| 00:35:50 | | CosmicPenguin was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 17 minutes and 43 seconds ago, saying: is away: Time to go to dinner, or something like that [Wed Jun 5 00:18:07 2002] |
| 00:35:50 | prpplague | ibot: seen CosmicPenguin |
| 00:49:01 | | andersee was last seen on #tuxscreen 8 hours, 10 minutes and 19 seconds ago, saying: TomW: yup [Tue Jun 4 17:38:42 2002] |
| 00:49:01 | Russ|werk | ibot: seen andersee |
| 00:50:06 | TomW | is away: I'm busy |
| 00:50:09 | TomW | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 00:50:17 | Russ|werk | that busy, eh? |
| 00:50:39 | TomW | heh, sometimes I don't remember if I should be coming OR going! |
| 00:50:39 | prpplague | Russ|werk: did you get a watch to your /proc/sys/gf ? |
| 00:51:01 | Russ|werk | tomorrow |
| 01:29:09 | BZFlag | buildroot is just broken. |
| 01:29:20 | BZFlag | rm -r build/stage ; make yields: |
| 01:29:35 | BZFlag | ln -s /home/timr/work/shannon/buildroot-tux/build/stage/lib/ld-uClibc-0.9.12.so /lib/ld-uClibc.so.0 |
| 01:29:41 | BZFlag | blames andersee |
| 01:32:56 | jacques | heh |
| 01:36:19 | prpplague | doh |
| 01:36:51 | prpplague | BZFlag: hmm, yep, you've moved to managment, lol, already started handing out the blame! |
| 01:47:15 | Sammy | hi all |
| 01:47:19 | jacques | well I too blame andersee :-) |
| 01:47:28 | jacques | and I'm not management |
| 01:52:59 | prpplague | jacques: i'm harassing BZFlag |
| 01:53:21 | prpplague | jacques: what did you guys change? |
| 02:04:24 | jacques | andersee changed a bunch of stuff, including integrating toolchain build into buildroot |
| 02:14:30 | prpplague | ahh |
| 02:16:04 | prpplague | oops |
| 03:08:23 | | jacques_gone was last seen on #tuxscreen 20 days, 5 hours, 12 minutes and 18 seconds ago, saying: ibot: seen andersee [Wed May 15 22:56:05 2002] |
| 03:08:23 | TomW | ibot, seen jacques_gone |
| 03:08:37 | | jacques was last seen on #tuxscreen 1 hours, 4 minutes and 13 seconds ago, saying: andersee changed a bunch of stuff, including integrating toolchain build into buildroot [Wed Jun 5 03:04:24 2002] |
| 03:08:37 | TomW | ibot, seen jacques |
| 07:14:16 | andersee | BZFlag: you around? |
| 07:15:48 | BZFlag | yeah, but I should be sleeping. |
| 07:16:21 | andersee | hehe |
| 07:16:37 | andersee | I seem to have gotten a working 2.4.18 kernel on the Qube.. |
| 07:17:29 | BZFlag | woohoo! |
| 07:17:36 | BZFlag | x86 compile or native? |
| 07:18:24 | andersee | cross compiled |
| 07:20:48 | BZFlag | email directions to get there? |
| 07:21:01 | BZFlag | I'd love to get over to debian on rikers.org |
| 07:30:51 | Russ | segway tests in chandler..hmmm |
| 08:31:54 | Russ | important: if someone sees Thomas, tell him its room C35 |
| 08:36:22 | dc_ | ... |
| 12:29:49 | Suran | hi |
| 12:30:13 | sjhill | looks for ops |
| 12:34:30 | Suran | Any idea if it is safe to make the 2 cables in the display that power the backlight longer? |
| 13:34:22 | lyakh_working | A naive (faq-) question - after installing linux on tuxscreen, does it still work as a normal phone (at least)?:-) |
| 13:42:28 | TomW | lyakh_working: yes. |
| 14:07:34 | CosmicPenguin | is back (gone 14:49:24) |
| 14:08:35 | TomW | this sucks |
| 14:09:56 | lyakh_working | Thanks, what sucks? |
| 14:10:45 | lyakh_working | got my 110V adaptor - will polug it in tonight, hehe:-) |
| 14:11:18 | TomW | getting the fscking cross-gcc stuff working. The stupid linker insists on using only default libs when it has been told not to. |
| 14:12:02 | TomW | beats head against wall some more... |
| 14:14:49 | TomW | I got to rethink this whole thing... |
| 14:16:32 | prpplague | morning all |
| 14:16:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you alive yet? |
| 14:21:42 | TomW | beats on horse to make sure it is dead. |
| 14:23:00 | prpplague | TomW: which horse is that? |
| 14:23:21 | TomW | cross-gcc development for debian. |
| 14:24:29 | TomW | damed linker insists on looking into the default libs of the cross-dev stuff first before it goes to the lib search path that I told it to do. It keeps ignoring -nodefaultlibs |
| 14:24:46 | prpplague | TomW: doh |
| 14:25:30 | prpplague | TomW: argh, why put a config flag if you going to ignore it? lol |
| 14:25:41 | TomW | exactly. |
| 14:26:19 | prpplague | manpage - the -nodefaultlibs flag is here just confuse people, it really doesn't do anything |
| 14:26:30 | TomW | "we'll observe this option if it appears that the user is knowledgable about what they are doing, but if they fsck up, let's try to help them out..." |
| 14:26:54 | TomW | !!! what !!! ?? |
| 14:27:11 | TomW | heh |
| 14:27:37 | prpplague | TomW: sounds like that might have been write by Bill Clintons speak writer |
| 14:27:54 | TomW | prpplague: stop that! I am teetering on the edge of my sanity as it is (on my good days). |
| 14:28:07 | prpplague | lol |
| 14:29:24 | TomW | well... I can compile this stuff on the Tux, it takes about 2 hours to compile X on it though. |
| 14:30:12 | TomW | I feel that I am getting so freakin' close to getting this thing working: cross-dev. |
| 14:30:30 | TomW | ... just one more option bit ... |
| 14:31:18 | TomW | it becomes a personal challenge after a while: "gee, I thought I knew this stuff" type of deal. |
| 14:37:26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I'm here, I'm here |
| 14:39:04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you get a chance to look at that sample app? |
| 14:39:13 | CosmicPenguin | Oops.... not yet |
| 14:39:28 | CosmicPenguin | Lemme grab a cup of cofee first, and then we'll hit it |
| 14:43:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nothing major, i just wanted to see what you though of the text entry function |
| 14:43:26 | CosmicPenguin | These guys on the #ps2linux room are hopeless.... |
| 14:43:57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i don't want to take up any of your work time |
| 14:46:38 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: that is never a problem..... like any good engineer, I always multiply my work estimates by 2.... :) |
| 14:47:04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I really like that. Especially the keyboard, thats a good little hack |
| 14:47:17 | CosmicPenguin | Except that my mouse disappears when I go over the app |
| 14:48:23 | CosmicPenguin | Oops - segfaulted it... :) |
| 14:49:05 | CosmicPenguin | Don't press keys all willy nilly - it gets a bit pissed |
| 14:49:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh, i think i had the cursor turned of for use on pda |
| 14:50:12 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hehehe..... |
| 14:50:27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that one was a firt draft, i've totaly re-writen |
| 14:50:37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: still, I like the looks |
| 14:50:50 | CosmicPenguin | is trying to figure out a cool hack for his PS2 |
| 14:51:16 | CosmicPenguin | I don't think it would be worth it to put microwindows on the PS2 - especially since I don't think it has a framebuffer driver yet |
| 14:52:02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: how about making a really cool POS unit, lol |
| 14:53:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've got plans to package the keyboard as a widget later and send it up to fltk.org |
| 14:55:30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: do they have a USB barcode reader? |
| 14:55:48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya, we use the WelchAllyn 3800 usb |
| 14:56:13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i even create a scannable program sheet pdf for use with linux |
| 14:56:58 | CosmicPenguin | Wouldn't the PS2 be a pretty expensive POS station - I mean, its almost $400 just for the game console + Linux |
| 14:58:56 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you priced an ibm pos lately? |
| 14:59:21 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdev.php?id=677 |
| 14:59:28 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: well, yeah, but you can buy one of those small footprint x86 boxes running at 700 or 800 mhz for about 300 bucks |
| 15:00:51 | CosmicPenguin | X on the PS2 is only running at 574 x 404 |
| 15:01:09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: true |
| 15:02:14 | CosmicPenguin | In fact, that reminds me |
| 15:05:54 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: time to make the donuts? |
| 15:10:19 | CosmicPenguin | I'm going to get one of these here soon: http://www.tech-report.com/reviews/2002q2/shuttle-ss50/index.x?pg=1 |
| 15:11:07 | CosmicPenguin | As long as I can convince my new fiance that is a worthy expenditure |
| 15:12:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nice |
| 15:12:45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the box that is, not that you have to get a "PO" for it |
| 15:13:14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: It has built in surround sound - I want to turn it into a media server |
| 15:15:20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool, i use a neoware eon2000 as my mp3/media server, it looks nice along with the rest of my rack system |
| 15:15:39 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: cool.... :) |
| 15:16:38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you checkout linuette from mizi? |
| 15:17:21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I also need to toss one of these on: http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/electronics/5756.shtml |
| 15:17:31 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: never heard of it... URL? |
| 15:18:25 | prpplague | http://www.mizi.com/en |
| 15:19:20 | CosmicPenguin | Oh, yeah - I've heard of that.... |
| 15:20:22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got an email this mornign from them pushing the pda sdk |
| 15:20:52 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its just Qtopia, right? |
| 15:21:34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya basically, as i understand it |
| 15:24:30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: IMHO, century was major wrong not to further develop pixil |
| 15:25:14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I know, I know.... |
| 15:29:24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: this is new, i've started get spam - "dear dave, increase your breast size......" |
| 15:40:31 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: have you done any qtopia stuff? |
| 15:49:51 | Russ--- | TomW: did you build your own cross compiler |
| 15:52:20 | | Morn was last seen on #tuxscreen 4 days, 8 hours, 31 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: is away: while ( tired ) { sleep (5); } [Sat Jun 1 08:20:39 2002] |
| 15:52:20 | prpplague | ibot: seen Morn |
| 15:59:46 | TomW | Russ: yeah, workin on it... |
| 16:00:05 | TomW | Russ: I am so close I can taste it... |
| 16:00:26 | Russ | TomW: screw that |
| 16:00:36 | TomW | prpplague: did you see the ibot report on Morn? |
| 16:00:36 | Russ | TomW: just download a precompiled toolchain |
| 16:01:19 | TomW | Russ: not if I want to link against debian libs. I have a working toolchain, it is the debian libs that are the prob. |
| 16:01:55 | TomW | prpplague: I think her " while ( tired ) { sleep (5); }" means 'sleep (5 days)', heh. |
| 16:03:01 | TomW | Russ, I am sorting out the linker options & libs, then I can cross-build for the debian libs (glibc not uClibc) + Tux 2.4 kernel on the workstation. |
| 16:04:44 | Morn | is back (gone 104:43:42) |
| 16:04:50 | Morn | hi |
| 16:05:35 | TomW | Morn: did you sleep for 5 days? |
| 16:05:53 | Russ | you mean you have a debain arm install |
| 16:06:08 | Morn | I wish |
| 16:07:04 | TomW | Russ: yes. I am running debian-arm on the hard drive and the Tux 2.4 kernel. Makes a mess of things when compiling utils that need to make intimate syscalls into the kernel: e.g. reiserfs tools. |
| 16:07:25 | TomW | Tux |
| 16:07:53 | TomW | Morn: ibot said " Morn was last seen on #tuxscreen 4 days, 8 hours, 31 minutes and 41 seconds ago, saying: is away: while ( tired ) { sleep (5); }" |
| 16:08:12 | Russ | TomW: just get the emdebian toolchain |
| 16:08:22 | TomW | Morn: I just figured that you meant you were going to crash for 5 days. heh. |
| 16:08:36 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no.... :) |
| 16:09:17 | TomW | Russ: I'll look into it. I am using the arm.uk.linux.org toolchain right now. |
| 16:10:53 | TomW | Russ: that emdebian toolchain doesn't look like a cross, is it a cross? |
| 16:11:07 | TomW | Russ: doh! sorry. |
| 16:11:18 | TomW | Russ: I see it now. |
| 16:11:22 | Russ | http://www.emdebian.org/crossdev.html |
| 16:11:29 | TomW | yup |
| 16:12:34 | Russ | libc6-dev-arm-2.1.3-8e4 |
| 16:12:36 | TomW | Russ: thanks. I am so close now with the arm.uk.linux.org stuff I'll need to clean up the linking, then I must test it. I have several days at this and don't want to switch directions just yet. |
| 16:12:48 | Russ | is that new enough? |
| 16:13:57 | TomW | Russ: already using 2.1.3 |
| 16:15:58 | TomW | Morn: while (tired) { if (collapse) sleep(8) else keep_working(); } |
| 16:16:09 | TomW | Morn: heh |
| 16:19:16 | prpplague | Morn: you've done some qtopia stuff right? |
| 16:22:12 | TomW | YES!!! |
| 16:22:24 | TomW | FINALLY!!! |
| 16:22:32 | TomW | does wardance |
| 16:23:18 | TomW | Finally can build a "hello world" that runs on debian-arm |
| 16:24:14 | souslik | Hi. Anybody here? |
| 16:24:22 | TomW | no |
| 16:24:44 | | wish i knew, tomw |
| 16:24:44 | TomW | ibot you here? |
| 16:24:57 | souslik | OK. I'm trying to get networking working on my tuxscreen. I installed a Xircom card |
| 16:25:09 | souslik | what next? |
| 16:25:18 | TomW | what does ifconfig say |
| 16:25:30 | souslik | only the "lo" interface |
| 16:25:41 | souslik | I use image and kernel from v0.4 |
| 16:25:47 | TomW | did you setup the pcmcia network.opts file yet? |
| 16:26:14 | souslik | no. I go to have a look a this file |
| 16:27:18 | TomW | look at /buildroot-tux/build/pcmcia-cs-3.1.33/etc/network.opts, it is defaulted to DHCP. |
| 16:27:46 | TomW | souslik: you can edit it on the Tux. it is in /etc/pcmcia/ |
| 16:28:35 | souslik | found it. |
| 16:29:19 | souslik | I would like to test if TinyX is working with the network. |
| 16:29:45 | TomW | it does. |
| 16:30:11 | souslik | Great! |
| 16:30:19 | TomW | souslik: jacques was using it as a remote X terminal with his workstation. |
| 16:30:46 | souslik | However Xircom driver does not seem to be in the images available in /tinyx |
| 16:31:00 | souslik | I think I will have to build my own image and kernel. Is it hard? |
| 16:31:04 | TomW | souslik: I don't know if it was tested the other direction though (workstation as remote X terminal with Tux as X server). |
| 16:31:27 | souslik | what about Xmms displayed on the tuxscreen? |
| 16:31:28 | TomW | souslik: don't use the current buildroot-tux, it is currently broken. |
| 16:32:00 | souslik | ok. what can I do to have Tinyx and Xircom then? |
| 16:32:18 | TomW | souslik: don't know about Xmms, I am currently working with debian-arm (Familiar) at the moment to get the touchscreen working in xfree86. |
| 16:33:36 | souslik | Great! |
| 16:33:39 | TomW | souslik: I cannot help you out with X stuff, been working at other ends lately. |
| 16:33:55 | TomW | souslik: Dillo works under debian. |
| 16:34:40 | TomW | souslik: probably would work under tinyx but don't know of anyone that has compiled for uClibc yet. |
| 16:36:36 | souslik | So back to the first step: getting the network |
| 16:38:10 | souslik | How do you delete a character with Tuxscreen's vi ?? |
| 16:38:25 | souslik | DEL then right arrow doesn't work! |
| 16:40:07 | TomW | souslik: uh oh, been working with linux long? |
| 16:40:21 | TomW | souslik: or just an emacs person? |
| 16:40:53 | souslik | I don't use VI often |
| 16:41:09 | souslik | just know the basics |
| 16:42:37 | TomW | souslik: x, dd, i, a, D, y, and p are working. |
| 16:43:23 | TomW | souslik: maybe: P, yj, dj also |
| 16:56:47 | Russ | really need to get ae on there instead |
| 16:56:57 | Russ | or maybe nano |
| 16:57:42 | cd | # ifconfig eth0 10.3.8.5 netmask 255.255.0.0 SIOCSIFADDR: No such device SIOCSIFNETMASK: No such device |
| 16:57:48 | cd | what's wrong? |
| 17:05:46 | souslik_ | Ooops. I just realized my PCMCIA network card is a Cardbus...so it will never work! |
| 17:06:00 | souslik_ | Does networking (PPP) work over the serial interface? |
| 17:07:06 | TomW | souslik: it might, you have to rebuild the kernel after turning off the option to use the serial port as console, then remove the console designation from /etc/inittab |
| 17:07:43 | TomW | souslik: I use an older DLINK card. DE660, IIRC. |
| 17:08:00 | souslik_ | I will try to find one...tomorrow. |
| 17:08:28 | souslik_ | Is it 3.3V? |
| 17:11:35 | CosmicPenguin | is there a integer only version of xmms? |
| 17:11:39 | CosmicPenguin | I didn't think they had one yet |
| 17:24:10 | Russ|werk | CosmicPenguin: maybe if you can get a madplay pluging working for it |
| 17:43:32 | sjhill | hey andersee |
| 17:46:33 | andersee | morning |
| 17:46:47 | andersee | Or rather... it will be morning for a few more minutes. |
| 17:47:24 | andersee | BTW, could you summarize your CVS commite yesterday? I'd been setting up some spam filtering and so for much of the day cvs commits went to /dev/null |
| 17:47:48 | andersee | Or rather.. cvs commit emails... |
| 17:50:06 | sjhill | andersee: i don't get cvs commit emails |
| 17:52:12 | andersee | There is a uclibc-cvs mailing list for those. But cvs commit emails yesterday were trashed before getting to the list |
| 17:52:36 | sjhill | andersee: all the stuff i committed was in the mips directories and a few changes in 'ldso/utils/Makefile' to prevent some targets if we're cross compiling |
| 17:52:43 | sjhill | oh, let me subscribe to that list :) |
| 17:52:47 | andersee | k |
| 17:53:17 | andersee | http://codepoet.org/mailman/listinfo/ |
| 17:54:58 | mallum | andersee: how is the locale stuff going with uclibc ? |
| 17:57:00 | andersee | Pretty well. Nearly full locale support is already in CVS. Adds ~60k to the library. |
| 17:57:34 | andersee | Or rather, ~60k for _all_ locales. Configure out most of then and it gets smaller... |
| 17:57:48 | Russ|werk | andersee: I know I didn't send you an iptables.mk, but did you track down the loader problem? |
| 17:59:08 | mallum | andersee: nice :) |
| 18:01:59 | andersee | Russ|werk: I was intending to make one myself, but havn't done it yet. |
| 18:04:17 | Russ|werk | ok, well If I haven't made one yet, don't put it at too much priority, I know there is other work you are getting money for |
| 18:05:31 | andersee | Russ: I've still not seen the alledged thread wierdness, and I was doing a bunch of wierd thread stuff yesterday... |
| 18:05:39 | sjhill | andersee: do you have any applications that use the 'dlopen' syscall? |
| 18:09:00 | andersee | sjhill: just the silly test I wrote in uClibc/test/ldso |
| 18:09:24 | sjhill | looks |
| 18:09:44 | sjhill | andersee: this next set of changes will be....interesting |
| 18:10:00 | sjhill | i'm working on directfb and uclibc together |
| 18:10:28 | fontenot | mmmm, directfb |
| 18:10:44 | sjhill | fontenot: it's nasty |
| 18:10:51 | andersee | sjhill: interesting? |
| 18:11:32 | sjhill | andersee: ummm, might break 'dlopen'. it appears to be working, but i can only test so muc |
| 18:11:37 | sjhill | h |
| 18:22:15 | andersee | Hmm. Just tried my little test app -- seems _dl_load_elf_shared_library is segfaulting... |
| 18:22:25 | andersee | thinks sjhill broke it |
| 18:22:38 | andersee | Compiling with debug to poke at it... |
| 18:23:10 | andersee | This is probably the thing Russ is seeing with iptables, which makes heavy use of dlopen |
| 18:23:17 | sjhill | andersee: yup, i broke it a while back, it's just no one noticed :) |
| 18:23:32 | sjhill | the fix will be there in about 15 minutes |
| 18:23:47 | sjhill | Russ|werk: still around? |
| 18:23:58 | andersee | k. Then I won't bother debugging it if you're on it. |
| 18:24:07 | sjhill | andersee, yup i got it |
| 18:25:28 | prpplague | anyone here got one of the new dw4020 satelite modems? |
| 18:32:11 | andersee | rebooting to shuffle hard drives. brb... |
| 18:37:10 | sjhill | Russ: you around? |
| 18:42:53 | Russ|werk | sjhill: ya |
| 18:43:13 | Russ|werk | cvs update -d "5 weeks ago" |
| 18:43:23 | Russ|werk | should be sufficient |
| 18:45:12 | Russ|werk | lunch at pei wei |
| 18:45:20 | sjhill | Russ|werk: you might want to update now |
| 18:49:27 | sjhill | andersee: you're kind of unstable today :) |
| 18:50:44 | andersee | I'm been shuffling hard drives a lot... |
| 18:51:23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you have all the good toys lately... :) |
| 18:52:03 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: welcome back! |
| 18:52:09 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: nice trip? |
| 18:52:12 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: great trip |
| 18:52:31 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: gonna be getting hitched soon? ;) |
| 18:53:52 | CosmicPenguin | yeah.... next may |
| 18:53:54 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 18:54:42 | andersee | :) |
| 18:59:00 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: weird, me too |
| 18:59:13 | CosmicPenguin | sjhill: congrats... :) |
| 18:59:18 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: you too :) |
| 19:06:53 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: which toys are you refering too? |
| 19:09:32 | CosmicPenguin | the satellite modems |
| 19:14:25 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 19:14:45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: from the specs it looks like it is arm based |
| 19:22:19 | jacques_gone | toys? |
| 19:24:20 | lyakh_home | It works!:-) |
| 19:25:46 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: url? |
| 19:33:49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0204/22.satellite.php |
| 19:34:52 | CosmicPenguin | Ohhh... DirecWay |
| 19:35:04 | CosmicPenguin | Bit of a ripoff, if you ask me |
| 19:35:28 | ctr | hey cp |
| 19:35:32 | CosmicPenguin | hey ct |
| 19:35:33 | CosmicPenguin | are |
| 19:35:41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya, but a lot of places we do biz at have not dsl/cable connectivity |
| 19:35:55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I can definately see it's usefulness out in the boonies |
| 19:36:47 | ctr | wow |
| 19:36:47 | ctr | so much to do |
| 19:36:47 | ctr | so little timne to do it all in |
| 19:37:00 | prpplague | ctr: amen |
| 19:37:44 | prpplague | ctr: however it substitute |
| 19:38:09 | prpplague | so many beers, so little time to drink it all in |
| 19:38:15 | ctr | :) |
| 19:52:26 | jacques | downloading the third redhat 7.3 iso |
| 19:52:38 | jacques | it just gets bigger and bigger |
| 19:55:22 | sjhill | jacques: are they still throttling bandwidth? |
| 19:57:24 | jacques | sjhill: I was only getting 5kB/s from redhat, so I downloaded from a mirror |
| 19:57:52 | Russ|werk | sjhill: did you fix it? |
| 19:58:04 | andersee | Sigh. Time to shuffle hard drives again. |
| 19:58:14 | sjhill | Russ|werk: yes, get latest cvs |
| 20:00:08 | andersee | Russ|werk: yup. dlopen was failing and I (finally) reproduced that. And now its fixed... |
| 20:04:15 | prpplague | jacques: someone turned me on to ftp.uwinnipeg.ca for redhat iso's |
| 20:04:42 | Russ|werk | when will this chirstine hall lady stop emailing me |
| 20:04:51 | file | waddup? |
| 20:04:56 | sjhill | Russ|werk: is she hot? |
| 20:05:00 | sjhill | giggles |
| 20:05:49 | prpplague | sjhill: you can try the ftp.uwinnipeg.ca, i was getting around 65kB/s |
| 20:05:54 | file | giggles |
| 20:05:58 | sjhill | prpplague: awesome, thx |
| 20:07:06 | file | sjhill: still got the Ninos? |
| 20:08:58 | Russ|werk | sjhill: its spam |
| 20:09:18 | Russ|werk | "I visited http://russ.dhs.org, and noticed that you're not listed on some search engines!" |
| 20:10:08 | prpplague | Russ|werk: this is new, i've started get spam - "dear dave, increase your breast size......" |
| 20:10:21 | file | hahahaha |
| 20:12:03 | file | prpplague : you wouldn't have any PDA's to sell? |
| 20:12:31 | file | by any chance... |
| 20:15:38 | prpplague | file: too late, i just got rid of a vr3, a yopy, and a inhand elf board |
| 20:15:54 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: wow..... that must have been the other vr3 that they sold |
| 20:16:42 | sjhill | file: yes |
| 20:17:35 | Russ|werk | prpplague: I really want to setup a gtk2fb devel enviroment for the camion once I get the kernel done |
| 20:20:24 | sjhill | sweet, directfb working with uclibc on mips |
| 20:22:08 | Russ|werk | too much of the embedded linux world is tied into qt |
| 20:23:10 | Aelhaz | wouldn't be so bad if it worked properly |
| 20:25:09 | Russ|werk | you mean qt? |
| 20:26:56 | prpplague | Aelhaz: you have qt experience? |
| 20:27:37 | prpplague | Aelhaz: i just got a programming request for an app to run on the zaurus and mainly a fltk guy |
| 20:28:10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: vr3 ya there weren't too many vr3's sold |
| 20:28:17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i got this one as a promo |
| 20:29:12 | prpplague | Russ|werk: so the camion is performing pretty well for ya? |
| 20:29:33 | prpplague | Russ|werk: you want the other unit after i finish with the article? |
| 20:30:07 | Russ|werk | I have someone who would want it with the software that comes on it |
| 20:30:54 | prpplague | Russ|werk: let me guess? your gf? |
| 20:31:01 | Russ|werk | ya |
| 20:31:20 | Russ|werk | If you know someone who is interesting in starting gtk2fb with me |
| 20:31:44 | prpplague | Russ|werk: ok, i'll keep it in mind |
| 20:31:53 | prpplague | is gtk hanicapped |
| 20:32:03 | Russ|werk | it would be very cool to drop the C++ dependancy, and get some true internatialization and accessability in there |
| 20:32:05 | prpplague | handicapped even |
| 20:32:20 | Russ|werk | gtk is a move towards what I would want oo to be |
| 20:49:24 | CosmicPenguin | wb andersee |
| 21:32:32 | jacques | prpplague: limestone.uoregon.edu is the mirror I used - I think I got around 100kB/s |
| 21:32:51 | jacques | hi andersee, how's life? |
| 21:32:56 | prpplague | jacques: nice, i'll have to mark that one down |
| 21:34:51 | jacques | prpplague: yah I went through all the .edu mirrors and that was the best for me |
| 21:59:47 | Russ|werk | jacques: just get debain instead |
| 22:00:02 | Russ|werk | the mirrors are much faster and you don't need to download an iso, just the packages you need |
| 22:00:15 | jacques | Russ|werk: heh, sometimes one does not have a choice - we use redhat at work |
| 22:00:28 | Russ|werk | so? |
| 22:01:14 | jacques | Russ|werk: ?? I am doing this for work |
| 22:01:42 | Russ|werk | ya? so? would they really know if you installed debian |
| 22:02:34 | jacques | Russ|werk: well considering I am going to be installing it on our 100+ servers, I think they would know, esp. since I am not the only admin |
| 22:10:28 | jacques | cool I just talked to jamey on #handhelds.org |
| 22:10:51 | jacques | who here was having the display problem when using the pcmcia bus? |
| 22:18:02 | jacques | :-\ |
| 22:18:36 | jacques | well I got the scoop from jamey, I will pass it on to anyone who's interested |
| 22:21:20 | DarkDream | jacques: You speak French ? ;) |
| 22:24:39 | jacques | DarkDream: alas, no. my father speaks cajun french though |
| 22:41:01 | Russ|werk | jacques: io starvation? |
| 22:45:19 | jacques | Russ|werk: <jamey> jacques: when pcmcia bus is consuming too many cycles, blocking out dma to display |
| 22:45:19 | jacques | <jacques> jamey: so that got fixed? is it in the "mainstream" ARM kernel? |
| 22:45:40 | Russ|werk | ya, the question is, is it the right fix |
| 22:45:48 | jacques | <jamey> jacques: not in the mainstream kernel yet, only handhelds.org. actually, the low-level interface is in 2.5.x but not 2.4.x -- I backported a patch from arm.linux.org.uk |
| 22:46:01 | jacques | <jacques> jamey: so the fix is in 2.5 mainstream ARM ? |
| 22:46:01 | jacques | <jacques> but not 2.4 mainstream arm? |
| 22:46:01 | jacques | <jamey> yes |
| 22:46:05 | Russ|werk | I'll see what I can do to get something like that in the tux patches |
| 22:46:22 | jacques | <jacques> jamey: ok thanks I will let them know - is there some way we can reference the fix - bug ID or something? |
| 22:46:31 | jacques | <jamey> jacques: patch 1008/1 |
| 22:47:10 | jacques | Russ|werk: cool - I know some ppl will be rather happy to see that |
| 23:02:14 | andersee | BZFlag: the Qube is working nicely now |
| 23:03:16 | andersee | BZFlag: running 2.4.18, ext3 rootfs, latest debian testing. :) |
| 23:32:33 | BZFlag | andersee: mail me instructions so I can convert rikers.org! ;-) |