| 00:00:06 | file | no |
| 00:00:11 | file | when I'm 19. |
| 00:00:51 | as2_ | Oh, better get your parents to help then ;] |
| 00:02:42 | file | thwaps as2 |
| 00:10:11 | Russ|werk | my bank gave me a visa that hits my bank account directly when I was 16 |
| 00:10:18 | Russ|werk | prpplague: what mouse? |
| 00:10:25 | Russ|werk | prpplague: logitech dual optical? |
| 00:10:46 | file | the US is different than Canada... |
| 00:12:56 | Russ|werk | I'm 22 now, so I've been using it for 6 years, I'm just now applying for an actual credit card, try to build credit |
| 00:13:15 | Russ|werk | going for an unsecured card |
| 00:13:41 | file | ahhhh |
| 00:14:13 | file | I'd just like a prepaid card |
| 00:15:42 | prpplague | Russ|werk: nothing so fancy, just a nice generic ps/2 with a very heavy ball |
| 00:19:08 | Russ|werk | ah |
| 00:19:15 | Russ|werk | I'm going for the opticals these days |
| 00:19:29 | Russ|werk | but my mouse at home is a nice logitech with a heavy ball |
| 00:48:21 | jacques | anyone know what buildroot does in an rpm spec file? |
| 00:59:10 | | jacques: (KSJC) 37-21-33N 121-55-27W 25M; Conditions at; last updated: Conditions at; Dew Point: 57.9 F (14.4 C); Pressure (altimeter): 29.82 in. Hg (1009 hPa); Pressure tendency: 0.00 inches (0.1 hPa) lower than three hours ago; Relative Humidity: 53%; Sky conditions: mostly clear; Temperature: 75.9 F (24.4 C); Visibility: 10 mile(s); Wind: from the NNW (330 degrees) at 15 MPH (13 KT) |
| 00:59:10 | jacques | ibot: weather ksjc |
| 01:41:32 | as_ | Russ, if your around, is that keith-koep schematic completly up the shoot? |
| 01:44:49 | prpplague | ponders.... in just 14 days he'll be drinking beer at OLS |
| 01:44:57 | | OLS is Ottawa Linux Symposium or http://www.ottawalinuxsymposium.org/ or http://www.linuxsymposium.org/2002/ |
| 01:44:57 | as_ | OLS? |
| 01:45:10 | as_ | Cool. Beer is cool. |
| 01:45:32 | prpplague | bber and linux in the same trip, super cool |
| 01:56:25 | jacques | thinks prpplague has had too much bbre already. |
| 01:58:14 | as_ | This schematic is completely fecked. |
| 02:01:25 | Russ|werk | as_: no it isn't |
| 02:01:26 | Russ|werk | its fine |
| 02:01:30 | prpplague | jacques: lol, not tonight |
| 02:01:47 | prpplague | jacques: just / beer |
| 02:03:29 | as_ | Why isnt it Russ? |
| 02:03:35 | prpplague | jacques: rootbeer, pizza , icecream, and movie "iron giant" with my son |
| 02:03:50 | as_ | It seems to send TDO, through the buffer and into a grounded pin on pport. |
| 02:04:03 | as_ | Also, its grounding several outputs. |
| 02:04:26 | prpplague | as_: the jtag dongle from keith-xxxxx |
| 02:04:43 | prpplague | ? |
| 02:04:49 | as_ | Ive rumaged through the site, and theres some source code, which seems to be sane. |
| 02:05:10 | as_ | Yes prp, someone was adapting jflash to work that dongle with his tux. |
| 02:06:00 | as_ | Unless IVe made a mistake somewhere, I dont think so. |
| 02:08:51 | as_ | I can see why its wrong, the port has been labled with odd numbers, it should be labled continuusly. |
| 02:11:41 | prpplague | as_: fun |
| 02:12:01 | prpplague | as_: you see that sa-1110 dim with fpga on it? |
| 02:12:15 | as_ | Hmm, that rings a bell. |
| 02:12:29 | as_ | Not sure. |
| 02:13:35 | prpplague | as_: http://www.sunrise-systems.de/SA1110-E.htm |
| 02:15:39 | as_ | Interesting, Ive never heatd of APEX FPGAs before. |
| 02:15:59 | as_ | Heard. |
| 02:21:31 | prpplague | argh, i hate hardcoding "exceptions" into a function |
| 02:23:45 | prpplague | as_: you do any c/c++ ? |
| 02:24:06 | as_ | I avoid C whereever possible atm. I use asm for most stuff. |
| 02:35:34 | Russ|werk | as_: I don't think they are giving DB25 pinout |
| 02:35:47 | Russ|werk | I think they are giving the pinout of the plug that goes to DB25 |
| 02:36:04 | Russ|werk | if you've ever opened up a "DB25 Dongle" |
| 02:36:30 | Russ|werk | you'll se that the first line goes to pin one, the second to pin 14, the third to pin 3, etc |
| 02:36:36 | Russ|werk | which is why its 1 3 5 7 |
| 02:36:41 | Russ|werk | instead of 1 2 3 4 |
| 02:41:29 | prpplague | think geek needs a shirt that says "go away or i'll replace you with a very small FPGA" |
| 02:41:31 | as_ | Hmm. |
| 02:42:19 | as_ | Thats very strange wiring. |
| 02:43:40 | as_ | I dont think I own a dongle, so IVe never seen one like that. Id have assumed that the input to the device was a 25pinD and used a straight cable. |
| 02:43:56 | Russ|werk | as_: I'm speaking of the little ribbon cable in AT cases |
| 02:44:06 | Russ|werk | that goes from the mobo to the parallel port on the case |
| 02:44:46 | as_ | My MB has a fitted pport, no cable. |
| 02:45:00 | Russ|werk | right, old AT stuff, not ATX |
| 02:46:38 | as_ | I'll have to ask him what sort of cable connects the pport to the dongle, if it has 26pins then its not a mistake. |
| 02:46:44 | prpplague | remembers the fun of {1-2-3-4-5 6-7-8-9} and {1-3-5-7-9 2-4-6-8} cables |
| 02:48:13 | prpplague | Russ|werk: back in the 90's i used to order the parts bulk and my wife and i made the adapters |
| 02:48:29 | prpplague | Russ|werk: we made a ton of money on those |
| 03:00:25 | Russ|werk | heh |
| 03:00:31 | Russ|werk | I just cut a few up |
| 03:01:08 | prpplague | doh, you serial port killer |
| 03:01:09 | Russ|werk | I take a DB25 rs232 port, a plastic sheild from on of the DB25 dongles, and 5 feet of 26 pin ribbon cable |
| 03:01:41 | prpplague | Russ|werk: and do what? |
| 03:02:35 | Russ|werk | solder them together, so its a ribbon cable that plugs into a parallel port |
| 03:02:49 | Russ|werk | then take the cable and solder the other end into some perf board |
| 03:03:03 | Russ|werk | any soldering tips for these? |
| 03:04:31 | prpplague | don't burn your fingers, lol |
| 03:04:50 | Russ|werk | did you strip each wire individualy? |
| 03:05:47 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ya i'd split the wires, the use a pair of toe nail cutters to strip the wire, tin each one, and then cut the same length |
| 03:06:15 | Russ|werk | hmm...wonder if you could of slit both side of the wire wire it was still connected |
| 03:06:35 | Russ|werk | then cut them apart, and just pulled of the prescored ends |
| 03:07:25 | prpplague | Russ|werk: i'm not saying you couldn't but i never got it to work properly |
| 03:07:35 | as2_ | types a thousand time, "I will not strip wire with my teeth". |
| 03:07:44 | prpplague | lol |
| 03:07:59 | prpplague | as2_: i've been stripping wire with my teeth since i was 5 |
| 03:08:25 | prpplague | as_: i've got a nice groove in one of my teeth now that works great,lol |
| 03:08:40 | as2_ | Doh ;] |
| 03:09:02 | as2_ | I think I was slightly older when I started electronics. |
| 03:09:32 | prpplague | as2_: i did my santa wish list from the radio shack catalog |
| 03:11:30 | as2_ | Haha. |
| 03:16:02 | prpplague | Russ|werk: you do c/c++ right? |
| 03:45:37 | Russ|werk | prpplague: ya |
| 03:45:42 | Russ|werk | more on the c side though |
| 03:46:13 | Russ|werk | I'm out of here though |
| 03:46:37 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ok, night |
| 04:14:49 | prpplague | Russ: i thought you were calling it a night? |
| 04:15:58 | Russ | ya, I'm home now |
| 04:16:35 | prpplague | ahh |
| 04:21:50 | prpplague | well, i off to bed |
| 04:54:33 | Russ | heh, ILM uses FLTK |
| 05:08:43 | TomW | fontenot: ping |
| 05:28:11 | Russ | hmm...me trys very experimental mozilla gtk2 and galeon beta packages |
| 05:29:48 | TomW | did they work? |
| 05:30:05 | TomW | ... or just lock up and stare at you? |
| 05:30:20 | Russ | don't know yet |
| 05:31:01 | TomW | heh, best time, anticipation builds, program loads ... drat another lockup / crash / dud.. |
| 05:31:11 | Russ | apt-get instealling.. |
| 05:31:48 | TomW | Good luck. I tried installing mozilla and the damned thing just sits there "registering Chrome". |
| 05:32:23 | Russ | installs side by side, thats nice |
| 05:32:32 | Russ | ooh, it leads |
| 05:32:38 | Russ | double buffered 'n all |
| 05:33:41 | Russ | I have this stupid freetype font that gtk2 keeps picking as default though |
| 05:34:26 | TomW | I'm still wrestling with how to get the touchscreen working with the debian xfree86 source. |
| 05:35:40 | Russ | ick |
| 05:36:00 | Russ | I would say drop the TS interface, and make some input glue for it |
| 05:36:13 | Russ | the touchscreen keyboard does basically the opposite |
| 05:36:24 | Russ | the driver hooks directly into input |
| 05:36:40 | Russ | but then some glue pulls keystrokes from input and puts them into console |
| 05:36:57 | Russ | X understands input, right? |
| 05:37:05 | TomW | Yeah, thought about that, but I want to use one of them as a call center. |
| 05:37:26 | Russ | I think it might be the best way to go, then you can use standard X |
| 05:37:45 | Russ | anything you tried to use, would just "work", as long as it supported input |
| 05:38:06 | Russ | I can enter URL's in korean, hmm |
| 05:38:10 | TomW | heh |
| 05:38:17 | TomW | usefull! |
| 05:38:59 | TomW | maybe you should recheck that mirror you are using to get the binaries from... |
| 05:39:38 | Russ | no, its a gtk2 thing |
| 05:39:50 | Russ | you can right click on text entries and select your input method |
| 05:40:18 | Russ | its i18n throughout now (Except for some bits of cruft here and there) |
| 05:40:26 | Russ | most notably, the terminal lib |
| 05:40:51 | Russ | hmm...toolbar editor is not doing anything, guess I'll have to use gconf-editor |
| 05:43:41 | Russ | gnome2/gtk2 porting is moving pretty fast, it'll be nice to have a gaim port |
| 05:43:54 | Russ | wonder how much unicode it will support though |
| 05:44:31 | TomW | all this under the Tux? |
| 05:44:36 | TomW | arm |
| 05:44:39 | Russ | no |
| 05:44:44 | Russ | I'm talking about my box |
| 05:44:56 | Russ | but I am going to try to get gtk2 going on arm |
| 05:45:06 | Russ | mainly on my camion unit, since it has 32M of flash |
| 05:45:26 | Russ | and its kinda disapointing that if you want a high end gui, you have to go with c++ |
| 05:45:33 | Russ | (fltk or QT) |
| 05:45:49 | Russ | fltk is moving fast though, and it has advantages over qt |
| 05:46:44 | Russ | heh, you can drop vowels from the names in tabs |
| 05:46:47 | TomW | I need something other than an X86 box to use as an internet server / gateway / firewall. |
| 05:47:31 | TomW | I think that I'll get another network card for the one tux that has the ide drive and give that a try to see what it would do. |
| 05:47:55 | Russ | I think it would be cool to use an alpha |
| 05:48:08 | Russ | my friend has a 266 one, but the CPU has a Dcache problem |
| 05:48:31 | Russ | wonder if cats mainboards can be found cheop |
| 05:49:31 | TomW | I think that mallum had an older CATS board. He tested his IDE interface and it wasn't much faster than mine. So, I am encouraged by that. |
| 05:49:55 | Russ | the primary problem is that there is no DMA |
| 05:50:01 | TomW | yup |
| 05:50:19 | Russ | maybe if you set up a large dual port SRAM cache and a small controller of sorts |
| 05:50:46 | Russ | off and on, I'm looking into emulating a PCI bus |
| 05:51:20 | TomW | I cannot afford to layout the money for a Netwinder, or such, so it will have to be a Tux. |
| 05:51:41 | Russ | I might go with nfsroot |
| 05:51:50 | TomW | 64 Meg of RAM ain't much by today's standards, but it is pretty respectable. |
| 06:02:47 | TomW | Russ: later. |
| 10:58:24 | Sammy | Amm... anyone here have any idea known about why I put CF storage card on , but it's can't finger it ? |
| 10:58:42 | Sammy | show this massage: |
| 10:58:55 | Sammy | # shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 10:58:56 | Sammy | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 10:58:57 | Sammy | shannon_pcmcia_configure_socket(): Warning, Can't perform reset |
| 10:59:05 | Sammy | return to # |
| 11:41:30 | lyakh | Russ, you're there? |
| 14:00:34 | prpplague | morning all |
| 14:09:14 | sjhill | dude |
| 14:09:25 | file | sjhill! |
| 14:09:53 | file | sjhill : can you send me a case for my Nino? |
| 14:11:40 | file | sjhill : I'll take that as a go away... |
| 14:12:03 | sjhill | file: i have a spare case, but you're not getting it for free |
| 14:12:37 | file | mmm |
| 14:12:46 | file | perhaps, perhaps |
| 14:12:53 | file | what about a manual? |
| 14:13:08 | file | got nothing with his Nino except the Nino and docking station/charger |
| 14:13:19 | file | oh bah - nevermind |
| 14:17:32 | sjhill | file: i can give you iso images of the nino cdroms |
| 14:19:14 | sjhill | file: ftp://ftp.cotw.com/Nino/Philips-WWW-Mirror also has all of the manuals and stuff |
| 14:25:23 | sjhill | mornin' andersee |
| 14:25:44 | andersee | sjhill: morning |
| 14:26:34 | andersee | In a few minutes I'm gonna be moving phoenix so it has its own public IP address. No need to pass through my firewall anymore... |
| 14:26:43 | andersee | Should make it much more usable... |
| 14:27:38 | andersee | sjhill: how're you doing? |
| 14:28:39 | andersee | sjhill: btw, gdb works fine now with uClibc. It needed some uClibc bugfixes. |
| 14:29:07 | sjhill | andersee: pretty good. my parents are out to visit for about a week. i took a couple of days off to work with my dad on my house |
| 14:29:21 | andersee | ahh |
| 14:29:30 | sjhill | andersee: yeah, gdbserver for mips is 38KB dynamic and 66kb static :) |
| 14:29:50 | sjhill | andersee: it works really great debugging embedded applications remotely |
| 14:30:11 | andersee | There was a printf bug that was really crippling gdb, but its better now. |
| 14:31:47 | andersee | sjhill: which reminds me. Got the changes needed to compile up gdbserver? |
| 14:34:24 | sjhill | andersee: there aren't any, it's just getting the command line options right to configure and compile it |
| 14:35:05 | mallum | andersee: hi |
| 14:35:49 | andersee | mallum: morning |
| 14:36:29 | mallum | andersee: ever thoguht about building debian against uclibc ? |
| 14:36:43 | sjhill | nominates mallum for that task |
| 14:37:11 | mallum | andersee: I was speaking to phil bludell ( uk debian arm ) guy over the weekend and I think hes going to give it ago soon. |
| 14:37:44 | andersee | mallum: yup. I built most of the base system back in november, but lacked the compiler at the time. Since I can now compile gcc and binutils, I expect it should just work now... |
| 14:38:08 | andersee | Worth a try. I've just never figured out how to make a buildd run |
| 14:38:56 | mallum | andersee: yes I think this guy has the knowledge due to him running some of the debian arm build machines |
| 14:39:57 | andersee | right. If anyone would know how to get buildd running, he would. |
| 14:40:14 | andersee | maybe I should join #debian today and see if hes around |
| 14:46:03 | sjhill | andersee: how much longer until 0.9.12 release? |
| 14:47:39 | andersee | sjhill: with a bit of luck, it may be later today... |
| 14:47:49 | sjhill | woohoo! |
| 14:48:56 | andersee | messes with the rats-nest of wires under the desk |
| 14:51:16 | mallum | andersee: I havn't see him aound today, he goes a 'pb' on irc |
| 14:51:36 | andersee | mallum: right. |
| 14:51:57 | andersee | mallum: if he is anything like me, hes been awfully busy... |
| 14:52:10 | mallum | andersee: Im sure he'd like to speak to you ... If I see him I'll point him your way |
| 14:52:28 | mallum | andersee: well good to be busy at the moment , as long as its paid busy ;) |
| 14:52:54 | andersee | :) |
| 15:12:38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you alive? |
| 15:27:47 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I am now |
| 15:27:48 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 17:25:42) |
| 15:27:59 | CosmicPenguin | finally got his PS2 booted |
| 15:28:58 | CosmicPenguin | It is now taking several hours to format... :( |
| 15:29:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you get my message before you left yesterday? |
| 15:29:30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: maybe? |
| 15:29:41 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: oooh, you have a ps2 linux kit ? |
| 15:29:43 | CosmicPenguin | If I did - it scrolled out of the buffer |
| 15:29:45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 15:29:58 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: yep! I can't wait to get XMAME working and have pacman on my TV |
| 15:30:05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool |
| 15:30:23 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 15:30:31 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: if it'll decode divX I'll get one .... |
| 15:30:32 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: morning! Haven't seen you for a few days |
| 15:30:58 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: they're still working on that - apparently the US version can't play CD's or DVD's, but the rumor is that one of the mod chips will let you do that |
| 15:31:11 | CosmicPenguin | I don't really know right now - because the only source for information is the official Sony website |
| 15:31:24 | file | I'm back |
| 15:31:52 | CosmicPenguin | But it is a good solid MIPS platform for testing |
| 15:32:22 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: Its not the locked access to DVD's Im worried about, Im thinking more if it will play a divx stream over a network |
| 15:32:49 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I'll bet it will - depending on the load on the CPU |
| 15:35:05 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yeah and if sony let linux have some sort of access to its hardware decoding |
| 15:35:59 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: Im really interested in getting one ... there only 150 quid over here |
| 15:36:50 | | CosmicPenguin: i'm not following you... |
| 15:36:50 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: currency |
| 15:36:55 | CosmicPenguin | ibot: help currency |
| 15:37:48 | CosmicPenguin | how many quid in a pound (or vice versa)? |
| 15:39:18 | mallum | erm I dont know what it is at the moment but I suspect it translates to 200$ |
| 15:41:37 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: same price as the $US |
| 15:41:43 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: yep |
| 15:41:48 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: A pretty good deal |
| 15:42:31 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: I think so - my fiance didn't share your thoughts though... :) |
| 15:45:59 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: oh no, she's already started to take over the money! |
| 15:46:21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: before long you'll hear "whats yours is our, and whats mine is mine!" |
| 15:48:35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: thats all ok - we have a great relationship in that sense, she just doesn't think I should spend so much money on useless computer hardware |
| 15:48:40 | CosmicPenguin | She probably has a point |
| 15:52:19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, i'm just yanking your chain |
| 15:52:56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I get that 24 hours a day from my friends. Guys across the country call me up to give me a hard time |
| 15:53:32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 15:55:29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: anyway, your welcome to look at one of our earlier rootfs at http://www.abcsinc.com/yopy/tcsx1-rootfs.tar.gz |
| 15:56:09 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: hmmm, I have a video projector connected to my ps2, I could play ~8ft square mame :))) |
| 15:56:16 | mallum | has got to get one !! |
| 15:56:34 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: ooohhh - I want a projector... |
| 15:58:16 | mallum | mallum: I got a sony one cheap - on 500 quid |
| 15:58:18 | mallum | only |
| 16:00:03 | prpplague | mallum: that doesn't sound cheap to me |
| 16:00:47 | prpplague | mallum: what does a sony usually go for? |
| 16:02:11 | mallum | prpplague: at least twice that |
| 16:02:45 | prpplague | mallum: hmm, 500 quid, thats alot of beer and hookers, lol |
| 16:03:51 | prpplague | who all here is attending OLS? |
| 16:27:51 | prpplague | does anyone think this is bogus - http://news.com.com/2100-1040-934502.html |
| 16:29:36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yeah - I can see the wireless costs - but 3300 is alot for software and traning |
| 16:30:24 | Russ | hey lyakh |
| 16:32:53 | mallum | [OT-ish] hmmm, can you set gdb to 'watch' a particular var and notify me when it gets changed ? |
| 16:33:24 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: yeah - watch... :) |
| 16:33:40 | CosmicPenguin | (gdb) help watch |
| 16:33:40 | CosmicPenguin | Set a watchpoint for an expression. |
| 16:33:40 | CosmicPenguin | A watchpoint stops execution of your program whenever the value of |
| 16:33:40 | CosmicPenguin | an expression changes. |
| 16:34:47 | CosmicPenguin | also awatch (access), and rwatch (read) |
| 16:35:09 | CosmicPenguin | Keep in mind that it only works for the life of the variable, so sometimes it is real difficult to debug C++ classes |
| 16:36:07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you know what we need? Sqlite bindings for perl |
| 16:36:32 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: hmm, how did I miss that in the gdb help |
| 16:37:04 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: the GDB help is so hard to read - its easy to miss lots of things |
| 16:38:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yes i'd think that would be most valuable, even though i don't do much perl |
| 16:41:45 | CosmicPenguin | I'll add that to my list - anything we can do to encourage the use of sqlite is good, IMHO |
| 16:44:43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 16:45:12 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I just spent an hour trying to track down the dumbest bug :(( |
| 16:45:14 | lyakh | Russ: hi... what did I want to ask? ah - yeah, one thing - in all pp-docs pin 23 is unconnected... But they connect TDO output there?... |
| 16:45:18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i need to get that sqlite classes worked into fluid |
| 16:47:38 | Russ | lyakh: they are listing the pinout for a db25 dongle |
| 16:48:07 | Russ | so 1->1 2->14 3->2 4->15 5->3 6->16, etc |
| 16:48:32 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: oh yeah, I wrote a tiny xml parser too. Mine is 4k and provides an mini dom as well as expat style event parsing |
| 16:49:00 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: its in hh.org matchbox cvs if you wanna take a peak |
| 16:49:21 | Russ | so pin 23 would translate to pin 12 |
| 16:49:31 | lyakh | Oh, thanks... |
| 16:50:52 | lyakh | so, I'll have to shift that bit to 11, where jflash expects it, too... |
| 16:52:06 | Russ | no |
| 16:52:13 | Russ | I don't think thats right |
| 16:52:19 | Russ | what is pin 12 listed as? |
| 16:54:42 | prpplague | mallum: have you checked out the biggest software disaster web page? |
| 16:55:23 | prpplague | mallum: my favorite is the "mariner7" that fail due to a loop typo |
| 16:55:56 | prpplague | mallum: do loop=1.5,1 instead of do loop=1,5,1 |
| 16:56:05 | mallum | ouch |
| 16:56:12 | lyakh | Russ: paper-in/out (in status, anyway... use it for whatever you want) |
| 16:56:47 | file | prpplague : you... must... steal... it... |
| 16:57:19 | Russ | I have a document that says its bit S5.. |
| 17:01:05 | lyakh | yep, same here - one of four accessible bits |
| 17:01:27 | prpplague | mallum: http://www.cs.tau.ac.il/~nachumd/verify/horror.html |
| 17:01:38 | Russ | ok, so the one in tuxscreen is pin 11, or S7 |
| 17:01:42 | Russ | and the line is: |
| 17:01:49 | Russ | if(rp == RP)tdo = !((int)_inp(gLptAddress + 1) >> 7); // get TDO data |
| 17:01:56 | Russ | so I would change that to |
| 17:02:07 | Russ | if(rp == RP)tdo = !((int)_inp(gLptAddress + 1) >> 5); // get TDO data |
| 17:03:05 | Russ | I don't know what thats inverted |
| 17:03:36 | Russ | I would think it would be; if (rp == RP) tdo = (_inp(gLptAddress + 1) >> 5) & 1; |
| 17:03:43 | Russ | but you'll just have to play with it a bit |
| 17:03:53 | file | bah hum bug!!!!! |
| 17:04:09 | Russ | _outp(gLptAddress, tms*4+tdi*2); // TCK low |
| 17:04:27 | Russ | you'll probably chage to something like: |
| 17:05:06 | Russ | _outp(gLptAddress, (tms << 3) +(tdi<<2) + (1<<0)); // TCK low |
| 17:05:15 | Russ | I'm guessing the numbers |
| 17:05:20 | Russ | the last one is for nTRST |
| 17:05:34 | file | I'm unhappy |
| 17:05:48 | Russ | and similarly with TCK high, but with an additional term |
| 17:05:50 | lyakh | s7 is inverted, s5 is not |
| 17:05:58 | Russ | ah |
| 17:06:36 | Russ | I would think that would mean the meaning not the actualy logic value, but eh |
| 17:07:23 | Russ | shower |
| 17:07:36 | file | Russ: yeah you should, you smell pretty bad |
| 17:08:08 | lyakh | thanks |
| 17:19:34 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: what cpu speed is the ps2 ? |
| 17:50:57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you seen this - http://www.bms-austria.com/projects/paragui/modules.php?name=News&new_topic |
| 17:58:28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: interesting |
| 18:56:35 | CosmicPenguin | doh - the mame RPM didn't work |
| 18:56:38 | CosmicPenguin | on the PS2 |
| 19:01:43 | file | prpplague: wb! |
| 19:01:50 | prpplague | file: thanks |
| 19:15:04 | CosmicPenguin | I'm actually happy that the mame didn't work out of the box - that will give me something to do... :) |
| 19:15:13 | prpplague | lol |
| 19:16:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey, is there a way to check and see how many items are on a Fl_Choice widget? |
| 19:17:23 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nm, found it |
| 19:17:51 | CosmicPenguin | There you go.. :) |
| 19:19:25 | prpplague | fltk docs sometimes are a little cryptic |
| 19:28:28 | CosmicPenguin | sometimes? |
| 19:29:03 | CosmicPenguin | everything I ever needed to know about FLTK I learned from reading the code |
| 19:30:26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yes, but the docs do provid a (very) little amount of directional help, not much on implementation |
| 19:40:32 | CosmicPenguin | I love how when you gzip a png, it gets bigger |
| 19:44:00 | prpplague | lol |
| 20:11:29 | prpplague | argh, worldcom sucks |
| 20:14:38 | CosmicPenguin | Wow - Gimp kept getting a segfault in the segfault handler - that wasn't prettty |
| 20:16:22 | prpplague | sounds nasty |
| 20:16:40 | prpplague | not as nasty as this legacy SCO unix app i had to deal with |
| 20:17:07 | lyakh_home | hi... still no success with my dongle... |
| 20:17:26 | prpplague | the original author actual had a section of the software that counted on the application segfaulting |
| 20:17:50 | prpplague | if ( segfault) then .... else ..... |
| 20:18:20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: and every time it segfaulted it locked 12k of ram |
| 20:18:23 | kergoth | shudders |
| 20:18:49 | andersee | hehe |
| 20:19:36 | andersee | while (raise(11)) echo "Ouch!"; |
| 20:20:27 | andersee | Seems I'm mixing languages again |
| 20:20:27 | andersee | while (raise(11)) printf "Ouch!\n"; |
| 20:20:52 | prpplague | andersee: you ever go through the code for the gnu init? |
| 20:21:19 | andersee | nope |
| 20:21:31 | andersee | well. yeah |
| 20:21:39 | andersee | But not too carefully |
| 20:22:07 | prpplague | andersee: lol, create a user call "tyler" on your system and do a shutdown logged in as tyler |
| 20:23:14 | andersee | $ cd embedded/source/sysvinit-2.84/ |
| 20:23:15 | andersee | grep -r tyler * |
| 20:23:18 | andersee | $ |
| 20:23:25 | andersee | nothing.. |
| 20:23:41 | andersee | Figured there was an easter egg.... guess not. |
| 20:24:21 | prpplague | andersee: darn they must have removed it |
| 20:24:32 | prpplague | andersee: its on the older editions |
| 20:24:57 | prpplague | andersee: anyway it pops up and says "Hello Mr.Tyler, going down?" |
| 20:26:05 | prpplague | andersee: ya its in 2.78 but not in 2.84 |
| 20:27:55 | lyakh_home | demn... K&K soft at least reads ID right, with jflash I can't get anything - FFFFF... |
| 20:29:04 | lyakh_home | so, looks like the dongle and the cable work... |
| 20:44:10 | lyakh_home | Russ|Werk - you're probably fed up with my questions... What did you mean "put nTRST high"? Is connecting it to nRESET not enough? |
| 20:50:18 | Russ|werk | oh, yaeh |
| 20:50:22 | Russ|werk | thats fine= |
| 20:50:50 | Russ|werk | just as long as you don't wire up the nTRST on the dongle |
| 20:52:30 | lyakh_home | saw my moans above?:-) KnK's soft can read ID, jflash can't. Dunno, I used modifications, as suggested by as_, similar to yours but a bit more detailed explanations... |
| 20:53:14 | lyakh_home | Do I have to do anything specific to init the chip? or just "write-through"? |
| 22:40:34 | CosmicPenguin | Geez! VMware cost $299 - thats a lot of cash for a emulator |
| 22:51:23 | Morn | CosmicPenguin: and I've been a registered user since v1.0 |
| 22:51:27 | Morn | and upgraded each time |
| 22:55:38 | prpplague | heads home |
| 22:58:12 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: I' |
| 22:58:27 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: I've been polling everyone I know - is vmware your favorite emulator? |
| 22:58:33 | Morn | yes |
| 22:58:38 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: as opposed to win4linux and good old WINE |
| 22:58:48 | Morn | I haven't tried win4linux yet |
| 22:58:55 | Morn | isn't it just a snazzy version of wine? |
| 22:59:06 | CosmicPenguin | No - wine isn't an emulator... :-) |
| 22:59:20 | CosmicPenguin | win4linux is an emulator - but it can only handle up to Windows 98 SE |
| 22:59:26 | Morn | ah |
| 22:59:31 | Morn | VMWare works with XP too |
| 22:59:35 | Morn | you can run XP |
| 22:59:41 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: the name WINE means Wine Is Not a Emulator |
| 22:59:43 | file | oh interesting |
| 22:59:55 | file | don't forget about LINE! |
| 23:00:00 | Morn | I knew that, but it really does emulate the api's |
| 23:00:00 | file | Line Is Not an Emulator |
| 23:00:21 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: Well - yeah.... I guess it all depends on what you call an emulator.... |
| 23:00:27 | CosmicPenguin | Its all semantics anyhow... |
| 23:00:50 | Morn | Wine can now do some DirectX |
| 23:00:54 | Morn | VMware doesn't |
| 23:01:40 | CosmicPenguin | How is the sound support in VMWare - I recall it used to have issues |
| 23:01:49 | Morn | it still does |
| 23:01:51 | Morn | but it works |
| 23:02:12 | Morn | Since I mostly use VMWare for doing cross platform development sound and direct x aren't important to me |
| 23:02:19 | file | that's... odd |
| 23:02:26 | file | why won't Linux bunzip... |
| 23:03:29 | CosmicPenguin | Ok - I guess I'll sleep on it tonight.... |
| 23:03:32 | CosmicPenguin | See everyone later |
| 23:03:36 | Morn | have fun |
| 23:03:52 | CosmicPenguin | is away: Off to build my computer |
| 23:06:04 | file | well for the love of |
| 23:06:08 | file | I can't seem to untar the linux kernel |
| 23:34:30 | Morn | file: corrupt download? |
| 23:34:38 | Morn | have you compared the md5 sums? |
| 23:35:45 | file | I was using tar wrong :p |
| 23:35:53 | Morn | doh! |