:35:59 | andersee | 16 csr11-ve241.sntc05.exodus.net (64.56.192.90) 1592.675 ms 1150.149 ms 842.086 ms |
| 17:36:00 | andersee | 17 usw-pr-cvs.sourceforge.net (216.136.171.202) 1478.041 ms 1358.283 ms * |
| 17:36:48 | CosmicPenguin | 17 usw-pr-cvs.sourceforge.net (216.136.171.202) 132.713 ms 194.265 ms 181.081 ms |
| 17:38:20 | andersee | And you can do cvs updates and such? |
| 17:38:44 | andersee | I'm getting stuff like: |
| 17:38:46 | andersee | $ cvs commit make/uclibc_toolchain.mk |
| 17:38:46 | andersee | ssh: connect to address 216.136.171.202 port 22: No route to host |
| 17:38:46 | andersee | cvs [commit aborted]: end of file from server (consult above messages if any) |
| 18:15:31 | Morn | is back (gone 00:56:47) |
| 19:14:06 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: sourceforge seems to work again. Committed. |
| 19:14:38 | sjhill | should be committed |
| 19:15:06 | andersee | hehe |
| 19:21:36 | scanline | is back (gone 04:47:24) |
| 19:24:26 | Russ|werk | I have to ask |
| 19:24:34 | Russ|werk | has anyone tested the new flash driver yet |
| 19:26:48 | andersee | Russ|werk: is it in CVS? Now that I have the uClibc release out the door, I'l be glad to try it. |
| 19:33:35 | Russ|werk | andersee: ya, it is |
| 19:34:16 | andersee | So just a 'cvs up make/blob.mk' then 'make blob' and I'm good? |
| 19:37:10 | Russ|werk | yup |
| 19:39:54 | andersee | didn't compile. I just fixed make/blob.mk, so now it compiles... |
| 19:40:35 | andersee | What are the size limits for blob? |
| 19:41:03 | Russ|werk | depends on the flash layout |
| 19:41:18 | Russ|werk | I think on tux it might be 64k for blob, 64k for paramaters |
| 19:41:41 | andersee | K. Then I'm gonna add --enable-uucodec |
| 19:43:07 | andersee | Then just 'cat tuxscreen-blob > /dev/mtdblock0' right? |
| 19:43:45 | Russ|werk | I would reboot, get the blob prompt |
| 19:43:49 | Russ|werk | download blob |
| 19:43:50 | Russ|werk | reblob |
| 19:43:56 | Russ|werk | download ramdisk |
| 19:43:59 | Russ|werk | flash ramdisk |
| 19:44:04 | andersee | perhaps that is best. |
| 19:44:06 | Russ|werk | then make sure that went ok |
| 19:44:13 | Russ|werk | then again |
| 19:44:25 | Russ|werk | download blob |
| 19:44:25 | Russ|werk | reblob |
| 19:44:25 | Russ|werk | download blob |
| 19:44:26 | Russ|werk | flash blob |
| 19:44:31 | Russ|werk | download ramdisk |
| 19:44:34 | Russ|werk | flash ramdisk |
| 19:44:42 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: can you give me odds on the brickability of the new blob? |
| 19:44:51 | CosmicPenguin | doesn't have jtag |
| 19:44:53 | Russ|werk | compared to the old one? very low |
| 19:45:02 | Russ|werk | I know how to make the old one brick |
| 19:45:12 | Russ|werk | I don't yet know of anything in the new one that bricks |
| 19:45:23 | Russ|werk | which is why I want to get it out asap |
| 19:45:24 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: You hose your phone, you can borrow my jtag. I live pretty close... |
| 19:45:30 | CosmicPenguin | even if you don't use the 32mb SIMM |
| 19:45:38 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: cool |
| 19:48:08 | andersee | Russ|werk: blob from cvs seems to work just fine. |
| 19:48:17 | andersee | Russ|werk: downloading ramdisk now... |
| 19:51:05 | scanline | is away: I'm busy |
| 19:51:08 | scanline | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 20:03:08 | andersee | Russ|werk: When flashing w/o having an erase first, its taking forever... |
| 20:03:14 | andersee | blob> flash ramdisk |
| 20:03:14 | andersee | Saving ramdisk to flash |
| 20:03:14 | andersee | erasing at 0x00020018... scanning down... resume writing at 0x00020000 |
| 20:03:14 | andersee | erasing at 0x00040020... scanning down... resume writing at 0x00020000 |
| 20:03:17 | andersee | etc, etc.... |
| 20:03:26 | andersee | Thats normal? |
| 20:03:32 | Russ|werk | ya, it rereads everything, its a weird algorithm |
| 20:03:38 | Russ|werk | are you sure you reblobed? |
| 20:03:43 | andersee | yup |
| 20:04:06 | andersee | I did an 'erase blob', 'flash blob', then rebooted... |
| 20:04:16 | Russ|werk | do the amd32.c comments reference the datasheet? |
| 20:06:20 | andersee | The word datasheet is not present in amd32.c |
| 20:07:13 | Russ|werk | I mean, is there a http://www.amd.com/...etc |
| 20:07:19 | Russ|werk | in the comments at the head of the file |
| 20:08:10 | andersee | Nope. No "http" at all... |
| 20:08:22 | Russ|werk | cvs status amd32.c |
| 20:08:42 | andersee | [andersen@dillweed blob]$ cvs status amd32.c |
| 20:08:42 | andersee | =================================================================== |
| 20:08:42 | andersee | file: amd32.c Status: Up-to-date |
| 20:08:42 | andersee | Working revision: 1.5 |
| 20:08:42 | andersee | Repository revision: 1.5 /cvsroot/blob/blob/src/blob/amd32.c,v |
| 20:08:43 | andersee | Sticky Tag: (none) |
| 20:08:45 | andersee | Sticky Date: 2002.05.01.06.00.00 |
| 20:08:49 | andersee | Sticky Options: (none) |
| 20:08:53 | Russ|werk | Sticky Date: 2002.05.01.06.00.00 |
| 20:09:15 | Russ|werk | Working revision: should be 1.6 |
| 20:09:32 | Russ|werk | if you want latest cvs, you'll have to do a cvs update -dAP |
| 20:09:44 | andersee | Thats odd. Tim must have stuck a sticky tag in CVS. |
| 20:09:49 | andersee | Doing a cvs up -A |
| 20:09:54 | scanline | likes -PdA better when doing embedded work |
| 20:09:59 | Russ|werk | heh |
| 20:10:30 | andersee | My .cvsrc does that for me: |
| 20:10:33 | andersee | -z3 |
| 20:10:33 | andersee | update -dP |
| 20:10:33 | andersee | rdiff -u |
| 20:10:33 | andersee | diff -u |
| 20:10:33 | andersee | checkout -P |
| 20:11:41 | andersee | Russ|werk: It choked on ide.c |
| 20:11:45 | andersee | /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/usr/bin/arm-uclibc-gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../include/blob -I../../include -I../../include -Os -I/home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/linux/include -Wall -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm1100 -mapcs-32 -fomit-frame-pointer -fno-builtin -c ide.c |
| 20:11:45 | andersee | ide.c: In function `ide_identify_drive': |
| 20:11:45 | andersee | ide.c:203: `IDE_BLOCK_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 20:11:45 | andersee | ide.c:203: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once |
| 20:11:45 | andersee | ide.c:203: for each function it appears in.) |
| 20:11:49 | andersee | ide.c:203: warning: unused variable `id_buffer' |
| 20:11:51 | andersee | ide.c:203: storage size of `id_buffer' isn't known |
| 20:11:53 | andersee | ide.c: In function `ide_setfeature': |
| 20:11:55 | andersee | ide.c:262: `HDC_SETFEATURE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 20:11:57 | andersee | ide.c: In function `hd_read': |
| 20:11:59 | andersee | ide.c:325: `IDE_BLOCK_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 20:12:01 | andersee | ide.c: In function `hd_read_lba': |
| 20:12:03 | andersee | ide.c:388: `IDE_BLOCK_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 20:12:05 | andersee | ide.c: In function `hd_identify': |
| 20:12:07 | andersee | ide.c:496: `IDE_BLOCK_SIZE' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 20:12:09 | andersee | ide.c: At top level: |
| 20:12:11 | andersee | ide.c:513: warning: `hd_recal' defined but not used |
| 20:12:13 | andersee | make[3]: *** [ide.o] Error 1 |
| 20:12:17 | Russ|werk | why are you building the ide stuff? |
| 20:12:42 | Russ|werk | er, I have an ide.o |
| 20:12:43 | andersee | I needed to rm build/blob/.configured, so it would reconfigure itself. |
| 20:12:55 | Russ|werk | did you do tools/rebuild-gcc ttwwiiccee? |
| 20:13:05 | andersee | There. Thats better. compiled. |
| 20:13:12 | andersee | Russ|werk: no. Should I? |
| 20:13:20 | Russ|werk | its neccessary sometimes |
| 20:17:53 | andersee | Download current blob now... |
| 20:19:07 | andersee | k. |
| 20:19:18 | andersee | Now downloading ramdisk with the new blob... |
| 20:26:19 | andersee | Seem that 2.4.18-rmk7 is out... |
| 20:26:29 | andersee | Checking if the current -tux patch applies |
| 20:27:31 | andersee | Not too bad. |
| 20:27:55 | andersee | Rejects in /Makefile and in drivers/misc/mcp-sa1100.c |
| 20:28:26 | Russ|werk | I'll probably merge that tonight |
| 20:28:35 | Russ|werk | I'm doing a rewrite of the wheaties driver atm |
| 20:31:07 | andersee | Russ|werk: the Makefile reject is trivial (rmk6 vs rmk7). The drivers/misc/mcp-sa1100.c reject was a fix applied upstream. |
| 20:31:47 | andersee | Russ|werk: I'll fixup those two in CVS. then you can get the wheaties rewrite tonight. |
| 20:33:11 | andersee | Russ|werk: the new blob's 'flash ramdisk' behavior w/o a prior 'erase ramdisk' is looking much better indeed. |
| 20:33:59 | ntropy | so, shanip requires a pretty heavy hardware mod? |
| 20:36:55 | andersee | Russ|werk: I'll also add in the patch to linux/drivers/serial/serial_sa1100.c from Tom Walsh |
| 20:38:14 | Russ|werk | which patch is that, the mouse one? |
| 20:39:01 | andersee | Yeah. Second serial port wasn't initialized properly |
| 20:39:24 | andersee | Quote from tomw: |
| 20:39:27 | andersee | This is a patch to place RTS into a known state on the Aux connector so |
| 20:39:27 | andersee | that a serial mouse can be used with the tux. The patch is needed as |
| 20:39:27 | andersee | the serial_sa1100.c driver code does not initialize the modem control |
| 20:39:27 | andersee | lines and RTS is left in the incorrect idle state: |
| 20:40:12 | andersee | Russ|werk: k, seems the new blob works just fine. :) |
| 20:42:13 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: whats your judgement on the blob? |
| 20:42:35 | Russ|werk | andersee: I have a much better patch for that |
| 20:42:46 | Russ|werk | andersee: actually implements rts/cts |
| 20:43:15 | andersee | Ahh. |
| 20:43:16 | CosmicPenguin | needs to read the previous messages before opening his big mouth |
| 20:43:35 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: it works. Russ' patches are clearly improvements. |
| 20:44:41 | andersee | Russ|werk: k. Feel free to commit those then. I just committed -tux1 to cvs as is. |
| 20:44:45 | CosmicPenguin | Thats good enough for me.... I can now spend the weekend getting the FLNX to run |
| 20:45:15 | CosmicPenguin | s/the// |
| 20:45:16 | Morn | Well, I'll hope to see what developes for the next week, this weekend I'm going into NYC |
| 20:45:22 | Russ|werk | andersee: we need to get that onto the download dir then |
| 20:45:24 | Morn | anyone going to PCXPO in NYC next week? |
| 20:45:34 | CosmicPenguin | PCXPO? |
| 20:45:53 | Morn | it's a big trade show in NYC |
| 20:45:58 | Morn | 3 days at the Javits center |
| 20:45:58 | CosmicPenguin | Oh...... I see now... :) |
| 20:45:59 | andersee | Russ|werk: its in buildroot-tux/sources/patch-2.4.18-rmk7-tux1.bz2 |
| 20:46:11 | Russ|werk | andersee: here |
| 20:46:19 | CosmicPenguin | PC - EXPO |
| 20:46:41 | Morn | I think PC Expo is a different thing |
| 20:46:47 | Morn | this is actually PCXPO |
| 20:47:12 | Morn | http://www.techxny.com |
| 20:47:21 | Russ|werk | untested... |
| 20:47:28 | Russ|werk | (the shannon.c rts/cts) |
| 20:49:25 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: I hope to have some sort of application running by the end of next week (I am going to be gone this weekend too) |
| 20:49:41 | CosmicPenguin | It should just be Microwindows + a window manager + the phone application |
| 20:49:42 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: Cool! |
| 20:49:55 | CosmicPenguin | I'll see if I can get sqlite to cooperate too |
| 20:50:18 | Morn | I guess you've been following the thread on the list |
| 20:51:11 | Morn | next week I hope to order the CPU upgrades for this box |
| 20:51:27 | Morn | moving from AMD 1400 MP's to AMD 2000 MP's (dual box) |
| 20:51:29 | bill20r3 | ponders getting a tuxscreen |
| 20:53:05 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: mmmm.... I just moved up to a +1900, and it kicks ass |
| 20:53:20 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: dual 2000 MP's will be very sweet |
| 20:53:39 | scanline | droolz... |
| 20:53:43 | Morn | it'll cost about $200 for each cpu |
| 20:54:17 | scanline | If you get a machine that hot you'll need to do some case mods >:) |
| 20:54:23 | andersee | Russ|werk: That shannon.c replaces this patch to linux/drivers/serial/serial_sa1100.c |
| 20:54:28 | Morn | I told my roommate she could use on of my 1400's for a new machine for her kids |
| 20:54:33 | andersee | + /* make GPIO_19 output a positive voltage on RTS. */ |
| 20:54:33 | andersee | + GPDR |= GPIO_SSP_CLK; GPCR |= GPIO_SSP_CLK; |
| 20:55:19 | Morn | scanline: as it is the machine runs on the ragged edge of meltdown |
| 20:55:28 | Morn | I'll need to check out liquid cooling soon :-) |
| 20:55:56 | Morn | each cpu is regisering 176 degrees right now |
| 20:56:26 | scanline | Morn: hehe.. my machine runs like a space heater. I've been doing some modding, but for looks not cooling (72 computer controlled LEDs behind two windows!) |
| 20:57:00 | Morn | scanline: With a 500 Watt powersuply it can't get much worse |
| 20:57:09 | scanline | yikes |
| 20:57:09 | Morn | I have 3 desktop computers on my desk and one laptop |
| 20:57:31 | Morn | I barely have any desk space left |
| 20:57:41 | Morn | my roommate calls my room the command center |
| 20:57:45 | scanline | nifty |
| 20:57:57 | Morn | I didn't really need any heat in the room other than the computers this last winter |
| 20:58:07 | scanline | In college I had a ton of monitors on my desk... this summer I've been getting by with just one oddly enough |
| 20:58:26 | Morn | oh, I forgot to mention the tuxscreen is on the desk too |
| 20:58:41 | Morn | people see my work area and wonder if anyone could really work with all that |
| 20:58:53 | scanline | I had two old macintoshes on my desk for a while :) |
| 20:59:31 | Morn | I'd like to resurect my old SparcStation2 downstairs for a guest terminal |
| 20:59:43 | scanline | that'd be cool |
| 20:59:55 | bill20r3 | heh |
| 21:00:02 | Morn | though a lot of the people that crash here have laptops and I have a spare 802.11b card for them to use |
| 21:00:03 | bill20r3 | you must not like your guests too much. :-) |
| 21:00:24 | scanline | I had my old Mac LC 520 running picogui and X-chat for a while :) |
| 21:00:39 | Morn | scanline: I IRC off the ultrasparc in a VNC window |
| 21:02:43 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: the FLNX build still didn't work - I'm cleaning and rebuilding to make sure though |
| 21:02:44 | scanline | I should IRC from my Tuxscreen :) |
| 21:26:14 | Morn | ack, 144Meg in buffers |
| 21:26:20 | Morn | must be all the java code |
| 21:39:58 | Russ|werk | andersee: yes, it does real rts/cts |
| 21:41:37 | andersee | Ok. I'll update things to yours and drop the serial_sa1100.c change |
| 21:42:00 | Morn | a recent message on the list shows a link to a bunch of java stuff for embedded |
| 21:42:09 | Morn | one of the links there is to WeirdX a X server in Java |
| 21:42:16 | Morn | isn't that kind of chicken and egg? |
| 21:42:34 | Morn | for the GUI you need X but it provides X |
| 21:42:40 | Morn | watches her head spin |
| 21:49:29 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: kind of like a free car that you need to supply your own engine for |
| 21:49:45 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: apparently this thing can run as an applet too |
| 21:49:49 | Morn | this is too weird |
| 21:50:51 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - a xserver in a applet... thats kind of cool when you get past the obvious issues with downloading a xserver in a web page |
| 21:51:13 | Morn | it doesn't seem overly big |
| 21:51:26 | CosmicPenguin | "Now downloading applet.... go bake some cookies while you wait. Here is our favorite recipe:" |
| 21:55:55 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: they even have alpha support |
| 21:58:44 | Morn | I wonder if I can make my ultrasparc a XDMCP server? |
| 21:58:51 | Morn | it doesn't have a graphics card |
| 21:58:58 | Morn | so I'm not sure how to run X11 on it |
| 22:02:51 | signal11 | does it have xdm |
| 22:02:55 | signal11 | ? |
| 22:03:00 | Morn | it supports XDMCP |
| 22:03:23 | Morn | and runs out of a jvm 1.1 |
| 22:03:34 | Morn | which means supporting it on smaller devices is possible |
| 22:04:48 | signal11 | tux screen can use xdmcp |
| 22:04:52 | signal11 | thats how i use mine |
| 22:05:00 | signal11 | but it locks up a bit too often |
| 22:05:10 | signal11 | ram issues i think, "only" 16M |
| 22:05:36 | signal11 | i want to do that voice over ip stuff! |
| 22:05:39 | signal11 | that looked cool |
| 22:05:47 | signal11 | did you see the slashdot article? |
| 22:07:17 | CosmicPenguin | hey signal11 -- what are the channel types in the channelinfo structure? |
| 22:18:14 | andersee | Russ|werk: Doesn't compile... |
| 22:18:27 | andersee | /home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/stage/usr/bin/arm-uclibc-gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/home/andersen/tuxscreen/buildroot-tux/build/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -Os -mapcs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fno-common -pipe -mapcs-32 -march=armv4 -mtune=strongarm1100 -mshort-load-bytes -msoft-float -DKBUILD_BASENAME=shannon -c -o shannon.o shannon.c |
| 22:18:27 | andersee | shannon.c: In function `shannon_init_irq': |
| 22:18:27 | andersee | shannon.c:34: `SHANNON_GPIO_IRQ_SPI_RTS' undeclared (first use in this function) |
| 22:20:03 | Russ|werk | andersee: check that against shannon.h |
| 22:20:08 | Russ|werk | or comment the line out- |
| 22:20:16 | Russ|werk | its for work I'm doing on the wheaties driver |
| 22:22:21 | ][N-Flux | is back (gone 17:05:09) |
| 22:23:53 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: you missed changing LINUX_VERSION in linux.mk - want I should check it in? |
| 22:24:06 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: yes |
| 22:24:43 | andersee | Russ|werk: And what is _Ser3UTCR0? |
| 22:24:52 | andersee | Russ|werk: Sigh. |
| 22:25:27 | CosmicPenguin | realizes its not funny to talk in mob hitman dialect when you are typing in IRC |
| 22:25:48 | Russ|werk | you'll have to include the serial headers |
| 22:25:51 | Russ|werk | (see assabet.c) |
| 22:28:02 | CosmicPenguin | wonders why Don included the jpeg source in the FLTK makefile |
| 22:35:27 | CosmicPenguin | Woo-hoo! flnx succesfully compiled, and I got a 50% reduction in size from the standard arm compiler |
| 22:36:13 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: very cool. :) |
| 22:38:05 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: its all thanks to you |
| 22:39:27 | andersee | is waiting to try out CosmicPenguin's phone app |
| 22:39:49 | CosmicPenguin | I'll take it to Jackson with me at hack at it a bit - |
| 22:41:18 | CosmicPenguin | Uhhh - I can't get blob to pass ./configure |
| 22:42:02 | pashdown | hello, i can't seem to get on the vitanuova site. can someone send or give me a url for inferno? |
| 22:43:14 | pashdown | infernoremote that is |
| 22:51:42 | CosmicPenguin | wow - Don't type 'make blob' after you download an update for the kernel ... you get a big ol arm-uclibc-linux not found message |
| 22:54:39 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: I updated the make for blob this afternoon... |
| 22:55:07 | CosmicPenguin | I just updated right now..... something about the compiler not being able to make an a.out |
| 22:55:23 | CosmicPenguin | hold on - I'll get back to the blob scene (had to rebuild the kenrel) |
| 22:58:07 | pashdown | can anyone help me with what i need from vitanuova? |
| 22:58:38 | Morn | hey |
| 22:58:49 | Morn | I just got a login to gdm via IE |
| 22:58:54 | Morn | the jar file is only 210k |
| 23:00:10 | CosmicPenguin | no way... :) |
| 23:00:46 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: couple problems - first, I don't have autoheader |
| 23:00:58 | CosmicPenguin | and secondly, I know what the problem is.... |
| 23:01:10 | CosmicPenguin | I'm using autoconv 2.52 |
| 23:01:18 | CosmicPenguin | s/autoconv/autoconf/ |
| 23:01:27 | CosmicPenguin | Ugh |
| 23:02:41 | pashdown | beuller? |
| 23:03:39 | andersee | I have autoconf 2.53 here, and it supplies /usr/bin/autoheader |
| 23:06:20 | CosmicPenguin | locate autoheader |
| 23:06:29 | CosmicPenguin | > /opt/experimental/bin/autoheader |
| 23:06:59 | CosmicPenguin | heads to rpmfind to get 2.53 |
| 23:07:24 | CosmicPenguin | With 2.52 you had to specify --build=arm-linux instead of just arm-linux |
| 23:11:38 | CosmicPenguin | ok, now we're rolling |
| 23:11:54 | CosmicPenguin | still had to add --host=arm-linux to the configure line though |
| 23:16:19 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: Do you have a java enabled browser and can try something for me? |
| 23:22:25 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: MY KEYBOARD IS STUCK IN CAPS LOCK I HAVE TO REBOOT I WILL LOG ON FROM HOME |
| 23:22:27 | CosmicPenguin | BYE |
| 23:22:43 | andersee | Russ|werk: is this normal? |
| 23:22:46 | andersee | Initializing RT netlink socket |
| 23:22:46 | andersee | Starting kswapd |
| 23:22:46 | andersee | JFFS2 version 2.1. (C) 2001 Red Hat, Inc., designed by Axis Communications AB. |
| 23:22:46 | andersee | ttySA0 at MEM 0x80050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 |
| 23:22:46 | andersee | ttySA1 at MEM 0x80010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 |
| 23:22:47 | andersee | Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 000001d0 |
| 23:22:49 | andersee | pgd = c0004000 |
| 23:22:51 | andersee | *pgd = 00000000, *pmd = 00000000 |
| 23:22:53 | andersee | Internal error: Oops: 0 |
| 23:22:55 | andersee | CPU: 0 |
| 23:22:57 | andersee | [-------rest of oops snipped---------] |
| 23:23:18 | andersee | I think I'll go back to the old version of snannon.c |
| 23:24:10 | jacques | hello you lucky people |