| 01:38:06 | CosmicPenguin | hello all |
| 01:41:11 | | hello, Tangent |
| 01:41:11 | Tangent | CosmicPenguin: Hi |
| 01:42:12 | CosmicPenguin | I just love having cutting edge hardware :( |
| 01:42:31 | Tangent | CosmicPenguin: Some new toy with no device driver? |
| 01:44:58 | fontenot | me too - I like knives |
| 01:45:48 | Tangent | groans |
| 01:49:12 | CosmicPenguin | Tangent: yeah, brand new motherboard, no source code for audio driver |
| 01:49:29 | CosmicPenguin | Though I just found the alsa driver in CVS |
| 01:50:52 | fontenot | what's the chip? |
| 02:03:36 | fontenot | CosmicPenguin: what chip is it? |
| 02:08:25 | fontenot | LOL the ALSA site has a "stable" release and a "development" release, and a note that the "stable" release is "considered deprecated and is no longer supported by ALSA developers" |
| 02:08:33 | fontenot | i mean, WTF?? |
| 02:09:11 | Tangent | Hahaha... cool :) |
| 02:09:30 | Tangent | that just about sums it all up so well :) |
| 02:10:49 | Tangent | Anyhow... night all |
| 02:11:50 | fontenot | 'night Tangent |
| 02:21:28 | Aelhaz | it's linux after all |
| 02:25:30 | fontenot | darn, now I'll never find out which sound ship it was |
| 02:37:38 | fontenot | ship==chip |
| 03:04:26 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - we're famous... again. |
| 03:05:54 | CosmicPenguin | http://slashdot.org/articles/02/06/16/0210237.shtml?tid=126 |
| 03:08:46 | CosmicPenguin | gotta go |
| 03:18:44 | fontenot | cool. now we can get chicks. |
| 04:34:31 | fontenot | wow are these the new super-micro-sized ones? |
| 04:34:40 | fontenot | motes are really small |
| 04:45:44 | BZFlag | sheesh ;-) |
| 04:49:58 | andersee | slashdotted yet again I see |
| 05:00:04 | BZFlag | oh great. ;-) guess there goes the rest of the phones. ;-) |
| 05:02:36 | andersee | Bet that will hurt your feelings. :) |
| 05:02:44 | andersee | Got any new orders? |
| 05:03:43 | BZFlag | 3 tonight so far. |
| 05:11:22 | BZFlag | 3 more orders. that's like 10 phones in the last 2 hours. |
| 05:11:44 | BZFlag | gotta sleep though. I'll check in tomorrow morning. |
| 05:12:16 | TomW | andersee: BZFlag get slashdot'ed? |
| 05:35:50 | andersee | Seems so... |
| 05:45:03 | TomW | yeah, there it is on slashdot. |
| 05:45:54 | TomW | well, I got mine. I'd hate to see Tim sell out his stock, in a way. It would be a milestone of sorts when that happens. |
| 07:17:21 | Backer | do people here have any of these devices yet? |
| 07:54:34 | ntropy | woohoo! i'm ordering a tux screen next week! |
| 08:01:31 | Russ | hey, neato, /. |
| 08:02:30 | fontenot | noooooooooooooooooooo |
| 08:03:36 | TomW | fontenot: ???????????????????? |
| 08:04:15 | TomW | fontenot: the end of the TuxScreen as we knew it... :-( |
| 08:04:25 | ntropy | whys that? |
| 08:04:33 | ntropy | it's been on /. before |
| 08:04:39 | Russ | TomW: its not like its the first time |
| 08:04:48 | TomW | Russ: heh |
| 08:05:35 | fontenot | heh true |
| 08:05:37 | TomW | Well, I got five, so I shouldn't be greedy.. fontenot has to order his second one yet.. |
| 08:05:48 | fontenot | you mean my second batch |
| 08:05:51 | fontenot | i have 4 |
| 08:05:53 | ntropy | Tim still has a lot, right? |
| 08:06:02 | TomW | ntropy: 200 left |
| 08:06:14 | ntropy | thats what i like to hear ;) |
| 08:06:17 | Russ | geez, $40 for a jtag dongle? |
| 08:06:26 | fontenot | heh i was thinking same thing |
| 08:06:29 | fontenot | what's up with that |
| 08:06:33 | Russ | good thing they are easy to make, I should make some howto or something |
| 08:06:42 | Russ | its mainly obtaining the proper connector |
| 08:06:48 | fontenot | must be triple gold-plated |
| 08:07:02 | TomW | Russ: tim has to make a profit somehow.. |
| 08:07:02 | Russ | I mean the headers that get soldered to the tuxscreen |
| 08:07:15 | Russ | well, the holly gates dongles are cool |
| 08:07:41 | fontenot | i doubt tim is making more on these. it seems more like different supplier or something |
| 08:08:03 | Russ | but TI will send you a sample of AHC logic in a DIL package for free |
| 08:08:39 | Russ | then its just perf board from ratshack, some connectors out of an AT case, maybe a cap, and the headers from digikey |
| 08:09:17 | Russ | I made a pair of ungodly boards at work for test and burn in |
| 08:09:37 | TomW | I use my dremel and a carbide cutoff wheel to make a slot in the underside of the Tux, then use an Amp header to connect to the JTAG. |
| 08:10:03 | Russ | includes serial, some blinken lights, reset, detection of 3.3V sent back to the parport |
| 08:10:25 | TomW | yours has LEDs on it! |
| 08:10:29 | ntropy | so, is it easier if Tim just does the FlashUnlock before he sends it? |
| 08:10:29 | Russ | the cable going to my arm boards is I think 12 pins wide |
| 08:10:45 | Russ | well, ya, so the operator can see a failure/success status |
| 08:11:04 | Russ | ntropy: it depends if you have a 12V source |
| 08:11:05 | fontenot | ntropy: depends how much you are willing to pay for that service |
| 08:11:17 | fontenot | ntropy: it's not difficult |
| 08:11:20 | TomW | ntropy: yeah, the first time, have Tim install the blob for you. It is cheap enough. |
| 08:11:32 | ntropy | TomW: ok, i'll just do that |
| 08:11:44 | Russ | I'm using a hacked up floppy drive cable to carry the signals to the board |
| 08:11:49 | fontenot | how much is that now anyway? |
| 08:11:52 | ntropy | probably the good call, since i want to play with it on the software side |
| 08:12:00 | TomW | ntropy: then when you purchase the next couple of Tux's, do it yourself. ;-) |
| 08:12:07 | ntropy | TomW: good call ;) |
| 08:12:13 | TomW | heh |
| 08:12:56 | fontenot | tuxes are addictive |
| 08:12:59 | ntropy | while i'm sure i can find this in the wiki... the install's to too bad, right? |
| 08:13:44 | TomW | fontenot: finally got the debian-arm xfree86 sources to cross-compile on debian-x86. Got any ideas to put the ts.c touch driver sources into it? |
| 08:14:02 | Russ | oi, If I'm here tomorrow, remind me to fix the reboot before flashing more than one thing blob bug |
| 08:14:34 | Russ | I also need to sort out the missed keys and swith the mongoose and serial flash over to the stock spi code |
| 08:14:36 | fontenot | Russ: coool. it would be nice to have that fixed |
| 08:15:24 | Russ | ya, I also need to get to a few small udhcp fixes |
| 08:15:25 | fontenot | TomW: it should only require replacing the ts.c AFAIR |
| 08:15:31 | Russ | I have such a backlog |
| 08:15:42 | Russ | the backlight kernel patch too |
| 08:15:49 | Russ | I have the oldest outstanding gaim patch |
| 08:16:23 | fontenot | Russ: how about backporting the DMA / PCMCIA / display fix from 2.5 ? |
| 08:16:25 | Russ | http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=300235&group_id=235&func=browse |
| 08:16:26 | fontenot | :-D |
| 08:16:29 | Russ | fontenot: that too |
| 08:17:03 | fontenot | Russ: you use gaim? cool. it's one of my always-running apps |
| 08:17:04 | TomW | fontenot: nope, the whole kdrive stuff that kevin packard did replaces the entire hardware interface to tinyx. Nothing like his code at all in the stock sources.. :-( |
| 08:17:32 | fontenot | TomW: aah, do you know what version they are using now? |
| 08:17:45 | TomW | fontenot: of X? |
| 08:17:50 | Russ | fontenot: yup, I had the filetransfer thing up and going, I used the transfer window from xchat |
| 08:18:01 | fontenot | TomW: you are right - I worked on that for days and never got ts to work right with the new X code |
| 08:18:16 | fontenot | TomW: yeah version of X |
| 08:19:27 | TomW | IIRC, 3.3.6 |
| 08:19:34 | Russ | right now, I'm spending way too much time playing with gnome2 stuff |
| 08:19:44 | fontenot | TomW: that old? ugh |
| 08:20:06 | Russ | xfree86 4.2.0-0pre1v1 available at the X Strike Force |
| 08:20:07 | Russ | woot! |
| 08:20:08 | fontenot | TomW: we worked with like 4.0.1 |
| 08:20:18 | Russ | # Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 00:40:22 -0500 |
| 08:20:42 | TomW | Russ: does it run under debian-arm? |
| 08:20:49 | Russ | that was what, 40 minutes ago? |
| 08:20:49 | Russ | heh |
| 08:20:52 | fontenot | heh remember the days when XFree releases were few and far between if you werent a developer? |
| 08:21:01 | Russ | you mean x, or gnome2 |
| 08:21:14 | Backer | Once these 200 are up, will more become available? Where are these units coming from? |
| 08:21:24 | fontenot | TomW: 4.0.1 should run just fine under debian - we used it for Intimate |
| 08:21:32 | Russ | ya, the packages are being autobuild |
| 08:21:33 | TomW | well, apt-get on debian-arm only pulls in X apps related to 3.3.6, soooo... |
| 08:21:46 | fontenot | Backer: no, these are the last as far as we know |
| 08:21:47 | Russ | oh, you mean X |
| 08:22:03 | Russ | TomW: 3.3.6 and 4.x are co-existing packages |
| 08:22:08 | fontenot | TomW: we built our own X debs for intimate |
| 08:22:35 | Russ | http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/x/xfree86/ |
| 08:22:37 | TomW | Backer: these are surplus units |
| 08:22:37 | Russ | I see arm debs |
| 08:23:07 | Backer | AH |
| 08:23:11 | Backer | were they Lucent phones? |
| 08:23:26 | fontenot | Backer: read the tuxscreen.net site - these are from a scrapped project by philips abd lucent |
| 08:23:35 | Russ | ia64, sparc, s390, powerpc, mipsel, mips, alpha, i386, arm, m68k, hppa |
| 08:23:41 | Russ | definately the cool thing about debian, as long as the cpu power is there, *everything* gets built for every arch |
| 08:23:52 | TomW | Backer: http://TuxScreen.net/wiki/view/Main/SomeHistory |
| 08:23:56 | fontenot | but not necessarily correctly :-\ |
| 08:24:08 | Russ | 4.2 xstrikeforce debs though, thats great, no more xtt problems |
| 08:24:13 | fontenot | autobuild does have its dark side |
| 08:24:29 | fontenot | Russ: what is x strike force? I have never heard of them |
| 08:24:40 | Russ | do you know who branden is? |
| 08:24:49 | fontenot | not offhand |
| 08:25:00 | Russ | http://people.debian.org/~branden/ |
| 08:25:59 | aml | holy shit! beta 4.2 packages! |
| 08:26:09 | fontenot | lol, interesting site |
| 08:26:09 | Russ | oh shit |
| 08:26:13 | Russ | I shouldn't of said anything |
| 08:26:21 | Russ | now they are going to take forever to download |
| 08:26:26 | aml | at least there's progress |
| 08:26:32 | aml | plus i'm only capable of pulling like 3kbps |
| 08:26:59 | aml | er, B |
| 08:27:03 | Russ | ah, I can take about 280 on a good day |
| 08:27:16 | Russ | at school, that number was 600 |
| 08:27:27 | Russ | but alas, those days are gone |
| 08:27:43 | fontenot | 280? wow |
| 08:27:47 | fontenot | i can manage 39.2 |
| 08:28:20 | Backer | TomW: Bad link? I get file not found... |
| 08:28:36 | Russ | ya, cox cable is being a bit on the nazi issue as far as bandwidth issues, but their policing really shows through in increased bandwidth |
| 08:28:43 | Russ | er, nazi side |
| 08:29:15 | TomW | Backer: then goto: http://www.tuxscreen.net, click on "Wiki", then click on "SomeHistory" |
| 08:29:26 | Russ | right now, I'm getting 50kB/s from people.debian.org, its a slower site |
| 08:29:27 | aml | Russ: hook me up with your sources.list line for that repository |
| 08:29:28 | fontenot | uh-oh I guess we have to stop this conversation now |
| 08:29:39 | Russ | its on his page |
| 08:29:49 | Russ | click the hogs/slop link |
| 08:29:53 | aml | oh, fine. thbppt. |
| 08:29:53 | Russ | then click APT |
| 08:30:11 | aml | heh |
| 08:30:25 | Russ | hey cool, root window resizing and rotation is in 4.2 |
| 08:30:43 | Russ | and Xv motion compensation |
| 08:32:10 | TomW | Backer: link works fine under linux & Netscape 4.76 |
| 08:32:11 | aml | hrm |
| 08:32:18 | aml | is there a task package on ~branden? |
| 08:32:31 | Backer | Hrm. Well, I'm there now. :o0 |
| 08:32:33 | Backer | :o) |
| 08:32:41 | aml | x-window-system |
| 08:33:01 | TomW | Russ: that is fine if you have an X86 box though, doesn't do anything for you if you want it in a Tux (ARM). |
| 08:33:11 | aml | the source debs are up, too |
| 08:33:31 | Russ | aml: just apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 08:33:36 | Russ | TomW: you mean 4.2 for arm? |
| 08:33:44 | aml | ah |
| 08:33:54 | Backer | Will development of this hardware continue? |
| 08:33:54 | aml | that would work, but i'm already like 70mb down from the normal apt source |
| 08:34:03 | aml | i'd have to comment those out, update, then dist |
| 08:34:08 | aml | that would work |
| 08:34:09 | Backer | ah, looks like no... |
| 08:34:51 | TomW | Russ: yeah, I don't care about X for an X86 box, I want to cross-compile on the X86 targeted for ARM. |
| 08:34:58 | Russ | aml: ? |
| 08:35:04 | Russ | don't comment out your nomar apt sources |
| 08:35:21 | aml | Russ: to prevent apt from downloading assloads of other crappy unstable updates |
| 08:35:22 | Russ | aml: add the line for the x strike for debs, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 08:35:36 | aml | which is a pain on dialup |
| 08:35:44 | Russ | aml: ok, then apt-get install <all the X packages> |
| 08:35:54 | aml | Russ: yeh, this'll work. |
| 08:35:58 | Russ | aml: whenever I'm on dialup, I just bite the bullet |
| 08:36:05 | Russ | aml: let packages download overnight |
| 08:36:21 | Russ | course, dialup internet access is unmetered here |
| 08:36:24 | aml | Russ: yeah, well, i can get to broadband tomorrow, i just want 4.2 tonight |
| 08:36:43 | Russ | then grab all the debs you need manually, and do dpkg -i |
| 08:36:44 | aml | i live in portland, so i can get wifi broadband all over town. |
| 08:37:08 | Russ | ah, wasn't sure from your domain name where you were geographically |
| 08:45:29 | Backer | these phones were originally meant to run Inferno? Interesting! |
| 08:45:58 | Backer | at least, they come shipped with Inferno... |
| 08:55:45 | TomW | Backer: The inferno is broken, it does work, but the HTML browser sucks (outdate HTML compliance) and the email will recieve but not send. |
| 08:56:38 | TomW | Backer: I played with inferno that is shipped with the Tux, it appears that they never finsihed the software. |
| 08:57:48 | TomW | fontenot: drat, another all-nighter again. The birds are awake now and I still am. |
| 09:07:36 | aml | it appears that mere hours from now, i will score another ebay coup. |
| 09:08:25 | aml | it's extremely odd that a sony battery charger that lists at like $170 is going for $35 bundled with a battery with only 8 hours left |
| 09:13:36 | Russ | aml: I've seen items just 300% in the last minute |
| 09:14:17 | Russ | oh jeez, somebody wants a voip blaster *bad* |
| 09:14:23 | Russ | http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?MfcISAPICommand=GetResult&ht=1&SortProperty=MetaEndSort&ebaytag1code=0&query=voip+blaster |
| 09:15:14 | Russ | talk about a return on your money |
| 09:17:14 | aml | yeah, but i don't think this one will, it's a bad auction writeup |
| 09:17:25 | aml | which normally means it's pretty easy to pick it up, if you can find it |
| 09:18:15 | aml | holy crap |
| 09:18:20 | aml | that's reaaaally expensive |
| 09:18:25 | aml | for a voip blaster |
| 09:18:43 | Russ | no shit, and its going to go up more |
| 09:19:02 | Russ | I'm really surprised creative stopped making them |
| 09:19:11 | Russ | maybe I should RE it and start up production |
| 09:33:30 | aml | they were like 2 for $20 two weeks ago, or something, weren't they? |
| 09:33:50 | Russ | from creative about 2 months ago |
| 09:34:03 | aml | and creative sold out? |
| 09:35:57 | Russ | well, they were selling em so cheap, because in order to use them, you needed to be signed up with some deal |
| 09:36:11 | Russ | wasn't long before someone wrote their own driver |
| 09:36:32 | Russ | and voila, no more subscription service required |
| 09:38:00 | aml | yeah |
| 09:39:04 | aml | if i had known they were going to blow up this much, i would've bought |
| 09:52:53 | TomW | finally! I can build the debian-ARM XF68_FBDev on the X86 workstation, and it runs! |
| 09:54:12 | TomW | only saves about 3 hours... |
| 09:54:57 | Russ | TomW: so branden's 4.2pre source packages just built? |
| 09:56:41 | TomW | Russ: no, the 3.3.6 package did, but what I learned could be used (possibly) to cross the 4.2pre package. Took two / three days to figure out how to make X cross compile. |
| 09:56:59 | TomW | X really is a big mess. |
| 09:58:18 | TomW | next step: start converting one of the touchscreen sources in X over to use the /dev/ucb1x00-ts device. |
| 09:59:08 | TomW | I still cannot figure out where they parse the XF86Config file and get the Ximput devices initialized. |
| 10:00:43 | aml | http://www.arsc.edu/resources/hardware/IDesk.html |
| 11:09:46 | elysium-os | Does anybody have knowledge about the H323 proxy? |
| 12:01:01 | aml | word. i've got 4.2. |
| 12:28:13 | Tangent | considers playing VOIP |
| 13:05:12 | prpplague | if [ $good = 1 ] ; then echo "Morning!" |
| 14:19:16 | Tangent | good = 1 |
| 14:22:43 | prpplague | Tangent: so what |
| 14:30:48 | prpplague | Tangent: argh phone |
| 14:31:01 | prpplague | Tangent: so what is happening in the UK today? |
| 14:48:10 | aml | nothing much, as far as i can tell. several fatal events in the pacific rim, though. |
| 14:56:59 | Speedy2 | So who designed the TuxScreen? |
| 14:57:30 | aml | phillips/lucent, iirc. check the website. |
| 15:05:24 | Speedy2 | Interesting |
| 15:13:44 | | Aelhaz was last seen on #tuxscreen 12 hours, 52 minutes and 16 seconds ago, saying: it's linux after all [Sun Jun 16 03:21:28 2002] |
| 15:13:44 | prpplague | ibot: seen Aelhaz |
| 16:24:08 | prpplague | anyone recomend a console based frontend for mpg123? |
| 16:29:51 | godfather | hi everyone |
| 16:34:50 | godfather | does anyone of you know how much the whole package will cost to germany? |
| 16:43:19 | prpplague | godfather: whole package for what? |
| 16:47:15 | godfather | prpplague: one tuxscreen + tax + shipping, etc... |
| 16:49:31 | prpplague | godfather: ahh, there are few folks that have gotten them shipped to germany, i don't recall if any is here that did |
| 16:49:50 | prpplague | godfather: i'd send an email to timriker and ask |
| 16:51:59 | godfather | prpplague: cool. thank you :-) |
| 16:52:13 | ThomasFromParis | godfather: try to buy one throw a friend who is coming back to germany. I do that with mine to France for just 99$ + 15 $ of shipping to NY |
| 16:54:19 | godfather | ThomasFromParis: i guess that's the best way to do it, but i don't have someone to go to the states soon... |
| 16:54:33 | ThomasFromParis | arg! |
| 16:57:59 | ThomasFromParis | godfather: some belgium peoples said that they got ther tuxscreen for 193 euro with VAT, shipping and a convertor 220-110V |
| 16:58:18 | ThomasFromParis | look at http://bombolong.aisbl.org/index.php?TuxScreen (it's in French) |
| 17:05:35 | ThomasFromParis | is it possible to run mozilla or Opera on a tuxscreen ? |
| 17:06:01 | ThomasFromParis | by the way, hi to everyone... |
| 17:15:38 | Watson | Hello! |
| 17:15:50 | Watson | Hellow BZFlag? |
| 17:16:13 | Watson | whowas BZFlag |
| 17:16:35 | prpplague | Watson: bz isn't here right now |
| 17:16:40 | Watson | oh. |
| 17:16:45 | | prpplague: huh? |
| 17:16:45 | prpplague | ibot: seend BZFlag |
| 17:16:48 | | BZFlag was last seen on #tuxscreen 12 hours, 5 minutes and 4 seconds ago, saying: gotta sleep though. I'll check in tomorrow morning. [Sun Jun 16 06:11:44 2002] |
| 17:16:48 | prpplague | ibot: seen BZFlag |
| 17:16:51 | Watson | I want to know if any TuxScreen is still available |
| 17:17:06 | prpplague | Watson: check the topic |
| 17:17:08 | aml | see the topic |
| 17:17:28 | Watson | good, i'll order one from him |
| 17:18:29 | Watson | thanks, folks |
| 17:18:35 | prpplague | np |
| 17:18:40 | Watson | anybody got a TuxScreen already ? |
| 17:19:16 | prpplague | Watson: lol, just about everyone here as atleast one, and probably 2 or 3 |
| 17:19:20 | aml | uh. yeah. not me, though. |
| 17:19:31 | prpplague | aml: ? |
| 17:19:38 | prpplague | aml: waiting on yours? |
| 17:19:49 | aml | nah, just haven't got around to scraping up the dough |
| 17:19:57 | aml | my friend has one. |
| 17:20:12 | prpplague | aml: you better hurry, with the /. post i figure things might go quick |
| 17:20:25 | aml | yeah |
| 17:20:28 | aml | good point |
| 17:20:58 | prpplague | aml: go infect a local biz with the klez, then charge them to clean it up, lol, that ought to make you some quick money |
| 17:21:29 | aml | haha |
| 17:30:13 | TomW | Russ, you they one collecting kernel patches? |
| 17:30:23 | TomW | s/they/there/ |
| 18:51:04 | Russ | TomW: ya |
| 19:31:06 | prpplague | Russ: hows you camion dev work? your gf make it back EU? |
| 19:32:02 | CosmicPenguin | Afternoon all |
| 19:32:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: holy-penguins batman, CP is here on a sunday! |
| 19:32:47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my new desktop is up and running - I'll be here alot on the weekends / evenings now |
| 19:33:08 | CosmicPenguin | finally got a new system, a new desk, and a TV in his spare bedroom |
| 19:33:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool, that means i can pester you more with <intelligent questions |
| 19:33:37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats what I'm here for... :) |
| 19:33:52 | CosmicPenguin | But only because you use two of my favorite projects... fltk and sqlite |
| 19:33:56 | CosmicPenguin | :-) |
| 19:34:05 | prpplague | lol |
| 19:37:29 | CosmicPenguin | Does anyone know Redhat well enough to tell me how to force an network interface *not* to install a default route? |
| 19:38:07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: /etc/sysconfig/network is where the default route is normally set |
| 19:38:36 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: some dialup tools like wvdial have a flag to change to prevent setting the default route |
| 19:38:55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: actually, I want my dial up to install the default route - the other interface is just for my local network |
| 19:39:17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: problem is - since eth0 comes up at boot time - I have to manaully delete the default route before the dial up can add it again |
| 19:39:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: then remove the "GATEWAY" entry from the /etc/sysconfig/network file |
| 19:39:31 | godfather | cu all |
| 19:39:37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: really? Cool.... |
| 19:40:03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep that oughta do it |
| 19:40:18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: cool |
| 19:40:50 | CosmicPenguin | anyone watching the US open? |
| 19:41:43 | TomW | fontenot: I got a mouse working with the Tux. |
| 19:44:20 | TomW | Russ: ok, I got a minor correction for the serial_sa1100.c driver so that it will allow the use of a mouse on /dev/ttySA0. Should I post this to the mailing list and you can pick it up from there? |
| 19:46:31 | prpplague | anyone here using mozilla |
| 19:46:32 | prpplague | ? |
| 19:46:50 | ThomasFromParis | on tuxscreen ? |
| 19:46:50 | Watson | yes I am using mozilla |
| 19:47:34 | prpplague | no on desktop |
| 19:47:36 | Watson | on my desktop :) |
| 19:47:42 | prpplague | Watson: what release? |
| 19:47:48 | Watson | 1.0 |
| 19:48:16 | lyakh_home | 0.9.8 here |
| 19:48:53 | prpplague | either of you had problems downloading via http lately? |
| 19:49:44 | Watson | nope |
| 19:50:23 | lyakh_home | not that I noticed any... |
| 19:50:30 | lyakh_home | emn, what sort of problems? |
| 19:51:13 | prpplague | when i try to download, i get an empty file and the dl manager reports it completed |
| 19:51:54 | lyakh_home | could be that I've seen something like that... |
| 19:52:19 | prpplague | hm, think i'll dl the lastest release and give it a try |
| 19:52:28 | lyakh_home | strange things do happen with download - e.g. it renames *.gz to * (without unpacking, IIRC) |
| 19:52:49 | prpplague | yep that kinda stuff |
| 19:53:34 | lyakh_home | A bit annoying, but usually there's a way around:-) |
| 19:54:20 | Russ | TomW: ya |
| 19:54:30 | TomW | Russ: k |
| 20:15:15 | lyakh_home | does anybody know why modprobe oopses if I compile the 2.4.18-... kernel myself and use it with the ramdisk from v0.4? |
| 20:15:54 | lyakh_home | ...and erase(all) doesn't work... |
| 20:17:59 | CosmicPenguin | Argh.... RedHat printer support sucks so bad! |
| 20:18:29 | prpplague | lol |
| 20:18:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which printer you needing? |
| 20:18:41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it would be funny if it wasn't so sad |
| 20:18:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: rhat 7.3? |
| 20:19:03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: HP Officejet D135 - I had to add new deamons, and rebuild ghostscript |
| 20:19:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that for rhat 7.3 or 7.2? |
| 20:19:38 | CosmicPenguin | 7.3 |
| 20:19:55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I know it has it in the list - but that driver does *not* work |
| 20:20:05 | CosmicPenguin | Not for the USB, anyway |
| 20:20:11 | prpplague | ahh |
| 20:24:24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you know what else is funny? You need the HP inkjet driver *and* a deamon (hpoj). |
| 20:24:36 | CosmicPenguin | Both projects are sponsored by HP, but neither project bothers linking to the other |
| 20:26:28 | prpplague | ha |
| 20:26:31 | prpplague | that is a good one |
| 20:44:05 | prpplague | is headed home, bbl |
| 21:01:47 | CosmicPenguin | So weird - this thing is not working like I thought it would |
| 21:04:37 | Russ | CosmicPenguin: and I thought it was trouble just having a winprinter (820C) |
| 21:07:49 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: this is very annoying. It works great from my laptop |
| 21:07:59 | CosmicPenguin | bbl - gotta reboot |
| 21:14:20 | w00w00_ | does anyone know if tim has any more phones, or did slashdot people claim them all? |
| 21:44:42 | CosmicPenguin | whew - finally |
| 21:49:35 | CosmicPenguin | clear |
| 21:49:40 | CosmicPenguin | doh - wrong screen |
| 22:08:22 | CosmicPenguin | anyone here use balsa for email? |
| 22:09:57 | Aelhaz | I use sylpheed |
| 22:12:06 | CosmicPenguin | Aelhaz: never heard of it - is it graphical or text based? |
| 22:12:33 | Aelhaz | gtk+ |
| 22:12:38 | Aelhaz | written by a japanese fellow |
| 22:12:59 | Aelhaz | i actually use the sylpheed-claws variant, which includes a lot of patches the author hasn't the time to integrate |
| 22:13:24 | Aelhaz | it has good integration with gnupg, ssl support, other good stuff |
| 22:15:00 | Aelhaz | sylpheed-claws.sf.net or sylpheed.good-day.net (not sure about the second one) |
| 22:16:02 | CosmicPenguin | Good lord - reading IMAP on a dial up account is murder |
| 22:16:36 | Aelhaz | heh |
| 22:16:45 | Aelhaz | try reading IMAP in a telnet session some time |
| 22:16:54 | Aelhaz | (and yeah, I mean, telnetting to the imap server |
| 22:16:56 | Aelhaz | ) |
| 22:20:26 | Aelhaz | sylpheed is also a half decent nntp client, for, you know, written content. no good for binaries |
| 23:05:23 | file | hi Russ *cough* |
| 23:06:09 | Russ | sick? |
| 23:06:22 | file | yes |
| 23:06:28 | file | getting better though |
| 23:07:17 | file | anything new with you? |
| 23:07:22 | Russ | nope |
| 23:10:09 | prpplague | Russ: doing anything more with the camion? |
| 23:10:22 | Russ | I need to fix the blob flash thing first |
| 23:11:47 | prpplague | Russ: what blob flash thing is that? |
| 23:11:59 | Russ | the one where you flash two things and lose blob |
| 23:12:48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague! wb |
| 23:13:01 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: can you believe it? I finally got everything working |
| 23:13:09 | file | twitches |
| 23:13:40 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: great! |
| 23:13:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that /etc/sysconfig/network do the trick? |
| 23:13:58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah |
| 23:24:23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you into golf? |
| 23:28:37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if [ ! $computers || $beer || $scifi ] ; then echo $1 > /dev/null |
| 23:39:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you every seen a paint program written on fltk? |
| 23:41:56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: never - I don't know if FLTK can handle much more than basic painting |
| 23:42:04 | CosmicPenguin | there is no Fl_Canvas |
| 23:43:00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was thinking pretty simple, mobile device type stuff |
| 23:43:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the original yopy in w-windows had a great little sketch program for making notes/maps/diagrams |
| 23:43:53 | prpplague | Xpaint has way too many options |
| 23:45:27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: In theory, it shouldn't be too tough - you would probably have to dip into X to read the window and write the resulting image file though |
| 23:54:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can't you just use the the Fl_Draw function for creating an image? |
| 23:55:48 | file | returns |
| 23:59:51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.fltk.org/doc-1.0/drawing.html#fast |