| 00:13:59 | file | hey Tim |
| 04:55:21 | | prpplague was last seen on #blob 1 hours, 20 minutes and 45 seconds ago, saying: TimRiker: hiding out? [Thu Jun 6 04:34:36 2002] |
| 04:55:21 | pmisfit | ibot: seen prpplague |
| 04:55:36 | pmisfit | a little detective mission , eh? ;-) |
| 05:04:12 | pmisfit | cross-compiling gnu autoconf packages is the bane of mankind. |
| 05:06:45 | pmisfit | lt_lt_cv_sys_global_symbol_pipe=$'"sed -n -e \'s/^.*[ \t]\\\\([ABCDGISTW][ABCDGISTW]*\\\\)[ \t][ \t]*\\\\(\\\\)\\\\([_A-Za-z][_A-Za-z0-9]*\\\\)\\$/\\\\1 \\\\2\\\\3 \\\\3/p\'"' |
| 05:07:08 | pmisfit | line noise. |
| 05:07:53 | pmisfit | </rant> |
| 05:29:37 | pmisfit | ok, i'm giving up. |
| 05:29:48 | pmisfit | tried to xcompile sqlite for arm-uclibc. |
| 05:30:08 | pmisfit | BOTCH. looks like sqlite requires tcl, and there ain't no way i'm gonna build tcl for the tux. |
| 05:30:53 | pmisfit | is away: disgusted with trying to crosscompile databases. will use flat files instead. |
| 05:51:50 | bmidgley | anyone busyboxers around? |
| 05:54:35 | andersee | nobody here but us chickens... |
| 05:54:51 | andersee | <punchline from a joke a heard once> |
| 05:55:30 | bmidgley | the man |
| 05:55:45 | andersee | what can I do for you? |
| 05:55:54 | bmidgley | i can't find an example of a valid string for date -s |
| 05:56:44 | andersee | Type 'date' on your system... |
| 05:57:00 | andersee | That should give you a working example |
| 06:01:59 | bmidgley | date: invalid date `Thu Jun 6 00:00:45 MDT 2002` |
| 06:02:13 | bmidgley | date: invalid date `Thu, 6 Jun 2002 00:00:45` |
| 06:08:18 | bmidgley | i'm looking at the source now |
| 06:09:23 | andersee | Hmm. Lose the "Thu" and try again |
| 06:12:33 | bmidgley | nope. MMDDHHmmYYYY works though |
| 06:13:53 | andersee | Hmm. |
| 06:13:58 | andersee | Ah well. |
| 06:18:20 | bmidgley | the docs would be improved if they said -s could accept MMDDHHmmYYYY or YYYY.MM.DD-HH:mm[:ss] |
| 06:18:25 | bmidgley | but at least the source is there |
| 06:19:21 | andersee | patches accepted.... :) |
| 06:25:52 | bmidgley | you bait everybody that way? :) |
| 06:25:58 | bmidgley | is http://oss.lineo.com/cvs_anon.html accurate? |
| 06:26:13 | andersee | dunno. |
| 06:26:27 | andersee | Havn't visited there for a while |
| 06:26:41 | andersee | http://busybox.net/cvs_anon.html is current. |
| 06:29:12 | bmidgley | hmm i see the reference is fixed in cvs (chicken-egg?) |
| 06:29:23 | bmidgley | :) |
| 06:30:07 | andersee | ??? |
| 06:30:14 | andersee | what reference? |
| 06:31:53 | bmidgley | the contributing.txt pointer in the release is to oss.lineo.com. anyway. |
| 06:32:24 | bmidgley | i am looking at cvs now though |
| 06:32:41 | andersee | which release were you looking at? 0.60.3? |
| 06:34:40 | bmidgley | yes |
| 06:37:23 | andersee | Hmm. oops. |
| 06:37:33 | andersee | Guess I missed it before the release. |
| 08:07:38 | Sammy | . |
| 09:04:00 | dc_ | . |
| 09:06:38 | andersee | Howdy BZFlag |
| 09:06:42 | andersee | Hows it goin |
| 09:07:05 | andersee | want an account on my Qube? |
| 09:08:04 | dc_ | does! |
| 09:08:10 | dc_ | hehe |
| 09:10:39 | BZFlag | andersee: sure. grab my ssh key from rikers.org k? |
| 09:12:29 | andersee | k, try to login to "phoenix" from winder |
| 09:25:41 | TomW | andersee: Finally got the wrapper working. It was that I had to do some carefull setup of the parms passed to gcc via the wrapper. |
| 09:27:14 | andersee | Ahh. Many changes? |
| 09:27:37 | TomW | Not really, I basically used the code as is. |
| 09:27:44 | andersee | I'd be willing to merge such changes (wrapped in ifdefs) |
| 09:28:09 | TomW | lot of confusion on my part. e.g. what the ld-linux.so.2 is for, etc. |
| 09:29:44 | TomW | I don't think it is very much, what would probably help the next guy (whoever) is if I documented (commented) the code as to what it was doing. That is what got me stuck, trying to understand what the code was trying to accomplish. |
| 09:31:14 | TomW | I'll have to delve into the syscall() stuff next. That is the problem, as suspected, with getting the rieserfs tools working on the debian-arm. Probably is that syscall() definitions changed between their libc and the 2.4 kernel. |
| 09:31:18 | andersee | Pretty sneak code I must admit. :) |
| 09:32:15 | TomW | yes, it is an interesting way to solve a thorny problem: "how do I compile lots of stuff without making massive changes to the Makefiles". |
| 09:33:27 | TomW | I've been out all night installing a couple of webcams for a client. |
| 09:33:36 | andersee | And avoiding needing tons of cross compilers... |
| 09:34:02 | andersee | TomW: the shower cam and the dressing-room cam, etc? |
| 09:34:08 | andersee | ;-) |
| 09:34:51 | TomW | there is still the issue of krappy programs like XFree86. What a beast that is to work with!!! Hardcode everything into the makefiles, they insist on setting the value of CC rather then checking first to see if it is needed! |
| 09:35:21 | TomW | XFree86 needs to be trashed and they need to start all over again! |
| 09:36:02 | TomW | andersee: it was a couple of cams in a Kentucky Fried Chicken so the owner could make sure what was going on there when he wasn't around. |
| 09:38:21 | TomW | andersee: Erik, at least I am gaining a lot of experience with stuff like the gcc-wrapper. You never know when some of that knowledge will pull your buns out of the fire.. |
| 09:50:44 | TomW | Time to reboot the remote machine and hope it comes back online. The box is only 60 miles away, so it should fsck up the reboot... |
| 09:51:28 | TomW | never mind "Murphey's Law", this is "Tom's Law" |
| 10:03:42 | andersee | hehe |
| 10:06:02 | TomW | machine came up. The second ethernet came up with the new kernel, but now it looks as if the HUB is bad or the cable is not plugged in properly. shit, so I have to take a run back up there tonite. |
| 10:06:37 | TomW | Ya gotta love doing this stuff, otherwise you'll go nuts. |
| 10:08:06 | TomW | andersee: time for some sleep, later Erik. |
| 10:23:26 | p2_ | hi |
| 10:23:38 | p2_ | anyone knows about the opie port to tuxscreen ? |
| 11:56:20 | Morn | is away: if (dirty) { shower(); } |
| 12:11:48 | Morn | is back (gone 00:15:28) |
| 12:24:56 | andersee | morning sjhill |
| 12:25:11 | andersee | wanna try something cool? |
| 12:26:57 | sjhill | nah, i'm a geek, i don't like cool things |
| 12:27:01 | sjhill | :) |
| 12:27:08 | sjhill | sure, whatcha' got? |
| 12:27:10 | Morn | is away: hungry |
| 12:27:56 | andersee | sjhill: login to codepoet.org, and then login to "phoenix" |
| 12:32:08 | sjhill | andersee: i can get a traceroute to you, but i can't ssh in |
| 12:32:21 | sjhill | ah, wow, that's slow |
| 12:33:07 | andersee | sjhill: sorry. codepoet.org is doing is daily logrotates, etc.. |
| 12:33:07 | sjhill | andersee: are you downloading stuff? |
| 12:33:11 | sjhill | ahhh |
| 12:34:10 | sjhill | andersee: sheesh, okay, do i ssh to phoenix or telnet? |
| 12:34:41 | andersee | ssh |
| 13:06:08 | p2_ | hi |
| 13:07:00 | p2_ | anyone knows something about the opie port to tuxscreen ? |
| 14:18:30 | p2_ | anyone knows something about the opie port to tuxscreen ? |
| 14:19:18 | CosmicPenguin | morning morning |
| 14:20:40 | andersee | morning |
| 14:20:57 | CosmicPenguin | damit - I went to a web site owned by a squatter - and they redirected me to their damn website which is repleate with flash that is now locked up because of the audio bug |
| 14:22:06 | CosmicPenguin | I hate that bug |
| 14:48:32 | collord_ | anybody seen busybox in a state where it only wants to be "ping"? |
| 14:50:05 | collord_ | it's especially bothersome when busybox is supposed to be init ;-) |
| 14:52:17 | prpplague | collord_: did you check and see what all busybox was compiled with? |
| 14:53:44 | collord_ | yeah the Config.h has a good diversity of options defined |
| 14:53:56 | collord_ | is there a way to list though with the busybox binary? |
| 14:55:10 | prpplague | just do a ./busybox |
| 14:55:20 | prpplague | it'll tell you what items are compiled |
| 14:56:17 | collord_ | hrm this is weird, i must not have installed it correctly |
| 14:56:34 | collord_ | ./busybox in the build tree gives expected output |
| 14:57:02 | collord_ | though the same binary in the skeleton give ping usage |
| 14:57:31 | collord_ | (i'm actually just for fun making a i386 version of the buildroot) |
| 14:57:35 | collord_ | er, trying |
| 14:59:05 | collord_ | strange, actually they're not the same binary... looking at the install |
| 15:00:10 | andersee | collord_: any patches applied? |
| 15:00:11 | prpplague | collord_: x86 buildroot is a worth hack, i've converted all of out x86 thin client builds to buildroot |
| 15:00:38 | andersee | prpplague: :-) |
| 15:01:04 | prpplague | andersee: morning |
| 15:01:51 | collord_ | i actually am not doing it with buildroot magic, studied it and did it fairly manually :( |
| 15:02:01 | andersee | morning |
| 15:02:56 | collord_ | oh, and i'm not dealing with ramdisks as i should |
| 15:03:34 | collord_ | this is my LFS gauntlet :) |
| 15:04:07 | collord_ | yeah that's strange, the busybox installed was totally different than the busybox in the build tree |
| 15:04:07 | prpplague | andersee: interesting fact - i compiled BB on SCO Openserver |
| 15:04:55 | andersee | Oh? Cool. :) |
| 15:05:46 | prpplague | andersee: its works very well for providing a nice standard functions for chrooted logins |
| 15:05:47 | andersee | I heard of solaris and hurd ports floating about |
| 15:10:04 | collord_ | thanks guys and sorry for the newbism |
| 15:37:37 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: you'll know you've arrived when they make a win32 version of busybox..... :-) |
| 15:40:23 | andersee | hehe |
| 15:44:35 | prpplague | BusyBox v0.666 Win32 (2001.05.21-16:25+0000) multi-call binary |
| 15:44:35 | prpplague | Usage: busybox [function] [arguments]... |
| 15:44:35 | prpplague | or: [function] [arguments]... |
| 15:44:35 | prpplague | BusyBox is a multi-call binary that combines many common Unix |
| 15:44:35 | prpplague | utilities into a single executable. Most people will create a |
| 15:44:35 | prpplague | link to busybox for each function they wish to use, and BusyBox |
| 15:44:37 | prpplague | will act like whatever it was invoked as. |
| 15:44:39 | prpplague | Currently defined functions: |
| 15:44:41 | prpplague | busybox, blue-screen-of-death, cls, copy, echo, mkdir, more, rmdir, |
| 15:44:43 | prpplague | solitaire, type, vb-virus-xmit |
| 15:45:28 | CosmicPenguin | hehehe.... I forgot that win32 already had busybox - its called command.com |
| 15:45:55 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i thought command.com was considered a virus.... |
| 15:46:26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whatever it was, it was hard to kill... :) |
| 15:46:49 | prpplague | lol |
| 15:46:58 | CosmicPenguin | Though to DOS's credit - it was pretty damn cool that you could replace command.com with your own shell |
| 15:47:47 | CosmicPenguin | When I was a kid, I wrote a command.com replacement in Pascal... :) |
| 15:47:58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 15:48:28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i was more into apple systems in my youth |
| 15:48:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i really liked being able to get into the core of the system on the apple |
| 19:19:54 | lyakh_home | hi, where can I download a soldering iron? /blinking honestly/:-)) |
| 20:32:30 | CosmicPenguin | the ps2 room is more worried about hacking the xbox then getting linux on the ps2 |
| 22:41:20 | collord | hrm so this is odd, uclibc compiles its ldd.target with the host system path to ld-uClibc.so.0 |
| 22:47:09 | CosmicPenguin | right |
| 23:07:24 | CosmicPenguin | is away: good golly miss molly |
| 23:14:58 | jacques | great, sourceforge.net is down AGAIN |
| 23:15:12 | jacques | i with the fuckers would just finally go under so ppl would stop depending on them |
| 23:17:42 | jacques | now it's giving "connection refused" was hanging |
| 23:20:11 | file | son of a |
| 23:20:14 | file | I can't get ahold of my boss |
| 23:23:54 | jacques | ok it's back to hanging again |
| 23:24:17 | file | yeah... I note that too |
| 23:25:00 | jacques | ah it's back |