| 00:02:37 | Tangent | I upgraded to 0.6 so I could get a working touchscreen driver... but it appears that broken NFS |
| 00:02:39 | mallum | hey tangent, jacques |
| 00:02:46 | Tangent | mallum: Evening |
| 00:03:46 | mallum | my cats are disfunctional |
| 00:05:18 | Tangent | mallum: What are they doing? |
| 00:05:24 | Tangent | mallum: Mine's just sleeping |
| 00:06:13 | mallum | Tangent: just went to go to bed. last night one of the cats had pulled the bedroom antique curtains down yet again .... |
| 00:06:39 | mallum | Tangent: went to put the curtains back up, but discovered another one of the cats had shit all over it :(( |
| 00:06:57 | Tangent | mallum: I understand that a water pistol is the generally recognised way of teaching cats not to climb curtains |
| 00:07:07 | Tangent | mallum: Eurgh.. grim |
| 00:07:17 | mallum | Tangent: he dont climb em, just pull ems down |
| 00:07:22 | Tangent | bad cats... naughty cats |
| 00:07:44 | cpenguin_home | Tangent: sink sprayers do a good job of keeping them off of counters too |
| 00:08:16 | Tangent | cpenguin_home: Good idea... mine's just started getting interested in the kitchen worksurfaces |
| 00:08:56 | Tangent | cpenguin_home: http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/piccies/Deely/On_Monitor_Asleep.jpg |
| 00:09:13 | Tangent | should crop 3/4 of that image away |
| 00:11:25 | mallum | Tangent: any work yet ? |
| 00:11:29 | cpenguin_home | Thats a big freeking picture |
| 00:11:44 | Tangent | mallum: No.. nothing yet... but a couple of potentials in the pipeline |
| 00:11:56 | mallum | Tangent: me nether :(( |
| 00:12:00 | Tangent | mallum: Nothing from jobserve tho'... These are both through mates.. |
| 00:12:10 | Tangent | and neither one is a job I'd choose if I wasn't getting desperate |
| 00:13:22 | Tangent | Now.. if I could just find 20,000 people who'd want to buy my homeautomation setup... I'd be sorted |
| 00:14:18 | Russ|werk | poor cat, its windows |
| 00:14:32 | Austin | Heh, ditto, only my gig is industrial automation. |
| 00:14:33 | Tangent | Russ|werk: Why do you think she was asleep |
| 00:14:39 | Russ|werk | heh |
| 00:14:46 | Tangent | Russ|werk: She likes to watch kernel compiles on text mode consoles :) |
| 00:14:58 | Tangent | Russ|werk: She's a very spod cat... |
| 00:15:01 | cpenguin_home | Russ|werk: it heats up the monitor nicely... :) |
| 00:15:17 | Tangent | Russ|werk: She's been learning how to wire up a max232 chip today... |
| 00:15:57 | Tangent | Russ: Managed to remove two of the capacitors from my bit of breadboard before I notiecd her playing... |
| 00:16:04 | Russ|werk | Tangent: do you have any left over? |
| 00:16:32 | Tangent | Russ|werk: Always.. I'm well stocked :) |
| 00:16:41 | Russ|werk | what footprint? |
| 00:17:00 | Russ|werk | er, wait |
| 00:17:00 | Russ|werk | those are the 5V one |
| 00:17:00 | Russ|werk | s |
| 00:17:08 | Tangent | Russ|werk: Yep.. 5 V ones.. |
| 00:17:14 | Tangent | Russ|werk: You want the 3232 |
| 00:17:37 | Russ|werk | 3223 |
| 00:17:58 | Tangent | Russ|werk: The only 3232 I have is sitting on shanip232 pcb waiting for me to solder it into my second tux |
| 00:18:12 | Tangent | Russ|werk: It's been sitting there for about 6 months so far |
| 00:18:15 | Russ|werk | heh |
| 00:18:56 | Tangent | I'll get around to it once I get my homeautomation stuff running on the first tux |
| 00:19:09 | Tangent | which will be some time after I get x working again |
| 00:19:12 | Tangent | erm.. nfs |
| 00:30:31 | Tangent | maybe I should use the buildroot stuff instead |
| 00:30:46 | Tangent | I didn't want to put in that much effort tho |
| 00:30:54 | Tangent | is good at minimum effort |
| 00:37:11 | cpenguin_home | Tangent: you'll let us know when you get your home automation up, right? |
| 00:42:52 | Tangent | cpenguin_home: It's up now :) |
| 00:43:08 | Tangent | cpenguin_home: I've spent the last 9 months working on it... on and off |
| 00:44:02 | Tangent | cpenguin_home: Incomplete pages here... http://ipaq.secret.org.uk/HomeAutomation/HA_Main.htm |
| 00:44:13 | Tangent | cpenguin_home: Haven't finished doing the pages yet... nor the project |
| 00:44:28 | Tangent | cpenguin_home: I doubt if I ever will finish doing the project |
| 00:44:52 | cpenguin_home | Ahh... the story of my life |
| 00:45:02 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: good evening |
| 00:45:40 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: evening |
| 00:45:59 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: just got back from "worst buy" getting a notebook |
| 00:46:39 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: why did you go there? |
| 00:46:57 | cpenguin_home | they still have those wireless POS points right? |
| 00:47:03 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: they had a toshiba laptop on sale |
| 00:47:25 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ya i notice 2 being used and the access points had the essid printed on them |
| 00:47:57 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: buncha idiots |
| 00:48:55 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: ya some teenage dude was try to explain the great features of xp and using msn |
| 00:49:19 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: its "look why can you NOT understand, i want to buy the laptop, thats it!" |
| 00:53:10 | Russ|werk | tell them you are a l33t h4x0r and msn has excommunicated you |
| 00:53:19 | Russ|werk | and you can't get msn internet anymore, and what a hell it is |
| 00:54:52 | prpplague | Russ|werk: well i hope i don't have to return it because right after i payed for it, i broke the xp cd and asked the "sales" guy to put it in the trash |
| 00:55:11 | Russ|werk | how did you do that? |
| 00:55:37 | prpplague | Russ|werk: open box, remove cd, bend cd till it pops |
| 00:56:41 | Russ|werk | in front of the sales guy |
| 00:56:44 | prpplague | ya |
| 00:56:49 | prpplague | it was priceless |
| 00:57:24 | Russ|werk | I wish I knew an easy way to just get a refund after not accepting the EULA |
| 00:57:50 | prpplague | ya me too |
| 01:01:56 | jacques | buy if you dont buy mshits os you must be a pirate |
| 01:02:07 | prpplague | lol |
| 01:02:07 | jacques | because it's the only os |
| 01:03:07 | Tangent | If you do buy M$ os then you need to become a pirate to get a useable machine for a reasonable cost |
| 01:03:37 | cpenguin_home | is away: mmmm... dinner |
| 01:04:27 | prpplague | you know i expect some crap, but i almost didn't buy it |
| 01:05:13 | jacques | i cant blieve we still cant buy laptops without windows |
| 01:05:38 | Tangent | jacques: Oh.. have apple stopped making them? |
| 01:06:01 | jacques | my work vaio got its disc wiped within minutes so i could put linux on it |
| 01:06:09 | jacques | Tangent: heh :-) |
| 01:06:33 | Tangent | jacques: my viao got wiped too.. but I put windows on a small partition so I can still play games |
| 01:06:40 | prpplague | jacques: you can get some from www.emperorlinux.com but they kinda expensive there |
| 01:06:49 | jacques | hmm |
| 01:08:15 | prpplague | jacques: supposedly they have a deal with dell and ibm to purchase without m$, but that might be bogus |
| 01:08:51 | jacques | hmmmmm |
| 01:09:13 | prpplague | man this toshiba runs hot |
| 01:19:13 | Tangent | bzcat /home/jim/buildroot-tux/sources/dl/zlib-1.1.4.tar.bz2 | tar -C /home/jim/buildroot-tux/build -xvf - |
| 01:19:13 | Tangent | bzcat: /home/jim/buildroot-tux/sources/dl/zlib-1.1.4.tar.bz2 is not a bzip2 file. |
| 01:19:33 | Tangent | It's telling the truth.. the file is not a valid bz2 archive |
| 01:22:05 | cpenguin_home | is back (gone 00:18:21) |
| 01:22:57 | Tangent | propper archive is 155K |
| 01:23:06 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: whats for dinner? |
| 01:23:48 | cpenguin_home | pork chops |
| 01:34:27 | Sammy | morning... |
| 01:34:46 | Tangent | Sammy: Hi |
| 01:36:23 | Tangent | falls asleep waiting for buildroot to finish building |
| 01:40:57 | cpenguin_home | falls asleep downloading gcc-3.1 |
| 01:43:18 | cpenguin_home | wishes he could draw |
| 01:59:09 | Tangent | matchbox-0.2.1/doc/matchbox.1.in |
| 01:59:09 | Tangent | touch /home/jim/buildroot-tux/build/matchbox-0.2.0/.package |
| 01:59:30 | Tangent | Spot the obvious mistake... downloaded 0.2.1... tries to build 0.2.0 |
| 01:59:36 | Tangent | I'm going to bed... |
| 01:59:40 | Tangent | night all |
| 02:47:58 | prpplague | andersee: howdeee |
| 02:49:18 | cpenguin_home | wb andersee - I trust the CD worked? |
| 02:50:09 | andersee | cpenguin_home: yup |
| 02:50:36 | andersee | cpenguin_home: unlike the last one... |
| 02:50:45 | andersee | prpplague: evening |
| 02:50:59 | andersee | I think I will make the uClibc 0.9.12 relese now. |
| 02:54:36 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: remember this moment - history is being made.... :) |
| 02:55:09 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: lol, why? because of the uClibc release? |
| 02:58:06 | prpplague | argh, something in rhat7.3 install keeps crash on this toshiba |
| 02:59:37 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: its probably the rhat7.3 install... thats a known bug.. :) |
| 03:00:14 | prpplague | man we are having a crime spree here, 4 convience store robberies in since the first of the year |
| 03:00:26 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: haha |
| 03:02:07 | prpplague | thats more robberies than we had in the last 2 years together |
| 03:05:45 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: you must live in a small town then? |
| 03:08:42 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: east texas |
| 03:08:57 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: the city i live in is 125,000 |
| 03:12:22 | ][N-Flux | is away: Bed... |
| 03:23:05 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: thats bigger than all of my previous home towns |
| 03:23:05 | cpenguin_home | is going to get some water and let my girlfriend use the computer |
| 03:23:05 | cpenguin_home | bye |
| 04:10:27 | andersee | sigh. Looks like I also broke gethostbyaddr_r() |
| 04:47:24 | Russ | anyone tested the new flash code? |
| 04:50:36 | andersee | Not yet... Was going to last night, but I keep finding uClibc bugs that need fixing... |
| 04:52:01 | andersee | is currently fixing DNS resolution... |
| 04:53:13 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: I finished the "telephone" part of my app |
| 04:53:24 | cpenguin_home | prpplague: next up - the addresses |
| 04:54:32 | andersee | cpenguin_home: cool! |
| 04:54:52 | andersee | cpenguin_home: Using microwindows? fltk? C++ working ok for you? |
| 04:56:49 | cpenguin_home | andersee: haven't tried to compile it for arm yet |
| 04:57:41 | cpenguin_home | I haven't even build buildroot yet |
| 04:57:45 | cpenguin_home | s/build/built/ |
| 04:58:00 | andersee | heh |
| 04:58:23 | cpenguin_home | I'm going to upgrade the microwindows with a huge honkn' patch of good stuff that Greg has ignored up to this point |
| 04:59:24 | cpenguin_home | Anyway, thats all in the future, because it is bed time now |
| 04:59:39 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: cool |
| 04:59:53 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: got the dvd running farly well on the new laptop |
| 05:00:14 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: love the "illegal" decss |
| 05:00:30 | andersee | prpplague: using videolan? |
| 05:00:42 | prpplague | andersee: xine |
| 05:01:02 | cpenguin_home | xine is pretty good - though the later versions aren't as good with decss |
| 05:01:10 | andersee | I've tried xine. it sucked... |
| 05:01:20 | andersee | I've had very good results with videolan though |
| 05:01:20 | prpplague | andersee: really, what do you use? |
| 05:01:31 | andersee | They even have an apt feed... |
| 05:01:44 | andersee | # Videolan |
| 05:01:44 | andersee | deb ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ debian/ |
| 05:01:44 | andersee | deb-src ftp://ftp.videolan.org/pub/videolan/ debian/ |
| 05:01:55 | Russ | also try ogle |
| 05:01:56 | Russ | really |
| 05:02:00 | Russ | cool /me adds |
| 05:02:04 | andersee | See http://videolan.org/ |
| 05:02:14 | Russ | deb http://marillat.free.fr/ unstable main is also a good one |
| 05:02:15 | prpplague | cool thanks |
| 05:02:51 | cpenguin_home | I tried videolan like a year ago, and it sucked |
| 05:03:11 | cpenguin_home | but I hear it has gotten better |
| 05:03:43 | andersee | It works quite nicely for me. Better framerates, less skips, etc. |
| 05:04:07 | cpenguin_home | how well does our friend decss work with it? |
| 05:05:46 | andersee | Works fine. They provide libdvdcss2 source, .debs and .rpms from the videolan site... |
| 05:07:34 | cpenguin_home | How about menu support? |
| 05:12:13 | andersee | Thats the one thing videolan lacks. You have to select things manually -- no dvd virtual machine. |
| 05:12:50 | andersee | neither xine or ogle had that either last I looked... |
| 05:15:08 | cpenguin_home | xine has it in CVS, but doesn't integrate very well with decss |
| 05:15:16 | cpenguin_home | Anyway, its time for bead |
| 05:15:19 | cpenguin_home | bed, eaven |
| 05:15:21 | cpenguin_home | even |
| 05:15:23 | cpenguin_home | is tired |
| 05:15:24 | cpenguin_home | bye! |
| 05:15:26 | prpplague | cpenguin_home: night |
| 05:23:55 | prpplague | andersee: argh, the rpm builds are terrible |
| 05:23:57 | jacques | i want a dvd player that does menus dammit |
| 05:51:52 | Russ | ogle works for menus |
| 05:51:54 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ogle run pretty good? |
| 05:51:54 | Russ | ya, I don't know how well it handles problems thought (scractches, etc) |
| 05:51:54 | prpplague | Russ: got a url? |
| 05:51:54 | Russ | its a debian package |
| 05:51:54 | prpplague | Russ: i got xine running ok, but skips often |
| 05:51:55 | Russ | Suggests: ogle-gui, wget, libdvdcss0 |
| 05:51:55 | prpplague | Russ: ahh |
| 05:51:55 | prpplague | Russ: i'm running rhat |
| 05:52:01 | Russ | File->open disc |
| 05:52:09 | Russ | it'll start playing right away |
| 05:52:25 | Russ | to get the root menu, click on the icon with all the horizontal lines, then click root |
| 05:53:09 | Russ | there is even a resume option, so you can play around in the root menu, then resume playing the movie |
| 05:54:01 | Russ | it switches between languages instantly, which is fun |
| 05:55:21 | Russ | uses about 22% cpu on my athlon 1040MHz with TNT2 |
| 05:55:31 | Russ | er, geforce2 MX 200 or something |
| 05:55:36 | Russ | what the hell is in here |
| 05:55:49 | Russ | MX 400 |
| 05:56:53 | prpplague | Russ: OH ya, ogle is much better than xine |
| 05:57:03 | prpplague | and menus work |
| 05:57:05 | Russ | its made to play dvd's from the start |
| 05:59:46 | prpplague | Russ:thats odd the, edit-properties doesn't work |
| 06:00:18 | Russ | ya, I don't think its implemented |
| 06:00:35 | Russ | I was going to take a screenshot, but I couldn't turn off xv |
| 06:03:06 | prpplague | Russ: its still a little jumpy, but it'll do |
| 06:03:14 | Russ | what cpu do you have |
| 06:03:20 | prpplague | 1.6 p4 |
| 06:03:26 | Russ | video card? |
| 06:04:48 | prpplague | s3 savage |
| 06:05:17 | Russ | is xv up and going? |
| 06:05:48 | Russ | xvinfo should say something |
| 06:06:50 | prpplague | Russ: yes it appears to be running, i get some detailed info with the xvinfo command |
| 06:07:09 | Russ | odd that its jerky, its very smooth here |
| 06:07:25 | prpplague | what speed is your dvd-rom? |
| 06:07:41 | Russ | don't know, 1x? |
| 06:08:12 | Russ | er |
| 06:08:17 | Russ | AOpen 12X DVD-ROM/ASH 01112001 |
| 06:08:45 | prpplague | Russ: this is a cd-rw/dvd |
| 06:09:05 | prpplague | Russ: i probably have something miss configured |
| 06:09:27 | prpplague | Russ: i used the pre-built rpms, porbably need to do a build from source |
| 06:10:30 | Russ | "Note[ogle_vout]: Xv adaptor "NV10 Video Overlay" port 86 image format 842094169" |
| 06:18:04 | prpplague | Russ: where are you seeing that? on the xvinfo? |
| 06:18:26 | Russ | when I run ogle, and open a disk |
| 06:19:33 | prpplague | Russ: i'm not seeing that |
| 06:19:39 | prpplague | Russ: let me double check |
| 06:20:59 | prpplague | Russ: ok ya its seeing the Xv adapter |
| 06:21:33 | Russ | what frame rate do you get? |
| 06:21:37 | Russ | I think 24 is what you want |
| 06:23:23 | prpplague | frame rate: 30000/1001 (29.97) |
| 06:23:42 | Russ | are they any `!`'s? |
| 06:24:17 | prpplague | Russ: ya , lots of warnings about audio resyncing |
| 06:24:35 | Russ | I don't get those |
| 06:25:17 | prpplague | hmm, its probably the rpms |
| 06:25:50 | prpplague | ya it looks like with all the !!'s i'm geting about 18fps |
| 06:39:27 | | spacecoaster was last seen on #tuxscreen 62 days, 14 hours, 22 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: so a shanip board, do the current kernels support audio (if a shanip is installed) ? [Thu Apr 18 17:17:11 2002] |
| 06:39:27 | Russ | ibot: seen spacecoaster |
| 06:47:14 | prpplague | Russ: helps to read the manual |
| 06:47:25 | prpplague | Russ: just needed to turn dma's on |
| 06:47:53 | prpplague | Russ: thanks for the help |
| 06:54:59 | prpplague | is in heaven with "the good, the bad, and the ugly" playing from dvd on his laptop under linux |
| 08:25:55 | bl0w3r_ | hi! |
| 11:12:02 | scanline | is away: taking a break for breakfast and some Cowboy Bebop |
| 11:52:30 | scanline | is back (gone 00:40:28) |
| 12:33:59 | Tangent | mallum : buildroot-tux tries to build the wrong version of matchbox... Don't know if you're the man to tell |
| 12:34:31 | Tangent | mallum: It downloads and unpacks 0.2.1... then tries to build 0.2.0... which fails unsurprisingly |
| 12:35:26 | mallum | Tangent: how do you mean 'tries to build 0.2.0' ? |
| 12:35:39 | Tangent | matchbox-0.2.1/doc/Makefile.in |
| 12:35:39 | Tangent | matchbox-0.2.1/doc/matchbox.1.in |
| 12:35:39 | Tangent | touch /home/jim/buildroot-tux/build/matchbox-0.2.0/.package |
| 12:35:40 | Tangent | touch: creating `/home/jim/buildroot-tux/build/matchbox-0.2.0/.package': No such file or directory |
| 12:36:01 | Tangent | make: *** [/home/jim/buildroot-tux/build/matchbox-0.2.0/.package] Error 1 |
| 12:36:15 | mallum | Tangent: hmm, the build scripts are broke, I think tomW, jaques did em |
| 12:36:54 | Tangent | mallum: Yep.. I just fixed it in matchbox.mk |
| 12:37:07 | mallum | Tangent: cool |
| 13:00:12 | Tangent | make[1]: *** [compr_zlib.o] Error 1 |
| 13:00:16 | Tangent | :( |
| 14:15:29 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:19:25 | TomW | morning all. |
| 14:21:42 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - check this out: http://www.emsoftltd.com/index.php?action=nanogtk |
| 14:23:11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 14:23:20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you see that link? |
| 14:24:24 | scanline | interesting |
| 14:26:32 | scanline | I wonder how big it would be in practise.. their demo binaries are 10MB, compressed |
| 14:26:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmmm, that warrants some reading |
| 14:26:45 | prpplague | bookmarks |
| 14:27:29 | file | waves to prpplague |
| 14:27:40 | scanline | waves to file |
| 14:27:49 | file | stabs scanline |
| 14:27:53 | scanline | ow |
| 14:27:59 | scanline | bleeds a little |
| 15:00:52 | CosmicPenguin | is building Alex's tree with new tile, stipple and dashed line support |
| 15:30:11 | CosmicPenguin | starts a new buildroot-tux build |
| 15:40:21 | CosmicPenguin | goes back to parsing TV show data |
| 15:41:09 | CosmicPenguin | mmmm perl |
| 15:41:39 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: mmmm fortran77 |
| 15:42:21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm a bit too young to remember that.... |
| 15:42:51 | CosmicPenguin | Not a whole lot of Fortran floating around northern Wyoming in the early '80s |
| 15:44:18 | scanline | is away: standing in the wet room |
| 15:49:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, i did f77 in college in 1988 |
| 15:53:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so did all of my (not computer) engineering friends.... us computer types jumped right into the bad stuff.... C and C++ |
| 15:54:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: bad=good? or bad=bad? |
| 15:55:18 | CosmicPenguin | It depends on your point of view, I guess..... |
| 15:55:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 15:56:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well the worst language i've ever used was cobol |
| 15:56:15 | CosmicPenguin | I'll bet |
| 15:56:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: it was shear terror |
| 15:56:29 | CosmicPenguin | has never used Cobol, thank goodness |
| 15:57:14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: trying to teach /me to use cobol is like teaching a woman how to balance a check book |
| 15:57:53 | CosmicPenguin | ducks to avoid any projectiles coming from Morn's direction |
| 16:00:54 | prpplague | enables his "flying cell phone" shield |
| 16:09:40 | scanline | is back (gone 00:25:22) |
| 16:20:56 | CosmicPenguin | kernel.org doesn't seem to like me this morning |
| 16:28:11 | andersee | morning all |
| 16:30:54 | scanline | morning andersee |
| 16:31:02 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: morning |
| 16:31:30 | andersee | is about to tag uClibc 0.9.12 |
| 16:31:49 | andersee | Was going to last night, but kept finding bugs needing to be fixed |
| 16:31:58 | scanline | wishes he had code that was ready to release ;) |
| 16:38:43 | Tangent | TomW: Are you the current maintainer of the buildroot-tux stuff? |
| 16:41:07 | Tangent | TomW: More specifically... would you care if I told you that there's a problem with matchbox.mk and I have a fix too... |
| 16:50:14 | sjhill | andersee: please make a note that the dynamic linker for MIPS works on both big and little endian in the changelog....thx |
| 16:57:43 | scanline | is away: standing in the not-so wet white room with less rubber wallpaper |
| 16:58:00 | andersee | sjhill: k |
| 16:58:05 | andersee | sjhill: done |
| 16:58:20 | sjhill | andersee: thx |
| 17:47:04 | andersee | uClibc 0.9.12 is relesed to the world... |
| 17:47:35 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: are you going to make a new snapshot then? The old one isn't downloading |
| 17:49:16 | andersee | ?? |
| 17:49:30 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: whats wrong with the snapshot? |
| 17:49:51 | CosmicPenguin | Error in server response, closing control connection |
| 17:50:55 | andersee | Which server? |
| 17:53:39 | CosmicPenguin | uclibc.org |
| 18:05:27 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: Was probably in the middle of rsync-ing. Try again now? |
| 18:07:18 | CosmicPenguin | doesn't look like it will succeed |
| 18:08:35 | andersee | Tried the .de mirror? http://de.busybox.net/uclibc.org/downloads/ |
| 18:09:25 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - after lunch though... :) |
| 18:17:56 | andersee | falls asleep |
| 19:35:14 | scanline | is back (gone 02:37:31) |
| 19:35:26 | CosmicPenguin | back from lunch |
| 20:06:52 | scanline | is away: food! |
| 20:19:48 | Russ|werk | anyone tested the new flash driver yet? |
| 20:29:13 | fontenot | new flash driver? |
| 20:31:32 | Russ|werk | yes, in blob cvs |
| 20:31:47 | Russ|werk | with new anti-brick technology (TM)* |
| 20:32:01 | Russ|werk | * (these claims have yet to be independantly verified) |
| 20:32:13 | Russ|werk | which is why I need people to test it |
| 21:26:11 | scanline | is back (gone 01:19:20) |
| 21:46:11 | scanline | is away: catching a Z or two... |
| 22:20:32 | CosmicPenguin | whats the uclibc c++ secret again? |
| 22:27:47 | CosmicPenguin | Who was it that was having the FLNX configure problems? |
| 22:39:27 | toot | hey this is a bit of a stab in the dark, but has anyone heard of an app called nauser? its a phone status linux command app? |
| 22:39:56 | CosmicPenguin | It might interest you to know that between the 12th of June and the 30th of June, there are more than 48,000 different shows on TV in the Unted States |
| 22:41:43 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: are you ok? |
| 22:42:29 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: ??? |
| 22:43:37 | Russ|werk | just an odd statement |
| 22:43:58 | CosmicPenguin | is working on Electronic Program Guides for settop boxes |
| 22:49:55 | CosmicPenguin | And did you know that only 658 of those are in black and white? |
| 22:52:22 | CosmicPenguin | Or that MASH is on an incredible 264 times during that span, resulting in a mind boggling 14 episodes a day? |
| 22:54:48 | levi__ | That's a lot of really trivial information. Where's it coming from? |
| 22:56:17 | CosmicPenguin | levi__: I am parsing tv listings to show on a set top box and I am grepping the resulting list from my parser |
| 22:56:56 | levi__ | Cool. That's a lot of MASH. |
| 22:57:40 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: is that for us tv, or german tv |
| 22:57:49 | CosmicPenguin | us TV |
| 23:04:38 | Morn | records almost every episode of MASH |
| 23:04:41 | Morn | I'm a big fan |
| 23:07:40 | jacques | Morn: you record 14 episodes per day?? |
| 23:12:34 | Morn | no 4 |
| 23:12:38 | Morn | that's all that is on for me |
| 23:13:04 | Morn | I record them on the computer |
| 23:14:11 | jacques | Morn: do you record them on windows or linux? |
| 23:14:27 | Morn | windows |
| 23:14:37 | jacques | oh :-( |
| 23:14:38 | Morn | I used linux for a little while to do this |
| 23:14:45 | Morn | but the windows software I use is much better |
| 23:14:48 | Morn | sorry |
| 23:15:03 | jacques | i keep hoping for good linux software - I already have a tivo, but I like to roll me own |
| 23:15:14 | jacques | dont get me wrong - the tivo is great |
| 23:15:28 | Morn | the trouble I saw was the tivo was you couldn't get the video off it |
| 23:15:43 | Morn | I can stream the video I get from this software to my iPAQ |
| 23:15:55 | Morn | which is kind of cool to watch MASH while on the front porch |
| 23:17:24 | jacques | Morn: that's excellent! :-) |
| 23:17:41 | jacques | Morn: yeah, that's onw readon why I want to roll my own. but I will not use windows for that |
| 23:18:17 | Morn | jacques: I used what was available for linux first, and the windows software fit my needs better, I've always put forth an os was a tool |
| 23:18:56 | Morn | I've got 4 computers on my desk running 3 different OS's |
| 23:19:18 | jacques | Morn: i dont like windows for so many reasons. and now the cost is one of them |
| 23:19:26 | CosmicPenguin | The thing about the MASH statistic, is that these are just national channels - not local ones |
| 23:19:28 | CosmicPenguin | Scary, huh? |
| 23:19:40 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: MASH was popular |
| 23:19:54 | CosmicPenguin | 248 national shows in 18 days though? |
| 23:19:59 | CosmicPenguin | s/shows/episodes/ |
| 23:20:07 | CosmicPenguin | Cheers only has 162 |
| 23:20:24 | Morn | I record some episodes of Cheers too |
| 23:20:30 | Morn | and Home Improvements |
| 23:21:11 | CosmicPenguin | 58 Home Improvements |
| 23:21:59 | Morn | I use SnapStream for recording stuff... and with the new integration with a listings service I can tell it to record all episodes of a particular show |
| 23:22:26 | CosmicPenguin | Whats the best way to sort a hash table in perl? |
| 23:22:45 | Morn | the best way is to not use Perl in the first place :-) |
| 23:22:57 | CosmicPenguin | hehhe... I knew Morn would say that |
| 23:23:08 | Morn | you would have been disappointed if I hadn't |
| 23:26:28 | jacques | sigh |
| 23:26:41 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: wat are you trying to do? |
| 23:27:03 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: why not sort(keys %hash) |
| 23:27:20 | CosmicPenguin | jacques: can I sort on the value of the hash? |
| 23:27:47 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: i think so... trying to remember how |
| 23:30:18 | jacques | CosmicPenguin: ok i found it |
| 23:30:28 | jacques | you have a hash named %elems |
| 23:31:22 | CosmicPenguin | right |
| 23:31:30 | jacques | @list = sort { $elems{$a} <=> $elems{$b} } keys %elems; |
| 23:31:56 | jacques | effective perl programming page 46 |
| 23:32:17 | CosmicPenguin | wow... cool |
| 23:32:53 | jacques | :-) |
| 23:36:53 | CosmicPenguin | That beautiful hack tells me that Planet of the Apes is on 21 times between June 12 and June 31 |
| 23:36:57 | CosmicPenguin | s/31/30/ |
| 23:37:20 | jacques | heh i wish I had all those channels |
| 23:37:29 | jacques | i only have an antenna |
| 23:37:48 | jacques | kind of a waste of a 145hour tivo |
| 23:38:45 | CosmicPenguin | The movie statistics are always screwed up because of Pay per view |
| 23:38:59 | jacques | any way to split them out? |
| 23:39:11 | CosmicPenguin | hmmm..... not with my data |
| 23:39:23 | jacques | nod |
| 23:41:24 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: where are you getting those listings? |
| 23:42:35 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: http://www.tv-now.com/whatis.htm |
| 23:46:29 | Russ|werk | that is why you are getting the info? |
| 23:46:51 | Russ|werk | er, where |
| 23:48:06 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: yep - they just have text files, so we bought a subscription and parsed it (this is just for development purposes) |
| 23:49:57 | Russ|werk | ah, wonder if you can get that info for free anywhere |
| 23:51:29 | CosmicPenguin | Russ|werk: I dunno... its only 30 bucks for a years subscription |
